Just a quick heads up for anyone interested in the Katadyn be free. You can use the Hydrapak Seeker collapsible water bags in conjunction with the filter. So you don’t have to worry too much about the Katadyn filter bag.
I’m wondering if you had the 1 liter BeFree compared to the 1 liter QuickDraw they would both have the same capacity. Which would clog faster and which is easier to unclog. That would be the most useful data to be able to compare the two.
Just my experience I had the befree fail on me within two days but I could have gotten a dud , so I went with the platypus quick draw and love it’s versatility and ease of cleaning. One major plus with me on the QuickDraw is you can check the integrity of the filter.
I think the platypus quick drawer wins because you can clip a Carabiner clip onto the bag loop with some paracord and lower it down to the water source if you can not get down to it due to a steep embankment
I've been a BeFree fan and user for a little over 2 years now. I just had to replace my filter a couple months ago when the flow rate dropped to almost nothing. I think that's pretty amazing. I love just about everything about it. I just purchased the Platypus Quickdraw to test out. It does have a little slower flow rate, but the reason for looking at that one is for thru hike purposes. Convenient to have something that can attach to nearly any bottle mouth whereas the BeFree can't. I've never had my bag bust in the over 2 years I've had it, but if it did, I'd be screwed til I can order and get a new one. When you're on a shorter trip, no big deal, I carry tabs to clean my water just in case, but when out for months it's definitely not an ideal situation.
just a tip with the befree, carry a second bag. It can be used for extra storage of water on long sections and doubles as a backup if the bag gets a hole in. I don't own the beefree btw, just a thought I hear people complain about the non standard thread.
@@nedsled2994 You shouldn't mix fresh water and dirt water bags, though. So it isn't as convenient as it sounds. Also using both actively means there's a higher chance of both breaking at about the same time.
Be Free- Be Garbage- yes I owned one and was let down after 50-60 refills the membrane's inside filter really separated and drops were coming out. I followed directions to clean it and still not a lot of water coming out. Filter was compromised very early on. Ordered the Platapus and took on a long trip and I could depend on this all the way. Its a good quality filter and I give it 10 our of 10. No I am not being sponsored.....just know a good filter when I use it based on all my backcountry adventures. Don't buy Be Free unless you are willing to be ripped off Sheila Vancouver BC Canada
I've used a few Sawyer filters before switching to the Katadyn BeFree. Loved the increase flow rate with the BeFree for about three trips and then it stopped filtering even after multiple cleanings. My guess is that I have a "lemon" BeFree filter, however I was very disappointed. I'll be trying the Platypus this year... Thanks for the comparison.
Thanks. This excellent review helps tremendously especially when trying to find a starting point in choosing a filter. I think I’ll go with the katadyn
I own the Katadyn and love it but was thinking about the Survivor filter or the Geopress to be able to filter viruses. Im kinda leaning towards the Grayl cause it seems more versitile, but still havent decided.
hello to France, i use Platypus since long long time and is it a very good ergonomic and resistance! Katadyn i use the big Purifier and is a good product too! thank's for all your vidéo! God Bless you!
Do either of these seal up good with the Source UTA refill attachment? I currently fill my 3L Source bladders with a Geopress, but its kinda heavy, gravity fed and slow or unable to completely fill if there's pack pressure on the bladder, and its bulky overall. The Geopress is excellent as a stand-alone filter/container for packing or travel to sketch places (plus it has virus coverage), but it's clumbsy to access and use on the move compared to a hose, and isn't the best partner for a bladder *if* the UTA is factored in. (However the Geopress is an excellent match for quick filling other bladder brands without in-line hose fill capabilities.)
I carry the Bfree in all my water kits packs down small and they work great never got sick(knock on wood) thanks Aaron enjoy your weekend and god bless
Well, I love my katadyn...been using it for years but I just got myself the Platypus filter and will use it on my upcoming trips this year.... I can't wait to see how good it is... :)
I’ve never used anything but a Sawyer and a Sawyer Mini which have both worked fine for me.they are readily available at my local Wal-Mart,Academy Sports and Dick’s Sporting Goods
I will in an up coming video. These are much lighter, cheaper, and process more water before needing a filter swap. But the Grayl series of filters is tougher, can filter all forms of bacteria, protozoa, plus viruses that these do not so they are good worldwide. And they can handle a few freezes where if these filters get frozen even once below 32°F there trash.
Thank you. More vids about water filters please. They are one of the prepping and hiking world's biggest sources of angst. It seems like no company wants to truly get it right. And please include do it all filters. Not everyone uses them in pristine wilderness areas. Does anyone have lower cost/just as good alternatives to the Grayls?
Thanks for the review. I know it's been a couple of months, but question.... The water filtered through my BeFree tastes like the reservoir. Is that normal?
A suggestion: As a cyclist we were taught never to put your mouth in the spout of the water bottle. Squirt into your mouth so as not to contaminate or pass germs to others.
I used the be free on my most recent bug out test and wasnt impressed with the taste of the water. It tasted like i was drinking plastic. Speed was good taste was bad.
Hi from Spain. I know you like Joker knives, prove the new Montañero (green micarta), it's a budget knife, so comfortable in hand. Sandvik 14c28N steel, good slicer, perfect for preparing food and for different tasks like making notches, carving, etx.. Good all around knife, surely you will enjoy it. And if you are lookin for a bigger blade prove the Joke Bushcrafter in green micarta. Absolutely amazing. One of my favorite knives ever
Why is your caption labeling them as purifiers if the companies that sell them market them as filters? Filtration and purification are two different types of water disinfection and viruses are no removed by filters they have be removed by purification such as a purification system, or boiling and there are a few other methods.
I love my Sawyer squeeze. Minis, and, the original. When I go backpacking, I find a water source on the map, and that's almost all I need. I never really used it as a straw, or bottle. I would squeeze it into another bottle or whatever. I definitely wanna try one of these. I like the full size Sawyer for ultra emergencies (the apocalypse lol) because it filters waaaay more than a lot of others, as long as you can backwash it.
i think i dont get how the filter works, because if the water can hit the Katadyn filter on the side, then doesn't that mean it wont travel the full length of the filter making it not work as well? someone please chime in im keen to learn!
The two platypus covers screw into each other to make them harder to lose. I disappointed that my platypus bag developed a leak in the seal at the opening on my second trip.
Im a sawer guy. Your filters only filter 250 gallons Sawyer filters up to 100 thousand gallons. Filters down to.1 microns Sawyer squeeze and micro squeeze can be set up different ways Squeeze Inline to bladder Gravity Hang system from tree and filter water while doing camp chores or cooking Sawyer filters can be back flushed to improve flow rate. Neither of yous can Lastly the Sawyer foundation is giving filters away in 80 different countries to prevent poor people in the poorest parts of the world to keep people from getting sick and dying from water borne diseases The choice to use Sawyer filters i don't have to think about it except remember. This filter will last 10+ years if i protect the filter from freezing
EPIC filters may be OK, but their service is CRAP! Orders take over a month to arrive and only after emailing back and forth and begging for them to dispatch it. I ordered three filters from them recently, weeks later, nothing. When I contacted them, they said it was "lost in the mail". Problem with that is that I never even got an email confirmation of shipment, so not sure how it "got lost". Then I get an email confirmation for one filter dispatch when I paid for three. I go back to them and tell them that I actually ordered three and could they just dispatch my three filters and this is the response I got: We cannot provide nor confirm the exact time frame or exact items, but we are doing our best to make sure that your order will be shipped out altogether as fast as we can. I wouldn't recommend. Time to find a new service.
Ivd got both as does a friend. I was excited when I got the platypus - and was quickly very disappointed. My friends is the same. The through put is dismal - so slow. I can process 2 litres through the Katadyn before my friend has done 500ml with the Platypus. We have swopped to see if it’s operators error but it’s made no difference. I won’t be buying another platypus or recommending them.
It equals bacteria, but you are right on the other two. I would say these are recreational vs survival that can do heavy metals, viruses, and chemicals.
I am super interested in the platypus. At first I was gonna get the be free. I own real nice water filters made by survivor filter. They have a system like sawyer etc..and they have pumps etc.survivor filter filters to .05 microns for all.their filters and their USA made. I dont like the fragility of the be free. I own a grayl geo press so the platypus appeals to me but .2 microns?? How do I trust that and why wud anyone buy it? .2 is not very safe.
Just a quick heads up for anyone interested in the Katadyn be free. You can use the Hydrapak Seeker collapsible water bags in conjunction with the filter. So you don’t have to worry too much about the Katadyn filter bag.
Exactly my setup. Using the Seeker 3L.
I’m wondering if you had the 1 liter BeFree compared to the 1 liter QuickDraw they would both have the same capacity. Which would clog faster and which is easier to unclog. That would be the most useful data to be able to compare the two.
Just my experience I had the befree fail on me within two days but I could have gotten a dud , so I went with the platypus quick draw and love it’s versatility and ease of cleaning. One major plus with me on the QuickDraw is you can check the integrity of the filter.
I think the platypus quick drawer wins because you can clip a Carabiner clip onto the bag loop with some paracord and lower it down to the water source if you can not get down to it due to a steep embankment
I've been a BeFree fan and user for a little over 2 years now. I just had to replace my filter a couple months ago when the flow rate dropped to almost nothing. I think that's pretty amazing. I love just about everything about it.
I just purchased the Platypus Quickdraw to test out. It does have a little slower flow rate, but the reason for looking at that one is for thru hike purposes. Convenient to have something that can attach to nearly any bottle mouth whereas the BeFree can't. I've never had my bag bust in the over 2 years I've had it, but if it did, I'd be screwed til I can order and get a new one. When you're on a shorter trip, no big deal, I carry tabs to clean my water just in case, but when out for months it's definitely not an ideal situation.
just a tip with the befree, carry a second bag. It can be used for extra storage of water on long sections and doubles as a backup if the bag gets a hole in. I don't own the beefree btw, just a thought I hear people complain about the non standard thread.
@@nedsled2994 You shouldn't mix fresh water and dirt water bags, though. So it isn't as convenient as it sounds. Also using both actively means there's a higher chance of both breaking at about the same time.
@@DerKatzeSonne A second bag would serve first as a clean bag. If your dirty bag gets a leak then your second bag would now become your dirty bag.
@@neobello6736 sad you have to explain that lol
This was an amazing review. Honestly I haven’t been looking for a new filter system. This was an eye opener.
Be Free- Be Garbage- yes I owned one and was let down after 50-60 refills the membrane's inside filter really separated and drops were coming out. I followed directions to clean it and still not a lot of water coming out. Filter was compromised very early on.
Ordered the Platapus and took on a long trip and I could depend on this all the way. Its a good quality filter and I give it 10 our of 10.
No I am not being sponsored.....just know a good filter when I use it based on all my backcountry adventures. Don't buy Be Free unless you are willing to be ripped off
Sheila Vancouver BC Canada
Always appreciate your willingness to actually field test the products and let us know real world applications. Thank you.
I've used a few Sawyer filters before switching to the Katadyn BeFree. Loved the increase flow rate with the BeFree for about three trips and then it stopped filtering even after multiple cleanings. My guess is that I have a "lemon" BeFree filter, however I was very disappointed. I'll be trying the Platypus this year... Thanks for the comparison.
Let it rehydrate
Thanks. This excellent review helps tremendously especially when trying to find a starting point in choosing a filter. I think I’ll go with the katadyn
I own the Katadyn and love it but was thinking about the Survivor filter or the Geopress to be able to filter viruses. Im kinda leaning towards the Grayl cause it seems more versitile, but still havent decided.
hello to France, i use Platypus since long long time and is it a very good ergonomic and resistance! Katadyn i use the big Purifier and is a good product too! thank's for all your vidéo! God Bless you!
Do either of these seal up good with the Source UTA refill attachment?
I currently fill my 3L Source bladders with a Geopress, but its kinda heavy, gravity fed and slow or unable to completely fill if there's pack pressure on the bladder, and its bulky overall.
The Geopress is excellent as a stand-alone filter/container for packing or travel to sketch places (plus it has virus coverage), but it's clumbsy to access and use on the move compared to a hose, and isn't the best partner for a bladder *if* the UTA is factored in.
(However the Geopress is an excellent match for quick filling other bladder brands without in-line hose fill capabilities.)
You forgot to test one of the most important things. The BeFree clogs much faster and us harder to restore flow on.
Dude the mountain streams out there in Colorado were so cold and so good. I'd love to live out there.
I carry the Bfree in all my water kits packs down small and they work great never got sick(knock on wood) thanks Aaron enjoy your weekend and god bless
iv been looking for something to put on my bass boat what do you think would be best im open to all options i use a big berkey at the house.
Liked the video. Big fan of the befree. I run mine with the cnoc water bladders.
Yeah these are better than just a filter straw. You really need to be able to fill a container or have a pump to filter water in a container.
Thank you. Good vid. I am looking to simplify vs my Sawyer + 2 CNOC system and these are both terrific options.
Well, I love my katadyn...been using it for years but I just got myself the Platypus filter and will use it on my upcoming trips this year.... I can't wait to see how good it is... :)
How's it go
@@urgamecshk love my platypus... never failed, never clogged, great flow
I’ve never used anything but a Sawyer and a Sawyer Mini which have both worked fine for me.they are readily available at my local Wal-Mart,Academy Sports and Dick’s Sporting Goods
Great review as always, thanks a lot! How would you compare these options to a Grayl Geopress?
I will in an up coming video. These are much lighter, cheaper, and process more water before needing a filter swap. But the Grayl series of filters is tougher, can filter all forms of bacteria, protozoa, plus viruses that these do not so they are good worldwide. And they can handle a few freezes where if these filters get frozen even once below 32°F there trash.
@@gideonstactical excellent info, thanks! 👍
Thank you. More vids about water filters please. They are one of the prepping and hiking world's biggest sources of angst. It seems like no company wants to truly get it right. And please include do it all filters. Not everyone uses them in pristine wilderness areas. Does anyone have lower cost/just as good alternatives to the Grayls?
Thanks for the review. I know it's been a couple of months, but question.... The water filtered through my BeFree tastes like the reservoir. Is that normal?
A suggestion: As a cyclist we were taught never to put your mouth in the spout of the water bottle. Squirt into your mouth so as not to contaminate or pass germs to others.
The Katedyn filter can attach to hydrapaks
I used the be free on my most recent bug out test and wasnt impressed with the taste of the water. It tasted like i was drinking plastic. Speed was good taste was bad.
Hi from Spain. I know you like Joker knives, prove the new Montañero (green micarta), it's a budget knife, so comfortable in hand. Sandvik 14c28N steel, good slicer, perfect for preparing food and for different tasks like making notches, carving, etx.. Good all around knife, surely you will enjoy it.
And if you are lookin for a bigger blade prove the Joke Bushcrafter in green micarta. Absolutely amazing. One of my favorite knives ever
Why is your caption labeling them as purifiers if the companies that sell them market them as filters? Filtration and purification are two different types of water disinfection and viruses are no removed by filters they have be removed by purification such as a purification system, or boiling and there are a few other methods.
Are these purifiers or filters? Can they filter viruses?
They do everything but viruses
I missed a comparison in risk of clogging. As the BeFree is starting to get a reputation of clogging easily.
Great video!
I love my Sawyer squeeze. Minis, and, the original. When I go backpacking, I find a water source on the map, and that's almost all I need. I never really used it as a straw, or bottle. I would squeeze it into another bottle or whatever. I definitely wanna try one of these. I like the full size Sawyer for ultra emergencies (the apocalypse lol) because it filters waaaay more than a lot of others, as long as you can backwash it.
i think i dont get how the filter works, because if the water can hit the Katadyn filter on the side, then doesn't that mean it wont travel the full length of the filter making it not work as well?
someone please chime in im keen to learn!
Thanks, Aaron! Definitely interested in the Katadyn. They do have a 1.0 liter version for $4 on Amazon.
The two platypus covers screw into each other to make them harder to lose. I disappointed that my platypus bag developed a leak in the seal at the opening on my second trip.
How does these water filtration system stack up against the "Grayl"??
I 3D printed an adapter for the katadyn so it fits on a regular water bottle. If you need one yell.
the BeFree filter can be used on some Hydrapak bottles...
Mines is not getting enough water out, what I’m I doing wrong or is mines defective?
Great info.
I just used my BeFree last weekend. Had quite a lot of chlorine taste. Did you notice that?
Weird, no I did not. I would maybe flush a few clean water runs through it.
I accidently left my sawyer squeeze filter outside overnight when the temp dropped to 25 F. Does that mean it's no good now.
I would NOT use that filter again and replace it.
Im a sawer guy.
Your filters only filter 250 gallons
Sawyer filters up to 100 thousand gallons. Filters down to.1 microns
Sawyer squeeze and micro squeeze can be set up different ways
Squeeze
Inline to bladder
Gravity
Hang system from tree and filter water while doing camp chores or cooking
Sawyer filters can be back flushed to improve flow rate. Neither of yous can
Lastly the Sawyer foundation is giving filters away in 80 different countries to prevent poor people in the poorest parts of the world to keep people from getting sick and dying from water borne diseases
The choice to use Sawyer filters i don't have to think about it except remember.
This filter will last 10+ years if i protect the filter from freezing
EPIC filters may be OK, but their service is CRAP! Orders take over a month to arrive and only after emailing back and forth and begging for them to dispatch it. I ordered three filters from them recently, weeks later, nothing. When I contacted them, they said it was "lost in the mail". Problem with that is that I never even got an email confirmation of shipment, so not sure how it "got lost". Then I get an email confirmation for one filter dispatch when I paid for three. I go back to them and tell them that I actually ordered three and could they just dispatch my three filters and this is the response I got:
We cannot provide nor confirm the exact time frame or exact items, but we are doing our best to make sure that your order will be shipped out altogether as fast as we can.
I wouldn't recommend. Time to find a new service.
Can you do a review of both versions of this Knife CIVIVI Elementum Fixed Blade Knife Flat Black G-10 (4" Black SW)
can you connect the platypus hydration hose to the filter so you can walk while you drink?
Yes
Can the Quick draw work with the 28mm Cnoc water bags?
Yep!
Ivd got both as does a friend. I was excited when I got the platypus - and was quickly very disappointed. My friends is the same. The through put is dismal - so slow. I can process 2 litres through the Katadyn before my friend has done 500ml with the Platypus. We have swopped to see if it’s operators error but it’s made no difference. I won’t be buying another platypus or recommending them.
Did you let them re hydrate first?
@@urgamecshk actually cut one open and found the internals were fused together. Very poor quality.
Budget ultralight doesn’t equal viruses chemicals and bacteria
It equals bacteria, but you are right on the other two. I would say these are recreational vs survival that can do heavy metals, viruses, and chemicals.
Befree is the go and I have diffrent hyrapak bottles to go with it I have a 1l and a 3l for around camp or if I want to carry a little bit
My katadyn failed after 50 liters maybe. Kinda disappointed
I'd go for Grayl.
Can you do a video on all the best water filter system you think are the best from life straw to hand pump filters please
Swapping spit in 2021?
I want water filter tap in 🇮🇳one lac pcs please give me details.
Does it matter which one is faster as long as it gets you clean water in an emergency situation…?!?!
platypus really give what user want huh...
i see alot of holes in the wall casing the filter. how can that work? i think i will stick with the sawyer
I am super interested in the platypus. At first I was gonna get the be free. I own real nice water filters made by survivor filter. They have a system like sawyer etc..and they have pumps etc.survivor filter filters to .05 microns for all.their filters and their USA made. I dont like the fragility of the be free. I own a grayl geo press so the platypus appeals to me but .2 microns?? How do I trust that and why wud anyone buy it?
.2 is not very safe.
Your ad here.
First, eat my shorts!
Befree is really unreliable