Best, most detailed, real world info and review on the Rally Pro I've seen so far...and I've seen them ALL as I'm buying this bike! Thanks Steve. Great job!
Finally a positive review of the bikes that I have put over 5,000 miles on of 50/50 riding in Colorado. Anyone who says this bike is not capable off road simply doesn't know how to ride off road.
I agree completely. I absolutely love riding the hard stuff on a big bike. It's a much more rewarding experience and feeling of accomplishment in my personal opinion.
Mark Jacobs, have you ridden it on trails or mostly back roads (unpaved, etc). Comparing it to my heavily modded KTM 890 Adventure R and would love some input. Any BDR’s in Colorado? I’m looking to get one of the Tiger’s and love this new adventure rally pro version in the matte green
What I like about Steve is that you know from his experience racing a 1200 XE that he actually does know how to handle a big bike off road and really push it to the limit, so his evaluation has credibility.
You forgot one of the biggest changes from the 800 to 900! Owners don't have to hacksaw their passenger pegs off any more to avoid damaging the frame (even worse) on a crash! Great video dude
Steve, we gotta get you out on a T7. I’m surprised you didn’t nab a demo ride at Dirt Daze in NH. Are you planning on coming back next year? Be cool as hell to bump into you there!
Hi Steve, this is so perfect and awesome review. I had few query in mind and you answered them. It has all the stuff I require. Getting really pro in 2022 Feb. Cheers.
Great to see you back again. Thanks for the review - given your history with the 800, your words on the bike carry a great deal more weight than the others. I'm still happy with my '18 Xca which remains the best bike that I've owned or ridden. I'll just continue to *not* ride a new 900 and call well enough alone. Whew, I'm tired.
Steve I would LOVE to see you on Spurge's Highside Lowside podcast, you guys seem to mesh so well together I think you'd be AWESOME on there. Love the video, made my night! Super psyched for more content.
A most excellent review and thanks for the humor...I really needed it. I second the feeling with another commentator dude...flashbacks of no mask/pre-Covid bring a tear to my eye. Keep up the great work!
Solid review. One thing though, if you ever hear of me carrying 60-100 lbs (or really, over 30) into the woods, call the cops because I'm hiding a corpse!
Everyone laughs at me for this but I didn’t mind the old engine and I thought it was pretty hilarious of triumph to stuff it into an adventure bike. Inefficiency is where character and soul is born.
Hey Steve! Great job on this review! How about the GT Pro? I agree 100% with your review of the 850 Sport as well. Triumph builds great bikes for all riders! These bikes are all capable, affordable, and are premium. I would purchase another Triumph in a heartbeat.
Really good review. "Hooks up like a Trophy truck", great comment, it sold me !(actually it really did make me think about the traction angle) I reckon Triumph should pay Steve a royalty to use that one!
As always, really enjoyable video. I was actually unaware of the rake angle topic. Great to know. These Tigers have always seemed like the best jack of all trades ADV. All of its competitors tend to focus in on being the best in one aspect while the Tiger went for everything. I dig em. Also, I had an opportunity to sit on a KTM 890R Rally last week and laughed because I was able to do that before I even saw a friggin T7. Never would’ve guessed that would happen. Thanks again for the vids.
The steep rake on my ‘18 xCA just makes me do a lot more work in more gnarly stuff. The rake angle is actually a top 3 reason I’m looking at the 890R, others being the brakes (which are pretty terrible), and the top heavy feel.
@@jaronard1 I keep eyeballing the 890Rs but have seen REALLY good deals on some used F850GSs and some leftover Scrambler 1200s (if that’s anyone’s thing). Every bike has their quirks, but I was surprised to see the number of weird leaks and breaks on KTM 790Rs. Even some known you tubers saw issues. My local shop has 890s right now and the temptation is high.
@@inthesupernovashadow amazing, the power of in stock inventory, lol. 790Rs were harder to get than a vaccine dose last couple of years, so didn’t really entertain the idea.
Awesome review, I'm stepping away from the HD world a bit at considering the tiger. Torn between the GT pro or Rally Pro. GT fits me better. Plan on some touring and getting back into motocamping. At 62 yrs of age I dont plan on aggressive dirt riding. Have you reviewed the GT and any thoughts on its abilities to handle moderate off road or is it too road biased. Thanks
I rode the gt at this launch as well. Both bikes will be close to the same in gravel at lower speeds. I rode my tiger 800 roadie everywhere and through everything. Either way you'll be fine so I would say get the bike that fits best
Hello Steve, Your original upload of this video was a contributing factor to me finally pulling the trigger on this bike and putting down a deposit a couple of weeks back here in the UK. Am I right in thinking you ended up with one of these and if you did are you going to be doing a longer term based review on it? Be great to hear your views on pros/ cons/ mods on this bike. Thanks.
Good review , I never been a fan of the tiger , always seemed pointless haveing a triple in an adventure bike , top heavy too . This model seems better
Hi Steve, nice and fun review! I did already see a lot of it at ADV pulse I guess, but this was more fun to see. Good job sharing it! Question: you were comparing the Tiger 900 with the 800 sometimes, but was it with the old 2011-2014 (gen 1), the 2015-2017 (gen 2) or the latest 2018-2020 model (gen 3), because over the years the 800 transformed quite a lot as in, electronics, riding modes, suspension, braking, shorter first gear, etc. I recently upgraded from a 2015 gen 2 XCx to a 2018 gen 3 XCa, mostly because it had lesser km/miles and had newer gadgets (heated seats, digital dash, better brakes, etc.). The 900 also was way to expensive for me (with the cases and other accessories), and for my kind of riding which is around 80% road and 20% offroad (quite a newbie in offroad riding) the latest 800 is perfect I guess. But does a beginner feel the difference between the new 900 and the latest 800? Maybe in a couple of years the 900 is the next one for me. But maybe the GS will win, you'll never know. 😁
Comparisons to older 800s span all 3 gets. You know you have the best 800 but the 900 is only way better in the brake department. Everything else is nominal upgrades for 80% road riding. The 900 is a touch smaller which is nice. The commentary is actually a different take than rge adv pulse video so it is actually different but same
Hi Steve, I'm looking at a new ADV bike in the next month or so. Ive got 3 mates that have T7's and 1 has a 850 GSA so I can extensivly ride those before I test the 2020 Africa Twin. My questions is, when you're comparing this bike to the Africa Twin, were you referring to old model or the new 2020 model?
Both. The AT is a really well laid out cheater bike. Think 1000 or 1100 motor stuffed in a 800cc package but also detuned, I like the idea of the T7 if your mates have em too. Troubleshooting and parts and tools will all be interchangeable
For a Jersey boy who claims to hate the desert in so many of his videos, you seem to find your way to one of them quite often...welcome to AZ, definitely beats the pine barrens this time of year, and in my opinion, any time of the year. ;)
Amazing review! Loved the advpulse article too! That slide crash at the beginning looked rough but the bike seemed unscathed! Any scratches or damage to it? As a Tiger 900 owner would you recommend upper engine/tank guards or are the RP stock guards good enough?
Great review! I was considering the 900, but was to inpatient and bought the 1200. I doubt I will take if off road in the fashion you have with the 900 but have done some off road. Mostly gravel roads with the Ms. on the back. I have subcribed and look forward to your next video!
Great review 👍 Owner of the Rally Pro got it last June in OZ. Can't ride off-road same as you but gaining confidence! Want to know if you were in off-road or off-road-pro mode mostly?
Hey Steve in your experience do the stock handguards hold up decently in a drop? I'm eventually going to upgrade but trying to stay on the cheap side for now and just curious if they're as sturdy as they seem
Cool video, good info. Im based in Seattle and that Magic moments video was great. Quick question; on the regular rally, would you know if pulling the ABS fuse will essentially turn it into off-road-pro mode? According to the manual it should disable ABS and TC completely. I’m hoping to save some cash and put it in my own guards and skid plate. Anyway, thanks for the videos.
A while back you posted a couple of videos of you riding a BMW R1250 GSA on some seriously gnarly terrain. Be great to have a review on the BMW R1250 similar to this one on the Tiger 900.
Excellent detailed review with some fun stuff . Looks like you boys can ride! I’m new to off road but done a lot of tarmac over the years. Looking for a bike I can tour on and start some off roading, Morocco, Pyrenees, Wales! Thinking the 900 Rally Pro fits the bill, any thoughts?
Nice video...i need a suggestion brother , I ride 350cc bike and i am thinking of Rally pro....Is it a good decision to switch from 350cc to 900 or i should go for 600,700series....??Love from India😊
Hi Steve, with the reviews and walk arounds I saw of the new 900 it seems like I noticed a fault which Triumph also made with the gen 1 in 2011. They didn't build in a rear shock protector. With my 2015 XCx gen 2 en 2018 XCa gen 3 Tiger 800's they were covered as they saw that it wasn't good. They fixed it at the time for the gen 2 en gen 3. But here again it looks like they left to much space between the mudguard and the swingarm so dirt can hit the rear shock. With some other guy's 900 I thought it was maybe because it was on the centre stand but with your bike it isn't and I see that the rear shock will be full of mud with the 900. What do you think of that? Fault or not so terrible? 😁
Steve, now that I actually have the bike: triumph in the manual for off-road recommends to bump pre-load on the fork all the way up while decreasing the preload on the rear suspension to the minimum (I haven't tried that yet). From what I infer from that information - they are actually increasing rake angle. Have you tried that? Does that work? Thanks!
Yes I believe the 900 is way better than my 2019 800. But I’m never gonna push mine anywhere near her limits. Banging around State Parks is about as harsh as I’m looking to do. BTW you and Spurge are completely NUTS, would love to sit down, drink beers and talk sh!t. Happy Trails and Cheers to a NEW YEAR!!! 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
@@steve_kamrad5216 .......reading through the comments, I see you bought a 900, that screams volumes to me. Well Done Steve....👍🏼.......➡️........(900)
This is what I needed right about now. Thank you Steve. Oh also, I test rode this bike. Its awesome. I loved it. And then I saw the MSRP. I'll think about looking for a heavily discounted leftover in February lol.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I'm still getting by fine on my Aprilia Caponord Rally until I get my hands on a Tiger. Plus it's always hilarious watching the looks on people's faces when they see me jumping and riding dirt bike trails on a 600 lb bike lol. My favorite bike I've ever owned was my old ktm 950 Super Enduro but the fuel mileage was so bad I always questioned if I'd make it home. Ran out of fuel in the woods several times. I think a tiger 900 would nicely split the difference between my old ktm 950 and my current Aprilia 1200. Either way, I'm gonna try my best to put it through it's paces lol.
New KLR 650, KTM 890, Triumph 900 Rally Pro.. which one is a great bike for Las Vegas desert roads, sand/rocks, and getting to them and my calve muscles have disappeared (in my 60's) and 31 inch inseam so seat height is important as well. It's been years since i owned a bike and am thinking about getting one. I am not up to hard technical stuff. Just want to enjoy the ride and handle some sand and rocks if the trail/road unexpectedly require it. Also good fuel range. Thanks for the review.
@@steve_kamrad5216 Thanks for the quick reply. Clearly I'm facing the age old question of fun vs. practicality and you're not making the decision any easier :). Keep up the good work!
hi dear friend. , love your super dynamic analysis! ....comparing the overall which would you pick? the tiger 900 rally pro or the scrambler 1200 xe? in terms of going around the world, which pick? saludos/greetings from Chile
Steve Can you indicate a suspension setup for off road use of my Tiger 900 Rally Pro, with about 25 pounds back luggage? My weight is about 210 pounds, fully equipped Thanks for any help
The owners manual indicates you're supposed to dial in the suspension in for offroad riding by dialing the front spring preload to max on the forks and dial the spring preload back on the rear which gets the rake to around 27deg. ua-cam.com/video/HimQEfDbnHw/v-deo.html
This bike or the BMW 850 Adventure? I would say my riding would be ~40/60 off-road/street. My off-road riding isn't anything insane, but the dirt roads I will be riding on can be a little rough/loose/rocky in places. I plan to do some riding in southern Utah (so some sand). Thoughts? I know the BMW is a very capable road machine, but I worry about the weight (should mention I'm a newbie to off-road biking).
Get the tiger, 100% beast on the street. Set the forks on the tiger flush with the triple trees and dial in about 4 millimeters of preload on the rear and the bike handles mud or sand much better than stock also 35 extra cc's of fork in each leg helps a bunch too
I've reviewed the gt as well on my page, it's really fun. The rp is the goat and gives up nothing but the gt is priced really well. If you want spoked wheels for offroad then get the rp 100
For those who are torn between the Tiger 900 RP and the Scrambler 1200 XE. Since they're almost similar in price, what would be the deciding factor to pick one after the other?
Great video as I am weighing the Rally Pro to the 1250GSA. Preferring the size and the additional off-road capability but I’m also looking for a long distance tourer for heading cross continents and into the wilderness. Sounds like the RP is a real winner
Awesome review, very complete and useful information I did a test ride and couldn't get on with the ergonomics of the chasis/ tank. There was a protection sticking out from the chasis making my legs uncomfortable when trying to hold the bike off road or spirited riding tarmac. I felt the suspension a bit worst for riding fast than the WP, too plush but much more comfortable for broken terrain.
I noticed the frame protection rubbing my legs when I test rode the bike also. If I end up buying one, those will have to go. Hopefully they revise that part with next years bike.
Great video. I didn't understand what you were explaining about being able to see the front suspension and being able to pull it though to get an extra 3°. I have a Rally Pro and I love the bike but I do find the front end washes out in sand. Any tips on improving the front suspension for off-road would be very helpful. Thank you.
Turn the preload on the front all the way up. All the way down on the rear. Then pull the fork tube down in the triple trees so that the tops are flush with the triple clamps.
@@steve_kamrad5216 thank you so much for the tips and quick response. If you ever need another Rally Pro to test and you are in the NJ area feel free to hit me up. Have a happy New Year and stay safe.
@@steve_kamrad5216 nice, I live in Marlton NJ. If you are ever looking to ride with someone or want some help shooting a video let me know. I have some GoPros, Mavic Pro Drone. I am sure you already have everything you need already from watching your high quality videos, but I thought I would put it out there anyways. All that said I am no were near the experience level as your are off road.
@@steve_kamrad5216 Starting to think about buying this over the Honda AT AS. I have a reconstructed knee so I need to be able to lift the bike up with 1.25 legs because I can’t put too much pressure on my bad knee. So I want something I can ride 8-12 hours on the road and then find a trail and set up camp or just go for a hour or two out of Nashville to get to some trails and spend a couple hours riding the trails before coming home or maybe camping.
The BMW is little lower and feels a little lighter but if it was me I go tiger for the motor alone. Also for the price. And the suspension and the brakes
@Steve - I saw this review and I liked it. This is a question on a different bike: Harley Davidson has just released the Pan America. If anyone can assess this bike,, you can. Can you ask to review it?
It's a hard first bike to learn on but just run zero preload on the rear and add 40cc of fork oil in each leg and it will handle much better offroad. On road the 900 rp is the best
Only if I could it economically. But also I own a dirt bike I spend a lot of time on. And then just call racetech and get the suspension on the Tiger set up. Go up 2 spring rates in the front no matter what they recommend paired with the rear spring. Or go down on the rear spring a bit. Race tech always over springs the rear. Then you got two weapons. If you are gonna stay strictly adv bike and only ride gravel. Get a 850gt! Best bang for the buck by far
Nice Review, Thanks.I'm considering the GT Pro, but what really puts me off is the really bland colours available. Instead I'm now leaning towards the V-Strom 1050 XT.
When are you going to do the bike comparison because all the bikes you just listed are all the bikes I am looking at and nobody really does a review for guys who want an ADV primarily for off road first and yes of course we use them on the street but that's mainly just to get to the trails. The big GS seems to be unlivable for someone that can ride approximately around your skill level in the rough stuff so it looks like this light heavyweight or mid class (whatever anyone wants to call it) is kind of the best option for those of us who are dirt first oriented. Sure some muppet will say just get a KTM and they wouldn't be wrong but this is a second bike to my GasGas EC300I which is for just sending it and racing but which is the bike or bikes for guys who can ride as clearly you can that we can live with picking up in a bad spot (not in a parking lot of Starbucks) can eat long miles with the creature comforts yet get through (ADV) technical stuff and do it well. Thank you for all the great vids, you are awesome!
Thanks man! Unfortunately the manufacturers won't support me like that and that would be a bear of a project. For you. A ktm 890 would be an easy bet but I don't think they're the end all be all. T7 VS tiger 900rp might be you. 10k vs 17k. But the tiger is such a much nicer bike and on the street it's amazing. Can't go wrong really. But I own a tiger 900rp and a scrambler 1200xe.
@@steve_kamrad5216 the new Multi will be good of course but without a 21inch in the front a adventure bike is a no-go!! the new 1290 Superadventure is for me the best big adventure bike ever,if you get a chance to ride it,DO IT and bring out a great video!!!
@@steve_kamrad5216 I’d probably better pay off the other two bikes I have loans on right now. And maaaaaaaybe tell my gal about the fourth bike in my garage..😬🤭🤫
@@federanger tiger 900 rally pro. Too many switches on the Honda and the motor is not as exciting at the tiger 900. If you're going in a lot of sand or deep gravel go AT but as a street bike the Tiger 900 is better for swinging a leg over every day
I'm so happy that you're putting up videos again.
Me too dude
Best, most detailed, real world info and review on the Rally Pro I've seen so far...and I've seen them ALL as I'm buying this bike! Thanks Steve. Great job!
Thank you! Finally a reviewer who knows how to ride a bike hard and doesn’t just spout a list of specifications.
exactly what I was thinking..finallly someone who does more than reading spec sheets ...
Thank you. This means a lot
@@Swanhunter84 thanks dude. Appreciate you saying that
@@steve_kamrad5216 You’re welcome, I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro last week and love it. You should get commission 😄
Finally a positive review of the bikes that I have put over 5,000 miles on of 50/50 riding in Colorado. Anyone who says this bike is not capable off road simply doesn't know how to ride off road.
I agree completely. I absolutely love riding the hard stuff on a big bike. It's a much more rewarding experience and feeling of accomplishment in my personal opinion.
Mark Jacobs, have you ridden it on trails or mostly back roads (unpaved, etc). Comparing it to my heavily modded KTM 890 Adventure R and would love some input. Any BDR’s in Colorado? I’m looking to get one of the Tiger’s and love this new adventure rally pro version in the matte green
What I like about Steve is that you know from his experience racing a 1200 XE that he actually does know how to handle a big bike off road and really push it to the limit, so his evaluation has credibility.
Cheers and thank youa
You forgot one of the biggest changes from the 800 to 900! Owners don't have to hacksaw their passenger pegs off any more to avoid damaging the frame (even worse) on a crash! Great video dude
I 100% talk about that! But yes so so so true
The sight of walking around without a mask on. So nostalgia
Isn't it
Steve, we gotta get you out on a T7. I’m surprised you didn’t nab a demo ride at Dirt Daze in NH. Are you planning on coming back next year? Be cool as hell to bump into you there!
I'll be there.
Hi Steve, this is so perfect and awesome review. I had few query in mind and you answered them. It has all the stuff I require. Getting really pro in 2022 Feb. Cheers.
Great to see you back again. Thanks for the review - given your history with the 800, your words on the bike carry a great deal more weight than the others. I'm still happy with my '18 Xca which remains the best bike that I've owned or ridden. I'll just continue to *not* ride a new 900 and call well enough alone. Whew, I'm tired.
Good call. Lol.
Steve I would LOVE to see you on Spurge's Highside Lowside podcast, you guys seem to mesh so well together I think you'd be AWESOME on there.
Love the video, made my night! Super psyched for more content.
Yeah one day they might have on. We do mesh really well.
The best review of the Tiger 900 Rally Pro that I have seen
Thanks man
A most excellent review and thanks for the humor...I really needed it. I second the feeling with another commentator dude...flashbacks of no mask/pre-Covid bring a tear to my eye. Keep up the great work!
I have some more good stuff coming soon
Solid review. One thing though, if you ever hear of me carrying 60-100 lbs (or really, over 30) into the woods, call the cops because I'm hiding a corpse!
Man, this guy is good and knows his stuff. Very different from other "uncle" riders reviewing on UA-cam. 🤟
Cheers and thank you
Everyone laughs at me for this but I didn’t mind the old engine and I thought it was pretty hilarious of triumph to stuff it into an adventure bike. Inefficiency is where character and soul is born.
Well said!
Hey Steve! Great job on this review! How about the GT Pro? I agree 100% with your review of the 850 Sport as well. Triumph builds great bikes for all riders! These bikes are all capable, affordable, and are premium. I would purchase another Triumph in a heartbeat.
Great review. Helped me pull the trigger on a Rally Pro! Looking forward to getting it out!
Congratulations and remember to full send!
Really good review. "Hooks up like a Trophy truck", great comment, it sold me !(actually it really did make me think about the traction angle) I reckon Triumph should pay Steve a royalty to use that one!
One day they'll send me check
Fantastic video mate - great review with next level creativity, love what you do
Thank you so much
Top assessment which some of us rely on when considering another dirt tourer.Thanks Steve.JHB-SA.
Any time I can get this done I do. Appreciate the comment and support
Thank you for the support and comment
Good stuff. I just brought a Triumph 900 rally. You are right! It was a piss take not including the offroad pro ride style!
As always, really enjoyable video. I was actually unaware of the rake angle topic. Great to know. These Tigers have always seemed like the best jack of all trades ADV. All of its competitors tend to focus in on being the best in one aspect while the Tiger went for everything. I dig em.
Also, I had an opportunity to sit on a KTM 890R Rally last week and laughed because I was able to do that before I even saw a friggin T7. Never would’ve guessed that would happen. Thanks again for the vids.
Yeah the rake angle is still just too steep. The rear should also have a 18 inch wheel but that's triumph trying to be the best on the street
The steep rake on my ‘18 xCA just makes me do a lot more work in more gnarly stuff. The rake angle is actually a top 3 reason I’m looking at the 890R, others being the brakes (which are pretty terrible), and the top heavy feel.
@@jaronard1 I keep eyeballing the 890Rs but have seen REALLY good deals on some used F850GSs and some leftover Scrambler 1200s (if that’s anyone’s thing). Every bike has their quirks, but I was surprised to see the number of weird leaks and breaks on KTM 790Rs. Even some known you tubers saw issues. My local shop has 890s right now and the temptation is high.
@@inthesupernovashadow amazing, the power of in stock inventory, lol. 790Rs were harder to get than a vaccine dose last couple of years, so didn’t really entertain the idea.
The way to explained or use to explain that's awesome ❤️ love from india
I enjoyed your review, thanks old mate for taking the time.
You need all the subscribers. Such great content. Keep it up man! What do you think about comparing the tiger to the new KTM 890?
Awesome review, I'm stepping away from the HD world a bit at considering the tiger. Torn between the GT pro or Rally Pro. GT fits me better. Plan on some touring and getting back into motocamping. At 62 yrs of age I dont plan on aggressive dirt riding. Have you reviewed the GT and any thoughts on its abilities to handle moderate off road or is it too road biased.
Thanks
I rode the gt at this launch as well. Both bikes will be close to the same in gravel at lower speeds. I rode my tiger 800 roadie everywhere and through everything. Either way you'll be fine so I would say get the bike that fits best
Hello Steve,
Your original upload of this video was a contributing factor to me finally pulling the trigger on this bike and putting down a deposit a couple of weeks back here in the UK. Am I right in thinking you ended up with one of these and if you did are you going to be doing a longer term based review on it? Be great to hear your views on pros/ cons/ mods on this bike.
Thanks.
Thanks and yes I did buy one but it will be used for racing and events on the west coast
this is how reviews should be... and rarely are
So rarely
Great video man. I always enjoy your presentation
Thank you for enjoying my content
Good review , I never been a fan of the tiger , always seemed pointless haveing a triple in an adventure bike , top heavy too . This model seems better
Hi Steve, nice and fun review! I did already see a lot of it at ADV pulse I guess, but this was more fun to see. Good job sharing it!
Question: you were comparing the Tiger 900 with the 800 sometimes, but was it with the old 2011-2014 (gen 1), the 2015-2017 (gen 2) or the latest 2018-2020 model (gen 3), because over the years the 800 transformed quite a lot as in, electronics, riding modes, suspension, braking, shorter first gear, etc.
I recently upgraded from a 2015 gen 2 XCx to a 2018 gen 3 XCa, mostly because it had lesser km/miles and had newer gadgets (heated seats, digital dash, better brakes, etc.). The 900 also was way to expensive for me (with the cases and other accessories), and for my kind of riding which is around 80% road and 20% offroad (quite a newbie in offroad riding) the latest 800 is perfect I guess.
But does a beginner feel the difference between the new 900 and the latest 800? Maybe in a couple of years the 900 is the next one for me. But maybe the GS will win, you'll never know. 😁
Comparisons to older 800s span all 3 gets. You know you have the best 800 but the 900 is only way better in the brake department. Everything else is nominal upgrades for 80% road riding. The 900 is a touch smaller which is nice. The commentary is actually a different take than rge adv pulse video so it is actually different but same
Hi Steve, I'm looking at a new ADV bike in the next month or so. Ive got 3 mates that have T7's and 1 has a 850 GSA so I can extensivly ride those before I test the 2020 Africa Twin.
My questions is, when you're comparing this bike to the Africa Twin, were you referring to old model or the new 2020 model?
Both. The AT is a really well laid out cheater bike. Think 1000 or 1100 motor stuffed in a 800cc package but also detuned, I like the idea of the T7 if your mates have em too. Troubleshooting and parts and tools will all be interchangeable
For a Jersey boy who claims to hate the desert in so many of his videos, you seem to find your way to one of them quite often...welcome to AZ, definitely beats the pine barrens this time of year, and in my opinion, any time of the year. ;)
I know. But not when it's 120 in AZ
@@steve_kamrad5216 I hear you, that is when we head to Prescott and Flagstaff! Great reviews, keep up the good work.
Amazing review! Loved the advpulse article too! That slide crash at the beginning looked rough but the bike seemed unscathed! Any scratches or damage to it? As a Tiger 900 owner would you recommend upper engine/tank guards or are the RP stock guards good enough?
The factory uppers are not recommended by me. The bike was fine after the crash and the stock lower bars are really good!
I got the uppers, bike went down, glad they were on!
Great review! I was considering the 900, but was to inpatient and bought the 1200. I doubt I will take if off road in the fashion you have with the 900 but have done some off road. Mostly gravel roads with the Ms. on the back. I have subcribed and look forward to your next video!
Thank you! Yeah the 1200 is a big different animal but great tourer
Thanks for this video!!! I test drove a 900 also. But you obviously put it through more paces!
Yeah I own one too. So that should speak for itself
Great review 👍
Owner of the Rally Pro got it last June in OZ.
Can't ride off-road same as you but gaining confidence! Want to know if you were in off-road or off-road-pro mode mostly?
Pro
Hey Steve in your experience do the stock handguards hold up decently in a drop? I'm eventually going to upgrade but trying to stay on the cheap side for now and just curious if they're as sturdy as they seem
Not really but just use em till you break em
That’s a lot of info in one burst... good review
After writing the article it was basically a stream of consciousness.
1. How does your channel not have more subscribers than revzilla?
2. The reviews by Spurg at the end 😂😂😂
"This is shit your pants fun, ladies and gentlemen"
I can't put out the volume revzilla does, but I can try
Kamzilla
Great review man you really earned a subscriber today🙂
Keep up the good work.
Cool video, good info. Im based in Seattle and that Magic moments video was great. Quick question; on the regular rally, would you know if pulling the ABS fuse will essentially turn it into off-road-pro mode? According to the manual it should disable ABS and TC completely. I’m hoping to save some cash and put it in my own guards and skid plate. Anyway, thanks for the videos.
I don't know for sure but that or removing the abs ring or sensor should as well
@@steve_kamrad5216 dope, thanks for the reply dude.
Amazing review, thanks a lot - test the new Triumph 1200 that might come in November, PLEASE ! 😁
I hope I get the chance to
A while back you posted a couple of videos of you riding a BMW R1250 GSA on some seriously gnarly terrain. Be great to have a review on the BMW R1250 similar to this one on the Tiger 900.
I've got that in the pipe
Working on it
Excellent detailed review with some fun stuff . Looks like you boys can ride!
I’m new to off road but done a lot of tarmac over the years.
Looking for a bike I can tour on and start some off roading, Morocco, Pyrenees, Wales!
Thinking the 900 Rally Pro fits the bill, any thoughts?
Best adv tourer for the price and features. Ducati multi v4s is super awesome too
@@steve_kamrad5216 that’s great thanks just watching your MS V4 review now 👍
Nice video...i need a suggestion brother , I ride 350cc bike and i am thinking of Rally pro....Is it a good decision to switch from 350cc to 900 or i should go for 600,700series....??Love from India😊
Hi Steve, with the reviews and walk arounds I saw of the new 900 it seems like I noticed a fault which Triumph also made with the gen 1 in 2011. They didn't build in a rear shock protector.
With my 2015 XCx gen 2 en 2018 XCa gen 3 Tiger 800's they were covered as they saw that it wasn't good. They fixed it at the time for the gen 2 en gen 3.
But here again it looks like they left to much space between the mudguard and the swingarm so dirt can hit the rear shock.
With some other guy's 900 I thought it was maybe because it was on the centre stand but with your bike it isn't and I see that the rear shock will be full of mud with the 900. What do you think of that? Fault or not so terrible? 😁
Not an issue
I moved from the Victory Cross Country to a Tiger 900 Rally pro. I'm waiting to get through the factory tires to actually learn to ride off road.
Don’t wait mate. If you haven’t done off road before try and get on a course and get into it even with the standard rubber!
Steve, now that I actually have the bike: triumph in the manual for off-road recommends to bump pre-load on the fork all the way up while decreasing the preload on the rear suspension to the minimum (I haven't tried that yet). From what I infer from that information - they are actually increasing rake angle. Have you tried that? Does that work?
Thanks!
No you got it backwards. Longer and taller front. More stability. Add 60cc of fork oil in each leg too
Yes I believe the 900 is way better than my 2019 800. But I’m never gonna push mine anywhere near her limits. Banging around State Parks is about as harsh as I’m looking to do. BTW you and Spurge are completely NUTS, would love to sit down, drink beers and talk sh!t. Happy Trails and Cheers to a NEW YEAR!!! 👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
We gotta do it! Yeah no reason to upgrade for you
@@steve_kamrad5216 .......reading through the comments, I see you bought a 900, that screams volumes to me. Well Done Steve....👍🏼.......➡️........(900)
@@bradleyalexander5821 yeah I did. It's really dope
This is what I needed right about now. Thank you Steve. Oh also, I test rode this bike. Its awesome. I loved it. And then I saw the MSRP. I'll think about looking for a heavily discounted leftover in February lol.
Thanks man. Also I doubt you'll find a left over. The 2021's are almost all sold
@@steve_kamrad5216 I'm still getting by fine on my Aprilia Caponord Rally until I get my hands on a Tiger. Plus it's always hilarious watching the looks on people's faces when they see me jumping and riding dirt bike trails on a 600 lb bike lol. My favorite bike I've ever owned was my old ktm 950 Super Enduro but the fuel mileage was so bad I always questioned if I'd make it home. Ran out of fuel in the woods several times. I think a tiger 900 would nicely split the difference between my old ktm 950 and my current Aprilia 1200. Either way, I'm gonna try my best to put it through it's paces lol.
New KLR 650, KTM 890, Triumph 900 Rally Pro.. which one is a great bike for Las Vegas desert roads, sand/rocks, and getting to them and my calve muscles have disappeared (in my 60's) and 31 inch inseam so seat height is important as well. It's been years since i owned a bike and am thinking about getting one. I am not up to hard technical stuff. Just want to enjoy the ride and handle some sand and rocks if the trail/road unexpectedly require it. Also good fuel range.
Thanks for the review.
Ktn 790 adv s with the spoked wheels. Plenty capable, good geometry, try both the 790 and 890 for the engine characteristics
They changed the firing order now.. sounds so much betterer!
So I'm curious how you would compare this to the Scrambler 1200 XE in terms of street and off-road chops? Basically which is more fun to ride?
Fun? Scrambler all day. All day use and speed and technology Tiger 900
@@steve_kamrad5216 Thanks for the quick reply. Clearly I'm facing the age old question of fun vs. practicality and you're not making the decision any easier :). Keep up the good work!
Did you implicitly state that experienced riders are more heavy?
Really enjoy your reviews!
hi dear friend. , love your super dynamic analysis! ....comparing the overall which would you pick? the tiger 900 rally pro or the scrambler 1200 xe? in terms of going around the world, which pick? saludos/greetings from Chile
Thanks dude! So if cost was not the driving factor I would go with the tiger 900rp. Much more versatile
What are your sunglasses.
And Good bike review...
Steve
Can you indicate a suspension setup for off road use of my Tiger 900 Rally Pro, with about 25 pounds back luggage? My weight is about 210 pounds, fully equipped
Thanks for any help
The owners manual indicates you're supposed to dial in the suspension in for offroad riding by dialing the front spring preload to max on the forks and dial the spring preload back on the rear which gets the rake to around 27deg. ua-cam.com/video/HimQEfDbnHw/v-deo.html
It won't reach that and be so unbalanced at the same time. Best bet, pull the fork caps down to flush and call race tech for the "kamrad" set up
Very complete review. Good job
Thanks hope it helps
Super cool video Keep up the good work !!
Thank you and will do
This bike or the BMW 850 Adventure? I would say my riding would be ~40/60 off-road/street. My off-road riding isn't anything insane, but the dirt roads I will be riding on can be a little rough/loose/rocky in places. I plan to do some riding in southern Utah (so some sand). Thoughts? I know the BMW is a very capable road machine, but I worry about the weight (should mention I'm a newbie to off-road biking).
Get the tiger, 100% beast on the street. Set the forks on the tiger flush with the triple trees and dial in about 4 millimeters of preload on the rear and the bike handles mud or sand much better than stock also 35 extra cc's of fork in each leg helps a bunch too
Just how capable is the GT going to be off-road? Or maybe the better question is, does the RP give up much to the GT on road?
I've reviewed the gt as well on my page, it's really fun. The rp is the goat and gives up nothing but the gt is priced really well. If you want spoked wheels for offroad then get the rp 100
@@steve_kamrad5216 awesome... thanks so much for the reply! Got a demo scheduled tomorrow. :) :)
For those who are torn between the Tiger 900 RP and the Scrambler 1200 XE.
Since they're almost similar in price, what would be the deciding factor to pick one after the other?
Rad_ness: scrambler better overall bike: tiger 900 rp by far
@@steve_kamrad5216
I see, thanks Steve-sama!
Great video as I am weighing the Rally Pro to the 1250GSA. Preferring the size and the additional off-road capability but I’m also looking for a long distance tourer for heading cross continents and into the wilderness. Sounds like the RP is a real winner
I would go for the rp. It's more fun
thanks buying the Rally Pro next week
Awesome review, very complete and useful information
I did a test ride and couldn't get on with the ergonomics of the chasis/ tank. There was a protection sticking out from the chasis making my legs uncomfortable when trying to hold the bike off road or spirited riding tarmac.
I felt the suspension a bit worst for riding fast than the WP, too plush but much more comfortable for broken terrain.
Yup spot on
I noticed the frame protection rubbing my legs when I test rode the bike also. If I end up buying one, those will have to go. Hopefully they revise that part with next years bike.
How would you compare to the Scrambler 1200 off-road? Imagine the Tiger better on the road and more versatile overall.
Exactly. The scrambler is only slightly easier in tight stuff
Great video. I didn't understand what you were explaining about being able to see the front suspension and being able to pull it though to get an extra 3°. I have a Rally Pro and I love the bike but I do find the front end washes out in sand. Any tips on improving the front suspension for off-road would be very helpful. Thank you.
Turn the preload on the front all the way up. All the way down on the rear. Then pull the fork tube down in the triple trees so that the tops are flush with the triple clamps.
@@steve_kamrad5216 thank you so much for the tips and quick response. If you ever need another Rally Pro to test and you are in the NJ area feel free to hit me up. Have a happy New Year and stay safe.
@@trevorminer3413 I live in Hamilton NJ
@@steve_kamrad5216 nice, I live in Marlton NJ. If you are ever looking to ride with someone or want some help shooting a video let me know. I have some GoPros, Mavic Pro Drone. I am sure you already have everything you need already from watching your high quality videos, but I thought I would put it out there anyways. All that said I am no were near the experience level as your are off road.
@@trevorminer3413 I'll be racing a lot on the dirt bike down in nj. Ecea races
Another great video dude🤙steve.
G’day Steve. Your reviews are awesome! Are you going to do a review on your new Triumph Tiger?? 😀
Thank you! And I might
Hi Steve, for 80% highway and 20%off road is this good? If on highway, is it stable constant at 180-160km ?
100% super awesome on pavement. The best sporty adv bike
Some pretty excellent riding skills there.
Best to trust the reviews of people who can ride.
@@steve_kamrad5216 Starting to think about buying this over the Honda AT AS. I have a reconstructed knee so I need to be able to lift the bike up with 1.25 legs because I can’t put too much pressure on my bad knee. So I want something I can ride 8-12 hours on the road and then find a trail and set up camp or just go for a hour or two out of Nashville to get to some trails and spend a couple hours riding the trails before coming home or maybe camping.
@@ryanmalone2681 just won the Biltwell 100 on mine this weekend. Bike is an absolute monster truck
Awesome review!
Love your reviews mate keep them coming really cool and Love to get me one of them Triumph Tiger 900 one day soon Aussie Aussie ya
Will do. Just did a review for advpulse on the klr 650r. Did a video for them so there's some other content there
Triumph 900 Rally Pro or BMW 850 GS for a fairly new to adventure riding guy? Which one is easier more forgiving to ride?
The BMW is little lower and feels a little lighter but if it was me I go tiger for the motor alone. Also for the price. And the suspension and the brakes
Just out of interest, which rider mode was you using to pull 3rd gear power wheelies? Cheers
Any of em but rain
@@steve_kamrad5216 Cheers
looking to upgrade from a vstrom, between this and the tiger 850 you are helping convince me towards the tiger 900 gt pro , thanks !
If you don't need the gt get a 850!
Can it tour two-up? I mean, not expecting GSA level of confort but would not torture my better half, either. Also powerwise...is it up for the job?
@@atomicgrasshopper4391 100% up to the taska
@@steve_kamrad5216 Thank you, steve!
@@atomicgrasshopper4391 no problem!
Great video bro! 😉👌🏻
@Steve - I saw this review and I liked it. This is a question on a different bike: Harley Davidson has just released the Pan America. If anyone can assess this bike,, you can. Can you ask to review it?
I hope they let me
As a new rider ive been lookin for a adv bike as my first new bike and im real close to getting a tiger 900 rally pro
It's a hard first bike to learn on but just run zero preload on the rear and add 40cc of fork oil in each leg and it will handle much better offroad. On road the 900 rp is the best
Great review! How would you compare it to the scrambler 1200?
Super modern compared to the scrambler
@@steve_kamrad5216 If buying today and had a choice of these two, which one would you get? (I know you ride and race the 1200 XE...)
@@michaelvinogradov8864 I race both. The tiger is such a different bike than the scram but it's much more versatile. I'd suggest tiger
@@steve_kamrad5216 THank you! I'm moving away from Scrambler. Great bike, just not for me.
WOW! This sounds so much better than the 800. Is it less top heavy?
Yes quite noticeable
Hey Steve, if you had an ‘18 XCA would you sell it and buy this?
Only if I could it economically. But also I own a dirt bike I spend a lot of time on. And then just call racetech and get the suspension on the Tiger set up. Go up 2 spring rates in the front no matter what they recommend paired with the rear spring. Or go down on the rear spring a bit. Race tech always over springs the rear. Then you got two weapons. If you are gonna stay strictly adv bike and only ride gravel. Get a 850gt! Best bang for the buck by far
Nice Review, Thanks.I'm considering the GT Pro, but what really puts me off is the really bland colours available. Instead I'm now leaning towards the V-Strom 1050 XT.
2 completely different motos there and paint is cheap.
When are you going to do the bike comparison because all the bikes you just listed are all the bikes I am looking at and nobody really does a review for guys who want an ADV primarily for off road first and yes of course we use them on the street but that's mainly just to get to the trails. The big GS seems to be unlivable for someone that can ride approximately around your skill level in the rough stuff so it looks like this light heavyweight or mid class (whatever anyone wants to call it) is kind of the best option for those of us who are dirt first oriented. Sure some muppet will say just get a KTM and they wouldn't be wrong but this is a second bike to my GasGas EC300I which is for just sending it and racing but which is the bike or bikes for guys who can ride as clearly you can that we can live with picking up in a bad spot (not in a parking lot of Starbucks) can eat long miles with the creature comforts yet get through (ADV) technical stuff and do it well. Thank you for all the great vids, you are awesome!
Thanks man! Unfortunately the manufacturers won't support me like that and that would be a bear of a project. For you. A ktm 890 would be an easy bet but I don't think they're the end all be all. T7 VS tiger 900rp might be you. 10k vs 17k. But the tiger is such a much nicer bike and on the street it's amazing. Can't go wrong really. But I own a tiger 900rp and a scrambler 1200xe.
The BIG question: Is the air filter still in the awful location under the tank?
Nope. Six bolts and it's a cartridge under the seat
great info, thanks.
I want one but my credit rating is shot and I have no money. Back to the trusty 2005 transalp 🙁
06:57 rider on right of frame flips the bird
Yeah that's me
Hey Steve, where did you snag that handlebar bag?
It's a Ducati multistrada unit but it can also be sourced through touratech
will you have a testride the new KTM 1290 Superadventure too?
Most likely no. But I have spent time on the outgoing 1290 and wowzers. Absolute power house but the 1200v4s multi is so good
@@steve_kamrad5216 the new Multi will be good of course but without a 21inch in the front a adventure bike is a no-go!!
the new 1290 Superadventure is for me the best big adventure bike ever,if you get a chance to ride it,DO IT and bring out a great video!!!
Technically it wasn’t a crash..hahah.. never tired of watching your vids..
Rode it to a stop! Lol thanks dude
Hey Guys, whats the name of those off road tires your running? Cheers
Pirelli scorpion
@@steve_kamrad5216 Cheers
I really want the Rally Pro, but I'm Rally Broke right now.
Take a loan.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I’d probably better pay off the other two bikes I have loans on right now.
And maaaaaaaybe tell my gal about the fourth bike in my garage..😬🤭🤫
Wait, is this a re-release?
Actually all original but very similar commentary to the one on advpulse
What would you recomend this tiger 900 or an africa twin ?
The AT 1000 or 1100? What are you going to do with it
@@steve_kamrad5216 1100 with manual transmition evrey day bike
@@federanger tiger 900 rally pro. Too many switches on the Honda and the motor is not as exciting at the tiger 900. If you're going in a lot of sand or deep gravel go AT but as a street bike the Tiger 900 is better for swinging a leg over every day
"underbraked" is the word you were hunting for.
We sure?
@@steve_kamrad5216 In (British) English, yes!