I know that this video is over a year old but I just came across it and I had to comment. I had recently purchased a used Champion 3400 Dual Fuel unit that wasn't running...supposedly sat in storage for about 9 months. As I figured, the carburetor was all gunked up. I decided to replace it rather than try to clean it as it was pretty corroded. Still wouldn't start. Then started my journey of tearing the generator apart to find the problem. One of the main issues was that it had a faulty inverter board. I replaced it and it would then start but ran crappy. Anyway, it turned out that the new carburetor came with a faulty "stepper motor" on it. I just happened to have kept the old carburetor and replaced the new stepper motor with the old one and BAM, started right up and ran like a charm. Who'd of thought! After hours and hours of trouble shooting this thing, man, was I a happy camper! I let Champion know this and they promptly sent me a new carburetor. One lesson from your experience and mine that needs to be shared...never fully reassemble your generator until you have thoroughly tested it to make sure it runs right. It will save you hours of disassembly/assembly time, not to mention reducing your risk for loosing parts or ending up with "extra" parts, lol.
I didn’t believe it, so I contacted WEN generators which is very similar, if not exactly like the Champion. The manufacturer said that yes, you should use both fuel sources to prevent corrosion. Alternate the propane and gasoline every 4-6 weeks start up. Fuel stabilizer is mandatory also in the gasoline tank. Always run the generator by shuting the fuel source switch to off. Gasoline and propane will burn and empty the carburetor. This shut off procedure will prevent this. Thanks for the video.
I have a Champion Dual Fuel myself and love it......bought it at Costco several years ago and it's very dependable. And it's great you are raising your kids with the Lord. "Bring up a child in the way they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it." Proverbs 22:6.
you are a smart guy! Thanks for sharing your experience...the first time I fired my champion generator it kept shutting off...until I realized that the choke had not been adjusted! I could not get the propane to fire up...but just using gas only. thanks again for your knowledge!
Put tape over the muffler for a moment when starting if a choke is bad. You flunked high school physics, huh? Chemistry too. Either could have given you a number of solutions.
CHANGE THE OIL! Keep in mind, these small engines don't have oil filters, and barely hold one quart of oil. It's easy for the oil to become contaminated. 4 days of running it is surely enough hours, to require an oil change. When shutting off the generator, it's actually better to remove all loads, then, shut off the gas tank valve, rather than the ignition. That will empty the carburetor, so it doesn't dry out, and leave varnish behind. As the float bowl runs out of gas, ride the choke, to keep it running as long as possible. That clears the emulsion tube, as well as the idle circuit, owing to the higher vacuum created by the choke valve.
Just remember to constantly check your oil level. Also try to run your generator as level as possible to keep the oil circulating properly. Just a thought.
Hey bruh! Just had to comment on the remark your daughter had made on the Bible verse . Waaay cute . Whether the Bible is involved or not , the fact that you are guiding the future of your babies with a solid foundation and structure is definitely important to be proud of. Good on you. Good on you
Great job showing all the work and frustration and still keep on working. That's an area many of us don't do so well. I learned a lot from this video, thanks for posting. God bless!
Yeah. Without a doubt, you're one of the good ones. How do I know? Because you said what I said, but after you said, what you said before I said what I said. Nicely done. Nicely done, indeed. Definitely "Top Shelf". Definitely....
I have the Tri-Fuel 8,000/10,000 Watts for a month now and just learning about the effects of running on propane only and then having issues with the carb as told on this video. So I called the company 3 times (the first 2 times the wait time was over 2 hrs). Upon asking about the need to run it on gasoline too, the agent could not understand my thinking. He told me repeatedly to ignore peoples' suggestions (of getting into issues if only run on propane). The only thing he emphasized was, if run on gasoline, to make sure I use a fuel stabilizer or/and empty the tank (let engine run out of gas would be best). So, no clear answer from Champ. By the way, the company's support is bad (had to make other calls for a different issue) - agents are upset, rude, and non-helpful
My laymans take would be if you run on propane only you should run the gas system periodically, with a strong mix of stabil, then fully drain that gas system. Just to keep that part of the gen healthy. If they advised against that would love to see their logic. Remember sometimes tech help is some guy they pay min wage plus 10% to hand out anwers that hes not allowed or qualified to think past. Its fantasy to believe you would get someone on the phone with years of experience running their gens or anyone elses. Kind of like auto parts counter guys at autozone etc. zero experience repairing cars, and thats understandable.
Running until tank empty is good, but not completely empty the carburetor. I check it out yesterday by unscrew the carburetor bottom screw and there are about 2-3 tablespoon of fuel left.
Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it. You're not only a good mechanic but a righteous father. GOD bless you and your family! I have four daughters and this video reminded me of when they were young.
LP gas gives off water vapor in the exhaust, and doesn't get inside the carburetor. But the high humidity may find it's way into the bone dry carburetor to corrode in the float bowl and other areas inside the carburetor.
Hey. Learn the chemistry you never learned. What's the amount of water released due to the combustion of propane, NG, butane, etc? Yeah, humidity did that. God help them, please!!!
How about cooling from propane, spraying into carb throat (PV=nRT)? I don't know what the pressure drop looks like, but could it be sufficient to condense ambient humidity?
I just paid $90 to repair Honda 2200. $10 parts $80 labor. I had stabilized ethanol gas, but went too long between starts. LoJo stole the show with her Bible quote! Lol!
Youre lucky it was so cheap. I bought a used gen from a friend it had sat about 4-5 months. When I fired it up it ran about 15 seconds, then spit the connecting rod out the crankcase and across the yard. The old fuel gummed up the carb causing a lean condition which of course runs super hot and seized the piston. Luckily coleman repaired it for free under warranty even tho it was customer error.
AWESOME Information. I just fired up my Champion Dual Fuel Generator after 6 years. Bought it from Costco in 2017 and NEVER used it. It was in Storage for a few years then in my garage for a few more years. Never needed it for anything so I just never fired it up. Then with recent bad weather I figured I better pull it out and get it ready in case I need it. Put Oil in it and then tried to "electric" start it but nothing was happening. Realized I needed to use the Charge Adapter to charge the Electric Start Battery. Charged it for a Day then tried again but it still wasn't doing anything. It seemed like it was trying to turn over but was really weak. Left the charger on for a couple more days then the Electric Start Again and this time - iI could tell it was turning over. I dod not have any fuel connected yet because I did not want to actually start it until I could run it for a few hours. Finally today I connected the Propane tank and fired it up. Ran like a Champ. I bought mine strictly for use with Propane as well so this video was awesome. Had I not watched this....I would have Never thought about the problems of running Propane Only. Champion should POST a HUGE WARNING on the Generator because you are correct. Propane causes a lot of condensation. I intentionally planned to only use Propane because I did not want FUMES in my garage when storing the Generator. Guess I will have to Store it in the Shed now. Curious if it would be best to just store it with Fuel and a Fuel Stabilizer or if it will be ok to run it dry after using Gas. I plan to call Champion tomorrow to see what they suggest. THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! Very Helpful!
@@WeCanExploreIt So.....I called Champion Support. I explained that I was concerned about running my Dual Fuel Generator strictly on Propane. I explained that I planned to use only propane and not gasoline and explained the issue you experienced with the rust. The Support person told me that "The Propane fuel system is separate from the Gasoline Fuel System" and they do not have any impact on each other (paraphrasing). She told me that running strictly propane would not impact the generator. I then felt that I needed to explain further that I understood that the Propane fuel system and Gas Fuel are separate but I was concerned that SOMEHOW running Propane ONLY would harm the generator and cause the Carb or Float bowl to rust. She again insisted that it would not. I explained that people (your situation) have experienced rusting in the gasoline portion of the engine after never having run gasoline in the generator. She then started to suggest that "we" don't know the complete circumstances around "your"" situation"...and I agreed because I do not know for certain.....only what you have stated in this video. But I trust that you have no reason to be dishonest about what happened and therefore I wanted to get to the bottom of what could have happened. Since I was still questioning the Champion Support rep I could tell she was not happy with me for not just accepting her answer.....true or not.......and she started to become very "SHORT" with me. I then told her that I could tell she was not interested in helping me any further so I hung up the phone on her. I felt as though she was not going to elaborate any further than what she already stated to me which was.......Running Propane Only would have NO AFFECT on the Gas Lines. It made sense to me but I still am concerned and feel that this has not been completed resolved. Also.....I think she misunderstood me when I said that I would strictly be running the generator on Propane and She said that it would be fine and not impact the Gas. But as I had to further explain to her....what I meant was...I planned to use Propane the vast majority of time and only run Gas if the need arose. I never meant that I would NEVER .......EVER run gasoline in the generator because that completely defeats the purpose of DUAL FUEL. Bottom line is.....I am still not certain if Running Propane MOST of the time will have any impact on the Gasoline Fuel System or not and I don't think Champion Customer Support really knew either. Sure it would seem that the Propane Fuel System should have NO impact on the Gas System but I trust that you would have told us if you ever Ran gas in your generator and maybe left old gas in the generator eventually leading to the problem you encountered. I trust that You were completely honest in your video and therefore I cannot believe that this was just an unlucky circumstance although I suppose it is possible. But since I have NO idea what could have caused this and I do NOT trust what the Champion Customer Support told me....For me, I will simply take precautions and Make it a habit to run 100% GAS and fuel stabilizer in the generator every now and then just to keep any water/moisture from causing problems. Sorry for the LONG response but I was getting very aggravated with The Customer Support because I felt she was not ver "reassuring" me there was NO PROBLEM and I could tell she did not like my questioning her answer. Not sure if this is of any help to anyone else but just thought I'd share it.
I am in the same situation as you. I bought Champion 100204 3100 watts dual fuel for $599.99 at Costco around 2017 or 2018. I opened and checked the content and put its away in the shed and planning to test out later. Unfortunately, I forgotten all about it until 12/15/2024. The battery never hookup and totally dead (0V). The Noco Genius10 failed to charge the battery after 2hrs. Since Noco 10 has repair function, I used that and was able to fix the battery. It took 10 minutes to charge the battery after using repair function. The generator failed to start on gas, but no problem on propane. After playing around few minutes, I was able to get it to run on gas. I think human error tend to be problem most of the time failing to start. I also have 2006 gas only Champion C46540. It had no problem start after store in the shed and never touch since 2010. The Champion is good generator.
My Champion dual fuel 2000W arrived yesterday. I was wondering whether to break it in using gas or propane. I found your video and you saved me some continued overthinking. Also, the fact that you just dealt with the times it didn't work out exactly the way you hoped was an inspiration to me. I hope that I can stay as cool as you did. My tendency is to run to a repair shop$$$ or burn the house to the ground. Thanks, you've helped in a couple of ways.
I just was doing some run ups on the new 2000w dual fuel I just bought. Did yours smoke a bit? Mine is burning a bit of oil. Hope that goes away. Another inverter generator I have I don't recall it smoking at all
Hey, Einstein. Can't read an owners manual , the placards every company puts on their generators, due to guys like you. My SO bought the 7000, set the whole effen thing up herself, hit it out of the park. And she's a CPA. Be ashamed, man. Very ashamed....
This is an older video and so glad you got your generator running. PLUS you're a good dude I would have been cussing a blue streak- Having rebuilt my share of them type of carbs- YUP it happens- Thanks for the info and hope all is still well with you
You are teaching your children about the Lord that is the most important thing you can do in your life time. Thank you for raising your children right and teaching them about whats important
Thanks. I have a champion dual fuel as well and have never been able to get it to run. I didn't use it all for the first year, then the battery was dead. Replaced that and now that one is dead. I see you used jumper cables like I thought I might try. I will also try running on gas, non-ethanol, with sea foam or sta-bil and drain the carb or just run it till the gas is spent. I learned a lot.
Thank you for the video. For repairing generators, you showed me what not to do. For parenting, you showed me what to do correctly. You have wonderful God fearing children.
What was your wiring to hook it up to your house? Afaik, you connect your generator hot wire to either one or both hot wires in your transfer switch, the latter though creates a concern of a multiwire branch circuits with overloaded neutral. Thanks!
You are a lot more resourceful than what I did with a 4500 watt Westinghouse with an automatic choke that was stuck... I set it aside and bought a dual fuel Champion 4650. One thing I do to ensure a generator lasts a while is to use E0 gasoline with a fuel preservative, and try to run it at least a few hours monthly with a half load. I managed to have a Yamaha generator last for 5000-6000 run hours by doing this. This is very good info, as I was planning to just run propane through my dual fuel generator. However, it might just be wise to run gasoline, then use propane near the end just to get any gas out of the carb bowl, but not so much propane as to cause water buildup.
You never took high school chemistry or physics I get. What the f¥k is the biggest by product of fossil fuel in a gaseous state? Tootsie Rolls.? Either they don't pay teachers enough or they pay them too much. Not sure which it is.
The open frame Champions have a shut off valve which allows you to isolate the carb from the tank. It also has a drain screw to drain the gas out when you're done, but I usually just run it out of gas. I guess the enclosed generators aren't this way? Good info for others who have the same gen. Thanks for the video.
You should run a quart of gas through it every 3 months. Keep up with the oil changes per the manual. If you leave gas in it, add some stabilizer. Plus running it every three months is also a good way to remind yourself to charge the battery. :) Also use REC GAS if you can. (90oct no ethanol) Marathon stations have it. Keeps that carb from gumming up.
I have a 20 year old generator that only runs on gas, and sometimes I don't run it for several years until I need it. When I do run it I ensure that I run it until the fuel tank is empty and I have always use standard gas with ethanol. As long as you let the unit run until empty the carb stays clean. No need to constantly maintain fuel if there is no fuel. But I also have no battery to maintain.
You missed the part where it says Keep ur unit on LEVEL GROUND and add sta-bil to your gas and keep your battery charged and run your unit every few months...Yada Yada Yada
I have a 6500 watt Coleman generator that is over 15 years old...and I use sta-built in my ethanol free gas and start mine once a month and it always always starts on the first pull and runs great!!! You do that and you won't have all these headaches ever again!!!!
Are you saying that by running only propane, condensed water collected in carb? I thought propane was a clean fuel. If you or anyone else can explain, I would appreciate. And what about units designed to only run on propane or natural gas, do their carbs rust from condensation? Perhaps there's something else going on here
Propane produces water when it’s burned. As I recall, it’s a 1 to 1 ratio. Most of that should leave through the exhaust. Running a propane heater or stove in a small space, like an RV will put moisture in the air that can lead to mold issues. It makes sense that running only on propane would leave some condensation inside the engine (carburetor). As I just purchased a duel fuel (Champion) generator and had planed on only running propane, I’ll be checking with Champion tech support to verify this. I’ll also be asking if draining the carburetor will fix this without the need to run gasoline.
@@stevenholton438 Something came up and I had to put my generator break in run on hold. I’m planning to get back to it this next week. I’ll post the info I get back from Champion then. Thanks for tagging me and bringing this back to the top of my notifications. D.
@@westmountainadventures3606 Thanks for responding too! I have a 2 week old Champion 3800 which ran fine for about 10 days on propane but has currently left me shivering in my cabin in Alaska for 5 days. I am trying to get Tech Support to elevate my case.
Champion has a video on prepping a generator for storage, and they show draining the carb, maybe doing that periodically would drain any condesate as well and MIGHT have prevented this. Have you talked to Champion tech support and see what they say about this happening? John
Everything I've seen previously said it's best to run strictly on propane and never use gas to avoid a clogged carb. This is the first I've seen anyone go against that.
Thanks for the great tip. I'm picking up my dual fuel Champion today and I'll (hopefully) remember this tip. Also, it's great to see you're building wonderful memories with your 5 kids. We have 6 and really enjoyed our many camping vacations and road trips with them. They are all grown now and one has even bought an RV of her own.
I just bought a dual fuel Champion generator and never thought that running it on propane could give me that condensation problem. Can you please explain how to properly run it so this won’t happen?
The gasoline drain was in my manual for the 2500 duel fuel. No mention of running it on gasoline from time to time to keep the carburetor clean. I may see if I can fit a gasoline cut off into the line so I can run it dry instead of draining it for short periods of non- use. I also use fuel stabilizer in all my small engines just in case I don't get back and start them as planned. As an aside I have also used the stabilizer at twice the normal amount in cars that I left for 3-9 months when on trips to Alaska from Texas. None have needed any fuel system work over the four years in Alaska and the five years after we came back full time in the lower 48.
I have one of these Generators without LP hook up. I usually don't leave gasoline in the tank. An old friend of mine that repairs generators always told me to run the gas out and empty the bowl. He was right, I have a generator that is 30 plus years old and it worked to keep it running. But this champion I wonder about what they are making the gas tanks out of? I had used regular mostly and some with no alcohol. We had a tornado last year and was out of power for a week, I ran it dry. Now I went out to exercise it and the tank is rusted inside, my brothers tank was rusted in less than a year. A friend of mine has told me there is a guy here in Chattanooga that if you take the tank off and take it to him he, cleans the rust out some way, glass bead or pecan shells or something and can re coat the inside of the gas tank with a better coating. I have a brand new Firman Tri-Fuel and now I am confused. I had planned to never put gasoline in it unless I just had to.
A little pointer, no need to create a 13 minute video on a simple fix solution such as running gas periodically if you usually use propane. Save your viewers some time on this one. UA-cam shorts are perfect for something like this. Then you can do a separate DIY video on all the work you did on it to help clean it up. I spent 6 mins or so just skipping ahead 10 seconds at a time until you got to the question at hand. Hope this helps you out.
Sorry pal. But you clued a few people in. Hope you found a good no name carb, at least. Propane may create a pound of water for every two pounds burned. Every generator needs to be to be gone over as close to 1 use, 1 complete clean out as possible. Not usually possible, but that's what would be vest, so you meet in the middle. Now you know why gas furnaces used to rust out so fast. It's a lesson that may pay you 100 times over in your life, though.
I get a 5 gallon barrel of Sunoco Race Fuel, its “ethanol free”. With stabilizer added all my small engines run fine & I don’t have to worry about gas left in the tank. My Champion won’t start now but it’s the battery.
Great video by the way your daughter was correct. Deut 22-5 A woman does not wear that which pertains to a man, nor does a man put on a woman’s garment, for whoever does this is an abomination to יהוה your Elohim. Smart young lady!
Ephesians 1:16 lol she is too adrorable and your sons mischievous smile on the intro of the video is priceless. lol and I can't believe you found that little part on the grass.
We actually have a generator hookup on the house that I found. I made a wire to hookup to that and wired the 110 to both poles in the house. I had to make sure all the 240v stuff was shutoff at the box, so I don’t talk about that stuff in vids cause it can be kinda dangerous if you don’t double check your work. Let me know if you have any questions on that and I’ll be glad to help. Hope you guys are doing well. You doing any camping and if so where you guys going?
Thanks for posting this. We would rather see reality as it exists instead of a fictional account that portrays everything as always works out 100% correct all the time. Maybe someone else watching this won't now forget to reinstall the main jet and mixing tube :). JC
I ran my recently sold 10KW Champion generator for 18 months on just propane and I never had one single issue. I recently sold it because I wanted an inverter generator so I bought their 8750 watt model. I did the initial five hour engine break in cycle using gasoline only. But I have since then converted it to a tri fuel set up and it will never see gasoline again. Propane is so much better than gasoline in terms of fuel supply practicality along with having a much cleaner running engine as opposed to gasoline.
So, bottom line: Run the generator with gasoline every so often, to prevent this problem. And if you never, ever, want to run it on gasoline, then this won't be an issue. Is this accurate?
Nitro RC trucks have the same problem because their fuel attracts moisture what you have to do is spray some WD-40 or seafoam deep creep into the carburetor right before you shut it off that will take the lubricant into the carb and the combustion chamber and keep it from rusting
Thanks for the good info / entertainment! Just curious but I’m looking at a dual-fuel generator for my travel trailer... does it need to be an inverter generator? Thanks
Plus inverters produce "clean" electric. A regular open frame can damage cell phones, laptops anything electric with technology. A regular gen is fine for power tools but that about it. Your travel trailer needs a INVERTER :)
Thanks for the video. I would never had known this (about condensation build up from using only propane). Watching to the end I Was really rooting for you. Your determination and stick-to-it-ness was Rocky like inspiring. By the way, ethanol is hygroscopic, meaning is will absorb moisture from the air. As in, over time water will seem to magically appear in your tank, go to the bottom, and be the 1st thing the pickup tube draws. So "gas goes bad" is kinda sorta true and kinda misleading. Removing the water from the bottom of, or replacing all the gas from, tank and carb, usually gets a motor started if it sits.
Awesome baby girl.. I have the same generator... I'm charging the battery on the generator.... does the battery switch need to be on while I'm charging it?
I would never run gas through my dual fuel generator unless I was desperate. I spray WD-40 into the tank to displace water and inhibit rust. We used WD-40 to keep rust off the equipment at the machine shop.
Quick tip for you get a set of oxy/acetylene tip cleaners and use that for cleaning pilot jets/ main jets ..using proper diameter cleaner tip . From a fellow generator owner. God Bless you and your family
Dude we JUST met at the center lake camp ground, I was staying at upper loop in the grey wolf toy hauler and riding the Coleman bike. You gave me your card. Was just doing research on a new generator I upgraded to today got to steal on it, and I was like why does this guy look familiar in this video and then I saw your shirt and recognized the business name
Been chatting with my wife about the product, if we get a opportunity where we can set off for a long term journey we will definitely get ahold of you for pricing
I run VP 94 small engine fuel or trufuel in my power equipment ..NO ETHANOL. PRICEY BUT WORTH IT NEVER ISSUES STARTING/RUNNING. You could run that after the propane for a few minutes.
Thanks for the tip about propane and rusty carbs. Just got a dual fuel generator, be sure to run some gas though just to keep everything lubricated. 🛢💦
go to your local airport and purchase a couple of gallons of AVGAS for aircraft. Keep that fuel in generators when not being used. It will not go bad our accumulate moisture.
I have a small generator that I only run on propane for 4-5yrs now and the gas tank is dry, with no rust. I only use this generator maybe once or twice a year.
Just bought a champion 4500 invertor generator today. I was in a hurry and this was a last moment purchase. Had I know it was only electric start I wouldn’t have got it, but I am new to your channel and wanted to say thanks for the video. Subbed
Good to know, I assumed they had a backup pull rope. Does the starter battery recharge while the generator is running? If not I will stay away from that model. I know it would ALWAYS be dead when I needed it most:)
Propane sucks it only gives you half the wattage that degenerator makes just use fresh gas and after you're done using your generator turn the gas off and let it run until that carburetor is empty of gas then you don't have issues with bad gas in the carburetor
Maybe so BUT there are times when having Propane can be a LIFESAVER. THAT is why I bought a Dual Fuel Generator. If you've ever seen the LINES for Gasoline when a Hurricane is coming or there is an emergency.....you'd be HAPPY to have a propane generator versus NO Generator. PLUS--- EVER Try storing 25 gallons of EXPLOSIVE Gasoline in a shed with all the FUMES? It can be scary. YES Propane is EXPLOSIVE but much safer than transporting and storing multiple 5 gal cans of GASOLINE. Giving up a little power by using Propane becomes less of an issue over the safety factor.
So, am I to understand "This Fluid" is the Sea Foam? Thank you for putting this video together. Looking at a Champion Dual Fuel myself. For use similar to what you are using it for.
Just google "ethanol-free gas stations near me" It will generally be premium 92/93 octane and will cost more, but nothing close to the price of TruFuel.
Propane generators are horrible. They suck in the cold weather because the orifices in the brass fuel delivery system constricts as soon as it gets cold. I’ve been living 100% off grid for 3 years now and I would never buy another propane generator. When it gets cold and you need them most, they refuse to work. Dual fuel is a good idea in theory, but in practice not so much. My Champion gasoline generators work flawlessly no matter what the conditions. I’ve run my dual fuel generators in the summer without issue, just not reliable (on propane) whatsoever in the winter. I’ve never had any carb issues, likely because I always keep gas in my dual fuel Champ year round.
I know that this video is over a year old but I just came across it and I had to comment. I had recently purchased a used Champion 3400 Dual Fuel unit that wasn't running...supposedly sat in storage for about 9 months. As I figured, the carburetor was all gunked up. I decided to replace it rather than try to clean it as it was pretty corroded. Still wouldn't start. Then started my journey of tearing the generator apart to find the problem. One of the main issues was that it had a faulty inverter board. I replaced it and it would then start but ran crappy. Anyway, it turned out that the new carburetor came with a faulty "stepper motor" on it. I just happened to have kept the old carburetor and replaced the new stepper motor with the old one and BAM, started right up and ran like a charm. Who'd of thought! After hours and hours of trouble shooting this thing, man, was I a happy camper! I let Champion know this and they promptly sent me a new carburetor. One lesson from your experience and mine that needs to be shared...never fully reassemble your generator until you have thoroughly tested it to make sure it runs right. It will save you hours of disassembly/assembly time, not to mention reducing your risk for loosing parts or ending up with "extra" parts, lol.
I didn’t believe it, so I contacted WEN generators which is very similar, if not exactly like the Champion. The manufacturer said that yes, you should use both fuel sources to prevent corrosion. Alternate the propane and gasoline every 4-6 weeks start up. Fuel stabilizer is mandatory also in the gasoline tank. Always run the generator by shuting the fuel source switch to off. Gasoline and propane will burn and empty the carburetor. This shut off procedure will prevent this. Thanks for the video.
I have a Champion Dual Fuel myself and love it......bought it at Costco several years ago and it's very dependable. And it's great you are raising your kids with the Lord. "Bring up a child in the way they should go and when they are old they will not depart from it." Proverbs 22:6.
you are a smart guy! Thanks for sharing your experience...the first time I fired my champion generator it kept shutting off...until I realized that the choke had not been adjusted! I could not get the propane to fire up...but just using gas only. thanks again for your knowledge!
Put tape over the muffler for a moment when starting if a choke is bad. You flunked high school physics, huh? Chemistry too. Either could have given you a number of solutions.
CHANGE THE OIL! Keep in mind, these small engines don't have oil filters, and barely hold one quart of oil. It's easy for the oil to become contaminated. 4 days of running it is surely enough hours, to require an oil change.
When shutting off the generator, it's actually better to remove all loads, then, shut off the gas tank valve, rather than the ignition. That will empty the carburetor, so it doesn't dry out, and leave varnish behind. As the float bowl runs out of gas, ride the choke, to keep it running as long as possible. That clears the emulsion tube, as well as the idle circuit, owing to the higher vacuum created by the choke valve.
Just remember to constantly check your oil level. Also try to run your generator as level as possible to keep the oil circulating properly. Just a thought.
Thanks Miguel!
Good point, most people don’t realize that if the oil is low you’ll never keep it running, or get it running because of the oil kill switch!
Ur main jet is probably plugged also
Hey bruh! Just had to comment on the remark your daughter had made on the Bible verse . Waaay cute . Whether the Bible is involved or not , the fact that you are guiding the future of your babies with a solid foundation and structure is definitely important to be proud of. Good on you. Good on you
Great job showing all the work and frustration and still keep on working. That's an area many of us don't do so well. I learned a lot from this video, thanks for posting. God bless!
Yeah. Without a doubt, you're one of the good ones. How do I know? Because you said what I said, but after you said, what you said before I said what I said.
Nicely done. Nicely done, indeed. Definitely "Top Shelf". Definitely....
I have the Tri-Fuel 8,000/10,000 Watts for a month now and just learning about the effects of running on propane only and then having issues with the carb as told on this video. So I called the company 3 times (the first 2 times the wait time was over 2 hrs). Upon asking about the need to run it on gasoline too, the agent could not understand my thinking. He told me repeatedly to ignore peoples' suggestions (of getting into issues if only run on propane). The only thing he emphasized was, if run on gasoline, to make sure I use a fuel stabilizer or/and empty the tank (let engine run out of gas would be best). So, no clear answer from Champ. By the way, the company's support is bad (had to make other calls for a different issue) - agents are upset, rude, and non-helpful
My laymans take would be if you run on propane only you should run the gas system periodically, with a strong mix of stabil, then fully drain that gas system. Just to keep that part of the gen healthy. If they advised against that would love to see their logic.
Remember sometimes tech help is some guy they pay min wage plus 10% to hand out anwers that hes not allowed or qualified to think past. Its fantasy to believe you would get someone on the phone with years of experience running their gens or anyone elses. Kind of like auto parts counter guys at autozone etc. zero experience repairing cars, and thats understandable.
Running until tank empty is good, but not completely empty the carburetor. I check it out yesterday by unscrew the carburetor bottom screw and there are about 2-3 tablespoon of fuel left.
Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it. You're not only a good mechanic but a righteous father. GOD bless you and your family! I have four daughters and this video reminded me of when they were young.
LP gas gives off water vapor in the exhaust, and doesn't get inside the carburetor. But the high humidity may find it's way into the bone dry carburetor to corrode in the float bowl and other areas inside the carburetor.
Hey. Learn the chemistry you never learned. What's the amount of water released due to the combustion of propane, NG, butane, etc? Yeah, humidity did that. God help them, please!!!
How about cooling from propane, spraying into carb throat (PV=nRT)?
I don't know what the pressure drop looks like, but could it be sufficient to condense ambient humidity?
I just paid $90 to repair Honda 2200. $10 parts $80 labor. I had stabilized ethanol gas, but went too long between starts. LoJo stole the show with her Bible quote! Lol!
I know right? She says the funniest stuff sometimes:)
Youre lucky it was so cheap. I bought a used gen from a friend it had sat about 4-5 months. When I fired it up it ran about 15 seconds, then spit the connecting rod out the crankcase and across the yard. The old fuel gummed up the carb causing a lean condition which of course runs super hot and seized the piston. Luckily coleman repaired it for free under warranty even tho it was customer error.
No. 10 in parts. 80 because the guy took the time to learn what you didn't. It's called fair trade. Please finish high school, ok?
AWESOME Information. I just fired up my Champion Dual Fuel Generator after 6 years. Bought it from Costco in 2017 and NEVER used it. It was in Storage for a few years then in my garage for a few more years. Never needed it for anything so I just never fired it up. Then with recent bad weather I figured I better pull it out and get it ready in case I need it. Put Oil in it and then tried to "electric" start it but nothing was happening. Realized I needed to use the Charge Adapter to charge the Electric Start Battery. Charged it for a Day then tried again but it still wasn't doing anything. It seemed like it was trying to turn over but was really weak. Left the charger on for a couple more days then the Electric Start Again and this time - iI could tell it was turning over. I dod not have any fuel connected yet because I did not want to actually start it until I could run it for a few hours. Finally today I connected the Propane tank and fired it up. Ran like a Champ. I bought mine strictly for use with Propane as well so this video was awesome. Had I not watched this....I would have Never thought about the problems of running Propane Only. Champion should POST a HUGE WARNING on the Generator because you are correct. Propane causes a lot of condensation. I intentionally planned to only use Propane because I did not want FUMES in my garage when storing the Generator. Guess I will have to Store it in the Shed now. Curious if it would be best to just store it with Fuel and a Fuel Stabilizer or if it will be ok to run it dry after using Gas. I plan to call Champion tomorrow to see what they suggest. THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS VIDEO!!!! Very Helpful!
No problem! Glad it helped! Let me know what they say!
@@WeCanExploreIt So.....I called Champion Support. I explained that I was concerned about running my Dual Fuel Generator strictly on Propane. I explained that I planned to use only propane and not gasoline and explained the issue you experienced with the rust. The Support person told me that "The Propane fuel system is separate from the Gasoline Fuel System" and they do not have any impact on each other (paraphrasing). She told me that running strictly propane would not impact the generator. I then felt that I needed to explain further that I understood that the Propane fuel system and Gas Fuel are separate but I was concerned that SOMEHOW running Propane ONLY would harm the generator and cause the Carb or Float bowl to rust. She again insisted that it would not. I explained that people (your situation) have experienced rusting in the gasoline portion of the engine after never having run gasoline in the generator. She then started to suggest that "we" don't know the complete circumstances around "your"" situation"...and I agreed because I do not know for certain.....only what you have stated in this video. But I trust that you have no reason to be dishonest about what happened and therefore I wanted to get to the bottom of what could have happened. Since I was still questioning the Champion Support rep I could tell she was not happy with me for not just accepting her answer.....true or not.......and she started to become very "SHORT" with me. I then told her that I could tell she was not interested in helping me any further so I hung up the phone on her. I felt as though she was not going to elaborate any further than what she already stated to me which was.......Running Propane Only would have NO AFFECT on the Gas Lines. It made sense to me but I still am concerned and feel that this has not been completed resolved. Also.....I think she misunderstood me when I said that I would strictly be running the generator on Propane and She said that it would be fine and not impact the Gas. But as I had to further explain to her....what I meant was...I planned to use Propane the vast majority of time and only run Gas if the need arose. I never meant that I would NEVER .......EVER run gasoline in the generator because that completely defeats the purpose of DUAL FUEL. Bottom line is.....I am still not certain if Running Propane MOST of the time will have any impact on the Gasoline Fuel System or not and I don't think Champion Customer Support really knew either. Sure it would seem that the Propane Fuel System should have NO impact on the Gas System but I trust that you would have told us if you ever Ran gas in your generator and maybe left old gas in the generator eventually leading to the problem you encountered. I trust that You were completely honest in your video and therefore I cannot believe that this was just an unlucky circumstance although I suppose it is possible. But since I have NO idea what could have caused this and I do NOT trust what the Champion Customer Support told me....For me, I will simply take precautions and Make it a habit to run 100% GAS and fuel stabilizer in the generator every now and then just to keep any water/moisture from causing problems. Sorry for the LONG response but I was getting very aggravated with The Customer Support because I felt she was not ver "reassuring" me there was NO PROBLEM and I could tell she did not like my questioning her answer. Not sure if this is of any help to anyone else but just thought I'd share it.
I am in the same situation as you. I bought Champion 100204 3100 watts dual fuel for $599.99 at Costco around 2017 or 2018. I opened and checked the content and put its away in the shed and planning to test out later. Unfortunately, I forgotten all about it until 12/15/2024. The battery never hookup and totally dead (0V). The Noco Genius10 failed to charge the battery after 2hrs. Since Noco 10 has repair function, I used that and was able to fix the battery. It took 10 minutes to charge the battery after using repair function. The generator failed to start on gas, but no problem on propane. After playing around few minutes, I was able to get it to run on gas. I think human error tend to be problem most of the time failing to start. I also have 2006 gas only Champion C46540. It had no problem start after store in the shed and never touch since 2010. The Champion is good generator.
My Champion dual fuel 2000W arrived yesterday. I was wondering whether to break it in using gas or propane. I found your video and you saved me some continued overthinking. Also, the fact that you just dealt with the times it didn't work out exactly the way you hoped was an inspiration to me. I hope that I can stay as cool as you did. My tendency is to run to a repair shop$$$ or burn the house to the ground. Thanks, you've helped in a couple of ways.
Hey You can break new engine in with Royal Purple or Amsoil breakin oil then change over to the specific grade oil your generator calls for.
I just was doing some run ups on the new 2000w dual fuel I just bought. Did yours smoke a bit? Mine is burning a bit of oil. Hope that goes away. Another inverter generator I have I don't recall it smoking at all
Hey, Einstein. Can't read an owners manual , the placards every company puts on their generators, due to guys like you. My SO bought the 7000, set the whole effen thing up herself, hit it out of the park. And she's a CPA. Be ashamed, man. Very ashamed....
This is an older video and so glad you got your generator running. PLUS you're a good dude I would have been cussing a blue streak- Having rebuilt my share of them type of carbs- YUP it happens- Thanks for the info and hope all is still well with you
You are teaching your children about the Lord that is the most important thing you can do in your life time. Thank you for raising your children right and teaching them about whats important
Thanks. I have a champion dual fuel as well and have never been able to get it to run. I didn't use it all for the first year, then the battery was dead. Replaced that and now that one is dead. I see you used jumper cables like I thought I might try. I will also try running on gas, non-ethanol, with sea foam or sta-bil and drain the carb or just run it till the gas is spent. I learned a lot.
Geezus MFing Christmss!!! Who is it that let's you guys buy fossil fuel machines. Stick to solar power.
Thank you for the video. For repairing generators, you showed me what not to do. For parenting, you showed me what to do correctly. You have wonderful God fearing children.
What was your wiring to hook it up to your house?
Afaik, you connect your generator hot wire to either one or both hot wires in your transfer switch, the latter though creates a concern of a multiwire branch circuits with overloaded neutral.
Thanks!
Yeah, ok. Read it off a label?
You are a lot more resourceful than what I did with a 4500 watt Westinghouse with an automatic choke that was stuck... I set it aside and bought a dual fuel Champion 4650. One thing I do to ensure a generator lasts a while is to use E0 gasoline with a fuel preservative, and try to run it at least a few hours monthly with a half load. I managed to have a Yamaha generator last for 5000-6000 run hours by doing this.
This is very good info, as I was planning to just run propane through my dual fuel generator. However, it might just be wise to run gasoline, then use propane near the end just to get any gas out of the carb bowl, but not so much propane as to cause water buildup.
You happy with your 4650? Not sure why champion offers both a 4500 and a 4650. Appreciate your thoughts.
You never took high school chemistry or physics I get. What the f¥k is the biggest by product of fossil fuel in a gaseous state? Tootsie Rolls.? Either they don't pay teachers enough or they pay them too much. Not sure which it is.
The open frame Champions have a shut off valve which allows you to isolate the carb from the tank. It also has a drain screw to drain the gas out when you're done, but I usually just run it out of gas. I guess the enclosed generators aren't this way? Good info for others who have the same gen. Thanks for the video.
You should run a quart of gas through it every 3 months. Keep up with the oil changes per the manual. If you leave gas in it, add some stabilizer. Plus running it every three months is also a good way to remind yourself to charge the battery. :)
Also use REC GAS if you can. (90oct no ethanol) Marathon stations have it. Keeps that carb from gumming up.
I have a 20 year old generator that only runs on gas, and sometimes I don't run it for several years until I need it. When I do run it I ensure that I run it until the fuel tank is empty and I have always use standard gas with ethanol. As long as you let the unit run until empty the carb stays clean. No need to constantly maintain fuel if there is no fuel. But I also have no battery to maintain.
Every time I get gas in cans, I always put stabil in it. Never know the last time you're gonna use something for a few months.
You missed the part where it says Keep ur unit on LEVEL GROUND and add sta-bil to your gas and keep your battery charged and run your unit every few months...Yada Yada Yada
Very valuable and useful information. I'm glad I stumbled across this video. Thank you! May God bless you and your beautiful family.
Need to run a welder need a 220v 50 amp breaker . Did the champion have it?
I have a 6500 watt Coleman generator that is over 15 years old...and I use sta-built in my ethanol free gas and start mine once a month and it always always starts on the first pull and runs great!!! You do that and you won't have all these headaches ever again!!!!
Sta -Built? How about Stay - Uneducated?
Are you saying that by running only propane, condensed water collected in carb? I thought propane was a clean fuel.
If you or anyone else can explain, I would appreciate. And what about units designed to only run on propane or natural gas, do their carbs rust from condensation?
Perhaps there's something else going on here
I know this guy isn't clear
Propane produces water when it’s burned. As I recall, it’s a 1 to 1 ratio. Most of that should leave through the exhaust.
Running a propane heater or stove in a small space, like an RV will put moisture in the air that can lead to mold issues.
It makes sense that running only on propane would leave some condensation inside the engine (carburetor).
As I just purchased a duel fuel (Champion) generator and had planed on only running propane, I’ll be checking with Champion tech support to verify this. I’ll also be asking if draining the carburetor will fix this without the need to run gasoline.
@@westmountainadventures3606 Did they manage to shed any light on this issue?
@@stevenholton438 Something came up and I had to put my generator break in run on hold. I’m planning to get back to it this next week. I’ll post the info I get back from Champion then.
Thanks for tagging me and bringing this back to the top of my notifications.
D.
@@westmountainadventures3606 Thanks for responding too! I have a 2 week old Champion 3800 which ran fine for about 10 days on propane but has currently left me shivering in my cabin in Alaska for 5 days. I am trying to get Tech Support to elevate my case.
Champion has a video on prepping a generator for storage, and they show draining the carb, maybe doing that periodically would drain any condesate as well and MIGHT have prevented this. Have you talked to Champion tech support and see what they say about this happening?
John
Everything I've seen previously said it's best to run strictly on propane and never use gas to avoid a clogged carb. This is the first I've seen anyone go against that.
Use alkylate petrol - it is Very clean.
Thanks for the great tip. I'm picking up my dual fuel Champion today and I'll (hopefully) remember this tip. Also, it's great to see you're building wonderful memories with your 5 kids. We have 6 and really enjoyed our many camping vacations and road trips with them. They are all grown now and one has even bought an RV of her own.
Thanks Derek!
@@WeCanExploreIt , I love the " part about the dress"... just priceless.... keep being a great father for your kids...
Great video very honest this is stuff we all do like having to take it apart 3 times and find missing parts
I just bought a dual fuel Champion generator and never thought that running it on propane could give me that condensation problem. Can you please explain how to properly run it so this won’t happen?
You are a good mechaic! Beautiful rural home!
The gasoline drain was in my manual for the 2500 duel fuel. No mention of running it on gasoline from time to time to keep the carburetor clean. I may see if I can fit a gasoline cut off into the line so I can run it dry instead of draining it for short periods of non- use. I also use fuel stabilizer in all my small engines just in case I don't get back and start them as planned.
As an aside I have also used the stabilizer at twice the normal amount in cars that I left for 3-9 months when on trips to Alaska from Texas. None have needed any fuel system work over the four years in Alaska and the five years after we came back full time in the lower 48.
My comment is 4 years later hehehe.
Nice video and a blessed family.
To prevent gasoline for going bad, look for ethanol free gasoline at your gas station. Also add Sta-Bil to your gasoline.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I have one of these Generators without LP hook up. I usually don't leave gasoline in the tank. An old friend of mine that repairs generators always told me to run the gas out and empty the bowl. He was right, I have a generator that is 30 plus years old and it worked to keep it running. But this champion I wonder about what they are making the gas tanks out of? I had used regular mostly and some with no alcohol. We had a tornado last year and was out of power for a week, I ran it dry. Now I went out to exercise it and the tank is rusted inside, my brothers tank was rusted in less than a year. A friend of mine has told me there is a guy here in Chattanooga that if you take the tank off and take it to him he, cleans the rust out some way, glass bead or pecan shells or something and can re coat the inside of the gas tank with a better coating. I have a brand new Firman Tri-Fuel and now I am confused. I had planned to never put gasoline in it unless I just had to.
Watching your video helped me determine I’m buying the open frame model champion inverter. Great job
Glad I could help!
It will be loud AF. I have the same gen as this guy, for 8 years, and it's great. Only run propane and the sound doesn't bother neighbors.
Well done young man!
I was going to buy a duel fuel but if you need to keep gas in it I'll just buy a gas generator. Also cheaper. I'm glad I found you.
A little pointer, no need to create a 13 minute video on a simple fix solution such as running gas periodically if you usually use propane. Save your viewers some time on this one. UA-cam shorts are perfect for something like this. Then you can do a separate DIY video on all the work you did on it to help clean it up. I spent 6 mins or so just skipping ahead 10 seconds at a time until you got to the question at hand. Hope this helps you out.
Thanks for the feedback - shorts wasn't a thing when I made this vid but I will definitely check it out in the future.
Sorry pal. But you clued a few people in. Hope you found a good no name carb, at least. Propane may create a pound of water for every two pounds burned. Every generator needs to be to be gone over as close to 1 use, 1 complete clean out as possible. Not usually possible, but that's what would be vest, so you meet in the middle. Now you know why gas furnaces used to rust out so fast. It's a lesson that may pay you 100 times over in your life, though.
No, your comment was worthless. Hope this helps you out. Don't consider making a career as a writer or public speaker.
Hey. You f¥kd up? Who doesn't. And you recovered elegantly. How many do?
Thanks, you just convinced me to get a gas only model, because there’s less oddball things that can go wrong.😜
Thanks. Just got a dual fuel. Wanting to use propane or add an NG kit. Now I'll know to drain the carb bowl
I get a 5 gallon barrel of Sunoco Race Fuel, its “ethanol free”. With stabilizer added all my small engines run fine & I don’t have to worry about gas left in the tank. My Champion won’t start now but it’s the battery.
Great video by the way your daughter was correct. Deut 22-5 A woman does not wear that which pertains to a man, nor does a man put on a woman’s garment, for whoever does this is an abomination to יהוה your Elohim. Smart young lady!
Ephesians 1:16 lol she is too adrorable and your sons mischievous smile on the intro of the video is priceless. lol and I can't believe you found that little part on the grass.
Also, can you tell me how did you used the generator connected to the house?
We actually have a generator hookup on the house that I found. I made a wire to hookup to that and wired the 110 to both poles in the house. I had to make sure all the 240v stuff was shutoff at the box, so I don’t talk about that stuff in vids cause it can be kinda dangerous if you don’t double check your work. Let me know if you have any questions on that and I’ll be glad to help. Hope you guys are doing well. You doing any camping and if so where you guys going?
So, it was the fluid, and NOT the carburetor parts you forgot to put back in??? 😂😂😂
Is this a inverter model ?
That dont mess up electronics.
What's the names of the lightest and the most quietest 4,000w gas generators with electric start and or remote start that can use gas or propane ?
Was that inverter generator a dual fuel or did you get an after market kit?
Hey Nick it was the dual fuel.
Thanks for posting this. We would rather see reality as it exists instead of a fictional account that portrays everything as always works out 100% correct all the time. Maybe someone else watching this won't now forget to reinstall the main jet and mixing tube :). JC
Thanks JC! I didn’t record that it took about an hour to find the jet and tube in the grass, but boy was I glad to find it! Have a good one!
I ran my recently sold 10KW Champion generator for 18 months on just propane and I never had one single issue. I recently sold it because I wanted an inverter generator so I bought their 8750 watt model. I did the initial five hour engine break in cycle using gasoline only. But I have since then converted it to a tri fuel set up and it will never see gasoline again. Propane is so much better than gasoline in terms of fuel supply practicality along with having a much cleaner running engine as opposed to gasoline.
I wonder if I could do a break in purely on propane. Or do you think it would cause issues?
@@cipherfxmp I read that you don’t want to break in an engine on propane unless the unit already came as a dual fuel setup.
Need to clean the jets out also. One on bottom of float bowl. One under screw on to of carb
Good to know Nick. I was planning to do the propane conversion kit on my Honda. You may have saved me some trouble.
Honda inverter? Let me know how that goes. Later!
Is the tank metal also
You are the man!!! Congratulations Lovely family
Always, always use non-ethanol gasoline with either sea foam or stabil in it.
Thanks for the tip!
He was using strictly propane.
Hey Thanks, im converting my Champion gas generator to propane, i will keep in mind to run it with gas regularly
So, bottom line: Run the generator with gasoline every so often, to prevent this problem. And if you never, ever, want to run it on gasoline, then this won't be an issue. Is this accurate?
Technically yes. It did run on propane even though the carb was all rusted out
Nitro RC trucks have the same problem because their fuel attracts moisture what you have to do is spray some WD-40 or seafoam deep creep into the carburetor right before you shut it off that will take the lubricant into the carb and the combustion chamber and keep it from rusting
Thanks for the good info / entertainment! Just curious but I’m looking at a dual-fuel generator for my travel trailer... does it need to be an inverter generator? Thanks
Hey Blake the inverter ones are the quiet ones. Campers don’t like the really loud ones around them :)
Plus inverters produce "clean" electric. A regular open frame can damage cell phones, laptops anything electric with technology. A regular gen is fine for power tools but that about it. Your travel trailer needs a INVERTER :)
Thanks for the video. I would never had known this (about condensation build up from using only propane).
Watching to the end I
Was really rooting for you. Your determination and stick-to-it-ness was Rocky like inspiring.
By the way, ethanol is hygroscopic, meaning is will absorb moisture from the air. As in, over time water will seem to magically appear in your tank, go to the bottom, and be the 1st thing the pickup tube draws. So "gas goes bad" is kinda sorta true and kinda misleading. Removing the water from the bottom of, or replacing all the gas from, tank and carb, usually gets a motor started if it sits.
If I lived there, I don't think I'd ever have to go camping/RVing.
The dad joke about not having any bread killed me.
Awesome baby girl.. I have the same generator... I'm charging the battery on the generator.... does the battery switch need to be on while I'm charging it?
Love your video! Great to see you teach your kids the Bible. Love the "old sock" thing too.
I am glad you Repaired it I would not have known because , not Machanically Inclined
I would never run gas through my dual fuel generator unless I was desperate. I spray WD-40 into the tank to displace water and inhibit rust. We used WD-40 to keep rust off the equipment at the machine shop.
Quick tip for you get a set of oxy/acetylene tip cleaners and use that for cleaning pilot jets/ main jets ..using proper diameter cleaner tip .
From a fellow generator owner.
God Bless you and your family
Gas generators test your faith. 😀
They sure do!
I think its wonderful that you found those parts Great Job.
Thanks Santa! I was definitely great full that they were bright gold! Have a good one!
Dude we JUST met at the center lake camp ground, I was staying at upper loop in the grey wolf toy hauler and riding the Coleman bike. You gave me your card. Was just doing research on a new generator I upgraded to today got to steal on it, and I was like why does this guy look familiar in this video and then I saw your shirt and recognized the business name
Hey! Yes - nice to meet you! That place is awesome isn't it? It's a great place to have a generator:)
Been chatting with my wife about the product, if we get a opportunity where we can set off for a long term journey we will definitely get ahold of you for pricing
Start adding stabil to your gas also. Use it in all small engines. Save yourself a lot of grief due to crappy gas.
Or run avgas if your not running it near a veg garden (leaded)
I run VP 94 small engine fuel or trufuel in my power equipment ..NO ETHANOL. PRICEY BUT WORTH IT NEVER ISSUES STARTING/RUNNING. You could run that after the propane for a few minutes.
Propane is hygroscopic. Will rust everything up. Gas with stabilizer is a good way to keep at least a little gas in it.
So you figured out what?
Thanks for the tip about propane and rusty carbs. Just got a dual fuel generator, be sure to run some gas though just to keep everything lubricated. 🛢💦
Good information, Thanks!
I would tell you to buy a lottery ticket after finding the jet in the grass, but there would be no point. You used up all your luck lol
I'm glad she's running 4 u.@ 1st I thought, uh oh no oil! So u got water in the carb due to
condensation? that daughter of urs is a sweety pie!
go to your local airport and purchase a couple of gallons of AVGAS for aircraft. Keep that fuel in generators when not being used. It will not go bad our accumulate moisture.
Who do you get that beast on the trailer rack!
After a bowl full of wheaties
@@WeCanExploreIt ...and a can of spinach!
Thought it would be opposite too alcohol they put in gas will draw water too although propane can be used as an refrigerant
I have a small generator that I only run on propane for 4-5yrs now and the gas tank is dry, with no rust. I only use this generator maybe once or twice a year.
I am assume you ran with gas before. Is that correct?
@@DLong-wp8su Nope, never run it with gas, the tank is still dry and new.
@@JamezTran Base on my research, it depends where you live (high humility climate may cause corrosion in the carburetor).
@@DLong-wp8su , I’m in Houston, where the humidity is high, but I only store the generator in my garage, keeping it away from water most of the time.
Just bought a champion 4500 invertor generator today. I was in a hurry and this was a last moment purchase. Had I know it was only electric start I wouldn’t have got it, but I am new to your channel and wanted to say thanks for the video. Subbed
Good to know, I assumed they had a backup pull rope. Does the starter battery recharge while the generator is running? If not I will stay away from that model. I know it would ALWAYS be dead when I needed it most:)
Got to love it. New favorite channel. More real footage is always better. From California.
Good to know will purge it when I buy mine
Propane sucks it only gives you half the wattage that degenerator makes just use fresh gas and after you're done using your generator turn the gas off and let it run until that carburetor is empty of gas then you don't have issues with bad gas in the carburetor
Maybe so BUT there are times when having Propane can be a LIFESAVER. THAT is why I bought a Dual Fuel Generator. If you've ever seen the LINES for Gasoline when a Hurricane is coming or there is an emergency.....you'd be HAPPY to have a propane generator versus NO Generator. PLUS--- EVER Try storing 25 gallons of EXPLOSIVE Gasoline in a shed with all the FUMES? It can be scary. YES Propane is EXPLOSIVE but much safer than transporting and storing multiple 5 gal cans of GASOLINE. Giving up a little power by using Propane becomes less of an issue over the safety factor.
What a little cutie you have there LOL. She warmed my heart. To bad about your generator.
Earnest, thanks! We got it working great so no worries. Have a good one!
Excellent video, your so awesome for your work.
If you treat the gas with stabil you will not ever have bad gas in your generator. Using good synthetic oil is key as well.
So, am I to understand "This Fluid" is the Sea Foam? Thank you for putting this video together. Looking at a Champion Dual Fuel myself. For use similar to what you are using it for.
I think he was referring to gasoline. He had only ever run it on propane.
D.
Buy some true fuel gasoline at Lowe’s. It’s non ethanol gas that does not break down. Good stuff
Thanks Barry!
At $20 plus a gallon.....yikes
Just google "ethanol-free gas stations near me" It will generally be premium 92/93 octane and will cost more, but nothing close to the price of TruFuel.
Thanks for the video! Good information!!!
thanks I didn't both point was good.nice to know thank you
Great video. Just bought the 10,000 dual fuel so will follow your advice.
Awesome video
Having parts left over when you put something together, I have done that before. Thanks for sharing the good and the bad. Mike
I may or may not have a drawer in my tool box with dashboard screws from freightliner Columbias from when I was a mechanic.
Thanks for the tip, I'm about to make a purchase and I'll be sure to run gas in it occasionally.
Propane generators are horrible. They suck in the cold weather because the orifices in the brass fuel delivery system constricts as soon as it gets cold.
I’ve been living 100% off grid for 3 years now and I would never buy another propane generator. When it gets cold and you need them most, they refuse to work.
Dual fuel is a good idea in theory, but in practice not so much. My Champion gasoline generators work flawlessly no matter what the conditions.
I’ve run my dual fuel generators in the summer without issue, just not reliable (on propane) whatsoever in the winter. I’ve never had any carb issues, likely because I always keep gas in my dual fuel Champ year round.