How Bad Is This AI Music? Let's Listen

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  • @teemulusua3725
    @teemulusua3725 9 місяців тому +504

    The irony that we're automating the production of art instead of the jobs everybody hates shouldn't be lost on us.

    • @VideoArchiveGuy
      @VideoArchiveGuy 9 місяців тому +37

      Actually, AI is automating EVERYTHING, art OR tedious jobs.

    • @maxonmendel5757
      @maxonmendel5757 9 місяців тому +62

      ​@@VideoArchiveGuybut we blue collar people still get up at 5am every morning to help your ai generated world run.
      workers deserve better.

    • @tammy1001
      @tammy1001 9 місяців тому +12

      ​@@maxonmendel5757AI is coming for white collar jobs not blue. For once you are more safe than others when big changes are happening.

    • @VideoArchiveGuy
      @VideoArchiveGuy 9 місяців тому +29

      @@tammy1001 AI is coming for any job it's possible to do using AI.
      Some jobs - typically skilled crafts - will be immune.
      AI will not be doing finish carpentry or installing cabinets anytime soon, nor many jobs in the construction trades, for example.

    • @herroberbesserwisser7331
      @herroberbesserwisser7331 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@tammy1001if jobs are automated by ai why aren't the workers happy? If automization happens, doesn't it help the people? Less work needs to be done so less people have to work for the same quality of life as production can increase.

  • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328
    @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328 10 місяців тому +726

    Some Pop music has been so quantized, processed and formulated that it might as well be AI.

    • @Genious.
      @Genious. 10 місяців тому +37

      I've been finding that most pop music still has a tiny bit of soul, heart and humanity to it and finally, AI will be able to eradicate that completely.

    • @transformationgeneration
      @transformationgeneration 10 місяців тому +4

      well said. @@Genious.

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому +11

      exactly. pop has been working towards the artificial sound for so long, it just made it easier to cross the gap. most other genres are equally as guilty though.

    • @vaporman442
      @vaporman442 10 місяців тому +6

      The ironically funny thing about that is that AI is making it possible to bring a more human feel to quantization (randomizing small timing fluctuations to make it sound less robotic.)

    • @noneatallatanytime
      @noneatallatanytime 10 місяців тому +4

      There really is no difference. It is just one more added step of automation.

  • @matslarsson5988
    @matslarsson5988 10 місяців тому +274

    I think a bigger problem with AI is kids not understanding why they should learn to play instruments or paint a picture when they can get instant results without having to work for it. I hear that kind of questions on repeat like a mantra from young people at the moment. Playing guitar and drawing has been what gives me energy to go on day after day. Taking that away from coming generations would be a sad thing indeed.

    • @ericporter1255
      @ericporter1255 10 місяців тому +17

      Agreed. Kids nowadays are hunting for that instant gratification that only short cuts can provide. Imagine dropping your kid off at the local music store for his AI lessons

    • @katrinavons.
      @katrinavons. 10 місяців тому +32

      I'm in an burnout rehab center right now, and guess what? Patients get to do therapies which involve creativity all of the time! Painting, drawing, pottery, sculpting, music,... They learn to express themselves and their feelings and feel joy - again. This is what art is for, in my opinion.
      Don't let kids and adults rob themselves from this source of joy and aliveness. Humans need all of this "useless stuff" to stay sane.

    • @matslarsson5988
      @matslarsson5988 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@katrinavons.Good luck with burnout rehab. Sounds like something I'd need.

    • @hesselvanderkooij4825
      @hesselvanderkooij4825 9 місяців тому +9

      Agree with you so much. This was NOT what we got promised 20 years ago when AI was just a Dream.

    • @dominusblandus
      @dominusblandus 9 місяців тому +12

      same but different: my trainee asked me why there should be live-concerts at all if you could just play the (perfect mix) music from tape... he said he never has been to a proper musicfestival or rock-conert. I think its a strange lack of experience the real deal.

  • @NietsdlogKram
    @NietsdlogKram 10 місяців тому +49

    “If I knew where the good songs come from I’d go there more often.”
    - Leonard Cohen

  • @nerfbutt
    @nerfbutt 10 місяців тому +108

    It sounds like the system was trained exclusively on stock music. The sounds and riffs remind me of all the stock music I've used for years.

    • @oliverholland7236
      @oliverholland7236 9 місяців тому +22

      Exactly, the first thing I thought was that it sounds like generics, copyright free background music on a vlog.

    • @trustedsource1273
      @trustedsource1273 9 місяців тому +5

      Same. The royalty free libraries to make corporate videos or lessons. Not free, royalty free.

    • @maxonmendel5757
      @maxonmendel5757 9 місяців тому +8

      I think what we're missing is that stock music is still made by humans for money 💰

    • @joethompson9124
      @joethompson9124 9 місяців тому +7

      Yes, I guarantee they only used stock royalty free music to train it. Garbage in, garbage out.

    • @Invisible-Rhino
      @Invisible-Rhino 9 місяців тому

      reluctantly, and to a horrible strict formula yeah @@maxonmendel5757

  • @christibbotts4410
    @christibbotts4410 9 місяців тому +79

    for all the real musicians out here, nothing will kill the joy of musicians making music together jamming

    • @braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361
      @braulindisla-elburrodelaba5361 9 місяців тому +1

      True

    • @ssmithstudios
      @ssmithstudios 8 місяців тому +11

      Absolutely. I'm physically disabled and music saved my life. I'm a mixer, guitarist, songwriter, etc...I found purpose in making and producing music. Is it always good? Nah. I try though, and I have fun doing it.

    • @jeremyhilton6
      @jeremyhilton6 8 місяців тому

      You'll see

    • @danamundy1187
      @danamundy1187 7 місяців тому +1

      I totally agree!!! 👍🏽👍🏽

  • @chrisishoy7924
    @chrisishoy7924 10 місяців тому +556

    The second Boston album had disclaimers: “No synthesizers used, No computers used.” We need a new disclaimer, “No A.I. used”.

    • @chaos120
      @chaos120 10 місяців тому +28

      I think at least one rage against the machine album says something like "all sounds created by guitar"

    • @chaos120
      @chaos120 10 місяців тому +10

      Some people will lie

    • @staggerlee7301
      @staggerlee7301 10 місяців тому +1

      @@chaos120I’m pretty sure every Rage album had that, but I could be misremembering

    • @davidbroadfoot1864
      @davidbroadfoot1864 10 місяців тому +14

      "No computers used" implies "no AI used."

    • @louiebee6745
      @louiebee6745 10 місяців тому +24

      70s Queen albums as well.

  • @madbug1965
    @madbug1965 10 місяців тому +89

    I've followed artists like Jackson Browne and Bruce Springsteen my whole live. I've grown up with them and grown old with them. I don't think AI generated music can give me that kind of life experience..,

    • @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
      @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 9 місяців тому

      @@FREEDOM_OR_DEATH_ Lossless earbuds?

    • @Gustavo_PerezRamirez
      @Gustavo_PerezRamirez 9 місяців тому +18

      The problem is new audiences don't really care where the music comes from as long as it is catchy enough to use it on their lame TikTok's and IG stories.

    • @josephmayfield945
      @josephmayfield945 9 місяців тому

      Art has becoming disposable commodity to the general public.
      They don’t care.

    • @thirstyhorsemongolia6264
      @thirstyhorsemongolia6264 9 місяців тому +4

      Never a truer word spoken.

    • @andrewichigo
      @andrewichigo 9 місяців тому

      The issue will be the newer generations who'll be bombarded with this kind of music instead. We can rely on past expeirences and their associated sounds. The peopel really delving into music in 5 to 10 years will only have human-less sounds churned out by the baker's dozen every hour by a computer.

  • @busterjumper1
    @busterjumper1 9 місяців тому +95

    “This music is still better than the Spotify top ten!” Funniest Rick quote EVER. Love your work mate!❤

    • @Guitar_by_aalataur
      @Guitar_by_aalataur 9 місяців тому +16

      It was from the chat

    • @axecalibore
      @axecalibore 9 місяців тому +3

      I think that's probably true. Real music is in a lamentable state of disrepair nowadays.

    • @u.v.s.5583
      @u.v.s.5583 8 місяців тому

      Truth hurts! Nothing funny there, sad reality :))

  • @charlesdoca7145
    @charlesdoca7145 9 місяців тому +121

    So glad I'm 62 and grew up listening to real music! Enough with fixing everything to death. Let's go back to singers who could sing and players who could play. Imperfections are beautiful and the risks are thrilling.

    • @OZRIC1985
      @OZRIC1985 9 місяців тому +5

      AMEN!!!

    • @Invisible-Rhino
      @Invisible-Rhino 9 місяців тому +3

      you sir are gold

    • @JohnSmith-pn4it
      @JohnSmith-pn4it 9 місяців тому +3

      60 yo here and I couldn't agree more!

    • @Flagrazi
      @Flagrazi 9 місяців тому +3

      Thank you 55 here

    • @SusanHarris-Hummert
      @SusanHarris-Hummert 9 місяців тому +4

      Karen Carpenter needed nothing. Her voice was velvet and spot on each time.

  • @ethanp1erce
    @ethanp1erce 10 місяців тому +86

    I’m getting major keyboard demo track vibes from all these

    • @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
      @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx 9 місяців тому +3

      Those demo tracks are written and recorded by people.

    • @nickmonk7945
      @nickmonk7945 9 місяців тому

      I couldn’t put my finger on it, but you’ve summed up what I thought nicely

    • @Nobddy
      @Nobddy 9 місяців тому

      ⁠@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xxyeah, people who are phoning it in

    • @joethompson9124
      @joethompson9124 9 місяців тому +4

      I guarantee they only used stock royalty free music to train it. Garbage in, garbage out.

    • @Strideo1
      @Strideo1 9 місяців тому

      Just like a lot of generic music used in various ads right now.

  • @xn--fci
    @xn--fci 10 місяців тому +130

    I agree that AI generated content should not be copyrighted... because an AI modeler can run continuously to build every conceivable chord, tempo and melody combination; which would cripple any real songwriting.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 9 місяців тому +9

      I wrote a program to do that 20 years ago. The problem was most sounded like crap. But I searched for the theme to _Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind_ in the output and found it.

    • @Cyber.Lynx.
      @Cyber.Lynx. 9 місяців тому +7

      Took the words right out of my mouth. It would be the realization of the infinite monkey theorem only with lawyers. Shoot me now, please.

    • @nathan87
      @nathan87 9 місяців тому +12

      This whole argument must re-examine the fundamental reasons copyright was invented to begin with and whether they apply to AI generated music. In short, copyright should apply to work that is the result of substantial human labour done without compensation, to allow the author to be compensated after the fact. Hitting a button and generating music in a fraction of the time that it would take a traditional musician is simply not that, so copyright should not apply.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 9 місяців тому +6

      @@nathan87 A human can always say that they wrote it and ai had nothing to do with it.

    • @jameshughes3014
      @jameshughes3014 9 місяців тому +2

      Damien Riehl and Noah Rubin already did something like that, in 2020. I don't think it required AI to do it.

  • @edwoll
    @edwoll 10 місяців тому +11

    Nobody's laughing at the white hoodie. Don't be paranoid about your hoodie. Nothing wrong with the hoodie.

  • @rmatson
    @rmatson 9 місяців тому +5

    RB, Profound gratitude for the video and keeping us updated on developments. I hope there'll always be a place for human musicians who play live music.

  • @jguitar23
    @jguitar23 9 місяців тому +9

    So glad I started learning guitar before AI music went mainstream! Nothing can compare to the satisfaction of producing notes with your own fingers! Trains your brain, soul & body at once♡

  • @qwertyzxaszc6323
    @qwertyzxaszc6323 10 місяців тому +17

    Far better than most of the canned music I hear on UA-cam videos. I have a feeling we are entering the golden age of background music on UA-cam videos. lol

    • @Invisible-Rhino
      @Invisible-Rhino 9 місяців тому +1

      it will make it exactly like that though no golden age - just the capturing of what you currently hate and it's elevation to the new high standard

  • @Rib13Bass
    @Rib13Bass 10 місяців тому +5

    Its important to remember that we are at the beginning of this technology........imagine 20, 30, or 50 years from now ( providing anyone is around to listen at that time)

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому

      with all due respect, but please look up how quickly AI image generation evolved from nightmarish weird digital paintings to full blown photorealism and adjust your timeframe slightly🫠

  • @RockessentialTim
    @RockessentialTim 10 місяців тому +255

    This is gonna put a lot of infomercial composers out of business

    • @BurnsRubber
      @BurnsRubber 10 місяців тому +19

      You mean, like all of them. 😂

    • @RickReasonnz
      @RickReasonnz 10 місяців тому +22

      And this is the target of these companies. I find the chat hilarious how they found this 'bad' when these tunes are not made for the high discerning musician in mind. For filler segments, for tv/radio ads, background of videos, these tunes are really going to find their place.

    • @RockessentialTim
      @RockessentialTim 10 місяців тому +14

      Exactly! My guess is we're already hearing it constantly and just don't realize it @@RickReasonnz

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 10 місяців тому +15

      And in a few years putting all entry and amateur level freelance musicians out of business. You might be skeptical but that's how it is regarding text and programming already. It's only a matter of time.

    • @arqoo1907
      @arqoo1907 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@zxbc1so genuine, or real, musicians need to adapt. Playing "live" music will be one way to differentiate yourself from a robot. Singing with an accent, playing your instrument with a unique style, using clever and/or meaningful lyrics or poetry should all allow differentiation.
      Or maybe us musicians need to release videos alongside our uploads - to prove we're not AI and that it's really a human singing or playing...
      Once AI gets its hands on the nuclear button it won't matter anyway 😅

  • @gerrycoogan6544
    @gerrycoogan6544 9 місяців тому +25

    I'll start panicking when AI starts to produce masterpieces such as Glenn Miller's "Chattanooga Choo-Choo", Sinatra's "I've Got You Under My Skin", Procul Harum's "A Whiter Shade Of Pale", The Beatles' "Strawberry Fields Forever", "A Day In The Life", "I Am The Walrus", Paul Simon's "Graceland" and "Rhythm Of The Saints" albums, Steely Dan's "Aja" and "Gaucho", Ray Davies singing "Waterloo Sunset", "Sunny Afternoon" or "Dead End Street", Neil Young performing ""The Needle And The Damage Done" or "Old Man".
    And that's just a few from the top of my head.
    "Supper's Ready".
    "Bohemian Rhapsody".
    "Like A Rolling Stone".
    And so on.
    The problem with AI is not that it is going to reach the heights of musicality which makes it indistinguishable from great art.
    The problem is that the listening public is being dumbed down to the point that they now accept utter shite as the equivalent of great artistry in the field of music.
    I'd rather hear a bum note in a Beatles, SInatra or Dylan classic than endure a sterile, antiseptic, unhuman AI construct which doesn't even come close to reaching my soul and spirit.

    •  9 місяців тому

      The best thing they could do is have input as a simple piano sheet or tab, then convert them to proper music, with all kind of instruments, arrangements,...

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 9 місяців тому

      You're right, AI will be subpar but good enough to totally wreck the industry. But then it will get better than the Beatles. There's no reason to believe there's an upper bound on capabilities.
      Also AI extinction theories make too much sense to be ignored to the extent that they're currently being ignored.
      We need to shut it down immediately.

  • @jameshughes3014
    @jameshughes3014 9 місяців тому +20

    when doing traditional image art, i feed sketches to AI to help make reference images, and it has boosted my creativity and helped me expand as an artist, even though I don't use the AI in my final image. I suspect this kind of thing will be the same with AI music. Just a new tool in the toolbox as far as I'm concerned, I'm excited for it.

    • @robotron07
      @robotron07 9 місяців тому +2

      people don’t understand that AI is a refined tool that is most effective when you have the basis of your craft down, to create quality products with its help you are better off when you lñknow how to draw pint play etc the more you know the best results you will produce in collaboration with AI

    • @jameshughes3014
      @jameshughes3014 9 місяців тому +1

      @@robotron07 yeah I can understand that. I feel like traditional artists who haven't played with the stuff only see the generic output that floods the net, and it kind of makes them think it's all trash. It's cool, you can make good music with a rubber band and shoe box, and good art with a pencil. Or use computers or synths.. as long as you're expressing yourself, imo

    • @johng1412
      @johng1412 9 місяців тому

      @@jameshughes3014 what AI are you using? I am interested in using it just as you have described.

    • @jameshughes3014
      @jameshughes3014 9 місяців тому

      @@johng1412What I use is almost a year old, so probably outdated but I like it. I've got a half way decent video card so I installed automatic1111 locally, which is an interface. It makes installing the rest of the stuff pretty easy. Using that I installed stable diffusion, and the addon called controlnet. controlnet is really what unlocks the great image to image features that let me feed in my sketches, and its all on my PC so it doesn't take forever and cost any money. If you have an nvidia card with enough VRAM, just look up vids about automatic1111, it'll walk you through the steps.

  • @dylanemmanuel8915
    @dylanemmanuel8915 10 місяців тому +9

    If you can smoke two joints, and AI music starts making you feel something, then we have a problem

  • @kevincummins3438
    @kevincummins3438 10 місяців тому +11

    Better than the Spotify top ten------ great, hilarious but so true. 🇮🇪🙏

  • @zomaa777
    @zomaa777 10 місяців тому +135

    AI may be able to mimic sequences but the spirit of what makes music transformative is still found within the creative soul of minds breathing in songs.
    Computers do not feel, sleep nor dream....

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 10 місяців тому +22

      People used to say that about creative writing, and look where AI is now. It's only a matter of time, trust me.

    • @curtisbryce5096
      @curtisbryce5096 10 місяців тому +4

      It is like autotune, yes it can hold the note BUT singing is about hitting the note, not sustaining it. . . . . . what the hell do I know?

    • @gp33music41
      @gp33music41 10 місяців тому +3

      Record companies won't see it that way

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 10 місяців тому

      Creative soul is too abstract for it to matter. I dont know why humans keep insisting on these unquantifiable abstract things to differentiate us from machines, conciousness and soul cant be defined, detected heard or felt. Its literally Not Going to matter and youre dishonest if you like a a piece and then suddenly dislike it after finding out its Ai. Its not a matter ofif, but when it will start fooling anti ai people. Its already happening in art.

    • @chadlyb8914
      @chadlyb8914 10 місяців тому +6

      Very romantic idealism 🫣

  • @MrVidification
    @MrVidification 9 місяців тому +5

    Ambient style is calm, simple and generally easier to accept. It's harder to mess it up

  • @georgemcduffey2622
    @georgemcduffey2622 10 місяців тому +5

    I agree with you that 100% AI generated music should Not be allowed to be copyrighted. It should go straight to public domain...Then, if a human/band wanted to "cover" the song they'd have the right to their version of it.

  • @darkmatter4752
    @darkmatter4752 10 місяців тому +15

    Can't wait to hear how your testimony goes!! I wish you would break down a Big Wreck song. They just dropped another EP yesterday called Pages 1

  • @oasisbeyond
    @oasisbeyond 10 місяців тому +15

    Imagine when AI wins album of the year. It will happen eventually.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 9 місяців тому +7

      It can't be any worse than an Ed Sheeran album.

    • @dthorne4602
      @dthorne4602 9 місяців тому

      ​@@onesong2001 it'll probably sound identical

  • @danytalksmusic
    @danytalksmusic 10 місяців тому +19

    Rick is starting to look like Obi Wan 😂

  • @monomixer
    @monomixer 9 місяців тому +5

    Half of audiojungle sounds like this already. So I’d say it’s not too bad for low budget video production

  • @kyleyoungmusic
    @kyleyoungmusic 9 місяців тому +11

    7:03 that subtle roast… 😂 This is too good. Great upload, Rick 😂🔥🙏

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому +2

      Then he says "it's better than the Spotify top ten" 😂

  • @michaelschneider603
    @michaelschneider603 10 місяців тому +32

    Now let's see how long it will take for a first episode of "What makes this song great?" on a fully AI generated song. :-)

    • @timgant7141
      @timgant7141 10 місяців тому +2

      By an AI generated Rick Beato no less!

    • @blainekelley816
      @blainekelley816 10 місяців тому +5

      As laughable and bad so many of these tracks are today, it won’t be long before AI-generated music is the norm in a lot of what we hear … 😢

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 9 місяців тому

      @@blainekelley816 Like all crap music, only if you choose to listen to it.

    • @joethompson9124
      @joethompson9124 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@blainekelley816 This whole comment section is such a circle jerk for "the good old days" when music was "real" or whatever. Just listen to and support what you like, and ignore the rest... apparently that's too much to ask.

  • @JerryTheVeganRockstar
    @JerryTheVeganRockstar 10 місяців тому +15

    Sounds like early midi, which sounded like a player piano. Look where midi is after 30 years. This will develop faster. Keep an eye on it and learn it. But overall it makes me miss my Roland R8 drum machine

  • @GlennJackson-d8e
    @GlennJackson-d8e 10 місяців тому +7

    They will be using this for hold music on the phone.

  • @bbellefson
    @bbellefson 9 місяців тому +40

    So far, those AI clips have all the personality as a Casio preset.

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 9 місяців тому +10

      Hey, that 16-beat preset got me hyper as a little kid.

    • @shyboy2112
      @shyboy2112 9 місяців тому +3

      give it 6 months

    • @vandpiben
      @vandpiben 9 місяців тому +1

      Its not AI its automated statistics

    • @jessejordache1869
      @jessejordache1869 9 місяців тому

      @@vandpiben That's sort of what modern AI is: massive amounts of data that spit out polynomials until you get an output that you want. Unless you're arguing that AI isn't TRUE AI, since it's not symbolic logic like the early attempts at AI were, which is defensible.
      I'd like to know what the target is for music: the AI has to be able to distinguish between "wack" and "street banger!" when it's learning.

    • @vandpiben
      @vandpiben 9 місяців тому

      @@jessejordache1869 "intelligence" requires a value system in order to differentiate between good and bad. Life has this in build because every cell is fighting for its life/replication. The ego is a super structure of this.
      A computer doesnt have this hardwired in every neuron. It is dictated by us, what to prioritize or not. Thats just a "tool" without integrity/self-reliance, its nothing but a better calculator. Pareidolia is the phenomena of spotting faces in the sky, it doesnt mean there are faces, it just looks like it. AI is a scam in the sense that it is being marketed as if it was more than just numbers being indexed, filtered and ordered, when it is nothing more than just that. It looks like it has a "self" but it is really just numbers being shown like a face in the sky. And people fall for this. Thats how they are being tricked.
      Disclaimer: I work with "AI" in a quantitative hedge fund.

  • @samanthacollier8933
    @samanthacollier8933 9 місяців тому +5

    12:56 thats called “drum and bass” music Rick! Would love to see some electronic music content on your channel 😅

  • @lschexnaider
    @lschexnaider 10 місяців тому +11

    The question is whether AI can create entirely new type of music? I just bought an actual couple of CDs to rip: Kind of Blue by Miles Davis and Take Five by the Dave Brubeck Quartet. Will AI ever be able to take everything in a certain genre and make something really new like those two albums?

  • @kencory2476
    @kencory2476 10 місяців тому +7

    Rick's memory lapses dovetail very nicely with AI's inadequacies.

  • @To.Si.Ma.
    @To.Si.Ma. 10 місяців тому +11

    Those first acoustic tracks sound like ethno-teletubbi stuff.
    Funny thing is that music in the 80s, 90s and beyond already turned into AI level.
    Next do Flamenco, Jazz, Jazz-Rock, Bossa Nova, Psychadelic Rock.

  • @KitagumaIgen
    @KitagumaIgen 10 місяців тому +11

    It seems as if it will be "challenging" to get AI to make anything with purpose - artists, writers, musicians, anyone really makes stuff with some purpose, while AI mainly makes stuff because someone pushes a button. The difference might not be too big on the run-of-the-mill eurodisco song or airport-bookshop novel, but other than that I think we will notice.

    • @kevinvitale8980
      @kevinvitale8980 9 місяців тому +1

      Agree… I think AI will ‘train’ future generations this your new expectations. Mediocre, bland works. They will not know what is good if all they are is exposed to this drivel.

  • @MaxTooney
    @MaxTooney 9 місяців тому +5

    As if the musical accompaniment isn't bad enough on UA-cam videos, we have THIS to look forward to. Yeesh!

  • @limassoljudobysavvas5352
    @limassoljudobysavvas5352 10 місяців тому +5

    8:05 that was cold

  • @brianjay9811
    @brianjay9811 9 місяців тому +7

    It's all fun and games until AI eventually creates music better than any musician or composer in history. Don't doubt me when I say this is coming much sooner than we think. The question is, "Once AI surpasses the music industry in raw talent, creativity, and creates millions of songs which captivate the world, what happens to all of the passionate and dedicated musicians?" We've faced this in the photography world, the fine art world, and now it’s the music world's turn ponder this vexing question.
    My take it that AI is no joke. It is sucking the creativity and romance out of this world and leaving in its wake people who will be unable to gather together a large enough audience to support them or even appreciate their years of training and amazing talent...

  • @nessy9022
    @nessy9022 10 місяців тому +7

    If I made a living as a jingle writer I'd definitely be looking to branch into other fields asap.

  • @mitchellcutler2888
    @mitchellcutler2888 9 місяців тому +3

    I can see this being useful for background music in instructional or product videos and that's about it. That or anything on Spotify.

  • @BirdYoumans
    @BirdYoumans 10 місяців тому +1

    My take so far on AI is this. I haven't listened to much of it, but did hear some "Beatles" stuff. While it did indeed sound "Beatlesque", it did not sound fresh. For those that remember, every time the Beatles released new music, it had basically moved on from the last album and always had something new and fresh to offer. The AI stuff just sort of takes bits and pieces of their "signature sound" and rehashes it so to speak.
    But here's how I would use it. When I sit and play "sounds", or patches from my synths or sound files, it puts me in a certain mood when I hear certain things and causes me to go places I probably would not go "sitting by the river" so to speak. So as I was listening to some of the things you were playing, most was junk, but there was a gem or two in there that might trigger an emotion or a "beat" or a texture, that sort of thing within me. But if you take that germ and then put the human mind and emotion into it, expand it and actually play the parts, I can see where a hybrid could be quite good. I suppose you could say use it for inspiration. It's going to come down to mining the gems from the dirt and separating the stone and then cut and put the polish on it to get it ready for the setting. Just one man's thoughts. And don't forget, only one out of a thousand records made by humans is worth listening to as well. And it might not even be that good of a percentage. We just mostly never hear the junk because it doesn't make it to the charts.

    • @angela_somanythings5670
      @angela_somanythings5670 9 місяців тому

      Yes, I agree. I also think some of the comments are from people only catching the gems because the rest of the song is so BAD 😅

  • @ereceeme
    @ereceeme 10 місяців тому +6

    A good course on music appreciation specific to certain music genres would be great.

  • @ajlambe1340
    @ajlambe1340 10 місяців тому +5

    AI is at ground zero in terms of music. I can imagine it improving in terms of complexity but not in terms of genuine feeling. It will be able to create beats and dance music pretty easily as time goes on, I’m sure it will. But deliver a song like Bruce Springsteen’s Highway Patrolman or Neil Young’s The Needle and the Damage Done or Cohen’s Suzanne. Don’t hold your breath.

  • @datfly3034
    @datfly3034 10 місяців тому +53

    It may be pretty bad now, but it’ll get a lot better - and probably sooner than expected. As others have said, the fact of its existence is concerning enough.

    • @staggerlee7301
      @staggerlee7301 10 місяців тому +14

      Concerning and honestly just depressing. Sad to see so many embrace the idea of it imposing on and maybe even snuffing out human expression. I’d like to remain hopeful. But yeah, we’ll find out because there’s no getting off this ride.

    • @colinjames2469
      @colinjames2469 10 місяців тому

      dream on

    • @ralphbenitez4407
      @ralphbenitez4407 10 місяців тому +6

      When we are no longer working because AI replaced us in our jobs, I’d like to see how the government is going to get AI to pay taxes.

    • @pvanukoff
      @pvanukoff 9 місяців тому

      @@ralphbenitez4407 The concept of humans working is going to become obsolete and sooner than we think. No telling what's on the other side of that hill, but it's going to be painful getting there.

  • @Paschendale2
    @Paschendale2 9 місяців тому +3

    If there's an AI voice model of Rick's voice, it is customary to make it sing Rap God by Eminem.

  • @javatar1900
    @javatar1900 10 місяців тому +1

    the word was tumbling in my mind, and you said it! regurgitate! Some of what you played felt like an 80s time machine. I am 66, I will always remember years ago, the first time I play Yes Fragile for my son, almost 40. He was stunned.

  • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
    @M4TCH3SM4L0N3 10 місяців тому +10

    Unfortunately, I have seen how even the truly most abysmal writing has taken over my wife's field of freelance writing and editing. The biggest issue is that even though nobody wants to accept AI writing, they still expect the price of real writers to come down in line with the absolutely massive number of shitty spam accounts selling their work for nothing with absolutely no quality control. They don't care if people give them poor ratings because their prices are so low that people will still hire them, and they churn out garbage in no time, so they still come out slightly ahead. Meanwhile, the writers who don't have significant client bases and don't drop their rates aren't getting contracts or the work they do get is way underpriced for the client expectations. It's obscene.

    • @hillehai
      @hillehai 9 місяців тому +3

      It's so depressing that this is the way we're moving. As someone who is just starting to have some success as a composer, knowing that I probably won't be able to get any work in a few years and any music I create will be burried between thousands upon thousands of AI-generated pieces is just crushing. I wonder what the great composers, artists, writers etc. that came before would say to something like this. I almost feel inclined to call AI "art" an 'abomination' at this point.

    • @M4TCH3SM4L0N3
      @M4TCH3SM4L0N3 9 місяців тому

      @@hillehai take heart!
      No, the industry you work in will not be the same, but it never would have been, either - that's not the way our world works these days, and there was always going to be change, upheaval, and drudgery in the future. Still, that doesn't mean it will be all bad or that the effects will be permanent! You will learn to adapt to the new circumstances or find another way to earn a living while doing what you love, or maybe things might get so bad that society finally wakes up from the corporate-worshipping materialistic nightmare we're all collectively upholding and decides to fight for the right of all workers to earn a fair income with enough leisure time to engage in creative pursuits on their own time without sacrificing sleep, sustenance, or shelter, and you will be happier laboring at another job while still creating beautiful things but for the joy they bring you rather than for a living. Probably not that last one, realistically, but possibly a blend of all of those things. Que será, será.

  • @Quinceps
    @Quinceps 10 місяців тому +19

    The multilanguage thing is a great idea 🎉

  • @darmac8519
    @darmac8519 10 місяців тому +5

    Would love to see or hear congressional hearing if you can get a recording of it....good man rick ❤

  • @roob67
    @roob67 9 місяців тому +5

    I'd love AI to write a Miles Davis/ Jimi Hendrix collaboration record.

  • @Mr8ohms
    @Mr8ohms 10 місяців тому +11

    Music is an human emotional response to someone's life who lived it. AI can't live, it can only mimic and that's what makes it meaningless. It's just another way for AI to take away human expression and purpose in life in exchange for cash for the few.

  • @jpelliz
    @jpelliz 10 місяців тому +25

    You should try Suno next as it has generated vocals and lyrics as well.

    • @relaxmax6808
      @relaxmax6808 10 місяців тому

      Oooh Yeah !

    • @gunty752
      @gunty752 10 місяців тому

      Yeah sunk is next level

    • @jeanhing
      @jeanhing 10 місяців тому +4

      yes Suno AI is really surprising. You need to test some keyword combination. You get at the end a prototype song that is better than a lot of amateur bands.🤐

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому +2

      try putting 'live' or 'practice' into a suno prompt and witness how it obliterates the notion that ai can't do human.

    • @kokopelli314
      @kokopelli314 10 місяців тому

      The phrasing and articulation of lyrics in Suno is amazing. I would use this as a teaching tool

  • @robshift
    @robshift 10 місяців тому +15

    Rick kicks AI's butt with arpeggios and doesn't break a sweat. Nothing can beat a real musician for connecting to people. I also notice the Soundraw app didn't have jazz in its genre options.

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому

      so... the real musicians who put their art and music into soundraw are inferior? or did you think all this was AI generated music? See the lines getting blurred?

    • @robshift
      @robshift 10 місяців тому

      @@recordednowhere Yes I agree that the lines are blurred, and will only get more so. But I can only go by my gut response to what I heard. The AI music presented left me cold. Rick playing arpeggios didn't. To be fair, much of modern music leaves me cold. I hate the autotuned vocals, the quantized rhythms, the over use of the same chord structures. It works fine in some genres such as dance music, but not in others. The problem for me with the AI music that was in this film is that to me it was the musical equivalent of having a pallet of beautiful colours that you can mix together, but without taste or skill you end up with a pastiche of art at best, or grey-brown sludge at worst.

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому +1

      @@robshift i totally get how you don't connect to 'modern music' (yes not all modern music is the same, there is a definitive countermovement, but it's comparatively tiny) .
      I feel the same way. In an ironic way, popular music dug its own grave by progressively getting more artificial. Quantizing everything to the grid, using samples instead of drums, pitch correcting vocals, comping lines down to syllable level...I have used all of these, but this helped getting people get used to inhuman music. This development can be seen across genres.

    • @robshift
      @robshift 10 місяців тому +1

      @@recordednowhere What's that line in Fight Club? Everything becomes a copy of a copy of a copy. The tools we have now have aided that and like you say, our ears have become trained to over machined music.
      I am an old fogey but I do listen to modern music as I am always keen to find something new. And like you say, it's out there. People will always want to pick up an instrument and create something. That's why I don't really have great concern about AI music. It will fulfil a job that it is good at doing, and almost certainly there will be a point where it won't be worth paying people to make certain genres of music (general pop, some dance, some ambient) because AI does it well enough. But no one wants hamburger all the time, sometimes you want steak.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@recordednowhere
      What are they? "real musicians" that can't think of more than 3 four chord based progressions? 😂 We're not dealing with Bach here, or even Dimebag Darrel or Ani DiFranco.

  • @patriciojofre8531
    @patriciojofre8531 9 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for this content. It is really interesting to see what it is and is not possible to achieve with AI. I don't know if this is the place to ask you, but anyway I'll do it. I love the content of your channel, and I've learnt a lot about how to understand and appreciate music with you; but do you think in future (far or close) it would be possible for you guys, as crew production, to have interviews with musicians from other parts of the world, aside of Europe and The States? I'm from Latin America, and I know for the fact that I always observe your streaming live chat that you have a lot of fans in other parts of the world; and also I know (and I know you know) in Latin America there are great musicians. Well it is just an idea. If it's not possible I will go on watching your videos, because are always fun and full of good information. Thank you so much for everything you do for music.

    • @jessiehermit9503
      @jessiehermit9503 9 місяців тому

      He never reads his comments. Also, he should have Juanez.

  • @kevinmcnamee6006
    @kevinmcnamee6006 9 місяців тому +2

    Music was one of the first things to be impacted by AI, only they didn't call it AI back then. They called it Band in a Box which was released in 1990. Give it a chord sequence and a music style, it could generate music that wasn't too bad. Later editions used real samples from famous solo artists to generate novel solos in a variety of styles.

  • @MichaelRoyal
    @MichaelRoyal 10 місяців тому +15

    Do this episode again as an update in 2 yrs, let's see how far they get with Generative A.I. They will machine learn every song ever made and build from that in a unique way. The World is changing.

    • @osman01003
      @osman01003 10 місяців тому +3

      garbage in garbage out

    • @funnyfromadam
      @funnyfromadam 10 місяців тому +1

      It already learned tons of music genres, styles, and structures. You can make it 5 times bigger (almost impossible i think) and it will still create generectic music. Music it's not like visuals. Also, all existing music in the world will never cover the full spectrum of human creativity.

  • @jeroenneve5807
    @jeroenneve5807 10 місяців тому +11

    Didn't computer assisted composition of pop music already start with Stock, Aitken and Waterman? I should be grateful. They turned me to discover the music of the seventies.

    • @rogerramjet6615
      @rogerramjet6615 10 місяців тому +4

      No S, A & W used electronic keyboards and sound sampling to produce various tones but the songs were written by human.

    • @ChuffingNorah
      @ChuffingNorah 10 місяців тому +6

      SAW would really say: " I should be so lucky - Lucky, Lucky, Lucky!" 🤣😁

    • @rogerramjet6615
      @rogerramjet6615 10 місяців тому +5

      @@ChuffingNorahYes. I think it could be argued that Jason & Kylie are AI robots.

    • @louiebee6745
      @louiebee6745 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ChuffingNorahHaha well said!👍

  • @chadillac2501
    @chadillac2501 10 місяців тому +5

    Rick, I just purchased your Black Friday bundle. It's a great value. Do you ever plan to offer your ear Training course in app form?

  • @08wolfeyes
    @08wolfeyes 9 місяців тому +1

    I would suggest trying ' Suno A.I ', it might just surprise you.
    Create any style of song about anything you wish.
    It generates the music, lyrics, and even the singer/s.
    The free version gives you 50 credits a day to use while there are other paid models.
    It will give you around 50 seconds or so of the song on the free version but in others, you can create full, complete songs.
    Give it a try.

  • @nathanielhunter1280
    @nathanielhunter1280 9 місяців тому +7

    I predict an Ant-Ai genre of music to revolt against the AI created music.

    • @jessiehermit9503
      @jessiehermit9503 9 місяців тому

      I agree.

    • @justincrandall3178
      @justincrandall3178 9 місяців тому

      100%. With AI as a creator, there's no one to celebrate.

    • @youssefghabour4309
      @youssefghabour4309 8 місяців тому

      Maybe microtonal music would work because AI will have difficulty training on different scales

  • @SOUNDRAW_io
    @SOUNDRAW_io 10 місяців тому +7

    We’re not here to replace real musicians. Only make royalty free music accessible to everyone and help make the music creation process more efficient
    All our beats and sounds are produced in house by us, our AI just puts it together in unique ways
    Real Musicians + AI = 🔑

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ 10 місяців тому +5

    Human creation is required for registering a copyright. AI is a tool and not a being and therefore it cannot “own” anything.

  • @topdawg3359
    @topdawg3359 10 місяців тому +7

    Imagine if you could reach all over the world with your videos in every language

    • @albertoramone2
      @albertoramone2 10 місяців тому +4

      Spanish subtitles

    • @1ouncebird
      @1ouncebird 10 місяців тому

      That would be terrifying if used by the likes of a Putin or a Trump. Fascistic lying in all languages? Yikes!

  • @aurematic
    @aurematic 5 місяців тому +1

    Waiting for a SUNO video. That AI is crazy. It creates a full song, bad sound, but full arranged song.

    • @EdArmGuitar
      @EdArmGuitar 5 місяців тому

      Some Suno songs sounds too good!

  • @eyeflow
    @eyeflow 9 місяців тому +7

    May my grandchildren have the choice to listen to musicians like you Rick. The path music is taking today seems to be en route to becoming AI.

    • @Miam_miam_la_gauffre
      @Miam_miam_la_gauffre 9 місяців тому

      I believe people are going to grow tired of AI creation. After the "wow" effect have gone done, people will realized that what they truly value in art is the fact that it was made by someone like them, that experienced life like they are.
      And those that will still cling to AI stuff well... not my problem, they probably feel miserable inside.

  • @yurkshirelad
    @yurkshirelad 10 місяців тому +7

    My peeve is, what was used to train this model, and how much of that original material is in this generated music and do they have the copyright for the source?

    • @mtae5
      @mtae5 9 місяців тому +1

      I've been trained my whole life on existing music. Is it copyright infringement if I make music now, having been influenced by all the music I have heard?

    • @yurkshirelad
      @yurkshirelad 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mtae5 will you copy chunks of existing music directly into your compositions? Subconsciously, you may accidentally borrow from an existing tune, but that's a stretch I admit. This is the same problem facing software projects that were used to train AI without permission. Chunks of code appeared in AI generated code, without permission and contradicting the license the project(s) were released under. It's a real problem.

    • @hillehai
      @hillehai 9 місяців тому

      @@mtae5 And you're a human being, not a software. This really all boils down to this: Do we want to value and protect human creativity like music, art, writing and so on, or do we want to extinguish it for the sake of "efficiency" and cheap imitations of human creativity? Unfortunately you, like many of those defending AI art, are on the side of "efficiency" without truly understanding the consequences of what you're advocating for. It's sad.

    • @pvanukoff
      @pvanukoff 9 місяців тому

      @@hillehai Face the facts, at the end of the day, whatever is most commercially profitable to the large players (corporations) is what is going to win out. We (individuals) can value and protect human creativity as much as we like, but corporations value profit over all, and, like it or not, the world is run by corporate interests. I'm not defending that - I think it's awful - but it's just reality. Over time, it will be harder and harder for people to make a living off of creative endeavors.

  • @slowfinger2
    @slowfinger2 10 місяців тому +5

    A.I. music sounds like it's just good old "Band In A Box", with a really good sampler. 🤣👍 Actually, since I have an old version, I think it has way more "feel" than the A.I.

  • @DenisDeS-Pb
    @DenisDeS-Pb 9 місяців тому +1

    The Art is The message from one Person to another. Not just an algorythm

  • @CANNIMAGINE
    @CANNIMAGINE 2 місяці тому

    After watching one of your videos on AI music I got on Suno and had it write me a song about music being created by AI. It came up with two song versions called "Gone With the Future" and they are excellent the lyrics it came up with are unreal, and it captured the concept of AI writing songs instead of humans.

  • @augustfeola8347
    @augustfeola8347 10 місяців тому +11

    In the early days of CDs, some companies (Telarc comes to mind) listed the equipment (microphones and monitors) and even the instruments used in the recording.
    Taking a cue from this, maybe the AI software in use should be given non-monitized credit like the other tools used in the production.
    If Recorded on BASF tape. BASF didn’t get any more than the cost of the tape.
    Maybe artists will sign up with certain AI software like they sign with guitar companies.

    • @stevenposey
      @stevenposey 10 місяців тому +1

      That's a really good point. The medium doesn't collect the royalties. I like it.

    • @stevelaferney3579
      @stevelaferney3579 10 місяців тому

      Nope. Just AI created. Nothing else that will ever give AI any legal foothold over anything.

    • @stevelaferney3579
      @stevelaferney3579 10 місяців тому

      Now by manipulating parts Rick you are making the decisions so you are now the creator using sounds.

    • @stevelaferney3579
      @stevelaferney3579 10 місяців тому

      Given the beat that hip-hop uses it doesn’t take that much effort.

    • @stevelaferney3579
      @stevelaferney3579 10 місяців тому

      Yeh, but AI lacks that human Emotion, sentient experience that can never be the equivalent by a computer. That’s what AI is “A computer.”

  • @cozmicpfunk
    @cozmicpfunk 10 місяців тому +17

    The Electro/Dance, Ambient and Hip Hop genres seem to be the easiest to emulate in AI. It makes total sense to me if you start with the computer and music generated in the software, it should be easier to sequence patterns together. I can see if a few years with the development of the Acoustic sampling algorithms that it will catch up and sound better. Remember in the 70's when synths first hit the scene- synths now sound like organic acoustic instruments with the sampling and playback algorithms. It will evolve to a standard when they algorithmically sample/record/reference every single band and composer in the world. That is when we will be having the conversation "can you tell the difference". Now it is like we are in the 70's talking about sampling...

    • @benjaminhawthorne1969
      @benjaminhawthorne1969 10 місяців тому +1

      I can certainly see that happening as you say. Today we are having the conversation, "Can you tell if this is "Pitch Corrected?"
      Tomorrow, we will be asking, "human or Artificial Intelligence Computer?"
      As is, in the 1970's we asked, "Is it live or is it Memorex?" 😂

    • @cwmmegas8319
      @cwmmegas8319 10 місяців тому +2

      Nice analogy

    • @recordednowhere
      @recordednowhere 10 місяців тому +1

      I have fooled real people and musicians with AI music already, and I feel true breakthroughs are just around the corner. This is not gonna take as long as it took for the whole sampling thing to take over (10-15 years?). Also, 'AI' is much cheaper already than the first "samplers" were, which surely factors in.

    • @cozmicpfunk
      @cozmicpfunk 10 місяців тому

      @@recordednowhere I have not used any AI for music, but like any other software, if you know the tricks and features you can do almost anything creative given the limits :)

  • @vyleart4488
    @vyleart4488 9 місяців тому +7

    As a visual artist who has seen the rise of AI images over the last few years, and the jobs replaced in the movie industry happening at the exact same time, I can tell you that it is just a question of time until this music is indistinguishable from human made music and used extensively in that industry.

  • @babakhouman
    @babakhouman 9 місяців тому +1

    Dear Rick, it’s always a pleasure listening to your voice and watching your videos. Did you ever consider offering bass lessons?

  • @Gosurfdammit
    @Gosurfdammit 9 місяців тому +1

    There is going to be a Pixar moment in music and film. Remember when everyone was blown away at Toy Story being a full featured animated movie - the first of its kind? I hate the fact that the same is going to happen with AI in other mediums - the first top 10 with full AI vocals, instruments, mix, master etc, the first series made entirely with AI etc. I feel anxious about it all.

    • @angela_somanythings5670
      @angela_somanythings5670 9 місяців тому

      Did you just see that new Tim Allen interview also? Just curious.. some of the comments were saying what you're saying about how it changed how we viewed not only animation but also creativity, our perception reality and expectations of the near future!

    • @Gosurfdammit
      @Gosurfdammit 9 місяців тому

      I have not but will take a look. Weird times we live in!
      @@angela_somanythings5670

  • @batautomat
    @batautomat 10 місяців тому +21

    There should be a mandatory silent digital watermark in all AI created music, either in the inaudible data area or in metadata so that it is easy for the US copyright office to determine what percentage of the music is AI. Right now you can claim it’s human generated and the office has little resources to police it.

  • @paulgillespie542
    @paulgillespie542 10 місяців тому +10

    Think of a musician like Jeff Beck. Its going to be a long time before AI can create like him. His techniques and feel are a result of live performance involving subtle overt genius.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому

      😂
      It's time to get weird as fuck and trashy humanity, we gotta confuse the machines.
      They'll never mimic my drunken whammy bar technique

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 9 місяців тому

      AI doesn't create. It rearranges.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 9 місяців тому

      @@whatabouttheearth or just turn them off.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому

      @@onesong2001
      Right...just like people thought it would be easy to not give a government listening device cell phone, until the technology increased in ubiquity and surrounded everyone becoming a staple of modernity itself.
      It won't be as easy as turning it off at certain point. This will completely change music and society forever, the question is to what extent is society going to shun computer created media in favor of the real thing produced by humans. You see the trend popping up in the SAG strike as well, where Hollywood studios were trying to make contracts with background actors where they would scan them and than use their likeness in "perpetuity", essentially across all space and time was the wording of the contract. ALL media is threatened to be swamped with barely distinguishable machine productions imitating real humans, machine productions that can learn by themselves because that is how they're programed. And if a code can hop through the internet and stowaway it could hypothetically survive attempts at destruction just as a virus can after it's programmer releases it.
      This isn't a simple turn of events, and this doesn't correlate with human played instruments like synthesizers, because their development wasn't to be autonomous and self learning.
      There are different types of AI, the self learning, deep learning type is what you need to worry about, it can collect more data than a human and humans store almost all documents and media on the internet. This is more than just mere assembly of components.

  • @dunebillydave222
    @dunebillydave222 9 місяців тому +40

    Thing is I don't care whether AI generated music is good or not. I don't just want to hear good music. I want to hear music from the brain and soul of a fellow human being. I want some tiny speck of insight into another human being's heart.

    • @youthofyesterdayrecords
      @youthofyesterdayrecords 9 місяців тому

      Same.

    • @Harmonic_shift
      @Harmonic_shift 9 місяців тому +7

      You won’t be able to tell which is which. And AI will lie to you and create a fake human that makes the art.
      Anything digital is difficult and becoming impossible to trust.

    • @W1LDTH1NG
      @W1LDTH1NG 9 місяців тому

      Amen!

    • @bobrandom5545
      @bobrandom5545 9 місяців тому +5

      I don't believe you. Music touches you or it doesn't. In the age of AI, are you gonna check if every song that you hear is made by humans or AI before you decide if you like the song? Of course you won't. You like the music, or you don't like it.

    • @michaelblankenau6598
      @michaelblankenau6598 9 місяців тому

      Well , if one can’t discern whether it’s AI or human generated what difference does it make ?

  • @dathorndike4908
    @dathorndike4908 9 місяців тому +2

    There needs to be a warning sticker like what is placed on records with explicit lyrics "Warning: Includes AI content"

  • @nickrr5234
    @nickrr5234 9 місяців тому +1

    People used to say that it would be decades before AI mastered the game of Go. However, in 2017 AlphaGo beat the world champion. What's more, it sometimes did this by making moves that no professional Go play would have ever made, so it wasn't just copying human strategies. For better or worse, the capabilities of AI are going to increase dramatically over the next few years.

  • @kellecetraro4807
    @kellecetraro4807 10 місяців тому +3

    Here's one to think about... If artists sell the rights to their catalog what's stopping The new rights holder(s) from training an AI engine to generate new music from that artist, without the artist's permission or having to pay them?
    Thats spooky and It's beginning.

  • @IvorThomas
    @IvorThomas 10 місяців тому +5

    I think Scott Adams’ view that art is all about the connection of the artist and the art is on point. We respond to how awesome some people can become. AI gives you absolutely zero of that.
    I will change my mind if some AI properly trained comes up with completely fresh and awesome new harmonies , melodies, and rhythms. How about a complete new system of microtonal music that pleases the human ear?

    • @IvorThomas
      @IvorThomas 10 місяців тому +1

      @@artistaccount disagree… humans creating awesome things for other humans to perform is still awesome (occasionally). Ai creating a novel song for a human to perform? Let’s see what happens.

    • @IvorThomas
      @IvorThomas 10 місяців тому

      @@artistaccount as a Bacharach lover for example, I gotta say I appreciate songwriters a helluva lot.

  • @RobCavalloMusic
    @RobCavalloMusic 10 місяців тому +56

    After 4 years of listening to AI music, I still remain with my first thought: what makes human music "human" is the "reason why" you write music. The reason why you write is the engine of all the structure, the melodies, and the mixing that comes afterward. AI has no personal reason to write music, so no matter how similar to humans is going to sound, people (especially non-musicians) can feel in their guts it has no reason to compose, and as a result, they eventually find the song dull, at best.

    • @newfreenayshaun6651
      @newfreenayshaun6651 9 місяців тому +3

      Intention. AI cannot produce this.

    • @DoNuT_1985
      @DoNuT_1985 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@newfreenayshaun6651Not yet.

    • @michaelmennies1685
      @michaelmennies1685 9 місяців тому +1

      AI is a tool that requires a human to operate it. That's where the intention comes from. The ability to create incredible nuance and phrasing is coming when enough material is ingested and broken down in a musical way. We have already seen this with MIDI and loops - they get more and more nuanced in terms of feel. And in the end, something can be completely "stiff" and still have a vibe like Kraftwerk.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому +2

      It's the flaws that give it space and flow of structure though a lack of rigidity.
      Straight lines do not exist in nature (technically straight lines are always a myth even when made by computer), real music comes with the "flaws", the free flow that stems from "faulty" human beings.

    • @michaelmennies1685
      @michaelmennies1685 9 місяців тому +2

      @@whatabouttheearth But you can "humanize" computer music to make it play sloppy if you want. Once again, I think this is all about the time that these systems will need to ingest and be able to understand what is going on and what people like. Ultimately all music is programmable in terms of pitch, time, velocity and timbre. A computer would be able to read a classical score and compare any live recording to that score to see how it was actually played down to the millisecond. If the person creating AI music knows what they want they will be able to coax it out of the system.

  • @bill2066
    @bill2066 9 місяців тому +1

    I am concerned that eventually, AI will replace any musical Ambitions of pursuing an instrument (etc..), learning music theory (etc..), practicing daily, and all the rest of it, and opting to become "Keyboard (Computer Keyboard) Musicians." With Someone Like BEATO, I dont have to worry about, because its obvious he has Strong Training in Traditional Music pursuit. But others who do not have that type of background, concern me. Its like Musk who said 6 months ago, "What's the Hurry?"

  • @StephGV2
    @StephGV2 9 місяців тому +1

    That stuff would make some pretty good royalty free background music for UA-cam videos. It's the equivalent to low cost royalty free music for background in video or podcast content. Either the human musicians that make that music now up their game, or their livelihood goes extinct.

  • @evolutionaryintelligencela1841
    @evolutionaryintelligencela1841 10 місяців тому +21

    Polyphia always sounds like it’s an AI generated band with the objective to sound like a ‘90s dial up modem connecting 😀

    • @wietzejohanneskrikke1910
      @wietzejohanneskrikke1910 10 місяців тому +1

      And yet this is the work of humans on the top of their game. Jealous?

    • @kostis6
      @kostis6 10 місяців тому +2

      Agree 100%. I could only use their songs just for exercising. Other than that I can’t find any musicality There

    • @TheirIAre
      @TheirIAre 9 місяців тому

      Yea i never actually seek out their music even though it's technically good.

    • @chanonwisanmongkol2254
      @chanonwisanmongkol2254 9 місяців тому

      They sell a technic not music.

    • @lomarsweed6604
      @lomarsweed6604 9 місяців тому

      @@wietzejohanneskrikke1910 Lighten up, it ain't that serious.

  • @barrieflix
    @barrieflix 9 місяців тому +3

    Don't quite understand : a) if I download SOUNDRAW do I get the same set of tracks Rick has here, with a growing library? b) is it an audio file or MIDI or data file - in essence can you change the sample voices c) if I take one of these pieces, put it into my workstation, chop it up and manipulate it and add to it, and score a big hit - then who owns it?

  • @Nebula37
    @Nebula37 9 місяців тому +3

    I'm also very interested in the methods record companies use to created 'payola' by using AI to boost (or create) "plays" of certain artist's songs on Spotify and UA-cam.

    • @someidiot4570
      @someidiot4570 9 місяців тому

      I'm not sure what you think ai is but it's not used for faking streams. it's almost always click farms in third world countries and bots that load web pages

    • @Nebula37
      @Nebula37 9 місяців тому

      @@someidiot4570 I'm not sure what you think 'faking streams' means, but I didn't mention that. AI could be used to generate, say 100 "Best of 2023" playlists that actually include songs from 2015 - 2021 by a selected group of artists. The songs might then be picked up by a counting algorithm as 'plays' and by having hundreds (or thousands) of playlists the chances that random users might find them during a "Best of _____" playlist search are much higher. AI could also be used to generate random positive comments on these playlists to boost views. "Wow! I really love this playlist!" "This is the best music." etc. Meanwhile the artists from the playlists get thousands more worldwide 'plays' due to this dodgy arrangement ultimately leading to awards for "most plays ever" or "2 billion plays" (or whatever) when the actual number of legitimate plays has been vastly exaggerated.

  • @N8oRMusic
    @N8oRMusic 9 місяців тому +1

    Low quality mp3 sound is BACK, baybee!

  • @fredchatham6680
    @fredchatham6680 9 місяців тому

    Rick, your hoodie is definitely 'DEVO CHIC'. Its Tres Fuego. You like it, that's all that matters.

  • @FrancisMaxino
    @FrancisMaxino 10 місяців тому +9

    You should explore the AI employed in GarageBand and Logic Pro. You can assign a drummer to play along to your recorded or MIDI tracks. You can tweak the drums used and business of them and stuff, it really did a good job with it and kind of sounded like a real drummer and beats using an ever looping its pattern drum machine.

  • @jeremydoody
    @jeremydoody 9 місяців тому +4

    Genre that Rick understands well and cares about: “this is terrible”
    Genre that Rick doesn’t understand or care about as much: “pretty good. That could be a song”
    I think your impression of the quality reflects your level of investment and expertise. AI only excels at convincing people who don’t know what’s up in a given field (at least so far).

  • @georgeherman8826
    @georgeherman8826 5 місяців тому +3

    Rick you should review Suno AI and Udio AI

  • @ScottJMasonMusic
    @ScottJMasonMusic 9 місяців тому +1

    One of the things I do is make production music. That is an industry definitely under threat from AI…

  • @yomomma9815
    @yomomma9815 9 місяців тому

    The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco.

  • @jmd489
    @jmd489 10 місяців тому +13

    Rick definitely needs to check out Suno AI. Their new v2 model is the best music generation out there at the moment. It's hit or miss, but had a few tracks that blew me away.

    • @michaellambert3182
      @michaellambert3182 10 місяців тому +3

      Rick, this is a must-see. I played with it last night it actually sounded pretty good and gave me some great ideas for a song score that I had been working on.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 9 місяців тому +1

      Where does this end?

  • @imagiro1
    @imagiro1 10 місяців тому +9

    Any information on how the AI avoids accidentally violating copyrights? After all it's producing melodies, and finding a new one is quite a challenge.

    • @texasamericanpatriot8535
      @texasamericanpatriot8535 10 місяців тому

      Copywrights are over with AI music. We can't stop it, it's out of the gate.

    • @spiritlevelstudios
      @spiritlevelstudios 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@texasamericanpatriot8535you'll still get flagged for uploading pre-exisiting music to UA-cam.
      But for AI voice cloning is the wild west. You both can and probably should take any and every voice that you like and create art with it.
      Can't get sued if you're broke anyway, so nothing to lose as usual.

    • @TheCruisinCrew
      @TheCruisinCrew 9 місяців тому

      Everything in terms of melody and chord progressions basically has been written already... it's just the question if it's worth suing for... if it is, there will be a suit! ;)

    • @spiritlevelstudios
      @spiritlevelstudios 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TheCruisinCrew melodic progression possibilities are infinite. Otherwise there would be no such thing as new music.
      It's very easy to write brand new sounds, as a human. Very enjoyable also.

    • @TheCruisinCrew
      @TheCruisinCrew 9 місяців тому +1

      @@spiritlevelstudios Sure, almost infinite possibilities, but most sound like crap and the good ones are far fewer, particularly in pop music. You'll see more and more lawsuits where something just sounds "similar" if there's any chance for money to be extracted... ;)