I think you should have mentioned Loeb's age at some point. He was 35 in 2009 when he got his 5th WRC Drivers Championship. That's older than when Damon Hill joined F1.
Nah, quality rarely works on YT. 90% of all F1 fans just want to hear the same old "driver X is awesome!" and "driver Y is amazing this season!". There are plenty of YT channels catering to the needs of these people. If you want to attract lots of viewers you have to go for the lowest common denominator - i.e. be loud, insert rapid clips to hold the attention of the ADHD-generation and let all your opinions be subjective.
My takeaway from his uncompetitive gp2 test was more that the car was crap and/or poorly set up. He's shown he has impressive pace in an F1 car. He's shown he's highly adaptable to different types of car and racing styles. I think, had he got into F1 a few years earlier and had some more time to get comfortable and physically prepared for the g-forces etc, he'd have been right up the pointy end of the mid field by the end of his first season, at least in terms of raw pace. Dude can drive the wheels off anything. Race wins and titles? Maybe not. That's more the territory of people with insane racecraft who have been racing karts since they were out of nappies.
You are quite wrong about Leo Kinnunen. He was sports car legend that had driven some junior formula races prior to sporting prototypes and he also drove some rallies. Most of the rallies outside of WRC. Some rallies that would later on become WRC rallies once WRC actually started, but mostly Finnish amateur rallies outside of Interserie and other sports car races.
The SL’s been around for years. IMO, the FIA’s new super license system is just a racket (it was already extremely expensive) that makes rich kids/sponsors spend more + keeps out super talented, very young drivers. As we’ve seen countless times, age doesn’t matter if you’ve got the talent. Speaking to how much of a racket it is to ensure maximum participation in their series, the FIA gives F2 way more weight in the points system than the IRL lesson. You also have to pay thousands of dollars for each point on the license.
Well, Lewis Hamilton and yourself in the piece about Vincenzo Sospiri, mentioned that without a solid financial support,🤑 from either your own millionaire family or sponsors, you can be a good potential F1 driver, but you ain’t getting a seat to show it.
Also true. But think of the all the media exposure and sponsor interest you would get if you hired the most successful rally driver in the world to your team!
I believe that the character, technique and intelect necessary to be succesful in Formula 1 was present within Loeb, however circumstances and time were not in his favour.
I'm sure he could have done it, being a competitive F1 driver that is, but not in that way. But with a proper warning, so that he could train his body, with full pre season testing and the knowledge, that he'd get a full season or two to adapt, and all that maybe five years earlier. Why not? He has proven multiple times that he knows how to drive different cars, he's proven multiple times, that he know how to win and to be a champion. Not to say, that he would have been F1 champion, but I'd guess that it takes a certain mindset to pull of what he did and that it isn't to far from what you need to fight your way to the top in F1. My guess would be, that in that one race talked about in the video, he wouldn't have done all that great, but in the right circumstances, in a proper try for an F1 career, he could have ended up somewhere between beeing a Jean Alesi and an Alain Prost^^ Again... Why not? :)
It's just to expensive. In only my first season of karting I spend RM 25,000 in this year and one of my friends is spending RM 380,000 a year with a 100 test days.
It was probably a bunch of old boys club Dbags that didnt want a rally driver to drive in F1 and do well, because then it would make everybody question "F1 drivers being the greatest drivers in the world" or whatever.
He shouldn’t have agreed to test for a crappy GP2 team. Many pros do much better in F1 than F2. Happens all the time. Montoya wasn’t that strong in F2, but was super strong the first time he tested an F1 car and when he went to CART which had similar power/weight. He liked a really powerful, loose rear end (he loved Williams’ BMW engine and hated the McLaren’s Mercedes engine which he called a torqueless wonder). More recently, Lawson was very mediocre in F2 and seemed quite solid in F1.
What I’ve learned: if you want your kid to be one of the best drivers on earth, name him Sebastian.
If you want your kid to drive for Red Bull name him Sebastian... Sebastian Loeb,Sebastian Vettel.....Sebastien Bourdais...Sebastian Buemi
@@mrbungle3310 sebastien ogier
Last time ROC was won by Loeb and Runner up Vettel 😉
@@mrbungle3310 shoutout to Bourdais tho, so glad I can see him compete in person in the US
how did bro remember Sebastian beumi but not ogier😭💀
I think you should have mentioned Loeb's age at some point. He was 35 in 2009 when he got his 5th WRC Drivers Championship. That's older than when Damon Hill joined F1.
How come this channel only has 682 subscriber? His videos are excellent!
Thank you Nicolas!
This channel Is gonna blow up soon
Nah, quality rarely works on YT. 90% of all F1 fans just want to hear the same old "driver X is awesome!" and "driver Y is amazing this season!". There are plenty of YT channels catering to the needs of these people. If you want to attract lots of viewers you have to go for the lowest common denominator - i.e. be loud, insert rapid clips to hold the attention of the ADHD-generation and let all your opinions be subjective.
another great video about a very rare topic. Thank you. Amazing Job!
Thanks - probably horribly dated in quality compared to the newer videos, but I'm glad you enjoyed it!
What a great channel you have! compliments!!!!
Thank you Eduard!
My takeaway from his uncompetitive gp2 test was more that the car was crap and/or poorly set up.
He's shown he has impressive pace in an F1 car. He's shown he's highly adaptable to different types of car and racing styles.
I think, had he got into F1 a few years earlier and had some more time to get comfortable and physically prepared for the g-forces etc, he'd have been right up the pointy end of the mid field by the end of his first season, at least in terms of raw pace. Dude can drive the wheels off anything.
Race wins and titles? Maybe not. That's more the territory of people with insane racecraft who have been racing karts since they were out of nappies.
It would have been fascinating to see what could've happened, likewise with Valentino Rossi in F1 too!
@@TheMobileChicane can you make a video on him
@@King_droid4908 I'll do it for a 10k subscribers special 😃
One thing is for sure, he would not be a disappointment in F1.
Anyway, if you are looking for the best driver ever, look no further !
Agreed - Im not french and i LOVE watching him race.. can’t say that about anyone else..
Love these kind of videos
Thanks Tim!
the fact that sebastien loeb and valentino rossi both came close to potentially getting into formula one within a few years is crazy
I didn't even knew he pushed for this. At the time then, I thought that he made the test and decided that this is not the way to go.
You need to talk more about his rallying career or rallying or other racing in general. Wanna know the knowledge outside of F1.
You in the video forgot to mention that not only kimi or kubica but also Valteri bottas also have done rallying and won it
Another great video, I hope you get some more views and subscribers.
You are quite wrong about Leo Kinnunen. He was sports car legend that had driven some junior formula races prior to sporting prototypes and he also drove some rallies. Most of the rallies outside of WRC. Some rallies that would later on become WRC rallies once WRC actually started, but mostly Finnish amateur rallies outside of Interserie and other sports car races.
Hes a legend,but if he went younger to F1 maybe he could have made history
He made history tho
The SL’s been around for years. IMO, the FIA’s new super license system is just a racket (it was already extremely expensive) that makes rich kids/sponsors spend more + keeps out super talented, very young drivers. As we’ve seen countless times, age doesn’t matter if you’ve got the talent.
Speaking to how much of a racket it is to ensure maximum participation in their series, the FIA gives F2 way more weight in the points system than the IRL lesson. You also have to pay thousands of dollars for each point on the license.
Well, Lewis Hamilton and yourself in the piece about Vincenzo Sospiri, mentioned that without a solid financial support,🤑 from either your own millionaire family or sponsors, you can be a good potential F1 driver, but you ain’t getting a seat to show it.
Also true. But think of the all the media exposure and sponsor interest you would get if you hired the most successful rally driver in the world to your team!
I believe that the character, technique and intelect necessary to be succesful in Formula 1 was present within Loeb, however circumstances and time were not in his favour.
I'm sure he could have done it, being a competitive F1 driver that is, but not in that way. But with a proper warning, so that he could train his body, with full pre season testing and the knowledge, that he'd get a full season or two to adapt, and all that maybe five years earlier.
Why not? He has proven multiple times that he knows how to drive different cars, he's proven multiple times, that he know how to win and to be a champion. Not to say, that he would have been F1 champion, but I'd guess that it takes a certain mindset to pull of what he did and that it isn't to far from what you need to fight your way to the top in F1.
My guess would be, that in that one race talked about in the video, he wouldn't have done all that great, but in the right circumstances, in a proper try for an F1 career, he could have ended up somewhere between beeing a Jean Alesi and an Alain Prost^^ Again... Why not? :)
It's just to expensive. In only my first season of karting I spend RM 25,000 in this year and one of my friends is spending RM 380,000 a year with a 100 test days.
Eternal missery to everyone who worked to deny Loeb that start at Abu Dhabi.
It was probably a bunch of old boys club Dbags that didnt want a rally driver to drive in F1 and do well, because then it would make everybody question "F1 drivers being the greatest drivers in the world" or whatever.
How come you only have two videos yet?
video number three coming very soon!
@@TheMobileChicane yaay 🤩
He shouldn’t have agreed to test for a crappy GP2 team. Many pros do much better in F1 than F2. Happens all the time. Montoya wasn’t that strong in F2, but was super strong the first time he tested an F1 car and when he went to CART which had similar power/weight. He liked a really powerful, loose rear end (he loved Williams’ BMW engine and hated the McLaren’s Mercedes engine which he called a torqueless wonder). More recently, Lawson was very mediocre in F2 and seemed quite solid in F1.
Nobody:
Absolutely Nobody:
Not even Lewis complaining about his tires:
Red Bull in 09: *Seb*
Schumacher > Rossi > Loeb
Legends in their own disciplines
Sebastian Weber, omg rofl
I still don't understand why the FIA refused his superlicence.
What ever happened to five years racing expirience? People don't like a guy who is more talented.
Wonder why you need a driving license?
To unlock the gate that theyre keeping prolly