If your losing matches you should look at the character you are losing to and ask yourself what can you do better at getting your moves and set up. If Jin is the one your losing to then take a week off your main character and study Jin play, Jin, and see how Jin players play and you will learn from that. But not everyone plays the same way so be open to all sorts of Jin players
You’re talking to K wiss? Lol man he plays Jin as well, those are tips level ‘oh if youre bad at something go practice it’ its like, hes fighting these characters for years in numerous games, knowledge is not really the problem😀
@savage-stan0729 This I call bs on. Are you saying Changbang didn't know what he was doing here? Red and above Ling mains are obsessed with planning in matches. The only issue is reading her if your against her, even as Ling because she has too many options!
@@ire80east46 I have planning a lot but let me tell you when my move activate heat really I have no idea if I’m gonna sweep him, or just conserve the heat etc and I’m Bushin almost Tekken king
Hwoarang in the thumbnail like, "How do I say I don't like two particular Chinese people without sounding racist?" Ling's db2 is silly. You really shouldn't be able to make an unseeable low that forces crouch, high crushes, and leads to a mix-up, essentially, safe. Joka as The Joker. He's embraced his villain role. "Finish it, you coward!" - Demon Lord K-Wiss as he faces defeat with all the defiance 18:06 - 18:10 Well, that was a robbery. 21:02 - 21:30 "Grand finals are cancelled, go home!" - Tekken 8 Bro, does Hwoarang have *any* mids that reliably hit Ling in AOP and don't put him at risk of getting blown up?
@@AlexToti No I mean generally if your character has a hopkick. We already know hwo is suffering in this matchup. I guess he could uf1+2 out of crouch since throws are also now an answer to parries and only a complete psycho would duck after getting their low blocked the first time. It's not a safe low like it was in tekken 7 you have to play a mind game on block now.
I just wish my Hwoarang was this good. I am mid at best with him. He is such a technical character and has so many launchers that it is hard to keep track of them.
You really do have to learn the match up. Ofc you can't SS ling's f214 cuz it's used for counterplay on SS just like you tried to counterplay ling's f212 or else. But at least I'm glad you know learned SS Aop will duck some of your lows instead of you just saying stuff like "I did a low" or "How?"
All this being said, the Ling mains you & other pro's are complaining in matches against are God tier specialists. Changbang, Yoredz etc - most Lings can't do what they do in these matchups - so wouldn't just say they're carried
@insomniackiller1 Makes sense! Still extremely hard/rare to play her at this level and that point can't be overlooked. Also these players whined about her till she got her wings clipped in T7. Kinda feel it's their karma. Should've dealt with her when she was just annoying, now she really is a problem 🙊
Disingenuous to couch the knee discussion as people only saying he needed to learn the matchup. It was more nuanced, it’s a new game and all match ups change a bit, that was one point. Another is he advocates for other peoples characters to get nerfed, but not his. And lastly the way top players hero worship knee or arslan etc is cringe. They’re good players but are beatable by other good plays (like you can beat them, not me! lol)
I'm referring to the people that just said learn the MU, I didn't say that's what the whole discussion was about even though most of it was of a similar vein. Also as far as I see he's only advocating for characters to get nerfed, that need to get nerfed i.e. Ling, Azucena etc. This isn't hero worship, when someone CLEARLY doesn't know what they're talking about and are trying to school the person who does know there is clearly one side most of us will be on
@@K-Wiss Well said in the reply. I only wish you had explicated this in the video. Your videos are so good, if you took the time to explore legitimate nuances of discussion and thoughts, you would have more content to share and make your videos even better, IMHO. Thanks for the great work, keep it up.
Alt f4 lings, even playing against her a single round makes me want to stop playing Tekken for good, Ling players can deal with it and play one of the other 30 characters. Don't have this much anger towards any other character, drag and feng mildy annoy me, Azucena is silly but I cannot stand playing against Ling. I've thought of picking up the character myself to learn the matchup better, but it feels dumb to play her in ranked when I refuse to play against her myself. That and learning the matchup is pointless since even if you learn her gimmicks she's still the best character in the game lmao, now you can manage a 40% winrate against her instead of 10%
Just say you don’t know how to play against Hwoarang and don’t want to learn how to. Your only comments are just crying about Hwoarang, please do something better with your free time other than watching characters you don’t like
whenever u beat a bad matchup as hwoarang u always feel like gojo in his enlightenment phase
I ALONE AM THE ONE WHO CAN BEAT LING XIAOYU! *loses 5 minutes later*
@@K-Wiss *jumping from xiaoyu to a drag* IT JUST NEVER ENDS..
“Just learn the matchup”… It be hella smartasses playing this game 😭🤦🏾♂️
If your losing matches you should look at the character you are losing to and ask yourself what can you do better at getting your moves and set up. If Jin is the one your losing to then take a week off your main character and study Jin play, Jin, and see how Jin players play and you will learn from that. But not everyone plays the same way so be open to all sorts of Jin players
You’re talking to K wiss? Lol man he plays Jin as well, those are tips level ‘oh if youre bad at something go practice it’ its like, hes fighting these characters for years in numerous games, knowledge is not really the problem😀
@@martinmonroe7082 He's not talking to kwiss. He was answering the question that was on the screen for the general public.
I got Jin to high blue and Hwoarang is main and hes on purple.
There are OP characters its okay to acknowledge that.
K-Wiss didn't crash out like this when the game was released he was so happy
20:12 “WEEEHEEEHEEYY!” of victory.
Also about the list of nerf and buffs ! What do you think of Reina’s state in the game ?
xiaoyu is a difficult matchup for literally every other character lmao
Including Xiaoyu! we don't know wtf the other Ling is doing - which makes us extra random 😅
Even the Xiaoyu don’t know what they gonna do so you can’t know either
@savage-stan0729 This I call bs on. Are you saying Changbang didn't know what he was doing here? Red and above Ling mains are obsessed with planning in matches. The only issue is reading her if your against her, even as Ling because she has too many options!
@@ire80east46 I have planning a lot but let me tell you when my move activate heat really I have no idea if I’m gonna sweep him, or just conserve the heat etc and I’m Bushin almost Tekken king
@@savage-stan0729 so you're a Ling main also!
Sick Hwoarang Naruto custom!😮😮
Hwoarang in the thumbnail like, "How do I say I don't like two particular Chinese people without sounding racist?"
Ling's db2 is silly. You really shouldn't be able to make an unseeable low that forces crouch, high crushes, and leads to a mix-up, essentially, safe.
Joka as The Joker. He's embraced his villain role.
"Finish it, you coward!" - Demon Lord K-Wiss as he faces defeat with all the defiance
18:06 - 18:10 Well, that was a robbery.
21:02 - 21:30 "Grand finals are cancelled, go home!" - Tekken 8
Bro, does Hwoarang have *any* mids that reliably hit Ling in AOP and don't put him at risk of getting blown up?
RFF FF3, but too slow at close range
@@92JinKazama She can actually go under that one too :)
just hopkick if you think she'll parry
@@vanadlehyde3600Hwo’s hopkicks are in his flamingo stances. Can’t just throw them out.
@@AlexToti No I mean generally if your character has a hopkick. We already know hwo is suffering in this matchup. I guess he could uf1+2 out of crouch since throws are also now an answer to parries and only a complete psycho would duck after getting their low blocked the first time. It's not a safe low like it was in tekken 7 you have to play a mind game on block now.
I mean Ling and Feng are difficult matchups against every character, not just Hwo
I just wish my Hwoarang was this good. I am mid at best with him. He is such a technical character and has so many launchers that it is hard to keep track of them.
8:42 xDDDD
THAT NARUTO SKIN IS GAS LMAO
It’s funny that you said you’d get rid of heat burst because it’s reliably been my best tool against Hwoarang so far 😭😭
Its only good against him cos his heat/heat smash is terrible
Why does Xiaoyu get a launching throw? Just why?
Learn the matchup is crazy until they fight a Reina and don't know when it's yo turn
Learning Feng as well, Horwang let me down too many times 😅
Wheres the top of that list now kwiss?
“Just learn the matchup”
Just git gud”
Listen this isnt dark souls
You really do have to learn the match up. Ofc you can't SS ling's f214 cuz it's used for counterplay on SS just like you tried to counterplay ling's f212 or else. But at least I'm glad you know learned SS Aop will duck some of your lows instead of you just saying stuff like "I did a low" or "How?"
So i’m the only Hwo that struggles against Reina? 😩😩
Xiaoyu's grab to combo is just too much.
He does? Just mash...
Just block
@@davideventili2881 Then mash harder.
@@NarcoticDimension if you lose to mashers it's your fault
@@davideventili2881 I agree
Bro mashing with hwoa will only get you so far 😭
All this being said, the Ling mains you & other pro's are complaining in matches against are God tier specialists. Changbang, Yoredz etc - most Lings can't do what they do in these matchups - so wouldn't just say they're carried
It's all relative though. I think the complaint is that if 2 players of the Sama caliber face of, the Ling player is going to win.
@insomniackiller1 Makes sense! Still extremely hard/rare to play her at this level and that point can't be overlooked. Also these players whined about her till she got her wings clipped in T7. Kinda feel it's their karma. Should've dealt with her when she was just annoying, now she really is a problem 🙊
fucked up in the crib downplaying hwoarang
I’m convinced people don’t even know what downplaying is at this point
@@K-Wiss I swear I swear
Disingenuous to couch the knee discussion as people only saying he needed to learn the matchup. It was more nuanced, it’s a new game and all match ups change a bit, that was one point. Another is he advocates for other peoples characters to get nerfed, but not his. And lastly the way top players hero worship knee or arslan etc is cringe. They’re good players but are beatable by other good plays (like you can beat them, not me! lol)
I'm referring to the people that just said learn the MU, I didn't say that's what the whole discussion was about even though most of it was of a similar vein. Also as far as I see he's only advocating for characters to get nerfed, that need to get nerfed i.e. Ling, Azucena etc. This isn't hero worship, when someone CLEARLY doesn't know what they're talking about and are trying to school the person who does know there is clearly one side most of us will be on
@@K-Wiss Well said in the reply. I only wish you had explicated this in the video. Your videos are so good, if you took the time to explore legitimate nuances of discussion and thoughts, you would have more content to share and make your videos even better, IMHO. Thanks for the great work, keep it up.
Alt f4 lings, even playing against her a single round makes me want to stop playing Tekken for good, Ling players can deal with it and play one of the other 30 characters. Don't have this much anger towards any other character, drag and feng mildy annoy me, Azucena is silly but I cannot stand playing against Ling. I've thought of picking up the character myself to learn the matchup better, but it feels dumb to play her in ranked when I refuse to play against her myself. That and learning the matchup is pointless since even if you learn her gimmicks she's still the best character in the game lmao, now you can manage a 40% winrate against her instead of 10%
Hwoarang players crying about "difficult match ups" ... LOOOOOOOOLLLLL
Tell me you're orange ranks without telling me you're orange ranks. Good one buddy
@@insomniackiller1tell me you're first dan without telling me you're first dan. Good one buddy
Benjamin I get hwoarang has his cheap moves but Xiaoyu is just on a different level of cheap
@@thewaythetruthandthelife2445 you mean "tons of cheap moves", right ? lol
Imagine using a knowledge check + spam + gimmick character, and then complaining about matchups. Just stream another game at this point my brother.
Just say you don’t know how to play against Hwoarang and don’t want to learn how to. Your only comments are just crying about Hwoarang, please do something better with your free time other than watching characters you don’t like
Is this comment sarcasm?
This guy doesn't have a crouch button
LOL right back at you stop whining about characters that beat your ass to pulp@@K-Wiss
Post nut clarity update:
Maybe i shouldn't be salty with internet strangers over video game characters. Point taken @K-Wiss