Bronco Raptor Killer? l Chasing Dust
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- The new Ford Bronco and Bronco Raptor come equipped with some of the latest and greatest off-road ready features from any OE manufacturer. But what if you wanted to take your wheeling game up a notch or two than the Raptor can handle? Traditionally, you’d look for piecemeal aftermarket components and dream up a Bronco that can take on any trail. But APG did you one better. They just released their all-new Bronco ProRunner conversion.
While many aftermarket vehicle upfitters are releasing Bronco components and conversions, none are doing it at the scale of APG. Starting out in 2019 with their Ranger ProRunner, APG perfected the art of carbon fiber wide body systems paired with long travel suspension and stronger drivetrains. This approach bled through to the new Ford Bronco, and after three years of development, the Bronco ProRunner is born.
Start your build out with a stock 4-door Ford Bronco. Add a proprietary set of carbon fiber fenders that sit 5 inches wider than stock, throw together a long travel front and rear suspension system complete with King race series IBP coilovers, sprinkle in a Dana 60 rear end and Advantek 44 front differential, beef up the steering, and roll down the street on a set of 40-inch Nitto Trail Grapplers to finish the build.
These are the basics of the Bronco ProRunner by APG. A purpose-built vehicle conversion package meant to tackle the desert and the rocks with poise and ease. Wide, low, big tires, and gobs of suspension travel. It’s any off-roader’s dream Bronco, and it’s here to conquer. APG prides themselves on their in-house design, engineering, and manufacturing, which lends confidence to potential customers looking for “made in the USA” quality Bronco parts.
Matt got a first look at this new build, and in this video, he goes over some of the top-level features of the Bronco ProRunner, as well as some technical details as to why it’s even better than his own Bronco Raptor.
0:00 | Intro
2:06 | 40 inch Nitto Trail Grapplers on a Bronco
2:48 | Bronco Long Travel Suspension
4:43 | Carbon Fiber Bronco Fenders
6:20 | ProRunner Dana 60 and Dana 44
7:12 | Best Steering Upgrade for the Bronco
8:04 | APG ProRunner Bronco Price
8:45 | Outro
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Great video Matt! The ProRunner is so beast, and so is the Raptor. Thanks for sharing!
Still needs a V8
Yeah, I don’t know why Ford hasn’t put a coyote 5.0 in the bronco
I’ve heard that they are going to be making more trim levels for the bronco so we might get raptor r version of the bronco
@@Herrera419it won’t fit with the suspension mounts where they are. An “LS7” would be a way better option, more cubes and way more torque needed for a set of 40s.
Way out of my price range but dang that's freaking gnarly! I'll have to settle for my $28,500 Base sitting on 35" Baja Boss.
4x4?
@@n0xxm3rcyxx All Broncos are 4×4
@@mawage666 hmm. For 28k that sounds really nice. What's the trade off. I was looking at the frontiers and canyons roughly 38k plus for 4x4.
@@n0xxm3rcyxx The top and the doors come off just like a Jeep.
That base will do 99% of the off-road driving that most people will ever experience.
I wish I discovered Prorunner before trading my Wildtrak for a Bronco Raptor!... APG drove by me while filming the Prorunner, for their channel. It was love at first sight! I have been following it ever since! I love it!
I liked the fenders on my Raptor, once I seen it in person! I'm excited to see aftermarket fenders!
I would just throw aftermarket fenders on your raptor and call it a day. Maybe eclick will develop a tune for your shocks in the future. That would beat APG’s pro runner.
@@JR-yt5dq Don't get me wrong!.. I love EVERYTHING about my Bronco Raptor, and VERY happy about the trade! I felt the Wildtrak didn't deliver that promised "Baja" experience, ford claimed. The Bronco Raptor nails it, bone stock! It plows through every obstacle and doesn't break lol. You don't even feel it when you hit obstacle like deep ruts, ditches etc at high speeds that would definitely damage other 4x4s.
I'm excited to see what the future holds, like fenders you mentioned!
Is it me or is the rear tires not center? Looks to site more front and when it compresses it gets really close to the front of the fender.
LOVE that rear bumper!
Love !!!!!!! The fenders!
Wicked, love it👊🏽😎
Well executed build but the price is flat out ridiculous. You can snatch a Braptor nowadays anywhere from a 15-25k mark up and be at 100k. Yeah then theres the tab to Uncle Sam and other misc bs charges but you’ll be OEM, warranty, and all the factory improvements they implemented over the “standard” units.
Facts. It would be better to get a 90’s Bronco and build that into a prerunner. Maybe 50k at the most all in and it would keep up or even smoke this thing
Braptor markup is gone. Those days are bye bye and the bros that paid over MSRP are now underwater.
Wonder with the APG specific design of the front and rear control arms and rear track bar had the limitations of the frame mounting in the design. Seems APG used the Ford factory locations and mounting points. Though one can see the rear lower CAs are longer than stock so the frame mount has obviously been moved, the uppers probably have been lengthened to maintain the pinion angle during suspension cycling (difficult with the inside side saddle fuel tank). The front upper and lower CAs don't look like they have changed at all in the frame mounting location and the design Ford had in the Bronco. So failure could be those mounts as they weren't design for the application of the upgraded APG designed CAs and wheels/tires. Like that of the Ford's design steering rack. Not capable of handling simple upgrades, ie wheels/tires, small lifts putting tie rods in non-operating angles, etc.
APG basically made the upper and lower front CAs heavier and placed the ball joint/knuckle (wheel mounting surface) end farther out from the frame.. APG did state they relocated and designed the front shock mount to work with a longer shock. Nothing was mentioned on the front axle cv shafts as they would have to be longer in length, just that APG optioned on the Advantec D44 front like that of the Raptor and the Advantec D60 for the rear axle. When it comes to describing the shafts of the axle housings in an independent suspended vehicle, rarely is one mentioning the shafts, brakes, etc unless there has been another aftermarket manufacturer upgrade. So with that, if the front housing has been upgraded to a Dana Advantec D44 housing (with its inner shafts), wonder if its overall length is wider than the Raptor so as to use the Raptor CV shafts due to the length working with the APG designed ball joint/knuckle (wms) placement. APG did mention in the video the track width of the rear Advantec D60 axle housing is wider to accommodate the wheels/tires and suspension cycling.
When looking to upgrade and redesign an independent factory axle and suspension, there are plenty of intricacies that have to be accountable to end where the wheel mounting surface (wms) would be placed. Straight axle is easier to do that since its a fixed plane. IS has separated the solid shafts into flexible shafts to allow the independent movement of the knuckle (wheel/tire). IS requires the arcs of components that connects to the knuckle to be on the same arc curve during cycling otherwise there would be binding between the components. Ball joints, steering tie rods, cv shafts, knuckle to CAs, etc.
Those fenders should be stock on the bronco for the price they charge for their broncos.
You are the first I’ve seen to mention anything about price, so forgive my ignorance. Does that 100k include the Bronco? Or are you providing the Bronco and then paying APG for the upfitting? Cheers!
Im wondering the same thing. 100k on top of a new bronco is crazy lol but if people are willing to spend it I cant knock the hustle 😂
The price is for the conversion only. Does not include the base vehicle.
@@desertchief5769 I appreciate the clarification.
You can get a very good build at around $50,000. The body kit, suspension, 37in tires and steering upgrades.
Part it out do the work yourself save 40k
I wish we got these in Europe/UK. Love the mini monster truck!
Unleashing the beast! 🔥
What’s the tires size???
How much do the parts cost
Yeah I was thinking the plus was the fact that it would much less for equal performance potential.
What a unit
Any trim below the raptor gets you -100 less in HP and way less torque. This matters when you’re making your own way in the desert. APG cost doesn’t make sense.
It’s easy to make more power than the Raptor with a 2.7.
There’s a lot of F150 guys making >400hp with it. But I agree, I would just get a Raptor and my Badlands is great anyways.
Are their tie rod and rod ends beefier/stronger than factory??
Yes, by far. They're CNC machined billet tie rod ends with heim joints.
Those APG fenders look incredible. Ford needs to take notes!
A better deal would be a Bronco raptor, with ADV fenders and a shock tune by SDI. This would blow that thing out of the water.
Are these still running?
Is that just a factory spindle on 40s!?
How does this compare to the 392 Jeep Rubicon?
In what way? Performance? Suspension? Capability? Price?
Love THIS 😍💪🏼🔥🙌🏼🎯
Put the street legal fenders on it for most states and you’ve got the same overhang as the Bronco Raptor, Ford could also have made a fender that was illegal in most states as well.
Bronco needs a 5.0 in it. At least the 480 HP 5.0 found in the mach 1. I'd get one if that was an option.
Seems like a "Beast!"...
Them fenders look way better then the bronco raptors
Love it. But not the cost.
Name is khris.can I take my ford bronco to APG for modification?
Now THATS the fenders the Bronco Raptor deserves! Not that stuck on nonsense.
Hey got a challenge, put my 77 ford 4x4 title for title for either of those broncos, I pick the course.
What if I want it to last two generations
How much?
That can make a guy want to drive a Bronco.
Only problem no cajones to pull those 40s, no?
Funny he says they run the small fender flares in CA when it’s illegal for it not to cover the tread.
That is a very nice set of parts too bad that they forgot to add Upgrade to Breaking System to STOP those bigger Tires and Wheels plus the Engine and Transmission in the Bronco and even the Bronco Raptor are not designed to handle the workload of tires like that even with the Upgraded Axels! The Eco-Boost 2.7L was a Joke and the 3.0L jury is still out on how good it is on the bronco. Ford should have put a V8 in the Bronco and that is all that is to say on the subject!
I'm surprised they didn't offer the Coyote conversion with this, there is a company doing those, but as you need an F150 donor to make it work the cost skyrockets... still, if someone wanted the badest Badlands around and they have deep pockets it's possible... if money was no object for me I'd go that route... with a Kenne Bell supercharger sitting on top too 🙂
@@joetuktyyuktuk8635 Ford Performance has a 5.0L Crate Motor available but a new Transmission and probably transfer case would be needed and the ECM would have to be re-program to work with the Bronco's systems but it could be done it just going to cost about 40-50K what a V8 conversion cost for a Jeep Wrangler. This Bronco package is a JOKE putting those BIG Tires even with the new axles without SERIOUSLY UPGRADING the Breaking SYSTEM is Dangerous. Most people usually do not think about Breaks when they upgrade their Jeep or in this case Bronco but putting that much MASS without putting some MASSIVE Rotors and at least 4 or 6 piston Brembo brakes is SERIOUSLY STUPID! I personally think that the New Bronco is a JOKE and Ford is having the SAME ISSUES with the Bronco that they did when the Mustang got the facelift and the New Engine and transmission was introduced back in 2015-16 where cars were having to be purchased back by Ford because they were SUPER LEMONS and the Bronco will probably go thru the same thing.
The 2.7 is not a joke. I owned one for five years and it had exceptional power. Your points about braking are spot on, I would not want to add that much weight to the vehicle without improved braking performance.
Does it have a v8 though
So buy a side by side or f150 raptor & save tons of $$$ lol they certainly bad ass tho
When they do a 5.0 coyote and that ill give them a call. Till then Raptor Bronco all the way 😮
I just want the body kit. My Raptor is a mall crawler
I will definitely be the coolest dad in my children’s schools with this rig!! But would have to drive my soccer dad 12 year old minivan to work so that my boss wouldn’t question if I were being paid to much…..😂😂😂😂😂
Ford needs a Bronco Raptor R based on this build...
All you need is the Hennessy upgrade with the apg then it would be the king of all broncos.
The front end kept bottoming out lol
With all the extra weight NO GO. Ive had many modifeied jeeps etc. I also have the bronco raptor right now. Bigger engine in the bronco raptor. Its a NO GO . Get the bronco raptor
What is better Jeep or Bronco?
What I really want is a Solid Axle bronco…
Why ? Compared ton an APG designed the front suspension a straight axle seems real antiquated.
Looks sweet. What I do NOT like about the Bronco Raptor is the fenders, they look like an afterthought and they added on at last minute, (they just dont blend well into the body of the truck) the APG integrates the fenders and looks ALOT BETTER
🤤
Nice ride but your timing kinda sucks. At a time when there are zero new vehicles on lots near me. All trucks are STUPID high right now, it just doesn't make any sense. I really dig that APG Bronco, it gives me vibes closer to the older ones than many I see on the road. I do prefer those 40" tires too.
Half the people that buy this are going to drive 5 mph on a gravel road.
Don’t be jealous you can’t get one
Way more than half of them
9 out of 10 easy.
@@scottellis1292 How is stating a fact make someone jealous? If anything, the estimate of 1/2 of people using only to drive their kids to school is way to low. 9/10 people never use them for anything off-road. Sounds like you are the type that gets sucks into buying things you don't need because companies are able to emotionally manipulate you into buying expensive items that you have no need for. I hope your boyfriend is cool with that.
Yup. Not sure why he even brought up “afford”. All these clowns have the banks buy the vehicle then they pay slave payments.
What? Toyota's brought the two-door Land cruiser back to America equipped with a V8 and triple lockers?
What no Coyote engine too?
Bronco’s reliability has not lived up to the hype!
Oh yeah, what happened?
Yes it has.
is that why it's a killer raptor OJ
Does the price include the Bronco lol
Better than the bronco? You must be talking about Subaru. (Honestly it's not a hard bar to reach. Hope you brought tierod arms)
100k + 50-60'ish for stock and still be stuck with a 4-6 cylinder? No Thanks! For 80k I can get a 470HP 392Rubicon, then call up King coil overs (6k for 3.0's paired F+B )& ultimate 60's by DynaTrac (13k paired F+B) then have my local 4x4 install for 8k. (107k total and no comparison)
Oh my...such a bleak comment deserves my response. You're horribly underestimating the pricing here. Allow me to explain:
-You can't just slap coilovers on a JL, you need a coilover conversion kit
-You forgot about a long arm suspension system
-You forgot about hydro-assist steering
-You forgot about 40" tires
-You forgot about beadlock wheels (real ones)
-You forgot about driveshafts
-You forgot about an HD spare carrier than can handle the weight of a 40
-You forgot about tuning the ECU for new gears/locker
-You forgot that the 392 does not have a selectable transfer case, only an all-time AWD system
-You forgot about the fact that installing even JUST the items you described at a standard shop rate of $125/hr would cost over $10,000
And lastly, you forgot that the ONLY thing a Jeep built to that spec would do better than this is a drag race or black diamond crawling trails like you'd find at The Hammers. So if that's the only kind of wheeling you want to do, then go buy the 392. For everyone else who wants one vehicle to do it all, there's this Bronco.
Love APG. But, yeah another one percenter vehicle.
I’d rather take the bronco raptor x100
If I had a small male organ, I would definitely buy one of these.
Lol!
250.000$ wow to much
Why would I buy a Raptor? I can just head on over to APG for a much better Bronco!
I know people who does this to their 4x4 and never go off road, lol.
I just went to your website and bought the front, back, fenders hood cowl and im currently at $59,000 and i havent even paid for install yet. 😂 so lets assume another $15,000 install. Basically your saying buy a $60,000 Bronco and then throw another $75,000 for a grand total of $135,000 and you can finally have 2 more inches of travel over a stock Bronco Raptor that will cost you $85,000 🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂 make sense.
only if i win the lottery.
Unpopular opinion: Most people with hater comments can't even swing a Bronco Sport, much less a Raptor or ProRunner.
Also, "99% of statistics on the internet are made up" - Thomas Jefferson, probably.
I will stick with my 2-wheel drive 2004 Toyota 4-runner since it capable of doing everything that 99% of the people that will buy something like this would need.
😂 what is that a $200k bronco?? Better be good.
I have heard so many complaints about this Bronco ,many people end up taking it back to the dealer because it is a pile of junk !
😂 that's really pretty funny. There are fifteen people in my town, that started a Bronco club and they all love them. They are super cool. Something that will be worth hanging on too.
@@kimberlydodder8198 Tell that to a guy in my area who had so much trouble with his he turned it in and got a small pickup.
Lemon Law.
That travel is definetly not long travel that gap between the fenders and the wheels is still not much they need to look at real baja trucks
"Real Baja Trucks" lol....tell me you know nothing about performance suspension without telling me. Ideal ride height setup should be 50/50 up and down travel. This Bronco sits perfectly at 50/50. 8" up, 8" down. APG engineered their fenders to allow a 40" tire to go full bump to full extension, and they can even go full lock steering at full bump on a 37" tire. Thanks for trying though.
They should “INCLUDE” the steering rack and tie rods , not make it a pay more option.. what they gonna send one out on 40’s with the stock steering rack pff ridiculous..
Way too pretty to take off road!
Well I don't live in or around a desert. I don't need to travel at high rate of speed in the wide open. The Raptor is already way over priced and really made for people that have a alot of money and dont mind opening a window and tossing it out at the raptor. Then, there saying if you go with APG again your expected to toss a whole lot of money again at your already paid vehicle bronco. Why do they think the every day person is going to toss the 100k at the bronco? I'll look at it and it is cool. I will not be throwing all that money at one vehicle unless I win the lottery
Just remember Lemon Law people if you buy these and will anyone buy them used.
Got $200k you want to set 🔥🔥🔥 to???
Needs a solid axle & V8
Let me suggest a "Ford Bronco" even tho you can't even find one anywhere.... without over paying 10k-18k
less travel than my ebike
V8 swap too
Don't forget your gonna pay 100k +. Put hell its just your money
Don’t worry it will only set you back $120k
That poor 2.7l ecoboost 🤣
And when that POS breaks out in the desert my gen 1 raptor will be towing you out effortlessly……
People please stop paying ridiculous amount for these vehicles. They should not be more then 40k max.
90% of people will never afford either 🤪
Over $100K 😂😂😂😂😂
Paid to do this vid....
I have never been paid by any company or product I feature on this channel. I come up with the topics myself, and offer my own real opinions on them. That’s one of the main reasons I enjoy making these videos.
Jeep trader
Jeeps suck ass dude, as a Jeep owner with 150k into mine, I can confirm Jeeps are dogshit, no way around it lol.
I will pass on it, as for 99,9% others car users it is only to be cool stuff.
Junk. Needs the Raptor R V8
Kudos to the rich 😂 or living with a mountain of debt more realistically.
change the name everytime I here bronco I think of OJ you probably was a baby then bla bla bla OJ
Yes for 80k we can all have a real bronco.. thanks ford for destroying a icon after 20 years.
A pieces of Junk, so many recall and fail on the road
I'd put a Jeep up against it any day