Im newbie here. I just started playing Hero but took to long to do all the quests. Im lv 57 right now. Do we have to do all the quests to level up fast? Thank you
❤ That is so true man, I play Maplestory on and off a couple of times now, I always comeback to it somehow. I guess becuz it's part of my childhood and it gives this nostalgic feelings that no other games could do.
I'm burning Illium and I think you are absolutely right in saying that it is a super powerful class. What I would say though is that battery management really isn't as bad as people think. You can create a mirrorimage of the battery, which effectively means you have 2 batteries out at once and therefore don't really have to move them. Couple that with your crystal gates + erda shower, you can full clear the biggest maps in the game with very little effort. I've been surprised at how strong it is, and would highly recommend people to give it a try, especially since the nodes are very straightforward as you mentioned.
I saw batteries and long text of how to use. It's what people drive away from the class. I tried it and I hate it. Not saying it's bad. I main a phantom and it's just completely different.
Im burning illium as well and got very surprised byvhow good it is with very little funding. As you said as well, battery management is super easy when you have your crystal Gates. I find it almost redundant as well to manually place your battery once you gotten some nodes because you can easily clear everything with just shooting straight at the mobs with the bouncing crystal. Funded illium doesnt even need to care about battery management 😅 Super lazy and fun class, SS tier for me
If you're not on perfect ping it can get annoying at times. Sometimes moving the ball doesnt register properly, or sometimes flying doesnt register properly or you dont drop when you actually let go of the key. Ball management can also be annoying sometimes with all the visual clutter, like Orianna in league of legends when you lose track of the ball and ult the air. Anyway those are just minor problems but ultimately illium has a unique playstyle that you have to like to enjoy. Just like Mihile who is indisputably a busted class, being literally immune 2/3 of the time, but the playstyle is unique and not for everyone
I love Illium and seeing more people playing him. i never had any issue with it, but then again i picked him up first when i came back to maple so i got used to that gameplay first.
AB has been in QoL jail for the past like… 7 years or so. They’ve largely only received minor buffs just to keep up and are seriously behind. My guess is that they were planned for a rework for a while but it kept getting pushed back, until now where 6th job takes priority.
Great tier list coppersan! Id personally put illium in ss tier though since its actually a lot easier to play than people expect and the dmg is absolutely cracked
Tyty coppersan for this news. I'm very happy now. However, I'm in hiatus, 3 years or more, probably 5 years at max. Good luck for Maplestory gaming. Happy mapling!
I remember you talking about making this video during your stream 😀. I was waiting for it. Thanks again for these videos, I've just recently gotten back into mushroom game hah and I've been binge watching. Cheers
Demon Avenger feels much better with our 160 hyper buff, it pretty much 1-shots everything every 8 sec without compromising mobility. The thing is our basic kit feels "old", attacking with a 3rd job skill always felt odd to me, I would much rather have 1 skill that upgrades until 4th job used for bossing/mobbing like dawn warrior, plus our 5ths aren't as flashy/simple to use as other classes.
Main is Drk and im currently hyperburning a Bowmaster as a bossing mule. Both are pretty fun but man, the bowmaster is like making me question where all that damage is coming from because its deleting mobs easily with just the event equips alone. Cant wait to move worlds and give her the abso/cra gear later on
I'm burning a Dawn Warrior and, oh boy. I'm farming mobs 20 levels higher than me and it's 1-2 shots at most with the event equips and no mesos spent. Will surely try burning a BM.
I also hyperburned my bowmaster, the 5th job skills are kinda boring but really good, you can always keep at least one active at all times or pop all of them once and melt bosses
All I will say about Xenon is that he really isnt as complicated as it might seem at first glance. The node requirements only matter for end game bossing. You can get away with 1 trio for a long time. The grinding on the class can be very lazy and the bossing is really nice. Has a short cooldown , personal bind, great burst, amazing mobility, AND great DPM. My only issue is the lack of a GOOD up-jump. You have to use your 2nd job skill as an upjump, but it doesn't go very high.
Love your content! Burning a mechanic in Savior and enjoying it so far I will say for tierlists, if full tiers are unused, probably better to condense (S-D instead of SS-F).
What level is your mechanic? I am levelling one non burning and I cannot get myself to do anything more than zakum with 200% exp because they're so boring and lackluster Q.Q
What really killed I/L for me was removing the Jump/Chain lightning method a few patches ago. Before that I could jump and attack. Now its feels so clunky and unfluent that I completely dropped that class. Don't know why they allways change stuff I really like.
As someone who's played both demons extensively, I'd easily rate DA higher than Slayer, in terms of both mobbing and bossing damage output. The only downside to Avenger is no real s, however they have constant damage reduction and consistent healing which allows them to leverage ruin force shield way better than Slayer. I appreciate that you preface the video by saying you've got no end game experience with most of the classes and it's your tier list so of course you may rate the classes as you want, but it just irks me a bit to see Mihile at SS while DA is B tier. And then people go and say the class is unpopular, or that it needs a rework which it's already gotten, or worse that it should be deleted/removed. It just feels like these tiers lists are based more on popularity than how good classes actually are. Anyway I apologize for the small rant. I genuinely enjoy these videos even though I may not give off that impression and while I agree with a huge part of the tier list, it would still be really interesting to watch a video or a series of videos where you possibly interview end game players and then do a tier list or per class guide based off their experience with their main class.
@@XaropinhoTheRat Yes, it's regarded as one of the best unfunded classes because it has high base dmg and is the highest IED+PDR reduction class in the game. The only issue is low crit chance, which can be fixed with legion/links.
I would be interested in seeing a similar tier list for boss mules, specifically up to lomien, maybe with some details about what is considered to be a good spot in terms of power for such a mule. As an aside, how much lower would blaster be placed if, like me, your hands don't work and you can't use bobbing and weaving and the relative animation cancels?
Demon Avenger deserves to be at least a tier higher imo. It's a slow burn class that doesnt feel good until 160, and then really really starts to shine in 5th job. It has multiple fmas, a skill similar to buccs spinning mobbing skill, and an offensive version of pally's invulnerability skill. The first 200 levels arent easy for sure, but their kit is so backloaded that it makes it worth imo
Hyper Burning a Shade right now in Reboot...had one ages ago in Scania. Loving the class for mobbing/bossing, with 5K ish legion it kills everything pretty fast with a nice and simple gameplay loop. Shade hype!
Lumi is SS tier for me. Never felt like it's that good but I am convinced after leveling to 240. Out of this world mobbing and really good burst window that basically comes every 30secs or less is freaking amazing.
I think you're missing two big factors when it comes to unpopular classes - utility and visuals. I say no one plays Thunderbreaker because why would they if there's Buccaneer that's better in every regard? If TBs had superior party skills (and not other way around) many more would pick them up. Because the playstyle looks fun. But if your damage is not topping the charts, you want your class to bring something else to the table, like a high impact party buff. And another point is style points. Maple is all about visuals. I like edgy classes and therefore Lara could be triple S and I wouldn't go anywhere near it. Some classes are very polarizing in that regard, and just won't be picked up by smaller or larger groups of players on principle.
guys I fell for the blaster meme I'm only lvl 202 and my hand hurts already. upjump uses ammo and I don't have enough keybinds on my keyboard. turn back before its too late
I find Kanna is basically the same even after Kishin nerf, removing spawn enhancement exchange for 10% exp only. Totally the same grind. I tried Kanna before and still the same grind and meso grind.
just from a quick watch of the video here's the rankings, i don't have them in order though, hopefully this helps some one ss ----- bowmaster bishop dawn warrior mihile night walker night lord hero buccaneer shadower huyoung s - dual blade eran mercedes paladin ice lightning fire poison wind archer marksman luminous a - zero battle mage illium kain dark knight adele demon slayer ark shade path finder lara corsair cannonneer blaster b - demon avenger angelic buster blaze wizard evan mechanic phantom wild hunter cadena beast tamer kaiser kinesis hayato thunder breaker xenon kanna d -- jett
I recently came back after years for this burning event. I made an Adele and got her to 202 and am not sure I like her all that much. Thinking about deleting her so I can Hyper Burn a Dawn Warrior instead. (Though it'd suck to lose her +10% Dmg Link Skill) But I'd rather Hyper Burn and main a different class.
Hey I am a new maplestory player. Would I struggle to do solo bossing as a Bishop? I don't really know how to find groups and stuff and like going at my own pace but I think the aesthetic of the bishop (and the dragon summon) really cool.
I kinda feel like you should make a separate list just for bossing mules. Some classes are great as mains, but kinda terrible as mules. NL is the best example probably. They are great as a main because they do a ton of damage all at once then can just focus on dodging, which is super handy for late-game bossing, but for early game bossing they're kinda garbage cause mules lean a lot more towards the DPM class side of things as you want to be able to clear like 10 bosses in a row in like 15mins and not wait 3 minutes between bosses to get your damage back otherwise you'll have a slow and painful clear or even occasionally fail a boss. For a main I'd definitely agree it's SS tier, but I'd honestly put in like C tier as a bossing mule. Kinesis has gotta be the easiest mule I've ever made as well. While their kit isn't super late-game friendly with only 1 on a long cooldown and a bunch of skills that require the boss to sit still in them, they just somehow obliterate early game bosses. I was using my hyper burn prepped lv 202 kinesis to clear like 860m worth of bosses (everything below Cpap) with no boost nodes and a few pieces of gear un-upgraded in only a little slower time than my lv 230 fully boosted fully upgraded demon slayer. Idk if they just overbuffed their damage to compensate for a clunky kit or what but it just feels kinda busted compared to most of my other 8 mules.
Every class is great as a main, you should chose a MAIN based on a tierlist tho, you should pick a main based on what you like to do and how you like to play, a tierlist for smt so personal like MAIN is not what ppl should ask for
Quick question.... If attack speed doesn't effect mage classes anymore. Why does blaze wizard have so many skills that give attack speed? Makes no sense to me why their skills were changed to compensate for that change. Word of fire gives +2 to atk speed Spell control gives +1 Burning conduit gives +1 Feel like if they were going to change attack speed to actual mages that would make sense, but seems to me blaze wizard, and battle mage should have still kept the benefit of attack speed atleast for their main atk skill(Orbital flame for blaze and final blow for bam)
The Resistance classes _need_ a remaster/revamp. Explorers and Cygnus Knights already received their revamp and it's time for Resistance to get one too. As a Battle Mage main, I just feel that there's no love for Resistance for all these years. The fact that _most_ of the Resistance classes are in B tier is just sad. _Only_ Demon Slayer and Blaster are in A tier and none in S or SS. Not just Resistance to be honest. Some of the Heroes as well as Kaiser and Angelic Buster are also left out.
I'm pretty sure I mention this whenever you talk about Mechanics, but you keep forgetting to talk about their main attack skill - Homing Beacon. This 1 skill is cracked.
@@MateusMeurer well yes obviously - it's not an automatic skill like assassin's mark, it's a main attack skill like Showdown. it's just that it's a homing missile active skill that hits 500% on 1 enemy, or can become a multi-hit attack doing 300% X 10 that will kill a mob then move extra missiles to the next (or hover and wait for mobs to spawn)
Great list i think the only thing I would change is ark I think I would put him in S he is low key a bossing freak and as you said feels bad when not in demon form but when you get to the higher levels he is almost always in demon form or using infinity spell
You overhyped bow master by putting it s-tier lol, just because it’s the easiest and cheapest boss mule doesn’t mean it’s a cracked class, just an ez class to main or mule
I'm gonna say rhis; i'm burning mercedes and i deeply regret it , the buffs are not relevant, i hated 1-210 back when i made it for legion, i made a new one for hyper and it's 220 now , i hope to get it to 250 passively, because the kit does not work well, the maps are not made for her , every platform is a pain so it is harder to find a good training map, do not play mercedes exept if you're really into the character playstyle
On the contrary I fucking love playing merc now. The upjump and reducing jump req saved this class. Tbh though you gotta like the combo lifestyle obviously.
coming back to the game after like 13-15 years? played in 2007 - 2009. was looking at some lists and I think I've settled on dawn warrior as a main (hyper burn) shadower as like a 2nd main i guess (mega burn) night walker for something i understand is called bite farming? which is apparently op (mega) and either hoyoung or kanna for fun/mobbing (mega) might do shadower as main idk yet are these good choices currently? also i read that if i delete a hyper/mega burn char i can make another just wanna make sure that's true?
The class is still the same? Damage wise. Hell no. Used to run vhilla with no problem about 2-3 lives left. Now die out in hard lucid and hard will. FeelsNerfMan
hello! i created a Bishop class based on this video (SS tier) but i find my damage to be extremely low + character not very mobile, am i doing something wrong? please advise! stats: level 200 stat att ~157K to 165K damage 6% final damage 30% ignore enemy def 60% crit rate 83% cri dmg 19% att 281 speed 117% jump 109% star force 101 arcane force 130
tbh if wild hunters lost there separate mount skills/playstyle and would always be on the jaguar i would main them love the more mechanical theme, mechanic is too much of a hassle to play. blaster destroys your hand but good damage, thunderbreaker destroys your hand but meh damage so i can fully understand why people don't play it. still dont know what to main but got some contenders bishop, darkknight, a thief explorer (been enjoying all of them) hoyoung, zero or nightwalker. why did Nexon have to delete my main TWICE (technically dawn warrior didn't get deleted just butchered) former jett main :c
After playing pathfinder I have a very difficult time playing another class due to the size of hit box they have. The ability to hit the floor your on, above AND the platform below you. Is there another class that has a similar style hit box zone while leveling? Not being able to hit the platform below the one your currently attacking on seems to annoy me but, maybe I’m just being biased due to my experience playing pathfinder. Or does this class that excels with multiple platform AoE damage? Looking for an alternative class that wasn’t a mage. I heard luminous was enjoyable but, I can’t seem to get into the playstyle of mages
i feel pretty bad choosing dark knight over paladin since i thought he would be better A tier is nice but paladin got S which i hoped dark knight to get. if there are any dark knights mains out there, can i hear your opinion on DK vs Paladin? thank you
Depends, Coppersan tier list is overall gameplay, not performance (dps-wise). Paladin will give a you a simpler, comfortable gameplay, hard to die and not many buttons to press. The main con of the class would be time, the time you take killing something. You don't die but take a little bit longer. Like leveling a healer/support in a mmorpg.
Dk has more dmg and a good kit. This is list is more personal preference and I wouldn't take it seriously. The most important thing is you find a class you like playing consistently, you'll never get far otherwise
I was looking for a fun mobbing class so made a lara for my hyper burn and im not really likeing it. If i delete her can i make a new hyper or is my selection locked in?
Kanna was so abused and used as a character It ultimately what lead to its downfall word of warning to people don't exploit a character unless you intend to have it nerf into oblivion.
TIMESTAMPS :D
0:39 Bishop
1:03 Dual Blade
1:20 Ark
1:52 Evan
2:18 Bowmaster
2:35 Aran
2:58 Shade
3:23 Mechanic
3:47 Jett :c
3:52 Dawn Warrior
4:12 Mercedes
4:41 Demon Slayer
5:09 Phantom
5:44 Mihile
6:15 I/L Mage
6:38 Pathfinder
7:01 Wild Hunter
7:28 Night Walker & Night Lord
8:05 Paladin
8:28 Lara
8:45 Cadena
9:05 Hero
9:28 Wind Archer
9:51 Adele
10:12 Beast Tamer
10:50 Buccaneer
11:06 Marksman
11:25 Luminous
11:41 Dark Knight
12:04 Kain
12:28 Kaiser
12:50 Kinesis
13:10 Shadower
13:32 F/P Mage
13:56 Illium
14:15 Corsair
14:46 Battle Mage
15:15 Blaze Wizard
15:34 Cannoneer
15:59 Angelic Buster
16:16 Blaster
16:37 Ho Young
16:59 Zero
17:19 Demon Avenger
17:43 Thunder Breaker
18:07 Xenon
18:35 Hayato
18:53 Kanna
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4:12 Mercidus*
Thanks
very good job
Im newbie here. I just started playing Hero but took to long to do all the quests. Im lv 57 right now. Do we have to do all the quests to level up fast? Thank you
It's been a decade, but I'm coming back to MapleStory, this game brought me peace.
Have fun my bro!
I literally hopped on after a decade as well 👌🏽
Reboot?
100%
❤ That is so true man, I play Maplestory on and off a couple of times now, I always comeback to it somehow. I guess becuz it's part of my childhood and it gives this nostalgic feelings that no other games could do.
I'm burning Illium and I think you are absolutely right in saying that it is a super powerful class. What I would say though is that battery management really isn't as bad as people think. You can create a mirrorimage of the battery, which effectively means you have 2 batteries out at once and therefore don't really have to move them. Couple that with your crystal gates + erda shower, you can full clear the biggest maps in the game with very little effort. I've been surprised at how strong it is, and would highly recommend people to give it a try, especially since the nodes are very straightforward as you mentioned.
I saw batteries and long text of how to use. It's what people drive away from the class. I tried it and I hate it. Not saying it's bad. I main a phantom and it's just completely different.
Im burning illium as well and got very surprised byvhow good it is with very little funding. As you said as well, battery management is super easy when you have your crystal Gates. I find it almost redundant as well to manually place your battery once you gotten some nodes because you can easily clear everything with just shooting straight at the mobs with the bouncing crystal. Funded illium doesnt even need to care about battery management 😅 Super lazy and fun class, SS tier for me
@@BravoBrakas yeah with node funding you can basically ignore the battery because the javelin + bounces oneshot. Really crazy class.
If you're not on perfect ping it can get annoying at times. Sometimes moving the ball doesnt register properly, or sometimes flying doesnt register properly or you dont drop when you actually let go of the key. Ball management can also be annoying sometimes with all the visual clutter, like Orianna in league of legends when you lose track of the ball and ult the air.
Anyway those are just minor problems but ultimately illium has a unique playstyle that you have to like to enjoy. Just like Mihile who is indisputably a busted class, being literally immune 2/3 of the time, but the playstyle is unique and not for everyone
I love Illium and seeing more people playing him. i never had any issue with it, but then again i picked him up first when i came back to maple so i got used to that gameplay first.
Tier List :D
SS:Bishop,Bowmater,Dawn Warrior,Mihile,Night Walker, NightLord, Hero, Buccaneer, Shadower, Ho Young
S:Dual Blade,Aran,Mercedes,I/L Mage, Paladin,Wind Archer, Marksman, Luminous, F/P Mage
A:Ark,Shade,Demon Slayer,Pathfinder, Lara, Adele, Dark Knight, Kain, Illium, Corsair, Cannoneer, Blaster, Zero
B:Evan,Mechanic,Phantom,Wild hunter, Cadena, Beast Tamer, Kaiser, Kinesis, Battle Mage, Blaze Wizard, Angelic Buster, Demon Avenger, Thunder Breaker, Xenon, Hayato, Kanna
C:
D:Jett
E:
thanksk!
The D tier is wrong…can’t be on a list if you an event character…
"Buff Angelic Buster" is objectively the correct position.
Source: AB main.
AB has been in QoL jail for the past like… 7 years or so. They’ve largely only received minor buffs just to keep up and are seriously behind. My guess is that they were planned for a rework for a while but it kept getting pushed back, until now where 6th job takes priority.
Great tier list coppersan! Id personally put illium in ss tier though since its actually a lot easier to play than people expect and the dmg is absolutely cracked
Don't forget the party wide that no other job gets
ilium ftw!
illium sux and nexon needs to buff it more
@@tacocat1921 oh yes nexon if you see this comment Please buff illium more, he so Damn weak
Tyty coppersan for this news.
I'm very happy now.
However, I'm in hiatus, 3 years or more, probably 5 years at max.
Good luck for Maplestory gaming.
Happy mapling!
I remember you talking about making this video during your stream 😀. I was waiting for it. Thanks again for these videos, I've just recently gotten back into mushroom game hah and I've been binge watching. Cheers
I'm still dreaming of the day that DrK is back on top. We seem to be the adventurers that are continually done dirty.
Thank you for the list. It was an interesting watch!
Demon Avenger feels much better with our 160 hyper buff, it pretty much 1-shots everything every 8 sec without compromising mobility. The thing is our basic kit feels "old", attacking with a 3rd job skill always felt odd to me, I would much rather have 1 skill that upgrades until 4th job used for bossing/mobbing like dawn warrior, plus our 5ths aren't as flashy/simple to use as other classes.
Fr DA needs an overhaul
Not a bad list but it’s really hard to rank classes on an overall scale, the gap between a 220-230 boss mule vs main is just too large in maplestory.
You did your best to review these classes in your opinion.
Main is Drk and im currently hyperburning a Bowmaster as a bossing mule. Both are pretty fun but man, the bowmaster is like making me question where all that damage is coming from because its deleting mobs easily with just the event equips alone. Cant wait to move worlds and give her the abso/cra gear later on
as a bm main, the passives are on crackkkkk hahaha
I'm burning a Dawn Warrior and, oh boy. I'm farming mobs 20 levels higher than me and it's 1-2 shots at most with the event equips and no mesos spent. Will surely try burning a BM.
I also hyperburned my bowmaster, the 5th job skills are kinda boring but really good, you can always keep at least one active at all times or pop all of them once and melt bosses
All I will say about Xenon is that he really isnt as complicated as it might seem at first glance. The node requirements only matter for end game bossing. You can get away with 1 trio for a long time. The grinding on the class can be very lazy and the bossing is really nice. Has a short cooldown , personal bind, great burst, amazing mobility, AND great DPM. My only issue is the lack of a GOOD up-jump. You have to use your 2nd job skill as an upjump, but it doesn't go very high.
TRUE
Getting good stats is really hard though, much more difficult than other classes
i find the burst hard, to hold 1 button while buffing and to do the combo where when you release you have to go beam dance
SS - Bishop, Bowmaster, Dawn Warrior, Mihile, Night Walkwer, Night Lord, Hero, Buccaneer, Shadower, Hoyoung
S - Dual Blade, Eran, Mercedes, Ice Lightning, Paladin, Wind Archer, Marksman, Luminous, Fire Poison
A - Ark, Shade, Demon Slayer, Pathfinder, Lara, Adele, Dark Knight, Kain, Illium, Corsair, Cannoneer, Blaster, Zero
B - Evan, Mechanic, Phantom, Wildhunter, Cadena, Beast Tamer, Kaiser, Kinesis, Battle Mage, Blaze Wizard, Angelic Buster, Demon Avenger, Thunder Breaker, Xenon, Hayato, Kana
C -
D - Jett,
E -
Great guide as always! Awesome to see you guys still making content! Keep it up 😊 -ps. Viralswagg is back ;)
Love your content! Burning a mechanic in Savior and enjoying it so far
I will say for tierlists, if full tiers are unused, probably better to condense (S-D instead of SS-F).
What level is your mechanic? I am levelling one non burning and I cannot get myself to do anything more than zakum with 200% exp because they're so boring and lackluster Q.Q
What really killed I/L for me was removing the Jump/Chain lightning method a few patches ago. Before that I could jump and attack. Now its feels so clunky and unfluent that I completely dropped that class. Don't know why they allways change stuff I really like.
As someone who's played both demons extensively, I'd easily rate DA higher than Slayer, in terms of both mobbing and bossing damage output.
The only downside to Avenger is no real s, however they have constant damage reduction and consistent healing which allows them to leverage ruin force shield way better than Slayer.
I appreciate that you preface the video by saying you've got no end game experience with most of the classes and it's your tier list so of course you may rate the classes as you want, but it just irks me a bit to see Mihile at SS while DA is B tier. And then people go and say the class is unpopular, or that it needs a rework which it's already gotten, or worse that it should be deleted/removed. It just feels like these tiers lists are based more on popularity than how good classes actually are.
Anyway I apologize for the small rant. I genuinely enjoy these videos even though I may not give off that impression and while I agree with a huge part of the tier list, it would still be really interesting to watch a video or a series of videos where you possibly interview end game players and then do a tier list or per class guide based off their experience with their main class.
Hey man, i wanna main a DA, for my first main (and bossing), but im have no founds, so it's a solid choice to the first boss unfunded character?
@@XaropinhoTheRat Yes, it's regarded as one of the best unfunded classes because it has high base dmg and is the highest IED+PDR reduction class in the game. The only issue is low crit chance, which can be fixed with legion/links.
D for deleted POGGERS
Kanna hayato will join soon. 😂
I would be interested in seeing a similar tier list for boss mules, specifically up to lomien, maybe with some details about what is considered to be a good spot in terms of power for such a mule.
As an aside, how much lower would blaster be placed if, like me, your hands don't work and you can't use bobbing and weaving and the relative animation cancels?
Demon Avenger deserves to be at least a tier higher imo. It's a slow burn class that doesnt feel good until 160, and then really really starts to shine in 5th job. It has multiple fmas, a skill similar to buccs spinning mobbing skill, and an offensive version of pally's invulnerability skill. The first 200 levels arent easy for sure, but their kit is so backloaded that it makes it worth imo
I’m burning DA. Trained from 202 and Made it to 235 in only yesterday’s sunny Sunday. That’s how fun it was to play.
i parked mine at 140 to get the link but curious to go back and at least go to 210
I see my lovely shadower is still good, great ❤
Ive been feeling like coming back to maple recently 🎉
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Hyper Burning a Shade right now in Reboot...had one ages ago in Scania. Loving the class for mobbing/bossing, with 5K ish legion it kills everything pretty fast with a nice and simple gameplay loop. Shade hype!
What's the list with words instead of the images? I'm not sure of what each class looks like.
EDIT:
SS: Bishop. BowMaster, DawnWar, Mihile, NW, NL, Hero, Bucc, Shadower, Hoyoung
S: DB, Aran, Merc, I/L mage, Pally, WA, MM, Lumin, F/P mage,
A: Ark, Shade, DS, PF, Lara, Adele, DrK, Kain, Kiaser, Illium, Corsair, BattleMage, Cannoneer, Buster, Zero,
B: Evan, Mech, Phan, WH, Cadena, BT, Kine, Blaze Wiz, Angelic Buster, DA, ThunderBreaker, Xenon, Hayato, Kanna
C: n/a
D: Jett (deleted)
Love these kind of vids
"Phantom is cracked" my eyes widen in hope! "in maple Korea" 😢
lovely content as usual god bless
Lumi is SS tier for me. Never felt like it's that good but I am convinced after leveling to 240. Out of this world mobbing and really good burst window that basically comes every 30secs or less is freaking amazing.
unfortunately our burst isn't the best D: but everything else is uber nice. hopefully 6th job will increase our dpm or giga boost our burst.
Hi. is Lumi newbie friendly, how is Lumi vs bosses ?
This was actually one of the better tier list you’ve made. Keep it up.
A tier for cannoneer is fair, except you forgot to consider the monkey factor. Monkeys should immediately bump it up by a tier or 2
I think you're missing two big factors when it comes to unpopular classes - utility and visuals.
I say no one plays Thunderbreaker because why would they if there's Buccaneer that's better in every regard?
If TBs had superior party skills (and not other way around) many more would pick them up.
Because the playstyle looks fun. But if your damage is not topping the charts, you want your class to bring something else to the table, like a high impact party buff.
And another point is style points. Maple is all about visuals.
I like edgy classes and therefore Lara could be triple S and I wouldn't go anywhere near it.
Some classes are very polarizing in that regard, and just won't be picked up by smaller or larger groups of players on principle.
Cannoneer footage missing dropping fps is just chef's kiss
guys I fell for the blaster meme I'm only lvl 202 and my hand hurts already. upjump uses ammo and I don't have enough keybinds on my keyboard. turn back before its too late
Good now you should rank the new 6th job skills based on appearance
Kanna being B tier is so heart breaking. Kishin loss made me quit at 273
I find Kanna is basically the same even after Kishin nerf, removing spawn enhancement exchange for 10% exp only.
Totally the same grind.
I tried Kanna before and still the same grind and meso grind.
@NathRebornsK the meso rate is way way worse. If they made it 10%xp and 20% meso increase it would even out.
@@lagavulinmtg5120
Ask Nexon Korea.
The owner and the director who made Kanna balance.
just from a quick watch of the video here's the rankings, i don't have them in order though, hopefully this helps some one
ss
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bowmaster
bishop
dawn warrior
mihile
night walker
night lord
hero
buccaneer
shadower
huyoung
s
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dual blade
eran
mercedes
paladin
ice lightning
fire poison
wind archer
marksman
luminous
a
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zero
battle mage
illium
kain
dark knight
adele
demon slayer
ark
shade
path finder
lara
corsair
cannonneer
blaster
b
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demon avenger
angelic buster
blaze wizard
evan
mechanic
phantom
wild hunter
cadena
beast tamer
kaiser
kinesis
hayato
thunder breaker
xenon
kanna
d
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jett
you deserve more likes
I wonder where Khali goes on this chart.
I recently came back after years for this burning event. I made an Adele and got her to 202 and am not sure I like her all that much. Thinking about deleting her so I can Hyper Burn a Dawn Warrior instead. (Though it'd suck to lose her +10% Dmg Link Skill) But I'd rather Hyper Burn and main a different class.
I align so perfectly as a fellow burninator no late game main
Hey I am a new maplestory player.
Would I struggle to do solo bossing as a Bishop? I don't really know how to find groups and stuff and like going at my own pace but I think the aesthetic of the bishop (and the dragon summon) really cool.
You will not. Bishop is a good bosser
Can you please make a luminous Class video?
I’m 40k lumi kinda funded and can’t solo Hlomien and such I really appreciate your help with that class
Your SS tier is explorers and cygnus knights + ho young
same with S tier, but with addition of heroes xD
we need a new one of those! :)
Did you design your UA-cam theme around your guild icon in-game? Or did MapleStory add your foxy character into the game as a guild icon? 👀
A long video, hell yeah!
I kinda feel like you should make a separate list just for bossing mules. Some classes are great as mains, but kinda terrible as mules.
NL is the best example probably. They are great as a main because they do a ton of damage all at once then can just focus on dodging, which is super handy for late-game bossing, but for early game bossing they're kinda garbage cause mules lean a lot more towards the DPM class side of things as you want to be able to clear like 10 bosses in a row in like 15mins and not wait 3 minutes between bosses to get your damage back otherwise you'll have a slow and painful clear or even occasionally fail a boss. For a main I'd definitely agree it's SS tier, but I'd honestly put in like C tier as a bossing mule.
Kinesis has gotta be the easiest mule I've ever made as well. While their kit isn't super late-game friendly with only 1 on a long cooldown and a bunch of skills that require the boss to sit still in them, they just somehow obliterate early game bosses. I was using my hyper burn prepped lv 202 kinesis to clear like 860m worth of bosses (everything below Cpap) with no boost nodes and a few pieces of gear un-upgraded in only a little slower time than my lv 230 fully boosted fully upgraded demon slayer. Idk if they just overbuffed their damage to compensate for a clunky kit or what but it just feels kinda busted compared to most of my other 8 mules.
Every class is great as a main, you should chose a MAIN based on a tierlist tho, you should pick a main based on what you like to do and how you like to play, a tierlist for smt so personal like MAIN is not what ppl should ask for
shade main here as well, im happy with A tier i understand our downsides but i love our upsides
Quick question.... If attack speed doesn't effect mage classes anymore. Why does blaze wizard have so many skills that give attack speed? Makes no sense to me why their skills were changed to compensate for that change.
Word of fire gives +2 to atk speed
Spell control gives +1
Burning conduit gives +1
Feel like if they were going to change attack speed to actual mages that would make sense, but seems to me blaze wizard, and battle mage should have still kept the benefit of attack speed atleast for their main atk skill(Orbital flame for blaze and final blow for bam)
The Resistance classes _need_ a remaster/revamp. Explorers and Cygnus Knights already received their revamp and it's time for Resistance to get one too. As a Battle Mage main, I just feel that there's no love for Resistance for all these years. The fact that _most_ of the Resistance classes are in B tier is just sad. _Only_ Demon Slayer and Blaster are in A tier and none in S or SS. Not just Resistance to be honest. Some of the Heroes as well as Kaiser and Angelic Buster are also left out.
Hey there ! ;) really like your videos
Are the guides you made for progression on the Reboot server still up to date or did some things change ?
I like this channel
Everytime he starts a video with that opening I just say it with him, copper san copper san copper san copper san copper san.
I'm pretty sure I mention this whenever you talk about Mechanics, but you keep forgetting to talk about their main attack skill - Homing Beacon. This 1 skill is cracked.
would you say it is easier to get this skill to one-shot than assassins marks?
@@MateusMeurer well yes obviously - it's not an automatic skill like assassin's mark, it's a main attack skill like Showdown. it's just that it's a homing missile active skill that hits 500% on 1 enemy, or can become a multi-hit attack doing 300% X 10 that will kill a mob then move extra missiles to the next (or hover and wait for mobs to spawn)
I think at this rate half the video is gonna be coppersan reading out the names of his supporters 😂
Great list i think the only thing I would change is ark I think I would put him in S he is low key a bossing freak and as you said feels bad when not in demon form but when you get to the higher levels he is almost always in demon form or using infinity spell
Bowmaster has come so far! So proud!
Can you please do a "fun" tier list? as subjective as it is? Tired of damage tier lists as they change every few months
Hi Copper! May I have the list of your SS and S class please . Do you have an excel ? Thank you
You overhyped bow master by putting it s-tier lol, just because it’s the easiest and cheapest boss mule doesn’t mean it’s a cracked class, just an ez class to main or mule
Can you do one for new age(just for the returning players)?
I'm maining Kanna, Phantom and Hayato, and it really pains me to see them all at B tier lmao
surprised we're getting this now instead of after new age when there'll be the new class and mob changes
I'm gonna say rhis; i'm burning mercedes and i deeply regret it , the buffs are not relevant, i hated 1-210 back when i made it for legion, i made a new one for hyper and it's 220 now , i hope to get it to 250 passively, because the kit does not work well, the maps are not made for her , every platform is a pain so it is harder to find a good training map, do not play mercedes exept if you're really into the character playstyle
On the contrary I fucking love playing merc now. The upjump and reducing jump req saved this class. Tbh though you gotta like the combo lifestyle obviously.
@@ReinLie i'm an aran and blaster main , i love xombos, i might just be bad on mercedes, but it feels clunky as fuck , nothing really fits together
coming back to the game after like 13-15 years? played in 2007 - 2009. was looking at some lists and I think I've settled on dawn warrior as a main (hyper burn) shadower as like a 2nd main i guess (mega burn) night walker for something i understand is called bite farming? which is apparently op (mega) and either hoyoung or kanna for fun/mobbing (mega)
might do shadower as main idk yet
are these good choices currently?
also i read that if i delete a hyper/mega burn char i can make another just wanna make sure that's true?
Only thing holding back for Merc not going to SS prolly because the lack of binding skills for me 😢
Fun tier list when? Would be kinda nice to see what is fun this time around (:
My only gripe is illium best class, SS for sure. Super mobile, crazy grinding and great bossing. Can’t beat a 9sec party either.
Regretting burning a hero cuz it’s still not 1 hitting at chu chu, slow attacking and mobility. How is up jump not a default for every class yet 😢
I mained a Kanna and have no trouble bossing except for Hellux and Normal Damien
Can someone tell me what hat he's wearing on his CopperFire character at the 20 second mark?
Love your insight! I just thought having C and E tiers were useless
6th job tier list please
What class do people recommend for a new player coming back after a long time to main? No funding, casual player
BaM nerfs are overblown, they were mostly damage readjustments, the class is still the same exact power as it was before Ignition.
The class is still the same? Damage wise. Hell no. Used to run vhilla with no problem about 2-3 lives left. Now die out in hard lucid and hard will. FeelsNerfMan
@@frozenfrost2062 sounds like a skill issue lol
hello! i created a Bishop class based on this video (SS tier) but i find my damage to be extremely low + character not very mobile, am i doing something wrong? please advise!
stats:
level 200
stat att ~157K to 165K
damage 6%
final damage 30%
ignore enemy def 60%
crit rate 83%
cri dmg 19%
att 281
speed 117%
jump 109%
star force 101
arcane force 130
ough i wanna come back to ms sooo bad😭 i play this game for like one month a year💀 maybe its time to get my 2023 quota (and maybe stay this time too!)
tbh if wild hunters lost there separate mount skills/playstyle and would always be on the jaguar i would main them love the more mechanical theme, mechanic is too much of a hassle to play. blaster destroys your hand but good damage, thunderbreaker destroys your hand but meh damage so i can fully understand why people don't play it. still dont know what to main but got some contenders bishop, darkknight, a thief explorer (been enjoying all of them) hoyoung, zero or nightwalker. why did Nexon have to delete my main TWICE (technically dawn warrior didn't get deleted just butchered) former jett main :c
Guess I made the right choice of making a Dawn Warrior. After not playing the game for so long I have a lot to learn.
After playing pathfinder I have a very difficult time playing another class due to the size of hit box they have. The ability to hit the floor your on, above AND the platform below you.
Is there another class that has a similar style hit box zone while leveling? Not being able to hit the platform below the one your currently attacking on seems to annoy me but, maybe I’m just being biased due to my experience playing pathfinder. Or does this class that excels with multiple platform AoE damage?
Looking for an alternative class that wasn’t a mage. I heard luminous was enjoyable but, I can’t seem to get into the playstyle of mages
Wouldn't Wind Archer be similar?
Is xenon only b tier because of the complexity? In terms of their current bossing and mobbing, are they higher up there?
How is the new sand thief doing? Is she not out yet for GMS?
i feel pretty bad choosing dark knight over paladin since i thought he would be better
A tier is nice but paladin got S which i hoped dark knight to get.
if there are any dark knights mains out there, can i hear your opinion on DK vs Paladin?
thank you
I would choose DK over paladin for more boss dmg/burst, paladin is just lazier. For mobbing I think its a personal choice.
Depends, Coppersan tier list is overall gameplay, not performance (dps-wise).
Paladin will give a you a simpler, comfortable gameplay, hard to die and not many buttons to press. The main con of the class would be time, the time you take killing something. You don't die but take a little bit longer.
Like leveling a healer/support in a mmorpg.
Dk has more dmg and a good kit. This is list is more personal preference and I wouldn't take it seriously. The most important thing is you find a class you like playing consistently, you'll never get far otherwise
Is this tier list is for MapleSea ??
Not a single class in C tier? If I were to pick one it would be TB.
"Jett in D tier, D stands for deleted" :(
100% I liked WA before the update. I know it's a very cartoony game but the skills looked so much better before.
Im a DB main and i gotta admin its slightly weaker than the counterpart thieves atm even with the buffs. Aint even mad with S rank still🎉💪🏻😎
Ron, you're killing me... If Kaiser is 50/50 Nova and Final Form, he belongs in A-Tier.. Just to compromise!!!
I was looking for a fun mobbing class so made a lara for my hyper burn and im not really likeing it. If i delete her can i make a new hyper or is my selection locked in?
can delete it
@@snuiperd1085 can make new hyper after deleting it?
@@swiftmage yes
Been B tier for about 5 years, sounds about right
Coppersan should make a tier list of his supporters
Raar maar waar definitely going on S tier
hey guys, is it possible to move chars from world to world? I play MapleSEA, Draco world, and wanna move to Aquila
Opppa meter thru the roof rn 😤😤😤
Kanna was so abused and used as a character It ultimately what lead to its downfall word of warning to people don't exploit a character unless you intend to have it nerf into oblivion.
I shall agree with Nexon Korea, the main director, the decision.
I find Kanna is totally the same meso grind, just slow.
The title should say "personal tier list" because your argument for some of those ranks is just not knowing the class or because it's "hard".
doesn’t it a common sense when anyone do tier list, it from that person opinion
How about khali??
Shad tier SS? Its a dream?