Webinar: Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel on ‘Why I Hope to Die at 75’
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2014
- In a provocative recent essay for The Atlantic, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, an architect of the Affordable Care Act and a leading national expert on health policy, offered a deeply personal explanation for “Why I Hope to Die at 75.” The article ignited a national conversation about whether Americans surrender quality of life in our quest to live longer.
In this one-hour webinar, Dr. Emanuel shares personal and policy insights that promise to help you rethink how to approach journalism on aging and medical interventions at the end of life. In a presentation and Q&A period, he will presents research on old age and increasing disability, and discusses hard truths often overlooked in our rush to extend life at any cost. This webinar is sure to inspire journalists to rethink their own coverage of these issues and generate fresh ideas for reporting.
I listened to the entire lecture.
This title came up in my recommendations. I have never heard of Dr. Ezekiel but if I die at 75, I would have had a good run, is something I've been saying for a few years.
I think our society's whole attitude of life, death, dying and age is very messed-up.
I notice many seniors in my life and in the public, in their 80s & 90s are alive but in pain and acting-out. Due to medical advancements, people are living longer but they have little quality of life.
I see a medical system that sees even natural death as something to fight at all costs and merely keeping alive some kind of triumph.
I see people's bodies barely out-living their minds and then we have the mobility technology to send them out in public and endanger themselves and others.
"Old" is seen as an insult, and comparisons to youth as some kind of compliment when they are merely neutral adjectives.
I witnessed medical professionals speak to my dying 90 year old mother (whose life was medically prolonged, in my opinion) in infantilizing tones and compliment her on how young she looked and that she can live forever....which was so much bullshit, my brother stepped-in and rebuked the professional, letting him know that my mom was okay with dying, and we we're okay with her dying.
While I am also uncomfortable with assisted death options as is here in Canada, I see it as perverse solution because we have interfered artificially and medically in prolonging life at all cost above every question of what is natural and what is quality, When the question should be, when face with a new advancement to prolong life, just because we can, does it mean we should?
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I had never heard about this doctor, cause most of doctors say the oposite, but I think in some way he may be right. That's a big matter to be discussed by Philosofy , Psychology, Religion. Certainly there would be different views...🤷♀️
When I saw this article I felt like FINALLY-someone sees this subject as I do! I'm also lucky to have a doctor who agrees and supports me. And now there's you.
me too!!! I was grateful to see it!
i really wish the slides tracked with the audio. The non-sync made it impossible to watch while listening.
Life's not about happiness.
Or about meaningfulness.
Or about longevity.
It’s about contentment.
As long as one is content with life, year-counting is almost irrelevant.
This has sense. I don't know why do people want to be dying for years in agony and pain instead just ending themselves on time and keep their dignity.
Until you Realise this guy heads Obamacare and is Bidens Health Minister
The fear of death thats why cos we don't know what happens when we die. However I'd rather die then spend years of agonising poor health. You fight against nature it fights back and always wins
Many people in these comments did not actually listen to this man’s words
People of this man’s education, affluence and caliber that live in nice parts of California, Colorado, and the northeast are still physically active and a great quality of life in their 80’s and 90’s, yet in most rural and poorer
parts of flyover states, most people are decrepit by their 60’s and just surviving and miserable even if they make it to their 90’s. My first wife’s grandmother lived to be 93, but she’d been in poor health since her 50’s from diabetes, arthritis, and could barely walk even in her 70’s. But she never smoked or drank. Her two sons were chain-smokers and alcoholics and died in their 60’s and her daughter, my mother in law, was diagnosed with brain cancer at 61, but made it to 75 and lived the last 10 years in hospice care. I’d rather just be euthanized.
its called freedom of speech this doctor has every right to think this way if he wants.
That is untrue. If he was 'right wing', he would be fired, ostracized, shamed and ridiculed.
He can say he thinks old farts should die at 75. But, if some white nationalist said it, you'd be screaming and crying.
Fact.
Yes, BUT JUST DON"T FORCE HIS WAY OF THINKING ON OTHERS!!! WE ALSO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO THINK HOW LONG WE WANT TO LIVE!!!
@@mjblue84 he isn't forcing anything on anybody. He is stating his opiniob and evidence to support it.
Yes, but he has no right to say I have no right to live
@@GeraldHarris-cf2zh
And he will be appointed by the Marxist left who already
Voted for abortion of babies at months gestation. This is the party of death.
This is communism.
If they succeed in this coup we will no longer have a constitution
I’m 77 and just moved from the States to Paris for a year. Thinking of moving here longer. This article is insane.
Perhaps you are the wonderful exception
You cannot generalize. I just turned 70 and moved to Portugal two years ago. I am multilingual and write and read in more than one language. I have no chronic illness and highly creative. The issue is to live fully and I have no desire to look younger or live longer. I don’t need reading glasses, have photographic memory and hope to age with grace and healthy.
It’s a pity that many people commenting do not understand the differentiated view of this oncologist and bioethicist. Unfortunately this is often the case with complex scientific discussions.
His argument is all about deciding for yourself what a good and meaningful life and death would be and how YOU want to spend your life at YOUR best and at the best for society! I wouldn’t want to live with severe impairments and disabilities in old age in a nursing home, I‘d prefer to pay as much as needed for assisted terminal care when I decide it’s time to go. It is my and it’s my life, so its my choice. I don’t want to depend on strangers when I’m the most vulnerable without hope for betterment.
I can't understand why he wants to be gone at 75 if he is well and still fit as well as very mobile.Also still very active mentally and strong.Im 70 and v v active.Dont feel age 70 at all.To think i want to be gone in 5 yrs.If I get cancer or some other illness that affects my quality of life.Then I too want to be gone at 75 or actually long before even.We live in a time where age is not a major reason to start thinking of passing..But of living life to the full and enjoying
@@lyndadelport8322 if one actually listens to the talk from the very beginning, he says he did not give this sensational title to the talk, that was given to him by The Atlantic for his article. He said many people don’t get beyond the title before reacting. He’s talking about quality of life over quantity.
I watch my mom at 91... I get this--I totally agree with Dr. Ezekiel. Note, I don't have any children so that probably is a large factor to consider.
I absolutely agree, focus on the young people, not so much on the prolonging life of a 90 years old!
I have a girlfriend who spent the last three-and-a-half to four months flat on her back being kept alive on a ventilator and then the ventilator through the trach. She was 69 it was the most miserable death I've ever seen. She was basically on life support the entire time and they refused hospice. I have been with with multiple people who were dying and extending her life was the most miserable thing I've ever seen worse than my friend who had locked-in syndrome and was totally paralyzed Now another friend of mine who is 74 just had a stroke in both sides of his brain and the anti-stroke medicine they gave him he is now L side paralyzed and he can't talk.
Yes vents kill people its rare to get off them alive
Your body, your choice.
My mother in
Law is 96. Her older sister is 101 her other two sisters are also in their 90’s
I think his parents are elderly too. It’s about quality of life not quantity. If he was ill he wouldn’t try to prolong it.
His own father died at 92.
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After poor quality of life for 14 years...
This is wisdom. Thank you.
Perfect. Thank you so much for bringing this into the world.
You are sick, and so is he
@@LDuke-pc7kqand you're immoral. You fight against nature it fights back. We were not made to live long. Growing old just creates problems and ill health
That’s when I want to die. Shocked the hell out of my doctor.
I’m with you Dr Emanuel I’m 78, my husband 83 and it’s not fun
75 is way to young. I hope to die before I decend into dementia which in my family is somewhere between 85 and 90. My father could still beat me at golf when he was 85 and I am not a bad golfer.
Man with a plan .....
I think when it's time to go, it will happen whether I one is ill or healthy.
The Creator already has a registered expiry date of most of His creations. Maybe even those accidents are expirations being kept upto-date!
Excellent - thank you
He better keep his promise
Quite a bit of doublespeak here
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I am against long living. I hate to see old people holding for dear life no matter at what costs. This is insane and not this doctor's view! Look rather at how expensive is to prolong lives of people who are barely walking, thinking, talking.. no quality.. i don't want it for myself. I already hate my age of 56.
This man was just appointed to Joe Biden's coronavirus task force. His views are chilling.
YES, his views are chilling and unfortunately, many people have no clue!
He actually makes sense. I have personally been saying i don't want to live beyond 70. If yo u have family do you really want to put your family thru the burden of you getting old and sick esp if you have some chronic diaease or illness. Im 56 and most of my friends are dead or dying....
@@GeraldHarris-cf2zh You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. I will say my mother lived to be 90 her parents 98 and 87. At no time in their lives were they a burden to their children, grandchildren or great-grandchildren, etc. The knowledge and love they provided had a profound impact on the lives of their family and friends.
Put him out if his misery.. scary demokkkrat
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Keeping it real, average lifespan in the U.S. today is 78. That means half the population dies before that age. My uncle died at 78 and people thought “he was gone too soon”, yet a cousin of my mom’s died at 81, just 3 more years and nobody complained about it as an early death. Bottom line, 75 is not that early, but not too long, either.
No, that's not what "average" means. You are thinking of "median."
And 75 can class as a complete life. Youre just getting greedy if you wanna live longer then 75 years
@@sexydudeuk2172 I don’t know, my mom is 79 and still has the social energy of a teenager and a constant worrywart, she’s had high blood pressure since her 30s controlled by medication. And no, I don’t want her to go yet. I’m 55 myself, and go to the gym 4-5 times a week for 30-45 minutes exercise, but for a good quality of life, not so I’ll live to 100.
I think 85 is perfect, personally. There was a WW2 vet named Richard Overton that lived to be 112. He smoked 8-10 cigars a day and had since he was a young man, drank 4-5 cups of coffee in morning laced with whiskey, and indulged himself with butter pecan ice cream every night.
@@jondstewartand the scientist david goodall decided to end his life at 104 regretting living that long.
My grandmother was in ill health the last 3 years of her life with dementia and heart problems
This doctor is ableist and ageist. He is actively promoting unhealthy medical decisions by sharing his own depressive view of the world. Very sad case.
You obviously did not read the original article. or listen to this full video
He is not promoting anything, just expressing his personal views. Hear what he says, not what you think he said
He doesn’t hope to die at 75.🤦♀️😂 if he got cancer for example he wouldn’t try to prolong it with chemo …
Most people don’t care to actually listen to him… About his argument with chemotherapy: he is an onkologist, so he knows what he is saying. And what he says is not as simple as just that about the age of 75 and/or chemotherapy…
More about a book then anything else
"Age based enforced euthanasia for thee, not for me." - Technocrats
You do not get to decide when you can die! Even suicide is not easy!
Dr. Ezekiel, If you stop taking your medicine, you most likely will end up with a stroke, or worse, which will place you in a nursing home. You most likely will not die from lack of medications, but rather a stroke, or heart attack will may make you an invalid. (Wheel chair bound.)
I read his article, and his argument is idiotic for this and many other reasons. Of course it could easily end up being *more* expensive to take care of him if he decides to take these measures at 75. Yes, if by some miracle all of society adopted his prescription, then healthcare costs would be cut down, but probably not by nearly as much as he might want. The Atlantic, which ran the original article, also ran an effective counter-opinion piece that argued Emmanuel's argument is essentially an economic one, but he framed it as a moral and philosophical one, which is rather disingenuous. It was also rather damning of his rarefied perspective whose life and career arc have been smoothed by an upper-middle-class lifestyle and lifetime tenure at a university.
Indeed, in the article he argues from his perspective only. "By the time I reach 75, I will have lived a complete life. I will have loved and been loved. My children will be grown and in the midst of their own rich lives. I will have seen my grandchildren born and beginning their lives. I will have pursued my life’s projects and made whatever contributions, important or not, I am going to make."
So...what if you had children relatively late and they are still in their 20s or 30s? What if your grandchildren have not been born yet? What if you have neither? What if you have not done all the super amazing things he has done, and have the super awesome family he has?
Leonard Cohen embarked on a world tour when he was 74, and completed it at 79. If he had died at 75, one year into the tour, many of us would have missed out on the only chance we would ever have gotten to see him live, as he hadn't toured for many years previous to that. He would not be nearly as well known to younger audiences as he is today. He released two albums. It was practically a second career for him.
My grandmother died at the age of 90 after two years in a nursing home. She had dementia, and those years were not easy. She required a lot of care. It were expensive for us. But she wasn't really suffering. Ironically, her dementia became serious so quickly that she was not cognizant enough of her circumstances to be upset by them. And until the age of 88, she enjoyed a reasonably good quality of life.
If she had died at 75, I would have been 18. Instead, I was 33, and got to know and appreciate her so much more than I would have otherwise. I wonder what Dr. Emmanuel would say about that?
His argument is that of a globalist eugenicist. He probably doesn't even believe it he's just pushing the agenda of population control for the elitists
@@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard He is actually against euthanasia and doctor assisted suicide. did you read it??
I'm guessing Kamala suggested this guy to Joe...
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Does this guy know that Joe just turned 78? Someone better tell Joe real quick about his new hire.
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Joe is shaking in his boots. If he goes Camel will be present.
First, this doctor is ageist. Second, by implication he thinks everyone with an inherited or acquired, permanent disability might as well die now because they are not perfect and never will be. Third, as a doctor he knows perfectly well that people do not age at the same rate. Fourth, he knows that the vast majority of people were not Nobel Prize candidates to begin with. Some have never had all that brilliance and creativity he believes he himself is full of. Some do, but they belong to a minority group that is not welcome at the highest levels, and/or they didn't have the money to go to Ivy League schools. Fifth, as a doctor he knows that not getting vaccinated for the flu and other contagious diseases, likewise not getting antibiotics for contagious bacterial diseases, means you transmit them to other people. Who may be vulnerable and not want to die--or just not want to spend days in bed, unable to work and feeling miserable. If there is a shortage of vaccines or treatments we should just manufacture more! Sixth, many of us are perfectly happy in our old age just doing whatever pathetic things peons not as brilliant and successful as he is do with their lives. Seventh, this strikes me as a right-wing argument to kill Medicare. Of course, I am sure that won't affect him. He has enough money to pay for treatment. What a jerk.
For him, 75 is far too generous.
I’m glad he’s not my doctor
What makes life meaningful?
To live ALL your life for the Glory of God. That life never stop.
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I think Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, although not 75 should take one for the team, set an example and oft him self. The origin of his diluted mind must be straight out of “Practical Ethics” written by Peter Singer. Animals have more rights than Humans.
I never wanna die! I support the technology that helps us live hundreds of years! i dont care if its immoral!
I'd only wanna live forever if I could stay young forever. Youth is the only thing worth having. Once you lose your youth you lose everything
God won’t let us live on a sin cursed earth forever. And I’m happy for that.
NWO way , not God’s way .
Is he dead yet? Now it's 2019, this was 2014
He is 63. Let's see how he feels at 75...what a joke. Talk is cheap!
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Well "doctor", why not do to yourself what you do to innocent patients???????
Okay so this guys not really a big fan of the elderly, so what, it's not like he's in a key position in U.S. health care!
You fucking moron, Biden has indicated he will be on his coronavirus task force and will most likely be given a job in the Biden administration. Thanks once again for proving how stupid Democrats are.
@@JJG86 I assume you don’t understand sarcasm when you see it.
Jeff Smith I guess I missed it. Not really a joking matter.
Well there's too many elderly anyway who are just doing themselves no favours by spending more years in poor health and costing us money to keep them alive
This man is sick
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Because he has a different opinion than you?
I only listened to about 10 minutes total at different time stamps of the video. I concluded that this guy is weird. I already new that my life at 75 is not going to be the same as when I was 55. I think everyone knows that. If somebody wants to change their diet and start exercising at age 55 then more power to them. To say you shouldn’t is ridiculous. Like I said this guy has a weird way of thinking and I’m not into it.
Genesis 3, 24. He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.
God saves life.
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