The BEST Monitor for MOST STUDIOS?? - New Focal Trio6

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  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2024

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  • @Jhayokay
    @Jhayokay Рік тому +17

    This is what we have been waiting for. Always a special time when Focal hits the market with new gear!

  • @glennbucc7107
    @glennbucc7107 8 місяців тому +3

    Colt, thank you for the most insightful review of the new Trio 6 ST6 monitors. I had the original Focal Twins and then tried the ATC 25a Mark II's in my studio. They are incredible monitors and the mid separation and smooth tweeter is astonishing. The lows are tight and good, but I would want a sub with them for mastering and any contemporary music. For rock, you could probably get away with not having a sub. I returned them even though I got a killer deal on them. The main reason is the music is so separated out that it lacks the cohesiveness that all headphones, and speakers have. I found them hard to judge how the music would sound on with car speakers or headphones. A 2nd pair of monitors or great headphones like the Focal Clear Mg's would be necessary with the ATC's.
    The Focal Trios provide good separation but at the same time have a cohesive sound to them as well. Also switching from Twins to the Trio's was much easier as they have that familiar Focal character. My mixes on the ATC's were way out there and it would have taken me months to get use to their sound in my room. The bass on the Trios is very solid and they go deep. They improved the bass driver compared to the original Trio 6's which were more of a rounded bass sound. The new Trio 6's have faster transients and lower lows. The tweeter is much improved over the original Twins as well. Not as smooth as the ATC's but they are not fatiguing at all. These monitors look better than the ATC's and weigh less. The 2 way and 1 way are fun to listen to, but I prefer my Yamaha HS 5's as the mids are not pushed forward like the Trios are. If these speakers are out of your price range but you want this type of Focal quality, I strongly recommend checking out the new Focal Twins which have a similar tweeter and improved design that the new Trios have. The Solos are great too, but I prefer the deep bass of the Twins over the Solo's.

  • @kelvynification
    @kelvynification Рік тому +12

    I would love it if they did a loyalty trade in option for owners of the older Trio’s… one can dream I suppose:)

  • @api1608
    @api1608 Рік тому +5

    I was with the Blackbird Academy listening to them just after you left, i was pretty blown away as well! The wideness of the stereo field gave a new perspective of mixes being too hard panned which i havent really heard before in monitors. Would have loved to meet you!

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +2

      I’ll be there again tonight!

    • @CTJonze
      @CTJonze Рік тому

      @@ColtCapperrune what I am confused about is why did you down size your studio? And where is your dangerfox??

  • @stephenjodyfoster8788
    @stephenjodyfoster8788 Рік тому +2

    Really informative, fun video! I think the ability to make the tranformation in to a single, full range monitor, is such a great feature. Thanks again, Colt!

  • @anthonycunningham4598
    @anthonycunningham4598 Рік тому +2

    Thanks! This helped me out tremendously! That 2nd focus mode is a game changer!!

  • @danieltufano2659
    @danieltufano2659 11 місяців тому

    The detail sounds incredible on the “middle” song

  • @LightsandMotion
    @LightsandMotion 10 місяців тому +1

    I´m thinking about buying Focal 6´s. but it sounds to you like you enjoy the previous BE version more compared to the new model?

  • @OTTOAUDIO
    @OTTOAUDIO Рік тому +3

    You have quickly become the best mixing channel on youtube Colt

  • @EvanToutz
    @EvanToutz 6 місяців тому +1

    Happy to see you come back that we have Man

  • @FLAVMEDIA
    @FLAVMEDIA Рік тому +1

    Enjoyed the RIDE:))

  • @palsheldon6520
    @palsheldon6520 Рік тому +1

    Excellent!!!

  • @eriksark4883
    @eriksark4883 Рік тому +2

    Thanks Colt! I would love to hear / see a head-to-head between the new Focal Trio 6's and the new Adam A8H's. Even though there is a $4k price difference between them ... I feel like they sit in a relatively similar place in the market. Keep up the good work my man!

  • @GeorgeAmodei21
    @GeorgeAmodei21 Рік тому

    lol... that a Freaking Crazy Diffusion ROOM. Beautiful STUDIO! Thank you taking us with you :) George ( 16.5' x 12.5' ) I'm in. Love to get these Trio 6

  • @77advanced
    @77advanced Рік тому +4

    That ATCs are beautiful

  • @thegilfactortv
    @thegilfactortv 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for Sharing!

  • @chadfayrobinson7537
    @chadfayrobinson7537 Рік тому +1

    cool thanks for the video. I'm looking at the height of you monitors on the desk behind you and they seem so below your ears maybe your chair is all the wat up?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! It’s just the camera angle. We were sitting at an appropriate height.

  • @justinknollenberg8120
    @justinknollenberg8120 Рік тому +1

    I need a set of these but I’m just a broke artist from Illinois thanks for another great video

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 2 місяці тому +1

    Why would you need to hear down to 20hz when no one has speakers that go that low and that low would normally be filtered - even huge club soundsystems don't produce below 40hz in 99% of cases. The Focal trio 11 is -3 at 30hz, Trio 6 is -3 dB) at 35hz sub 12 is -3 dB at 28 Hz. What are the benefits in an extra half octave that no one really uses? I make house and techno by the way. It's a genuine question not trying to be argumentative. I have Focal CMS65 and Dynaudio BM15a. I'd rather not spend PSI / ATC / PCM money if I don't have to. My room is 17 x 9ft x 8ft Isn't 'too big for the room'' really a myth? Obviously I'd rather the cheaper 6 over the 11s if there's not really any downside. Thanks!

  • @QFXmusic
    @QFXmusic Рік тому +2

    Nice to hear what you had to say on these as i am trying to decide on the New Trio 6 or the Trio 11... I have a 9.1.6 Atmos system based around the new st solo 6 and twin 6 but always planed on moving the twin 6 to rear and putting the trio 11 as the main. But have Questioned using the Such a big Main in the Atmos system :( Any thoughts ?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +3

      So one of the biggest considerations for me between the trio 11 and the trio 6 in an Atmos rig, since you will have a sub anyway, is monitoring distance. The trio 11s really need to be like at least 6 foot away before they start coming together into a cohesive picture as aware the trio 6 start working somewhere in the 4 foot range. Obviously, there’s the price to be concerned with, and physical space requirements. But monitoring distance would be my biggest concern in Atmos. I’m personally going with 3 trio11, and solo six everywhere else for 9.1.4.

    • @QFXmusic
      @QFXmusic Рік тому

      My Room is not small so i think the Trio 11 will be the best bet for me also.. The cost of the new Trio 6 is very close to what i will be paying for Trio 11.. But i couldn't get away with 3 Trio 11 lol @@ColtCapperrune

  • @GlitchComputer
    @GlitchComputer Рік тому

    Can't wait to hear them!!!!

  • @wayneebersole2054
    @wayneebersole2054 11 місяців тому +2

    I’m wondering if anyone can compared the Trio 11s to the Solo 6s with a Sub 6. I’d love to know if it gets close or even better than the Trio 11s.

  • @NRVE8
    @NRVE8 Рік тому

    Damn man, I had a ticket for this day, but didn’t go and decided six flags and the beer Olympics in Atlanta would be more fun haha

  • @NotEvenTanner
    @NotEvenTanner Рік тому +1

    Can someone please recommend a switcher for the Focal Focus Mode
    I’ve bought a few different pedals and haven’t got it to stay on

    • @politicum8113
      @politicum8113 Рік тому

      check or invert polarity (like on sustain pedal)

    • @joshuaestock
      @joshuaestock Рік тому +1

      Boss FS-6 is a great option.

  • @ollenhopkins5480
    @ollenhopkins5480 7 місяців тому +1

    Hey Colt
    Could you do a review of the PMC PMC 6-2 monitors

  • @KNUX_Austin
    @KNUX_Austin Рік тому +1

    Is it good for HIP HOP and EDM music??

  • @GeorgeKTM4String
    @GeorgeKTM4String Рік тому +2

    I see you use 24k Magic by Bruno Mars as a reference as well... I see ya, big guy!!!

  • @SoJesusChristMusic
    @SoJesusChristMusic 6 місяців тому +1

    How much is the pedal to activate the focus modes?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  6 місяців тому +2

      Depends on which one you choose, between 20 and $40

  • @politicum8113
    @politicum8113 Рік тому +2

    the new series is really good.
    they finally defeated their wadded-up, uninformative hi-fi sound and made a clear transient really studio monitor.
    the new series has reached a level with ADAM S, which is the best for its money.

  • @JohnNormanMusic
    @JohnNormanMusic Рік тому

    I’ve followed your stuff for a long time, and I know this is a video about audio and such but can we talk about your hat for a second? I love Martin’s. Went there on a trip from Winnipeg, Canada. Now living in the UK, I miss good BBQ so much!
    Thanks for hearing me out:)

  • @danieltufano2659
    @danieltufano2659 11 місяців тому

    Great video!

  • @kennethdaniels
    @kennethdaniels Рік тому +1

    Would these be too big for my 8’ wide x 15’ long control room?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +1

      I think 15 foot long would do the trick. The important thing in that scenario in my mind is the listening distance to the monitors. You really need to be like 4 1/2 feet or more from these monitors in the listening position in my opinion.

    • @kennethdaniels
      @kennethdaniels Рік тому

      Thanks for the reply. I was a few minutes into the video when I asked that, but you did mention room size at the end. I think they might be too big for my basement studio, but I'm treating my "bonus room" upstairs, which is a similar size/shape to your room (albeit a bit smaller). How far do you recommend them from the back wall? Thanks again!@@ColtCapperrune

  • @mosermichael4404
    @mosermichael4404 Рік тому +1

    What sbout think to the PMC 6.2 pro ..
    The low end is incredible mind blowing! Msssive punch and ultra clean sound big stereo imag.. i loved ❤👊🔥👌💫😱

    • @kromal92
      @kromal92 11 місяців тому

      Have it too, and picked it above Trio 6 Be.

  • @ChrisBevrly
    @ChrisBevrly Рік тому

    Great content. Might be time to upgrade my solo 6

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic Рік тому +2

    $7000 for the Focals? OR £1200 for my 3-way Kali In-5's with a Kali WS-6.2 Subwoofer which also has a foot switch to remove the sub. Would love to see a comparison to see what you actually get for your £5,500! 😎

    • @lilrealondatrack
      @lilrealondatrack Рік тому

      I've had both the Kali In 8 definitely are close to the the Older trio 6be

  • @hankpotts5339
    @hankpotts5339 Рік тому

    Man, what an awesome giveaway. You guys at Sweetwater are amazing. I would love to have this system

  • @AlanLocks
    @AlanLocks 10 днів тому

    Hi Colt, I’m about to buy my set of speakers, my room is small 10x11 but I would like to buy a set that I will use for a long time instead of keep changing speakers. So all that to ask, would you go a pair of Trio 6 or Solos with Sub?

  • @stormp2578
    @stormp2578 Рік тому +1

    What would you say to someone that has just started working on their first few real mixing jobs from paying customers but is constantly thinking “I need the perfect setup, perfect speakers, perfect treated room etc”, obviously everyone has to started somewhere but it’s so frustrating that there are so many improvements needed!

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +4

      I would say acoustic treatment is the single most important thing. Monitors are the second most important thing. And literally everything else comes after that. You can’t mix or fix what you can’t hear.

    • @emptytombprod
      @emptytombprod Рік тому +2

      Agreed on the acoustic treatment. Also, learn the equipment you do have inside and out.

  • @stefan6474
    @stefan6474 8 місяців тому

    first case: Let's say they cost the same, would you chose the Trio ST6 or the Trio 11 BE in a medium sized fully treated room. No decay longer than 300ms down to 30hz.
    seond case: the trio 6ST are new and cost 4.800 bucks, the trio 11s are 5 years old in good condition and cost 4.200. What would you get? A real scenario and I am grateful for your opinion.

  • @Fnicallo
    @Fnicallo Місяць тому

    Would you say they are as good as atc scm25?

  • @muhammadbaki1124
    @muhammadbaki1124 5 днів тому

    Do you need a sub with these? They go pretty low to 35Hz but what's your take on this for EDM production?

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite Рік тому

    It’s a massive difference putting broadband absorbers on your desk and measuring. The comb filtering is massive in comparison, yet I think our ears get used to it over time. Probably the congestion you were experiencing?

  • @nicefish10
    @nicefish10 Рік тому +1

    I had the Focal Twin6 with the matching sub….the forward midrange was just too much. I tried the Trios as well and just could not get used to the midrange. Tooo forward for me. I really wanted to love the Focals because they are so beautiful and have such a great reputation…. The midrange was just too much for me. I ended up with two sets of Genelec monitors…..which visually are meh…….but like you said earlier, I don’t have to think of them….

    • @revelationsoundstudio
      @revelationsoundstudio 9 місяців тому

      All these higher end monitors like ATC, Barefoot and Focal push the mids forward so you can hear all the details in the busy area better. You get to hear reverb tails and front to back on your mixes much better. But the negative thing is the music does not have a cohesive sound. So you need a 2nd pair of monitors like the Yamaha HS5'S to give you the idea how all the tracks blend together.
      But I get what your saying. I returned the ATC SCM 25a's for that very reason. Plus the bass only goes down to 47. The Trios on the other hand go down to 35 hz

    • @nicefish10
      @nicefish10 9 місяців тому

      @@revelationsoundstudio The SCM 25 were on my shortlist for a long time, but I did not pull the trigger on them for that very reason. A monitor that expensive should have that lower end reach that they just don’t. It’s disappointing I think. The Genelec monitors don’t seem to get much love online but At least half of my business is guest Engineer is coming into the studio and not a single one of them has ever complained about them and they keep coming back. Granted, my monitors aren’t the lower and stuff but some of the upper and stuff and I gotta say the mixes transfer a really well, and I can listen to them for a long period of time without getting ear fatigue. In my touring concert sound systems I used to use TAD 4001 and 4002 hf drivers that. We’re also beryllium, (I absolutely love the sound of beryllium!) The high frequency extension is exceptional and it’s clarity is second to none. Because of that, I really wanted the Focals to be my thing. It just didn’t sound anything like the beautiful TAD drivers I was so used to. I really believe that the Focal monitors are the most beautiful looking speakers on the market. And I am really happy that they achieve as much success as they do. I think I’m just spoiled. But that’s OK. I love my current monitors and my results are great. I just wish they look like the Focals!

  • @berke7836
    @berke7836 6 днів тому

    Focal Trio6 or twin6 be?

  • @Mrav79
    @Mrav79 Рік тому +1

    if you have the old 6's is it really enough of a difference to upgrade?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +1

      I discussed that towards the end of the video, so be sure to check that out for my full thoughts. I think it’s only worth an upgrade if you really wanted a more analytical monitor, and we’re dead set on having the one-way focus mode.

  • @dc5001
    @dc5001 Рік тому

    How does the focal monitors compare to the focal passive speakers for stereo/non mixing purposes, just for casual entertainment listening with a sub?.

  • @tommymai3062
    @tommymai3062 Рік тому

    Have the same monitors, once you hear the level clarity on these it’s like losing your hearing virginity. Eventually sold mine and went with the Genelec 8341, they are 1 notch more clear then the trios.

  • @AMGOSUK
    @AMGOSUK Рік тому

    Hi -- when would you choose the Twin 6 over the Trio 6 and do each of these need a Sub (sub12) OR would you go for the Trio 11 BE (larger room) unless in a very small room (14x14 or smaller). Room size -vs- Speaker size AND closeness to front wall.
    Some of us just have to place our monitors ultra close to the front wall - most folk with space can place the spkrs where they want -- but for the rest of us choice is limited - particularly if we do not want to use in-wall spkrs (which can be great in themselves).

  • @inshot_1272
    @inshot_1272 11 місяців тому

    Hello.22 pounds is a small room for the Focal trio6 st?Please help me as an expert in this. Maybe I need something smaller? These are my first monitors, I've been looking for a long time, I've looked at a lot of reviews. I'm deciding to buy a focal trio6 st and then I'm faced with the size of the room.

  • @Frank290578
    @Frank290578 7 місяців тому

    Hi do the trio 6 have more bas then the event opal?

  • @sebastianjmartin
    @sebastianjmartin Рік тому +1

    yo thanks for the nice video! could it be that the midrange reproduction was also affected by the reflections of the console ?

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому

      Yes, there’s also certainly some comb, filtering and reflections, happening off the consul as there are with every monitor on every consul. Good call!

  • @youtubebirdie
    @youtubebirdie Рік тому +1

    I guess you are now waiting for new Trio11s to come out 😊

    • @cd43
      @cd43 Рік тому +1

      Look for the trio11 be’s to get a big price cut like the trio6 be a few months ago

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +1

      They are telling me there are currently zero plans to update the trio 11 as it is still their flagship. Also, I just bought a 3rd Trio 11 for Atmos. I’m staying put.

  • @nahswille5463
    @nahswille5463 Рік тому

    What is the brand name of that switch for the focus mode used in this video?

  • @chthonicislandaudio5379
    @chthonicislandaudio5379 9 місяців тому +1

    Chuck!

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String Рік тому +2

    I sold my old trios and bought some genelec’s….what a revelation. I think I’m a genelec fanboy now.

    • @OskayNejat
      @OskayNejat Рік тому

      Which models ?

    • @Doty6String
      @Doty6String Рік тому

      @@OskayNejat they were the smaller trios. focal sounds muddy and not prescience to me for mixing. fun to listen on though.

    • @OskayNejat
      @OskayNejat Рік тому

      @@Doty6String hello thanks for the answrr but, i was wondering genelecs models. Which series you bought. İ also have trios and krks but i want to buy genelecs too

    • @Doty6String
      @Doty6String Рік тому

      @@OskayNejat I own a pair of 1023c's and have a lot of experience with thte 8351s

    • @Doty6String
      @Doty6String Рік тому

      @@OskayNejat you cant go wrong with a par of Gen's

  • @nahswille5463
    @nahswille5463 Рік тому

    What rom it would feet into as minimal in meters? Is the trio6 st6 then better than the trio6 be? How about the amplification difference between them?

  • @Drumbaseuk
    @Drumbaseuk Рік тому

    Are these a bit compromised in output power? 115dB SPL and 250 RMS. I have the Hedd type 20 mk11 and they are 120db SPL and 900 RMS and in a treated room they are just about loud enough, or am I missing something? Great videos by the way.

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +2

      So the drivers in all of these Focal speakers are ultra efficient, meaning they take less power to reach a particular SPL. These are way loud and I cannot imagine anyone needing more.

  • @natehine8541
    @natehine8541 Рік тому

    went to Nashville last year it was raining hard pick up passed on the interstate 5 miles later he was on the side of the road had wrecked hard, girl was ejected horrible accident.

  • @nahswille5463
    @nahswille5463 Рік тому +1

    Why nobody answer to this coments?

  • @jossuecastaneda8135
    @jossuecastaneda8135 Рік тому +1

    Such a DoPe a** tour 🎉🎉😍

  • @PaulEubanks
    @PaulEubanks Рік тому +1

    Too rich for my blood. Gonna have to stick w/ the evo series for now. 😂

  • @WatisYouth
    @WatisYouth Рік тому

    Aren't these called ST6? Decidedly different from the trio6

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому +1

      Nope. The ST name is reserved for the solos and the twins.

    • @WatisYouth
      @WatisYouth Рік тому

      @@ColtCapperrune interesting! On the box I’ve got it says trio6 ST6
      I guess they dropped the “be” only on the back panel

    • @joshuaestock
      @joshuaestock Рік тому +2

      “ST6” is the family of the new solos, twins, trio and Sub12.

  • @DjR3aper
    @DjR3aper Рік тому +2

    9:26 😂😂😂

  • @ancientalien815
    @ancientalien815 Рік тому

    I always take the back roads no matter what.

  • @MIKEDIAMONDZ
    @MIKEDIAMONDZ Рік тому

    Foxal shoypd semd you a free pair ...

  • @TwangThang57
    @TwangThang57 Рік тому

    For most people with an extra $7k to blow. Maybe more like best for most pro studios. Definitely not for the most home/project studios.

    • @ColtCapperrune
      @ColtCapperrune  Рік тому

      That’s what the “best” part of the title means. What’s the very best monitor You can buy that fits most peoples room, size and workflow.

  • @emptytombprod
    @emptytombprod Рік тому

    Anyone have 8 grand I can borrow? 😅

  • @jessezfromboston
    @jessezfromboston Рік тому

    Bro why do they even advertise this much for 7000$ monitors? Ain’t nobody that’s an everyday engineer/producer have the money to drop on this smh🙄

  • @carlsheperd2471
    @carlsheperd2471 Рік тому

    No Atmos?... Tool

    • @emptytombprod
      @emptytombprod Рік тому

      What? Who said no atmos? You can surely use these in an atmos room.

  • @johnwet6969
    @johnwet6969 10 місяців тому +4

    No answers? No review? After 3 months all informations stopped. No web, no magazine, no YT channel, nobody made the real test or measurement. Nothing. Only few days of traditional marketing hype and stop. Why? What happened?