Time Team S18-E05 The Furnace in the Forest
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2024
- Dense and tranquil woodland in the County Durham countryside seems an unlikely venue for Time Team's investigation into the earliest days of the Industrial Revolution. But 200 years ago Derwentcote was at the heart of an iron and steel-producing complex that fuelled the spread of empire.
Over three days the Team fight through the undergrowth to reveal the furnaces and forges that produced the raw materials of industry under appalling conditions.
As well as their chainsaws and mechanical diggers, the archaeologists draw on an unusual resource: the memoirs of an 18th-century industrial spy who visited the site. And with the help of old records they can even put names and trades to the people who occupied the workers' cottages that once stood alongside the works.
It's a story of how cottage industry gave way to the might of the industrial cities such as Sheffield, and the Team uncover the highs and lows of the working life of Derwentcote. On top of all that, Tony discovers how excited grown men can be when they get to analyse huge lumps of 200-year-old slag!
Thank you Reijer, for loading these videos of Time Team. I love learning about the history of different places.
I love this series! I'm a huge archaeology fan and history buff. This is such a wonderful, educational series. When it first came on the History channel, I always made sure I was at home with the snacks sitting in front of my TV ready to go when it came on and always watched the second run later in the evening. It's as if one cannot put a spade down anywhere in Britain without digging up something from another era. For me here in the Western US, the series is rich in history that we just don't have.
Reijee Zaaijer, thank you for posting these programs! The only thing that would be icing on the Time Team cake would have been Tony Robinson doing a show as Baldrick!
Same reason I'm hooked. This series must have gone on for at least a couple decades. I've watched the cast age, but that's OK, they've done it with charm and good humor.
I love the episodes and then I go and look up information on it. Helps on the stay home procedures now in place.
The iron blast furnace was a great episode... thank you,for such a great group of proffessional diggers that we can all call family. You make happiness from Heritage.
GREAT episode. Still love this show. Wish it would come back with original crew. Mick RIP. Kelly/Indiana
Look at the channel "time team classics" its coming back with two digs by the end of this year.
I live in Utah in the US but I love this show. I'm of English/Welch/ Scottish decent and have loved learning so much about the history of Btitain from this show.
My ancestry is similar but also includes French and German, and I love the prehistoric, Anglo Saxon, Roman and middle ages episodes. Ah, I like them all! The amount history in England is astonishing. I want to go to the hardware store, buy a spade and start scraping the ground. My neighbors would wonder what I was doing to which I would reply, "I'm looking for a Roman mosaic floor!" Then they would know for sure that I've lost mind.
It’s 12 o’clock on day one and John is geophysing the path. Exciting! 🤣🤣
One of the BEST! I enjoyed it so much I watched it twice!
Thank you Time Team..
I love this series, but at least twice Tony says steel is a purer form of iron, which is not correct. Steel is iron with carbon added, an alloy.
I'm so glad you clarified that, I thought something was amiss there but I didn't know enough to say what.
That photograph at the end is my favorite part, I must say. I love how they recreate the original
Fantastic program. I am originally from Western Pennsylvania. We have remnants of all those wonderful industrial age furnaces and forges. And memories of Carnegie and Frick, too.
Thanks for posting.
Where I live, in New Jersey, there are the remains of early Victorian age, bog iron towns dotted through out the Pine Barrens. Quite a few glass making towns from the same era, as well.
+Anon Nymous And the bog iron produced doesn't rust, it's effectively pre-oxidized.
Trenton, NJ is famous for its iron railed marble steps. You can tell the modern steel replacements because they all have red stains around the bases.
Patterson, NJ is known for the glass factories.
I am in love with this show and the people! can't stop watching these! good thing there's 15 years to be watched. I'll grow old and happy doing so though!
just sayin
Actually there's 20 years plus specials, etc..
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 i now have even more to watch!!!
@@dano4572
Have fun! 🍻
43:36 "Francis has gone mad." LOL
I love TT and I watched all episodes, some even more than once. But what I keep thinking that it must be so frustrating to work on something for 3 days and when you finally get somewhere, you have to leave it and go home ...
It's a mindset shift ... some sites proceed for months or years, and others are over in days or hours. People in the profession know they will work on both types of sites during their careers. The Time Team premise from the beginning (worked out by Tim Taylor and Mick Aston) was to do "survey archaeology" in a brief time period, passing on any followup research (which often does occur) to established local institutions. A guy I know here in the U.S. works for an archaeo firm that provides the legally required supervision for certain construction projects -- recognizing human and cultural remains unearthed by heavy equipment operations. He _is_ frustrated at times that he can't follow up on interesting finds -- but he knows that at least he is ensuring that the revealed archaeology is being recognized and recorded. Sidenote: he is an avid flint knapper ...as is Phil Harding!
Remember this is there second job. Some of the sites get a more thorough investigation later on.
Gosh, based on the good reviews about the usual wonderful interactions between the archaeologists on this one, I should give it a try. I have generally avoided all the ones about industrial work because I find the subject a snore. But I love those people so much!
I stumbled upon this half asleep, turned out to be a pretty cool video. Nodded off a few times though because I was sleepy.
I do believe I laughed more during this episode than any other TT. They had so much fun! Frances Pryor wasn't even annoying to me, and that is saying a LOT! I know some people have a problem with Stewart but the fact is, he's been right 99% of the time. I share his love for maps though, so maybe I'm biased! LOL Funniest part had to be Phil with his clogged hose though.... still laughing at that!
As i see it you/re either a Francis Prior person or a Phil Harding person. it was good to see them working together on this one! I personally like Phil and Stewart Ainsworth the most.
Why? I like them both. I'm a Time Team person.
I love them both and Stewart. Francis used to be annoying with his incessant supposition that everything is ritualistic and religious... which has kinda become a standing joke by now in the show, but he's a lovely bloke, full of character and has an awesome ability to see positives in things most people view negatively.
While Time Team unquestionably experienced problems, particularly in its final years, this much-loved show was an astonishing success, propelling modern archaeology into the public conscious as never before. As Francis Pryor observed on his blog, in many ways the real question is ‘what went right?’
For me, it's gotta be Mick, Phil and Stewart - but I also adore Matt Williams - his cute grin and boyish enthusiasm along with being up for anything gets me every time.
@@conorleeson-davis6666, definitely Mick & Phil!
Hmmm ... will Phil's trowel & hat make it into some museum somewhere? (He can keep his shorts, though!)
I grew up in Weirton, West Virginia, then a steel city. Before it had a name, in the 1700s, English settler Peter Tarr started an iron furnace business. Later, during the War of 1812, it produced cannon balls for the Lake Erie fleet. It's remains are the oldest standing structure in the city.
francis has gone mad...lol. The end photo was fantastic!
Further along the river where i lived there was a Roman fort called Vindomora, a bit further after that is a place called Shotley Bridge where they made famous swords, further up the hill is Consett, where there was a huge Iron works. Interesting how they linked an iron works near Newcastle to the slave trade, but in another episode forgot to mention that Francis Drake was king of slave trading and not really so great as they made out.
I had to listen to Judas Priest “British Steel” after watching this one.
Tony , Tony . Steel is not a "purer form of iron" it is actually iron with something added . Carbon .
I live near a similar blast furnace dating from 1690’s with a well preserved engine house called “Rockley Furnace” I’d love time team to come and dig it all up! Its in much better condition than this one but is still over grown with parts lost to shrubbery.
With Francis Pryor around, it was ritual iron making....
I like all on the time team people with varying degrees but with Francis I feel so bad for him when the geophysics go wonky. Tony's smile and hint of mild sarcasm, Phil's laugh. .oh it is infectious, Stewart with his jaunts and seeing the way the land goes. The artists and their talent. The list of archeologists, excavators, machine operators and do so on just make this an enjoyable show.
"Steel is simply a more pure form of iron" ahhh I love Tonyquotes.
@@shainemaine1268 he actually made me doubt myself for a bit there. Seems a shame to have an 'educational' program that essentially states that the concept of steel is the opposite of what it actually is. I know the show's about archeology rather than metallurgy, but someone should have caught that.
If a show about metalworking would casually mention the bronze age came áfter the iron age, I'm pretty sure Tony would be annoyed.
@@omikronweapon this show is rife with scientific inaccuracies... But I couldn't let that one go haha
Deep in the heart of Co. Durham? It's in fact right on the northern edge of Co. Durham, Walk a 100 yards north and you'll be in Tyne & Wear.
I enjoy thinking about what is underground and out of sight.... forgotten about! Without knowing it is totally possible to rewrite history isn't it?
I love you Phil. :)
Who let Tony use power tools?
"Horse flies the size of 50 p pieces?" Is that big or small? 😂
"Horse flies the size of 50 pence pieces". Ha ha ha
Oh Phil really do love Phil!
I'm always shocked by how much soil accumulates in just a hundred to two hundred years in some places. All that dying vegetation, I suppose.
Really cool for a big mess!
"Leat" was originally a word from the South West of England and was an artificial stream which supplied water usually to to an industrial process but sometimes to a remote(ish) habitation - a farm for instance. I grew up in Cornwall and it was a common word which applied to tin works.
iron is almost pure while steel has added elements, mainly coal to harden it, so steel is an alloy they are hammered the same way but steel is hammered and reheated multiple times more or purified and mixed by crucible meltingto exactly control the amount of coal added to the mix.
If The Crucible furnace was melting Iron and Steel, what were the pots made of that they didn't melt?
Mostly clay. They did melt a bit though, you'd only get a few uses from a crucible pot before it'd be too weak to use. There would be someone on site making new ones full time
Many thanks to the posters who caught the errors between 6:00 and 7:30 in the description of steel vs. iron. It's an example of the last two seasons' shortcuts/budget cuts. Normally one would expect that the writing would be more accurate, and/or if the host mis-spoke, the scene would be re-shot. In the last couple of seasons, there are more of these errors. In season 17, episode 13, Tony said the Romans ground maize - total boo-boo, and no one caught it. Sad.
Keep in mind, we're talking pre industrial revolution. I did a little research, essentially what Tony said is right because it was experimentation with cast iron at that point.
Does Time Team have their own digger drivers? The name Ian keeps coming up and one another whose name I don`t recall.
In the previous episode Tony had quite a tummy but now in this episode he's almost svelte? Hmm🤠
Is it feel like deja vu to anyone else? They did a Doomsday Mill before, have they not?
+Fedra Haldane
*feeling
+Fedra Haldane
Gahh, nevermind, I got my titles confused :)
Bloody 'ell, they finally let the backhoe driver get some lines in.
Stewart to the rescue
'16:34 that's a fair drop of water innit, innit? :P
Here on Google Earth:
Derwentcote Steel Furnace
54°54'13.0"N 1°47'51.5"W
Thanks for posting. Interestingly, today, that doesn't work on Google Earth or Maps, but does on maps.bing.com.
Just a bunch of trees, though. "Derwentcote Farm Cottage Forge Lane, Durham, NE17 7"
I don't see why they couldn't send a vegetation cleaning team to these sites in the preceding week(s).
They are using a Stihl chainsaw! Shouldn't they use a Danarm?
Hahaha! They all point to Phil!
Illustration at 12:52 shows a kind of lamp which was not invented until 1854.
Your figuring out 'why' from doing the dig.
Francis: "Graphite flakes, graphite flakes, graphite flakes, graphite...." Tony: "Francis has gone mad...." I just love Francis...lol
replace him
I am sure I heard the hosts voice before. In a movie saying something about going to see the wizard.
Don't you know who he is?? That's Baldrick! Google Tony Robinson, he's a busy actor, but also does voice and other presentations.
I only started watching this show a few weeks ago. I've never heard of him.
Gitar Zan He played a much beloved character in Blackadder called Baldrick. He's also done quite a number of other things. He's cool.
Is time Team a UK show ? I never heard of it here in Colorado until I found it on YT here a few weeks ago. Thanks for the info friend.
Gitar Zan Yes, it is a British program. cheers
Newcastle brown ale.... Mmmmmm.
Durham gets alot of attention from T.T.
Love this series, thanks for the upload. Only thing i don't like is they have a small budget for 3 days.Seems people never learn from the past mistakes. this is an example from that with those 3 days budget. If you don't know your past, you still live in the dark ages, its that simple...
@alanrtment porter
He ought to be - but he probably isn't.
A great show that TV exec completely screwed up.
Graphite flakes!
Ed Herdman Sounds like breakfast.
can somebody tell me why they only have 3 days
It creates drama. At its core this was still a TV show.
All the main crew have steady university jobs in different cities. Thus, the three days are a weekend with 1-day's leave of abscence from the workweek. Summer programs surely means less of a teaching load during the week.
Anyone want to argue if Crucially Important is good English?
24:21 lmao
The host stated fairly early in the program, that steel is a more pure form of iron. This is in error. Steel, in a simple form, is an alloy of carbon and iron. Furthermore, on crucible steel, carbon was added to iron bars, to produce steel in the melt. The fact that the resulting steel that was analyzed was at 1% carbon, shows good control for manufacturing quality tool steel for the times. They would not have used existing steel bars, as it would have thrown off the percentage of carbon in the end resulting steel. There was at the time, no reliable way to determine the amount of carbon in a steel bar produced by the cementation process.
While I enjoy the series, they should do more study into areas they have little or no knowledge, as all of the above corrections are readily available in books at most libraries.
But he said " a much more pure form". That statement is not that it was a pure form...just more of. Right?
the more pure iron becomes, the further from steel it becomes.
gfodale cheers
gfodale I caught that too when Tony said that. He's clearly not a man of industry....but then again neither am I! LOL I'm just surprised that nobody corrected him.
We just did lol :)
Graphite flakes!!!!!!!
Select "Thumb Down" if viewing from an Institution for the Defective... Tks...
Phil's accent is the best. Is that what is called Cockney?
Er, no. It's a *'Ampshire* accent - *Phil* is a cowboy, not a cockney (not all cowboys are *American!* ).
Philip Potter Thanks kindly! So, he's from the southern centre of England? Is that the traditional cattle county?
Well, at one time the city of Winchester was the capital of England! The area is basically rural but the farming has always been mixed. The 'cowboy' comment refers to an old English folk song called "The Cowboy and the Cockney". The 'Cowboy' in this song is a countryman rather than a townie.
English accents are probably difficult for people unfamiliar with them - and even for those who are! Mick Aston came from an industrial area of the British Midlands and Tony Robinson from London.
Does that help?
Phil.
Phil Harding (the Time Team one, not my friend the mathematician, Doctor Phil Harding) lives in the city of Winchester in the County of Hampshire. Winchester was once the capital of England and it is about 30 miles from the South Coast and not quite in the West Country.
He's an 'Ampshire 'Og.
Hampshire is not an industrial county and much of it is very rural still. There is a lot of beautiful countryside. Hampshire is also home to much history (think of the New Forest) as well as several seaside resorts (Bournemouth is very genteel - and boring).
Phil.
He's not from Hampshire, he's from Wiltshire. It's called a West Countries accent.
Does anyone really think that he is going to cut down all those weeds by himself?
This sounds like a Hardy Boys book lol
Glad I'm not the only one who's mind went with that thought!
Odd that Tony seems to be (deliberately?) pronouncing "Newcastle" with a northern accent despite being a Londoner
Those bird eggs were more likely snake or turtle eggs.
In the North of the UK? Not likely.
Birds don't bury their eggs in dank holes and leave them because if they do the eggs die.
Dwight E Howell There's no evidence that they were found in a 'dank hole', only that they were a bit muddy. And as for being left, They'd just stuck a big digger and a load of people in the area. The parents aren't likely to stick around. The ground can often be a warm place to have eggs too as it acts as an insulator and snake eggs are susceptible to the elements too anyway. A bird seems much more likely due to the rarity of snakes in that region. As for the possibility of them belonging to a turtle, that's impossible.
Your recollection of the find of the eggs and mine don't match. Cheers.
Dwight E Howell
I am pretty sure they are Kingfisher's eggs.
Its heart warming to see the archaeologists digging up finds hidden for them by the locals.
Lp
Ll
At last, an episode without the annoying wannabe aka helen geake. Brilliant show, thanks guys.
Conor Leeson, you want to see a wannbe, then look in a mirror and wave hello.
holy shit! ... a 200 year old metal refining site! ... a woods that doesn't have a tree over 60 years old (by the looks of it)! ... wow! ... let's go jump a shark! ... by the way, Phil is one step away from where he really belongs ... analyzing the contents of septic tanks that are over 25 years old! FFS!
LOL
+nyctreeman From a corn grinding mill to the birth of industrial steel production used to produce tools for use in the American colonies over a period of about 360 years is far from a shark jump.
I guess your definition of archeology ends with what, the middle ages? Rome? Egypt?
You would be lucky to clean the muck off Phil Harding's boots.
Stannous Flouride
here's a clue ... if he has muck on his shoes, chances are he's investigating a 1960s septic tank ... thanks for playing, sparky.
shame you're só annoyed that you're attacking the very people you're watching. Here's a tip: If you're watching a show with a cast you dislike, and subjects you aren't interested in, go watch something else. Saves aggro for yóu, and people around you.