Pumping water with compressed air.
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2012
- This is a short demonstration of pumping water using compressed air. I have the small pipe pumping air down and the larger pipe brings the water up. I wanted to film a bit longer but my little compressor died. The engine is an old kirby/tecumseh engine i got off a mower and is tired. I will get a bigger compressor and pump the bore for a couple of days to test it's production level so i know what size electric pump to install. It is taking about 85psi to bring the water up from about 250ft but i am not sure what the water level in the bore is, as it drops will be harder to pump. In this demonstration it was producing abour 400 gallons an hour. A very inefficient way to pump but most probably the easiest at this depth.
Just finished making this work on a low producing 1-1/4" x 20' shallow well. Used 1/2" ID water hose and .170" ID clear vinyl for the air line. Getting 1/2 gpm into a tank. No more premature pump failure! No more cavitation and prime loss!
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No, the reason is until i just saw your video have never heard of it! Very impressive. I have power near by so ended up putting electric pump in. I might have to look into this windmill compressor thing a bit more, maybe even make my own version.
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How deep is your well and how much pressure did you need? Its hard to see the pressure gage in the video Wish i made my own before I bought the one I have.
hi rotaryhoes i use a similar setup to pump well water into a storage tank try using less air volume you might me surprised you would also find that using two 3/4 inch pipes would up your water output and lower air consumption even using two 1 inch pipes would up your water output. on one 1 1/2 inch line i found that about 4-5 cfm is best air volume for production of water in one 1 inch water pipe and a 1/2 air delivery pipe running at 2 cfm i get around 8 gallons a minute my well is 98 feet deep so i only need about 18 psi to get the air down to the bottom also my static level is around 12 feet with the draw down and 9 feet with the pump off hope this all helps oh yeah i'm also using the same pipe as you just regular black poly pipe thanks for the vid
Thanks for your comment. You certainly have explored the workings of using air very well. I know a guy that uses 1/2" poly and a small air hose to pump his just from a compressor working off a windmill. He reckons he gets enough to supply his house and garden. I haven't seen it for myself so taking his word for it. I hadn't thought about the different rates for different hose sizes. My biggest problem is the water static levels here are around 100' so need a fair bit of psi just to get things moving. But having read your results i reckon i am going to have to do some more experimenting one day.
thank you for taking the time to reply if you're still using this setup I would suggest looking up theorganicmike if you haven't already he also uses airlift and has a few videos on his youtube channel my setup is similar to his thanks again I hope to get a few videos on here as well and also hope to hear from you again with results or if you want to pick my brain for anything have a great day my friend and good luck
You meaned the larger water pipe the more water output?
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It takes about 60-70 psi to lift the water but i think i could do with a bit more air flow, maybe about 40cfm. Would need less pressure at less depth. This bore is 300ft deep but i had the pipe down about 260ft. I'd still be interested to know the method you used for lifting the water, same as this video or different technique?
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Good way to clean a well out also.
Yes it is, actually that is the main thing I do with this set up, cleaning out the mud from the bottom, not many other ways to do it really.
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hi dearswe are using same air compressor in bore well but some time water is delaying to pushing out so who is expect in this pls give contact to clarify
I'd put a convergent nozzle on the end of that hooked air hose instead of just the cut end. That would convert the air pressure into high velocity, which in turn would allow the air to entrain the water better.
I am not sure it would help much as a convergent nozzle would cause restriction and as it is the mass of the air lifting the water and not flow or pressure related it might actually be counter productive.
dlwatib A restriction at the end would decrease the pressure difference between the start and the end of the hose. This would mean there would be less driving force powering the water up the hose, so you need a nozzle which increases velocity but doesn't drastically restrict flow. Since velocity is increased due to the restriction, you really cant put a nozzle on the end that would deliver any kind of decent velocity or else you run the risk of extremely reduced flow rate of water
We did borewell nearly 300feet nearly 1.5 inch water came but when we insert hose and air pipe for getting water . The hose can't go after 200 feet what shall we do?
It is quite deep to pump with air, maybe electrical submersible pump would be a better option.
um,you know ,if you caped and sealed the top of the well except for the pipe going into the water.you only have to pump air into the top.a little air pumps a lot of water.your idea is also great.no cap or sealing and water is flowing.is it the ventury effect?would proble work if you jusdt through it into a pond also.no mud clogged punp screens, yae.
Well, your idea would work for small amount of time. You could end up pressurizing the well and there would be no incoming water to the well.
i have a 600 feet well can it be done by airlift ? what will be the diameter of the air hose pipe and the water hose pipe? and how much psi of air compressor do i need ?
I would think that would be too deep to efficiently pump with air. You wouldn't need a large pipe, maybe 2inch delivery and 3/4inch air line but the psi you would need would be quite high, probably around 3 or 400 psi and it is not easy to get that sort of pressure from a normal compressor.
Can we pump water from tank of petrol and diesel from under ground tank which is at petrol station with the help of this technique
No, static electricity would cause a fire and you would end up roasted and toasted.
I have a 5hp compressor pump installed for a borewell drilled to 450 feet. Nearby I have an open well. I'm planning to use the same compressor pump for well too. On the air pipe, can we put a T section and valve. When used for well, can it pump water from well too? The well is 10 x 10 feet with 30 feet deep. Water is down for 4 feet. Will it pump out water? When want to use bore, change the valve and air will flow to borewell. Possible?
Yes definitely could do both, may just have to adjust flow rate with vavle.
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our bore well is 700ft so 6.5ft bore diameter
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disculpe tiene idea a que tan profunda puede sacar agua con un compresor de un caballi de fuersa?
You will probably find most farmers know this method and have done for many many years. Back before electricity there was quite a few ways to pump water with different techniques.
I have used this method to pump water from a 300 foot static water level but the deeper you go the more pressure is required and the less efficient it becomes.
Alfredo, la profundidad que puedes sacar es mucha, por cada 10 metros de agua necesitarás sobre un kilo de presion en el aire, y en la manguera que mete el aire procura ponerle un tapón a la salida con un taladro de uno 5 mm, así le costará menos,
Mide desde el fondo hasta el nivel freático y sabras la presión del aire, el caudal es otra cosa, con manguera de 40 tienes bastante con unos 30 litros por minuto.
Y sácalas verticalmente y la descargas en un bidón para que luego circule por caída natural, es más eficiente que como está esta, si necesitas algo me encuentras en rgg207@gmail.com .
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would this method work for a 400 feet deep well using a 1" pipe for water and a 125-150psi air from a 5hp air compressor?
No, you would need closer to 200 psi to lift from that depth. But if you could get the air supply it would work but you would want one and a half inch pipe for the water and then you would be able to suck any mud out the bottom. It is not uncommon to have a few feet of mud in the bottom of a well as it settles after drilling. That is why we never set out pumps on the bottom of wells, usually ten to twenty feet up depending on how dirty it was when drilling. If you set your pump low and it is not in mud over the years it will eventually get mud around it and then can't cool itself and burn out and sometimes become stuck and unable to be removed. It is not uncommon.
How about this, I calculated out my entire well volume from top to bottom = 580 gallons. ok so I will fill up a 1000 gallon swimming pool, stick my 420 feet of 1" inch black poly-pipe connected with air hose shooting upward and then pump my entire well full of water to the TOP! Then pipe is submerged from top to bottom in water and there is zero head lift :) How would that work out? If well gets low on water from top I pump in more water. Maybe this is the solution everyone is looking for?
Actually it would work in reverse as the air pressure would need to be enough to displace all the weight of the water in the delivery pipe which would be a hell of a lot. However if you have a submersible in the bottom of the hole then your theory would work well. Also two other problems, 400' of pipe would create it's own head lift that needs to be added. The second thing is, the theory goes, however much water the well is capable of producing it is also meant to be able to absorb. So if it can produce 2000 gallons an hour then if you pump 2000 gallons an hour into it you would not fill it but 3000 gallons an hour would fill it by 1000 gallons an hour. So the theory goes....
it does about 5 gallons a min then is bone dry in 25 minutes, so not even 300 an hour, quite sad. what do you mean if I have a submersible? also what if I used a 100 to 200gpm pump to pump water to the bottom, would that lift and wash the sand particles out through the top? thank you for the awesome knowledge.
That is not a lot of water but around here where I am a lot of people would kill for that. Others drill 60' and get 2000 gallons an hour! How are you pumping now. A submersible is just an electric pump at the bottom of the well. Pumping water in won't lift the mud. You could run a bypass on your submersible, that is a small quarter inch tube shooting down under the pump and rest of the water up and out of well. This way the small jet of water will stir the mud and you could then lower the pump about a foot an hour and slowly suck it out that way. The best way is to get a large compressor and a 400' hose and blow the mud out as it will lift with the water but you also have to lower the hose slowly. It is a messy job. If only fine sand and clay a bypass would be ok, if rocks you will need to blow it out or have the driller come back and do it for you which they should do free of charge.
Can I use an air compressor without tank?
yes you can, it may put a lot of pressure on you pipe on start up but once running would be fine.
I am using a v twin compressor due to water level drop, had no problem for 12 years until recently, my compressors efficiency has gone down but after servicing hope it works like before
Current is used for that compressor or not
Not, petrol.
i have a deep well pump but it does not eject water from 50 feet bore. what is the solution?
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I would like to try this type of pump on a well that is 900' deep. Would these work?
Yes this would work but depending on where your static water level is it may take many psi of pressure to get it started. That is a bloody deep well! Also when you first start the air the entire delivery pipe will want to lift, you will have to make sure it is tied down very securely as i doubt you'd hold it by hand. once the water reaches the top of the delivery pipe it stops trying to lift and just pumps gently. When the water I initially comes out the delivery it can come with a lot of force and at that depth it could be epic. but once the initial delivery has started it calms down.
I like your description of the initial production of water being "epic" . With that in mind I can only imagine something like an oil well gushing forth ! Indeed it would be... EPIC lol
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Have you tried using a windmill air compressor pump instead of electric? No electricity or gas is needed?
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Hello Sr, could you please tell me if you used some kind of valve, or just the air pipe inside the large tube. And hopw many meters has you borewell. I'm asking becouse i have a 20 meters 3 inches borewell, and i need to make 10 more meters deep, when i looked your video came a idea to use something as you used. Thank you very mutch to share your experience. Greetings from Italy.
No valve, just small air pipe inside water pipe, works on air bubbles wanting to rise up water pipe and under pressure makes a sort of piston pushing up carrying water and dirt with it.
@@rotaryhoes First, i would like to say thank you so mutch for your kindly answer. i will try the way you telling. Another idea i have is; mount a compressed air dressel on the end of the tube with som kind of bit to drill the mud, i was thinking usr 2 small air pipe, one for the drill and the other to lift the water. Best regards have a nice day.
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I tried this but the compressor was so hot and the water out not much.
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how deep is ur borewell?
how many ft hav u lowered the pipe?
The bore is 300ft and I had the pipe down about 280ft from memory. But the water level was around the 130ft level from memory. I wouldn't know how far the water level was dropping once we started pumping.
my borewell is 1555 ft so i am in confusion to decide compressor or to buy submersible u hav any idea? or suggestions
I would definitely go with a submersible pump at that depth, compressed air pumping is not efficient especially at depth. That is a very very deep well!
normallyit works upto 300feet depth...
How can we pump water from these types of tank
If only water and no fuel residue can use this system. If any fuel could be very dangerous. Not sure how best if fuel in the water.
@@rotaryhoes What about sand and mud? is possible to lift ? Thank you.
Can work 2hp air compressor with 1.5hp motor
Yeah just slower
Can we use the well casing for the eductor pipe?
You can but you need to have a large air supply, i would guess around 60 to 100cfm.
Thank you!
Which is better compressor or submersible for borewell.
Definitely submersible, way more efficient.
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Way easier than a bore pump eh !
Probably less efficient though.
I had thought of putting air in the top but being 300ft deep and having slots in the casing on the way down some may be above the water line and would lose the air out into the surrounding ground. Worth a try one day though, all for good fun!
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Why don't we use compressed air to rotate the pump?
It would be very inefficient so basically take a lot of air production to get not much water. There are pumps designed to operate on air. Google airwell pumps. Simple design.
Thank you! I have another question. Can I use an air blower to replace air compressor?
If you can get the psi out of it which I doubt as it needs a fair bit of pressure to displace the water.
how i can calculate psi for my well
pretty much 0.433 psi is required for every foot you need to lift the water to the top of the well. So 100ft would take 43psi just to lift the water, to flow faster would be better with 60psi but then you need the cfm to keep up with it.
you seem very knowledgeable, so I have a problem. Could really use your expertise, got a 420 feet deep well, static level st 370'. It is supposed to be 6 inch casing all the way down to 400 feet then 5 inch liner from 395 to 420 and a stainless steel screen from 415 to 420. However, when we checked down there with a cam, it turns out they lied and only put 6 inch casing to 370 feet and a 5 inch steel case from 368 to 420 (I thought liner's are supposed to be PVC with slits?) and cam stops at 414 so we got 6 feet of sand, gray gravel and brown clay on the bottom a foot above the screen. So for my questions, can we sue these guys for cheating us on what they drilled? and can I clean that crap out so I can see if there is even a screen or something? should I use this venturi compressor method or is there a better way? please help as winter is coming soon and it's not looking good.
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Hi I copied you idea and it works great. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I live in Ecuador South America I have a 300ft well I now need to suck the sand out of it. i lowered the hose all the way down and it pumps water just like normal and sand only a couple of burst and no more. can you give me tips on how to make it pump sand? I have a 2 inch poly hose and a half inch poly air line. PLEASE HELP ME thank you PARDON MY SPANISH
It is hard to suck sand like this but can be done. I have cleaned 4 meters of sound out the bottom of my bore once. What you need to do is lower it 1cm at a time and then raise it so it just takes a small bit of sand each time and then let it flush, after a while you get the hang of how much you can get away with at a time. If it takes too much sand in one go it seems to just block the bottom of the pipe really easy. If you put a valve on top of the larger delivery pipe if it blocks up you can turn the valve off and let the air pressure build up until it forces its way out of the bottom of the pipe and unblocking it. Doesn't always work but most time it will and then you can open the vale and start pumping again.
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@@rotaryhoes I have the same problem. I dig a 20 meter borewell , but the water is very dark and bed smell, they say if i di aniother 10 meters will be find a good and clear water. But i have 10 meter of black mud like argil, do you think this procedure will be able to lift the sand and mud?. Thank you.
@@njm663 you could try, mud can be easy to move if soft but if it is hard like clay it won't. You could try making a hand drill you turn back and forward with steel pipe and have a suction inside the steel pipe. Either way it would be very slow going.
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Dear sir,
I have 400feet deep bore well and I have only 100feet water present inside borewell , 300feet is empty i.e., without water . If use 1/2inch riser pipe and 1/2inch air hose, will I get water at ground or else 1inch riser pipe and 1/2inch air hose or (1-1/4 inch riser pipe and 1/2 inch air hose).. Also suggest me the air compressor of a particular power rating which I have to purchase afterwards.
If not kindly suggest some suitable solution.
Looking forward to your reply.
At that depth i would use 1¼ inch riser and ½inch air hose. You will need a lot of air pressure to lift the water from so deep and wouldn't be efficient. A better way would be a submersible pump by electricity or submersible pump with solar panels.
@@rotaryhoes thanks for the reply sir ... can you please tell me how much pressure and CFM will be required and how many gallons per minute I will get ... and if I insert airhose inside the riser pipe will it work ... Kindly advise 🙂
@@munazirhazar9588 I'm not entirely sure but i would guess you would need around 120psi and around 10cfm, this should get you around 200 gallons an hour.
@@munazirhazar9588 i wouldn't run air hose inside riser as it wouldnt stay secure.
@@rotaryhoes thanks sir for the information 🙂
The Air just pushing the water up.
I think a check valve or two would help on the way up, no?
I wouldn't think so, the flow never stops and all a check valve would do is cause restriction.
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With out air will comes to water in boar well
No you need compressed air for the pressure.
I like that. Where did you get the 1 1/2 inch hose from. What type is it?
It's just low pressure irrigation type polythene. Should be able to get it at any irrigation supplier. Quite cheap, high pressure hose is in metric sizes and very expensive but i have found this green line stuff takes a fair bit of pressure, in fact i have never blown a hole in it.
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Thank you so much for replying. I have searched for hours online and all I get is junk; drip irrigation stuff. Could you email me where you bought yours please? Sorry to bother you and thanks for your help.
Juan Alberto This is the stuff i bought, not sure what other company's call it. www.vinidex.com.au/products/pe-pipe-systems/pe-rural-pipe/
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Thank so much for your help. I wish there where a way to send you a private note instead of posting it here. Thanks.
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Hi, I realized, kind of late, that you live in Australia. It's amazing is it that I can't get a simple 1-1/4 inch poly flex hose in the US.
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I tried this fake before, even though he couldn't push the water out of the hose 1/2 the hose I used
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About 70-90 psi.
@@rotaryhoesthanks for voluble vedio can you please mention the depth for it work.
@@nikhilzadokar7001 90 meters.
Yeah heaps less efficient. Getting 500 gallons an hour like this using 2.5hp. With 2.5hp electric submersible pump would be getting close to 2000 gallons an hour. Just don't want to put the wrong size pump down as pulling up to replace from this depth is a real bugger of a job.
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don't need a air compressor you need a small air pump Google air pump many there about $50 US
+Larry Fries I think for a shallow hole an air pump might be ok but this hole the water is over 100ft down so it is taking 60psi just to displace the water and an air pump wouldn't be able to get to those sorts of pressures.
Hii if we wanna get this compreesor where should we buy it or will u send it i have a doubt about that if u have purhased can i get the phone number
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I built it from spare parts of broken machines i found. But really you could buy similar most machinery dealers.
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