Jin Is The Strongest Character
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''No one cared who I was until I put on the hood''
-Tekken 4 Jin
😂😂😂😂
T3 and TTT Jin both were top tier...
@@zakillah9702 you missed they joke LOL
I was thinking about this one for some reason Lol
If I remove that hood, will you die?
The only limitation to Jin's insane movelist, is the player's limit.
Yeah the players skill is the only problem.
That's very true. It takes someone dedicated to Jin to make him a beast. That's why not a lot of players go for Jin cuz there are other characters that does what Jin does but with easier execution
@@patrickimperial579 because he excells in so many categories you need to have great knowloedge of the game, how to poke, how to pressure, how to keepout, how to whiff punish, how to space yourself. He has everything and to know everything truly takes dedication.
@@ovehaed yep exactly. being a Jin main myself, I know the struggle 😂
@@patrickimperial579 yeah like if you lose you always know you fucked up somewhere.
Forgot some important move.
Theres always a missing puzzle piece
*Tekken 4 Jin wants to know your location*
T4 Jin is coming for him
Wait, who's Jim?
@@SilverEye_7 Jim Raynor
@@SilverEye_7 That's what Aris calls Jin
@@SnakeInTheRain ohhhh okay thanks for the info bro, i've been also wondering why aris calls him jim lol
Jin put the hoodie back on and became Jin from the Block
@The King of Iron Fist LOL
@The King of Iron Fist don't be fooled by the buffs that he got🤣🤣
There is a reason why he keep saying POWER IS EVERYTHING
Well... i mean kazuya said it first.
*Parry* is everything
*F4* is everything
d4 is everything
@@sgr_sean can you please give me proofs? Because I couldn't find Kazuya saying that
Jin provides the biggest variety of a character you could ever play, with pretty much most if not 90% of his moves being useful in someway, you could always switch it up. But you have to fully understand his movelist.
So hes good, but hes extremely hard to learn. Like a beginner or even an intermediate would have a hard time using every tool jin has to his advantage all the time its pretty easy to suck with jin because of this.
True sometimes while i Play him and remember his moves i start to screw up when i played well a few second before
Luminethereploid lel salty jin hater incoming. Dude, jin has great tools but 100% without practice and character data you dont go anywhere. Ive played Jin since tt2, liked his character and it took me nearly 900 ranked games and 1 year of my time to get somewhere to overlord. I was a warrior pleb before I put time into doing wavedashes, electric combos and learning matchups. All characters have their weaknesses and strengths, and Jin is hardly invincible. All those great moves have their problems. F4 can be stepped, as well as his electric and hellsweep. His hellsweep is noticeably slower and thus more punishable. His jab strings can easily be interrupted and his stance cancels are all dead against generic df1.
From a kid’s perspective, im an average jin player (11 yrs btw)
Who is better at adapting Jin or Wei Feng?
Same could be said for Steve. Steve is better.
Ofc Nina has to get beaten in practice mode. You enjoy it that much? :P
She deserves it. i mean look at her dress, that thing looks like it a small fortune and it's ruined
@@ruikirisame1744 she wore it for a job that probably payd ten times the price of the dress!
@@ruikirisame1744 yup definitely deserved the beating coz that is anna's wedding dress and nina killed her soon to be husband.
@@ruikirisame1744 actually that's Anna's dress that was stolen by Nina lol
@@ranzudezuLRTC well I guess Nina deserves to get beat up even more now lol.
I find it fascinating that he's so good yet so hard to play. I very rarely see high level Jin players online
The best jin players are in world Tournaments.
Jin has always felt like family to me. Growing up with Tekken 3 and 5.
Why does Jin even have any other limbs. You could cut off both arms and his left leg and he'd still combo you for 60 dmg with his right leg.
If I try to imagine it. It can be true. Uf4 -> 4 -> f4 -> (in zen)4 by the wall
@@kryntor9713 CH df4 delayed hopkick 4 f4 zen 4 too
learned from hwaorang
@Rheinard I was think more along the line of a wallsplat
As a Jin Main I laughed so hard hahaha
TMM unable to perform the 100 dollar combo
TMM: ah..... Yes that covers it😂😂😂😂 literally relatable
He got the microdash on that cd3 ch combo though.
@@bsrkay5352 yeah.... Damn
ma favourite boi since ive played Tekken 3 for the 1st time on ps1.
He had lots of Kazuyas moves in Tekken 3 cos Kazuya was "dead". He was completely overhauled for Tekken 4.
Lower Power same goes for me. Payed him hours of hours in every tekken game since 3
Yes Jin has always been the chosen one. Finally this is getting public
TMM: Use Nina as practice dummy
Nina Fans: TRIGGERED!!!
Tmm is the one who is butthurt tho
Roger Jr. lmao true
@@rogerjr.6588 because all tmm needs is ninas sort of bad orbital to win😐😒😶
@@Fearful_Harmony1 hey I missed you so bad
@@rogerjr.6588 did you now😂
It brings tears to my eyes that my boy Jin finally got the buffs he deserved after all the years being doodoo *sniff
@Jumpton what do you mean? Gigas players got a buff when season 2 came out.
They don't have to play him anymore because Marduk is out. Marduk IS the buff.
@@Leadblast i mean, from t4 up to tt2 (i feel like he was good but incomplete on tt2) hes pretty meh, yeah he was kinda doo doo for quite a few years
@@nejenoob9679 What does incomplete mean? A bad character design is one with no flaws.
@@trentf4891 a character can have no flaws as long as it doesnt completely destroy the game. Jins lazer scrapper in t4 is a perfect example of a move that destroys the game, thats why he was in every top 8 more than once... current jin pretty much has no flaws but hes not broken.
And by incomplete i meant he felt quite clunky. I believe what made him feel more fluid was being able to use mental alertness out his key moves and combos. Using mental alertness out of f+4 and b+3 improved his fluidity and combo potential greatly. But thats just my opinion. I feel like now jin is what he was supposed to be since tekken 4.
Kyokushin Jin is *conditionally* the best character in the game: it all comes down to if you have the reflex to Parry or you don't.
Even crappy T5 Jin can wreck top tier characters by how well you Parry punish people.
I main Kyokushin Jin since T4 days.
T6 gave him Shun Masatsu (b2,1): nuff said.
TTT2 gave him an offensive approach with ZEN and made his f4 the constant threat it is today: the best Jin can psychologically terrorize great players with extreme CDS/ZEN cancels, extreme stuff.
The thing is current T7 Jin got enough buffs and tools to put him on high tier by himself without Parry included. Take Knee's Jin for example: he can't/won't Parry for sh*t (sometimes I get desperate watching Knee's Jin because of the tons of missed Parry opportunities), and still he will terrorize Capoeira as a proper counterpick. His Jin is solid despite lacking a Parry game, because of his sheer, undiluted Tekken fundamentals, second to none.
Literally been saying this for the past 6 months. Jin and Paul are the two best in the game. Their movelists are just more solid than the rest of the cast.
*power is everything*
Change my mind
Heihachi's death
I’ve played a lot of Tekken in my time. Jin is my main at Emperor. Easily, Jin is top tier. However, I would rather fight Jin than Geese, Akuma, or Eliza any day.
The thing with Jin is that he requires skill and is honest.
Same.
chrishin22 do you know how to ensure the electric I keep getting the normal hook fist what’s the difference in he inputs
@@tywalker620 When inputting f, N, d, df 2, hit 2 at the same time as df.
@I apologize for my so called aggressive kisses you must be out of your fucking mind if you think jin is honest LMAOOOOO.
A character that has that many good moves should be harder than lee, yet if you look at jin, besides his electric he doesn't have anything that's particularly "high execution" lol. I usually get "he has so many good moves that and he needs to remember to use them all. That's why he's hard." which is a fundamentally fully of shit argument. lets take Eliza for example since everyone likes complaining about he, Eliza doesn't have a single safe launching move, a lot of her moves are bad, she has limited counter hit launchers too, has the worst fireballs out of the 2D characters, her combo damage is below average at best, and a lot of her moves and strings are straight up bad to the point where she only has 5 good moves she can reliably use and even then these moves aren't particularly good either when compared to other characters, and top it all off she doesn't have good plus frame moves. So what makes Jin a more honest character or a harder character than Eliza? Eliza has harder combos than Jin if you actually want damage since you need to use multiple instant divekicks AND time them correctly, the only thing i can think of is her dive kick pressure and EVEN then her divekick pressure is SO over rated since its SO easy to deal with.
Now lets look at Geese. Geese doesn't have a single standing launch punish if he doesn't use bar, he doesn't have good lows besides his ss3 and d4 and even then these lows both of these are bad when u compare them to lows that Jin has for example lets compare Geeses d4 to Jins d/b+4, both lows counter hit launch but jins d/b+4 is not launch punishable while geeses d4 is launch punishable, Jins d/b+4 puts him in plus frames on hit and Geeses d4 puts him at -5 on hit, and while yes geese can cancel d4 into f3 (crouchable) or f1 on hit literally every option geese goes for after his f1 is punishable in one way or another. Geese also suffers from having limited counter hit tools although its not as bad as Elizas issue, and he doesnt have a good plus frame moves on block that arent high or dont require the use of bar (i think the only one he has is back 2 which is only +2 which isnt really good when you compared it to heihachi where he has moves that give him +7 on block). And finally Geeses parry is WAY harder than Jins parry that everyone glorifies for no reason when its literally the jin is pressing like 2 buttons.
but okay you can keep lying to yourself that jin is hard and honest just because he has an electric and that poor jin player have to remember all of his good moves :( yeah i bet gigas players are SO thankful that they dont have to deal with that issue.
He has outstanding pressure and mixups, and an answer for everything his opponent throws at him. Yep he's definitely top tier if not the best.
2nd best in the game, after Steve.
@@maninblackmetal Never, lol. Steve is amazing don't get me wrong, but he has a few SUBSTANTIAL weaknesses. He's by far not as good an allrounder as Jin or DJ. I'd say Steve is still top 5 or so but he doesn't even come close to Jin or DJ. He has too many flaws for that.
@@disruptor6550 steve is difficult to sidestep. Such BS moves
@@disruptor6550 What are these flaws?
@@SnakeFang Shit lows, shit launchers and relies soley on CH baits and mixups to do well Steve is A+ tier at best people who say hes SS tier are full of shit who dont even play him
Jin has a ton of great moves. His f+3 (safe 12 frame mid with decent range), b+4 (safe high crushing mid that wall splats) and u/f+3 (safe low crushing mid ch launcher) are also good moves that people often forget about.
By the way: Why is such a great character as Jin supposed to be harder to play as most of the character roster, especially "easy" characters like Lei, Negan or Kuma that are arguably much weaker overall? Which car would be easier to win a race with: a racing car or a garbage truck?
For real Jin can do anything in the game. Hard to step him also.
UFOByakuren exactly. Ggs lol
@UFOByakuren 4 is 13 f mate
Jin Kazama is one of my favorite Tekken characters! I love playing as him in this game. 😎
Yeah, Jin is too strong. Law must be the second strongest🤔?
Jin is the tekken hero since tekken 3 that's why jis is the best.
Tekken 3 jin was the true mishima 👌
It's nice to see Jin back in form after the Tekken 5 debacle. In T7 he became a full character. In TTT2 he was missing some fluidity but now he is complete. I'd say his drawbacks are not being as strong in point blank range and being quite execution heavy.
Jins combos are quite easy to perform apart from the $100 combo, if you watch Knee play Jin, he doesn't even do the $100 combo lol.
@@Autoswitched I disagree. Although his combos are not among the most difficult, they are above average in complexity. The CH f4 zen transition into a b3zen1 needs to be done very quickly or the opponent drops to the ground; same with the transition into block. The most damaging versions of his staples usually come with an electric, that needs to be done quickly and accurately or the opponent drops, like with the wr2->ewhf->bf213...
Also certain follow-ups after ch b3 require good timing.
@@bendakstarkiller1270 f4 into zen b3 isn't difficult, you have enough time to do a wave dash ws4 after the zen cancel, b3 should come natural. doing ewhf after ws2 and cd1 can be a bit tricky if you're not good at ewhf but he has easier similar damaging alternatives lol e.g delayed hopkick after ws2 etc.
@@Autoswitched 0bviously every combo becomes easier given enough practice. CBM pretty much never drops the microdash combos, no matter if online or at tournaments.
@@Luminethereploid I'm not saying he is defenseless in point blank range but he is hardly as strong as Hwoarang or Law. Magic 4 is high and whiff punishable; also leaves you at a disadvantage if blocked.
Jin is also a little bit like Steve, both have i13 counter hit launchers with fair range, and both have a long range CH launching mid which is i16.
So glad to know that my og main since TK3 is officially back in track.
Same here my guy.
I hope he will get the main role again.
Thing is, you see Jin in tournament but you don’t really see him win all too much. I believe I’ve seen Book win one of the tournaments Tekken World Tour but not a lot.
CherryberryMango does work with him but Tekken has great tornument diversity
Knee also used Jin once in a final against Eddy and won
Jin mains stand up, its been a long wait but were back on top. Don't nerf my boy Harada
They won't. Dudes top in the game yet yall STILL CAN'T MAKE TOP 8 consistently😂😂
this aged terribly.. he's been nerfed to hell now
Sad .... they did ... I main Jin too and I have wait long for this .
Want to make a correction for TMM. Jin's parry does NOT always guarantee a punish. You don't just get to parry anything and get 2,4. For example, hworangs backlash. Kazuya 1 2 4 3 , DVJ 1 2 3 4. Jin cannot punish any of those with even a jab if he parries the last hit of those strings, or the backlash. There's tons of other moves he can't punish after a parry, those are my first 3 that came to mind for this example.
Arsenalty:
Proudly laughs 😂😂😂
I waiting for Jin ranked matches :)
14:53 Not enough water in his lungs!
We need to get water in his lungs immediately
One of the hardest to play, yet unstoppable if played to perfection.
Jin is perfectly balanced as ALL things should be.
TeryonTheHuman you owe me some matches
-kos
@@WSY_FTW_PLOX i haven't touched tekken recently, been playing more mortal kombat than anything else but sure.
My fav character ever. Even in Tekken 5 😂
Yeah he's pretty trash in Tekken 5 but even in that game I'll happily use him though that's just because of loyalty more than anything.
I bet you also used savage sword a million times 😂
@@ajye8935 well it's not like I have an option.
Such a cool character can’t wait to see what they do with him in Tekken 8
Or season 3, even. Maybe we’ll get another overhaul to all characters like we did season 2. That would be nice, they need to nerf kazumi again.
@@The_Buff_Guy well
namco bandai watches this video and then buffs jin’s ff3, 24, and 1+2 range
oksa lepan LMAOOO NO PLS
Jin vs Devil Jin how would the fight go hmm thinking?
*Devil Jin uses force choke on Jin and brings him closer while doing Demonic girly laughs, Jin used holy water throws at devil Jinn destroys him then Jin peacefully tracks and try to kill Kazuya the end world is saved*
Imagine battle...
This is a possible battle in Jin's mind.
Never forget that everything is killable with karate (mishimas)
Being the best doesn't excuse being an edgy boi
He is the best *BECAUSE* he’s an edgy boi
@@TyrellYT HA you tell 'em
His dad was the OG edgy boi
@@DeadpoolX9 Ah yes, but you see, he left the angst behind after 18 and just focused on the edge
He's the good kind
The standing 4 buff was well implemented, it was so annoying before because we couldn't combo females and there were characters in the game not just females where you couldn't scare them for using it this uncluded akuma. Reverting the buff its not an option here, now he touches everyone for reckless play
Every single player you mentioned using Jin, has been using Jin since Tekken 5/6 as their main.
But since you guys want a nerf, here is some, reduce is damage output from standing 4 or Ch, change the animation for a backturned crumple stun it would help, so he could get his tradition b21, 4 combo for limited damage.
Reduce Range on B2
Slightly reduce the range of F4
but make his Zen 4 and d4 homing lows.
I like your suggestions i as jin main from tt2 i feel they do that
Fully agree with you about everything but for d4 being homing it would be too much. I main Jin and feel that he really got too buffed.
Reduce range on f4 and no way in absolute hell make zen 4 homing. Are you crazy. He gets enough utility of off f4 zen as it is lol
Yeet
He struggle in range
Nerf the range
Good one boys
I’ve been using him recently and barely found out that you can cancel his b1 by pressing F. The cancel gives him a dash as if you input ff so you can get like instant ff2s and ff3s. I noticed that even if opponents block the first b1 cancel to ff2 they press buttons so its likely you can catch them with a 2nd ff2. Jin is so damn good in this game lol
Dude he’s had that since Tekken 5. You are FIVE games late... smh
JinMasta lol i didnt use him till I picked up Tekken 7 and I’ve never fought anyone using Jin that seems to use that strategy. It works for me so oh well lol you learn something new everyday.
Esai Melendez It’s not a strategy. It’s common with Devil Jin and Jin to press a button after ff+2 because of the pushback. Most people jab and ff+2 will whiff punish them.
No yeah I know about that whiff punish. I’m talking about using the forward cancel after pressing b1. I don’t see many people do that. I know about using a regular ff2 on block to bait them I’m just talking about that instant ff2 after the b1 cancel.
@@esaimelendez4275 u can bait even harder by usimg b1 into electric and b1 into 1+2 for crazy damage
This is so true, when I dm Jin with Lee I cant seem to find any weaknesses while i get slaughtered by his good tools. He is good at everything.
illyrian eagle that’s actually not a bad matchup, you can fish for counter hit 4s. Df2s which launches standing without even counter hit. And lee has the option of throwing another 4 after the first, also if you are extremely confident, you can do 4,3,4 which can do at least 50 percent damage, and you can use his parry with good reflexes too. The trick is to control Jin’s pressure by making him hesitant by doing the right move at the right time. Extremely solid defense and counter hits.
Mike Hawk I know Lee lol. After a few 4s the Jin player usually realizes that he needs to calm down pressing buttons and thats when i fall. Df2 has such shit range and sometimes i cant even do my go to big damage combo cause the b2f doesnt connect after 4u3.
illyrian eagle oh I understand, but just because you have him reacting to your threat of counters hit, you are already slowing down the pace and controlling the pace somewhat and not getting completely steamrolled. You can do a mini dash after the df2 for the 4,u3 into b2 to connect, or just bb4 which does like the same damage in a full combo,
Mike Hawk id like to press more to make the pressure unbearable but the Jin player has dangerous ch tools like f4 and 4. Add hopkick and you see why i try to be defensive against him. That isnt good either cause then he freely does wavedash mixup. Hard finding a balance
In my eyes, Jin is *POTENTIALLY* the best character in the game. The problem with Jin does not lie in his toolkit, instead, the situation with a character like Jin is that you need to be able to have the muscle memory to remember AND utilize his bunch of good moves since most apply to different situations. Jin's gameplan isn't very straightforward because to execute a good gameplan you need to have matchup knowledge, good memory to remember the moves and some level of execution to make him work. It might sound easy when you put it like that. But for people with weak or even average fundamentals he can prove to be a challenge because he can feel overwhelming as opposed to Kazuya's very straightforward defensive or 50/50 playstyle (obviously high execution, but straightforward). Great video, big fan.
Very very true. Strongly agree
People saying you don't see Jin do well in tournaments: Knee won a tourny as mostly Jin, playing Jin in the grand final. CBM has placed very well a couple times in Season 2. Book won a tourny or two in Season 1.
Keep in mind 90% of high level Tekken 7 tournies have been won by JDCR/Saint/Qudans/Knee and they have legacy played their characters for years, just happen to be better than everyone else. I'm sure if they picked up Jin to main, which Knee has done (though he plays most of the roster), they'd find as much if not more success.
I've waiting around maybe 15 years for this day
Most likely an emo you try hard and do electrics from range 5 to look cool.
Epic Skillsofjay787b Tendo lol
2 out of 3 correct. Not emo, but nice tendo reference.
Am I tripping, or is it the longer Nina stands still the more she sways?
The loosey goosey
Sucks that you're just now discovering/addressing this. I've been complaining about how strong he is since day 1 of season 2. Literally fought this high level Jin and got counter hit launched like crazy, which caused me to rage and yell "Is there any move he has that doesn't counter hit launch?" Then the d4 buff was the cherry on top. His movelist is ridiculous and I'm glad someone's finally saying something about it. Ridiculous amount of normal and counter hit launchers, 4 of which are mid, so exactly like TMM said, good fucking luck in the 50/50.
Just returning here to reminisce the season 2 Jin. I really miss his crumpled counter hit standing 4, if only they could revert it back to the way it is. If they want to nerf the move, they could just nerf the damage.
You didn't mention his broken rage drive. Fast, strong damage, long range, good combo ender, will even put enemy in a wall combo. Not to mention it can be used as a launcher as well.
Conrad1274 also his rageart. It can be used as a 13f blockpunisher.
He can also use his rageart after parrying most moves outside of jabs or fast pokes.
Imagine a world where Jin can transform into devil like kazuya can
Six paths Mj that would be so sick
that would be op tho. i want it to happen too
Probably in Tekken 8.
F+3 is super underrated move for Jin, awesome mid poke to stop your opponent from dick jabbin.
I like his d/f +3 better, but his f+3 is a beast poking tool, I always used it for crouching ops, oddly.
damn good vid papaSWE. Hope the baby is well!!
These are the hard pressed weaknesses you will find in this character. This is off the top of my head. I will give more details if the chat allows me. Otherwise I may place it on reddit.
1. Range issues
2. Key move execution speed
3. Extremely vulnerable to high crushing or simple low jab
4. No pressure without high execution. Really in general.
5. Oki is pathetic
6. Power crush is pathetic
7. High crushing counter hit is basically does not exist.
8. From crouch game is extremely weak.
9. Panick moves are weak.
10. Stance moves do not offer any mix up value without conversion risk.
Even with all that Jin is not a bad character. He is good and in a tier list I would rank him at the bottom of A rank as of season 4. With that said you don't get any freebies with him. Winning and losing is 100% bases on the player skill at ALL levels of play. This cannot be said for most characters in this game. This is true because he is not a character the opponent needs to figure out. Meaning he is not gimmicky. Even his parry takes skill to use effectively. He is very honest and relies on the basics more than most characters. His most deceptive move would be the LLRK(hellsweep). But he does not get any openings based on frame advantage even on hit. And since his oki is trash, it doesn't present much of a threat on the ground either. Furthermore, because of his lack of high crushing momentum, inability to pit-bull without high execution and a combination of range and speed issues he is NOT BEGINNER FREINDLY.
Now let me get this out there because we are a bunch of parrots repeating the same thing. Everyone including myself use to say Jin is hard to use. JIN IS NOT HARD TO USE. He is hard to win with in this game. It's just hard to "close the deal" with him. Because if you don't do exactly what needs to be done at any point in a match then it will feel like you're trying to win with death by a thousand cuts. Because of this it feels like you need extensive knowledge of every character in the game before you can even use him. Yes, that means the entry fee for using Jīn is to get your behind HhhhhWhoooooped by everyone and their momma before getting ~ good...nope just ok with him. And then don't take any breaks and forget any strategies or not encounter a specific character for a long time because then the butt whoopin begins all over again. Yes, I'm speaking from experience. But then again don't complain about a character before doing your homework. Also don't listen to me or the MainManSWE. Go into rank and see how good he really is. I promise you we will see eye to eye after that.
Finally, to the MainManSWE. You have been using him a good bit lately and I believe you kind of re-educated yourself about the character. Simply put I feel you have said a lot of bs over the years about this character before really getting to know him. I would like to see after all of your experience a new video being truly honest about this character and your experience with him. I actually though abouts some more weaknesses while typing this. Jin has a lot of stance issues. But yall can figure that out yourselves. When you think about what Jin can do, please compare it to what other characters can do and you will notice that he is nowhere near the best of anything and some of the things you thought he was good with are only average if not below. Anyway, that's enough of my rant. Special shout out to spell checker.
Range issues? b2,1? f4? lol
@@destructo3457 Unless you plan on doing f4 the entire match you will find that he actually does struggle in the range department alot when compared to just about any character in the game. F4 is good but it's obviously not what it once was. Doing the same move over and over again anyway is an good why to get beat. B2,1 is useful but not powerful at all. It's only +2 on hit including counter hit so it doesn't even give you a throw. It's -9 on block leaving you in your opponents face and it has no counter hit properties at all which is weird. When it comes down to it you need to be good at wave dashing, WD canceling and getting creative. Jin doesn't have a single move, string or mechanic that can be "abused" and because he does not benefit very much from the dumb crushing system he is harder to win with then most characters. He is mainly about fundamentals and experience which can be boring and annoying. He is the ultimate "git gud or you lose" character. Well maybe besides Kazuya but that's debatable. Anyway, what are your thoughts? I would like to know more about this "l.o.l" and what make you say that.
@@alexanderwilliams4196 f4
@@destructo3457 F4 has good range but it goes without saying you cannot use it in every situation. When your opponent is at -5 and below F4 will get beat out. Even at high level play the disrespect that frequently occurs is funny to watch sometimes. With that said there are sooo many mashers that will not respect an i16 move when they are negative. When you are forced to accept this, you will have to use other moves or use movement first which is good for fundamentals. But you will see that ALOT of his move have really short range EVEN WHEN CLOSE! Here are a few moves: anything that starts with 1, 2, or 3. Df3, uf2, ff3 and obviously throws. These or CORE moves for just about any character. In comparison to most hop kicks Jin's is really short range. The mmswe made an armor king video emphasizing how crappy his hop kick is. But then he goes back and promotes it as something amazing that Jin can do...they literally have the same hop kick 🤨. When punishing with Jin you have to be meticulous with what you use. He has uf4, d3+4, wd1 and ewhf for launching punishing tools. I cannot tell you how many hop kicks I have missed, how many times d3+4 only clipped, how many time wd1 was straight up blocked and how many times I have dropped ewhf when going for a punish. At a certain point I had to ask myself is it really good to have so many niche tools or would it have been better to have a wind god fist that still launched if I made a mistake. I admit I make mistake as we all do but it feels like there is no forgiveness with Jin and you have to be a machine to play him properly sometime. But weirdly when you are successful with him it feels really rewarding.
To think that he was my old main.
Jin was always my first pick after Lars and Dragunov In T6 and TTT2, time really does fly.
Rest in peperoni
3rd pick?
He is a perfect fighter to say, not tooo fast, not tooo slow,not fully aerial phoenix and even not completely limited to ground, best thing about him is only he has a perfect balance between consistency/fluidity of combos and power pack kicks and punches, he is the only player who can play defensive and offensive play simultaneously
I'm still mad that there's no 100% combos for Jin ever since Season 2 was out already.
Malgu defeated CherryBerryMango with Law and He's the best Jin player in the world. Laws wall damage is a whole lot crazier than Jins😅.
Jin is hard to master, but when you master him he's invincible.
also
jin worst match up was law too
even cbm said that
Just picked him up in season 4 … and the hit of one electric is win for me … too stylish… loved his execution also. Very nice Tekken
No one complained about Jin before s2 but now he is the best character with a small buff? lol
ItsCdubs The buff may seem small to you but literally go back in the video and he shows why it makes his gameplay so much stronger. D,4 Helps with matchups 3,1 into Zen adds more mix and adds to combo potential. The change for Magic 4 is huge having the power of a 75+ damage combo with complete ease paired with the power of f,4 is amazing. Granted I'm not complaining because he's hard to utilize but like the video explaining how the buffs aren't really minor at all
Nobody gave a shit about f+4 in TTT2.
Wym ? Who cares bout s1 dude, nobody said shit about jin even after s2, s2 been out for months now and everybody started complaining bout Jin like 1 month ago ? It's just because CMB did pretty good with jin, ok he used f4 to much, but even the best Japanes player who is crazy with jin switched to Geese coz he couldn't win with jin any tournaments. I think main just got bested by an jin player or something like this happend to him idk tbh
Savvy pavvy No, last time I remember, as soon as Amigo won that Japanese tournament, everybody started going crazy.
@@Moruma I haven't heard anything bout Jin in the past months lol until CMB was doing pretty good with, even the commentators started counting the f4, but nvm everyone who is now hating jin cos some yt's are butthurt should stop playin tekken imo
As a Jin main I’m very happy with this video
This was on my birthday yesterday and I missed it? Ashamed of myself had a new meaning...
Steve Rogers=America's Ass
Jin Kazama=Tekken's Ass
I got scared when I saw destroyer for jin
Jin's CDS 2 also resets combos for additional damage apparently
Ali Miller you can ssl
I remember Jin when he first came to Tekken I tried to learn to play as him and I say I sucked tho once Tekken 4 came out tried him again his moves were so different it was like they balanced his fighting style.
In the beginning of tekken 4,jin changed his fighting style to karate
In tekken 3 he had the mishima mixed with kazama fighting style
After the addition of the global win percentage stats ive begun to notice that jin has a mostly negative percetage in almost all match ups.
This could use a bit more research on my part but literally every matchup i see has jin always on the bottom end, and its usually not close with percetages being off always 10% or more which is saying alot when every other characte seems to be much closer by comparison.
Begs the question if what people saying about jin really is true.
Strong on paper but hard to achieve in practice.
I was laughing my ass off when Blasted Salami called Lee S tier. Lol.
Just compare him to Jin and Lee looks like B tier.
Lee is s tier
Has just frame combos and launchers
Yeah ahah me too. I think he would say S-hit tier, ofc i joke but the poor Lee struggle so much in T7. If you find something good about him, another char do it much better,much easily and often with less risk, in conclusion try to master him is a pain.
@@MrOoh50 it's not about paper Lee has so many frame trap his s2 buff means he can pick ofg allowing new combos last character this happen to was Steve in T6 he when from b to s tier off one property change
14:52 also every other person playing online uses Jin. I play more Jins than probably any other match up.
On ps4 he was very popular in season 1 aswell now it's a bit absurd
Let’s not forget about his damn rage drive.. :/
Do you feel good when you hit people with the third or fourth hit?
No, you feel good when you rage drive/cancel for combos. He gets insane damage when used properly. Especially when it ends into a wall combo.
What the fuck was I thinking for trying to main Jin and Kazuya
I agree but at the same time Jin has so many tools that you require a great knowledge of execution, strategy and his tools and which situations for when to use them in order to truly use him to his maximum potential.
This is why even Koreans such as CherryBerryMango use mainly f4, ff3 and ewhf because they’re his best pressure tools but suffer many loses because they can’t use him to his full potential and only use certain moves that suit their play style
Right
this is actually hilarious now after f4 nerf and leroy
His okizeme is also very dangerous after your opponents are down back turned right at your feet or the 1+2 throw.
Yeah, just wondering when Kazuya will get his moveset rounded out like Devil Jin & Jin. I mean, he won both the 6th & 7th King of Iron Fist Tournaments now...
So will ya start playing jin now lol
No, because his son is gonna main Jin 🙃
Lore wise, Jin is the strongest pretty much beating everybody he fought. The only one draw him was Hwoarang and Lars is the only one who beaten him.
Against Lars he was holding back. Jin doesn’t take any fight seriously but Lars still so strong.
@@sohgode9905 It was pretty obvious
He’s the protagonist after all
God bless you. He is the main boy
سهيل خلف الله May Allah bless you too ❤️
The only main thing that is hard about playing Jin is trying to process which moves to use from his list in what moment. Cause like TMM said before in an old video, jin has fucking tools for almost any fucking situation
Jin's been my main since Tekken 4 and im glad someone else realized he's one of the best, if not the best character in the franchise
Jin has significant range issues, if the opponent is constantly getting away from range 0, Jin is forced to try to get in, or get stuck using a handful of moves. His hellsweep only does significant damage if you hit at close range
Use back 2 1 or use forwad 3
If it's AI playing Tekken 7, Jin is in the top 5 strongest characters for sure.
Thank God someone Mentioned this already, kept telling my friends he is stronger than the classic s tiers(Jack, Drag, DVJ)....Him along with Feng and maybe AmK is stronger than these characters especially DVJ. The only thing for me why people think DVJ is better cause Of the hellsweep(which Jin has too) and he is more simple to use. IDK Just my opinion
What's up guys MainManSWE here, hope you're doing great as always.
I tend to quote this exact line of him to muck around lol it's kind of charismatic.
6months later .... akuma was laughing in the corner all along
All i want is for Kazuya to have a poking mid.
Honestly he is solid af even without it, imo he is top tier. His d/f+4 and b+2 are decent enough to work with, and his f+4 is one of the best mids in the game, no doubt.
Krish Bhalla Heihachi is a better character than Kazuya. He has damage, f+4, three command grabs, good mids crushing lows, and ff+2. Where does that leave Kazuya?
@@Moruma Heihachi better than himself whatt
@@polishjerry8662 Comment fixed.
0:29
That's Tekken's ass right there!
I like how he’s beating up nina
Same
U forget the universal tekken panick move. The Hopekick.
No, he didn't. Watch the video again.
Why don't you try Anna? After all that drama with Nina players...
Anna players are self aware enough to know that they are stoners
@@aadliafiq that makes no sense
Roger Jr. Aris is disappointed.
@@rogerjr.6588 smh
Because she stinks
Tekken 4 Jins hoodie blue and white jacket was the best!
He was really good in ttt2, especially at the wall lol
He was good in T4, from behind, no but for real getting laser cannon-ed from behind was death, it was so annoying playing tekken 4, everyone I played with picked Jin, always a mirror match, all we could do was punish 2-4 with 2-4.
Still has to be a reason why LowHigh (and Mr Nicks) mention that LAW is the best player in the game, some may not be playing him to his potential (Malgu has to be pretty close but wont go into tournaments) I would like to see more LAW comparisons before we think Jin is the best...
im not sold on on it, i have no doubt hes S tier, but i still think a few characters are better, including Devil Jin
Eh, well he provided reasons and you didn't so for me I gotta give it to this dude
@TheMainManSWE, you didn't even have to mention Jin's parry options. Defense is just as good as offense. Great vid!
Jin mains suffered for years after tekken 4.
Finally his time to shine once more.
True (but he might get nerfed again :s)
you also forgot to mention that CH 4 can start a combo from 4 2,4 which somehow as a high picks up the opponent for a tailspin despite being near the ground.
this was his season 1 clunky ass combo, now he got some reliable shit that get abused against me all the time
It's useless tho, he gets better everything with other combo options from CH 4.
His 2,4 is still high high which will be crushed by any high crushing move, or even evasive one.
It's really an anomaly that this hits falling opponents
@@mshklh2099 it still works in season 2 though.
I agree with your statement.
Jin's strength only differs when who is using the controller 10/10
Jin and Bruce are the only characters I use.. My Main is Jin
THE KING OF FIGHTERS Rugal Stage Music in the background....