Debt is political: Why wealth flows from poor to rich
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- How does the structure of the international financial system cause a drain of wealth from the poor to the rich? Political economists Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson discuss the politics of debt.
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Crazy how ignoring their own rules occurs so often when it conflicts with imperialist goals.
the era is now a "weird"period
The fact that debt is a political tool is what makes war a racket.
"War is a Racket" by General Smedley Butler exposed the infancy of the military Industrial complex. That was WW1... Look where we are today. Best $10 book in Amazon
@@tedtan6449~ It was to his book that my comment was a reference.
@@menudobucket9837 We are called to raise the awareness, thank you. It's expected a catastrophic crash wipes out pensions, and people will wake up to this nightmare. There was a silent recession in 2020.
Historical market crash happen in October, yet here we are in August and the Stock market has shown an ominous global prelude to a collapse. The collapse will likely happen just after the November election. Everything is so manipulated.
The closest thing u guys got to Smedley is Scott Ritter…protect te man at all cost when time comes
Does the author expound on any solution to pry power from the cold dead hands of the still breathing corpses that grip our collective leashes?
It’s a big payday loan racket, they overwhelm your future prospects with interest debt. You can never grow. Default on your debt and I’ll send the repo man come and get your resources.
Not so. Use the Trump Mantra. Trump Mantra :
How to avoid paying debit and get to keep your assets via the clever use of the bankruptcy laws. Can work for wealthy individuals, maybe not for countries.
And if you don't take the loan, they send another man to take your head and ensure the installation of someone who will do as he is told.
@@michaelknight5589 You become an asset, they own you, more profitable, suck'em dry. Mobsters took corporations, J.Edgar Hoover was Mary in a wig at the hoodlum parties - source, the book Super Mobsters $10 ebook.
Works every time,, one hundred and one countries so far 😮
you can't kick them out They own the TV 😮 and the bank. 😮
Credit Report: you'll never get a job or rent an apartment again with bad credit. Biggest scam ever.
Always delighted to listen to Michael Hudson and Radhika.
yeap, even though both of them are Conspiracy Theorists
Brave, Sincere and Brilliant economists of our era: Dr. Michael Hudson and Dr. Radhika Desai 👏 👍 🙏
love your sarcasm!
These are EXCELLENT educational programs, clearly explaining the predatory practices of "the west "
Thank you.
If “give credit where credit is due” is the natural law justice, we cannot but call the debt-based system a historical crime of the century.
Thank you Radhika and Michael!
YES! Another excellent program. Thank you.
Thank you for this enlightening discussion on debt disaster.
Castro was correct the 3rd world at those high interest debt at 40% had already paid the entire debt bond back .
@kp6215
The financial economy is based on interest is the problem. Get rid of Interest (Riba) and 90% of world will be debt free very quickly.
Capitalism is good when the system is not run by greedy, selfish people and has zero interest, but with reasonable profit margins/fees added to the input costs.
Consumerism/Materialistic desires of the majority of newer generations that do not think about saving any of their wages so end up poor every week after clubbing/smoking/drinking. Older generation made sure they saved some before they used any leftover for leisure.
These explain why Islam forbids any transactions involving interest:
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@@5pointview717 Zero interest?! What are you, an anti-semite?!
@@5pointview717capitalism is forcing people to be greedy, capitalism without greed cannot exist.
@@thanasis-_- on point
@@thanasis-_- I do agree in majority of cases Capitalism is created by and run by greedy people.
Socialism is the balance between
Capitalism/Corporate and Communism/Government (State) owned systems to provide what is best for the people which is what Islam promotes. Capitalism is making reasonable profits, without interest/tax and extortionate prices for goods and services while Education, Health, Housing, Survival Food, Military Defence is State provided funded by GDP, Zakat and Jizya so is equally provided to all citizens or slightly more to those in dire need (sick, poverty, orphans, unemployed) until they no longer are in dire need. Islam teaches us it is duty of children/relatives to look after elderly so no need for Care Homes or Pensions as Children will feed and be caregivers.
Properly implemented Islamic Law (Sharia) would solve 90% of global problems but Satan of course will not allow that to happen so Islamophobes who hate Sharia and Bad/Evil 'Muslims' prevent it.
Sharia Law =
Personal Moral Guidance
Marital Guidance
Spiritual Guidance
Financial Guidance & Systems
Legal Guidance & Systems
and so much more.
Brush teeth, smile = Sharia
Mutual Peaceful Divorce = Sharia
No Forced Marriage = Sharia
Wash and Pray 5x a day = Sharia
Give Charity = Sharia
Care for Parents = Sharia
Don't cheat shoppers ie lie/pressure sell or overcharge customers = Sharia
Males must pay for All Females in blood family = Sharia.
Females can work and keep ALL the money = Sharia.
Murderer or gRapist will get Capital Punishment = Sharia.
Thief depending on reason = No/Less severe Punishment or Hand Chopped off = Sharia
Males and Females have right to Education = Sharia
No Mistresses, Prostitutes or Adultery = Sharia
No Sex before Marriage = Sharia
Biological Father is always Financially and all other ways responsible for their child until they reach adulthood = Sharia.
Abusive Marriage = Divorce is better for both and if need to report to police = Sharia
Criminal FAMILY/Other Known Person = Report them to police = Sharia.
Why would anyone hate all this?
I can't thank enough for all these great talks with Michael and Radhika that Ben brings to us.
Your presentation is very educational, beneficial and interesting. Thank you!
this info has more to do with your standard of living then a thing else. 🤠🇺🇸
Thank you for exposing the real reason of War in Ukraine!
Have more shows! I can't wait this long for my 2 favorite economist!
they are all over the place, you have to search these two out. they are in high demand you know..🤔.....but you won't see them on legacy media....truth economics is banned on all oligarchy funded media!..they prefere 🤡 economics with magik bonds from central bank hats and flowery money from private bank sleeves..🧤..😂
I love this channel
This is priceless. Not only did it explore the challenges, but put forth a solid strategy for the global majority to band together and end the hegemon once and for all. A storybook ending like this is unlikely, but isn't impossible either.
Until you take the City of London off the throne of the West, some of the East, and nearly ALL of the South all you're doing is replacing the US with another hegemon. US is just a finger puppet for Central European bankers trying to get rid of the last nation remaining which observes human rights to any extent at all- such that it still does.
Thank you Michael and Radhika for very informative program. Love to hear more of Michael’s thoughts on these issues as well.
Wow! Thank you for helping me to gain more insight.
This is a stunning episode, Radhika and Michael! My wife and I are learning so much from you both and look forward to your next "dollar-system" show that you suggested here. Thanks for all your work.
I never miss this show.
The government don't governed enough, meaning don't keeps the balance and just like a runaway diesel engine if you don't control the fuel ( the entrepreneurs) it will damage the engine ( healthy society)
Thank you Ben, Radhika, Michael, Paul and Zack for a fantastic show with a very germane topic!
Thumbs up before i watch, cuz your videos are that good.
Same.
Same 🎉
fantastic discussion as usual
The Wealthy give Hope to the Poor.
The Poor give oppurtunity to the Rich.
This allows the the Wealthy to subjugate the Poor.
And prevents the Poor from subjugating the Rich.
Those with the capacity to inflict harm...
Win. Wealth.
What could change this?
They win everything: wealth, freedom, power, and health. Because in the US today, wealth = health. The wealthy live an average of 10 years longer than the poor. It's not just money that's unevenly distributed. It's life itself.
@@user-mm4qv6vr5z a different system, completely re-evaluating the way we distribute our resources and services.
You meant to say “The poor gives the wealth to the rich.”
@@user-mm4qv6vr5z David Greaber's book Debt: The first 5000 years is great material on this subject. He explored the origins of debt and money in pre-history and the bronze and iron age. In my words, his findings were that debt is a normal human tool that we use to track value and maintain relationships with each other. But debt became weaponized when large scale warfare and large scale states became possible. If you make coins, tell people they represent *all* debt, then give your coins to your soldiers and tell people they need to give back a certain number of those coins every year as taxes, then people suddenly become very interested in giving your soldiers everything they need. Then the cycle of what he calls the military-coinage-slavery complex begins as described in the above comment.
Graeber argued that this process only slowed with the rise of spiritual religions; post-roman Christianity and Islam in the west, which told people in no uncertain terms that being a slaver/proto-capitalist was bound to lead to bad spiritual fates. This put a massive damper on the whole thing, leading to the "Dark Ages", which were "Dark" because there was little incentive to keep financial records, and lack of administrative states actually led to improvement in the lives of average people.
The cycle started again during the early industrial revolution, when technological progress led to insurmountable military advantages, and the spiritual religions transformed into dogmatic religions instead, beholden to earthly power structures. He argues that a "new enlightenment" is necessary and coming. Where we again realize that money is simply a value counter and not a value in and of itself. Systems which abuse valuation in this sense need to be held accountable by the new spiritual/political movement.
Great video!! I can recall when I was homeless and faced many things in life until $70,000 biweekly began rolling in and my life went from a homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!
Hello how do you make such biweekly??
I'm a born Christian and sometimes I feel so down of myself because of low finance but I still believe in God.
@@RockerseCaroline Maria Bravo, I really appreciate her efforts and transparency.
I remember giving her my first savings. $20000 and she opened a brokerage account for me it turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me.
My outlook on money changed when I realized someone making $200K can retire broke & someone making $80K can retire a millionaire. With the current market movement.
You're correct!! I make a lot of money without relying on the government. Investing in stocks and digital currencies is beneficial at this moment.
This was incredible. Have to rewatch as I repeatedly drifted into thinking a lot about some connection that just clicked, the kinda of “oh, ok, I am really beginning to understand everything being discussed here.” Incredibly instructive, insightful, a great piece of teaching
Thank you 😊
What a duo Professor lovely to watch and listen to ，thank you❤❤❤
Thank you for these. It makes perfect sense. Crystal clear. Economic hit men for poorer countries
I’ve been saying for some time now that some people use the word ‘predatory’ in connection with capitalism to create the illusion that there’s a form of capitalism that isn’t inherently predatory; but in fact, capitalism doesn’t even work without the opportunity for exploitation, which is the very nature of the predator: to take advantage of, exploit or prey upon the disadvantaged, the disabled, those in need of healthcare and the financially or otherwise vulnerably handicapped. This is the reason that what the United States calls competition is rightly perceived by China as confrontation; because where there is competition, there’s always a winner and a loser and quite often more than one loser. Rightly or wrongly, however, it certainly is NOT, nor can it be seen as an effort at cooperation. The capitalist system depends on a growing economy (or profit expansion) to work properly, but the banking system is based on the creation of debt which gets back to the predatory nature of capitalism. It just doesn’t work for the common everyday people. It only works for those who are already wealthy to funnel wealth from the bottom up.
Well said.
Here's my summary:
The morally bankrupt Social Darwinist Ideology is the ROOT of the mindset of Capitalists.
Excellent analysis. Excellent discussion. Please do keep the explanation coming in new episodes. It’s very timely. Very important. Very valuable. 🙏
Oh my Radhika! You didn't machinegun er er er at all in the beginning of the Session. ❤❤How wonderful you are!
THANK YOU. ALL SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS.
Great analysis guys thanks for the education😊
Do a show about Pakistan and their debts. Credit card are 22-25% that is unsecured my advice is as third world just say "NO" not paying .
Good information
*If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation*
Interesting, This is superb! Information, as a noob it gets quite difficult to handle all of this and staying informed is a major cause, how do you go about this are you a pro Investor?
I feel Investors should exercise caution with their exposure and.exercise caution when considering new investments, particularly during periods of inflation. It is advisable to seek guidance from a professional or a licensed expert in order to navigate this recession and achieve potential high yields
Prioritizing effective personal finance management holds greater significance than the sheer amount saved, irrespective of income source. Consulting a certified financial advisor can offer tailored strategies to optimize financial results by reducing expenses and enhancing income, regardless of whether it's earned through employment or investments.
Brian Humphery Services was my hope during the 'bear summer' last year. I made so many mistakes but also learned so much from it, and of course from Brian.
He is really a good investment advisor. Was privileged to attend some of his seminars.that's how I started my own crypto investment
Invaluable video. Thank you for the knowledge and dedication to serving and providing value to those of us who wish to be educated!!
Fascinating discussion, I learn so much from watching your videos, real history relating to what is happening today.
REMOVE ALL DEBT.
I've been reading Michaels books. I 'm fairly certain your idea is horrible.
Excellent discussion. Highly informative.
I wrote about a year ago that the US hubris, hegemony, domination of the world is on the precipice of downfall which would happen when its currency lost its value that is, no longer has dominance as a currency of settlement of international trade and international service payment. It seems that it is even closer than I thought before.
I look forward to your two new proposed topic assignments.
The War machine is a racket as Smedley Butler once said. Listening to both of you, the lending machine, likewise ! Looking at the graph showing Germany's lending rates at 0,8 and, Africa's with all it's minerals at 9,8 makes one wonder how on earth it's so damningly possible !
Thanks for your education and trying to help shift our consciousness! Love you two!
Great discussion from Michael and Radhika. International debt is such an important discussion to be known about.
1.A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind.
2. Books by Alexander DelMar on the history of the monetary system.
3. Tower of Basel
4. Wall Street and the Revolution (or something like that).
What a strange world we live in. Gladiator arena and circus.
Superimperialism; Trade Development and Foreign Debt. I don't know how these two books don't cover everything.
31:43 The US Dollar was taken off of the gold standard mainly because of the Vietnam War, when the US military spending was causing too much of its gold to be lost to France and Germany. I never until now made the connection between leaving the gold standard and the price of oil going up so much, but it makes sense regarding how the "petro dollar" became such a phenomenon. And of course, the USD replaced gold with US treasury bonds, which are linked to the growth of the US economy as a whole, but since the military-industrial complex takes up such a massive part of the economy itself, the world is ultimately paying for its own military encirclement. When wars are started, there's even more profit, and the whole system becomes self-reinforcing, even though this can't actually go on forever. Do I understand all this correctly?
As usual. Interest is the source of all evil.
👍🏾.....🎯
Please a show on Kenya and Nigeria.
At DUE DATE for Ukraine , they told those they owed , they had no money!! Humm! Last month - July --
Zelensky's wife
Purchased
" wait 4 it"
A BUGOTTI !!!
where did they get the money to buy one of the most expensive car in the world?
From U.S. taxpayers, that's who!!!!! Nobody with any conscience at all could support EVIL Ukraine, AND it's EVIL Mafia Thugs like Zelensky!!!!!
Blackrock runs merica
As well as rest of the world
And Blackstone. BlackRock also owns Biden and Blackstone owns Trump
Why??? Because of capitalist system...
The endgame of capitalism is an oligarchy.
and inflation is the actual mechanism that transfer the wealth from the poor to the rich.
How many times does Hudson have to repeat that THIS is NOT capitalism?????
with combination of electoral democracies that are corrupt (lobbyism = legal corruption) & leaders being voted by charm rather than actual competence and ethical examination, which can lead to populism and descend into fascism. many leaders in western electoral democracies show signs of narcissism and sociopathy. esp comparing to meritocracy, it is very apparent that the combination of capitalism and corrupt electoral democracies leads to this situation we currently see. there’s actually political systems that ensure high levels of moral integrity in the upper political leaders.
Money creation is not in the capitalist systems, it is in communist government systems. 😊
Tax the rich ❤
Go beyond tax the rich.
make the rich work for a living
The rich increase their wealth through the increase in the value of their equity ownership assets, Not work. Work is reserved for the masses of the poor people and downtrodden.
THE Tax curve will always be over the working class,,
if you have 10 ritch people for every 100,000 working class government steals more money from the larger number if people, BUT we could TAX Philanthropy 🤠🇺🇸 on Bill Gates and Warren Buffet Tax Dodgers 😁💯%
if our government wasn't fascist it would already be done. 😊
@@kussemeinkontThe rich are too smart for that.
Great video. Thank you to you both brilliant minds.
I love your channel. Always exposing the lies and corrupt ways of the west! Thank you!🙏
Love 😘
I feel like theres not much hope for our world 🤦
Priceless knowledge shared by these two economy masters. Thank you GER✊🏼
Loved your concepts and your show.
Very knowledgeable and spot on.
I only wonder if the government politicians are owned by the people of that nation or the foreign Puppet Masters?
Amazing video! How do we hold the predators accountable for this?
we are all in this global catastrophy but it starts with our daily lives.....simple things like not supporting cocacola monopoly products who control the global price (wto manipulation) of coca (in February there was a global windfall but no share croppers benefited from their increased market price of coca) that depreciates the price of coca for market benefit and stabilises money markets to gamble production costs when they are the ones (some countries are forced to produce and others prevented) who control markets that prevent the share cropper earning what they should in their own region. each country should have capital controls but global markets run by banks prevents this progressive action. it may just be me and you but it's the understanding and the perpetuation of that understanding that's necessary for change ....knowledge is power!
100:49, the proff Hudson hits this activity on the head...👍🏾
*Remember all their names.*
But as millions of individuals, maybe *we* the people should start thinking about a different strategy.
All around the world, millions of people have finally figured out they are on the wrong side of a *100-year old imperialist war in Asia, Africa and the ME,* but they are not as connected or organized like the outside meddlers have been for 100s of years. Right from the start of this conflict centuries ago, the meddlers' strategy has been *"divide and rule",* and it has been all about OIL and outside Western CONTROL over strategic locations on the map.
Counter strategy to "divide and rule": Start pulling the rug from underneath the feet of these eternal meddlers...
*Boycott:* Much simpler than trying to remember the long loooong lists of what _not_ to buy, and for whatever specific reasons, is to try and limit what one actually _does_ buy: *buy no-name brands from small companies (addresses usually on the labels), buy local foods (farmers markets), buy locally produced or handmade items, otherwise go slightly "over-regional," or buy fair trade wherever possible.*
It is not a perfect strategy, but don't get sidelined by the whiners/finger pointers who will invariably ALWAYS show up like clockwork, trying to ridicule or nag with their dumb _"...duh but your using a smartphone, but your using oil toooo"-gotcha style_ distractions. It is not MEANT to be "perfect"...
*Methodology:* JDI and make it a _longterm lifestyle,_ not just a short-term knee-jerk "trend," because of some or other upsetting event in the news. Just boycott ALL corporations, as far as personally convenient and possible, and always remember that even if only 75% of all the people on the planet only get it right about 75% of the time, on roughly 75% of everything they buy, it will finally make a massive difference for all the causes _you_ also value. Want to bring the boys home? Do you wish to limit military actions to becoming multinational, following the principles of international law only, and independent of any corporate "interests." Do you wish to contribute to end western imperialist actions and meddling all over the world? You wish to contribute a small share to forcing Israel into a negotiated peace process? Do you wish to give small companies a better chance in the dog-eat-dog capitalist world in your country?
Join up...
It's free.
Nobody will ask you to sign anything.
Only once there is an impact, there will be change: because the international cross-border politically influencial well-organized rich and powerfull only REALLY start caring when their pockets start hurting...
Start unravelling the connections between the globalist elites, international big business, and lobby-friendly Washington DC, by boycotting ALL big brands.
Do not delay. Start today. 👍👋
@@moviemakerjo6756 Spot on. 👍👍
Keep it up.
United *we* must force these elites to change.
I've been using the term "like a giant vacuum cleaner" for decades, but people still chant the "...but, but it'll twickle down sooooon..."
It’s price for “democracy”. Otherwise one cannot explain why all Democratic countries have same patterns: rich become richer, poor become poorer. Yet people in those countries would rather believe better having “democracy” than having better individual lives. They vote government that would spend money on anything (Ukraine, Israel, immigrants, coups in other countries and, democracy in other countries, human rights in other countries, freedom of speech in other countries, etc) but their own people.
Thanks!
Note Michael’s comment on debt and debt financing around the 1:07 mark. This segment is key to understanding how sovereign debt must be managed to prevent moral hazard and/or theft of a nation’s means of support and prosperity. This is key to destroying the arguments of neoliberal financing.
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Thank you for the video discussion Michael Hudson 👏 aka Dr Doom❤😂 and Radhika Desai.👏
Never miss these talks. 🎉
I hope you can get to do a show on private creditors too. I was recently reading Daniela Gabor writing about the Washington Consensus shifting to a Wall Street Consensus and how all these large private equity firms and the like have been working to shape international multilateral climate-related frameworks in their own interests, so it seems like private creditors are becoming a more and more important part of the overall picture. Thank you very much for your very informative videos and other work.
Outstanding, as always. A pleasure to receive your generous wisdom and information 🙏
Thanks a lot radhika and hudson
It’s always interesting to listen to these sessions. It’s one thing to learn theory, and another to put it in action and listening about these examples which is very enlightening especially when tied to todays events. Thank you.
US has over 800 military bases around the world and will not allow this system to collapse.
Great conversation
America is the biggest racketeer!!!
They are so patriotic, they even fight for a big black rock that's on another continent 🤑
For what does it profit a man if thou shall gain the whole world but loseth his soul?
Thank you from Chile
I would love a part 2. Inside buisness china had a video about the bond market and the lack of US dollars outside the US impacting the debtor nation's ability to pay.
Mr. Z also went ahead and initiated the transfer of practically all nationally-owned entities to the West via a massive Privatization campaign - there is (?was?) a whole Ukranian Gov't website dedicated to it - go and take a look. They are NOT waiting to buy it up.
And mineral rights are moot - just ask El Salvador about a certain international agency and law that allows the direct theft, by the West, of natural resources from any sovereign country...
Great topic
Love these discussions.
Make loans to own resources.
My question is simply this, Why were we (United States) so friendly with Russia during ww2 (providing them arms and tanks and industry) only after to become enemies? If you answer that question you pretty much figured out the political situation of the last fifty years.....
US was funding Nazi Germany' proxy war against USSR. And lended money to Russians also.It took Russia 70 years to pay the land lease off.How "friendly" is this?
Never been friendly.US financed Germany' proxy war against USSR and lended money to Russians also. It took Russia 70 years to pay off the land lease.
Desai is so hard to follow because she does not know what information to leave out. Hudson thankfully limits information to its essence.
the "Spanish" language speaking regions are smaller than the "Portuguese" language speaking region of SOUTH AMERICA, but yet South America is called "Latin" America. 🤔
NORTH AMERICA including "canada" is a predominately English speaking population, yet it's not called "English" America 🤔. The owners of the Corporation called the U.S. continuously call that Corporation America, it's NOT. America are the Land Masses last time we all checked NOT a (particular) "country". I could go on with the clarification, however, that's not what we're here for. This was an excellent presentation; I look forward to viewing the others, thanks guys so much for sharing the wisdom. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽
Radhika's proposal we can just appeal to a bankers good nature so the children can eat is wild ngl - a fantasy.
many cointries are forcing them too....forcing them out and enforcing sovereignty on them in their countries .....this has been 800 years, it won't happen over a year!....107:37..👍🏾
I see the light
Buen trabajo chavalones
What happened to the term "Underdevelopment" as used by Walter Rodney in describing the campaign of exploitation and economic strangulation that the West directed against Africa. To hear countries described as "Developing" suggests that such countries have command of their own futures, absent the kind of interference and intentional stunting of local development that any sovereign society would want. While some countries are more sovereign than others, "developing" sounds like an IMF term meant to prop up the myth of the generous West loaning money to help countries improve their standards of living, (only to see the loan receiving countries bungle everything through mismanagement and corruption. )
Reparation please
no, no reparación based in the same problems. they should keep what they stole and just get out of the countries they steal from.... like Mali cancelling contracts of french corporations so that Mali will develope their own resources for Malians based on a different economic idea....just get out!..47:30, the proff hudson regalis this effect of sovereignty...👍🏾
I’ve tried to subscribe to this channel multiple times lol
Banking is the true religion of the "stand in word for the Jews."
Great Books. I never knew any of it.
I like the debate guys.......Not much debate these days......Alot of conversations..........Not much debate.
1313 Ukraine's resources are worth more than the bonds, and the longer they can get Ukraine to keep warring, the fewer people to resist.
I love the humor of Genius’s…S.H.I.T. Hahaha GREAT!
Prof. Hudson:
Your friend, Prof. Wolff, believes that Gender is on the same level of importance - for discussion - as Class. I disagree 100%.
But I agree that DEBT is of the same importance as Class. Or we can even say:
They are interwoven.
Thank you both.
#LONGLIVERESISTANCE
I like their talks don’t get me wrong, but they have no chemistry together.
Great episode
The leader must not be the business man or the leader must not be allowed to involve national finance and economy (Taiwan Independence (fraud criminals) Tsai Ing-wen is the worst example, also being anti-constitution )