What Not To Do To Your Winter Honeybees
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- What Not To Do To Your Winter Honeybees is a beekeeping video explaining what to do, and not to do to your bee hive through the winter. Be patient, and leave them alone till its warm enough in spring to go through your bee hive.
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2 frame nuc measurments.
Bottom board is 5"x 21"
Sides 10 1/4 x 19 3/4"
Front 3 1/2" x 8 3/4"
Back 3 1/2" x 9 1/2.......
5 frame nuc measurments.
Bottom board is 9"x 21"
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Front 7 1/2" x 8 3/4"
Back 7 1/2" x 9 1/2.........
Top feeder box
Bottom 10 1/2" x 20"
Sides. 3 1/2" x 20"
Ends. 3 1/2" x 12"......
All of these measurements are based on assembling with 3/4" material such as Advantech...
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Cheap stethoscope is what I use to listen to hives in question. I use screened bottom boards and can tell just by looking at it, the activity goring on. Nicely done. Have 6 inches of snow now with mixed with sleet in SE Nebraska
This is my 2nd year as a rookie beekeeper and I made these mistakes you speak of and to remedy my anxiousness of wanting to know the status of my hives, I inserted a thermocouple in each hive to allow me to know what the temperature is inside the hive. No disturbing the bees other than a thin wire in the center of the top box that they don't seem to mind. Works great and you can kind of gauge where the cluster is by fluctuating temperature readings. Middle of Iowa here and haven't been in hives since 1st week of October.
Amazing Talent to understand the Bee World as you do. Love to watch each lesson you find the time to share with us.
Thanks so much!!!
Kind of interesting to hear this side about not going in the hive after they close it up. Some beekeeping sites advocate going in in January or February to check on honey stores and emergency feed. This sounds like a good idea. Put the sugar in early and stay away. I used to have hives and remember going in them in January and wondering why they were dead in April. I dont think I was the total cause of their demise but I probably didn't help. Now I build hives to sell cause of my bad hip and arthritis. Good advice David
You can tell how much honey is in the hive by slowly lifting up the back end of the hive, you will learn by doing this to see how heavy a hive is that has plenty of honey.
There is a seminar that describes his experiment using 100 colonies in a very harsh winter. He removed the queens from 50 colonies to observe the differences throughout winter. The 50 queenless colonies got dysentery. His conclusion was that the queen-right colonies avoided dysentery only because there were eggs to feed in the long periods of freezing weather without cleansing flights. The queen DOES lay eggs in the worst of winter weather, most beekeepers simply never get to inspect the hives to observe it. Feeding the eggs from their own gut contents in these conditions is the only way to expel the proteins from the workers bodies and not poop all over themselves. The eggs themselves may or may not be viable, that was not determined from the experiment.
Queenless colonies have the physical capability of surviving all winter.....IF they have regular clensing flights. The fact that the queen is vital for winter survival in extreme winters and dysentery is the cause of death when she is missing shows how important a few eggs are for the colony when they need to go poop.
Agree that a queenless colony is viable all winter. Hear all the time about folks that think their colony is queenless in October and want to combine. I say let them ride. If truly queenless, use for early splits but most often there will be a laying queen in there come spring.
I made top covers that are feeder shims so the bees only have one seam to propylize and I have an insulated lid and I drilled a hole for my rapid round to fit exactly in the hole so I can feed all winter long if I have to and it doesn’t disturb the bees at all , I swear by a feeder shim top cover and rapid round, it’s the best all around set up and the bees stay safe all winter and they won’t get cold or hungry and the set up works well all year round, im actually making some insulating telescopic lids with insulation and feeder shim tops as I type this , im waiting for my glue to dry on the last one 😀
Hey David,
Thanks for the video. The goldenrod had been done here in the chattanooga area for several weeks, but it was absolutely beautiful on the mountain where I live. It looked like a golden carpet in many of the fields up here.
The girls were out flying today. I think it was in the 50's or low 60's - Nice to see you back David
Minnesota, our queens will stop laying. Start up is in March to April depending on our first pussywillow blooms. During the Fall/Spring on a warmer day the bees loosen their cluster, great time to hit the mites with Oxalic acid! A good example, Wednesday the 9th will be 45 here. Time for a "mite happy death" fogging.
We always lay sugar bricks (on feeder space screenboard) under our burlap quilt boards. AND you can open the top of the hive with that rig. Lift the lid, move the wadded burlap and look down through the inner cover hole. If you see the sugar blocks you're good. Provided you did your heavy feeding and mite control through August to November..
So how much honey stores are in your hives? Tip them just a bit. We use double supers and each box should weigh in at about 80 pounds, total 160. If they tip easy, you're in trouble.
Hope this helps. 8 years a 30 below northern beekeeper.
Northwestern PA here, goldenrod has been done for over a month now. Girls were still bringing in witch hazel pollen until recently
Up here in the North, I use a rapid round in an insulated medium super, and also a full insulated cover.We had a week of 60s after our first snow, and my hives took 5 gal of 2:1 from a bucket feeder...and today it was 63°. Back to the freezer now though. I enjoy your common sense approach!
Greetings from Spring, Texas. I am going to start bee keeping in the Spring and will need a lot of help. A lot to learn.
My bees haven't propolized my inner lid for a long time. I've opened my hive a couple of times to feed the bees, and haven't had any issues. If you don't think you're Bees need any feed, then leave them alone. However not checking on them at all throughout the winter is a good way to find a dead Hive in the spring
I have used these feeders for probably four five years now. I have to agree with David these are probably one of the most reliable feeders I've ever tried. I do still use newspaper and sugar but as soon as I can afford to buy more those will go to the Wayside.
I live in eastern Kentucky (on the WV line) on my family farm. I’m going to start with bees next spring. Your channel has been my number 1 channel to watch and I have learned so much from you. Thank you very much for your content!
Thanks so much I appreciate that.
Today is November 21st and its 83 degrees here in southeast Ga. most of the Golden Rod has went to seed. Just came in from Cutting grass. Lost one weak hive from robbing 2 weeks ago but the hive I have is doing well. It is a Horizontal Hive that I built. Last week doing a Inspection I had 3 deep frames full of brood with 3 frames of honey and then another frame of partial Brood and a Cluster on drone brood around 3 inch Diameter. Still have drone Bees on some of the frames.18 frames deep and Medium along with a in hive feeder with 2 to 1 sugar water. 2 frames had empty comb but the rest had Honey and or pollen plus the frames with brood. Plan on making a sugar cake on a deep frame between hardware cloth and place it next to the brood frames. Late December , Jan and Feb my get cold for a few days but by Feb the Blueberries are in Bloom. I guess I will see how well the Bees over winter in the Horizontal Box. Right now they are all in my Box of Ultra Bee Pollen Sub.
I use on the top a 2inch spacer , remove inner cover, stack sugar bricks made in 9" pie pans with infused pollen patties, then use gorilla tape around spacer and inner cover on top.
Also forgot to say , in the top of Tele-cover I use 2" thick Dow cavitymate dense insulation board it has I think R-12, I put on cover , then set a cinder-block on top and tape that also. I've not had a problem with condensation yet. But I'm build colony's from a single farel hive from 100 yr. old tree, started 3 yrs. ago, I have 8 of them now. I bought bee's for 5 yrs. before, dead every winter, so changed game plan
We had 60 here at the Tonganoxie Split Apiary, I added sugar mounds today and we are trying to overwinter two single brood hives. We will see. I added bee cozies since we get cold here often. I have do design a wrap for the singles though. Oh I noticed they are actually bringing in a small amount of pollen still.i used two paper towels and added sugar piles on top of them.
Hi David, here in southeast texas theres still goldenrod. Some bloomed and has dried up..some is just beginning to bloom. Loved the video!
Yep, I wont open my Winter shed till end of March first part of April. I made sure my singles where at 90+ pounds and that will get them through the winter
Hello just did a hive inspection. California is a little different they are going out for pollen and nectar. And when the sun and weather permit🍯😎 nice video,info 🇺🇸🇺🇸🛋
I wish I watched this video first. First year bee keeper here in western NC and I've been opening my hive at least once a week checking on em and now I don't have any bees in either hive. Not a lot of dead bees in there so I'm thinking they've left.
Been in my hives in florida 👍 over winter
Here in kentucky things are near an end but my wildflowers are still kicking still blooming
This was very informative and accessible; thank you for sharing with us.
In Hot Springs AR, the golden rod is just now dying off. We have had a few frosts here but the G-Rod is hanging around and the bees are still bringing it in. Started to pollen feed today because we are going to be dropping down into the 20s over the next few nights. Gave the girls some patties and an open feeder so they should be good for awhile.
Middle of October here in northern Idaho, we got snow and it went down to about 10 degrees. Haven't had flowers for about a month and a half. Hopefully my bees survive the winter
Haven’t looked at my bees since the beginning of August here in northern Iowa. I’ll throw some sugar on top end of January just in case but they got it sealed up tight.
I didn't recognize you with long sleeves David.. LOL.. I bet you had on shoes to... I'm shocked. Good to see you up and about. Feel better my friend.
Lol thanks Nena. You know I'm definitely not feeling good if I'm not wearing tanktop shorts and sandals.
@@davidhaught84 I could tell rights off. I've seen you maker videos in a tank top, sandlels and shorts in much cooler whether than were having today... But... It is getting colder by then day. Stay safe.
I’m in New Jersey, yesterday was in the high 60s, they were bringing in full baskets- mustard brown colored, not sure what they are on! Last week was in the 20s-30s!
Thanks for your work buddy. We have a few colonies here in northeast Alabama. Last winter I tried casing the outside of our hives with 3/4” thick insulated foam board secured with the smaller rolls of plastic wrap usually used for packaging. It seemed to have worked well and it stayed on the boxes all winter. I know we don’t have that bad of winters here but I think that if the insulation keeps the box a few degrees warmer throughout the winter then the colony can possibly move around to get to there food stores better. The winter of 2018 we had some moisture issues on the underside of the inner cover so we built and used some hive extenders with room for feeders last winter also to help with ventilation. The extender only had a small hole in the top of the front and back for a small amount of flow through so if the bees need to and if they have the ability they can govern the flow with propolis as they see fit. I have seen videos that warn about moisture and now is the time to plan ahead.
Been doing bees since 1976 we would just put a small twig or nail under the corner of the lid to let tho moisture out. Lived in the San Joaquin Valley with lots of tule fog during the winter.
Here on the Oregon coast we still have daisys yet,its been getting cold here .I hope we jave a mild winter this year.
thank you for sharing these winter tips i am still new to bees
Thanks! Always good reliable info!!
nice vidio,greetings of friendship
Lol.. and then 10 days later on Dec 1st, the SouthEast had a WILD winter where almost every day for 6 weeks was frigid under 35 degrees. And the late winter deep freeze destroyed then the queen mating window, setting the season back. #MustBe2020
I'm in SW Ohio. On days that the bees are flying now I am seeing a few returning with pollen. Not a lot and it's probably not good quality pollen but they are finding it somewhere. I'm not sure if it's from goldenrod or what it is. The girls are very resourceful.
As of November 20th in the Chicago area bees were bringing in three types of pollen based on the color I was saying. And we have had several hard Frost
What is the latest in the year that you can get into the hive? What kind of feed should I put in the hive for a 4 month of snow Winter? How much? And if we put a sugar cake in for Winter how do they get water while everything is frozen for four months?
Hey Dave I live in the lower part of Northwest Arkansas I have 1 hive I did not rob them this year I put on a second 10 Fram brood this spring trying to grow and make a stronger hive my question is should I feed my bees or just let them live off what is in the hive they had plenty of honey in September and have been bringing in pollen till this week the goldenrod was still looking last week thank you for all you do for us be beginners this was my son year
Was over at Mom's a couple of days ago, and there were honeybees all over her dill plants, they were still blooming, along with her roses. Not sure about goldenrod, living in town we don't see much anymore. Had a neighbor that kept a nice big stand of goldenrod for the bees, refused to cut it down and constantly fought the city over it, LOL. Unfortunately he passed away last year and his kids cut it all down when they remodeled the house. Anyway, this is in south-central Oklahoma. Headed to a town about 40 miles away tomorrow, I'll keep my eyes peeled for what's still blooming. Say...will the pollen from dill flowers make sourdough bee bread? LOL.
Bush-hogging your tall Goldenrod fields in August can keep it blooming into December. At least it does here in NC.
north Carolina Fayetteville still bring it in ( new bee keeper)
Soo close btw love the vids keep up the good work and you should make a vid of all the basics of beekeeping and all the stuff you need
Ok i will do that.
Our queens in Minnesota stop laying in November and won't start again until February/March
I live in FL and I won't get my Barnyard Bees until next spring.... Thinking about having 2 5 gallon pales of Sugar water sitting across our front yard from our hives and let the bees feed on that along with the Mason jar sugar water on top of our hives to feed our hives for the first year after we get our bees
South west part of virginia. Golden rod has been gone for several weeks.
In central Minnesota, we lost our Goldenrod in mid-September.
Just moved to western TN from ND, so learning all the techniques for the south (still a new beekeeper, only had bees in ND for a few years with limited success). I checked my hives in the fall (early nov) and the top boxes on both my hives was about 80% full. Normally on ND I would just leave them and check in the spring, hoping for the best...but I'm feeling here like I should put in a feeder, some sugar, somethjng...maybe just because I can on a warmer day. Should I leave them or check?
Bees are bringing in pollen -Nov 22 south Ga.- Not sure what kind of pollen, but it’s pollen.
No golden rod or anything here in Northwest Missouri. Some warm days though!
it was 70 today in mercer county wv
This will be my fisrt year overwintering bees. I've got on sugar boards and quilt boxes above that. What are your thoughts on that?
That will work.
I use basically the same and has worked for three winters for me. I’ll be uploading soon about my final wintering of my hives.
Check out Vino Farms UA-cam video from last week. I am northern Minnesota and had two of three hives survive last winter using his methods.
@@mosquitoswat1 Oh yeah. I use Vivaldi boards also. I basically mirror his.
@@mosquitoswat1 yeah I seen that. I'm a big fan of Vino Farms.
Sure is getting cold out up north! Good luck with overwintering everyone!!
I found out winter bees are not tame bees.. looked at one hive yesterday and got stung 25+ times messing with the sugar water feeder.. have a good one buddy and take care. 🐝🐝🐝
Oh yeah winter bees can be vicious.
If I can make a suggestion, You stated to NEVER open your hive once winter sets in. Maybe should state to not open unless needed? I live in Nova Scotia, Canada... Ive opened mine for emergency feeding during our winters here (sub 0) with no losses. If I hadnt have done it, they DEF would have died.
So, I'm in north Texas. I've had 7 of 18 hives die this month. I am concerned about losing the survivors. I thought I was doing okay, based upon bee activity. But it was just robbing. Is there a way I can differentiate between cleansing flights and a dead hive being robbed out?
Yes, look for pieces of wax capping around the entrance, and the ground.
NYC here took over 2 hives at the community garden. The guy before me took to much honey off and didn't leave them with enough to over winter. So I'm going to have to feed all winter I think. I'm also a new Bee keeper. Started feeding middle of November (mountain camp). Hoping I can get them through till spring. Any advice you can give me? Thanks in advance.
I had some sugar-fondant boards in storage from winter 2021, and the mice got into them. It looks like they could have peed on some spots- use or discard?
Ordered my bees
The queen lives the longest
I live in md is 1 3/8 in hole big enough for ventilation
will you please do a video in spring on how to catch bees in swarm trap?
Ok i will
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Would you use pollen patties in the fall?
Does that Guardian Hive entrance work good
Im up here in zone 5 southern New Hampshire. Sometimes our hive might get low in it's food supply. I have in the past gone in to give them fondent patty for food. We sometimes go in January to place them. Is that not a good idea?
i do not have ten frames of bees in each one of my three hives should should i take off the top deep they have all honey in them in Fayetteville N C
No, leave as is.
@@davidhaught84 thank you
Where can one purchase the orange tunnel entrances to the hives, I am building new hives, and wish to incorporate them into the new boxes.
I'm a beekeeper in Germany. Winter hit hard, lost more than half my hives. I had to open them to give the ones alive feed for the rest of winter.How do you suggest I feed them without breaking the "glue"?
If they are starving out, you don't have a choice but to open and feed.
I new a beekeeper in California that did winter feeding in January at night when it was in the thirties. He said it kept the clusters tighter so he could put the reed closer to the bees, and reduced the robbers. He had about 1500 hives as I recall.
First year beekeeper. First winter. I live in canton,ga. I thought I did everything right to winterize. I have a screened bb and internal gravity feeder. Had the top insulated. I saw video to use sugar 2-1 then dec1 sugar patty. I didn’t see them flying out today, checked, my girls are all dead. 😓...... 3-4 weeks ago, the bees were all over the grass and ground. Some crawling some dead. Not sure what that means. Thanks for any input
Did you treat for mites?
It was Hive beetle infestation. I have 3 hives now doing well. I have learned a lot since then.
What is the coldest temp. For bees . I'm in south Texas
I filled my top feeder with sugar water. Should I remove it and just use dry sugar. This is my first winter and I am a little south of Chatsworth. .
Hi from Scotland .My question is how do you feed your bees candy in winter if you don’t go into your hive?
November 29! South central PA. Pollen still coming in.
What's your view on insulating the hive for winter? I'm in southeast Texas and our winters are usually mold, but our weather is unpredictable and a week of freezing weather is not unheard of here.
In deep north yes, but in the south no need.
David can you please tell me the name of your friends page. I didn’t find a FB page for just Valley Beekeeper and I would like to find it. We are in north Fla and it’s hard to find content from southern beekeepers . Thanks for making your videos! We have learned so much from you!
Its Page Valley Bee Keeper's
If you have a few hives and are moving out of state how do you transport your hive?
Close them up at night, ratchet strap the boxes together. Use two 2x4s, strapped to the boxes, like a stretcher underneath. Pickup or a trailer would be best. You can just slide then in amd strap them down. If a truck or trailer isn't an option, do the same thing but adapt to whatever other vehicle you have for transport. Be prepared, they're heavy. Move slow.
@@libertybellbeekeepers thanks so much! Doing my research before I make the commitment. What is your opinion on the Type of hive to start with ? The new Flow hive looks good or the horizontal hive. Input and expertise appreciated.🐝🐝
My hive was gone... there was some dead bees but the majority of all my be were just gone... not sure what happened. We are in Northern California it gets below freezing every night
Mine left because of too many small hive beetles
If I need to feed my bees because my hive is light whats the best way to do it and should I give pollen patties or sugar water, which is better for my bees? I live an hour above atlanta
is sugar better then honey for bee's in the winter or through out the year?
What is that orange device at the entrance?
David I'm going to use sugar cakes in a 2" deep frame on my top hive. Do I put the inner cover on top of it? Also, what about a water source for winter? Thanks!
Inner cover is fine. Don't worry about water.
I was wondering what happened to you. How much of temperature change can bees take like from 20 to 70 degrees in 24 hours
That doesn't bother them at all.
Is it true if you open the hive up in the cold months that if you spook the queen she will stop laying for a few days?
Not sure, I've never heard that.
People overwinter bees outside in Canada and they live. You don’t have to put them in indoor storage.
No black Friday sale this year? BTW got an ad for Flow Hive. Slick, but I'm not falling for it.
Yes we do starting midnight Thursday night.
I am wondering if you use a screen bottom board in the winter?
I'm 30 miles northwest of charlotte nc. 2 hives feeding 2 to 1 the heaviest is still taking it but the lighter one isn't. Both double deeps. The lighter one has only about 40lbs in the top deep. Does anyone experience lighter colonies not taking syrup?
Andrew, lighter hives that are not taking in syrup are generally light on bees too. Does not mean they won't make it, but should be fed sugar bricks ad emergency rations.
In general what does it cost to start a bee hive? Just wondering
Depends on where you live, what equipment you want (5 frame, 8 frame, 10 frame?) How many hives do you want to keep?
I have 2, 10 frames hives with alittle extra equipment. Right now all they are, are a deep, and medium, thats all they built up to b4 winter for my first year. But i have 6 other medium boxes along with the frames. And want to only keep about 10 hives, and just build them up vertically.
I spent $200 for the 1 hive that included BB, 1 deep, 4 medium, Q excluder, inner cover and telescoping top. Same amount for the other one too. I spent $115? For 100 medium frames, and $.98 per each deep frame and i got 30 of these from a guy off facebook marketplace. And i spent $75 on a 5 frame nuc of bee's from a local hobbiest beekeeper.
I also invested into an electric fence solar, $175, and wire $25 off facebook marketplace.
I probably spent at least $1,000 already. So really depends on you.
@@briannad4513 My first year I spent $2,000 or more and I have 7 hives and extraction equipment. I got 350 lbs of honey extracted and sold for $8 a lb. so I came out even the first year. Next year I should make some money.
@@russellkoopman3004 i didn't buy an extractor but plan to get more equipment. I didn't start out the most prepared tho. I could have put more $$$ into it but this is my first year and even after i studied a whole year b4 starting beekeeping, apparently i didn't do enough studying.
if u want to know if u have bees still alive in the hive. use a plastic tube 3/8 od about 2.5 ft long. insert into opening about 2 inches.
put other end in your ear and listen.
u will hear light buzzing if u still have bees in hive that are alive.
Don't knock on hive, to wake them up.
do not do anything to disturb them.
just listen for buzzing.
if alot of buzzing u probably have alot of bees still alive.
if less buzzing there are still bees alive .
do not tap on hive do not open hive. till bees start to emerge on their own.
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I disagree, I’ve seen videos of master beekeepers saying the exact opposite. I open my hives for quick check a few times during the winter. I live up in the Puget sound region. They do just fine.
First one on
Are you a beekeeper??
@@frogboy2114 yes
I make videos as well
Wow
Can I feed my bees🐝 with brown sugar ?
No don’t use brown sugar.
Why not?
@@MrCool-ti7iu the molasses in brown sugar is toxic to bees.
4 ads in the 10 minutes this vid ran is too many
I know, it is getting a bit ridiculous! The worst is when you are listening to music and you keep getting interupted by ads!
Way exaggerated.
All my bees died
Oh no , so sorry for that.
Do you know why? Doing a good post mortem on the hive(s) is important so that you do not have a repeat next year.
Yeah the queen stop laying like a week after I got them so they eventually killed her because they knew she wouldn't laying