Dealing with Quackgrass and Poa & Renovation results!
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Hey Everyone,
In this video I will be showing you the results of my 2024 spring renovation and I will also go into how you can deal with Poa Annua (annual meadow grass) and quackgrass. I have an infestation of those going on and I will tell you how I plan to deal with them.
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Can wait for the next video and see what is the secret recipe during summer
Hopefully tomorrow 😉
I have been following your tips for a while now, which has been a huge help for my lawn. Last week, I just seeded a new area of my backyard and it started to come through in just 4 days! I used an Amazon compost spreader to put soil over the top which certainly helps. Something I did different this year was spread some ground coffee to keep the ants away, as they have a habit of simply walking off with half the seeds where we live, even if they are buried. For weeds, since I have a dislike of weed killers, I usually perform what I like to call "hair translants." I prepare some grass in little seedling containers, and when they're ready, I cut out the weed completely (roots and all) and drop the transplant in place. Looks odd for a couple of weeks, but it quickly starts to blend in. Thanks for the tips, good luck with the summer. Cheers from the south of France.
Hey mate! Thanks, very glad you find the videos helpful! Great job with the lawn and thanks for the tip with the coffee, I also have some issues with ants, will try that next time! Was also thinking about doing that transplant, I used to do it a couple of years ago but not anymore, now that you mentioned it, it would maybe work awesome against the quack grass, just replacing it with some new grass straight away so it doesn´t have a chance to pop up. Great idea mate!!
Hi Sam, in Austria we are allowed to use a selective herbicide against Queckgrass, this stuff is called HIRSEFREI EXTRA. It's a version of BAYER Puma Extra, what is a commercial use selective herbicide against queckgrass (in Austria we call queckgrass HIRSE).
I apply it in May when the Hirse is starting to grow good and then bye bye for the rest of the year 😂
gope you can fet it in Sweden - good luck! 😊
Hey Mathias, thanks for the tip mate, we cannot use it in Sweden and normally I would not use herbicides even if it was allowed, BUT when it comes to quackgrass I just might have done it, soooo annoying weed 😅
@@SamsLawn I agree 😅
I can live with poa annua… but when it comed to queckgrass or poa triv…. puh, i have nightmares because of them 😱😱😱
Interesting videos. I'm going to use the pre-germinating technique to fill in areas which are thin and areas where I will have taken out the crab grass. From Wales.....let's crack on 🙂
Works really well mate! Crack on!! 😂🥳
Buddy! It is a great start! Looking good. If you had a longer growing season, your lawn would be amazing all the time!
If only! Feels like the season is at an end before it even starts over here 😂
My Monaco Bermuda seems to have a VERY slow start like your KBG. I pushed the limits this time pre germinating by letting many sprout, 8 days in the buckets. huge success, I saw grass blades the very next day, Sprouts are more visible everywhere after 5 days. Lesson learned, if you dont see many shooting roots in the strainer, do not seed yet unless the weather makes you. Regular seeding seems to germinate at different times, pre germination hits many much faster, it is day 13 total of the seeds being wet. I saw nothing like this just seeding by day 13
I guess that´s the balance we have to find, letting it sprout enough so that it really gets going as soon as you get it out on the lawn AND not letting it sprout TOO much so it becomes difficult to spread.
Lol so true about KBG. The anxiety of over seeding. After all the hard work and the process you just keep it moist, hope and pray lol. Keep up the hard work. Have you looked into TTTF a or Rye?
haha I know right! Stupid slow grass! 😂
But now that it is growing, I am also reminded that it really is a gorgeous grass type! 😍
I had a 100% Rye grass lawn before this, but Rye is sensitive to cold weather, so our harsh winters in Sweden killed off a lot of the Rye every year, so that´s why I am switching over to KGB and introducing some creeping red fescue to the mix. See if that helps. Haven´t tried TTTF, tried to find it in Sweden, but I couldn´t find anyone selling any mixes with alot of TTTF in it, at the most the mix had 5% or 10% of it, doesn´t seem to be very popular over here in the EU.
Great job, Sam! Your lawn looks much better than before. After watching your awesome video I had a couple of thoughts to share with you. Consider using a CF Valve (constant flow valve) for your backpack sprayer. These valves provide consistent pressure, similar to electric sprayers, and automatically shut off if the pressure drops below the specified psi rating. This makes pumping easier and reduces the number of pumping strokes needed. I recommend using a 21 psi CF Valve for your sprayer. They are easy to install and cheap you won't be disappointed.
As for the POA, it's quite challenging to kill without spending a significant amount on a post-emergent commercial herbicide. Instead, consider using an organic pre-emergent with corn gluten to prevent Poa seeds from germinating and spreading. Additional ways to suppress Poa, applying FeSO4 at a rate of 0.5 - 1 pound per 1,000 sq.ft. Applications of PGR with paclobutrazol, applied at 0.004 - 0.007 pound per 1,000 sq.ft. If you do regular treatments of this for 1-2 years you can reduce Poa grass populations to less than 10%.
Regarding quack grass, the best option is to use Puma selective herbicide, which you should be able to order online. If you have difficulty finding it, I could sell you some.
Hey mate! I am so glad you found my channel, you always have awesome helpful tips! I will look into the valve, sounds awesome! I actually got an electric sprayer too, just haven´t had time to unbox it even 😅
Didn´t think there was an organic way to control Poa! Will definitely look into corn gluten, even if it´s slower and maybe not as effective as chemicals I will gladly use anything as long as it helps a little bit along the way!
I looked up Puma, but it doesn´t say on the label that it controls quack grass?
Thanks mate, appreciate your input!
@@SamsLawn Thank you Sam. Life is all about helping each other and sharing knowledge. Electric is definitely the way to go. Just a heads up, if you're using a Chapin, take the cover off and check the hose clamp before it ruins the pump/battery. Be sure to keep the battery pack out until you've filled up the sprayer, any water will fry the battery. Careful with soluble powders be sure to use the strainer and hot water. Debris can easily get past the screens into the pump, causing surges and messing up your spray coverage. It's a pain to fix, as you have to take everything apart. I highly recommend getting a 2-nozzle boom they're super efficient. With it, I can cover 20,000 sq.ft in just 30 minutes. Pair it with a TeeJet XR11003VS or XR11004VS Extended Range nozzle, and you'll be incredibly efficient. Also, if you're applying soil amendments, like wetting agent, consider using a TeeJet Air Induction nozzle. These nozzles increase water droplet size, helping the products get into the soil instead of just sitting on the foliage.
@@LegendaryLawnCare89 I actually have a flowzone, but I assume the boom can be used with that one too? I was looking into those, looked nice, cover more area :)
@@SamsLawn I realized my mistake about the Puma. I've only used it on crabgrass, so I assumed it would be effective against quackgrass. After reading some herbicide research papers, I see that you were 100% correct. There are a few options for dealing with quackgrass. Option 1: because quackgrass grows faster than other grasses, you can mow it short and then wait until the quackgrass is 1" taller than your lawn. Then, you can apply Fusilade II or Glyphosate with an AccuTip Dauber to avoid any drift (just don't walk in the areas you spray, work backwards). Option two: depending on how bad the infestation is, you could use a plugger and replace the quackgrass with healthy turfgrass. Option three: making frequent applications of low rates of Nitrogen will eventually choke it out over a couple of years. If you want to make the quackgrass grass less visible, you can use a high rate of chelated iron it will kill the foliage without harming your grass, and iron is great for chlorophyll production.
For the boom attachment, you'll need to figure out your thread size to see if it's compatible. You can buy an adapter/reducer bushing or make your own boom out of PVC or something similar. The TeeJet nozzles are definitely compatible with your sprayer btw. If you're going to be doing a lot of spraying, it's worth reading up on the different types of nozzles for specific applications. TeeJet has a nozzle for every application and they come in a variety of GPM and different spray angles. Also, check out tank mixing procedures to get the most out of your applications and avoid any potential problems (hint: W.A.L.E.S. tank mixing order). Personally, I love trying new products and different tank mixes. I'm actually in the process of bottling a couple of new products that I came up with - just waiting on a shipment of bottles. If you ever have any questions about application rates, product compatibility, or turfgrass management, just ask - I'm happy to help. I have lots of experience in the golf course industry and lawn care.
@@LegendaryLawnCare89 Thanks dude, much appreciated! I will definitely hit you up when I have questions, I usually just read a lot of university studies to figure out what I want to try out, but it´s always nice to share experiences with someone in the game :)
Thank you very much for all the tips and input!
Sam, the lawns looking amazing for the time span. It’ll just get better and better. Like you say the poa is such a pain, and seems to be getting, worst year on year. Love the videos 👍
Hey Steve! Thanks mate! It really is, I actually didn´t have that much issues with poa in the past, but this year it just exploded! Probably due to all the bare spots, opportunistic grass!
Looking great, Sam. I’m getting some good grass results in Chicago. We had a ton of rain in May. That helped a lot!!
Hey Craig, awesome mate, great job! 💪🥳
Tell us more about that Makita attachment. I suppose it's the EM407MP rotary scissors? Do you prefer it for edging over string?
I appreciate your translation of quackgrass to kvickrot! Adding such overlays more often would be awesome so I don't need to pause and google all the time. Perhaps you should consider adding such translations as well as model numbers like the Makita attachment to your descriptions?
I've been eyeing the Burgon & Ball and Sneeboer & Zn scarifying rakes and the Swardman & Risisani hollow tines. Perhaps they could be something for you to get at the areas closer to the edges? Please try them so I don't have to! 😆
Hey mate! Yes that´s the one! I am actually doing a comparison video right now :)
I try to think about the overlays, but it didn´t cross my mind to let everyone know what tools I am using. I am still in the mindset that no one really watches my videos and no one cares what I use, just as in the beginning when I first started the channel 😅
So I appreciate the feedback, I will try to put more overlays and explain what I am using. I actually bought a "cultivator" I use it in my next video, I think it worked great. It doesn´t scarify, but it does cultivate the soil before seeding. Maybe I will invest in a scarifying rake too ;)
Fiskars make a rotary spiky cultivator other folks call a "Weasel tool".
An import that is very strong and sturdy is made by Corona over here, worth the money as the weight of it will shallow cultivate your edges for seeding.
Quack can be discouraged a bit if you cut across the crown or center of a bunch with a sharp knife.
* like a Cats bottom....!
Then a few days later pull, as it is weakened.
Your turf is looking very good and in summer it will be even more awesome!
Hey Wayne! Thanks for the tips mate! I actually bought a cultivator now, just to do the edges :D
Will try to cut across the quackgrass, see how that works! Thanks!
Cotton gloves over nitrate gloves and you paint that quackgrass with glyphosate. It worked very well for me!
I would actually try that, but glyphosate is banned for home owners to use in Sweden 🤷♂️
Vi har sjukt mycket kvickrot i våra buskar längs tomten som är riktigt jobbiga att rensa. :( Vi försöker rensa bort så mycket vi kan och sen täcka marken, men det kommer alltid tillbaka!
Ja kvickrot med sina utlöpare är ett helskotta att bli av med, om inte hela rotsystemet dör så poppar det upp igen, den går igenom täckbark och tunna markdukar också, helt sjukt ihärdig. Tyvärr har man inte så många alternativ när det gäller kvickrot. Tror acceptans och försöka kontrollera det så gott det går är det enda 🤷♂️
Last year I did a scarify + overseeding with KBG and all I got was poa annua and poa trivialis.
I think I see some at least 1 plant of trivialis at 07:14. I hope it's true, I would love to see you make videos how to sort that mess out, it will be hell!
This year I just did glyphosate + scarify + KBG seeding and it came in perfectly, no poa annua, no trivialis, just short and slow KBG.
The side is almost overrun with quackgrass, poa triv, poa annua. It´s a big mess to be honest. But unfortunately those 3 "weeds" are just impossible to get rid of. Glyphosate is the only think that works I think. You can reduce it using good cultural practices but that takes years and you will never get it all. Best way is to just accept that it is what it is and at least it´s green :D
Wow, was that an allett mower cameo!? 😛 about frickin' time!
hahaha for sure Kristian!!!
I was actually on a Norwegian podcast talking about my channel, I actually mentioned you there, you always pop up in my mind when I use the Allett :D
Hey Sam, great video and it's certainly looking a lot better than it was. A wee bit of TLC and it'll all work out fine. It was great to hear you mention Shaun @LawnRight too as I also follow all his videos. I'm now looking forward to see what your summer cocktail mix is and can't wait for your next videos to see how things are coming along. Good with it all and the weather. We're back to another week of rain here in north east Scotland 😞 Cheers! Mick
Hey Mick! Thanks mate! I heard that UK is not having the best weather at the moment, we are having some really cold weather here too now! Where in Scotland are you located? One of my favourite places to visit, used to go every year, drive around for a couple of weeks.
Working on the next videos this week, hopefully I can get them done soon :)
@@SamsLawn The rain is still coming daily, and mostly all day every day :-( Getting very annoying now and just can't get anything done. Still, like you say, nobody is going to die and it'll get done eventually so no real dramas. I live in Lossiemouth on the north east coast. It's like a late spring just now and turned cold too. Looking forward to enjoying more videos of yours soon. Just home so I'll go have a look now. Cheers! 🙂
@@mickodonnell890 I've actually been through Lossiemouth, we went the costal road through Banff on our way to stay in Elgin, and we took a detour out to Lossiemouth as well, very nice place, love the scenery!
Strong beard game Sam! 💪
haha thanks mate! I already had issues getting through customs at airports, trying to see if I can make it even worse for myself 😂😂
Your summaries and conclusions saves me soooo many google/youtube hours (Best Swedish Lawn Channel, no doubt). I have the same issues with Quack and Poa. And I've found acceptance and adjusted expectations to be a good alternatives to glyphosate :D Crack on!
Wow, thanks dude! Made my day with this comment! 🙏
@@SamsLawn Kul att höra🤠 Slänger in en fråga, jag vill jordförbättra/dressa med kompost/näringsrikare jord (har för bra dränering/mycket sand). Har du tips på en leverantör eller ett fabrikat i Stockholmsområdet som är prisvärt? Har ca 350kvm matta.
@@tobiasaxelson8948 Tyvärr inte Tobias, jag letar ofta själv efter en vettig leverantör där man kan hitta bra siktad kompostjord, verkar dock vara smått omöjligt. Har alltid använt Rölunda som varit väldigt bra, men på senare år har även deras produkter innehållit så otroligt mycket skräp.
Hi Sam! It looks very nice and green to me! Yes, weeds are a pain and since I hate chemicals, I managed to get rid of them by digging...and reseeding, in autumn. As for the edges and near the sprinklers, I scarify manually with a tool. I was just wondering why did you seed kentuky blue grass in the front yard? I loved your video 🐳
Hey Lucy! Same here, even if the chemicals were legal here I don´t think I would use it anyways. I just might for the quackgrass, since it is just so annoying 😅
I have issues with Rye dying of during our harsh winters here, so I thought I might try some kentucky blue grass, see how that works out. In trials, bluegrass is the grass species that handles cold weather the best, so crossing my fingers!
Great video, really interesting to follow the progress. Question.. i live in sweden as well and we are finally having a lot of sun, I have basically watered every day. Is that to much?
Hey Jonas! No need to water every day if you are not seeding. Water 1 time every week and give it a real deep watering (rotblöta), that will push the grass roots to go deeper to get water.
Nice video…. Is that the Makita Rotary Scissors? Do you have a review video on it if so? Thanks…
Hey Thomas, it is a Makita Rotary Scissor, I am doing a comparison with their string trimmer this week. Hope to get the video out soon.
Hi Sam. Greetings from the West of Scotland. Been good weather for a while now back to rain. How long have you had the Allett and what model is it?. I did a heavy scarification and my lawns are taking a long time to recover,but they are getting there. Another great video. I must Crack on. 😂
Hey Ray, where west of Scotland? I actually got married around Fort William, I love Scotland, we go as often as we can.
Waiting for recovery after scarifying is very testing, but it feels so great when the lawn bounces back and looks so awesome! Great job mate!
Can you use a pre-emergent in your country?
Unfortunately not, pretty much nothing is legal for home owners to use. I think mostly since a lot of people use it the wrong way, use too much of it etc, so it causes damage to the environment. I think it would be fine if you use it according to the manufacturers instructions.
Hi Sam from Norway , i have little worse lawn than yours as i seeded in mid of May .
I am beginer in this field and wondering when to fee to my red fescue turf and secondly have lots of weeds ( spread all over along grass ) what do you suggest to control that .
Hey Mate, In Norway you have a fertilizer called Trim Plenrens, It contains herbicides with the fertilizer. Since it is legal and sold in Norway then I would use, just follow the instructions on the bag and you will be just fine, almost all weeds will disappear with that stuff and you will fertilize the lawn at the same time.
Thanks Sam for the reply . Yes plenrens is quite popular here , due to its high demand it was short in the market too .
As i said i have very new grass and plenrens should not be used in that early stage , (its mentioned in its labell too ).
I am thinking to apply it in coming spring . For the time being i am planing to not use any herbicides , will just pull the weeds and seed grass in place with top deessing , as its quite rainy weather now a days and soils is very moist so hopefully it will ease my work and thicken the lawn .
This is the plan for time being . 😊
Hey, what mower do u use?
Hey mate, I use an Allett LIberty 43
Hei, hvor kjøpte du rotorklipperen til makitaen? link? Har maken, men har kun tråd til denne.
Tjena, köpte den hos en lokal järnhandel i Stockholm. Jag skulle faktiskt inte rekommendera att köpa en, inte värt pengarna helt ärligt. En vanlig trimmer funkar lika bra och kostar 1/5.
Flott, takk for feedback👍 fortsett med supre plenvideoer😊
I don't know if I would do grass if I cant use herbicides. Don't understand why you guys can't use them.
Hey Stefan, well it is a bit more challenging for sure, but in the end, if it´s bad for the environment or for other animals and insects I think that is more important than people having a weed free lawn to be honest. But I think my lawn usually is very weed free and nice, so it is possible to get to that point without herbicides :)
@@SamsLawn I get it but commercial farming is the problem, not homeowners trying to get weed free lawns. Bees and things don't really go in lawns anyway what do I know.
I did try to control poa annua without herbicides. If you go around and pick the seed heads as soon as they form you can put a dent into it but if you git a lot its at of work. Poa trivialis is close to impossible to get rid of without killing it 30 times. Straight up vinegar will kill just about anything, if you can find the 6% one that's even faster.
You can dig it out, get some sod and pach it if you can find something close to the color you got. A lot of the sod around here got weeds so I don't know.
@@StefanKolev-oh5hz I agree, you can put a dent into it, but it always feels like a losing battle :D