Stranded or not? What's the status of astronauts on Boeing's Starliner?

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
  • Are they stuck? Stranded? Will SpaceX have to rescue Butch and Suni?
    These questions are flooding my feed.
    The current status of Boeing's Starliner is being widely discussed and HOW you describe the delayed return might get you in hot water!
    So, here's what we know based on the chronological timeline and the current situation up at the ISS.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 678

  • @ross077
    @ross077 2 дні тому +96

    Thanks Ellie, this is the top-notch, factual and even-handed journalism that we've all come to expect of you.

    • @jcassel61
      @jcassel61 День тому +1

      Such stupid oversight issues that sound like nobody got a work order. What else is going on that the workers let it go, knowing they did nothing wrong waiting for a work order? Beurocracy. The CEO is an accountant. Also, the whistle blowers and safety issues. Disgruntled workers feeling handcuffed to the point of letting something go. Blame to no work order and inspectors.

    • @iridium8341
      @iridium8341 15 годин тому +1

      ​@@jcassel61 Sunita should have just said, "If it's Boeing, am not going."

  • @gregkelly2145
    @gregkelly2145 2 дні тому +93

    Better 'Stuckliner' than 'Flatliner'!

    • @douginorlando6260
      @douginorlando6260 2 дні тому +8

      Or Fireball liner if more thrusters fail

    • @douginorlando6260
      @douginorlando6260 2 дні тому +7

      How about Russian Roulette liner?

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X 2 дні тому +5

      It the Boeing way now! Delay after delay and delay! Doing a good job? $4.2 billion!😂

    • @w13rdguy
      @w13rdguy 2 дні тому +9

      "Pocket liner"

    • @brianfoltz9736
      @brianfoltz9736 День тому +6

      StarLeaker!

  • @davenz000
    @davenz000 2 дні тому +83

    At least the door didn't fall off.

    • @SteichenFamily
      @SteichenFamily 2 дні тому +23

      Yes it did! 0:32

    • @kurtgain2978
      @kurtgain2978 2 дні тому +4

      You meant it "didn't fall off" AGAIN!

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 дні тому +11

      @@SteichenFamily Wait WTF!?! That happened, just driving it along the road? I never heard about that...

    • @SillySausage-mq3so
      @SillySausage-mq3so 2 дні тому +1

      Front :)

    • @dvone4124
      @dvone4124 2 дні тому +3

      @@SteichenFamily And NOBODY in the motorcade noticed, so they all just kept going like normal. Perhaps to Boeing workers, it was!

  • @grumblewoof4721
    @grumblewoof4721 2 дні тому +123

    They have been up there so long that NASA are considering charging them rent.

    • @Wi2Low
      @Wi2Low 2 дні тому +27

      Ouch. The rent is sky high 🤣

    • @ginagina5452
      @ginagina5452 2 дні тому +11

      😂😂😂

    • @liamprincetech
      @liamprincetech 2 дні тому +19

      @@Wi2Low It's astronomical

    • @Starshipsforever
      @Starshipsforever 2 дні тому +1

      Why? For their own astronauts? I can't even believe Ellie liked this. This was all part of the planning for possible mission extension.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 2 дні тому +6

      ​@@Starshipsforever Better watch out Ellie, I think you just made agent 747 mad.

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 2 дні тому +72

    I would NOT want to come home in that thing, it has way too many issues, and they never should have gone up in it.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 дні тому +4

      They are test pilots. They have a ton of experience with partially working vehicles. Those two are experts at judging risk so don’t expect things to be perfect.
      It will be interesting to see the final report in a year. If they decide they can fly this ship home or if they get a space Uber.

    • @awesomefeldmanfamily
      @awesomefeldmanfamily 2 дні тому +8

      I definitely agree I also wouldn't have gone up on it to begin with.

    • @PDZ1122
      @PDZ1122 2 дні тому +2

      You're speaking as a qualified spacecraft engineer, I assume?

    • @Denzamusic
      @Denzamusic 2 дні тому +8

      ​@PDZ1122 No. You do not need to be a space engineer to see wtf is going on. When a manned mission is ongoing, there shouldn't be any helium leaks and thruster problem , where 4 or 5 thrusters stopped working for a moment, I much lower orbit happened because of that.
      In test flights it can happen. But you do not have a test space flight with humans. This is to many errors for a company that always lying and making up things when windows falls off boeing airplanes.
      Boeing is a company with 1 goal. Make money and more money. Space x actually cares about safety and Elon musk have a dream about Mars with his entire team.boeing does not.

    • @iseiyoulaitre
      @iseiyoulaitre 2 дні тому +4

      After noticing poor quality issues with their aircraft I can agree with you.

  • @colinmackie5211
    @colinmackie5211 2 дні тому +56

    I reckon the space station will be retired before star liner demonstrates a clean round trip which i think is needed before certification

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 дні тому +5

      Sad but possibly true.

    • @tonybrock5288
      @tonybrock5288 2 дні тому +5

      Maybe they'll leave Starliner docked till then? Then it can also burn up when they deorbit the ISS.

    • @user-cz5kd7mw4h
      @user-cz5kd7mw4h 2 дні тому

      У вас нет сердца .😢

    • @colinmackie5211
      @colinmackie5211 2 дні тому +2

      @@tonybrock5288 yes that was my thinking also

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 День тому +1

      let's hope those 2 stranded will not go down with the ISS

  • @ahchx861
    @ahchx861 2 дні тому +27

    nowadays Boeing is SO LUCKY to be a government supported/subsidized company, as a private one would be bankrupted by now.

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 2 дні тому +10

    I can see the astronauts thinking about the issues, with one of them saying: "I knew we should have upgraded to business class".

    • @hnlmike3589
      @hnlmike3589 2 дні тому

      Govt ticket .. no business class allowed 😂

  • @dancobb118
    @dancobb118 2 дні тому +71

    I think Starliner will bring them home. I certainly hope they are safe. If anything happens on the way back, Boeing is done.

    • @jimle22
      @jimle22 2 дні тому +4

      Yea, Boeing will try to bring them home. They will probably be succsessful, I hope. If they have to call on SpaceX for a rescue mission NAS and Boeing will lose so much face they will have to leave the spacecraft manufacturing business to commercial contractors.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 2 дні тому +6

      Idk why Boeing failing is NASA’s fault. Why would it be embarrassing for NASA when Boeing and Bigelow Aerospace built Starliner. This would be like blaming NASA every time a space X rockets explodes.

    • @Relkond
      @Relkond 2 дні тому +2

      Well, there's bringing them home... planets are kind of big and hard to miss. Then there's getting them back alive... which will depend at least some on the thrusters. And bringing them back on target, which will require more active use of the thrusters to steer the vehicle.

    • @theodorebedard6429
      @theodorebedard6429 2 дні тому +2

      its 100% better if spacex sends dragon up to take them home, then the possibility the starliner doesn't bring the crew home. space is dangerous and there is no place for pride when it comes to human lives.

    • @stevengoard9352
      @stevengoard9352 День тому

      Agreed, 2 lives dont need to be needlessly risked for Boeing's pride, they're years behind the target​ and way over budget@@theodorebedard6429

  • @DaveInPA2010
    @DaveInPA2010 2 дні тому +17

    That was a good analysis Ellie.
    I think I’ve mentioned something about this before but as a sidenote, in your ending bumper appeal for subscribers and even Patreon so that you can live the life you want to live, think of your viewers. They are struggling to live the kind of lives **they** want to live.
    I would strongly recommend rephrasing that to say “so that I can take you to these places “or “we got to go see and do the things that you want to do, and get answers to the questions that you are asking”
    A good manager will take the blame themselves but always praise the people on their team first.
    In the same way you want to emphasize in this form of journalism that you are acting as the hands and feet and eyes and ears of your viewers, and you disappear into the background.

    • @liamprincetech
      @liamprincetech 2 дні тому +3

      I agree. Don't let the message make it about yourself, let the message reflect how funding will allow your audience to experience more/better content. An audience won't want to just pay for you to have a wonderful lifestyle - they're paying for a product that they want to consume. It's outwardly subtle but actually subliminally negative to hear what you said at the end there.

  • @fellixx11
    @fellixx11 2 дні тому +19

    Excellent report as always. What really chaps me about this whole situation is that Boeing lobbied HARD to exclude SpaceX from commercial crew. Had they been successful, we would still be buying rides from Russia. Given the world situation, how much do you think those rides would have cost? No doubt that building spacecraft is hard work but Boeing needs to get out of its own way and stop letting the accountants run the show.

    • @johnarnold893
      @johnarnold893 2 дні тому

      Boeing also needs to return some of that 4.3 billion they scammed the taxpayers for. SpaceX only got 2.6 billion and they've been launching successfully for years now leaving Boeing in the dust.

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 День тому

      And SpaceX built their repeatedly successful crew craft on a much smaller budget than Boeing did!

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 2 дні тому +25

    Oh and BTW, great reporting Ellie.

  • @gnxpross1
    @gnxpross1 2 дні тому +40

    Windows and or doors exploding off the ship while being towed before launch, is not a major concern at this time.

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 День тому +2

      Yep.....as Boeing says "All of this is going according to plan and we think everything is going well!"
      As they try to assure everyone that this plan is giving them plenty of time to assess the leaks and fixes. Like.....how many spare parts and Starliner engineers are on the ISS that can go out physically in space walks and address physical repairs if everything cannot be rectified via software patches? I think this is why no returns have been formally announced. If software patches, alone, would have fixed the issues.....they'd be back by now.
      I saw an article the other day that mentioned that even though mission managers knew in advance about helium links, they assumed it would not jeopardize the safety or mission objectives. Perhaps I could get a job at NASA or Boeing as a mission manager.....im really good at "assuming" also!

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq День тому +2

      I am begining to think Boeing thinks these persons are whistleblowers...

    • @gnxpross1
      @gnxpross1 23 години тому

      @@AndrewTSq That's the unfortunate trend these days when they are controlled by Dems.!.

  • @Jim-nt7xy
    @Jim-nt7xy 2 дні тому +38

    If it's Boeing, I ain't Going.

    • @tonywilson4713
      @tonywilson4713 День тому

      You forgot to add the word "anywhere" to the end of that.

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef 2 дні тому +45

    0:30 Boeing also is known for having problems keeping their doors closed.

    • @jimle22
      @jimle22 2 дні тому +3

      @0.34 if you go back and look, something did fall off the window while being towed to the hanger.

    • @Starshipsforever
      @Starshipsforever 2 дні тому +1

      @@jimle22 That is a bit of a lie. It was back in 2022 while being take to SLC41 and it was a plastic protective cover for the window that would've been take off at the pad.

    • @MrScottgp
      @MrScottgp 2 дні тому +1

      Don't worry that isn't part of the "partially reusable" section

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 День тому +1

      Let's just call it an "open door policy"!

  • @jackeppington6488
    @jackeppington6488 2 дні тому +16

    + about 6 hrs since Ellie's post: I hope you are following the NASA JSC ISS presser - reporters are pressing hard about the lack of daily info as well as the vague testing. And NASA is clearly annoyed about words like "stranded." Yet they will NOT commit to an end of testing and a return to earth for Suni and Butch.

  • @w13rdguy
    @w13rdguy 2 дні тому +41

    What's really scandalous is that Starliner was allowed to fly at all, with two astronauts on board. It's not ready.

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel День тому

      As it's partially reusable then it's partially ready😂

    • @iridium8341
      @iridium8341 15 годин тому

      ​@@kiwidiesel The two astronauts sent were also partially expendable.

  • @bubbax1115
    @bubbax1115 День тому +8

    Remember that time a Dragon capsule was stuck and couldn't safely leave and a second capsule had to be sent?
    Me neither.

  • @jeremyfarmer2502
    @jeremyfarmer2502 2 дні тому +19

    I do believe nasa is trying to save face with starliner. In my opinion, they should give SS dream chaser the money to develop the crew version and drop boing. It may take a little longer to develop crew dream chaser but it will be better in the long run

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому

      Would not in the least bit be surprised if Sierra Space has a Crew Emergency Return interior ready to bolt in to the Cargo version they're due to test fly soon, or can send the tools and instructions up, to pull the seats from Starliner and fit to Dream Chaser. The only issue to get past first, is Dream Chaser hasn't passed it first flight test yet either, but is on schedule to do so. Fast tracking the paperwork side of that should be a NASA priority, so the tests can be focused on.

    • @Wi2Low
      @Wi2Low 2 дні тому +2

      There is exactly ZERO justification for spending even one more taxpayer dollar on a redundant, unnecessary crew launch system.
      Falcon 9 is already the most reliable, cheapest, safest, highest volume system in human history. Adding anything adds nothing but waste and danger.

    • @TimothyLipinski
      @TimothyLipinski 2 дні тому

      Great Comment ! The Dream Chaser is not a Nazi program ! The Dream Chaser is a program of Sierra Space and once the seven contracted Cargo missions are completed the Cargo Dream Chaser will be FREE to UP-Grade to the Crew Dream Chaser ! tjl

    • @isakoqv
      @isakoqv 2 дні тому +4

      @@Wi2Low There is plenty of justification for securing supply by ensuring there is more than one option. No matter how safe falcon 9 or dragon is if there is ever an accident involving either system they will have to ground it until the issue has been identified and resolved. There is also a financial risk in sticking with a single supplier as nothing is stopping SpaceX from raising prices to their liking as long as they have a monopoly.

    • @jamarplunkett3283
      @jamarplunkett3283 2 дні тому +4

      Exactly. Having all your eggs in one basket is too risky. Even if that basket is a really good basket.

  • @Scotty_AU
    @Scotty_AU 2 дні тому +20

    I hope Butch remembered his shaver, hes going to look like a caveman after being stuck up there for so long

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 дні тому

      Didn’t you know hair doesn’t grow in zero gravity.

    • @Scotch20
      @Scotch20 2 дні тому +2

      @@ecospider5 I don't think I trust that study

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 День тому +1

      I can only imagine loose whiskers and shaving cream floating around the station in zero gravity.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq День тому

      @@ecospider5 hair grows in zero gravity, just not the same way as on earth.

  • @C-mm751
    @C-mm751 2 дні тому +26

    I think Boeing's best days are over, you can see it in aviation too. Thank God for SpaceX.

  • @codedlogic
    @codedlogic 2 дні тому +10

    I think these astronauts are going to have PTSD. Suit failures on their space walk. Having to shelter in place after Russian satellite blows up. Failed thrusters. Leaking helium. 8 years of delay. Are these guys cursed or what?

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 дні тому +2

      At any moment, Q is likely to show up and give them some random challenge!

    • @jcassel61
      @jcassel61 10 годин тому

      Not cursed. They are efups. An accountant for CEO? The problems are on top. No brains (engineers) in management.

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef 2 дні тому +41

    If you had a SpaceX engineers look at Boeing's design they are likely to conclude Boeing's design is overly complicated. A Boeing engineer told me if you were to look at all the paperwork that went into building one of their planes the amount of paperwork would fill that plane. What this leads to is no one person knows how it all works.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 дні тому +3

      There are very few billion dollar projects that can fit in a single person’s head. That is why technical project managers are so important. They are supposed to be able to tell when an engineer is speaking BS. I definitely feel Boeing has lost that skillset within their teams. Which is to bad. 30 years ago they were one of the only companies that could actually manage that. Not any more.
      So, what you said but just from a slightly different point of view.

    • @davidarnold3318
      @davidarnold3318 2 дні тому +4

      ​@ecospider5 the problem is that now the tail wags the dog: instead of technical correctness trumping all other considerations the bean counters are overruling safety requirements. That is the problem plain and simple. Wrong focus of control.

    • @0x8badbeef
      @0x8badbeef 2 дні тому

      @@ecospider5 all the technical managers care about is covering their ass long enough to make it to retirement.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 дні тому +1

      @@ecospider5 When you move your upper management and executives more than 1,000 miles away, the mice will play.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 2 дні тому +2

      That may have been true in the past, but not now. Boeing has cut much of the process out, or has gutted it to save money in the short term. Destroying the engineering process, for a quick profit, has caused massive costs. The 787 development was estimated at $10 billion and cost $34 billion by the time they were delivering production aircraft at a loss. Then the bad cheap design led to the aircraft being grounded and deliveries stopped, more billions down the pan. The MAX crashes we caused by cheap outsourced software doing something that people who don't know aircraft didn't know was bad, more tens of billions down the pan. Boeing can't get the 777-X, 737 MAX 10, 737 MAX 7, or Starliner signed off. This is not because they are being too careful.

  • @isaacplaysbass8568
    @isaacplaysbass8568 2 дні тому +16

    Given that the engine issues are with the service module, which is jettisoned before re-entry, and therefore can't be examined afterwards, it makes TOTAL sense to perform all due diligence to test and examine the state of the Starliner engines "at leisure" whilst the crew are at the station.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому +5

      Logical. Almost as much as making sure it worked before launching it.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 дні тому

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes It was tested and did work prior to launch. But it wasn't tested in the harsh conditions of orbit.

    • @supercadet111
      @supercadet111 2 дні тому +2

      @@UncleKennysPlace Yes it was. That's what the unmanned mission that previously launched was for. However, it appears they need new metrics for testing before manned missions.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому

      @@UncleKennysPlace Did they never put it in NASA's giant Vacuum chamber???

    • @shawnmecklenburg2101
      @shawnmecklenburg2101 День тому

      Yes.....and I believe I read somewhere that there's enough crew provisions on the space station for crew to stay six months.....so why not take that full time to assess and test the Starliner for its return home?

  • @garyepaul2085
    @garyepaul2085 2 дні тому +8

    Nice to have someone provide a neutral report on the situation. As long as decisions are driven by the crew and engineers and not management, I have confidence in the safety of the crew. I think, however, Boeing has a while to go to get the confidence of everyone.

  • @ravindransomasundaram1810
    @ravindransomasundaram1810 2 дні тому +18

    First bring back the two astronauts by using another rescue vehicle. Let the starliner return to earth unmanned.

    • @dougsinthailand7176
      @dougsinthailand7176 День тому

      The division of Boeing that builds airliners is different from the one that builds spacecraft. It’s puzzling and bizarre that both divisions are experiencing apparent TQM issues. I wish you would address that, and exactly what the helium is used for in the spacecraft.

    • @joycethomas3975
      @joycethomas3975 17 годин тому

      Much more sensible!

    • @joycethomas3975
      @joycethomas3975 17 годин тому

      Much more sensible choice!

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 5 годин тому

      ​@@dougsinthailand7176helium is used to pressurize the Thruster fuel system.

  • @lorencehill5724
    @lorencehill5724 2 дні тому +4

    Did you forget the 61 original recommendations? 27 were classified as “mandatory” to resolve before the next mission, 13 were “highly recommended” to resolve before the next flight, and the other 21 were considered a lower priority. Of the additional 19 recommendations, 15 were considered mandatory and 1 highly recommended.

  • @joshmumpower4077
    @joshmumpower4077 2 дні тому +15

    Great factional reporting thank you ellie

  • @pilotdawn1661
    @pilotdawn1661 2 дні тому +9

    Excellent, factual report.

  • @c0t1
    @c0t1 2 дні тому +9

    "Strandliner". Oh my!

  • @samberry1000
    @samberry1000 2 дні тому +5

    Might be wise to return the people with SpaceX and have the Starliner return autonomously.

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank 2 дні тому

      Yes ! That would accomplish the re-entry test phase without risking human life. The overall test has already been failed because the failed seals and failed thrusters failed, need re-design, and re-testing in space.

  • @therichieboy
    @therichieboy 2 дні тому +5

    0:32 I didn't even see that at the time. Lucky I'd finished my drink as I'd have done a spit-take otherwise.

  • @si-vis-pacem-parabellum
    @si-vis-pacem-parabellum День тому +3

    PLOT : they want the two astronauts to surpass the regular 6 month shift.

  • @jamesp5301
    @jamesp5301 2 дні тому +3

    I think Starliner can do the job but I also think they were buying time to make sure they have as conservative of reentry plan as possible and maybe build some additional tests into it. I can't imagine what any more data analysis does for that unless they think there is a real possibility that a rescue will be needed

  • @bartdw6807
    @bartdw6807 2 дні тому +3

    That's journalism right there! Good job!

  • @homers7777
    @homers7777 День тому

    First time watcher.. great video. You have a wonderful voice, clear easy to understand and spoken at the right speed. Even for us 🇦🇺

  • @w3vjp568
    @w3vjp568 2 дні тому +6

    Fire that incompetent buffoon CEO, and the rest of his cronies, and MAYBE Boeing can be salvaged. The fact he’s being allowed to “step down” at the end of the year is obscene. It’s like letting a drunk driver go home on his own recognizance after he’s already wrecked the car.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому

      While carrying a performance bonus six pack on the passenger seat.

  • @JohanCardel
    @JohanCardel 2 дні тому +3

    Thanks for enlightening us, I was sort of scouting for updates on this from a good source!

  • @joshking1526
    @joshking1526 2 дні тому +3

    Thanks for the update

  • @tonybrock5288
    @tonybrock5288 2 дні тому +4

    "We are letting the data drive our decision making...". Why is Boeing not being transparent about what the data is telling them? This points to the fact that they have some potentially serious concerns.

    • @wally7856
      @wally7856 2 дні тому

      "We are letting the data drive our decision making..." is doublespeak for "if this thing crashes you can't point fingers at any one."

  • @MarcelVerheijden
    @MarcelVerheijden 2 дні тому +3

    Great vid, If your car breaks down in Chace CA you are stranded and stranded in the middle of the Mojave... if your capsule breaks down at ISS I'd say you are stranded... in the middle of literately nowhere....

  • @DrDoid0420
    @DrDoid0420 День тому

    Very well balanced reporting, Ellie. Best I’ve seen so far. Well done!

  • @Will-yz7oi
    @Will-yz7oi 2 дні тому +4

    At 0.33 it appears that a door falls off. Ok, Boeing, enough of that now. Bolt those doors on properly.

  • @wyattnoise
    @wyattnoise 2 дні тому

    Dunno if you've seen my comments before or not but I've been extremely critical of you in the past because I knew you were capable of putting out perfectly nuanced videos like this. This is excellent coverage of the current situation, not click-bait nonsense.
    Thank you.

  • @cualtiochi
    @cualtiochi 2 дні тому +14

    When corruption kills ideas and *lives! 😢

  • @bamabldr66
    @bamabldr66 2 дні тому

    Ellie,
    I watched to the end and I really enjoyed the video.
    Thanks!
    -Cliff

  • @cwulfe1
    @cwulfe1 2 дні тому +5

    Supposedly they'll be home the 1st of July. If NASA needs to "study the problems" with the thrusters and the helium leaks, then maybe the Demo2 crew could celebrate July 4th on the ISS.

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 День тому

      It's funny how so many people think that a couple of people who trained their whole lives to become astronauts are disappointed that they get to stay in orbit an extra couple of weeks.

  • @georgemccune7928
    @georgemccune7928 2 дні тому

    Thank you for showing us this video Ellie it's always interesting how we all view a scenario in a different way but at the core we are all concerned about the safety of the Astronauts as long as they get home safely is the main thing

  • @pete2.0.43
    @pete2.0.43 2 дні тому +5

    Thankyou Ellie

  • @jaeluatl
    @jaeluatl 2 дні тому +4

    Damn just something fly off the capsule about 30 sec in the video wow

  • @BusstterNutt
    @BusstterNutt 2 дні тому

    a great update as usual thank you very much

  • @estraume
    @estraume 2 дні тому +2

    Thank you again for a great informative video. Given that the main problem is the service module, and that it is designed to burn up on re-entry, it is reasonable that they want to test it and understand the root cause of the problems as much as possible before the departure from ISS. Scientists take the decisions based on data, and they want to collect as much relevant data as possible.

    • @dvone4124
      @dvone4124 2 дні тому

      NASA says one of the issues involves MULTIPLE helium leaks in a system that is absolutely vital for safe return, so NASA chooses to leave Starliner at the station to LEAK MORE OUT while the "engineers" study what to do. What else has gone wrong that makes total thruster failure the lesser evil?

  • @ExplodedwarlockD2
    @ExplodedwarlockD2 2 дні тому +4

    I’ll come back home on dragon thank you. I would even come home on starship I trust that more then anything Boeing !

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому +2

      Starship Wingflaps, even when we're dying in hypersonic airflow, we still deliver to destination.....

    • @calebfuller4713
      @calebfuller4713 2 дні тому +1

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes The little wing that could!

  • @anthonystout8265
    @anthonystout8265 2 дні тому

    Love the way you’ve been producing your content lately. Can see your past journalistic style coming through and it’s good

  • @SnaFubar_24
    @SnaFubar_24 2 дні тому +4

    If it's a Boeing, I ain't going!

  • @gregorychaney7604
    @gregorychaney7604 2 дні тому

    Keep up the even handed reporting!
    Cheers from Alaska

  • @n8hsu255
    @n8hsu255 День тому +2

    I know a little more than the public about Boeing. I was job hunting and found programing positions in their business software division on their site back before they killed 2 planefuls of people on the Max 8s. This led me to employee blogs where I found multiple complaints from programmers and project leaders about managements policy of only caring about deadlines not quality. They said that many had left in disgust. I am thinking NASA is finally deciding they cannot trust this deceitful company. Maybe, you could search for those blogs and find someone to interview.

  • @bohenriksson2330
    @bohenriksson2330 2 дні тому +5

    When a 1 week stay becomes a 1 month stay.. That smacks of desperation from Boeing.
    They either don’t know what’s wrong. Or know - and it’s potentially catastrophic. Either way it would not be safe to return with humans.

  • @ronstevens5412
    @ronstevens5412 День тому

    Good video. Thanks for sharing

  • @jeffrey5961
    @jeffrey5961 2 дні тому +2

    At 0:32, Starliner is being towed down a public road and an escape hatch blows off. No one stops. Did Ellie choose this clip intentionally to visually depict Starliner failures? We can't be sure of Schrodinger's astronauts until they land safely and give a press interview.

    • @kurtgain2978
      @kurtgain2978 2 дні тому +1

      They did stop, at the very end of the clip. It takes a bit to stop that transporter, can't just slam on the brakes.

  • @eugenecbell
    @eugenecbell 2 дні тому +3

    Boeing is still working out the details. It is rocket science it takes time, money, and testing. Ince they work the bugs out it will be a fine spacecraft.
    That being said, send an already human flight certified spacecraft up for the crew and bring the StarLiner back to Earth unmanned. The life of the trained crew is important.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw День тому +1

      It's been 8 years and it still isn't ready . SpaceX did it in half the time with less than half the budget . Boeing succeeded in another failure. The best outcome is no one dies.

    • @eugenecbell
      @eugenecbell День тому +1

      @@MR-xc3sw you are correct.

  • @user-og7rs2sq8u
    @user-og7rs2sq8u 2 дні тому +3

    They must be panic now.I really pray for them.

  • @steveferguson8047
    @steveferguson8047 18 годин тому

    Good to hear a more upbeat "realistic" post on the Starliner. Well done, without overstressing the issues but reporting them never the less...

  • @LuMaxQFPV
    @LuMaxQFPV 2 дні тому +2

    I feel it's important for all to step back. Stop talking, observe, quietly ponder, and remind ourselves exactly what we are doing.
    We (Starliner/NASA/Boeing) are putting 2 human beings into a small container, putting that on top of multiple, complex, ragingly dynamic emitters of propulsion in the form of fire, fueled by liquids that explode easily, up through the sky with precision navigational control THAT MUST WORK PERFECTLY, into an unforgiving, endless vacuum.
    We did this with a vehicle fraught with known, and more troubling, UNKNOWN issues. Whew... we are safe at ISS! BUT......
    Now, we are faced with the math: 1/2 of the luck hoped for on this mission, docking with ISS, has been spent. The REST of the mission lies before us, PRECISION thrusting to enter the atmosphere EXACTLY right, then the need to survive SEVERAL minutes of fire and plasma during re-entry, where vehicle positioning is CRUCIAL for survival (relies on thrusters, just like on the command module) AND proper attitude for flight, let alone, landing area targeting. ......we have KNOWN issues, AND we've cashed in HALF of our luck already.
    Think about that.
    If I was anyone on staff/management, I would not want to trust this vehicle. I would not want to be a part of a 'Historical Tragedy' event on Wikipedia for the rest of my career.
    They need to be thinking like this.

  • @SWilford
    @SWilford 2 дні тому +2

    A window fell off at 0:34. They may have found 4 bolts missing. Imagine how the two poor astronauts feel if that happen during launch!!😮
    Actually, another piece seemed to have flown off at 1:29-1:30 during launch.

  • @TheMASSTTER
    @TheMASSTTER 2 дні тому +8

    I think that Starliner will be able to retuen with the crew. but before it is to late i would say that a Dragon captule shuld be on standby in case it is needed.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 дні тому +2

      I was thinking about that. It should actually be way easier to get them a dragon capsule than a normal crewed mission. Usually with a crewed mission they have to get a block 5 booster available for launch. But there won’t be any humans in the dragon capsule on the way up. So they can use any booster. Which they have plenty of.
      It’s kind of like when the military told SpaceX they wanted to change the launch site for one of their missions. The military expected huge delays. But my understanding SpaceX had a rocket ready at the new location ready before the military got the payload to the new location.
      If I had to guess SpaceX could get them a dragon capsule with just a week’s notice. But that’s just a random guess. But guessing can make me look really smart if I end up being right. 😁🧐🤣😂

    • @airjump1
      @airjump1 2 дні тому +3

      @@ecospider5 It would take at least a couple of months to get a dragon ready. The life support systems and communication systems are not the same on the two crafts. They would have to build adapters or build SpaceX suits for the two crew members. There is only one Dragon capsule anywhere near to being ready to fly again. It is scheduled for Sept or Oct to the ISS. The other three are either on station, just returned from station, or has a window where the docking adapter would be.

    • @BrendanBurwood
      @BrendanBurwood 2 дні тому

      @@ecospider5 ALL active Falcon 9 boosters are Block 5. There are no earlier ones still active - they were retired or expended ages ago.

  • @MrGchiasson
    @MrGchiasson День тому +1

    If my car stops running and I'm stranded on the side of the road...
    I'm 'delayed' and 'stranded' and 'stuck'.
    Use any euphemism you want..to make it sound better...but they're all three.
    Delayed, Stranded and Stuck.

  • @boatbyrd
    @boatbyrd 2 дні тому +3

    OMG! Did you see the door blow off the capsule while it’s being taken up the road????? Hilarious!

  • @FASWORLD7
    @FASWORLD7 День тому +2

    Boeing even cut corners on their space program. Good thing the Astronauts are not whisleblowers, but they sure are being treated like one 😂😂

  • @owensparks5013
    @owensparks5013 2 дні тому +5

    If we delay long enough, then maybe the helium will leak back in?

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 дні тому +1

      Or NASA admin will put lives first, letting the engineers delay just long enough that there's insuffcient Helium left to do the job.

  • @timwood6115
    @timwood6115 2 дні тому +3

    It’s good that you pointed out that the astronauts are not in any danger. NASA should let the astronauts stay on the ISS and send the Starliner back to Earth without the crew. I have a bad feeling about this situation. It has the ingredients for disaster because there is the potential for politics to influence a technical decision. Boeing and NASA would look bad if they send Starliner back to Earth without a crew. Is there any way to find out if NASA is preparing a contingency plan, such as moving up the next crew Dragon mission?

  • @markwebber9883
    @markwebber9883 2 дні тому +2

    NASA should already have declared Starliner unsafe. If the ship was on the ground, with the known issues, there is no way they would launch. Why launch with people at risk, just because the ship is in orbit?

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw День тому

      Theyvwould have but the financial kickbacks from Boeing are hard to let go off.

  • @irrefudiate
    @irrefudiate 2 дні тому

    Space is difficult, but still, the feeling that Boeing quality control is slacking is hard to shake. I'm sure they'll iron out the bugs, but I'm reminded of the scene in "City Slickers", where Mitch and Curly are riding out one morning, having a 'friendly' chit-chat and a bemused Mitch asks Curly, "So, did you kill anyone today?" and Curly responds, "The day ain't over."

  • @mikewaters2524
    @mikewaters2524 2 дні тому

    Thank you Ellie for strait- cool & best reporting. I warched Sunita Williams years ago on the ISS via NASA TV. I'm happy she got to go again. People in India see her as the astronaut from India but of course she is a US Test Pilot. You are the best reporter for Space & Tesla Tech development & congrats for the 100 K plack. 🎉

  • @1981Frederick
    @1981Frederick 2 дні тому +2

    at this rate that capsule will reach the end of it's planned life before starting it's contracted mission

  • @kenworks6068
    @kenworks6068 20 годин тому

    I feel the Starliner will found to be safe enough to ride home in. Truster plumbing troubles in the service module have plagued it so bad a redesign should be considered. SpaceX does well because they are willing criticize their own work and use the lessons learned to improve the design. Making a few more capsules now and then is how you stay in the space hardware business.

  • @Bitterrootbackroads
    @Bitterrootbackroads 2 дні тому +2

    0:32 Boeing door goes flying, oops forgot those darn bolts again!

  • @twelvewingproductions7508
    @twelvewingproductions7508 5 годин тому

    3:16
    She's struggling here because I think even in the back of her own head she has to question why a parallel engineering effort with basically the exact same deliverables... was completed 5 years earlier.
    As to what's going on, I think that everyone involved is trying to give Boeing all the benefit they can short of doing something that is actually dangerous.
    It really doesn't do anyone any good to heap things on, but the reality is that the endurance for starliner was supposed to be what... 45 days? Something like a max of 60 days? I'm not sure if there is a "dormant" mode like there is for Dragon and what kind of timeline that puts things on.
    The reality, however, is that this isn't Space X's first rescue mission. They had to already rescue soviet astronauts from the station did they not?
    So no harm in having a Crew Dragon bring down a couple extra folk again.

  • @arthurwagar88
    @arthurwagar88 2 дні тому +1

    Well done video. Me thinks those two astronauts are a bit worried. What are they doing with their extra time?

  • @righteousisthelord180
    @righteousisthelord180 2 дні тому +3

    Dear Lord can you imagine. It’s like asking them to take a ride on the Titan sub.

    • @michaelpodolak6815
      @michaelpodolak6815 День тому

      Hey don't question ESG and DEI that's racist and bigoted just ask the king of woke Larry (the f@ck stick) Fink. After all people's safety is not important if you have DEI in the system.

  • @boatbyrd
    @boatbyrd 2 дні тому +2

    Right at about :44 the door blows off! Hahahaha

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 2 дні тому +1

    Great video Ellie. Is it a possibility that the astronauts will come back on a SpaceX Dragon capsule?

  • @yoursoulisforever
    @yoursoulisforever День тому

    Concise and professional. Thanks Ellie. Brave also because you could face a lot of blowback. Keep up the good work!

  • @CmdrPPanda
    @CmdrPPanda 2 дні тому +4

    Well, I think that the excuse of Boeing and NASA will be like....
    Sorry, after that, our space suits run out of oxygen. (Problems with discomfort and Water)
    Therefore, We cannot realize the external safety tests for undocking.
    And we must call the dragon for help. Nice, face-saver.

  • @rickerr8481
    @rickerr8481 2 дні тому

    Fantastic Space News in all your factual, Honest Candor., you are doing excellent reporting work, Outstanding!
    Ellie News Network! ENN, Thanks!
    Hope Jarred Isaacson invites you to ride along in his MIG 29 Foxbat and experience the Cobra flight maneuver too....haha

  • @tanagra2
    @tanagra2 День тому +2

    Look at second 31 of this video. The Boeing Starliners door falls off.

  • @Gjudxdkjyzddhjnr7091
    @Gjudxdkjyzddhjnr7091 23 години тому

    Having to send Sunni & Butch home in a Dragon capsule would be another huge humiliation for Boeing. This is far better than losing them and the capsule if a safe re-entry cannot be affected though

  • @rickpetersen5728
    @rickpetersen5728 2 дні тому +2

    Window cover flying off (00:36) during transport is another sign of Boeing’s incompetence.

  • @daveoatway6126
    @daveoatway6126 2 дні тому

    Very well done and professional video. It is hard to know what we can trust from both Boeing and NASA. We have no basis for any opinion. There does not seem to be transparency until an incident investigation. You should not be receiving any push back for honest and professional reporting. The government needs to be honest with us so we can make decisions about what and whom to support. Glad you are living the exciting life you are enjoying!

  • @RichTrost
    @RichTrost 18 годин тому

    My guess is that it will return safely in due time but the next Starliner flight will suffer a lengthy delay while the helium leaks and thruster issues are addressed, likely needing many months to resolve. My guess and worth every penny!

  • @SteichenFamily
    @SteichenFamily 2 дні тому +4

    0:32 Did it's door just fall off? 😮 (Boeing 🤦)

  • @charleslord2433
    @charleslord2433 2 дні тому

    As I understand it, the faulty systems are in the service module which is jettisoned before deorbit. Therefore any tests or troubleshooting has to be done while in orbit. The longer they stay, the more data they will have for diagnosing how to resolve these. I do believe that it is a matter of more data collection rather than crew safety.

  • @Sam_Saraguy
    @Sam_Saraguy 2 дні тому +5

    I'll remain skeptical until someone explains why it is taking so long for the engineers to "study the problem." It's been three weeks already.

    • @woodym2
      @woodym2 День тому

      In what universe do studies not require time? What is your big rush?

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw День тому

      I think the delay is because nasa doesn't feel like the starliner is capable of a safe return. I believe they are hoping they can fix the pos so they do not have to return the astronauts on a SpaceX or Russian craft. Boeings future is in the balance.

    • @MR-xc3sw
      @MR-xc3sw День тому

      ​@@woodym2when nasa says " study" what they really mean is the craft isn't capable of returning the astronauts alive and nasa hopes it can fix the issues so SpaceX or the Russians aren't needed.

  • @dalesmith924
    @dalesmith924 2 дні тому +1

    Finally a fact-based vlog. Thank you for what you do.

  • @toms.3977
    @toms.3977 12 годин тому

    Stranded is when you're stuck on another planet and your ride isn't coming. That's stranded.

  • @thomasanthony2970
    @thomasanthony2970 День тому +1

    They knew the problem of the helium valve still they sent them in space.

  • @minerwilly
    @minerwilly 2 дні тому +3

    It's true that there should be more than one type of service vehicle, but Boeing really should be forced to pay some penalties at this stage or this rubbish is never going to end.
    People with a political agenda may get upset about calling it a potential rescue mission, but given Boeing's atrocious safety record over recent times I certainly wouldn't want to fly on a Starliner.

  • @duaneevenson1670
    @duaneevenson1670 День тому

    We can't rag on Boeing too much. Their participation in the program 10 years ago calmed a lot of Congress and NASA fears about commercial space companies transporting NASA astronauts. This allowed companies like SpaceX to compete because there was always Boeing to depend on if things went badly with the newer organizations.

  • @kenkellalea329
    @kenkellalea329 2 дні тому

    Very interesting

  • @LordVader5738
    @LordVader5738 2 дні тому +2

    My jaw is still on the floor @0:32 😦