The problem with these kinda tier lists is they should be categorized. Like which is best/worst at RTA, Siege Offense/Defense, Arena Offense/Defense, Giants/Dragons/Necro/Tormentor/Punisher, etc. This can be confusing to some if tier lists will just be generalized like this. But I appreciate the effort.
It's funny how the bottom of the tier list for all 5 elements is dominated by all the most recent mons that came out (puppeteers, cookies, assassins, etc) while all the OG ones that came out with the game 8 to 9 years ago are still at the top
Just got my first Woosa today! I did draw an LD nat5- yep one, in 7 years… Shan. (Lt Chimera) and love him. I never get the newest stuff. I’m like a year late and the worst attribute on most summons. But verad was my first nat5 and I was sooo happy. Lol. Thanks for this! My current wish list is nephthys for LD - others are Leo, Gany, Jamire, Perna. So far my 9 yr nat5 options are junk, except Oliver, and I don’t RTA (sigh)
Got my first woosa this past weekend myself!! Got it from a 9 year scroll had the choice between him Laika and triton all new… glad I made the right choice!
I think the same as you, she is like a normal element han that can aoe def break, turn Cycle strip stunt or kill/steal buff, she is super strong for sure, and lets not forget her insane base spd, mine is 298 vio will
@@prosperojimenez9612 I know, rly wish I had one of her, but I don't think I can take her even if I do summon her from the 9 year event, cuz my comp is already too wind heavy and I need more water units, especially zibala (water puppeteer), cuz he's rly broken with my giana.
Seara offer a lot, You cant never go wrong 1st pick spd lead. Bomb comp sometimes clear tricky defense. But rta wise, ethna lot stronger, offer turn cycle that seara just got nerfed and can stun and deal damage like seara does, but, the introducing of oliver spd lead and utility offer more so that seara 1st pick is kinda rare today
@@misbahul9044 Yea, I still first pick her though, as she's the core of my Giana comp, and oliver doesn't offer enough dmg for me to pick him over her, even though he's better.
Ma dude! Playing to the audience! Thank you Bagel... oh, it's scaled by us noobs. Well, still awesome. My event is taunting me with zairos anf Momo. Hoping for Brandia or Verad if I can't make that solo r5 dream team.
Following your Light Demon comment: I use mine everywhere but r5 -GB12 - Tricaru and Lucifer -All Rift Beasts -AO with Leo, Miriam and Lushen -Guild Offense with Leo, Lushen -Dimensional Predator (he’s OP) -Tartarus -All Elemental Dungeons with tricaru, but Light (I use Tricaru + Drunken Master for that) -ToAH for some boss stages Really good unit imo PvE wise
Make your own tier list please for general overall game play units that work for everything should be A-S+ I don’t play to much RTA yet and only basic arena you know more than half the players voting im sure of it so your opinion would be more valuable
IMO the dark beast monk is so much better than people give him credit for, kinda like how bagel feels about his light one. I can bring mine into all areas of the game with good success
@@cheggiethegreat Unit isn't specific enough for one comp but some things that may compliment him are bruiser things like woosa, molly, feng yan, camilla, riley etc. Unfortunately he doesn't have a glaring usp that makes him insanely synergize with any unit and his base spd isn't high enough for a decent speed comp so it's more or less down to your preference
Rahul is quite strong in siege but I don’t use him in other content. I guess that’s why he is ranked in B. Mine is on Despair Will +175 SPD. He may use some buff in the balance patch.
Same, I use my Rahul significantly more than I use my other ld5, Seimei. For me his strip is super reliable, I run him on a crazy fast despair set for RTA and siege, and he works wonders.
I'd love if you did a tier list for different content - even if its just pvp and pve and not specific like dragons, giants, rta, etc - it think it would be really helpful
Lushen and Kaki : *exists.* Dark sky dancer : *shoots up to S tier.* Let's be real, dark sky dancer needs her own identity/trademark 3rd skill/passive as a Nat 5.
It could be cool if you clicked the icon and it drilled down into the votes to see the spread if could easily illustrate what you’re talking about. Something like powerbi could easily build something like that off you’re poll spreadsheet. Just a thought
Could you do a video for new/returning players best nat 5s? I played the game ages ago, lost my account, made a new one about a month ago, and so much has changed since then. Don’t know who to pick to progress the best
This is talking RTA/Arena/PvP meta, which is why Xiong Fei (Fire Panda Warrior) is so low, he's a Defense debuffer who's S3 relies on debuffs similarly to Kro/Brandia. But, he's useful in Rift Raid and Dimensional Hole as he's a Defense-type healer and debuffer. Brandia is only used in Earth Rift Dungeon because of her S3.
xf super underated for pvp. have used in c2 c3 rta as well as higher g1 siege content for atk comps. his s2 and s3 are super low cool downs and that cleans buff couple buffs ago made him a swiss army knife w the rev def break that makes people very hesitant about targeting em in rta . 6:39
Please do list of the best to build for each 3* and 4* monster class. Fire vs. Wind vs. Water. Like Clara is the best Pierret. I have multiple dups of many monsters and many attributes. I would like to pick one to full skill up.
I forgot to vote. For the fire, Rica is my favorite hands down. She changed my lofe in toa. Raki was my very first nat 5 around account level 30 8 and a half years ago. I haven't appreciated Leo or built hin yet. And I had 3 copies at one point before blessings and ancient crystals came out. Personally I rate Eladriel S/upper A. He and Jamkre are my most used wind. For Light, besides the Ifrit and Altair, I got Jager from a wish. I haven't built him yet. For Dark, I can't wait to finish building Kiki and Beelzebub to play with. My jaw dropped on both summons.
I just got Giana last night. I had 3 LD scrolls saved from the 9 year coin shop. Talk about luck. Most of the 9 year summoners are dupes for me, the only two new ones are a choice between the wind druid or water weaponmaster. I'm hoping for something better from the 3k, 4k, 5k spot. Also I just got Ckco a few days ago and Kiki a month or so ago. So I'm curious how Giana might pair with them if at all. Like fast and remove buffs for enemy team, than Coco ckmes in with the boom. Or maybe after Galleon.
Water slayer is so good. No runes, opponent has 800,000 of shield but low hp, water slayer hits (of course not braking the shield because he has no runes and the shield is of 800,000 hp), and then a lot of the enemy's hp gets destroyed, trough the shield, after water slayer doing no damage. Now add runes to the water slayer and think again about him (I mean, he also nerfs the opponent's damage proportional to destroyed hp...). Well, I forgot that most people don't have runes anyway. But he still works with no runes...
Hopefully I can get some help. 9 yr Trans scroll gave me 8 new nat 5s to choose from. Crazy but I dont know what to pick. I think Verad but unsure. Fire Mage, Verad, Arial, Seara, Fire Macaron Guard, Fire Art Master, Brandia and Ziross. I don't do PvP so this will be a PVE pick. Thanks for thoughts in advance.
I think this tier list needs to be redone with more specificity, obviously not all content, but rta/arena, dungeons/rifts, guild content should suffice because this list is wildly off depending on who you ask.
Yes, please keep rating Belial poorly, so that they maybe buff him. He is the only nat 5 I built a dupe of. He is so good, but if the community thinks he is bad, he might get a buff, and that would be nice.
I would guess that most of the people who voted have played the game for a long time. I still use sig in siege and a couple dungeons but I have so much stuff now he gets lost in the shuffle. He’s great, though…I voted S for him.
I had a fire team get soloed by a riley... and one of those fire units was fuckin perna... somebody actually put destroy runes on her and she just slowly drained me... she had to have had 2 very good quad rolled -dmg from fire artifacts tho bc my perna was hitting like a handful of rice, with def break and atk buff set up, my perna normally fucks up everything
Fire macaroon guard (Alice) is an amazingly underrated unit. Make her on swift fast and very high def and all the multi hitter will do zero damage. I pair her with Chandra for speed lead and he escorts her. Add a dd to finish it off
I have him. He's underwhelming for a nat 5 LD. His heal is too weak, unless you are glass cannon, but if he is glass cannon he just dies and the heal becomes "Meh". Just a cleanser that gives branding. Light cowgirl, a f2p unit can replace cadiz most places you'd use cadiz. I could use the f2p dark vampire lord in more places than cadiz.
@@0ldirtypanda964 yeah a buff would be great, but a reliable strip on s1 into brand decrease attk bar AND heal is more than enough. If you put damage on him the heal can be decent
@@0ldirtypanda964 I do havé to agree though. He was one of my most wanted ld5 and I was excited when I got him. Told myself I’ll use him everywhere and I barely use him tbh
@@voidywoidy2719 I was going to reply, but it seems you had a rebuttal, but then kinda agreed on the comment after lol. Very underwhelming Nat 5 LD who is slightly better than Loren, a nat 3 LD. He has branding? Loren has def break. He has cleanse on S1-2? She has cleanse on S2. He has ATB red. She has atb red. YA BUT HE HEALS. Most of the time, not really. Cadiz in a nutshell ^ replaceable by Loren
I have both Talisman and Light Eivor. I use Talisman in so much more content than Eivor.... which isn't saying much since I don't use her (or should I say, I can't use her)... Her kit is just missing something, and it really shows. Com2us released her with 900 base attack but her multipliers hit like a wet noodle. So they realized that and gave her a more all around stat build that still hits like a wet noodle. If enemy is on immunity, she is useless no matter how much she turn cycles. Here's hoping for a better buff.
So I have the fire and wind shadow caster, wind weapon master, fire valk and water pudding master in the event. Should I keep going since we have a lot of time? I can’t even do nb 12 yet but I can do Gb12 and sf10, db12 with dot team as well but it’s not 100% am I like early to mid? Also beat toah with a dot team. Killed the toah boss with a slow ass team ;-;
@@Sirr304 it also doesn't really matter that you're early game lol. Play at the pace you want to play it. I've been playing for 8 years, and I've only finished g1 in rta.
Ditto. I don’t RTA at all. I like challenges but not memorizing every stat of every mon to get rolled by a pay to player, and so my growth has been very slow. I just got my first Woosa. (Had to pass on Juno to get him tho) Very excited about that one.
Can someone help me? I really don't know who to pick from the 5 star event. I have unlocked water totemist, fire ezio, water dragon knight and water weapon master. I'm afraid of forgetting about the game again for a month, so thats why I want to decide already. I already have things like verad, zaiross, wind totemist, water and wind polar queen, fire mage. I have a lot but at the moment I can't b12 dragons yet and I dont want to work on a tricaru team yet because I cant seem to get enough defense from rifts. I do have the tricaru made and lvl 40 though. I have so many good mons on my account but I think I'm just bad at the game. A real 5 star tier list would help me a lot. Is this tier list in the video viable?
I also don't care about the community. I want a bagel tier list explaining why and were they can be used. Like some of this I don't like, doesn't tell me anything..
Man, i havent played SR in like 7 years, at the time, Leo was one of the worst Nat 5, while Camille was one of the best. I was so upset when my first Nat 5 was Leo
Hey guys! I'm newish and have not cleared PVE yet (no stable b12 teams, but getting there for dragons 12!), would like some advice on what I should pick: - Fire Phoenix - Fire Bayek - Wind Demon - Wind Lightning Emperor - Water Pioneer - Water Arts Master - Wind Weapon Master - Fire Druid - Wind Dragon Right now I'm working on a dots team (just 2A's Sath, Tatu, grabbed Gina and Thrain from scrolls, not 2A yet, and farming Homunculus). I can't decide and don't want to regret my choice because of lack of insight. Please help!
@@nugget7865 so currently for you, I would say woosa (water pioneer) really cant go wrong. He is pretty strong for pve, being a good unit for dragons, he is also really good in guild lab and dimensional hole, as well as being pretty good for pvp. so I would definitely recommend him. That being said, odin, perna, and domonic are all good choices. Odin is good for guild siege, perna is also good for siege and arena, and domonic is just good for pvp in general. That being said woosa is probably the most flexible
Last month I gave up Toa Hell againts the two dark druids. I discoverd his skill. Can someone tell me how this unit is not top tiers in every content ?
Wdym? Chow should be lower imo, he always was kinda a worse version of Camilla and Juno and his recent rework actually made him even weaker (Chow was literally one of my first nat 5s and my favourite for a long time but he just fell off unfurtunately)
Woosa can be replaced we have alot shield units nowadays moore has speed lead without that he would be almost like ken global speed lead is great moore is more of a rta unit but ppl use him in arena defs and guildcontent
You probably need to put up something for these tier lists for the voting that says something like vote for general usefulness in the game, not just RTA. Otherwise yeah people are going to just vote for RTA.
Hello, I'm not asking this, I just wanted a professional opinion from a player, I left the game years ago for reasons of not having a mobile phone to play it and so on. Thanks for the response, success!!
Water slayer being put in the same tier as water demon and sigmarus is a huge insult because he's so useful. Water battle angel should br S or SS tier.
SS and SSS tier are such a stupid system when D and F are not used or ignored. Basically move all these units down 2 tiers and you get closer to the proper list.
Water Bison in B tier? Is this a joke? He counters arena rush hour defenses. Light pudding in A-tier is fair, she is niche. I use her in my arena defense for C3/G1, and she is amazing with Iunu (revives him then resets his cooldown) and Theomars or any unit that needs cooldown reset/is fragile.
considering kiki beats neph 10/10 times she should probably be reclassed XD i feel like bella is ranked on obabos use of her, she needs a buff for her base stats. she's only good with super premium runes on super premium arts with good additional damage rolls....
Can we just get your tier list I really don't care what the community thinks too many variables just my opinion don't @ me
Agree to me this is useless cuz everyone is ranking based on different metrics
True, different opinions of different players so it won't really fit
Agreed
Agreed. We love all your videos. But we wanna see YOUR list. ☺️
This!
The problem with these kinda tier lists is they should be categorized. Like which is best/worst at RTA, Siege Offense/Defense, Arena Offense/Defense, Giants/Dragons/Necro/Tormentor/Punisher, etc. This can be confusing to some if tier lists will just be generalized like this. But I appreciate the effort.
this lists are almost always focused in rta unfortunately
I hope you can make your own tier list so that we can compare with the community's tier list. Thanks :)
It's funny how the bottom of the tier list for all 5 elements is dominated by all the most recent mons that came out (puppeteers, cookies, assassins, etc) while all the OG ones that came out with the game 8 to 9 years ago are still at the top
Just got my first Woosa today! I did draw an LD nat5- yep one, in 7 years… Shan. (Lt Chimera) and love him. I never get the newest stuff. I’m like a year late and the worst attribute on most summons. But verad was my first nat5 and I was sooo happy. Lol. Thanks for this! My current wish list is nephthys for LD - others are Leo, Gany, Jamire, Perna. So far my 9 yr nat5 options are junk, except Oliver, and I don’t RTA (sigh)
Got my first woosa this past weekend myself!! Got it from a 9 year scroll had the choice between him Laika and triton all new… glad I made the right choice!
Gzzz
Feel like ethna should be ss at least, that unit is super strong, definitely a lot stronger than seara, who is also S tier.
I think the same as you, she is like a normal element han that can aoe def break, turn Cycle strip stunt or kill/steal buff, she is super strong for sure, and lets not forget her insane base spd, mine is 298 vio will
@@prosperojimenez9612 I know, rly wish I had one of her, but I don't think I can take her even if I do summon her from the 9 year event, cuz my comp is already too wind heavy and I need more water units, especially zibala (water puppeteer), cuz he's rly broken with my giana.
Seara offer a lot, You cant never go wrong 1st pick spd lead. Bomb comp sometimes clear tricky defense.
But rta wise, ethna lot stronger, offer turn cycle that seara just got nerfed and can stun and deal damage like seara does, but, the introducing of oliver spd lead and utility offer more so that seara 1st pick is kinda rare today
@@misbahul9044 Yea, I still first pick her though, as she's the core of my Giana comp, and oliver doesn't offer enough dmg for me to pick him over her, even though he's better.
+1
Ma dude! Playing to the audience! Thank you Bagel... oh, it's scaled by us noobs. Well, still awesome. My event is taunting me with zairos anf Momo. Hoping for Brandia or Verad if I can't make that solo r5 dream team.
Early!!! Thank you I needed this I'm new and have been watching the beginner guide you made!
Hey man, enjoy your content and I am liking the video to support you in what you do. Keep it up.
Following your Light Demon comment:
I use mine everywhere but r5
-GB12 - Tricaru and Lucifer
-All Rift Beasts
-AO with Leo, Miriam and Lushen
-Guild Offense with Leo, Lushen
-Dimensional Predator (he’s OP)
-Tartarus
-All Elemental Dungeons with tricaru, but Light (I use Tricaru + Drunken Master for that)
-ToAH for some boss stages
Really good unit imo PvE wise
Tbh, he's the best for pve like he reduce pve difficulty so much
WOW - I was looking for this video yesterday morning LEWL! Awesome - ty
You should do weighted versions of these lists, where a unit can be pushed out of their highest voted tier with enough votes an a different tier
Make your own tier list please for general overall game play units that work for everything should be A-S+ I don’t play to much RTA yet and only basic arena you know more than half the players voting im sure of it so your opinion would be more valuable
Agreed
Thx bagel! It’s been years since I played but ofc had to come to you cause ur still the best ❤
Amber and Ariel beside Water Eivor is shocking
true, Water Eivor (if she is runed well) deserves A tier, but Amber deserves SS tier easily
IMO the dark beast monk is so much better than people give him credit for, kinda like how bagel feels about his light one. I can bring mine into all areas of the game with good success
I have one but I cannot find a comp for him, can you give me some ideas?
@@cheggiethegreat Unit isn't specific enough for one comp but some things that may compliment him are bruiser things like woosa, molly, feng yan, camilla, riley etc. Unfortunately he doesn't have a glaring usp that makes him insanely synergize with any unit and his base spd isn't high enough for a decent speed comp so it's more or less down to your preference
Rahul is one big dog poop.
Rahul is quite strong in siege but I don’t use him in other content. I guess that’s why he is ranked in B. Mine is on Despair Will +175 SPD. He may use some buff in the balance patch.
Same, I use my Rahul significantly more than I use my other ld5, Seimei. For me his strip is super reliable, I run him on a crazy fast despair set for RTA and siege, and he works wonders.
I'd love if you did a tier list for different content - even if its just pvp and pve and not specific like dragons, giants, rta, etc - it think it would be really helpful
Damn, I missed the poll 😭 couldn't you give at least a day for people to do it?
Lushen and Kaki : *exists.*
Dark sky dancer : *shoots up to S tier.*
Let's be real, dark sky dancer needs her own identity/trademark 3rd skill/passive as a Nat 5.
Oh! Bagel, bagel sir. Please to further assist in the event... What do you think of compiling a L/D 3 (non 2a) tier list? 🙃😃😁
waited so long for this :D thx jubi
Do your own tier list. That's would be good
Zima The fire puppeteer: Guardian of my Monster Storage
After playing for 8 years, I finally got an LD5 and it was light ezio. SERIOUSLY, I didn't even have the rate up ticked
😭 Time to quit
You’re the goat for this!
Hi Jubi Can you make ASSASSINS CREED Tier List which that worth for free skill up Even please ?
Was waiting for this 🥰
Nat 1 tier list 🔥🔥🗣🗣
It could be cool if you clicked the icon and it drilled down into the votes to see the spread if could easily illustrate what you’re talking about. Something like powerbi could easily build something like that off you’re poll spreadsheet. Just a thought
Could you do a video for new/returning players best nat 5s? I played the game ages ago, lost my account, made a new one about a month ago, and so much has changed since then. Don’t know who to pick to progress the best
This is talking RTA/Arena/PvP meta, which is why Xiong Fei (Fire Panda Warrior) is so low, he's a Defense debuffer who's S3 relies on debuffs similarly to Kro/Brandia. But, he's useful in Rift Raid and Dimensional Hole as he's a Defense-type healer and debuffer. Brandia is only used in Earth Rift Dungeon because of her S3.
xf super underated for pvp. have used in c2 c3 rta as well as higher g1 siege content for atk comps. his s2 and s3 are super low cool downs and that cleans buff couple buffs ago made him a swiss army knife w the rev def break that makes people very hesitant about targeting em in rta . 6:39
Very very helpful!!! But it would be great if you make your own tier list
Please do list of the best to build for each 3* and 4* monster class. Fire vs. Wind vs. Water. Like Clara is the best Pierret. I have multiple dups of many monsters and many attributes. I would like to pick one to full skill up.
hello brother. I have a question which do you suggest the valkyrie of fire or oliver?
I wonder, which dragon is best for PvE? Are Light and Dark dragon good for a starter account? Or is Water/Fire dragon best?
Would prefer to see a tier list based on your advice!
I forgot to vote. For the fire, Rica is my favorite hands down. She changed my lofe in toa. Raki was my very first nat 5 around account level 30 8 and a half years ago.
I haven't appreciated Leo or built hin yet. And I had 3 copies at one point before blessings and ancient crystals came out.
Personally I rate Eladriel S/upper A. He and Jamkre are my most used wind.
For Light, besides the Ifrit and Altair, I got Jager from a wish. I haven't built him yet.
For Dark, I can't wait to finish building Kiki and Beelzebub to play with. My jaw dropped on both summons.
I just got Giana last night. I had 3 LD scrolls saved from the 9 year coin shop. Talk about luck. Most of the 9 year summoners are dupes for me, the only two new ones are a choice between the wind druid or water weaponmaster. I'm hoping for something better from the 3k, 4k, 5k spot.
Also I just got Ckco a few days ago and Kiki a month or so ago. So I'm curious how Giana might pair with them if at all. Like fast and remove buffs for enemy team, than Coco ckmes in with the boom. Or maybe after Galleon.
Leta goooooo i love tierlist everytime there is a patch or new mons do a tier lol
so if you had to choose. would you choose water battle angel or wind weapon master?
Water slayer is so good. No runes, opponent has 800,000 of shield but low hp, water slayer hits (of course not braking the shield because he has no runes and the shield is of 800,000 hp), and then a lot of the enemy's hp gets destroyed, trough the shield, after water slayer doing no damage.
Now add runes to the water slayer and think again about him (I mean, he also nerfs the opponent's damage proportional to destroyed hp...).
Well, I forgot that most people don't have runes anyway. But he still works with no runes...
I like destroying hp despite the enemy having invincibility buff active
Yeah I use water slayer every day and even have a dupe built that I use too.
I have Artamiel, Light MK, Light Panda and Light Slayer. Glad they're on top of the list.
I have artamiel he def not S tier lol.
Is it worth building 2 wind monkeys or use the dupe for blessing?
This came at a great time. Just pulled Jager. First LD 5. (And yes this comment was also meant to tell people I pulled a LD 5. Sue me lol)
Nah bro happy for you 👏
Hopefully I can get some help. 9 yr Trans scroll gave me 8 new nat 5s to choose from. Crazy but I dont know what to pick. I think Verad but unsure. Fire Mage, Verad, Arial, Seara, Fire Macaron Guard, Fire Art Master, Brandia and Ziross. I don't do PvP so this will be a PVE pick. Thanks for thoughts in advance.
I would pick Verad. Great cc and freeze
when he said he doesn't get crazy about Molong but he gets crazy about "alicia" is when I realized Bagel still doesn't know how to RTA..
I think this tier list needs to be redone with more specificity, obviously not all content, but rta/arena, dungeons/rifts, guild content should suffice because this list is wildly off depending on who you ask.
Yes, please keep rating Belial poorly, so that they maybe buff him.
He is the only nat 5 I built a dupe of. He is so good, but if the community thinks he is bad, he might get a buff, and that would be nice.
He's bad :v
but looks cool, that's important
I need help to choose my nat 5 anniv. I have han. `who should i pair him up with vannesa, masha, carlos, juno or zibala?
sigmarus at B tier is crazy
I would guess that most of the people who voted have played the game for a long time. I still use sig in siege and a couple dungeons but I have so much stuff now he gets lost in the shuffle. He’s great, though…I voted S for him.
True,should be c
@@Arenas95 you're trolling
05:28 Saying like Riley shouldn't be on SSS is crazy.
I had a fire team get soloed by a riley... and one of those fire units was fuckin perna... somebody actually put destroy runes on her and she just slowly drained me... she had to have had 2 very good quad rolled -dmg from fire artifacts tho bc my perna was hitting like a handful of rice, with def break and atk buff set up, my perna normally fucks up everything
Maybe the tier list is the friends we made along the way
Like number 1000
Just got dark druid a few minutes ago, is he really s tier?
My LD5s are Tian Lang, Nephtys, Jackson, Jager, Quitien Dashing. Sitting pretty despite the unneeded Nephtys buff. They did her and ongyouki wrong.
How is Light Macaron Guard in same tier as Wind and Fire Macarons?
Fire macaroon guard (Alice) is an amazingly underrated unit. Make her on swift fast and very high def and all the multi hitter will do zero damage. I pair her with Chandra for speed lead and he escorts her. Add a dd to finish it off
Maybe i'm your victim in this one 😂
I want to cry about this mons
Been using her,some mons seem to break through just fine.
She mitigates 3x her def. I have her on 2000 def. Multi hitters normally won’t do much more than that
As a Cadiz owner I’m surprised to see him so high. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s great. But I thought others didn’t think so as much
I have him. He's underwhelming for a nat 5 LD. His heal is too weak, unless you are glass cannon, but if he is glass cannon he just dies and the heal becomes "Meh". Just a cleanser that gives branding. Light cowgirl, a f2p unit can replace cadiz most places you'd use cadiz. I could use the f2p dark vampire lord in more places than cadiz.
@@0ldirtypanda964 yeah a buff would be great, but a reliable strip on s1 into brand decrease attk bar AND heal is more than enough. If you put damage on him the heal can be decent
@@0ldirtypanda964 I do havé to agree though. He was one of my most wanted ld5 and I was excited when I got him. Told myself I’ll use him everywhere and I barely use him tbh
@@voidywoidy2719 I was going to reply, but it seems you had a rebuttal, but then kinda agreed on the comment after lol.
Very underwhelming Nat 5 LD who is slightly better than Loren, a nat 3 LD. He has branding? Loren has def break. He has cleanse on S1-2? She has cleanse on S2. He has ATB red. She has atb red. YA BUT HE HEALS. Most of the time, not really.
Cadiz in a nutshell ^ replaceable by Loren
@@0ldirtypanda964 lol I love you
I have both Talisman and Light Eivor. I use Talisman in so much more content than Eivor.... which isn't saying much since I don't use her (or should I say, I can't use her)... Her kit is just missing something, and it really shows. Com2us released her with 900 base attack but her multipliers hit like a wet noodle. So they realized that and gave her a more all around stat build that still hits like a wet noodle. If enemy is on immunity, she is useless no matter how much she turn cycles. Here's hoping for a better buff.
why are there fusion in there ? you cannot get these in the event or ?
So I have the fire and wind shadow caster, wind weapon master, fire valk and water pudding master in the event. Should I keep going since we have a lot of time? I can’t even do nb 12 yet but I can do Gb12 and sf10, db12 with dot team as well but it’s not 100% am I like early to mid? Also beat toah with a dot team. Killed the toah boss with a slow ass team ;-;
Wait till the end if the event. Also, you are still EARLY game lol. C1 finish in rta I'd count you as mid game.
@@remington14good to know ;-;
@@Sirr304 it also doesn't really matter that you're early game lol. Play at the pace you want to play it. I've been playing for 8 years, and I've only finished g1 in rta.
Ditto. I don’t RTA at all. I like challenges but not memorizing every stat of every mon to get rolled by a pay to player, and so my growth has been very slow. I just got my first Woosa. (Had to pass on Juno to get him tho) Very excited about that one.
Woosa was my first one but I had to wait and see the rest before I grab him xD.
Can someone help me? I really don't know who to pick from the 5 star event. I have unlocked water totemist, fire ezio, water dragon knight and water weapon master.
I'm afraid of forgetting about the game again for a month, so thats why I want to decide already.
I already have things like verad, zaiross, wind totemist, water and wind polar queen, fire mage. I have a lot but at the moment I can't b12 dragons yet and I dont want to work on a tricaru team yet because I cant seem to get enough defense from rifts. I do have the tricaru made and lvl 40 though.
I have so many good mons on my account but I think I'm just bad at the game.
A real 5 star tier list would help me a lot. Is this tier list in the video viable?
I also don't care about the community. I want a bagel tier list explaining why and were they can be used. Like some of this I don't like, doesn't tell me anything..
Hey I recently got dark mermaid and can’t find a guide for comps to make with her. Can some of you guys please give suggestions 😅
Man, i havent played SR in like 7 years, at the time, Leo was one of the worst Nat 5, while Camille was one of the best. I was so upset when my first Nat 5 was Leo
Shizuka is really good in dragon B10 auto team. I have tried everything and I can only do it when I run Verde, Bella, Vero, Megan and Shizuka.
Hey guys! I'm newish and have not cleared PVE yet (no stable b12 teams, but getting there for dragons 12!), would like some advice on what I should pick:
- Fire Phoenix
- Fire Bayek
- Wind Demon
- Wind Lightning Emperor
- Water Pioneer
- Water Arts Master
- Wind Weapon Master
- Fire Druid
- Wind Dragon
Right now I'm working on a dots team (just 2A's Sath, Tatu, grabbed Gina and Thrain from scrolls, not 2A yet, and farming Homunculus). I can't decide and don't want to regret my choice because of lack of insight. Please help!
@@JABK412 I saw that it was S tier in the video. It says it's more of a PVP unit on it's webpage, is that the case?
@@nugget7865 so currently for you, I would say woosa (water pioneer) really cant go wrong. He is pretty strong for pve, being a good unit for dragons, he is also really good in guild lab and dimensional hole, as well as being pretty good for pvp. so I would definitely recommend him. That being said, odin, perna, and domonic are all good choices. Odin is good for guild siege, perna is also good for siege and arena, and domonic is just good for pvp in general. That being said woosa is probably the most flexible
@@ryanhoang1123 Thanks guys, after asking around in game as well it seems like it's pretty one sided, so I picked my good water boi!!
I have a woonsa, but I also have a tiana. Is there any reason that I should use my woonsa instead, I don’t understand why it’s SS tier.
tiana is arena and woosa is everywhere else and also arena
Last month I gave up Toa Hell againts the two dark druids. I discoverd his skill. Can someone tell me how this unit is not top tiers in every content ?
Chow, Minato and Shi Hou also deserve a rank higher
Wdym? Chow should be lower imo, he always was kinda a worse version of Camilla and Juno and his recent rework actually made him even weaker (Chow was literally one of my first nat 5s and my favourite for a long time but he just fell off unfurtunately)
jaara being in A tier is a crime
can you make nat-5 tier list for PVE? thanks so much
Wind onmyouji is S? Honestly i have her but never used
Because last time it was awful before buff 🤔
Shes op in rta super ez cycle and strip karma deff break
Can't believe i have a lot of the S tiers and above as an f2p according to these lists, and my only LD5 is considered SS
Borgnine helps destroy all fat defences he must be hier.
Ritesh is my newest nat5 and i love him , i dunno how he is rated so low why no love for ritesh (wind beast monk) is very fun with fire slayer.
I would say most of the participants is fighter highest are conq 2. Shizuka is not sss anymore. And fire MK is beyond SSS now. Amber is SSS
For overall content which would be more useful? Woosa or Moore?
Woosa can be replaced we have alot shield units nowadays moore has speed lead without that he would be almost like ken global speed lead is great moore is more of a rta unit but ppl use him in arena defs and guildcontent
Thanks for the input. Started the game last month, so still trying to figure things out.
@@artitect If you are new I would pick woosa he helps more in earlygame also later but moore is more for later game rta
You probably need to put up something for these tier lists for the voting that says something like vote for general usefulness in the game, not just RTA. Otherwise yeah people are going to just vote for RTA.
I got the Water Slayer today - people Congratulated me. Is he that bad? B Tier?
hell yea, finally
Hello, I'm not asking this, I just wanted a professional opinion from a player, I left the game years ago for reasons of not having a mobile phone to play it and so on. Thanks for the response, success!!
Crazy to see ld5 owners putting their own ld5 in C tier and lower.. I wonder why lol
Isn't there quite a few missed off?
7 years playing and my only ld 5 is dark beast monk. I hate this game but definitely agree with his placement
wind puppetiere any good?
Water slayer being put in the same tier as water demon and sigmarus is a huge insult because he's so useful. Water battle angel should br S or SS tier.
SS and SSS tier are such a stupid system when D and F are not used or ignored. Basically move all these units down 2 tiers and you get closer to the proper list.
Dark Kassandra not being S tier? Dam she’s def better then Peter
Exactly. I think she is quite good with the speed lead + atk buff + ignore def.
Tbh a nat 5 list should probably be skewed towards rta. Personally I don’t really look for nat 5s to help me with over content anyways.
Lets GOOOOO!
Dark Bayek so much underrated..
Skip to 11:30 to see full list
im having so much fomo feelings right now but i dont even play summoners war anymore lol.
Water Bison in B tier? Is this a joke? He counters arena rush hour defenses. Light pudding in A-tier is fair, she is niche. I use her in my arena defense for C3/G1, and she is amazing with Iunu (revives him then resets his cooldown) and Theomars or any unit that needs cooldown reset/is fragile.
considering kiki beats neph 10/10 times she should probably be reclassed XD
i feel like bella is ranked on obabos use of her, she needs a buff for her base stats. she's only good with super premium runes on super premium arts with good additional damage rolls....
tbh i think u should a Version of this based on your opinion.
just make a video where u move stuff around where u think they should go.
PvP and PvE separate tierlist when🙃
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