EDIT: I said 260Hz when I meant 60Hz on the intelligage, and this generator only runs 5 hours on a 20lb tank of propane instead of the 14.5 that I stated.
Thanks for the tip on it won't pull start with gas. I put gas in it for the first time. The battery was dead and I couldn't figure out why it won't start. It started right up with propane.
Bill I want to give you a heads-up on a youtube video that was posted about running only on propane (which is what I do)... Person said to check carb. occasionally to see if there is water in the bowl...He only ran on propane, and realized that gen. was starting to run a little poorly....He found out that there was water condensing in carb. bowl from the cold propane that was going through it...Just a heads-up you might want to pass along to your subscribers....I was glad I found that video, because I will be more vigilant in the future... Edit: Name of video is: I broke my champion generator by never adding this fluid....Posted by: We Can Explore It It sure gave me something to think about
You are exactly right. You should run a quart of gasoline once a month to dry out carburetor. I run my dry then use full choke and start again to get all the gasoline run out. The moisture will trash your machine.
Mine will not start on gasoline, only LPG. Any thoughts? New unit in June, filled gasoline with STABILZE, and only used today 10/28/2020. Only start/ run LPG. Will attempt to start on gasoline with Starter Fluid yet will not stay running. We are on three days of ice destroying our property here in Oklahoma City and propane is very expensive I’m only getting 4 1/2 hours per bottle at $20 per bottle. Would much rather run on gasoline thank you Bill
It sounds like your gas went bad If it started in gas mode then stalled. If it started(turned over) at all it is your gas. If your gas is bad.you will have to drain your gas tank and carburetor then fill it with new gas. If it didn't start at all in gas mode. I am sure it is your Battery. Check your battery with a voltmeter. It will not start in gasoline mode with a low battery. Try jump-starting your generator with your car battery. I have replaced 2 batteries in the last 3 years. If you have to get a new battery put a trickle charger on it when you put your generator back in storage. Let me know if this helped.
If it will run on propane I am sure it is your battery. You need either charge your battery or replace it if won't hold a charge or try to jump-start it. Let me know what happens.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 how do you charge the battery? I think I have the same problem it works with pull but only has some clicks with the battery that's only 6 months old. If the battery is the problem where can I get one?
@@NotTooExtreme I keep a trickle charger on mine when It's not running at all times. it is over a year old not and I just put a meter on it and it has 13.5 volts still. You can jump-start your generator with your car battery. Here is my email address billteachesyou@gmail.com Email me your phone number and I will call you.
Bill, at 2:45 when you point out the itella-gauge, mine won't light up? Also, I am very confused about the propane v.s. gasoline settings. I thought the propane setting would be seen with the gas setting covered......but you show the yellow cover covering the propane setting, with the gas setting vertically set?? Plus, I can find nowhere in the Champion manual that shows the propane setting to be turned on, in the horizontal setting v.s. the vertical setting. Which setting is it actually turned on? We ran this model last winter during an event where the power was off for 3-4 days, but I guess I've totally forgotten how to re-start it......(guess it's my old age, LOL). Now when testing it for this year's hurricane season, IT WON"T START??????
You completely bypass the fuel selector valve. You have to turn off the propane or natural gas at the source. The only setting you have is for gasoline.
When you convert your generator to tri-fuel by adding add a new regulator you completely bypass the fuel selector valve on the propane and natural gas sides. You have to turn off the generator at the source, propane at the bottle, and natural gas at the gasline.
Hi Bill, So I have run my generator twice on gasoline (now it won't start). I had turned the battery switch off, but left the ignition switch on (by accident), would that have been the reason why it won't start now? When I went to try to electric start it, then engine would not turn, it just made an electric sound like (errrrrrrrr). So I tried to start it with the pull cord, still not starting. I pulled the cord once in the choke position, then put it the run position, and nothing. Do you think its the battery? A spark plug? I will try to start it with the propane and see what happens. Unfortunately it has gasoline in it while in being stored. I try to start it up every month or so to keep things running, but now it won't start. Thank you for any help
If the intelligauge isn’t working could that cause the generator not to start. Mine isn’t working and won’t start I’m going to try charging the battery. I have already cleared the old gas from the carburetor and I’m headed to get a new spark plug to make sure that isn’t the issue.
It could, but I would call Champion at 1-877-338-0999 they can help you troubleshoot your generator. Their really good. if you find out let me know what was wrong.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 it ended up being bad fuel. I was only sitting maybe two months without running so that didn’t strike me as probable issue. After changing the gauge I started going through the fuel system because I initially changed the spark plug when it wouldn’t fire.
Only have run propane through my 3400 dual fuel inverter and used it only for one day about 5 years ago. Just pulled it out and it will not run. I noticed battery was dead so used jumper cables and battery lit up. Hooked up propane but it would not turn over on electric start. Oil light comes on when I am pressing electric start and it tries to start but won't turn over despite choke being on. Any suggestions?
Did you try to pull start your inverter? I also have an inverter the dual-fuel 3500 watt which is identical to yours just higher stated watts. It sounds like your oil is low or your low oil sensor is bad. Try to unhook your wiring to the oil senor and then try to start it but check the oil first. I start my inverter and the low oil light did not come on. I also pulled started the inverter with the battery switch turned off and my inverter did start and the low oil light did not come on so it does sound like the oil sensor is bad or the wiring is loose. I hope this helps. Please let me know what happens next
Choke? You barely used any choke? Was it warm 55f or above? Are you using it on middle in warm? Can you use half middle to run choke? Could a no start be b elow the low oil line/sensor? Add oil or tip the gen? Low battery or week battery? What about a propane line filter? on 20/30 lb tanks, Can you show video on the choke operation?
Yes it was very warm outside it was in the high 80s near 90s and I live at sea level and I had the choke at 1/2. What I will do to answer most of your questions is to make a video zooming in on the choke when starting the generator. It has been in the high 90s here in San Diego CA so I will try to get it done soon. Also, I think your oil sensor may be bad or stuck open. Champion has a how-to video on( How-to Disconnect your low oil sensor) which is very easy to do. I don't have a propane line filter that I know of and not sure what you mean. ua-cam.com/video/89id49yJB1M/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/pvRNs6RPSTM/v-deo.html
I had my hand on the choke which is in the back left side over the air filter. My generator takes very little choke or none at all. I have to turn it off as soon as the generator starts or it may stall or not start. Sometimes I may not use the choke at and it will start. I am operating my generator at sea level. I hope this answered your question
Bill, my battery is dead. I'm not getting spark when I pull the cord. Is it because the battery is dead that there is no spark? Is that related to the energizing of the solenoid or some other issue, like the ignition coil?
You should have a spark from your spark plug when pull starting your generator. Your ignition module ( ignition coil ) may be bad. Your spark has nothing to do with your solenoid. Remember you can not pull stark your Champion dual fuel generator in gasoline mode without a charged battery.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Thanks for your reply. The generator had been stored in a shed for several years but has never been used. I don't get any spark at all when pulling the cord. Could anything else be causing the no spark issue?
Bill, I have the exact same generator as you. I have never used gas in mine either. Today I went to crank it up to ensure it will start when the weather turns. I wanted to use the electric start but when I pressed it did was click. My battery is fully charged as I checked it before attempting to start it. Any thoughts on what I need to do to use the electric start?
Did you try to pull start your inverter? I also have an inverter the dual-fuel 3500 watt which is identical to yours just higher stated watts. It sounds like your oil is low or your low oil sensor is bad. Try to unhook your wiring to the oil senor and then try to start it but check the oil first. I start my inverter and the low oil light did not come on. I also pulled started the inverter with the battery switch turned off and my inverter did start and the low oil light did not come on so it does sound like the oil sensor is bad or the wiring is loose. I hope this helps. Please let me know what happens next.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Thanks Bill, actually what it turned out to be was the battery. It wouldn't hold the charge when a load to applied to it. I changed the battery and low and behold the electric ignition started right up.
@@christineconrad2175 If you are going to store your generator I would put a trickle charger on your battery. I have done this and my battery has lasted a lot longer and your battery will have a full charge on it when you need it.
Hello there! I just got a new battery for my power generator (same brand and model like yours) but it didn’t start,could you please give me a reason why it did not started since the battery is just new? Thank you in advance I will really appreciate your help P.d. When I push the start button I can hear a little click but that’s it 😞
Did you check the voltage of your new battery it could be low from sitting on the shelf? You may have to charge it. Any time I have heard a clicking noise coming from a starter it was from a low battery. Also, make sure there are no loose wires going to the starter. Let me know if this helps.
Hi there. I have a 3500w Dual Fuel Inverter. I rarely use it because I just retired and was renovating my Class C motorhome thru the Covid crap. Already put another carb and it started. Kept the old one and cleaned it. I did put stabilizer in the gas and I should know cause I have a motorcycle also...anyhow I run it with propane and want to stay that way. Don't want to deal with carbs. It even runs my 13500 btu AC in Eco no problem. But yesterday I went to started and the exhaust had a funny noise. Louder and sputtery. Left it running a bit bit it didn't sound right. Checked the spark plug and it was ok. Its running rough. It only has 14hrs used. Its 2 years old. Battery is strong. I shut it off and it wouldn't start after. $1200 including shipping. I love it but any ideas? Thanks
I put seafoam in to stabilize gas, and I start it every other month and put a load on her. same gas for a year now, NO problems.When done, I remove loads and either shut off and drain carb or shut off gas an run till theres no gas in carb.
Is there a question? I would drain the gas tank or run it dry if your gasoline is over a year old. If your generator is a dual-fuel I would switch to propane for storage that way you would still have fuel if you need your generator. You can buy fresh gasoline as needed if you want to run your generator on gasoline which is a lot cheaper than propane. I only run my generator on propane. I don't want to deal with the problems that go with gasoline spoiling and ethanol.
Your 10 minute video is "Why it won't start" but you only spent 38 seconds talking about that. My gasoline part won't start, or even sounds close to starting. I tried propane for the first time and it started right up. Battery seems fine since electric starts turns over quickly and I've had a charger on it. How to I "energize the solenoid"?
If the battery is low it may still start in propane mode. You can jump-start your generator just like jumping-starting your car. If it won't start after having a good battery for sure I think the solenoid is bad in the carburetor and it is stuck propane mode.
Hey Steve, did you ever get this issue figured out? I’m having a very similar issue. It runs on propane just fine, but won’t fire with the electric start. Battery is good and I can eventually get it going by pull starting on gas. Any ideas Bill?
Hi Bill, Thank you for the video. I have a champion dual fuel that won't start. It was purchased last year, run only on gas and serviced before it was stored for the winter at the cottage...some fuel remained in the tank at the time of storage with stabilizer added and the cylinder slightly lubricated... I have yet to try the propane, but the gas option certainly isn't working. One thing you mentioned in the video has me thinking its potentially the culprit. Can you confirm that if the battery is dead or very low the gas option won't work even if pull started??? The battery light does turn on but the mechanic mentioned that the battery was in poor shape... If thats the case, based on your video it seems like I can pull start the unit with a poor battery while using propane. Is that correct? Last question and this one is a bit stupid... if I have tried the gas without success do I have to do anything prior to trying the propane option? Or is the combustion system in the unit separate for each fuel type. I was worried about fuel types mixing as I can only find 1 spark plug on the system. Then again, propane may have its own system all together. Thank you and id be happy to send my email if that helped you send a response. Joel
Yes, you can pull start your generator in the Propane mode without a battery. The generator carburetor is set to propane mode when there is not enough voltage left to switch it over to gas mode. As long as the spark plug is good you should be able to pull start your generator in propane mode. Don't forget about the choke. Also, the propane and gas systems are the same systems. The only thing different is the selected Fuel, they share the same carburetor. When you use propane it should be fine unless the gas gunked up the carburetor. I think it will start in propane mode. Please let me know if this helped.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Hey bill, i'll be trying what you mentioned on the 16th and will update you on the progress, but in the meantime, my email is joelkoepfler@gmail.com Cheers
Yes, you can pull start it in propane mode with a weak battery or a dead battery. All you have to do to start it in propane mode is to select propane and hook it up to the tank then pull start it. You may have to use the choke. It doesn't matter if you have gas in the tank. The system is separated by a solenoid in the carburetor.
Great video did you buy it with the discount because you were in the military or you are in the military just asking so I can ask my brother to get one for me
Once a year the generators go on sale at the Navy exchange. They are discounted about $100.00 Dollars. I bought my Champion Dual Fuel model # 100297 10,000 peak watt for $699.00. They normally sell for $799.00 at the Navy Exchange which is still a lot cheaper than the other retailers. They should go on sale soon, so look for them. Good luck
I use Ethanol free gasoline and get a lot longer run time per gallon in my Champion generator. “Generally, the more ethanol in gasoline the lower your fuel efficiency will be,". "Go up to E85, for example, there's generally 20 percent less energy in E85 than 100% gasoline, so you generally get 20% lower fuel efficiency,"…. E15 or higher is illegal to use in boats or other gasoline-powered equipment in the United States, because due to the water absorbing properties of ethanol, it can damage the components.
Don't know what happened. Spark plug good, plenty of good gas (generator only 10 hours old total run time, all gasoline). After trying to start over and over finally a HUGH backfire (scared the hell out of me) and started right up. Easily starts right up every time since.
I spray a bit of carb cleaner onto air filter to see if it will start, that way, if it does than it is an issue of the carb. If it does not start , it could be a bad magneto or ignition coil or plug. U can't really expect the battery to stay good and up for a few yrs at a time. u ought to put it on a battery tender or trickle charger for a few days every month. and start it every couple of months AND put a LOAD on it. let gen sit too long u lose the residual magnetism that the gen needs to build up power.
Mine starts every time I get it out. But I run a load on it every other month. Thats what the book said. And never stor it with fuel if you want it to last for yrs
I do the same. I have never had gasoline in my generators. I use propane on my Inverter Generator model # 100264 and Natural gas and propane on my big generator model # 100297 which I converted Tri-fuel. I talk about the conversion in my video on adjusting a converted Tri-fuel Generator. Bill
Could you give me more information? Try disconnecting your low oil pressure sensor and see if it will run after that but make sure your engine oil is not low. Look in the parts listing in your owner's manual to find the location of the low oil sensor. Let me know how it works out.
EDIT: I said 260Hz when I meant 60Hz on the intelligage, and this generator only runs 5 hours on a 20lb tank of propane instead of the 14.5 that I stated.
Thanks for the tip on it won't pull start with gas. I put gas in it for the first time. The battery was dead and I couldn't figure out why it won't start. It started right up with propane.
Bill I want to give you a heads-up on a youtube video that was posted about running only on propane (which is what I do)... Person said to check carb. occasionally to see if there is water in the bowl...He only ran on propane, and realized that gen. was starting to run a little poorly....He found out that there was water condensing in carb. bowl from the cold propane that was going through it...Just a heads-up you might want to pass along to your subscribers....I was glad I found that video, because I will be more vigilant in the future...
Edit: Name of video is: I broke my champion generator by never adding this fluid....Posted by: We Can Explore It It sure gave me something to think about
Thank you I will.
Good to know
You are exactly right. You should run a quart of gasoline once a month to dry out carburetor. I run my dry then use full choke and start again to get all the gasoline run out. The moisture will trash your machine.
Mine will not start on gasoline, only LPG. Any thoughts? New unit in June, filled gasoline with STABILZE, and only used today 10/28/2020. Only start/ run LPG. Will attempt to start on gasoline with Starter Fluid yet will not stay running. We are on three days of ice destroying our property here in Oklahoma City and propane is very expensive I’m only getting 4 1/2 hours per bottle at $20 per bottle. Would much rather run on gasoline thank you Bill
It sounds like your gas went bad If it started in gas mode then stalled. If it started(turned over) at all it is your gas. If your gas is bad.you will have to drain your gas tank and carburetor then fill it with new gas. If it didn't start at all in gas mode. I am sure it is your Battery. Check your battery with a voltmeter. It will not start in gasoline mode with a low battery. Try jump-starting your generator with your car battery. I have replaced 2 batteries in the last 3 years. If you have to get a new battery put a trickle charger on it when you put your generator back in storage. Let me know if this helped.
If it will run on propane I am sure it is your battery. You need either charge your battery or replace it if won't hold a charge or try to jump-start it. Let me know what happens.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 how do you charge the battery? I think I have the same problem it works with pull but only has some clicks with the battery that's only 6 months old. If the battery is the problem where can I get one?
@@NotTooExtreme I keep a trickle charger on mine when It's not running at all times. it is over a year old not and I just put a meter on it and it has 13.5 volts still. You can jump-start your generator with your car battery. Here is my email address billteachesyou@gmail.com Email me your phone number and I will call you.
Here is my email address billteachesyou@gmail.com Email me with your phone number and I will call you.
Does it matter much if the inteligent gauge is broken?
Bill, at 2:45 when you point out the itella-gauge, mine won't light up? Also, I am very confused about the propane v.s. gasoline settings. I thought the propane setting would be seen with the gas setting covered......but you show the yellow cover covering the propane setting, with the gas setting vertically set?? Plus, I can find nowhere in the Champion manual that shows the propane setting to be turned on, in the horizontal setting v.s. the vertical setting. Which setting is it actually turned on? We ran this model last winter during an event where the power was off for 3-4 days, but I guess I've totally forgotten how to re-start it......(guess it's my old age, LOL). Now when testing it for this year's hurricane season, IT WON"T START??????
You completely bypass the fuel selector valve. You have to turn off the propane or natural gas at the source. The only setting you have is for gasoline.
When you convert your generator to tri-fuel by adding add a new regulator you completely bypass the fuel selector valve on the propane and natural gas sides. You have to turn off the generator at the source, propane at the bottle, and natural gas at the gasline.
Hi Bill,
So I have run my generator twice on gasoline (now it won't start). I had turned the battery switch off, but left the ignition switch on (by accident), would that have been the reason why it won't start now?
When I went to try to electric start it, then engine would not turn, it just made an electric sound like (errrrrrrrr). So I tried to start it with the pull cord, still not starting.
I pulled the cord once in the choke position, then put it the run position, and nothing.
Do you think its the battery? A spark plug?
I will try to start it with the propane and see what happens.
Unfortunately it has gasoline in it while in being stored.
I try to start it up every month or so to keep things running, but now it won't start.
Thank you for any help
If the intelligauge isn’t working could that cause the generator not to start. Mine isn’t working and won’t start I’m going to try charging the battery. I have already cleared the old gas from the carburetor and I’m headed to get a new spark plug to make sure that isn’t the issue.
It could, but I would call Champion at 1-877-338-0999 they can help you troubleshoot your generator. Their really good. if you find out let me know what was wrong.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 it ended up being bad fuel. I was only sitting maybe two months without running so that didn’t strike me as probable issue. After changing the gauge I started going through the fuel system because I initially changed the spark plug when it wouldn’t fire.
Make sure you add STA-BIL to your gasoline. Your fuel can last up to 1 year
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 I normally do but I obviously didn’t that time🤣
I’m pretty much in the same boat. Your previous comment says you changed the gauge? Is that Correct?
Push button start all of a sudden stop working. Any ideas?
Only have run propane through my 3400 dual fuel inverter and used it only for one day about 5 years ago. Just pulled it out and it will not run. I noticed battery was dead so used jumper cables and battery lit up. Hooked up propane but it would not turn over on electric start. Oil light comes on when I am pressing electric start and it tries to start but won't turn over despite choke being on. Any suggestions?
Did you try to pull start your inverter? I also have an inverter the dual-fuel 3500 watt which is identical to yours just higher stated watts. It sounds like your oil is low or your low oil sensor is bad. Try to unhook your wiring to the oil senor and then try to start it but check the oil first. I start my inverter and the low oil light did not come on. I also pulled started the inverter with the battery switch turned off and my inverter did start and the low oil light did not come on so it does sound like the oil sensor is bad or the wiring is loose. I hope this helps. Please let me know what happens next
Choke? You barely used any choke? Was it warm 55f or above? Are you using it on middle in warm? Can you use half middle to run choke? Could a no start be b elow the low oil line/sensor? Add oil or tip the gen? Low battery or week battery? What about a propane line filter? on 20/30 lb tanks, Can you show video on the choke operation?
Yes it was very warm outside it was in the high 80s near 90s and I live at sea level and I had the choke at 1/2. What I will do to answer most of your questions is to make a video zooming in on the choke when starting the generator. It has been in the high 90s here in San Diego CA so I will try to get it done soon. Also, I think your oil sensor may be bad or stuck open. Champion has a how-to video on( How-to Disconnect your low oil sensor) which is very easy to do. I don't have a propane line filter that I know of and not sure what you mean. ua-cam.com/video/89id49yJB1M/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/pvRNs6RPSTM/v-deo.html
Here is the video I made to answer your questions.
ua-cam.com/video/eodcYB288jE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BillTeachesYouStuff
It start on propane but dies after 10 seconds. Tried multiple propane bottles and it runs fine on gasoline. Hose or regulator problem ?
Unplug the oil sensors and see if that helps. Are you using the choke? Let me know what happens.
What button were you touching behind the generator while you pressed the start button?
I had my hand on the choke which is in the back left side over the air filter. My generator takes very little choke or none at all. I have to turn it off as soon as the generator starts or it may stall or not start. Sometimes I may not use the choke at and it will start. I am operating my generator at sea level. I hope this answered your question
I want to know why mine didn't start with propane but will on gas.
thank you for taking the time to share great&valuable information;pjp
Thank you. You made my day.
Bill, my battery is dead. I'm not getting spark when I pull the cord. Is it because the battery is dead that there is no spark? Is that related to the energizing of the solenoid or some other issue, like the ignition coil?
You should have a spark from your spark plug when pull starting your generator. Your ignition module ( ignition coil ) may be bad. Your spark has nothing to do with your solenoid. Remember you can not pull stark your Champion dual fuel generator in gasoline mode without a charged battery.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Thanks for your reply. The generator had been stored in a shed for several years but has never been used. I don't get any spark at all when pulling the cord. Could anything else be causing the no spark issue?
Bill, I have the exact same generator as you. I have never used gas in mine either. Today I went to crank it up to ensure it will start when the weather turns. I wanted to use the electric start but when I pressed it did was click. My battery is fully charged as I checked it before attempting to start it. Any thoughts on what I need to do to use the electric start?
Did you try to pull start your inverter? I also have an inverter the dual-fuel 3500 watt which is identical to yours just higher stated watts. It sounds like your oil is low or your low oil sensor is bad. Try to unhook your wiring to the oil senor and then try to start it but check the oil first. I start my inverter and the low oil light did not come on. I also pulled started the inverter with the battery switch turned off and my inverter did start and the low oil light did not come on so it does sound like the oil sensor is bad or the wiring is loose. I hope this helps. Please let me know what happens next.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Thanks Bill, actually what it turned out to be was the battery. It wouldn't hold the charge when a load to applied to it. I changed the battery and low and behold the electric ignition started right up.
I am glad that I was able to help. Also, you can pull start your generator with a dead battery in propane mode.
@@christineconrad2175 If you are going to store your generator I would put a trickle charger on your battery. I have done this and my battery has lasted a lot longer and your battery will have a full charge on it when you need it.
Hello there! I just got a new battery for my power generator (same brand and model like yours) but it didn’t start,could you please give me a reason why it did not started since the battery is just new? Thank you in advance I will really appreciate your help
P.d. When I push the start button I can hear a little click but that’s it 😞
Did you check the voltage of your new battery it could be low from sitting on the shelf? You may have to charge it. Any time I have heard a clicking noise coming from a starter it was from a low battery. Also, make sure there are no loose wires going to the starter. Let me know if this helps.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 thank you very much as soon as I do it ,I’ll let you know,hope it works!
Hi there. I have a 3500w Dual Fuel Inverter. I rarely use it because I just retired and was renovating my Class C motorhome thru the Covid crap. Already put another carb and it started. Kept the old one and cleaned it. I did put stabilizer in the gas and I should know cause I have a motorcycle also...anyhow I run it with propane and want to stay that way. Don't want to deal with carbs. It even runs my 13500 btu AC in Eco no problem. But yesterday I went to started and the exhaust had a funny noise. Louder and sputtery. Left it running a bit bit it didn't sound right. Checked the spark plug and it was ok. Its running rough. It only has 14hrs used. Its 2 years old. Battery is strong. I shut it off and it wouldn't start after. $1200 including shipping. I love it but any ideas? Thanks
I put seafoam in to stabilize gas, and I start it every other month and put a load on her. same gas
for a year now, NO problems.When done, I remove loads and either shut off and drain carb or
shut off gas an run till theres no gas in carb.
Is there a question? I would drain the gas tank or run it dry if your gasoline is over a year old. If your generator is a dual-fuel I would switch to propane for storage that way you would still have fuel if you need your generator. You can buy fresh gasoline as needed if you want to run your generator on gasoline which is a lot cheaper than propane. I only run my generator on propane. I don't want to deal with the problems that go with gasoline spoiling and ethanol.
Your 10 minute video is "Why it won't start" but you only spent 38 seconds talking about that. My gasoline part won't start, or even sounds close to starting. I tried propane for the first time and it started right up. Battery seems fine since electric starts turns over quickly and I've had a charger on it. How to I "energize the solenoid"?
If the battery is low it may still start in propane mode. You can jump-start your generator just like jumping-starting your car. If it won't start after having a good battery for sure I think the solenoid is bad in the carburetor and it is stuck propane mode.
I tried propane mode and it didn’t work. First time using it in a blackout. What a waste of money.
Hey Steve, did you ever get this issue figured out? I’m having a very similar issue. It runs on propane just fine, but won’t fire with the electric start. Battery is good and I can eventually get it going by pull starting on gas. Any ideas Bill?
Won’t fire on gas with electric start ***** doesn’t even want to fire
@@dc420ish Mine did NOT start on propane either. Bought a new battery and it fixed the gas starting. Didn't try with propane yet.
Hi Bill,
Thank you for the video. I have a champion dual fuel that won't start. It was purchased last year, run only on gas and serviced before it was stored for the winter at the cottage...some fuel remained in the tank at the time of storage with stabilizer added and the cylinder slightly lubricated...
I have yet to try the propane, but the gas option certainly isn't working. One thing you mentioned in the video has me thinking its potentially the culprit. Can you confirm that if the battery is dead or very low the gas option won't work even if pull started??? The battery light does turn on but the mechanic mentioned that the battery was in poor shape...
If thats the case, based on your video it seems like I can pull start the unit with a poor battery while using propane. Is that correct?
Last question and this one is a bit stupid... if I have tried the gas without success do I have to do anything prior to trying the propane option? Or is the combustion system in the unit separate for each fuel type. I was worried about fuel types mixing as I can only find 1 spark plug on the system. Then again, propane may have its own system all together.
Thank you and id be happy to send my email if that helped you send a response.
Joel
Yes, you can pull start your generator in the Propane mode without a battery. The generator carburetor is set to propane mode when there is not enough voltage left to switch it over to gas mode. As long as the spark plug is good you should be able to pull start your generator in propane mode. Don't forget about the choke. Also, the propane and gas systems are the same systems. The only thing different is the selected Fuel, they share the same carburetor. When you use propane it should be fine unless the gas gunked up the carburetor. I think it will start in propane mode. Please let me know if this helped.
Yes, send me your email address.
@@billteachesyoustuff9358 Hey bill, i'll be trying what you mentioned on the 16th and will update you on the progress, but in the meantime, my email is joelkoepfler@gmail.com
Cheers
What Bill said. If it cranks hard, it's the solenoid, starter, plugs, or fuel.
Yes, you can pull start it in propane mode with a weak battery or a dead battery. All you have to do to start it in propane mode is to select propane and hook it up to the tank then pull start it. You may have to use the choke. It doesn't matter if you have gas in the tank. The system is separated by a solenoid in the carburetor.
Great video did you buy it with the discount because you were in the military or you are in the military just asking so I can ask my brother to get one for me
Once a year the generators go on sale at the Navy exchange. They are discounted about $100.00 Dollars. I bought my Champion Dual Fuel model # 100297 10,000 peak watt for $699.00. They normally sell for $799.00 at the Navy Exchange which is still a lot cheaper than the other retailers. They should go on sale soon, so look for them. Good luck
I am retired from the US navy so I can shop at the Navy Exchange. The Generator has gone up to around $949.00 I don't think it will be $699.00 again.
I use Ethanol free gasoline and get a lot longer run time per gallon in my Champion generator. “Generally, the more ethanol in gasoline the lower your fuel efficiency will be,". "Go up to E85, for example, there's generally 20 percent less energy in E85 than 100% gasoline, so you generally get 20% lower fuel efficiency,"…. E15 or higher is illegal to use in boats or other gasoline-powered equipment in the United States, because due to the water absorbing properties of ethanol, it can damage the components.
Don't know what happened. Spark plug good, plenty of good gas (generator only 10 hours old total run time, all gasoline). After trying to start over and over finally a HUGH backfire (scared the hell out of me) and started right up. Easily starts right up every time since.
I spray a bit of carb cleaner onto air filter to see if it will start, that way, if it does than it is an
issue of the carb. If it does not start , it could be a bad magneto or ignition coil or plug.
U can't really expect the battery to stay good and up for a few yrs at a time. u ought to put it
on a battery tender or trickle charger for a few days every month. and start it every couple of
months AND put a LOAD on it. let gen sit too long u lose the residual magnetism that the gen
needs to build up power.
Have you tried running it on propane?
Mine starts every time I get it out. But I run a load on it every other month. Thats what the book said. And never stor it with fuel if you want it to last for yrs
I do the same. I have never had gasoline in my generators. I use propane on my Inverter Generator model # 100264 and Natural gas and propane on my big generator model # 100297 which I converted Tri-fuel. I talk about the conversion in my video on adjusting a converted Tri-fuel Generator. Bill
Mine runs for a little bit then it dies right away. never use first time.
Could you give me more information? Try disconnecting your low oil pressure sensor and see if it will run after that but make sure your engine oil is not low. Look in the parts listing in your owner's manual to find the location of the low oil sensor. Let me know how it works out.
taryl from taryt fixes all showed us fuel stabilizer doesn't work
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