@@AlwaysDazed Yeah I could sense my best friend of 30 years had something he wanted to say the other day with just his passing me at work. I was busy not looking at him but I could feel like he wanted to say something to me all day. It was bad family news. Well good for some, bad for others....
It wasn't a spin. It was about money. It's always about money. Even a little loss of respect in that environment is DANGEROUS. Sil was right, Vito had to go.
Exactly why Silvio is the perfect No 2. Doesn't include his personal opinion on the gay matter but the repercussions of it within the family. Logical way of looking at it, love his character. And Tony. And the whole show. Golden.
@Daniel Miller His loyalty towards the Family is unquestionable as well, because he and Tony were close friends since childhood. The best characteristic of Silvio is that he is discreet and quiet.
Same situation in the Godfather. There wouldn't be no trilogy, if Sonny had keep his mouth shut. Tony has real contretemps here. Vito is top earner, but keeping him alive would cause mutiny among the ranks.
Same with Silvio. Doesn't care that Vito's gay, but he does care about how everyone else's homophobia could shatter the entire family if Vito gets to live.
@@joevines3428 Tony ordered hits on junoir,Richie,sacks,Vito,Jackie Jr and personally killed tony b and Ralph. I think he's pretty used to killing friends.
Silvio was always a smart guy. He knows Tony's number one reason for keeping Vito on the crew is that he is his best earner. Getting rid of Vito is like taking a big paycut. But Silvio points out to Tony that not addressing the Vito problem could hurt him in his wallet as well. Exactly the argument that would make Tony reconsider.
Also it’s the fact multiple capos said point blank it’s against mafia rules he needs to die. Tony can’t decide something none of them support. Then there is Phil
Tonys constant struggle with the guy he is, and the guy he knows he could have been are always paramount on his face. In this scene especially. Bravo to james. RIP
@@cavemanzach9475 Agreed, Tony was destined and forced to enter the criminal world because of his father and family, but regardless of that, he IS free to leave the Mafia at any time he so desires. but despite this, everytime he's given a chance to do so, he deludes himself into thinking that he can't leave because he took an oath. That is a choice and delusion that ultimately lead him to his demise.
no career actor either I think he was former NYC detective - my fav Carlo line “ catching…..not pitching…” then tosses the cards 🃏 on the table in disgust
Carlo: "A sin." As opposed to lying, cheating, stealing and killing? The cast and crew did an excellent job in highlighting hypocrisy with the characters on the show.
Greatest show in television history hands down. Everything that came after was made possible by David Chase and the vision he had and brought to life with his wonderful cast of characters.
Arthur Nascarella is a LEGEND. Big fan of this guy. He plays Carlo. A lot of people don't know that he was a NYC Cop for 21 years. He's just as natural as a Cop as he is a Gangster. And if you know the movie Heat...There's a thin line between the two.
@@2ez4micko No, he wasn't. I was just referring to Heat because in that movie, there's a thin line between Al Pacino and Robert De Niro's characters. The best detectives are a lot like the criminals they go after. They just happen to serve the public instead of prey on it.
True story: cop are gangsters. The only difference is the percentage of their earnings/wages that comes from the government varies from state to state. In some states gangsters get more obviously.
Amazing how few of the comments talk about Tony's line, "Carlo, let's be honest with ourselves here. We all know Vito's not the first." Not to mention Carlo's reaction.
The direction, camerawork and framing starting @ 2:55 is so subtle and purposeful, it's beautiful storytelling. Almost 20 seconds of zoom and pan to cross a distance of a few feet brings us into Tony's literal headspace @ 3:12. It's such a tight closeup that Mr. Gandolfini has to move the magazine out of the way of the camera in order for the shot to be achieved, successfully framing Silvio (Tony's literal adviser) so that he evokes the old image of the metaphorical angel/devil on the shoulder. Is Silvio playing the role of angel or devil in this instance? Just to hammer it all home, the exchange beginning @ 3:20 is one regarding a matter of ethics/morals/values, i.e. a matter of conscience. It's such damn good filmmaking.
Hate to be "that" guy but when a camera pushes in on a subject the proper term is "dollying in". The term "Zooming in" is used when the camera lens's focal length is adjusted to close in on a subject. :p
Masterful quiet pause…..as camera closes in on “Tony’s” face….with “Sil” slightly out of focus over his right shoulder. I swear, I could almost “hear” Gandofini’s character’s thoughts…..staring at “The Robb Report”, but not reading or even seeing the magazine. Just flipping pages while deep in thought. Pure mastery in the art of filmmaking…both by the actors and the director. And it is just moments like this, that made “The Soprano’s” so special!
2:55 one of the best scenes in the entire show From Tony’s face, his heavy breathing, “it’s 2006, there’s pillowbiters in the special forces” Silvio not saying anything until Tony’s irritated “what” Silvios reasoning. Tony slowly realizing the facts that Sil is right Cinematic gold
All Sil ever cared about was Tony and keeping a cool head involved in the conversation. About as stand up of a guy as youre gonna find in the mafia. Loyal to the end.
@@grandexporter No...............he wouldn't strangle his own mother........................and your analogy is pretty bad. Sil did strangle Bert Gervasi, but he would never do such a thing to a woman let alone his mother. He prefers being the perfect consigliere and being a cosa nostra heavyweight without having the title of boss.
"There's pillow biters in the special forces" I love that line right there. It's Tony acknowledging that just because somebody is gay does not mean that they're weak or not a badass
My only problem with the storyline, was that Vito genuinely was the weakest least badass of the group. Would have been more impactful if it was one of the stronger characters.
Tony is not acknowledging that, he’s a racist homophobic hypocritical piece of New Jersey trash. He is using that as an excuse because Vito bring him in so much money and doesn’t want that to go away
This scene alone shows how unreasonable and hypocritcal the mafia is .Honestly it wasn't a big deal that Vito was gay. Who cares. The messed up thing is he wasn't honest with his wife. Vito didn't rat or betray them and he made them all rich and they turn their backs on him over some stupid tough guy act. Tony at least understood he brought them in money. I still think the "Its a sin" line is the funniest line in the entire show. These guys rob, murder and hurt people all the time and thats fine but being gay is crossing the line and immoral for them apparently.
Yeah, but you probably watch enough mafia movies to know that homosexuality in the mob is punishable by death. It's fucked up and outdated as shit, but so is the mafia. Technically, Phil had legitimate beef with Tony for not giving him up
I swear I actually loved Carlos character, he’s a typical “Lieutenant” Moves like a soldier, talks like a captain with the age of a general. Notice how he doesn’t put his own emotions in the matter, he only voices concern around the crews morals and thoughts. Paulie being out after Vitos scalp And the crew viewing Vitos actions as a sin. Still, when Tony argues that Vito was a top earner Carlos knows the boss’s words are final and makes his thanks and excuses himself. That’s how real OGs move (P.S English is not my native language, more like second so there may be some gaps in my grammar. If so, please correct me but be nice about as I’m still learning🙏)
@@Blue13GBG12 many people that speak English nativity still make many mistakes. English is also my second language. I hadn't noticed any mistakes in your post. And I'll be dammed if I'll read comments to pick on someone just because they made a mistake in their non-native language. You are doing great.
"Its 2006; there's pillow biters in the special forces" Tony Soprano is an insecure, angry, pyscopathic, horrible character but by this point in the show (after getting shot by uncle jun) you can see he is already changing how he looks at things and being more mindful and considerate. The character development on this show was excellent and seeing tony go from a guy who had knee-jerk reactions of anger and aggression, to a guy who did more thinking and contemplating than before was so satisfying. Part of him didnt want to lose Vito because he really didnt care that Vito was gay and moreso because Vito was a high earner but he knew that he'd begin to lose the other men in the crew and good money if he kept Vito around.
I agree. You hit the nail on the head. Tony would have kept Vito. He was indifferent. Tony only cared about the money. He didn't care where it came from as long as he received it every week. He would have turned the other way altogether if it wasn't for other men like Carlo with their homophobia.
@WKD Salty that’s what a simple mind would only see but again, by this point in the show, Tony was changing a little bit. He had parts of him indeed being more understanding and more empathetic (not a lot but a little more than before)
The more you watch these scenes from the Sopranos, the more you realise the fantastic writing, acting and character development (I can't abide pretentious jargon - but jees, the depth of the characters and the way you see them evolve over the seasons is immense). The way the writers depict the gangsters' hypocrisy is unmatched... I can't believe the real mobsters didn't see it !
Some people still dont see the hypocrasy or straight up just ignore it. The writers did such an excellent job of showing the hypocrosy in Tony, Carmela, Meadow, Paulie, and Chris that you'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb to miss it, as it was most of the time the main point of certain scenes.
They did see it. Members of the Cavalcante Family are the upon which the Sopranos was vaguely based, were quoted on wiretap saying, "you seen this thing, The Sopranos ? Is this about us ?" They even said it was entertaining. Words to that effect.
There were pluses and minuses to now and then. Certain fashions were more desirable then, as opposed to the butt ugly bearded 4-eyed, tattooed manbunns we have now. And if not, then not far from that
I like this scene cause Tony love the money Vito was bringing. But the wolves in his team wouldnt allow a man that blows another man acess to the earnings.
It wasn't only that. Tony also had to show that *HE* makes the decision on Vito, nobody else. So yeah you're dead on that as the Boss he also definitely needed to factor the money part. Because well, why the hell are they doing this? But he also needed to let his Family know that whether Vito lives or dies it was because he said so, not them. In Tony's mind it was a power play. Then you have Silvio, as a great Consigliere, showing Tony the bigger picture. Yes he's the Boss, so what happens to Vito is his decision. But the same order of things he's trying to protect by affirming his power. He would lose if he didn't do what they wanted. So in the end Tony really had no options about what to with Vito. Especially with the outside actions of Leotardo.
@@Lord_Bibulous I like your commentary on this scene. I have a question for you. Is Phil’s intervention in this, by killing Vito, a small win for Tony because he didn’t have to make the decision, or is it one of his big losses and contributing factors to the fate of his family in the last part of season six? I always felt like this moment led to his men losing more confidence in him as a leader and to keep them safe so ratting became an easy way out.
@@NPCSingularity It was a big loss for Tony's influence. Leotardo finding and killing Vito showed that he could do what Tony couldn't. It also showed that like you said any one of Tony's guys could be got. It was also Phil's payback for Tony not handing over Tony B.
He would've let Vito lives and do whatever he likes in Atlanta city had the NY people didn't know that Vito liked to play in the dirt. Tony might've disapproved of Vito's existence but he's still a business-minded guy and as long as Vito is making banks he would let it slide. But apparently getting on good the good side of Phil Leotardo worth more than whatever number Vito is pulling so he had to let throw Vito under the bus.
They have a problem with the morals and principles and Tony says “ I don’t know if I’d have the boat without him” that says a lot Edit: and then sil saying people Will withhold serious money being a factor in Tony’s decision shows it’s all about the dollars and cents to him
Just like Carmine said to Johnny Sack when he wanted to whack Ralphie for calling his wife fat. Yes it's about the money, they aren't in a criminal organization for the charity.
@@kristinalfc5846 Porbably they're in the mafia to preserve some Italian heritage and educate people about Italian culture? Not everyone does it for the money.
Gandolfini was the kind of old- school, multi-layered complex actor that made me fall in love with movies. He reflected the intensity of the mystery of the human condition as it truly is. Not like modern day, one-note actors who have destroyed cinema and film as art. Look at the last shot and the way the director can just leave him in focus as he processes this complex topic and never says a word... RIP.
love the cunning of silvio here.he knows tony so the more anyone objects about vito the more he will stick his heels in just to prove hes boss so he doesnt mention the rights and wrongs.he knows how to manipilate tony so he picks up the fact it may hurt tonys pocket rather than any other reason.
Well he is right in this case, and he knows what angle could make Tony see, financial one. Also, all the big bosses were sensitive about earning, it's the fucking thing they are doing.
2:24 Tony really putting his cards on the table. He knows that Carlo and Vito were homosexual partners. Carlo gets very upset when Finn gives his testimony ("Catchin'? Not pitchin'?). Carlo was the biggest advocate to clip Vito before the facts were settled. Why? It was Carlo who set Vito up at the gay bar where he knew Sal made collections. ("I know him. He's a friend of ours"). Carlo wanted to take over Vito's construction business which he accomplishes in this scene. Tony wants to spare Vito because of his profitability. He can make money on the side without New York finding out. Tony reads that Carlo has already consulted with Sil to further push the sentiment to clip Vito and finally connects the dots. The last piece of the puzzle is for Carlo to have Vito clipped in order to solidify his position and destroy all evidence of his own homosexuality. That's why Tony says what he says: "We all know Vito's not the first". He acknowledges the entire setup and turns the threat on Carlo. The Sopranos was truly a masterclass of writing and storytelling.
Dude what? That is completely absurd, Tony was referencing how in the real American mafia, there have even outed made men. What evidence is there to show carlo was gay
@@throwawaymcjoe1387 Maybe your parents can explain it to you when you're older. In the meantime, go play with your toys or study the show for yourself. I've conducted film analysis on this show for over a decade so forgive me for laughing at your simpleton theory of "Tony is talking about the mafia and that explains everything." Also, name ONE made guy in the American mob who was outed and didn't get clipped.
Carlo's line that "Some people feel its against our principles" really needs to become the next running Sopranos joke in the comment threads, especially given how developed the show's theme of all the major characters being massive hypocrites was.
"He's a come from behind kinda guy."😂
The writing on this show is phenomenal.
I love that they resisted having the actors react to that remark, They just let it lay there.
silvio’s face was priceless
@@NGJ05 His expression is always the same though.
Sil was like: 😕😑🥴😐☹️
@@nealcomstock1958 it sounded like he scoffed a little.
I love how Carlo says: "It's a sin" ... meanwhile: their entire world revolves around gluttony, greed, adultery, murder ... etc.
And shineboxes
That's the point
Who did Tony speak of "we all know he is not the first"?
They’re soilders, soilders don’t go to hell
But they all agree to the rules. Being gay is not part of the rules.
“I don’t know if I’d have the new boat without him!” Tony really knew how to motivate people to work harder.
"That's a nice boat, boss!" "Thanks, wagey, if you keep up your good work, I'll get myself an even bigger one"
@@I34VVI3U5 from what they say, mobsters give boss 4% so not that real wagey lol
@@jupnik5318 4? 10%
@@jupnik5318 it's 10% and sometimes 20% depending on the score
This things a pyramid, since time immemorial. Shit runs down hill, money goes up. It's that simple
Everyone is talking about Silvio but Tony knows Silvio so well that he could sense the discomfort without even looking at him.
I liked that part too, that's something only true brothers can sense with each other. " I can feel your silence what the fuck is the problem"
@@AlwaysDazed Yeah I could sense my best friend of 30 years had something he wanted to say the other day with just his passing me at work. I was busy not looking at him but I could feel like he wanted to say something to me all day. It was bad family news. Well good for some, bad for others....
Best married couple on TV
Exactly what I was going to comment. Silvio wants to state his case but he has to wait for Tony to engage first because that is his place. The no.2
@@derrickdiaz3419 Yup. Sil read The Primce.
come from behind kind of guy.
you're very smart. that was very allegorical, the sacred and the propane
something something... shinebox
That's true
More like a ‘take it from behind’ kind of guy.
“ He loves coming from behind”
“There’s pillow biters in the special forces.” One of the funnier lines in the series.
Not as funny as “Would I shit you? You’re my favourite turd!”
The "WHAT" that preceded it is even funnier!!
I think you mean "speshel forshes"
"pillow biter" that is a good one.
That line is right up there with “cunnilingus and psychotherapy brought us to this!”
The way Sil spins it in the end to make it about money when he's reasoning with Tony is fucking smart.
I love Silvio
spot on.
Charles Schwab ova here!
It wasn't a spin. It was about money. It's always about money. Even a little loss of respect in that environment is DANGEROUS. Sil was right, Vito had to go.
It isn't spin.
That is just cutting to the heart of the matter.
Exactly why Silvio is the perfect No 2. Doesn't include his personal opinion on the gay matter but the repercussions of it within the family. Logical way of looking at it, love his character. And Tony. And the whole show. Golden.
@Daniel Miller His loyalty towards the Family is unquestionable as well, because he and Tony were close friends since childhood.
The best characteristic of Silvio is that he is discreet and quiet.
Silvio would have been great in any position, including No 1. The guy always knew what had to be done.
Van Zandt what a a discovery of an actor!!!
He also mentioned that it will affect Tony negatively financially. Very smart, he knew that it is all that Tony cares about.
@@MrCoconut212 He's a come from behind kind of guy.
Silvio is what every successful person needs in their corner.
A ruthless sociopath and a murderer who's involved in human trafficking and extortion to boot?
@@tommydowning3481 a real nigga
@@tommydowning3481 yes
@@elgrandofahadio9269 Please. Tell the people around you that these are your morals. They’ll love it 👍
@@Breakingbad33 I think he just means someone who will be honest with you and has your best interests in mind. Perhaps. Idk.
Even though Silvio disagrees with Tony's stance on Vito not getting whacked, he shows a unified front by agreeing with Tony in front of Carlo.
Same situation in the Godfather. There wouldn't be no trilogy, if Sonny had keep his mouth shut.
Tony has real contretemps here. Vito is top earner, but keeping him alive would cause mutiny among the ranks.
You mean disentery among the ranks?
@@dfhidfs239 no because then everyone would just be shitting themselves, what he meant was dissent
Great consigliere
Right. It wouldn’t look good if the guys saw them both disagreed with each other.
When you realize tony isn't defending vito but the money vito is making him.
Same with Silvio. Doesn't care that Vito's gay, but he does care about how everyone else's homophobia could shatter the entire family if Vito gets to live.
Yeah but I'm sure its not easy to kill a friend over something that should not matter.
@@joevines3428 Tony ordered hits on junoir,Richie,sacks,Vito,Jackie Jr and personally killed tony b and Ralph. I think he's pretty used to killing friends.
@@rasheedqe don't forget big puss
@@disturbed157 yeah tony killed or took advantage of everyone he knew in someway.
Silvio was always a smart guy. He knows Tony's number one reason for keeping Vito on the crew is that he is his best earner. Getting rid of Vito is like taking a big paycut. But Silvio points out to Tony that not addressing the Vito problem could hurt him in his wallet as well. Exactly the argument that would make Tony reconsider.
He could have started up in Atlantic City.
@@Aivottaja Then Gene could have gone to Florida too. Can't have it, any of it.
Could've sent him to a San Francisco or Atlanta. Put Vito "in his element," and see another place of business opportunity!
Also it’s the fact multiple capos said point blank it’s against mafia rules he needs to die. Tony can’t decide something none of them support. Then there is Phil
Grim Fandango and Sopranos crossover.
Love how Tony doesn’t even have to look back to notice Silvio thinking.
"What? 😒"
"He's a come from behind kinda guy," said with a straight face. These writers sense of humor is priceless.
Tonys constant struggle with the guy he is, and the guy he knows he could have been are always paramount on his face. In this scene especially. Bravo to james. RIP
I think this dichotamy with a mixture of fate versus free will is pretty central to all the major characters of the show
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
@@cavemanzach9475 Agreed, Tony was destined and forced to enter the criminal world because of his father and family, but regardless of that, he IS free to leave the Mafia at any time he so desires. but despite this, everytime he's given a chance to do so, he deludes himself into thinking that he can't leave because he took an oath. That is a choice and delusion that ultimately lead him to his demise.
Excellent comment.
Great assessment
I always loved Carlos' excitement at :25 seconds. It always cracked me up how genuine and real it seemed. Lol
Great acting. 👍🏼
A real “finally got my dream job” moment
no career actor either I think he was former NYC detective - my fav Carlo line “ catching…..not pitching…” then tosses the cards 🃏 on the table in disgust
Another reason why Sil was a great right hand man
The best
@@mikerzisu9508 some people are better at being number twos
@@kemperboyd1209 number two quietly directs everything, without needing to be in the top chair.
@@paolocoletti1574 exactly
At times He's kinda like a voice of reason
Sil and Tony have a better relationship than tone and his wife
Sil was Tony real wife lol
Tone 🤣
@@Red-Hood Melfi was Tony's real wife
@@fascinatinglist9654 lol yeah I was just continuing the joke
Tony has a better relationship with anyone, and even some things like his fridge, than with his wife.
- He's a come-from-behind kind of guy.
- That's true.
Yes, I know. He's catching type of guy, not pitching.
it's the bp medication
the writing never disappoints.
thats true. Butt
Vito is now "take-me-greek" kindaguy
3:00 Love the camera angle when Sil is advising Tony.
Yeah it really shows that he has his ear. Its great.
“........what.”
@@vincentm.andreassi186 "pillow-biters' in the Special Forces".
A sort of devil on the shoulder look to it.
Carlo: "A sin." As opposed to lying, cheating, stealing and killing? The cast and crew did an excellent job in highlighting hypocrisy with the characters on the show.
Cmon, they're soldjas!
Scrolled down to see if someone else already said anything about the ''Sin'' line...
I thought of that too, but in their minds they are soldiers and are doing zero wrong
No different than the political arena of US Govt.
Actually, I take that back it's very different.
There's a level of respect Wise Guys follow.
some could argue that having homosexual sex is worse than any of the things you mentioned..
Greatest tv show cast of all time, flawlessly acted. Gandolfini was phenomenal.
Greatest show in television history hands down. Everything that came after was made possible by David Chase and the vision he had and brought to life with his wonderful cast of characters.
There’s not even a close 2nd. It gets better with age.
@@SixStringSicario I love the Sopranos but it itself is a very distant second to The Wire.
@@BlastbeatsLOL agreed. The Wire is amazing, such acting!!
I've gotta go with Gilligan's Island.
The 10-15 seconds of the camera zooming in on Tony, and he can feel Sil wanting to speak up... just so goddamn good.
1:44 the look on Silvio’s face when Tony says “come from behind kinda guy” 🤣🤣🤣
Silvios face when Tony says "he's a come from behind guy" always gets me
That laugh Carlo gave when he got upped was one of the most genuine looking expression of happiness or joy i've seen in any media.
Arthur Nascarella is a LEGEND. Big fan of this guy. He plays Carlo. A lot of people don't know that he was a NYC Cop for 21 years. He's just as natural as a Cop as he is a Gangster. And if you know the movie Heat...There's a thin line between the two.
Wait, he's in Heat too?
@@2ez4micko No, he wasn't. I was just referring to Heat because in that movie, there's a thin line between Al Pacino and Robert De Niro's characters. The best detectives are a lot like the criminals they go after. They just happen to serve the public instead of prey on it.
Knock around guys
True story: cop are gangsters. The only difference is the percentage of their earnings/wages that comes from the government varies from state to state. In some states gangsters get more obviously.
His name is NASCAR...
Amazing how few of the comments talk about Tony's line, "Carlo, let's be honest with ourselves here. We all know Vito's not the first." Not to mention Carlo's reaction.
Twenty years in the can...he commpromized)))
@@TonyPaletto "you get a pass for that "
This is the 2nd time someone insinuated homosexual behaviour in conversation with Carlo.
Maybe Fat Dom wasn't just talking shit ?
@@waseem7195 exactly, which is why he reacted the way he did and murdered fat dom, he did'nt want to suffer the same fate as Vito
Wasn't that a reference to Vito Arena?
For those who don't know, he was an associate of the Gambino crime family who was gay.
its nice to have someone like sil... he is the best
Juan Pablo Restrepo he was my favorite crew member
Low keyed but wise
"If Vito comes back, are you gonna kiss him on both sides of the cheek?" HAHAHA!!!
lol
OOOOOggggaaahhhhhh!!!!!!
I really do love Tony . At the end of the day he has a big heart . " It's 2006 , there are pillow biters in the special forces" lol 🤣
He’s a fanoik
what's really impressive here is how Carlo managed it to keep out of the way of T's anger. quite smart.
There's pillow bitters in dah speshow fowses 🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂
Bruh lmaooo how u spelled it out like that lmfao!!!
*laughs in navy seal*
@N0 One454 Piwow bitaaaaaas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What did Tony say?
The direction, camerawork and framing starting @ 2:55 is so subtle and purposeful, it's beautiful storytelling. Almost 20 seconds of zoom and pan to cross a distance of a few feet brings us into Tony's literal headspace @ 3:12. It's such a tight closeup that Mr. Gandolfini has to move the magazine out of the way of the camera in order for the shot to be achieved, successfully framing Silvio (Tony's literal adviser) so that he evokes the old image of the metaphorical angel/devil on the shoulder. Is Silvio playing the role of angel or devil in this instance? Just to hammer it all home, the exchange beginning @ 3:20 is one regarding a matter of ethics/morals/values, i.e. a matter of conscience. It's such damn good filmmaking.
Hate to be "that" guy but when a camera pushes in on a subject the proper term is "dollying in". The term "Zooming in" is used when the camera lens's focal length is adjusted to close in on a subject. :p
@@Pulang_Diwa dude whatever
Thanks for that analysis.
fuckin' imdb ova here
Good now go get your shinebox
Masterful quiet pause…..as camera closes in on “Tony’s” face….with “Sil” slightly out of focus over his right shoulder. I swear, I could almost “hear” Gandofini’s character’s thoughts…..staring at “The Robb Report”, but not reading or even seeing the magazine. Just flipping pages while deep in thought. Pure mastery in the art of filmmaking…both by the actors and the director. And it is just moments like this, that made “The Soprano’s” so special!
I'm surprised that Van Zandt was never nominated for an Emmy or Golden globe? He did such a great job as Sylvio.
He was just as good here as he is playing guitar in Bruce Springsteen's band
Never really had big dramatic scenes and storylines, was always just there.
Silvio's grumpy face in 3:44. All time classic
🤣🤣🤣🤣
“He’s a come from behind kinda guy”
- The nonchalant delivery makes the line stick even more
1:42 "He's a come from behind kind of guy" 😆😆🤣 I don't know how Silvio and Carlo kept their shittt. 😆
Silvio was my fav. Loved him in Lillyhammer too. Great show.
yes he was great
Shame they canceled it 😒
I forgot about that show. The first season was good.
2:55 one of the best scenes in the entire show
From Tony’s face, his heavy breathing, “it’s 2006, there’s pillowbiters in the special forces”
Silvio not saying anything until Tony’s irritated “what”
Silvios reasoning.
Tony slowly realizing the facts that Sil is right
Cinematic gold
For anyone interested, the first song playing in the background is Chemical Brothers - Loops Of Fury
Tony's facial expressions in this scene are classic
Let's say he's shows up, are you gonna kiss him on the cheeks...😂😂😂....SILVIO
🤣😂🤣
Silvio always knew how to break it down. Dude would havd given Socrates run for his money 🤣
He’s gotta go
Catching? Not pitching?
All Sil ever cared about was Tony and keeping a cool head involved in the conversation. About as stand up of a guy as youre gonna find in the mafia. Loyal to the end.
But he can be a sick fuck when he's gambling
Sil would strangle his own mother. He didnt want to be number 1. Like junior was Tonys "lighting rod to take the hits" Tony is Siles lighting rod
@@grandexporter No...............he wouldn't strangle his own mother........................and your analogy is pretty bad. Sil did strangle Bert Gervasi, but he would never do such a thing to a woman let alone his mother. He prefers being the perfect consigliere and being a cosa nostra heavyweight without having the title of boss.
Tony: "He's a real come from behind kind of guy... "
Sil:👀
That Carlo light sprint at 00:03…lmao
Carlo lipstick was on Vito’s pocket 😂
"There's pillow biters in the special forces" I love that line right there. It's Tony acknowledging that just because somebody is gay does not mean that they're weak or not a badass
My only problem with the storyline, was that Vito genuinely was the weakest least badass of the group. Would have been more impactful if it was one of the stronger characters.
Did you see you Vito sneak up on Jackie Jr in broad daylight? He had the makings of a Navy SEAL
Tony is not acknowledging that, he’s a racist homophobic hypocritical piece of New Jersey trash. He is using that as an excuse because Vito bring him in so much money and doesn’t want that to go away
Being agy means you are weak by nature.....God says so
@@neiltorres1883 Per his discussion with the therapist, he really didn't care if he was gay or not.
This scene alone shows how unreasonable and hypocritcal the mafia is .Honestly it wasn't a big deal that Vito was gay. Who cares. The messed up thing is he wasn't honest with his wife. Vito didn't rat or betray them and he made them all rich and they turn their backs on him over some stupid tough guy act. Tony at least understood he brought them in money. I still think the "Its a sin" line is the funniest line in the entire show. These guys rob, murder and hurt people all the time and thats fine but being gay is crossing the line and immoral for them apparently.
I'm glad special needs can voice their opinions
Yeah, but you probably watch enough mafia movies to know that homosexuality in the mob is punishable by death. It's fucked up and outdated as shit, but so is the mafia. Technically, Phil had legitimate beef with Tony for not giving him up
Silvio.. he speaks the truth.. great guy to have in a band also
The way Carlo laughs after Tony promotes him(0.28) 😂😂😂
"Skip the preambles" is what I heard. That's one of the most brilliant statements I've ever heard!
You need to read more
@@DrJ-hx7wv
Nah.
I swear I actually loved Carlos character, he’s a typical “Lieutenant”
Moves like a soldier, talks like a captain with the age of a general.
Notice how he doesn’t put his own emotions in the matter, he only voices concern around the crews morals and thoughts.
Paulie being out after Vitos scalp
And the crew viewing Vitos actions as a sin. Still, when Tony argues that Vito was a top earner Carlos knows the boss’s words are final and makes his thanks and excuses himself.
That’s how real OGs move
(P.S English is not my native language, more like second so there may be some gaps in my grammar. If so, please correct me but be nice about as I’m still learning🙏)
@@archkull Thank you 🙂
@@Blue13GBG12 many people that speak English nativity still make many mistakes. English is also my second language. I hadn't noticed any mistakes in your post. And I'll be dammed if I'll read comments to pick on someone just because they made a mistake in their non-native language. You are doing great.
As long as you're not learning English from Little Carmine, you should be fine.
"Its 2006; there's pillow biters in the special forces"
Tony Soprano is an insecure, angry, pyscopathic, horrible character but by this point in the show (after getting shot by uncle jun) you can see he is already changing how he looks at things and being more mindful and considerate. The character development on this show was excellent and seeing tony go from a guy who had knee-jerk reactions of anger and aggression, to a guy who did more thinking and contemplating than before was so satisfying.
Part of him didnt want to lose Vito because he really didnt care that Vito was gay and moreso because Vito was a high earner but he knew that he'd begin to lose the other men in the crew and good money if he kept Vito around.
I agree. You hit the nail on the head. Tony would have kept Vito. He was indifferent. Tony only cared about the money. He didn't care where it came from as long as he received it every week. He would have turned the other way altogether if it wasn't for other men like Carlo with their homophobia.
@WKD Salty that’s what a simple mind would only see but again, by this point in the show, Tony was changing a little bit. He had parts of him indeed being more understanding and more empathetic (not a lot but a little more than before)
@WKD Salty I bet you’re a Joe Rogan fan. Am I right? lol
@WKD Salty Nah Salty probably watches a bunch of Ben Shapiro
Would everyone just calm down
The more you watch these scenes from the Sopranos, the more you realise the fantastic writing, acting and character development (I can't abide pretentious jargon - but jees, the depth of the characters and the way you see them evolve over the seasons is immense). The way the writers depict the gangsters' hypocrisy is unmatched... I can't believe the real mobsters didn't see it !
Some people still dont see the hypocrasy or straight up just ignore it. The writers did such an excellent job of showing the hypocrosy in Tony, Carmela, Meadow, Paulie, and Chris that you'd have to be blind, deaf and dumb to miss it, as it was most of the time the main point of certain scenes.
They did see it. Members of the Cavalcante Family are the upon which the Sopranos was vaguely based, were quoted on wiretap saying, "you seen this thing, The Sopranos ? Is this about us ?" They even said it was entertaining. Words to that effect.
Wtf
Silvio takes the financial route once the Moral route has unphased Tony...genius...he knows Tony's wallet is his kryptonite .
“He’s a Come from behind kind of guy”. - Silvios face… lol. Silvio = Greatest consigliere of all time.
Sils face when he says “he’s a come from behind kind a guy.”
Tony was a very understanding guy for that time
That time? 2006 ain't even 15 years ago.
@@fenrislegacy It seems like a long time ago though.
There were pluses and minuses to now and then. Certain fashions were more desirable then, as opposed to the butt ugly bearded 4-eyed, tattooed manbunns we have now. And if not, then not far from that
It's easy to be understanding when your best earner is on the chopping block.
Probably the best "what?" uttered
Silvios expression on the “come from behind” line
Carlo is basically just speaking for himself by the end of that speech, surprised Tony didn't call him out directly.
I like this scene cause Tony love the money Vito was bringing. But the wolves in his team wouldnt allow a man that blows another man acess to the earnings.
It wasn't only that. Tony also had to show that *HE* makes the decision on Vito, nobody else. So yeah you're dead on that as the Boss he also definitely needed to factor the money part. Because well, why the hell are they doing this? But he also needed to let his Family know that whether Vito lives or dies it was because he said so, not them. In Tony's mind it was a power play.
Then you have Silvio, as a great Consigliere, showing Tony the bigger picture. Yes he's the Boss, so what happens to Vito is his decision. But the same order of things he's trying to protect by affirming his power. He would lose if he didn't do what they wanted. So in the end Tony really had no options about what to with Vito. Especially with the outside actions of Leotardo.
@@Lord_Bibulous I like your commentary on this scene. I have a question for you. Is Phil’s intervention in this, by killing Vito, a small win for Tony because he didn’t have to make the decision, or is it one of his big losses and contributing factors to the fate of his family in the last part of season six? I always felt like this moment led to his men losing more confidence in him as a leader and to keep them safe so ratting became an easy way out.
@@NPCSingularity It was a big loss for Tony's influence. Leotardo finding and killing Vito showed that he could do what Tony couldn't. It also showed that like you said any one of Tony's guys could be got. It was also Phil's payback for Tony not handing over Tony B.
@@Lord_Bibulous another great answer. Thanks!
He would've let Vito lives and do whatever he likes in Atlanta city had the NY people didn't know that Vito liked to play in the dirt.
Tony might've disapproved of Vito's existence but he's still a business-minded guy and as long as Vito is making banks he would let it slide. But apparently getting on good the good side of Phil Leotardo worth more than whatever number Vito is pulling so he had to let throw Vito under the bus.
Carlo: "I don't know what to say!"
Tony: "Have a drink."
Carlo: "...Another time, Anthony."
3:24 Tony breaking the 4th wall. 😲
*Silvio voice* "Everytime I try to watch a new series, the sopranos keep pulling me back in" 🤣
Yea, I start with one and end up watching 3 hours worth lol
Excellent consigliere Silvio is. He examined all of the “loopholes” that could go wrong, which could cause problems in the future.
0:53 "Skip the preambles" 😂😂
They have a problem with the morals and principles and Tony says “ I don’t know if I’d have the boat without him” that says a lot
Edit: and then sil saying people Will withhold serious money being a factor in Tony’s decision shows it’s all about the dollars and cents to him
Tony's only worried about the cash flow
Facts 💯
He cares about come from
Behind guy’s
Just like Carmine said to Johnny Sack when he wanted to whack Ralphie for calling his wife fat. Yes it's about the money, they aren't in a criminal organization for the charity.
Uh yes, why do you think they're in the mafia? Lol
@@kristinalfc5846 Porbably they're in the mafia to preserve some Italian heritage and educate people about Italian culture? Not everyone does it for the money.
Carlo's body language towards Tony is surpringly very respectful.
The way the camera kept Silvio out of focus when speaking with Tony was masterful direction.
"Tony it's against our principles, it's a sin" but lying, stealing, murdering...eh
Meh.
Yeah, that was the writers hitting us over the heads with the hypocrisy.
Ok you are gay. We get it
“Our principals”. As in they might just have different principals than a modern sjw.
@@gt2e As opposed to a traditional sjw?
“He’s a come from behind kind of guy”
No truer words have been spoken.🤣
"I wouldn't have my Shinebox without him"
hey now......you just go back to eating your Johnnie cakes and forget about all that.
😅
Carlos jogs in and out.. that’s dedication!
You can tell hes really listening, when sil says take Paulie okay , Tony sortof nodded as if right.
Gandolfini was the kind of old- school, multi-layered complex actor that made me fall in love with movies. He reflected the intensity of the mystery of the human condition as it truly is. Not like modern day, one-note actors who have destroyed cinema and film as art. Look at the last shot and the way the director can just leave him in focus as he processes this complex topic and never says a word... RIP.
Tony's "Come from behind kinda guy" and Johnny's "Ginny can get heavy" are hilarious 😅
Best show ever , hands down.
that's never been disputed
@@funasylumstudio im sure it has
Lmao carlo jugging towards tony..and then jogging to the door always cracks me up lmao.
Lmao I just noticed dat shit
Silvio askin the Hard Hittin questions.
"Hard"
I love how these wise guys just seen them a day ago and hug and peck on the cheek like they haven't seen them in a few years. Classic
It must be a custom from the old country.
love the cunning of silvio here.he knows tony so the more anyone objects about vito the more he will stick his heels in just to prove hes boss so he doesnt mention the rights and wrongs.he knows how to manipilate tony so he picks up the fact it may hurt tonys pocket rather than any other reason.
Well he is right in this case, and he knows what angle could make Tony see, financial one.
Also, all the big bosses were sensitive about earning, it's the fucking thing they are doing.
Good observation
“Come from behind type of guy” They all missed that one 🤣
2:24 Tony really putting his cards on the table. He knows that Carlo and Vito were homosexual partners. Carlo gets very upset when Finn gives his testimony ("Catchin'? Not pitchin'?). Carlo was the biggest advocate to clip Vito before the facts were settled. Why? It was Carlo who set Vito up at the gay bar where he knew Sal made collections. ("I know him. He's a friend of ours"). Carlo wanted to take over Vito's construction business which he accomplishes in this scene. Tony wants to spare Vito because of his profitability. He can make money on the side without New York finding out. Tony reads that Carlo has already consulted with Sil to further push the sentiment to clip Vito and finally connects the dots. The last piece of the puzzle is for Carlo to have Vito clipped in order to solidify his position and destroy all evidence of his own homosexuality. That's why Tony says what he says: "We all know Vito's not the first". He acknowledges the entire setup and turns the threat on Carlo. The Sopranos was truly a masterclass of writing and storytelling.
Dude what? That is completely absurd, Tony was referencing how in the real American mafia, there have even outed made men. What evidence is there to show carlo was gay
@@throwawaymcjoe1387 Maybe your parents can explain it to you when you're older. In the meantime, go play with your toys or study the show for yourself. I've conducted film analysis on this show for over a decade so forgive me for laughing at your simpleton theory of "Tony is talking about the mafia and that explains everything." Also, name ONE made guy in the American mob who was outed and didn't get clipped.
He's a "Come from behind kinda guy."
Oh Tony, if you only knew. LMAO
Every scene of sil and tony was excellent
If I was called to see Tony I'd crap my pants. You never know why he wants to see you. Gandolfini was a brilliant actor.
That's why Carlo was laughing like crazy when Tony said it's a promotion, normally an invitation like this meant bye bye 👋
This is one of those moments where i think if tony had just listened to Silvio more, so much of the shows conflict could’ve been avoided
The look on silvios face when Tony says “cone from behind type of guy”🤣
1:31 that alpha chair swag
The real MVP is Tony's chair
Carlo's line that "Some people feel its against our principles" really needs to become the next running Sopranos joke in the comment threads, especially given how developed the show's theme of all the major characters being massive hypocrites was.
He's a shine from behind the box kind of guy.
"It's 2006..."
I remember when I was a teenager and this episode first came out. God I feel so old. :-(
Here comes "silvio loyal to the end" comments
Special Forces: Pillow Bite Division
I always loved how Carlos reaction to the good news was to laugh
Just when I thought I was done watching episodes of The Sopranos, they pull me back in!