The Jontay Porter Scandal and Its Implications for the NBA | The Ryen Russillo Podcast
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
- Ryen Russillo reacts to the news that Raptors player Jontay Porter is being investigated for gambling irregularities related to his own prop bets before he discusses what it means for the NBA.
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20 seconds into this segment I get a FanDuel commercial.
The leagues think they can market and advertise gambling 24/7 to all of us and players won’t eventually do it is preposterous. It’s actually sickening the amount of gambling ads we have to listen to in everyday life now.
Exactly bro. I'm sure the ad dollars are good, but what do they think will happen?
Besides, there are a lot of gambling addicts in the world. Watching sports for them is now like an alcoholic going to a bar.
Same in the PL dude, Ivan Toney was banned from playing due to old bets… whilst playing for a team who are sponsored by a betting company. It’s ridiculous.
It all happened in the Biden admin. Corruption at its finest.
FULL AGREE, ONCE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Are you talking about players gambling or players manipulating their stats for prop betting purposes?
Huge difference
It’s weird to act like all this advertising has no effect on fans and players. All sports content now is shoving these ads down our throats and there’s no way the players don’t notice it either. These companies wouldn’t advertise if it wasn’t effective. Of course that’s why more people are doing it.
Playing too good, Drug Test.
Playing too bad, Investigated for betting scandal.
It's the fan's fault.
This message brought to you by whatever sportsbook paid for this segment today.
Guy behind the camera pointing a gun at Ryen for this take
Except he's right. What's spectacularly stupid is any league allowing props on given players. It makes it INEVITABLE that some idiot is going to do precisely this. The only hint is the amount of bets placed on a obscure guy.
Now Russillo brings up salary (and it doesn't make sense for a guy making 450k to gamble. But what about blackmail/extortion?
What a bizarre take.
1-No one who is talking about the legalization of gambling or huge expansion of betting content/ads is saying DON'T blame the player. It's just "don't ONLY blame the player".
2-Tracking capabilities for the house have been there a long time. What's changed is how openly gambling is being promoted by the leagues and media because everyone, including Ryen and Bill, are getting rich off it.
Gambling should be legal but promoting it like all these leagues are is crazy. It should be like alcohol, weed or cigarettes: legal but no ads allowed.
It’s a take from someone who is getting paid by these industries. The ringer has partnerships with major betting companies. The second he said “gambling is fun for some” and then saying now it’s easier to get caught is basically an open statement that it’s always happened which defies the whole point of sports and watching this content
what? alcohol and weed and tobacco advertising is huge business
What?? Why? That’s ridiculous. If your job told you not to bet on sports games if you want to work there would you abstain? If you wanted the job of course you would. And if you decided to go and do it anyways and get caught then you wouldn’t expect ppl to deflect and say it’s not 100% your fault. I don’t get why ppl always make excuses for everything these days. It’s really kinda weird lol
Damage control lmao. How do you discuss this story and spend more time blaming the fans for speculating
get that Fanduel bag, Ryen!
Gambling is inherently addictive and one of the most deadly addictions. 1 In 5 pathological gambling addicts attempted suicide in an Ohio study in 2017. The marketing for gambling is just gross claiming it to be non-harmful or "fun"
No, never would there have been a bench player that had an over/under of 6 rebounds, his buddy bet the under and he just makes sure he only gets 5. That has never happened ever before, ten to fifteen times a season.
Wrong analogies: gambling is addictive, bet again and again and you lose sense of the risks it entails… until it is too late. Try once to jump in the lion’s cage and you’re done
That’s a terrible way to look at it or anything really. Gambling is no different than anything in life. They’re all fine in moderation or within your limits. Nobody is forcing you to partake, but millions of ppl who do enjoy it greatly and then carry on w/ their lives.
this segment was PAID lmao
With the explosion of the Russillo UA-cam page, can we get some full episodes on the platform? Love the podcast in all forms, but would love to be able to consume a full podcast on YT instead of having to jump back and forth from Apple to YT.
Instead of the analogy of the sign at the grand canyon or whatever, I think it's way more apt to say it's like having an open bar at work (while constantly being subjected to ads about how good it feels to drink). Yeah, not everyone's an alcoholic, but are you expecting NOBODY is going to abuse it? That's delusional.
And saying "well one guy made a stupid choice", sure, that's true, but it impacts the competitive integrity of the entire game. If the fans can't believe in that, everything collapses. And you know who makes LESS than Jontay Porter? Referees. Scorekeepers. Equipment managers or whoever who might be tempted to sell some tips. This is so much bigger than one guy's mistake and pretending like it is isn't doing anyone any favors except the gambling companies.
There is a difference between I bet you 100 bucks I can beat you at bowling or golf or even a video game (random dumb shit you're doing ever day anyway) and a gambling institution more specifically a Sports betting institution. I don't think players (or staff) in any sports should be gambling on any professional sport as it's far too tempting to want to make exceptions to the rules.
The strangest part to me is that his brother has a 180M contract 😂
I 4got.this makes more sense now. Hes set for life brother he can risk with betting
MPJ's brothers have been getting into hot waters. His lil brother is being sentenced next month. Older bro may never play in the NBA again. It has to be emotionally tough on him.
Prop bets dehumanize players and turn them into an object (gambling) fans love or hate depending on performance. Honestly not sure what that means in the long run, but I'm sure players are getting sick of jeers like, "Just one more assist!". As a fan of sports who doesn't gamble, I haven't appreciated this onslaught of player gambling stories in the last 5 years.
I Totally understand why youtube content creators and podcasters take the advertising money from gambling companies - it's EZ $$$ for an established sports analyst, and doesn't come with the RNG % risk. In Nevada they call gambling the 'stupid tax' - Gambling deserves a nickname that encapsulates emerging nature in this brave new world from coast to coast.
Why the hell is there prop bets available for Jontay porter. 😂
Because the betting companies want to make money on anything.
that just tells you how much money there is to be made from gambling
Darn near all of Sports media is sponsored by these Sports books. It's a systemic problem we will see the effects of for the next few decades if it doesn't start changing
Some tens of years ago there were widespread problems with gambling in Finish and Swedish second-tier football-games ("soccer") allegedly organized by gambling-consortiums from "south-east Asia. As a Swede it surprises me that anyone that far away would be interested in gambling on teams I would barely know exists. Clearly gamblers have too much money they're prepared to give away...
The NBA has nobody to blame but themselves. They made this bed they gotta lay in it. Idc What Jontay Porter did, its wrong but nobody would feel inclined to do it if every ad, commercial and sponsorship wasnt sports betting. Why NBA or anyone for that matter is acting surprised that there are players going to be dumb enough to indulge in the very thing these major sports leagues are openly and shamelessly promoting is beyond me. Jontay is responsible for his own actions, but these Major sports leagues need to get ahead of this before it gets worse. It doesnt matter how much there is to be made from the sponsorships (its a business so I understand), the integrity of the game is at risk, period. This looks bad for the NBA no matter how you slice it, because they're sulking in the irony.
You know that gamblings legal in plenty of places where this doesn’t happen, right?
@@deifiedtitanwhats your point
Very very clear Ryan is wildly biased when it comes to this subject because that was some politician level talking around the issue holy shit. Lets run down the list of what his completely scattered illogical points were in this video and connect the dots.
You couldnt even notice the player was in on a fix.
I dont feel sorry for any of the players caught in this.
This probably used to happen all the time we just catch them now (lmao)
Hmmmm very interesting point of view from Ryan here, and definitely consistent with how he talks about other issues right guys?
We knew this was gonna happen but I didn’t think it would happen this soon.
I bet those hit unders really made a dent in draftkings' pocket. I'm all in on bad players gambling illegally - the stories are just phenomenal. Keep it up!
Ryen hit it on the head how are so many people putting money on the 10th man on a team not in the playoffs this year. I had no idea too he was on the Raptors. Great job again by Ryen. Always love his breakdowns.
ramble, ramble, ramble. 12 minutes, nothing said. Wilbon, in 40 seconds, said it better: "don't tell me some dude named Johntay is the face of this problem. It's the networks and the leagues."
At least this gave him his 15 minutes of fame.
There are a lot of players that do this
They’ve done this forever. The league does it. The league has been rigging games forever. Everyone knows it in the league. It’s an open secret.
I think all the gambling content is a problem in general and has a trashy feel.
It wouldn't necessarily matter if he was getting rebounds or not if that wasn't the prop bet that the money was on. He only has to fail in the category that people have agreed to bet on if it turns out to be true. There's no way that this could have happened without his participation. I'm sure he's going to claim that he may have told somebody that he wasn't feeling well but I believe that it goes past that. If you've seen him online then you would know that is really into money making schemes. This was not a good one.
What a awful fkn take, and its not just Ryen. Weird how all the media guys are all rowing the same way on this one
To think these methods of tracking didnt exist just a few years ago is laughable, & to sit there and see the exponential rise is players getting busted gambling & claim it isn't alarming is a joke
Did ohtani pay his friends debt or was the money stolen? We've head both and it doesnt add up
Jontay is a fringe NBA player, why is he not playing through a simple illness? And how come it's the games he's seeing an increase in his under props that he so happens to be leaving? Its suspicious, and calling out fans for questioning something suspicious is in itself suspicious
But of course Ryen, Cowherd, MiddleKauff, Wright etc,. Are all sponsored by different gambling companies
Based on coach Unseld’s comments, we know that players and coaches are contacted by gamblers. I’m curious what processes pro sports leagues have in place for their players to report these things
When you look at how the NBA swept the Donaghy scandal under the rug, you reap what you sow. It is absolutely foolish to embrace the gambling revenue without knowing that this was inevitable. How does the NBA regain some semblance of integrity with this kind of incident, the discrepancy of Laker free throws, and Lebron's PED allegations?
I just don’t understand all the hate in the comments.
Ryen and bill make money off of it cause they are a sports podcast. Of course FanDuel will pay them for advertising. I doubt there is many bar advertising on the Christian channels. If the players want to make money off of gambling advertisement then I would suggest them retire and make a great sports content following.
So, people are upset at online sports books for this? It is 100% porters fault if he is actually guilty haha
what an embarrassment. love this podcast but to duck and dodge the real point here is ludicrous. he should have just not discussed it at all instead of releasing this empty nonsense. just take your gambling money and stay away from the topic if you’re gonna pretend like you don’t understand what’s going on
Gotta love the cope from Ryen and the shilling. We know these gambling sites pay you for advertisements but you don't have to shill this fucking hard, dude.
Huh? Are we all supposed to blame Draftkings? Like the guy who messed up is the guy who deserves blame.
@@45heisman Certainly. But why are we in this situation anyway? The league is working with and promoting gambling sites.
I agree, this is a symptom of a larger situation going on with these sites where they can easily entice and convince sports fans to start gambling and keep them hooked.@@dimitrijetucovic1307
and will continue to ruin young adults every year @@dimitrijetucovic1307
Advertising gambling is fine where it’s now really scary is that any asshole can bet on their phone; the ease of access is the issue. Also pushing gambling on phones is gonna really impact young adult males (18-25).
Ryen. Be a leader and stop accepting gambling sponsorships. Be the adult in the room. Your integrity here is blatantly in question, as is every sports media outlet and as we are now seeing, the actual games. It’s time to get this off broadcasts and networks.
Tony was already shaving points in 94'. Happy had bought him. This is not new.
Bro spent 3 minutes trying to make an analogy that he never finshed...lol but but comparing the heavy risks of gambling to jumping off a cliff is wild....
Yikes, this is a bad look for Ryen and the ringer..
So the NBA can rig games but players can’t? Got it
Ryen the Shill
Comment section is as toxic as I thought it would be. Haha!
Michael Porter is 💯 in on the action.
Yeah, he'd definitely risk his spot on a championship team and 200 million contract for some betting action 🥴🥴🥴
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 Ohtani makes 500 million and still felt like he needed the action.
Comment.
got his ass
I'm not with most of these comments, but I really think he's short selling the real concerns people have around gambling addiction. Clearly it's not as simple as people throwing themselves into a canyon because there aren't any protections and no one develops a gambling addiction because they want to. I get the point he's making but this is a very ignorant way to talk about this subject
there's a difference between betting in general and being apart of a gambling scheme to which not just your team but literally yourself are directly involved...
if Jontay kept it to his fan duel parlays on the NFL or other sports then it would have been no issue
you have such a childish take ryen. shame on you. how reductive can someone be? the problem is the corporations that are getting people hooked on this and the politicians that take their lobbying money. so distasteful. also i got an mgm ad on this video. shameeeee
ik a lot of you degens watching this video gamble yourself, in reality, none of this should be promoted advertised or sponsored.