GG 💪 Thanks for trusting the build and for crediting me ! I like Hollow Radiance on Sion because it gives lot of HP but also because all his 4 spells are AOE. For Shen I noticed that the waveclear is way slower even with this item so you don't benefit as much (still decent and you're against AP anyway). Maybe you could cook negatron cloak into titanic and then phantom dancer for a better waveclear early with tiamat (slower spyke tho) then frozen gauntlet if you need armor or hullbreaker / wits end with your first negatron ? It all depends against what you play I like to build offensive items on tanks like this phantom dancer usually only against comps that have too much anti-tanks, to find more utility. If I'm against full AD ofc sunfire thornmail will have more value. The point is to not "overkill" resistances and become a menace in an unexpected way. People will not respect and ignore you because they see you as a tank but you're something else, with more DPS and a lot of mobility to be a play maker with less risk of being kited ! Good luck mister petu 🫡
I feel like wit's end would be more viable than phantom dancer if you are building negatron cloak? Shen doesn't have any ad scaling so it lowkey makes more sense
@@Kadziu1234Petu put a ward over the wall, as the Lee Sin player did not have a ward of their own to hop the wall with. So, by placing his own ward, he facilitated Lee Sin's snowball.
@@Kadziu1234 So, as a Lee Sin main here, what enriquechavez wants to say here is that Lee himself didn't have a ward available in order to jump on it ( ward-jump ), so xPetu playing Shen in that game has always dreamed of someone else doing what he did( Warding for his Lee Sin to ward jump! )
A large part of why I watch your videos isn't just because of the crazy item builds; it's also the positivity and excitement in your voice and gameplay. Really helps me remember the parts of League that I find really fun ( playing with your favorites, and experimenting with wacky stuff without people getting salty or hard inting )
Nah the „dorans klimge unterschied“ sounded so good with little accent for a german person (me). You heared that finnish and german are pretty similar sound wise.
Azir soldiers ignoring the shen W, Jax E and ninja tabi's passive is the most cringe thing about that champion by far. He's the only champion that just gets to auto attack regardless of anti auto-attack abilities and items
It made a lot more sense back when they didn't have his soldiers carry on hit effects. But now it can take players off guard if they aren't aware of the interaction.
@@BachDienstag Some dude called Mr. Olympus LoL made a few YT Shorts where he just goes over why Dorans Blade is so great in an angry german voice, and he shouts "Dorans Klinge Unterschied" (Doran's Blade Diff) when he gets a huge AA chunk. It went kinda viral within the Shen community and now everyone is hyping Doran's Blade lol
I love ur chill & the joy Shen (& League) brings to u. The only problem here in this vid is that, if it were a match of mine, I could do everything fine & swell, but my Renekton would not turn the fights around, the Shaco and Jayce would start camping me (not the Maokai), & Lee good early would fall off to us losing this. And everyone would blame the Shen mid with Phantom Dancer :v (((((((Does it mean I don't wanna try this out? No, I do. Or that this vid didn't make me wanna play Shen? It did lmao. Thanks, dude
I mean, I would not be able to play the early/mid with no armor ... then I'd either get dove/permacamped or asked to swap, losing gold and start to buy components that delayed my build... Then team would lose objective pressure... objectives in general... and all that while Renekton turned into a minion. /// I think I went too "personal experience" here lol hahhahaha But still... is this consistently viable? Or at least... can I randomly try it? How would u play it if Renekton straight up fed and couldn't win a single fight?
I think a generally good build for every game would be titanic->steraks->jak'sho. Good early/mid game build that'll also help you scale decently well into a late game front liner
i think this works better on sion because how much hp he accumulates in passive, so radiance and hull scale way better and the free hp allows leeway to get phantom. phantom doesnt benefit shen enough but thats just my opinion. i feel like if you just wanted the MS theres better options. even FoN would net better ms when stacked.
Phantom Dancer was the mathematically correct last defence item for pure tanks when it had a shield and a 12% damage reduction passive on it, even if you ignored the offensive stats. Those were just a bonus.
I'm not surprised, waaaaay back when Madreds Bloodrazor was a thing, it was amazing to build a Shen that shreds down enemies with ease and survives just as well
Im very new to lol, its like learning a new language to me since i grew up playing cod. But watching your gameplay is very refreshing and puts a smile on my face seeing how much fun youre having haha! Keep it up king! +1 sub/like
This reminds me when I used to take MS quintessences on Anivia so that I could catch people and/or get flashes for free with W mid to late game. You built damage until you could comfortably kill people with 1 or 2 rotation of abilities outside of tanks, then built for survivability in sunfire or warmog’s with my build.
PETU my guy, you dont need a higher rank, your busy practicing every item and strat until you successfully ascend to the status of Shen GOD. You WILL become in time, a supernatural cosmic power with mastery and domain, over the art of Shen. And then youl be Challenger with ANY Shen build.
a few videos ago, you said something about heartsteel first item being the build used by the highest win-rate shen in euw; are you going to try that again/have you tried it recently?
Hey Petu. I was wondering at 3:27 what your item shop timers mean. FOBC 5:00-5:30 FHF 6:00-6:30 FSB 3:00-3:30 Edit. Maybe I figured it out. First Outer Blast Cone? I think I see on the wiki it's 9:00-9:30 right now. Maybe it was earlier before. First Honey Fruit and First Scrying Orb seem to be correct with timers.
It's probably way better on Sion because of his higher base AD, inherently higher tankiness, and the passive synergy. It's already pretty easy to stick to targets as Shen with Q and E so I don't think you need the movespeed as much, and also Shen has a much shorter and burstier combat pattern that benefits more from weaving in and out, plus he scales worse and generally has to pivot into more of a supporting tank as opposed to a damage dealer.
My personal favorite thing to get on Shen is Statikk Shiv. Lightning Shen might be a dead meme, but Shiv provides a surprisingly good mix of stats, burst, and wave clear to help Shen during the lane phase against shove-heavy laners.
i enjoy so much your gameplay and game sense that i'd love to see you play dota 2, you would love the phasing of the game also there is so many objectives and cool characters, hope you play it one day and thank you again for the content you bring us ! you are the best !
What about lich bane as a MS alternative? You also ge ability haste and ap that isn't the worst option for Shen And on top of that sheen that aids more explosive trade pattern Especially when vs heavy AP where Iceborn is suboptimal
ok...i just did unending into PD on malph. wow did it feel good. inspired a few others in the game to try the items. one a shen lol. the two items are both overlooked.. kinda strong
PD, may be sleeper OP coming into the meta. I play a lot of kayles, and there is now a PD on hit tank build all the top OTPs are playing. I don't know if it's relevant for Shen, but with PD and warmogs, you get a TONE of bonus movement speed with the Warmog 10% & the PD MS.
I am emerald shen noob but I keep building Titanic then hollow radiance and deadmans plate. I like Titanic first just bc it feels more forgiving. Once you have Titanic and hollow you can just one shot waves which is deadly as someone needs to match you then you can just ult in. I might try phantom as a 4th but I also have been trying bork and kraken slayer into some matchups.
Yesterday I went through items to try to create a MS build for tanks for this very reason. Celerity and nimbus cloak with the 2% ms rune on phase rush, with items that give you MS without the need to auto first was the idea. 🍗
If you're going frozen heart and the only rapid attacker is lucian you should take into account the way his abilities and passive works he probably wont have his attacks slowed significantly because he can animation cancel to weave autos between abilities
tbh i liked the build but i have done it on sion and its really fun and works and u can smash towers easy when u split push thank you and i will try it on shen :D keep doing more videos please.!
Question to my fellow Shens, do you think its a bug that Katarina R which proccs onhit effects does not get blocked by shen W? I think at least the onhit effects should be blocked if not the complete damage.
@@Nebulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatrue but you have to hold your E. im just about the logic. they recently made a change because something let onhit effects through even though it should be blocked. just wondering why this isnt the case with kata, she is strong enough without her ult.
@@Wadenbeisser24 RespectDodge is a property that is applied to (most) basic attacks as well as some abilities. This makes them able to be dodged or blocked. Kat's R does not have that property.
Pretty sure the phantom dancer build work on sion cause of hull breaker. With that item you have a tendency to build attack speed anyway to proc its passive reliably and it also stack on minions, so the moment you reach an enemy tower you pretty much have it fully stacked and just crush enemy base unless they send multiple people to stop you. The way you play shen is significantly different than the sion split pushing play style so I don’t think it can be translated at all.😢 maybe idk just an opinion.
The math behind it is every 5 attack you have chance to do double dmg, if you reach taget the movement speed and attack speed makes you out scale their dmg + if you go My build with frizen gauntlet into phantom dancer they are dead if you reach them. In a game with good RNG you critt 2 times out of 3 attacks while the empowered q slaps them
GG 💪 Thanks for trusting the build and for crediting me !
I like Hollow Radiance on Sion because it gives lot of HP but also because all his 4 spells are AOE.
For Shen I noticed that the waveclear is way slower even with this item so you don't benefit as much (still decent and you're against AP anyway). Maybe you could cook negatron cloak into titanic and then phantom dancer for a better waveclear early with tiamat (slower spyke tho) then frozen gauntlet if you need armor or hullbreaker / wits end with your first negatron ? It all depends against what you play
I like to build offensive items on tanks like this phantom dancer usually only against comps that have too much anti-tanks, to find more utility.
If I'm against full AD ofc sunfire thornmail will have more value. The point is to not "overkill" resistances and become a menace in an unexpected way. People will not respect and ignore you because they see you as a tank but you're something else, with more DPS and a lot of mobility to be a play maker with less risk of being kited !
Good luck mister petu 🫡
Mon dieu collab Petu et Digger ce serait incroyable
23:25 I was listening to the video in the background and, man, your name is quite dangerous
I feel like wit's end would be more viable than phantom dancer if you are building negatron cloak? Shen doesn't have any ad scaling so it lowkey makes more sense
@@rivy1683remember he plays sion on this build, the attack speed and ad is very useful on sion, especially midlane.
@@rivy1683also it’s because of the move speed that we get phantom
That assisted ward hop was awesome!
The excitement for his action makes xpetu so sympathetic
7:06 that was sick
7:06 the assist ward hob is the most satisfying technology that I've seen in a while...
explain pls
Shen placed a ward for the Lee Sin so he could E to it.@@Kadziu1234
@@Kadziu1234Petu put a ward over the wall, as the Lee Sin player did not have a ward of their own to hop the wall with. So, by placing his own ward, he facilitated Lee Sin's snowball.
@@Kadziu1234 So, as a Lee Sin main here, what enriquechavez wants to say here is that Lee himself didn't have a ward available in order to jump on it ( ward-jump ), so xPetu playing Shen in that game has always dreamed of someone else doing what he did( Warding for his Lee Sin to ward jump! )
A large part of why I watch your videos isn't just because of the crazy item builds; it's also the positivity and excitement in your voice and gameplay. Really helps me remember the parts of League that I find really fun ( playing with your favorites, and experimenting with wacky stuff without people getting salty or hard inting )
shen mains challenge : trying not to creating new build ,Level:Impossible
Restrictions make creativity flow I guess
he's so smooth, our thic ninja boi
Nah the „dorans klimge unterschied“ sounded so good with little accent for a german person (me). You heared that finnish and german are pretty similar sound wise.
I was thinking exactly the same, as native German speaker. Love the accent.
1:59 HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID THE THING!! investing in this
4:50 wp on the speaking animation cancel. Got those words off so quick TRUELY the best shen
Azir soldiers ignoring the shen W, Jax E and ninja tabi's passive is the most cringe thing about that champion by far. He's the only champion that just gets to auto attack regardless of anti auto-attack abilities and items
True, although League treats Azir's W as ability, so you can proc your ap items
It made a lot more sense back when they didn't have his soldiers carry on hit effects. But now it can take players off guard if they aren't aware of the interaction.
Nilah
And teemo q so its all good
What about Zeri
Why does the sound cue for shens ulti sound like you're entering a Dark Souls boss fight?
cause its ashen shen if same series skin morde ults you then its legit a dark souls boss fight
It's from the ashenknight skin
bc thats the point of the skin line
A shame I missed out on the ashen skin, oh well, I guess Yellow Jacket will have to suffice ;)
Dorans klinge unterschied 😂😂❤ greetings from Austria, you got a fanbase down here too 🥰
Und Grüße aus Luxemburg 🙌🏼
The legendary bridge of Shenwardia
That assist ward for Lee was 200 iq team work! Forbidden technology for sure!
That ward placement was brilliant!
The phantom dancer gameplay looks so fun i want you to keep building it just to keep watching the TECHNOLOGY
"Just need to find the optimal build."
proceeds to buy phatom dancer 3 seconds later. 14:55
Chad shen player right there
Honor blitzcrank, dude was popping off
the dubstep ignite 🤣
Dorans Klinge Unterschied hehe
I‘ve heared that a few times now, where does it come from?
@@BachDienstag Some dude called Mr. Olympus LoL made a few YT Shorts where he just goes over why Dorans Blade is so great in an angry german voice, and he shouts "Dorans Klinge Unterschied" (Doran's Blade Diff) when he gets a huge AA chunk. It went kinda viral within the Shen community and now everyone is hyping Doran's Blade lol
@@Lodit24 Boom, passiveshield
7:22 the fact he was so happy tell us something about petu
He love league so much and he is a simple man
Thank you for the great videos.
I love ur chill & the joy Shen (& League) brings to u.
The only problem here in this vid is that, if it were a match of mine, I could do everything fine & swell, but my Renekton would not turn the fights around, the Shaco and Jayce would start camping me (not the Maokai), & Lee good early would fall off to us losing this. And everyone would blame the Shen mid with Phantom Dancer :v (((((((Does it mean I don't wanna try this out? No, I do. Or that this vid didn't make me wanna play Shen? It did lmao. Thanks, dude
I mean, I would not be able to play the early/mid with no armor ... then I'd either get dove/permacamped or asked to swap, losing gold and start to buy components that delayed my build... Then team would lose objective pressure... objectives in general... and all that while Renekton turned into a minion. /// I think I went too "personal experience" here lol hahhahaha But still... is this consistently viable? Or at least... can I randomly try it? How would u play it if Renekton straight up fed and couldn't win a single fight?
I think a generally good build for every game would be titanic->steraks->jak'sho.
Good early/mid game build that'll also help you scale decently well into a late game front liner
On shen? This doesn’t give you haste or movespeed, and titanic is so expensive for waveclear with zero resists on it
0:44 bro casually dodging while explaining the shop item
Loved the ward hop trick!
Question: Is the play not to sell Doran's shield at 19:00 for a sword? Or because you have a damage item is it better just to hold the shield?
i think this works better on sion because how much hp he accumulates in passive, so radiance and hull scale way better and the free hp allows leeway to get phantom. phantom doesnt benefit shen enough but thats just my opinion. i feel like if you just wanted the MS theres better options. even FoN would net better ms when stacked.
I love listening to your commentary, feels like slavoj zizek is teaching me League strats
"The Dorans KIinge Unterschied" where did that come from Imao
Phantom Dancer was the mathematically correct last defence item for pure tanks when it had a shield and a 12% damage reduction passive on it, even if you ignored the offensive stats. Those were just a bonus.
I'm not surprised, waaaaay back when Madreds Bloodrazor was a thing, it was amazing to build a Shen that shreds down enemies with ease and survives just as well
Im very new to lol, its like learning a new language to me since i grew up playing cod. But watching your gameplay is very refreshing and puts a smile on my face seeing how much fun youre having haha! Keep it up king! +1 sub/like
This reminds me when I used to take MS quintessences on Anivia so that I could catch people and/or get flashes for free with W mid to late game. You built damage until you could comfortably kill people with 1 or 2 rotation of abilities outside of tanks, then built for survivability in sunfire or warmog’s with my build.
PETU my guy, you dont need a higher rank, your busy practicing every item and strat until you successfully ascend to the status of Shen GOD.
You WILL become in time, a supernatural cosmic power with mastery and domain, over the art of Shen. And then youl be Challenger with ANY Shen build.
a few videos ago, you said something about heartsteel first item being the build used by the highest win-rate shen in euw; are you going to try that again/have you tried it recently?
i miss heartsteel being a good item on shen but no waveclear feels so bad
Have xPetu ever tried the Hextech Rocketbelt for the extended E range technology?
Every day a new technology. Truly we are spoiled
Hey Petu. I was wondering at 3:27 what your item shop timers mean.
FOBC 5:00-5:30
FHF 6:00-6:30
FSB 3:00-3:30
Edit. Maybe I figured it out. First Outer Blast Cone? I think I see on the wiki it's 9:00-9:30 right now. Maybe it was earlier before. First Honey Fruit and First Scrying Orb seem to be correct with timers.
That was *not* practice for Allen Iverson. That was a *game*.
He knows the unterschied!
Early gang! Let's go! I managed to climb to Plat with your Shen tips.
The positvity is what keeps me coming back. Shen is just the bonus.
I think you placed the ward so fast that even Lee thought it was his, otherwise he would have been spam pinging you in excitement lmao
Great gameplay my man. Well done to get that hard win despite a 4 vs 5 game.
It's probably way better on Sion because of his higher base AD, inherently higher tankiness, and the passive synergy. It's already pretty easy to stick to targets as Shen with Q and E so I don't think you need the movespeed as much, and also Shen has a much shorter and burstier combat pattern that benefits more from weaving in and out, plus he scales worse and generally has to pivot into more of a supporting tank as opposed to a damage dealer.
My personal favorite thing to get on Shen is Statikk Shiv. Lightning Shen might be a dead meme, but Shiv provides a surprisingly good mix of stats, burst, and wave clear to help Shen during the lane phase against shove-heavy laners.
i enjoy so much your gameplay and game sense that i'd love to see you play dota 2, you would love the phasing of the game also there is so many objectives and cool characters, hope you play it one day and thank you again for the content you bring us ! you are the best !
Shen stuffs are like bard stuffs : "yeah i took those because i like the colors"
But it manages to work somehow
Instantly trying the tech out, insta winning.
Ty as always Petu!
Trust you, Gigachad
I'm hungry and Petu has just cooked
1:59 the german caught me so off guard lmao
I respect the ward for Lee's W
man I'm loving the daily upload from petu
What about lich bane as a MS alternative?
You also ge ability haste and ap that isn't the worst option for Shen
And on top of that sheen that aids more explosive trade pattern
Especially when vs heavy AP where Iceborn is suboptimal
Question for you, why not Omen after Wardens?
Really good game! Nice one xPetu
ok...i just did unending into PD on malph. wow did it feel good. inspired a few others in the game to try the items. one a shen lol. the two items are both overlooked.. kinda strong
Hahahah bro I laughed out loud when you did the assist ward tech XD
PD, may be sleeper OP coming into the meta. I play a lot of kayles, and there is now a PD on hit tank build all the top OTPs are playing. I don't know if it's relevant for Shen, but with PD and warmogs, you get a TONE of bonus movement speed with the Warmog 10% & the PD MS.
I am emerald shen noob but I keep building Titanic then hollow radiance and deadmans plate. I like Titanic first just bc it feels more forgiving. Once you have Titanic and hollow you can just one shot waves which is deadly as someone needs to match you then you can just ult in. I might try phantom as a 4th but I also have been trying bork and kraken slayer into some matchups.
Never ask a woman her age
A man his salary
A shen player what the fuck he is building
Yesterday I went through items to try to create a MS build for tanks for this very reason. Celerity and nimbus cloak with the 2% ms rune on phase rush, with items that give you MS without the need to auto first was the idea. 🍗
If you're going frozen heart and the only rapid attacker is lucian you should take into account the way his abilities and passive works he probably wont have his attacks slowed significantly because he can animation cancel to weave autos between abilities
Reminds me of Season 2 Shen where you'd rush Ionic Spark and Force of Nature lol
Maybe try Trailblazer, after you ult your team can keep up with you?
lol, with this skin when your sword was outside the screen I found myself thinking a couple times you've been targeted by cait's ult.
Damn this Zeal technology brings me back to the Trinity Force Shen when it still had AP and Crit and Mana 👴
I love these videos Petu!
"Dorans Klinge Uterschied" diese kommentarsektion ist nun eigentum der bundesrepublik deutschland
I think you should take demolish and hullbreaker to actually have a similar impact as Sion while splitting
If you want sticking poeer and attack speed, wouldn't stride breaker be a better option?
23:14 Renekton is straight running it down. In which universe is that a serious TP
Please help. How is it possible , that Azir soldiers, stack Braum's passive, but cannot get blocked by Shen's W? Eternity question.
This Lee Sin was SMURFING dude
Dorans Klinge Unterschied is the most IMPORTANT thing on Shen
If you don't build the titanic hydra maybe replacing the phantom dancer by the Stridebreaker can be good ?
tbh i liked the build but i have done it on sion and its really fun and works and u can smash towers easy when u split push thank you and i will try it on shen :D keep doing more videos please.!
@ 7:07 LEGENDARY!!
7:04 the GOAT
2:00 ayooo I heard that german... pretty good :D
xPetu always finds new tech for us Shen mains
I can't believe you never mentioned the Ghosting, stopping minion block on a melee is kinda huge
this is something mundo players did a few seasons back when we ran conqueror instead of grasp
would it work with mundo ? I usually go heartsteal to sunfire or thornmail
Question to my fellow Shens, do you think its a bug that Katarina R which proccs onhit effects does not get blocked by shen W? I think at least the onhit effects should be blocked if not the complete damage.
Shen doesnt need his w to survive katarina r so its not that obnoxious
It states on the wiki that Death Lotus "will bypass effects that mitigate basic attacks." This also includes Jax, Nilah and Teemo.
@@ImPhen0nwiki is by fans though. im talking about the games inherent logic
@@Nebulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatrue but you have to hold your E. im just about the logic. they recently made a change because something let onhit effects through even though it should be blocked. just wondering why this isnt the case with kata, she is strong enough without her ult.
@@Wadenbeisser24 RespectDodge is a property that is applied to (most) basic attacks as well as some abilities. This makes them able to be dodged or blocked. Kat's R does not have that property.
Why not fleet instead of grasp? Azir it's a poke matchup like Vayne
the assist ward hop was a banger
Pretty sure the phantom dancer build work on sion cause of hull breaker. With that item you have a tendency to build attack speed anyway to proc its passive reliably and it also stack on minions, so the moment you reach an enemy tower you pretty much have it fully stacked and just crush enemy base unless they send multiple people to stop you. The way you play shen is significantly different than the sion split pushing play style so I don’t think it can be translated at all.😢 maybe idk just an opinion.
It's so weird imagining Petu actually verbally say ''ok bet''. Like... it shouldnt be legal, he's too classy, that damn Finn
The math behind it is every 5 attack you have chance to do double dmg, if you reach taget the movement speed and attack speed makes you out scale their dmg + if you go My build with frizen gauntlet into phantom dancer they are dead if you reach them. In a game with good RNG you critt 2 times out of 3 attacks while the empowered q slaps them
dorans klinge unterschied came very unexpected lol
"just need to find the optimal build and then i will improve my game play" *proceed to buy phantom dancer* sfofhseefh ahahah
please help me i am lost, why did he build frozen heart instead of randuins at towards the end of the game
You know if your running this build eclipse would be perfect or that item that heals you for auto attacks based on health.
That ward play was so clutch
are all your videos on main account?
love your calm voice btw
i was wondering if you saw that video and now that u said the thing i can die in peace
400th video lets goooo
Do you get chores on regular ashen shen or prestige?
funny.. I used to rush phantom dancer on old mundo.. the crit E was massive as well