Yes another great video, it’s great how you & Papa Tebbz talk, work & plan things out, both becoming ambassadors to the sport and getting more spectators involved via these videos and of course being a great driver. You both deserve every racing title wins you enter. 🏁🏴 LGC 🏴🏁
On my fwd I've raced always run 1/4 inch toe out and it helps with the Ackerman effect which aloud the inside wheel to turn more which also create more inside drag aiding to turn right more efficiently..... But more toe you run in or out create drag which isn't what you want down the straights. That's what I've learned and picked up on over the years.
Sounds about right to me, toe in is definitely less stable in the corner so toe out is the way to go but not too much. What your saying about the drag makes a lot for sense, it would probably help push the back end round as you go in to the corner
I'm not sure what your rules are on suspension geometry but when you scale the car,turn to full lock as per cornering to see if and how much weight jacking your getting as all your set up requirements are for corner entry mid corner and exit speed. Scaling the car with wheels straight is OK but if your caster, camber,Ackerman changes are altering your cross,side weight when cornering then you will be chasing your tails constantly. Love the vlogs Watching from Western Australia
We scale it straight to get a starting point that we normally start with. At the track we dial it in using spacers. Then when it’s right you hardly have to steer. It turns as you brake and rotates as you throttle out of the corner. It’s an interesting subject and thanks for your input 👍
Both my uncle (stock rods) and my dad (saloon stock cars) tried all ways and found tow out was best for effort on steering, and handled best, neutral and toe in just made them really hard to throw in to the bends and hard to steer
Toe out,of course, about 5mm. You get more Ackerman effect and the car is easier to steer it to the corner🙂 Also more caster effect allot on steering inputs. Greetings from Ernie (58yrs old btw)🤪
@@fredtebbz thanks,Fred👍 You can also try more caster, gives more stability on the straights, but very heavy to steer 💪 like a go-kart(if that makes sense) I like your videos,and respect to you Fred 👊( I'm father of 2sons)😉
On the Superstox, inside front had a bit of tow out to help initial turn in, it isn't much - couple of degree's - in the wet it was a little more to help stop push - FWD might have different settings??
@@fredtebbz I see, had it in my mind that FWD toe in slightly, as both front wheels pulling together straighten out? Anyhooo, keep pedalling lads, reminds me hugely of when my dad and I in the garage on the Super every night it seemed for over 13 years, if I added all my years racing - 1984 to 2024 - Karting - 1300 Stox - Superstox - Karting - RC Racing (now I am old!)
Yes another great video, it’s great how you & Papa Tebbz talk, work & plan things out, both becoming ambassadors to the sport and getting more spectators involved via these videos and of course being a great driver. You both deserve every racing title wins you enter.
🏁🏴 LGC 🏴🏁
Thanks Paul, much appreciated 😎
On my fwd I've raced always run 1/4 inch toe out and it helps with the Ackerman effect which aloud the inside wheel to turn more which also create more inside drag aiding to turn right more efficiently..... But more toe you run in or out create drag which isn't what you want down the straights. That's what I've learned and picked up on over the years.
Sounds about right to me, toe in is definitely less stable in the corner so toe out is the way to go but not too much.
What your saying about the drag makes a lot for sense, it would probably help push the back end round as you go in to the corner
I'm not sure what your rules are on suspension geometry but when you scale the car,turn to full lock as per cornering to see if and how much weight jacking your getting as all your set up requirements are for corner entry mid corner and exit speed.
Scaling the car with wheels straight is OK but if your caster, camber,Ackerman changes are altering your cross,side weight when cornering then you will be chasing your tails constantly.
Love the vlogs
Watching from Western Australia
We scale it straight to get a starting point that we normally start with. At the track we dial it in using spacers. Then when it’s right you hardly have to steer. It turns as you brake and rotates as you throttle out of the corner.
It’s an interesting subject and thanks for your input 👍
Great vid from Team Tebbz. Great to see some of Jacks stuff as well. 👍👍👍
Thanks mate
As the norm from Team Tebbz great view as ever.👌👍
another great weekly ,good team work. LGC.
great to see you working together, looks like Jack has a small one !!!!!! radiator that is 🤣🤣
Very small 😂
Glad theres a weekly this week!!! Mint as usual
Did you and pappa tebbz help build the champ 604s Adam?
Yes we did mate
@fredtebbz so good seeing how u all help each other out love to see a complete build vid when u build another
in the junior bangers I run a slight toe out as it can give the front right a little more angle going in.
Agreed, that’s pretty much what I’ve done forever
@@fredtebbz also if you bend a wheel in anyway if you bend in it could be worse than bending out from experience !
Both my uncle (stock rods) and my dad (saloon stock cars) tried all ways and found tow out was best for effort on steering, and handled best, neutral and toe in just made them really hard to throw in to the bends and hard to steer
Thanks Martin, it’s the same for FWD and RWD then
@@fredtebbz it might be different for you guys and your driving styles, best thing is to try each way in a practice session and see how you get on
Toe out 1/4 inch usually mate, nice vid awaits part 2
Agreed mate
Gett up tebbz boyyyyyy
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Tebbz Racing
I’ve found in the bangers if you got toe in on you outside makes roll over itself and make it handle like a pig.
Same for us mate, they push on a bit
Great watch again TT
Thanks
Toe out,of course, about 5mm.
You get more Ackerman effect and
the car is easier to steer it to the corner🙂
Also more caster effect allot on steering inputs.
Greetings from Ernie (58yrs old btw)🤪
Thanks mate, well explained
The over 50 club know best 😂
@@fredtebbz thanks,Fred👍
You can also try more caster, gives more stability on the straights, but very heavy to steer 💪 like a go-kart(if that makes sense)
I like your videos,and respect to you Fred 👊( I'm father of 2sons)😉
tebbz the GOAT
😂 thanks mate, you’ll give him a big head
@@fredtebbz cant forget about the goat Papa Tebbz too
Hi, Ever thought of putting spot lights on the back of your van? Cheers.
We have one, but
Could definitly do with a few more on there
On the Superstox, inside front had a bit of tow out to help initial turn in, it isn't much - couple of degree's - in the wet it was a little more to help stop push - FWD might have different settings??
Not really mate, we go toe out too
@@fredtebbz I see, had it in my mind that FWD toe in slightly, as both front wheels pulling together straighten out? Anyhooo, keep pedalling lads, reminds me hugely of when my dad and I in the garage on the Super every night it seemed for over 13 years, if I added all my years racing - 1984 to 2024 - Karting - 1300 Stox - Superstox - Karting - RC Racing (now I am old!)
58 ! Papa Tebbz .... Top man
55 😂 don’t know where he got that from
Good stuff again team tebbz
Thanks Mark
Corsa looking smart tebba
Thanks 🤩
Toe out about 8mm it helps turn into the corner
I think you’re right, that’s what we have always done
Talking about toe in/out. Can you do a video on how to set a car up
I’ll speak to the boss, it would probably be more like a series 😂
always toe out.. 10mm ish
I think we all agreed mate
a good video as always and pappa tebbz helping Jack with his car and I'm looking forward to seeing the English championship video lgc let's go champ
Me to mate 😂