@@cedricfoust1941 When you are showing a person how to pronounce something, it's best to use straightforward, phonetic spelling, rather than using existing words, especially ones that are not pronounced phonetically. It's especially best for those who are learning English ASL.
Bedlam is a 10/10 album. Hits me somewhere in the soul, it can be very dark if you are susceptible to such things, but with the right mindset it's simply a beautiful work of art that seems to reach out to it's listeners. I believe anything harmful to do with it is sealed within, and toothless now
I met my girlfriend in 2016, having owned TBiG for a few years. Her nickname online has the surname BedLam, and has done since way before I met her. The street number of my address is ten times hers, our Mothers' maiden names are one letter different, and my bicycle combination lock code in 2017 - factory set - was the last four digits of her family's landline phone number since the 1960s. She got a tattoo of an AK47 firearm on her left forearm, so I designed a similarly random tattoo for my opposite forearm, with five random digits in it; 40732. It reads GR_NDM__H_RF_CKER (I went to edit this reply but it failed, letting me know that youpube disallowed it due to supposedly including this "code") in the font on Grandmaster Flash's 1976 album, and references the fact that she has grandchildren (I'm a grand mfer who sleeps with a grandmother). I since learned through an online associate, that § 40732 is a firearm sales code in the USA. Also, the 4 being the letter A, is the third character from the left, and the K is 3rd from the right. So the tattoo could be read as AK overlaid upon 40-7. The 4,0,7 is three digits and the 32 is two, fractally referencing the 3,2. Of course, I hadn't realised that it's actually "Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five". So, did my subconscious design these aspects or some other entity? I'm irreligious, but consider the possibility that I may be incorrect.
all of 'the mars volta' albums have some macabre, esoteric story behind them. the one behind 'frances the mute" is probably the next wildest after this one
@@stephenandrich3864Amputechtre is I believe the only one without a running theme or narrative. Cedric spoke of how that album lyrically was very easy to write compared to the others
the mars volta is my favorite band of all time! i used to say that this was my favorite album by them, but the past couple years, i’ve come to realize that my favorite tmv album is just whichever one i’m listening to in that moment. i highly suggest looking into their other albums, both for how consistently great the music is and for the really interesting stories that go into them. frances the mute in particular has a freaking crazy backstory
10+ years later rhis album remains among my favorites and is a cyclical subject of my obsession. Sans any spiritual implications, the musicianship and audio engineering is masterful. The compositions are among the band's finest. There's a following of "horror" related music out there, but little of it is successful at illiciting a genuine sense of fear like this album, and I'm suprised this album is not considered among horror-esque styles. Truly a provocative record in prog-rock that sheds light on aspects of our universe never meant to be understood. My favorite TMV album, although Comatorium is a formidable second and a first for many other fans.
Thank you for making this video. It aligns perfectly with what I have read about. Please note that all of the Mars Volta recordings have a cool story behind, the record content and recording process. Please, please, please make another video on another TMV album.
literally just listened to this in the gym and jumped on progrock subreddit which i have never done before and here it is. Classic album, love it so much!
Huge Mars Volta fan. I was listening this album on repeat when it came out. Heard this story about the ouija board and didn't doubt it. It sounded a lot like a story Geezer from Black Sabbath told about how Ozzy bought an old grimoire and used it. Geezer was asleep and woke up one night to see a shadow person hovering over him. He stated how it felt from then on the music seemed to have come from another place. Mars Volta and Black Sabbath may have created great music but it definitely took a toll on their lives. I'd recommend the advice given by Sir Christopher Lee and don't ever get involved in the occult.
Interestingly John Frusciante said in an interview he left the band in 2008 because he was a mess and got to much into the occult during their tour. A coincidence? Maybe that had also something to do with the Soothsayer.
One of my all time favorite albums! Hard to decide between Amputechture and this, their new album is amazing too!! Great video! I remember when it came out, the deluxe version came on a USB drive shaped like a planchette!
Thank you! Really a wild story. Have you listened to the album? The only other super in depth video I could find was by a channel called Daydream Deluxe. His is a little longer and goes into even more detail, I’m pretty sure he’s a bigger fan of the band so he gave more context to that side of the story if that sounds interesting to you. Here’s the link! ua-cam.com/video/trwGbBJXIWk/v-deo.html
@@howdyimvictoria Oh yeah, huge TMV fan. Not my personal favorite album of their's but, always found the story fascinating and creepy. Not sure if you already know but, Tool has some similar stories. Danny (the drummer) is very into the occult and even talks about summoning a demon at one point during during the recording of one of the albums as I recall. I don't fully remember the story but, remember it being similarly eerie to some of the things Cedric and Omar mentioned about their experience recording this album. Thanks for sharing the other video! I'll definitely give it a watch.
Also found it interesting that the biggest addition to their band at the time, Thomas Pridgen came from the gospel world as one of the most sought after drummers coming out of the “gospel chops” world… that definitely seemed strategic as the Mars Volta could have had any drummer hey wanted at that point.
This album came out in a moment when I bathed in anxiety in all the spheres of my life. It was exactly what I needed musically. I'm going to see them live tomorrow.😊
This was a awesome video. Lots of details I haven't heard before. Bedlam is my favorite album by the band. I've listened to it hundreds of times and nothing bad has hap...
Kudos on the video and the work behind it. The Bedlam in Goliath is my favorite album but now I'm kind of glad I never got it back from the person i lent it to aha. I also have heard this story so many times but i don't think i knew about the santeria within the writing. That's incredible!
Honestly I think this will forever be my favorite album of all time! Front to back it’s a masterpiece and the lore behind it just makes it so much more interesting. Every song has it’s own personality like pieces of a puzzle making the album feel like a complete journey!
It's hard to find mars volta friends in public let alone in LA but last summer I got locked up and remember hearing the verse " Never heard a man speak like this man before ".. then bedlam in Goliath took over my thoughts and by the end of the day lo and behold I meet a cook who's an extreme mars volta fan even had it tattooed. He had been locked up for a while and didn't know about the upcoming album in which he freaked out because everything they release a new album he's always locked up. He freaked out and truly believed I was a messenger.
This is one of my favorite albums of all time. The songs connect with me in a spiritual level that I’ve never experienced before. It’s dark. It’s intense. It’s long and winding but all connects in the end and is beautifully put together. I remember smoking a blend of light hallucinogenic herbs and feeling like I was transported into the album. Every time I closed my eyes I was in the desserts, the towns, I saw the people. Weird masses of flesh dressed as people. It’s a beautiful album.
I’m not a very superstitious person but I will say this, I always end up going back to this record when things in my life are going very wrong and I’m at my lowest. Goliath lives on through all of us who are drawn to this record.
I remember when this album came out… it was so shrouded in intrigue, fear and excitement… to this day the only album I’ve bought on cd, the ouija usb files and about 2 digital albums to get all the songs! Incredible album!! Was actually pretty scared to listen but once I read there was protection in it, was then truly able to fully enjoy it! Great video btw!
I'm pretty sure the "protection" that they put into the album was for THEM, not the listener. From what I've read, it seems like they somehow "trapped" the curse within the album, and when the listener experiences the album, they are the lucky ones to receive that "gift". They basically deflected a curse away from themselves, which they brought upon themselves by playing with something they probably shouldn't have, and onto their fans.
The Mars Volta is the greatest prog rock band that has ever been and ever will be. Frances the Mute is my favorite followed closely by Deloused, then it's Amputechture and then Goliath. The reason is simple: Jon Theodore. Cedric admitted later in life that firing Jon Theodore was the biggest mistake he had made with the band.
I love The Mars Volta, Omar and Cedric have been my creative hero’s since at the drive-in. I think Frances the mute is their best album, but bedlam is pretty dope. I also have has some crazy spooky experiences with that album. I bought the cd the first day it came out. I waited to get home to listen to it, because I wanted to not be interrupted while o was listening. I put the cd in my computer because my speakers where badass at the time. When I finished listened to it I burned the cd to my computer library. Later that night I was invited to a party by my friend Daniel. Soon as I got in the car I put the cd in and was jaming the song Askepios because I thought that song is a vibe to say the least. Right at the part where CEDRIC says “help me come alive” the cd stops playing, and strays making a sound like you hit the eject button but nothing came out. I tried to skip tracks but it wasn’t reacting to me hitting the skip button, so then I to eject it and it would not come out. The cd never came out of the CD player, and I had never had issues with my CD player before I put that cd in. About 2 months later I was in a car accident that totaled my car, with the bedlam cd still stuck in the CD player. True fucking story. Also the mars volta is back together as a band and they sound better than ever. Love the video sorry about the novel.
SOOOOO I have the vinyl with the Ouija board piece as well. Its a recording of something played backwards, and its super scary. I have showed it to multiple friends who've made me turn it off because it is quite unsettling. Pretty crazy story.
What other band has so many personal synchronicities utilized artistically in such a badass way? I was born in El Paso their hometown, but grew up in Houston (luckily)
Look into the deaths in and around Canyon Lake, Tx. Particularly the drownings. And how often bodies have been unrecoverd. The lake itself is a beautiful little secret in Texas. Growing up visiting it, we were warned that swimming was ok but to never dive. Because rarely people come back up.
This album came out my graduating year of high school and at the time I was into really heavy music and this album just connected immediately with me. I have to say this album is like the yin Yang it’s extremely spiritual but if you are strong minded and do not practice the dark arts then it shouldn’t affect you
I don't believe in the spiritual part of it, but I've always found Bedlam to be one of the hardest albums to sit through. Even octohedron feels more "right" even though it feels wrong, too. After Deloused, Frances and Amputecture, it's hard not to see through their formula, and be unimpressed by the albums that followed. Until Noctourniquet, of course. That one gives me chills... higher than mountains... cavernous people...
I didn't even watch this video, honestly I don't even want to hear anyone talk about it, I just wanted to find a venue to say what I'm about to say. I love this fucking album, it's wonderful, but I have experienced some really weird shit while listening to it. At first, nothing happened, I probably listened to it on repeat for like a couple months, but one day I was listening to it in the kitchen while washing dishes, my twins were about 5 at the time, eating lunch at their little table in the living room. At one point in one of the songs, I can't remember which one now, they both started screaming as soon as the song said the word God. I think the lyrics were "stuff a voice inside of God". I ran in there, and one of their plates was on the other side of the room, food everywhere, like it was flung. I know, they're kids, but they never just threw plates. They were well mannered about sitting down and eating, and they both were really upset. I knew the alleged story behind the album when I bought it, so it kind of put me on edge for a while. Since then, I tried to listen to it a few times and just weird stuff has happened, bad news phone calls, ect. Small stuff that I can't really remember. I stopped for a while, then tried a few years later to listen to it alone in the car twice. Both times my car broke down. I haven't listened to it since. I've never deleted it from my iTunes, and it's weird to have an album that I like so much and can't bring myself to listen to. I'm honestly a little scared of it. I don't know what you believe, and maybe it's all coincidence, but I'm too old to tempt the universe anymore. Take this story as you will. Call me silly or crazy or just plain stupid, but as bad as I want to, I don't think I'll ever try to listen to it again. I haven't deleted it because I guess it's just kind of a novelty for me, just to have it, like a strange curation.
You need to delete it. Every single person that bought the album, and read about the "protection" element of it is completely misunderstanding what that means. The "protection" placed on the album was for THE BAND, not the listener. They effectively diverted a curse away from themselves, which they brought upon themselves by playing with something they shouldn't have, and ONTO THE LISTENER, THEIR FANS. PLEASE DELETE THAT ALBUM IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN.
I listened to this album heavily for a while because I love it but I too felt bad things happen when I listen…which sucks…These bad events seemed to coincide with my heavy listening of the Mars Volta in general so at first I just completely stopped listening to them. But I couldn’t keep away and now I listen to every other album but this one. I remember reading about this album being cursed but not thinking twice about it until after these events. I will admit I was at a pretty low time in my life anyway during this and have drunkenly listened to it since with no known negative effects. But for the longest time I made it a point to not listen to it anytime something important was coming up or was nervous about something. The weirdest part is I completely ignored this album at first since I just didn’t like it at all. Then after hearing some songs it slowly grew on me to the point it became one of my favorites, like it drew me in. I listened to the song Metatron on NYE 2023 and I think everything is ok, but can’t say the same for the world around me. I am not religious or superstitious but was raised both. Also, drugs were not involved. Could it be the power of suggestion? I like to think of it as just a bad coincidence. Anyone else? PS. Hopefully this is my last edit, sections of the comment kept disappearing.
My biggest question is: Where is this curio shop in jerusalam? Sure, smaller shops can certainly ignore the rise of an online presence, or portentially it is no longer around since 2008. But with the rise of the internet and the necessity for businesses to have an online presence, you'd think that a curious fan visiting the city would certainly have found a "curio shop with taxidermied candle sticks" as Cedric mentions in one interview. That detail alone narrows the scope of where this thing was purchased considerably. The other thing is the history of talking boards and ouija itself. Were they used for long enough in Isreal/middle east/Levant to be considered "antique"? It would have to be a precursor to the current mass produced version, and not much is really known about these items (or maybe I'm wrong in that regard, I'm no historian nor antiquities expert). One creepy observation: that area of texas mentioned in the video is practically a straight-shot drive from El Paso, though a long one. It isn't hard to imagine that, if the story is true, Omar could have buried it there. (excepting his proclivity to travel internationally, of course)
Loved the vid, crazy good research. Only when you claim that many fans of the mars Volta regard this as their favourite album... nah, the only volta fans I know argue between Frances and Deloused as the quintessential piece of the band. Bedlam not even in the conversation.
I've still got the storybook for De-Loused as a PDF somewhere. It was super cool to read the whole story and that they actually wrote a whole short story about it. It really paints the whole story of Julio Venegas through the lens of Cerpin Taxt.
During a particularly dark period of my life I heavily enjoyed abusing amphetamines and listening to Bedlam at max volume. Sometimes it’s fun to feel like a demon is inhabiting your soul.
Ya know I think that makes sense, and I think yeah it is fun sometimes to feel like that lol. There’s not much music that puts me in this space but I feel like this album certainly is qualified hahaha
I love the mars volta and the lore of their earlier works. Such an incredible rock and roll band in everything they are. Their new album was a lovely comeback from a tumultuous legacy.
I had a mild but weird experience with this album as well. I was living with my grandma sometime in 2008 and got into the album for the first time really heavy. I would vacuum my floor in my room and go out for a walk and come home to find pewter figurines on my floor. stuff that neither me nor my grandmother recognized at all. she never went into my room either, especially when I was gone. one other time there was just a flower on the floor in there too. a few other things besides pewter figures but I can't recall all of them. it seemed to only happen in my room too. wish I could remember everything that was left but I do remember that there was a flaw with every one of them. like a wizard figurine was one of them and the staff was broken off of it. of course grandma was an avid ouija board user and a believer of the paranormal, but she had no idea what the music I was listening to was or what it was about.
My friend put this album into my car's CD player unannounced while we were on a road trip. I was immediately filled with dread and about 10 seconds after it started playing my transmission blew on the highway. I had even gotten my car inspected twice because I thought something bad was going to happen. One of the scariest moments of my life thus far.
I got this cd the day it came out. We were living in Las Vegas and we had just come out of an almost 3yr battle with some entity my husband came home with, after a year in Iraq. We both felt something off about the entire work, we tossed it into a box and left it there. Oddly enough, we moved to El Paso TX in October '08. We spent 11 yrs in El Paso, our experience in EP were so intense, it almost seems impossible that we survived. I always knew something was up with that recording. Thank you for sharing this!!
Hey awesome video! Really appreciate the effort you put into making rhe video and also cursing your audience X) Just wanted to correct something you mentioned in the video: The band member that died, Jeremy Ward, died of a heroin overdose, which caused Cedric and Omar to quit heroin but not drugs (they still smoked weed and did LSD and things like that). I think Cedric didn't completely quit drugs until 2009 when he joined the Church of Scientology
Televators is the 1st song I've heard by them. I was instantly.... "Huh? What?! Who's this? Where's their albums?". Don't know how I missed out on them when they were first breaking ground. One of my top 3 favs of all time.
Great video! I’m a huge mars volta fan and am currently buying all the individual records from their website. I got the bedlam of goliath on vinyl too. Have you ever listened to the album? If not i highly recvomend it, the energy on this album is absolutely visceral and punches your face in and knocks your teeth out from the first song to the last.
That’s cool! I’m really happy to see that fans of the band seem to like the video, as someone outside of the fan base I wanted to be respectful and just retell the story as I found it in my own way. I am working my way through the album now! Another subscriber made me an “intro to the Mars Volta” playlist and I’m making my through it! This album I might need some extra time with, as my paranoia gets the best of me lol
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it, happy to have you. Any topics in particular regarding those two groups you’d like to hear about? I’m familiar with Radiohead but not super closely, and I haven’t checked out Outrun the sunlight but I will be now. Curious to know what you’d be interested in seeing as someone more familiar with them.
@@howdyimvictoria well I watched some of your covers (great!) and karna police would make a good addition to your collection. I've been digging outrun the sun light a lot since I heard their album terrapin and it's the first time I was introduced to soundscapes. Sober, I could close my eyes and visualize the album. I'm not really 'genre’ minded, yet there's something about this band and others, like tesseract and northlane, that can make visual instrumentals. Unfortunately for me I can't even snap my fingers to jingle bells. So, it's difficult to describe how the music makes me feel. You, however, seem to have a wealth of knowledge and passion for music. I thought maybe you can help me understand why I can see an entire visual narrative listening to an outrun the sunlight album but, regretfully, a Tom Jones (even electronic or jazz) album doesn't have the same effect. I appreciate you for following up.
I dont think they ever will again lol. Too many bad memories I imagine. Live Nation listed their last concert from 2012 where they played “Goliath,” so I dont think itll happen tbh
It’s an incredible album, best of TMV by far. I refrained myself to listen to it complete and / or track list order as weird things happen on the following days, so either I pick up my fav songs, or play it in random order
I just woke up from a dream. Sitting in a group of people , Indian style. They were all singing the televator’s chorus. “ you should have see… etc…. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped… then I woke up. I have always loved these guys. Something about that dream put me off.. I woke up and have been doing some digging. Which lead me here. Very interesting how things work. The dream is one of those dreams that you won’t forget anytime soon. May god be with you all.
a primeira vez que ouvi esse disco, pensei "definitivamente tem algo pesado aqui além da música". Tenho a sensibilidade de uma pedra pra coisas espirituais mas, mesmo no auge do meu ceticismo, sempre penso "que coisa maravilhosa, horrorosa e demoníaca é esse álbum". ♥
I remember buying this album back in my teen years when it released. Listened to it many times, and the weirdest I have experienced is losing the DVD that it came with , I remember it slipped out the jewel case and rolled under my bed. I went to look for it, moved the bed and rearranged everything, and it never showed up..I have no idea where it could have gotten to.
Wonderful video, Victoria! I love this album with my life and it is my favorite from them since I first listened to it (and The Mars Volta) at my 14s. I knew about the heavy occult weight the album had behind it but not this whole context. It is quiet good. I'm the kind to be very skeptical about this things but I kinda feel the eerie vibes from the album and I personally love it. It soothes(sayer?) my restless mind. My theory could be that they were manifesting all this. Poltergeist kinda deal. Suggestion can be very powerful and more when a lot of people are involved and aware of it. It is as fantastical of a possibility as what you told but still. Fun to make theories around it. Already subbed! and also your eye shadow looks so cute! Orange is for sure your colour, girl :3
2:44 Damn, Lol that should've served as a bad sign, but no, they just kept going! BTW, my favorite songs on the album are "Ilyena", "Goliath" (mainly the songs latter half), "Tourniquet Man" and Ouroboros.
"Goliath" has an inhuman amount of energy as a song. It's not normal, it's alien, out of this plane, or whatever we call it, you feel a PRESENCE. That shit REALLY scares me when in hits the final part with the "never heard a man speak like this man before", I can only wonder who that dude is, but I KNOW he's up to no good. The energy level is insane at that point and he is in charge. Freaky shit. But I love it.
many years ago i was going through a deep depression... That's when i listen this album for the first time, and it's when odd shit started, like i felt that someone of something was with me everyday, everynight to this day, i don't feel alone in the dark anymore
its awesome to hear some of the details i lacked, be shared in this video. Also, The Mars Volta is back together and touring with a new line up of 3 girls filling in the drums, bass, and keyboard. I saw them live last year and it was incredible!
I have this album on vinyl. It came with a ouija board. I dont mess with the ouija aspect of it but I've listened to the records many times. I get only good vibes and enjoyment while listening. I heard about this before and also heard that listening to it keeps the entity under control. It's fine to listen. I actually love it.
yeah yeah sure... the spirit within the board and all that. true story bro! i'll tell you how this album was written: cedric and omar were listening to music, one king crimson song came up and they were like "hey, we can make an entire album out of this sound"
This reason is one of the reasons I don't fuck with ouija boards. It's the album that got me into The Mars Volta, my favorite band and the only "professional" concert I've ever been to, and I look up to it as a fantastic "easier to consume" TMV album. My 3 favorites in order are Frances, De-loused and Bedlam :) They're back now btw.
Honestly great album, helped me finish out my senior year of high school. I had the medalian pendant merch, it was a USB drive & you'd update it bi-weekly with new videos an pictures but never got all of it because I had to use the schools internet because mine was dial up still 😂 but after watching this I wonder if this album had carried a dark cloud off an on for me then. Still many track's i love off it, and seen them in 09 at Roo which melted my face off and was amazing. Sorry kinda long run on sentences but throughly love & enjoy the videos & your general vibe 🤘
I loved the story & vid but his name is pronounced “Said-Rick”
Thank you so much for the correction!! Total oversight on my end for sure. Thank you for watching, I’m glad you liked the video 😌
I'm sorry but this is wrong too. It's pronounced "Sed-rick." There's no "ayyy" sound in his name.
@@groovydeath I’m saying how is the would said pronounced??
@@groovydeath There is no "ayyy" sound in the word said either 🤣 "Said Rick" is the correct pronunciation
@@cedricfoust1941 When you are showing a person how to pronounce something, it's best to use straightforward, phonetic spelling, rather than using existing words, especially ones that are not pronounced phonetically. It's especially best for those who are learning English ASL.
I'd gladly harbor a curse to listen to Aberinkula, Metatron, Ilyena, Cavalettas, Ouroboros, Conjugal Burns... Great songs!
Hahaha music is a powerful thing, ya gotta do what ya gotta do! I’m gonna slowly listen to it but for now my paranoia is saying nah lol
Amen
Be careful what you wish for.
How can you forget Goliath? That ending is damn powerful
Bedlam is a 10/10 album. Hits me somewhere in the soul, it can be very dark if you are susceptible to such things, but with the right mindset it's simply a beautiful work of art that seems to reach out to it's listeners. I believe anything harmful to do with it is sealed within, and toothless now
I still need to dive into their discography & really like the way you phrased this, makes me wanna listen even more.
I met my girlfriend in 2016, having owned TBiG for a few years. Her nickname online has the surname BedLam, and has done since way before I met her. The street number of my address is ten times hers, our Mothers' maiden names are one letter different, and my bicycle combination lock code in 2017 - factory set - was the last four digits of her family's landline phone number since the 1960s.
She got a tattoo of an AK47 firearm on her left forearm, so I designed a similarly random tattoo for my opposite forearm, with five random digits in it; 40732. It reads GR_NDM__H_RF_CKER (I went to edit this reply but it failed, letting me know that youpube disallowed it due to supposedly including this "code") in the font on Grandmaster Flash's 1976 album, and references the fact that she has grandchildren (I'm a grand mfer who sleeps with a grandmother).
I since learned through an online associate, that § 40732 is a firearm sales code in the USA. Also, the 4 being the letter A, is the third character from the left, and the K is 3rd from the right.
So the tattoo could be read as AK overlaid upon 40-7.
The 4,0,7 is three digits and the 32 is two, fractally referencing the 3,2.
Of course, I hadn't realised that it's actually "Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five".
So, did my subconscious design these aspects or some other entity? I'm irreligious, but consider the possibility that I may be incorrect.
Exactly
You couldn't be more wrong. You do not understand how this works.
@@dpclerks09 lmao tell me then
all of 'the mars volta' albums have some macabre, esoteric story behind them. the one behind 'frances the mute" is probably the next wildest after this one
What about amputechure?
De-Loused is the best one.
Is all silly stories...
@@stephenandrich3864that's one of the more tame ones lol
@@stephenandrich3864Amputechtre is I believe the only one without a running theme or narrative. Cedric spoke of how that album lyrically was very easy to write compared to the others
the mars volta is my favorite band of all time! i used to say that this was my favorite album by them, but the past couple years, i’ve come to realize that my favorite tmv album is just whichever one i’m listening to in that moment. i highly suggest looking into their other albums, both for how consistently great the music is and for the really interesting stories that go into them. frances the mute in particular has a freaking crazy backstory
Really, what's the story? Where can I find it?
10+ years later rhis album remains among my favorites and is a cyclical subject of my obsession. Sans any spiritual implications, the musicianship and audio engineering is masterful. The compositions are among the band's finest. There's a following of "horror" related music out there, but little of it is successful at illiciting a genuine sense of fear like this album, and I'm suprised this album is not considered among horror-esque styles. Truly a provocative record in prog-rock that sheds light on aspects of our universe never meant to be understood. My favorite TMV album, although Comatorium is a formidable second and a first for many other fans.
Bedlam has been my favorite Mars Volta album since it came out. It's so fucking good!!
I fully agree. I think Bedlam is their best front to back album that has had the most staying power
Thank you for making this video. It aligns perfectly with what I have read about. Please note that all of the Mars Volta recordings have a cool story behind, the record content and recording process. Please, please, please make another video on another TMV album.
Ahhhh I wish a could rewind back time to be 16 years old again and see them live during this tour . Most wicked Volta period
Wish I could be 16 again again see them during the frances the mute tour again 🥰
literally just listened to this in the gym and jumped on progrock subreddit which i have never done before and here it is. Classic album, love it so much!
Ahh that’s cool, I’m so glad you found the video! I’ve had a lot of fans come across it through the subreddit, I’ve loved hearing everyone’s thoughts!
Huge Mars Volta fan. I was listening this album on repeat when it came out. Heard this story about the ouija board and didn't doubt it. It sounded a lot like a story Geezer from Black Sabbath told about how Ozzy bought an old grimoire and used it. Geezer was asleep and woke up one night to see a shadow person hovering over him. He stated how it felt from then on the music seemed to have come from another place. Mars Volta and Black Sabbath may have created great music but it definitely took a toll on their lives. I'd recommend the advice given by Sir Christopher Lee and don't ever get involved in the occult.
Well... you're in now brood in brood out 🧙🧹🪄🧙♂️
Spot on! Especially the last sentence.
Interestingly John Frusciante said in an interview he left the band in 2008 because he was a mess and got to much into the occult during their tour. A coincidence? Maybe that had also something to do with the Soothsayer.
One of my all time favorite albums! Hard to decide between Amputechture and this, their new album is amazing too!!
Great video! I remember when it came out, the deluxe version came on a USB drive shaped like a planchette!
Such a masterpiece album. Just listen to all the intense changes in “agadaz” so beautiful
Great stuff! Definitely most thrurough breakdown of the crazy events that I've heard.
Thank you! Really a wild story. Have you listened to the album?
The only other super in depth video I could find was by a channel called Daydream Deluxe. His is a little longer and goes into even more detail, I’m pretty sure he’s a bigger fan of the band so he gave more context to that side of the story if that sounds interesting to you.
Here’s the link!
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@@howdyimvictoria Oh yeah, huge TMV fan. Not my personal favorite album of their's but, always found the story fascinating and creepy. Not sure if you already know but, Tool has some similar stories. Danny (the drummer) is very into the occult and even talks about summoning a demon at one point during during the recording of one of the albums as I recall. I don't fully remember the story but, remember it being similarly eerie to some of the things Cedric and Omar mentioned about their experience recording this album.
Thanks for sharing the other video! I'll definitely give it a watch.
Also found it interesting that the biggest addition to their band at the time, Thomas Pridgen came from the gospel world as one of the most sought after drummers coming out of the “gospel chops” world… that definitely seemed strategic as the Mars Volta could have had any drummer hey wanted at that point.
This album came out in a moment when I bathed in anxiety in all the spheres of my life. It was exactly what I needed musically. I'm going to see them live tomorrow.😊
I totally see this album to treat anciety. Too much energy, non stop
This was a awesome video. Lots of details I haven't heard before. Bedlam is my favorite album by the band. I've listened to it hundreds of times and nothing bad has hap...
AHHHHHHHH check back in pls 😭😭😭 lol
I’ve heard a lot of fans say it was their favorite, hope y’all are ok 🤣
Deloused in the comatorium is their best album
not even a question. to me they only have the first three albums. after that they may as well be Omar's solo shit.
Frances the mute solos
Kudos on the video and the work behind it. The Bedlam in Goliath is my favorite album but now I'm kind of glad I never got it back from the person i lent it to aha. I also have heard this story so many times but i don't think i knew about the santeria within the writing. That's incredible!
This album is my favorite. Wanted to name my daughter ileyna. The lyrics of that song touch my soul.
Honestly I think this will forever be my favorite album of all time! Front to back it’s a masterpiece and the lore behind it just makes it so much more interesting. Every song has it’s own personality like pieces of a puzzle making the album feel like a complete journey!
It's hard to find mars volta friends in public let alone in LA but last summer I got locked up and remember hearing the verse " Never heard a man speak like this man before ".. then bedlam in Goliath took over my thoughts and by the end of the day lo and behold I meet a cook who's an extreme mars volta fan even had it tattooed. He had been locked up for a while and didn't know about the upcoming album in which he freaked out because everything they release a new album he's always locked up. He freaked out and truly believed I was a messenger.
We in LA!
@@VideInfra that was out in NCCF SuperMax facility in the county blues and trusty greens
This was a nice, little deep dive on a Legendary album! Well done, new friend!
Where can i get a oujia board like that?
This was a sweet insight into a fantastic album!!
In 2008, while listening to this album in my jeep, it caught fire from a backfire and burned to the ground on the side of the road.
This is one of my favorite albums of all time. The songs connect with me in a spiritual level that I’ve never experienced before. It’s dark. It’s intense. It’s long and winding but all connects in the end and is beautifully put together. I remember smoking a blend of light hallucinogenic herbs and feeling like I was transported into the album. Every time I closed my eyes I was in the desserts, the towns, I saw the people. Weird masses of flesh dressed as people. It’s a beautiful album.
This is my favorite band! Going to see them in June! Glad to see people still making videos about them :)
The next time I believe in curses will be the first time. This album has been my favorite TMV album since it came out, and it still is.
Lucky for you, they will work on you whether you believe in them, or not.
@@dpclerks09 Let me know when that happens. :)
I was just talking about this not too long ago. Spooky how It got recommended. Loved the video!
i love how southerners call it a weejee board. it's-a weejee, mario!
I’m not a very superstitious person but I will say this, I always end up going back to this record when things in my life are going very wrong and I’m at my lowest. Goliath lives on through all of us who are drawn to this record.
This is one of the best reviews on, The Bedlam in Goliath I've come across, a suggestion I often make. Great job on this
I remember when this album came out… it was so shrouded in intrigue, fear and excitement… to this day the only album I’ve bought on cd, the ouija usb files and about 2 digital albums to get all the songs! Incredible album!! Was actually pretty scared to listen but once I read there was protection in it, was then truly able to fully enjoy it! Great video btw!
I'm pretty sure the "protection" that they put into the album was for THEM, not the listener. From what I've read, it seems like they somehow "trapped" the curse within the album, and when the listener experiences the album, they are the lucky ones to receive that "gift". They basically deflected a curse away from themselves, which they brought upon themselves by playing with something they probably shouldn't have, and onto their fans.
Absolutely love this album and not the least of all because of this story. Great video!
The Mars Volta is the greatest prog rock band that has ever been and ever will be.
Frances the Mute is my favorite followed closely by Deloused, then it's Amputechture and then Goliath. The reason is simple: Jon Theodore. Cedric admitted later in life that firing Jon Theodore was the biggest mistake he had made with the band.
This is the general consensus, but I much prefer TP. I prefer his drumming as it sounds more visceral.
I love The Mars Volta, Omar and Cedric have been my creative hero’s since at the drive-in. I think Frances the mute is their best album, but bedlam is pretty dope. I also have has some crazy spooky experiences with that album. I bought the cd the first day it came out. I waited to get home to listen to it, because I wanted to not be interrupted while o was listening. I put the cd in my computer because my speakers where badass at the time. When I finished listened to it I burned the cd to my computer library. Later that night I was invited to a party by my friend Daniel. Soon as I got in the car I put the cd in and was jaming the song Askepios because I thought that song is a vibe to say the least. Right at the part where CEDRIC says “help me come alive” the cd stops playing, and strays making a sound like you hit the eject button but nothing came out. I tried to skip tracks but it wasn’t reacting to me hitting the skip button, so then I to eject it and it would not come out. The cd never came out of the CD player, and I had never had issues with my CD player before I put that cd in. About 2 months later I was in a car accident that totaled my car, with the bedlam cd still stuck in the CD player. True fucking story. Also the mars volta is back together as a band and they sound better than ever. Love the video sorry about the novel.
SOOOOO I have the vinyl with the Ouija board piece as well. Its a recording of something played backwards, and its super scary. I have showed it to multiple friends who've made me turn it off because it is quite unsettling. Pretty crazy story.
I love tmv, and this is BY FAR my favorite album. Had no idea about this backstory. Makes perfect sense to me
What other band has so many personal synchronicities utilized artistically in such a badass way? I was born in El Paso their hometown, but grew up in Houston (luckily)
i always loved this album and it has always scared me more than the other mars volta albums. earned a sub, thanks for the video.
Look into the deaths in and around Canyon Lake, Tx. Particularly the drownings. And how often bodies have been unrecoverd. The lake itself is a beautiful little secret in Texas. Growing up visiting it, we were warned that swimming was ok but to never dive. Because rarely people come back up.
Ok new favorite yt channel, amazing video omg
Ahh thanks so much, happy to have ya 🥰🥰
This album came out my graduating year of high school and at the time I was into really heavy music and this album just connected immediately with me. I have to say this album is like the yin Yang it’s extremely spiritual but if you are strong minded and do not practice the dark arts then it shouldn’t affect you
Really cool to see such an in-depth look at this album. Great job on putting all this together. Such a wild album with such a wild history.
I don't believe in the spiritual part of it, but I've always found Bedlam to be one of the hardest albums to sit through.
Even octohedron feels more "right" even though it feels wrong, too.
After Deloused, Frances and Amputecture, it's hard not to see through their formula, and be unimpressed by the albums that followed.
Until Noctourniquet, of course. That one gives me chills... higher than mountains... cavernous people...
I didn't even watch this video, honestly I don't even want to hear anyone talk about it, I just wanted to find a venue to say what I'm about to say. I love this fucking album, it's wonderful, but I have experienced some really weird shit while listening to it. At first, nothing happened, I probably listened to it on repeat for like a couple months, but one day I was listening to it in the kitchen while washing dishes, my twins were about 5 at the time, eating lunch at their little table in the living room. At one point in one of the songs, I can't remember which one now, they both started screaming as soon as the song said the word God. I think the lyrics were "stuff a voice inside of God". I ran in there, and one of their plates was on the other side of the room, food everywhere, like it was flung. I know, they're kids, but they never just threw plates. They were well mannered about sitting down and eating, and they both were really upset. I knew the alleged story behind the album when I bought it, so it kind of put me on edge for a while. Since then, I tried to listen to it a few times and just weird stuff has happened, bad news phone calls, ect. Small stuff that I can't really remember. I stopped for a while, then tried a few years later to listen to it alone in the car twice. Both times my car broke down. I haven't listened to it since. I've never deleted it from my iTunes, and it's weird to have an album that I like so much and can't bring myself to listen to. I'm honestly a little scared of it. I don't know what you believe, and maybe it's all coincidence, but I'm too old to tempt the universe anymore. Take this story as you will. Call me silly or crazy or just plain stupid, but as bad as I want to, I don't think I'll ever try to listen to it again. I haven't deleted it because I guess it's just kind of a novelty for me, just to have it, like a strange curation.
You need to delete it. Every single person that bought the album, and read about the "protection" element of it is completely misunderstanding what that means. The "protection" placed on the album was for THE BAND, not the listener. They effectively diverted a curse away from themselves, which they brought upon themselves by playing with something they shouldn't have, and ONTO THE LISTENER, THEIR FANS. PLEASE DELETE THAT ALBUM IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN.
@@dpclerks09 Shit, you might be right. I never heard about any protection element
that was a wild ride omg, i am tempted but also scared to listen to the album
Literally same 😭 I feel like that woman from that episode of wife swap like this album is dark sided!!!!!!
dont be scared ive listened to this album on shrooms and literally nothing happened, you good bruv
Great deep dive! I also researched it a long time ago so great work. You're very articulate & ridiculously beautiful. Thank you. Subbed.
Bedlam is all gas and no brakes. I think it’s their best album front to back. It also has had the most staying power.
I listened to this album heavily for a while because I love it but I too felt bad things happen when I listen…which sucks…These bad events seemed to coincide with my heavy listening of the Mars Volta in general so at first I just completely stopped listening to them. But I couldn’t keep away and now I listen to every other album but this one. I remember reading about this album being cursed but not thinking twice about it until after these events.
I will admit I was at a pretty low time in my life anyway during this and have drunkenly listened to it since with no known negative effects. But for the longest time I made it a point to not listen to it anytime something important was coming up or was nervous about something.
The weirdest part is I completely ignored this album at first since I just didn’t like it at all. Then after hearing some songs it slowly grew on me to the point it became one of my favorites, like it drew me in.
I listened to the song Metatron on NYE 2023 and I think everything is ok, but can’t say the same for the world around me. I am not religious or superstitious but was raised both. Also, drugs were not involved. Could it be the power of suggestion? I like to think of it as just a bad coincidence. Anyone else?
PS. Hopefully this is my last edit, sections of the comment kept disappearing.
This was great, thanks Victoria .
Fantastic breakdown of the story!
tmv are one of my favorite groups ever. frances the mute is spectacular. bedlam is amazing too plus the story is so creepy
My biggest question is: Where is this curio shop in jerusalam? Sure, smaller shops can certainly ignore the rise of an online presence, or portentially it is no longer around since 2008. But with the rise of the internet and the necessity for businesses to have an online presence, you'd think that a curious fan visiting the city would certainly have found a "curio shop with taxidermied candle sticks" as Cedric mentions in one interview. That detail alone narrows the scope of where this thing was purchased considerably. The other thing is the history of talking boards and ouija itself. Were they used for long enough in Isreal/middle east/Levant to be considered "antique"? It would have to be a precursor to the current mass produced version, and not much is really known about these items (or maybe I'm wrong in that regard, I'm no historian nor antiquities expert).
One creepy observation: that area of texas mentioned in the video is practically a straight-shot drive from El Paso, though a long one. It isn't hard to imagine that, if the story is true, Omar could have buried it there. (excepting his proclivity to travel internationally, of course)
Omg you're so right about it possibly being buried near that house
Also, that album received a Grammy
Loved the vid, crazy good research. Only when you claim that many fans of the mars Volta regard this as their favourite album... nah, the only volta fans I know argue between Frances and Deloused as the quintessential piece of the band. Bedlam not even in the conversation.
Wait until you hear about the story behind their first album, De-Loused in The Comatorium.
And Frances the Mute.
I've still got the storybook for De-Loused as a PDF somewhere. It was super cool to read the whole story and that they actually wrote a whole short story about it. It really paints the whole story of Julio Venegas through the lens of Cerpin Taxt.
During a particularly dark period of my life I heavily enjoyed abusing amphetamines and listening to Bedlam at max volume. Sometimes it’s fun to feel like a demon is inhabiting your soul.
Ya know I think that makes sense, and I think yeah it is fun sometimes to feel like that lol. There’s not much music that puts me in this space but I feel like this album certainly is qualified hahaha
Yous need to ask Christ into your lives.
^ that's what they tell people at the rehab and halfway house and at their own house and all the places it happens anyway
I love the mars volta and the lore of their earlier works. Such an incredible rock and roll band in everything they are. Their new album was a lovely comeback from a tumultuous legacy.
I totally agree. It was chill, but that's not always bad. Can't wait for their next one
Experienced multiple weird occurrences listening to the tourniquet man. Won't be listening to it again.
Wise decision.
I had a mild but weird experience with this album as well. I was living with my grandma sometime in 2008 and got into the album for the first time really heavy. I would vacuum my floor in my room and go out for a walk and come home to find pewter figurines on my floor. stuff that neither me nor my grandmother recognized at all. she never went into my room either, especially when I was gone. one other time there was just a flower on the floor in there too. a few other things besides pewter figures but I can't recall all of them. it seemed to only happen in my room too. wish I could remember everything that was left but I do remember that there was a flaw with every one of them. like a wizard figurine was one of them and the staff was broken off of it. of course grandma was an avid ouija board user and a believer of the paranormal, but she had no idea what the music I was listening to was or what it was about.
My friend put this album into my car's CD player unannounced while we were on a road trip. I was immediately filled with dread and about 10 seconds after it started playing my transmission blew on the highway.
I had even gotten my car inspected twice because I thought something bad was going to happen.
One of the scariest moments of my life thus far.
I got this cd the day it came out. We were living in Las Vegas and we had just come out of an almost 3yr battle with some entity my husband came home with, after a year in Iraq. We both felt something off about the entire work, we tossed it into a box and left it there. Oddly enough, we moved to El Paso TX in October '08. We spent 11 yrs in El Paso, our experience in EP were so intense, it almost seems impossible that we survived. I always knew something was up with that recording. Thank you for sharing this!!
Hey awesome video! Really appreciate the effort you put into making rhe video and also cursing your audience X) Just wanted to correct something you mentioned in the video: The band member that died, Jeremy Ward, died of a heroin overdose, which caused Cedric and Omar to quit heroin but not drugs (they still smoked weed and did LSD and things like that). I think Cedric didn't completely quit drugs until 2009 when he joined the Church of Scientology
I saw them in 09, and they were clean. Omar said something about not even drinking (alcohol) while on tour.
Televators is the 1st song I've heard by them. I was instantly.... "Huh? What?! Who's this? Where's their albums?". Don't know how I missed out on them when they were first breaking ground. One of my top 3 favs of all time.
soothsayer was my favorite on that album
Great video! I’m a huge mars volta fan and am currently buying all the individual records from their website. I got the bedlam of goliath on vinyl too.
Have you ever listened to the album? If not i highly recvomend it, the energy on this album is absolutely visceral and punches your face in and knocks your teeth out from the first song to the last.
That’s cool! I’m really happy to see that fans of the band seem to like the video, as someone outside of the fan base I wanted to be respectful and just retell the story as I found it in my own way. I am working my way through the album now! Another subscriber made me an “intro to the Mars Volta” playlist and I’m making my through it!
This album I might need some extra time with, as my paranoia gets the best of me lol
@@howdyimvictoria awesome! How are you Liking the music?
Fun breakdown. Subbed. Looking forward to your future content.
Hope you get around to doing something about radiohead and outrun the sunlight.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it, happy to have you. Any topics in particular regarding those two groups you’d like to hear about? I’m familiar with Radiohead but not super closely, and I haven’t checked out Outrun the sunlight but I will be now. Curious to know what you’d be interested in seeing as someone more familiar with them.
@@howdyimvictoria well I watched some of your covers (great!) and karna police would make a good addition to your collection.
I've been digging outrun the sun light a lot since I heard their album terrapin and it's the first time I was introduced to soundscapes. Sober, I could close my eyes and visualize the album. I'm not really 'genre’ minded, yet there's something about this band and others, like tesseract and northlane, that can make visual instrumentals. Unfortunately for me I can't even snap my fingers to jingle bells. So, it's difficult to describe how the music makes me feel. You, however, seem to have a wealth of knowledge and passion for music. I thought maybe you can help me understand why I can see an entire visual narrative listening to an outrun the sunlight album but, regretfully, a Tom Jones (even electronic or jazz) album doesn't have the same effect.
I appreciate you for following up.
TBIG leaked before it's release, which was unlucky, but atleast they one a grammy for Wax Simulacra. What a great and insane album
dope video cool af and I haven't even watched it yet good job
I just saw The Mars Volta last week in Boston, unbelievable show. However they didn't play any music from the bedlam album.
I dont think they ever will again lol. Too many bad memories I imagine. Live Nation listed their last concert from 2012 where they played “Goliath,” so I dont think itll happen tbh
I listen to this album all the time, totally forgot the fascinating way they made it. Excellent video!
Dude your accent is amazing!
It’s an incredible album, best of TMV by far. I refrained myself to listen to it complete and / or track list order as weird things happen on the following days, so either I pick up my fav songs, or play it in random order
Summoning entities and music go hand and hand, since they both come from the same dimension.
I just woke up from a dream. Sitting in a group of people , Indian style. They were all singing the televator’s chorus. “ you should have see… etc…. Only this manupod crescent in shape has escaped… then I woke up. I have always loved these guys. Something about that dream put me off.. I woke up and have been doing some digging. Which lead me here. Very interesting how things work. The dream is one of those dreams that you won’t forget anytime soon. May god be with you all.
a primeira vez que ouvi esse disco, pensei "definitivamente tem algo pesado aqui além da música". Tenho a sensibilidade de uma pedra pra coisas espirituais mas, mesmo no auge do meu ceticismo, sempre penso "que coisa maravilhosa, horrorosa e demoníaca é esse álbum". ♥
I remember buying this album back in my teen years when it released. Listened to it many times, and the weirdest I have experienced is losing the DVD that it came with , I remember it slipped out the jewel case and rolled under my bed. I went to look for it, moved the bed and rearranged everything, and it never showed up..I have no idea where it could have gotten to.
Wonderful video, Victoria! I love this album with my life and it is my favorite from them since I first listened to it (and The Mars Volta) at my 14s. I knew about the heavy occult weight the album had behind it but not this whole context. It is quiet good. I'm the kind to be very skeptical about this things but I kinda feel the eerie vibes from the album and I personally love it. It soothes(sayer?) my restless mind. My theory could be that they were manifesting all this. Poltergeist kinda deal. Suggestion can be very powerful and more when a lot of people are involved and aware of it. It is as fantastical of a possibility as what you told but still. Fun to make theories around it.
Already subbed! and also your eye shadow looks so cute! Orange is for sure your colour, girl :3
2:44 Damn, Lol that should've served as a bad sign, but no, they just kept going! BTW, my favorite songs on the album are "Ilyena", "Goliath" (mainly the songs latter half), "Tourniquet Man" and Ouroboros.
"Goliath" has an inhuman amount of energy as a song. It's not normal, it's alien, out of this plane, or whatever we call it, you feel a PRESENCE. That shit REALLY scares me when in hits the final part with the "never heard a man speak like this man before", I can only wonder who that dude is, but I KNOW he's up to no good. The energy level is insane at that point and he is in charge. Freaky shit. But I love it.
Check out the Dave Elitch drum cam vid from a festival gig, superhuman performance!
This record is incredible, earthshaking and terrifying. One for the ages.
many years ago i was going through a deep depression... That's when i listen this album for the first time, and it's when odd shit started, like i felt that someone of something was with me everyday, everynight to this day, i don't feel alone in the dark anymore
This is my favourite TMV album and I was completely unaware of the story surrounding the record!
Huge Mars Volta fan oh my god thank god this video is a thing
its awesome to hear some of the details i lacked, be shared in this video. Also, The Mars Volta is back together and touring with a new line up of 3 girls filling in the drums, bass, and keyboard. I saw them live last year and it was incredible!
I have this album on vinyl. It came with a ouija board. I dont mess with the ouija aspect of it but I've listened to the records many times. I get only good vibes and enjoyment while listening.
I heard about this before and also heard that listening to it keeps the entity under control. It's fine to listen. I actually love it.
Fantastic video.
I think trauma and the power of suggestion can be a powerful thing.
You missed the part where they recorded a spirit coming to life inside the recording equipment and added it to Conjugal Burns.
Cool story, maybe my favourite album of theirs too. Thanks x
Im intrigued, amazed and maybe in love amd its only 1 min into the video
I've listened to that album and all the others so many times over and never heard of this story, super interesting!
yeah yeah sure... the spirit within the board and all that. true story bro! i'll tell you how this album was written: cedric and omar were listening to music, one king crimson song came up and they were like "hey, we can make an entire album out of this sound"
My interest in their stuff faded after Amputechture, so I never gave this album much of a chance, but now I think that I should.
This reason is one of the reasons I don't fuck with ouija boards.
It's the album that got me into The Mars Volta, my favorite band and the only "professional" concert I've ever been to, and I look up to it as a fantastic "easier to consume" TMV album. My 3 favorites in order are Frances, De-loused and Bedlam :)
They're back now btw.
Honestly great album, helped me finish out my senior year of high school. I had the medalian pendant merch, it was a USB drive & you'd update it bi-weekly with new videos an pictures but never got all of it because I had to use the schools internet because mine was dial up still 😂 but after watching this I wonder if this album had carried a dark cloud off an on for me then. Still many track's i love off it, and seen them in 09 at Roo which melted my face off and was amazing. Sorry kinda long run on sentences but throughly love & enjoy the videos & your general vibe 🤘
The Mars Volta is easily one of the greatest bands of the 2000s . I’d love to see them live