Complete Off-Grid Solar System With Batteries for Homes - EG4 6000XP for $12,340
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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In this video, I'm diving deep into the setup of a large, complete off-grid solar system with batteries, specifically featuring the EG4 6000XP. We have 10kWh of daily power consumption, which requires 30kWh of battery storage and 7200W of solar panels.
Whether planning to power a whole house off-grid or just looking for a reliable backup, this guide has all the details you'll need, from pricing to installation.
What You'll Learn:
Daily Power Consumption: Understand the energy needs of a typical off-grid home and how to plan your solar setup efficiently.
Load Calculation: Using my custom load calculator, I'll show you how to determine the exact capacity your off-grid system will require, ensuring you have sufficient power even on the cloudiest days. Link to the calculator: cleversolarpow...
Sizing the Solar Array: Learn how to optimally size and connect solar panels to maximize the 6000XP's capacity and keep your batteries charged.
Battery and Wiring Essentials: Learn to choose the right battery size and wiring for safe and efficient energy storage.
Cost Breakdown: I'll share the total cost of setting up a complete off-grid solar system, giving you insights on how to plan your budget effectively.
Additional information: From adding a generator for extra reliability to grounding, and how to integrate this system as a backup to your grid-tied setup. Video to wiring the off-grid inverter with an interlock: • Easy DIY Home Backup S...
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Where is your link to fellow UA-camr Ray regarding the UL rated AC disconnect/ transfer switch?
Thanks for this video. I'm Midwestern US with reliable grid, but we do have storms. The record ice storm is 7 days no power and on gas generator. Very difficult to find fuel station open.
Starting out with a 6000xp and 1 48v battery for longer term emergency well water for us and livestock. More batts and some panels as funds allow.
Just got your book. Like how its starting with basic equation and tool descriptions. No talking above the solar novice.
Thanks for getting the book. For emergency power the EG4 6000XP is a great choice. One server rack will be okay for the beginning. If you don't use the inverter, then turning it off will save power because of idle consumption. If you don't need 6000W output, then look into the smaller EG4 3kW hybrid inverter.
fabulous, great detail. I'm planning a small system for my detached garage, to charge my Mustang with 240v and some woodworking equipment. My plan 4 Jinko 390W for $560, 2 EG4 48V 100AH batteries for $2,800 and the EG4 6000XP for $1,500, parts estimated around $700 for a total $5,560. Thanks again.
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Great video. I did a similar system and took my house off grid.
12 550w panels
1 6000XP
1 Powerpro
Ground mount
All in at 8K
It would take 10years before it paid for itself here, by which time it might all need replacing.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You should educate yourself before making uneducated comments.
@OH2023-cj9if well it depends on how much it cost for power a month .
Thanks for your comment! What is your daily consumption?
Dave can you post a video of ur system and what you can run with it?
I spent 23000 USD, 8kw inverter, 48kw battery,12kw solar, 9kw generator with 180 hours per tank which I haven't used since the day after I replaced the faulty inverter, Jinko 465watt panels that produce 105 watts in overcast with a peak of 569w. I use 14.6 kw a day. 6kw for fridge, freezer, lights, cpu tv modem, and 8.6 kw for a 350-watt heater. Really cold days I add 1kw with 2 short 20 min blasts with the 1500watt heater +6c. The 1500w heater can eat up 36kw a day solo. If it snows where you live, vertical mount south facing bi facial solar is the way to go.
Thanks for sharing your system with us Bob!
Also you don't need the transfer switch with 6000xp, if you have grid available for backup you just add it to the grid connection in the inverter for any power you need over what your system can supply
Thank you for calculating the previous question i asked for.
Thank you for the instruction videos. I am just starting to go through them. I have 1700W in solar panels and I would like to supplement the house using them with a 48V battery system with no feed back to the grid. But I would like the option to use the grid to charge the batteries if necessary. Here in the state of Georgia we get plenty of sun and cloudy days.
Make sure when you size your wire the ocpd is rated for that temperature many are only rated at 75 degrees
Overcurrent protection devices are not rated for a specific temperature. The wires are. I always recommend using welding cables, and i have linked them in the description. However, i think you mean that the wire have different temperature ratings, which is true. Lower temperature rating means less current carrying capacity.
Thank you for reminding me about the importents about ohm's law. Your videos get me back on track, and i get inspired to make my own charger control with scraps laying around. Greatt videos :)
Glad the videos are helping you out.
Thanks, Nick
You can cut the cost of the batteries in half, if you buy the cells individually, and build the rack mounted system yourself. You buy the cells, top balance them, put 'em together, attach the BMS and you have an EG4 rack mounted battery.
Indeed, but that's not for everybody. I have made a video on the cost analysis between diy and buying batteries.
Great video. I'm looking for an inverter that is not grid tied (no need to sell back power to the utility).
What I'm looking for is support for and auto switching between:
Normal mode: utility >> eg4-18kpv >> home panel
Outage mode: utility >> utility outage >> eg4-18kpv >> generator >> battery >> home panel
Solar panels are not going to work well (too much shade), so I'm focusing on a smooth transition from the local utility to small battery w/ a generator for battery recharge. Any recommendations for this kind of setup?
I intend to add a ground rod at the array and only connect pos/neg wires to inverter. If lightning struck the array or frame I'd want to keep it isolated and not have it go through the inverter.
You should not add a second grounding rod to reduce earthing loops. When a lightning strike hits your panels, they are fried and the PV cables going into the eg4 and the eg4 itself as well. Lightning protection is something completely different than grounding/bonding. You cannot protect your system with a ground rod and earth wire.
This is a GREAT video. Thanks!!
At $0.15/kwh, I calculate a payout of about 16 years with a low return on investment. In the cases where you are far from the grid, this off grid solution could make sense. While the panels will last 20 years with minimal degradation in performance, the inverter is only warranted for 5 years and the batteries for 5-10 years with a pro-rata warranty.
This is for off-grid, not grid-tied. Off-grid electricity will be more expensive than the utility. If you are grid-tied, I recommend the setup in my video 'load shedding solutions'
Whats the cost of hookup in a neighboorhood plus the monhtly service charges. Example being if you opay $150 a month and it cost $3k for a hook up. First year on a grid application would cost you $4800. In my area it was going to cost my $18-20k just to bring power onto our ranch and then I estimated a monthly bill of $100-150 averages so $1200+ a year first year would be $19,200+ making it 100% worth us going straight solar for $20k I can pump out 75-100 amps 240 with massive battery backup
Well Done Nick. I Have requested several times for your free diagram but I am yet to see any in my email box. After filling the form I do get the feedback that it has been sent to my mail but I did not receive it in my inbox or spam.
That's weird. Please send me an email through my contact form on my website and I will send them to you manually.
@@cleversolarpower Okay
Hello from South Carolina
Great video. I am about to install a similar setup without the generator . What are the breaker and fuse requirements?
All discussed in the video.
Good info.
thanks you
Please make a video for off grid setup to run 2000 watt hairdryer and deep freezer 200 liter and laptop
This is awesome!, Can I use the same diagram for a creek I have running through my property? Just replacing the solar panels?
💕💕💕 your videos buddy, Thank you!
Glad you like them!
@@cleversolarpower I have a solar powered well pump 600 watts trying to add batteries or a battery for night time, 2 - 325 watt panels with submersible pump, 12 Volt 100 ah lithium ion battery, NASH pump and control, can you give me an idea of what I need to do to get this going? thanks
Hey boss. These are just the calculations I needed. Thanks for the explanation! I’m building a larger electrical mobile unit out of an enclosed trailer I’ve converted to be powered by the 6000xp with 10.2kwh server no alternator charge tied. My biggest question is grounding the system in a mobile application with no grid tie. Is grounding to the frame fine because of wood blocks and rubber tires. Or do I need to tie the ground to a rod at every location. I’m worried times I’ll be around pavement only. Thanks again boss!!
Thank you for a well instructed video, but it doesn't answer my problem, In the future I will be installing, not myself, a DC to DC off grid system for my wife in Thailand, and I would be interested in knowing how many solar panels it would need to run the air-condition for day and night and also the batteries I would need, I'm sorry I can't work out all these figures as I don't understand all the different figures you quote and can't get any details of the working figures. Part of the problem is that I am in Spain and the internet just doesn't seem capable of giving me the WWW.
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How do you connect the two-wire start/stop connections on the inverter to the ATS on that generator?
You need an inverter with an auto start stop functions. The cheaper generators don't have this. Look into Kohler generators.
Thankyou sir
Hi, I would like to build a system in stages, do to limited finances . First I need to run a large refrigerator freezer and a well pump ( 1.6 hp ) . I was thinking a 6000 inverter. How many panels and batteries do you advise I start with? I live in Sicily.
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why do you need 2 series of 7 panels? is it because the mppt cannot tolerate that much voltage?
Exactly, the MPPT can only handle a certain amount of input voltage.
Doesn't your calculations for the 540W Solar panels need to account for bifacial gain?
I would have thought that we'd need to use 675Wp from the spec sheet to determine the max input into the inverter?
Good comment. I have not accounted for bifacial gain. Because i want to use the 'worst case scenario'. Most bifacial panels are not mounted in a way the rear side harvests irradiance. The bifacial gain would be 'extra' power as a bonus.
@@cleversolarpower Okay, thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure. I'm a bit confused by the PV panel values used in the video vs the spec sheet (video/spec): Voc=48.57/49.49, Vmp=41.49/40.91, Isc=13.70/13.87 jinkosolar.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/EAGLE-72HM-G5b-JKM525-545M-72HL4-TV-F1-US-3.pdf
@@cleversolarpower Thanks for answering my question on the bifacial gain! I'm trying to figure out why the specs your video are not matching the values I found in Jinko's specs (video/Jinko): Voc=48.57/49.49, Vmp=41.49/40.91, Isc=13.70/13.87. jinkosolar.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/EAGLE-72-G5b-JKM525-545M-72HL4-TV-F35-F3-US-2.pdf
would be great if you could do a very basic description of the small and medium setups sometime if possible
Can you let me know through email what your daily consumption is? That way I can work something out.
I vote for small/medium system
What is the “x 1.25” in the calculation accounting for?
Safety guidelines
I follow you with interest and I have a question. do you know the market penetration of photovoltaic panels with multijunction cells?. and if they can be bought from a certain distributor.
They are more efficient (40%), but that comes at a price. I don't know if they are available as well, so I'm making assumptions here. The market would be very small because it would be cheaper to have two 100W monocrystalline panels instead of one 100W multijunction panel.
I grounded my solar panel frames and rails at a ground rod at array seperate from all the rest of my system, is this wrong?
Yes, you can create grounding loops. It should go to your main grounding rod.
Is the Total cost in USD?
Thanks for sharing.
Yes USD.
What is the 1.25 multiplier against Voc? I did not hear you mention it's purpose or where it comes from.
It's a safety factor for cold weather. If it's sunny and cold, the voltage can go over the rated Voc. Because the panels are rated at 1000W/m² at 25°C (77°F). Sometimes conditions are better, like a cold sunny day in winter. If the voltage is too high, the MPPT will get damaged. So we have to factor this in for the few days a year this might happen.
@@cleversolarpower thank you
This video is about 2 months old, what you ain't telling people is that you could just get 32xEVE 304/314Ah cells and 2x DIY battery box for it.. That would cost you not even half the price of the battery you are suggesting or well selling. A battery pack like this would cost around 3k usd or less...
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Hello I need your help my charger controller is not charging the battery am using a 300w solar panel and a 200 ah battery
Is the solar panel voltage higher than the battery voltage? Did you configure your charge controller correctly? Is your battery full?
Do you have any of these products, or do you just make videos with images?
I don't have access to EG4 equipment as I'm based in Belgium, Europe. I did my research on the 6000XP. Here, we mainly work with Victron and Pylontech for off-grid.
I think this is a great and useful video! I live in a fairly suitable area and have plenty of sunshine here on Eastern Long Island. Yes I have very reliable grid power here even though it's about $.42 per Kwh. Even though "payoff" and therefore return on investment would probably be minimal for me it just seems to be the right thing to do. My main objective would be to lower my Carbon Footprint.
You can get second hand solar panels and a string inverter without batteries. You can then offset your electricity consumption with a feed in tariff.
I would never install one of these high frequency, transformerless inverters in my off grid home. They offer much poorer surge capacities and shorter life expectancies than more reliable, low frequency, transformer based inverters.
Yes, low frequency inverters are also more expensive. Not for everyone.
@@cleversolarpower Not anymore. Because of recent technological advancements and competition in the market, even a higher performance, longer lasting, 6kW low frequency inverter cost only about $300 more than a high frequency inverter
There's NOTHING clever about spending 12-14 grand on solar. Unsubbed.
This is a channel for off grid solar when bringing in power lines is expensive or impossible. Sad to see you go 🫡
Please for countries where power is so erratic, spending such to have 24hours power supply is more than necessary...
Maybe not if you have a house in the UK with a mains supply as you end up paying more over 10years - but if you lived somewhere remote, this is a really good idea. I would set up water powered generator, wind and solar and maybe run an old diesel generator on vegetable oil.
I do think many UK homes could do without a mains supply and just have a system like this.
I use very efficient devices. I also use gas for heating, which is far cheaper than electric heat pumps.
Great job