How i love to listen to these games, and John Madden. He was so good at what he did....never heard anyone that could hold a candle to him since those days.
Ken Gelman so do you have the 86 Giants game when the Giants blew the Eagles out 35-3, you know the one Was telling you about the other day. LT had 4 sacks.
Classic football like this is the best way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend as I am now. Summerall & Madden are the best there is to call it. I'm sure both Giants & Redskins fan now (11-2019) yearn for these glory days to return (both teams are 2-9 as of 11-30-2019)
Exactly. Nothing like an afternokn at RFK. Was magical. The shadows on the field and sun soaked crowds. ..I miss them playing here. The building is still there-waiting
I remember watching this game. A great match up and era of two teams that were probably the best that year and into the early 90's. Phil Simms loved going to RFK because of the Redskin Fans Atmosphere and the derogatory comments that the Redskin fans would shout at the Giant players on the sidelines before the start of the game. He said , " They were awesome".
RIP to the great John Madden. I watch all these old games. Madden absolutely loved the game of football. You can hear the excitement in his voice throughout the game. Truly a legend
Awsome to see it like it was yesturday. One of the greatest treasure of America Redskins & GIANT'S what a rivalry between D.C..& N.Y. love to hate Eagle's,COWBOYS, REDSKINS..LOVE'M.JUAN BX N.Y. GO BIG BLUE......
If Pat Summerall and John Madden were at their peak today, no way the would do a 1pm game of a Sunday (unless the network they work for only have a single game).
Brah I will never forget my 80s GIANTS. This game here Omg I have it in my memory bank. Listen teams were uncomfortable when the schedule came out and they see they have a game with the GIANTS. Quarter backs were getting banged up beat down. Loved it.
It's sad as a redskins fan that I have to look back 33yrs to find a skins team that was a dominant football team and the giants gave everybody hell that yr the NFC east was a powerhouse division in the 80s and early 90s tough physical football I miss this era of football not this 2019 crap👎🏾👎🏾
I believe it was the first play of the game, the Bavaro catch running down the field. . .Darrel Green caught him, and Bavaro swatted him away like a fly, lol. Bavaro was such a beast before his injury. . .
@@burtmaclinfbi3993 Yep. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Darrel Green. Not only one of the greatest corners of all time, but maybe the most dangerous punt returners of all time. Probably my 2nd favorite player after Riggins.
I heard about this game. Schroeder had an atrocious game thanks to LT and the Giants defense. I think he got picked 6 times. And I think out of all the teams Parcells had during his run in NY this 86 team was his absolute best.
@@jasperdriver8546 Really? He hung 27 on Chicago at Soldier Field in the playoffs, and had so many drops in the Championship game, primarily by Gary Clark, including at least one touchdown.
@@jasperdriver8546 Its a bit harder to do when you have one of the greatest defensive players ever killing your entire offensive line. Joe Gibbs eventually changed his entire offense because of one guy. ONE.
@@TrooperSC I think the one big game that Schroeder really stunk up was when he was with the Raiders, and lost 51-3 in the AFC Championship. I don't blame the NFC Championship loss on Schroeder. They couldn't run or pass much in the strong wind of that game. All the Giants had to do was play Giants football by holding the ball for most of the game.
My gosh these games are gold.. these were absolute dog fights. No twitter feuds between Art Monk and Elvis Patterson, no dancing like idiots after a first down. No pussy ass penalty calls. Just big tough men trying to win a championship, all guided by the best play by play team ever.
Jasper Driver DeOssie was on the 1990 team, not this one. The 1986 team; Carson , LT, Banks , Pepper, Reasons, Andy H., Byron Hunt and that's 7. If there's more I don't remember.
Awesome!!!!! thanks for uploading this game do you have the 86 Game where the Giants Destroyed the Eagles 35-3 Lawrence Taylor had his Best game of his 20.5 Sack season he recorded FOUR sacks and Seven Tackles. I think its the most dominant performance if the 86 Regular season leading up to the Giants Super Bowl run if you could upload that game next that would be Awesome!!!! thanks if you were wondering the game was week 6 on October 12 1986. Thanks!!!!!
Kids today will not understand pat summerall because he did not show alot of emotions when he spoke. Thing is back then the NFL spoke for itself and he let john Madden get the attention. These days there are no great rivalries if you ask me. Teams don't have a genuine dislike for each other. They still respected one another but how can you like your rival if you are playing one another. Be friends when the game is over. If you knock someone on there ass let them help themselves up. It's all about money now days. Back then they were payed well but they were not all millionaires. It's hard for me to follow professional sports now. I want to be a sports fan but every time I realize it's just not possible. It was a different time and it will never come back again. I always new it was temporary TBH. The thing is the NFL is getting old. Every year that goes by it gets another year old. I could care less who wins the next super bowl.
Everytime I see Jim Burt, I think of the hit he put on Joe Montana in the playoffs. It was just a few weeks after this game, at the Meadowlands. It was a brutal hit, knocking Montana out (literally KO'd him😬) of the game after the Giants had taken a huge lead.
Schroeder had a helluva an arm. Big upgrade from Joe Theismann. The Redskin offense could finally stretch defenses with that cannon of Jay's throwing to Monk, Sanders and Clark.
Brett Toombs Joe Jacoby was a pro bowlers, year in and year out. He was over 300 lbs when that was a big deal. You couldn't he more wrong when discussing offensive lines as Washington's was the best in the league .
As great as the '85 Bears defense was - the '86 Giants D were nearly as awesome - and LT always brought his brutal best against Washington - but after this season the Skins would mostly get the better of the G-men the next few years.
I don't know what you are talking about. 88,89 and 90 I'm pretty sure the Giants swept the Skins all 3 of those seasons. Outside of the strike year the Skins could not beat these guys until Parcells left. I'm saying this as a Redskins fan. These Giants teams we could not beat for 5 years essentially.
that cool ...end in this video half time show you see on screen they going to talk about Heisman winner Vinny Testaverde and Brian Bosworth .. Bosworth one of biggest bust in NFL draft ..
@@kengelman1011 dude I love your channel Ive been subscribed for years! Im looking for the Redskins Giants Championship game from 86 do you have it? Anyway you could send it to me?
Taylor had 3 sacks that day. Obviously Jacoby could not block him. Way too slow. Why the Redskins coaches failed to make blocking adjustments is a mystery. You cannot throw the football when you don't have pass protection. Simple as that.
@ken I’ll give you the tough part but this game alone Simms wasn’t accurate. If it wasn’t for Bavaro he’d really look bad. I always thought Hoss was much better.
@ken I was living in Los Angeles in 86 so I didn’t get to see many of the games that season. So some of these games I'm seeing fir the first time. I did get o the game against the raiders that year. .
Those were wars, the NFC east was the best division and it was the Giants that always gave the 49ers big headaches, Joe Montana always was abused by the giants defense.
FACTS: The Modern Player is stronger and faster then his 1980's Counterparts. What they knew about conditioning and sports science in the 80's is neanderthal compared to now. You can just compare the Measurements: Height, Weight, 40 yard and 20 yard shuttle times. Modern NFL players don't sacrifice as much agility and speed for their size and strength. Plus 70's 80's Games were clumsier, WAYYY more blooper reels. The Playbooks were as complex as my High School Varsity team. No seriously; you can download 1980's NFL Playbooks to compare. Thats the worse part of it: The Strategy was stupid; 1 or 2 Slow TE's and FBs all bunched up around the LOS; which the Defense matches with THEIR Linebackers and Linemen. There's just a pile on 60% of plays. Its stupid. It usually did not work. From 2005 and esp 2007 the NFL underwent a strategic revolution. One Back; spread the field, and even the run game opens up. Take a FB or TE off the field and they take LBs off the field. Your 5 O Linemen only have 6 in the box. Stuff 7 in the box and the Defense brought 8. Its just Stupid. Its only used as a changeup now; and it can work if the FB is a virtual TE and catches passes for 1st downs. Or else its playing offense with a hand tied behind your back.
Walter White Maybe the biggest difference is the WR. Shouldn't drop any ball they get their hands on with the gloves they have today. My son plays and i told him learn to catch w/out them first. All kids in pop warner up to H.S. are learning to catch with gloves on.
Jessi Venegas exactly and the rules have all been modified so teams can put thirty points on the board. And god forbid u hit a Brady or Rodgers a little late or low.
Todays qbs wouldve never put up 5000 or 50 tds nd last long to be 40 nd still be in the nfl L Taylor Haley R White Bruce Smith D Manley Mike Singletery Ronnie Lott Dion Sanders Darell Green nd many other great players wouldve never let that happend
Jessi Venegas imagine u could bump a receiver all the way down the field and use your head to tackle like Ben Davidson.... They'd go back to run on 1st and 2nd throw on 3rd.
How i love to listen to these games, and John Madden. He was so good at what he did....never heard anyone that could hold a candle to him since those days.
Never will
Nobody did it better than Summerall and Madden.
Absolutely iconic voices in the booth.
Thanks for posting this!
i just stumbled on this video
49ers, 'Skins, Giants and Bears...the NFC in the 80's was a great era.
Michael Bell nah, not really. too predictable
Ice J are you on drugs there were upsets every week in the NFL but the great teams were still dominant.
Absolutely, with the Eagles and Vikings never quite managing to crack the awesome foursome!
@@housinauthority5258 and you had the rams with eric dickerson as well.
And rams
Real Football. NFC East ruled from 86-93. Hell the whole NFC was a beast back then. Real NFL Football. You were actually allowed to hit people
Amen brother!
Ken Gelman so do you have the 86 Giants game when the Giants blew the Eagles out 35-3, you know the one Was telling you about the other day. LT had 4 sacks.
I do not.
Ken Gelman oh ok thats fine what other Giants games do you have from 86????
I have a few others. Will post some more soon.
48:10 John Madden explaining the pigeon on the field is the best thing ever.
Correct!!
golden era of football. never the same again. Giants skins, gibbs, shroeder, phil simms. rfk stadium. John madden, pat summerall.
Classic football like this is the best way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend as I am now. Summerall & Madden are the best there is to call it. I'm sure both Giants & Redskins fan now (11-2019) yearn for these glory days to return (both teams are 2-9 as of 11-30-2019)
Love the introduction music
Thank You Ken For This Great Game. This Was The Days Of Real Football-I am a Old Skins Fan!!-I Appreciate It!-Tom T. Germanton N.C. 27019
Simms to Bavaro touchdown. Never gets old.
Especially when Par Summerall was saying it.
Great game on a Sunday at 1PM. Nowadays they'd flex this to 8:30 at night...
Exactly. Nothing like an afternokn at RFK. Was magical. The shadows on the field and sun soaked crowds. ..I miss them playing here. The building is still there-waiting
Noeadays the crowd would be all red. Crowds now remind me of empty seats LOL. I love all the different colors in the stands
No way a Giants vs Redskins game from 1983-1990 would be played Sunday’s at 1pm today.
@@mikevanriel7573 you got that right! I am so glad to have grown up in the 70s and 80s for these games
I remember watching this game. A great match up and era of two teams that were probably the best that year and into the early 90's. Phil Simms loved going to RFK because of the Redskin Fans Atmosphere and the derogatory comments that the Redskin fans would shout at the Giant players on the sidelines before the start of the game. He said , " They were awesome".
Two of my favorite players in this game.
Harry Carson and Monte Coleman.
I remember this game, it was huge. Of course they would meet again in the Meadowlands in the NFC Championship.
This game was basically for the #1 seed in the nfc!
RIP to the great John Madden. I watch all these old games. Madden absolutely loved the game of football. You can hear the excitement in his voice throughout the game. Truly a legend
Awsome to see it like it was yesturday. One of the greatest treasure of America Redskins & GIANT'S what a rivalry between D.C..& N.Y. love to hate Eagle's,COWBOYS, REDSKINS..LOVE'M.JUAN BX N.Y. GO BIG BLUE......
If Pat Summerall and John Madden were at their peak today, no way the would do a 1pm game of a Sunday (unless the network they work for only have a single game).
This was the shit right here. I normally don’t say things like this, but this gives me chills.
If Tom Brady had played in the 1980s, he may not have lasted long.
Brah I will never forget my 80s GIANTS. This game here
Omg I have it in my memory bank. Listen teams were uncomfortable when the schedule came out and they see they have a game with the GIANTS. Quarter backs were getting banged up beat down. Loved it.
This is where LT won the NFL MVP that day.
Pretty much.
This was the game where Parcells told Phil Simms, “They hate us so much here… they love us.”
It's sad as a redskins fan that I have to look back 33yrs to find a skins team that was a dominant football team and the giants gave everybody hell that yr the NFC east was a powerhouse division in the 80s and early 90s tough physical football I miss this era of football not this 2019 crap👎🏾👎🏾
Both teams were 11-2 !
This was the peak of NFL football at its best
Fun fact: both of Jay Schroeder's backup quarterbacks in this game would later become Super Bowl MVPs.
Yep. I never felt sorry for Jay Schroeder, ever. He was a colossal asshole.
I believe it was the first play of the game, the Bavaro catch running down the field. . .Darrel Green caught him, and Bavaro swatted him away like a fly, lol. Bavaro was such a beast before his injury. . .
Chris Kavanagh Bavaro was the Gronk of the 80’s..
Guy didn’t say two words, just kicked peoples ass.
And yet on the third play of the game, that very same Darrell Green picked off Phil Simms.
@@burtmaclinfbi3993 Yep. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Darrel Green.
Not only one of the greatest corners of all time, but maybe the most dangerous punt returners of all time.
Probably my 2nd favorite player after Riggins.
I heard about this game. Schroeder had an atrocious game thanks to LT and the Giants defense. I think he got picked 6 times. And I think out of all the teams Parcells had during his run in NY this 86 team was his absolute best.
Schroeder shrunk in big games every time
@@jasperdriver8546 Really? He hung 27 on Chicago at Soldier Field in the playoffs, and had so many drops in the Championship game, primarily by Gary Clark, including at least one touchdown.
@@jasperdriver8546 Its a bit harder to do when you have one of the greatest defensive players ever killing your entire offensive line. Joe Gibbs eventually changed his entire offense because of one guy. ONE.
@@TrooperSC I think the one big game that Schroeder really stunk up was when he was with the Raiders, and lost 51-3 in the AFC Championship.
I don't blame the NFC Championship loss on Schroeder. They couldn't run or pass much in the strong wind of that game. All the Giants had to do was play Giants football by holding the ball for most of the game.
To bad for the NFL that Daniel Snyder has ruined the storied Redskins
My gosh these games are gold.. these were absolute dog fights. No twitter feuds between Art Monk and Elvis Patterson, no dancing like idiots after a first down.
No pussy ass penalty calls.
Just big tough men trying to win a championship, all guided by the best play by play team ever.
Amen
Amen!
It was crazy how deep the New York Giants were at linebacker. People forget that paper Johnson and Steve DeOssie were backups to Carson and Reasons
Nothing like today's Giants teams where LB is sadly an afterthought.
Jasper Driver DeOssie was on the 1990 team, not this one. The 1986 team; Carson , LT, Banks , Pepper, Reasons, Andy H., Byron Hunt and that's 7. If there's more I don't remember.
Awesome!!!!! thanks for uploading this game do you have the 86 Game where the Giants Destroyed the Eagles 35-3 Lawrence Taylor had his Best game of his 20.5 Sack season he recorded FOUR sacks and Seven Tackles. I think its the most dominant performance if the 86 Regular season leading up to the Giants Super Bowl run if you could upload that game next that would be Awesome!!!! thanks if you were wondering the game was week 6 on October 12 1986. Thanks!!!!!
TL2354 Yep that's the one it was Taylor's Best game of the season. He singlehandley DESTROYED the Eagles.
TL2354 Im curious do you know how many sacks LT had in each of the other games during the 1986 season
TL2354 Thanks!!!!!!
TL2354 Thanks
i believe harry carson caught a td off a fake fg during that game
Kids today will not understand pat summerall because he did not show alot of emotions when he spoke. Thing is back then the NFL spoke for itself and he let john Madden get the attention. These days there are no great rivalries if you ask me. Teams don't have a genuine dislike for each other. They still respected one another but how can you like your rival if you are playing one another. Be friends when the game is over. If you knock someone on there ass let them help themselves up. It's all about money now days. Back then they were payed well but they were not all millionaires. It's hard for me to follow professional sports now. I want to be a sports fan but every time I realize it's just not possible. It was a different time and it will never come back again. I always new it was temporary TBH. The thing is the NFL is getting old. Every year that goes by it gets another year old. I could care less who wins the next super bowl.
yawnnnnnn
Everytime I see Jim Burt, I think of the hit he put on Joe Montana in the playoffs. It was just a few weeks after this game, at the Meadowlands. It was a brutal hit, knocking Montana out (literally KO'd him😬) of the game after the Giants had taken a huge lead.
The hey day of the NFL… Sumarall and Madden were the best!!
Schroeder had a helluva an arm. Big upgrade from Joe Theismann. The Redskin offense could finally stretch defenses with that cannon of Jay's throwing to Monk, Sanders and Clark.
Man redskins oline was so good and for so long
um....did you watch this video? where LT was dominating thier LT?
Best player on the offensive line was Russ Grimm. Jacoby was decent. Mark May was average. Jeff Bostic???? Um...no. He was a marshmallow.
Yet the Giants ate them up?!!
Brett Toombs no way..they were all excellent during these years. No offensive linemen were truly effective against the Giants defense
Brett Toombs Joe Jacoby was a pro bowlers, year in and year out. He was over 300 lbs when that was a big deal. You couldn't he more wrong when discussing offensive lines as Washington's was the best in the league .
These games were brutal. No way a game like this could be played today. Yellow flags would be all over the place.
6:43 ... Darrell Green with the leaping INT
Green was a freak of nature
Do you have the NFC championship game when jim burt was celebrating with the crowd after the game?
I do. I've tried to post it about 20 times on UA-cam and it gets rejected for copyright infringement every damn time. Frustrating.
This Game was basically the Super Bowl
As great as the '85 Bears defense was - the '86 Giants D were nearly as awesome - and LT always brought his brutal best against Washington - but after this season the Skins would mostly get the better of the G-men the next few years.
I don't know what you are talking about. 88,89 and 90 I'm pretty sure the Giants swept the Skins all 3 of those seasons. Outside of the strike year the Skins could not beat these guys until Parcells left. I'm saying this as a Redskins fan. These Giants teams we could not beat for 5 years essentially.
Great game
that cool ...end in this video half time show you see on screen they going to talk about Heisman winner Vinny Testaverde and Brian Bosworth .. Bosworth one of biggest bust in NFL
draft ..
40:00 WOW,OG Bobby Johnson played football for the 1986 Giants?!?!
Steve Smith He has one of the biggest plays of that season - a 22 yard catch on 4th and 19 with under a minute left to set up the GW to beat Minne.
Scott Cordell You missed the South Central movie reference altogether 😂😂😂😂😂 There was a character who was called OG Bobby Johnson.
Oh shit killer bobby Johnson
if anybody has got the 1987 nfc playoff game between bears and redskins,and bears and redskins 1984 playoff game lets see it on youtube.
Giants defense had Schroeder confused and rattled right from the start.
1980's G-MEN were classic do you remember this game Exactly Ken?
I sure do. Monster performance from LT on one end and Simms on the other. My favorite Giants season ever!
@@kengelman1011 dude I love your channel Ive been subscribed for years! Im looking for the Redskins Giants Championship game from 86 do you have it? Anyway you could send it to me?
Again he disappoints
Bavaro!
Hell yea the niners where part of that dominance also 3 crazy head nocking pass rushers Taylor Manley Haley
Joe Jacoby AKA: Lawrence Taylor's Chew Toy.
Taylor had 3 sacks that day. Obviously Jacoby could not block him. Way too slow. Why the Redskins coaches failed to make blocking adjustments is a mystery. You cannot throw the football when you don't have pass protection. Simple as that.
i bet that pass simms throw for int in endzone first drive in this game pissed of bill Parcells
A lot of things Simms did pissed off Parcells. 😆 But Schroeder coughed it back up. So things kind of evened out.
Maybe you can chop the championship game up this way
I'll try. So far I've tried to post the NFCC game several times and every single time YT shuts me down. Frustrating.
Ken Gelman call it something different , i am subscribed 😁
Believe me, I've tried. UA-cam stops me every time. I'll try again but won't be a bit surprised if they shut it down.
Simms never disappoints to screw up
Morris fumbles constantly
13:30 Madden gives the reason the 2017 Browns went 0-16.
That Giant team was dominant despite at best having a mediocre QB in Simms.
I disagree. Simms was an elite QB back then. Tough as nails, perfect northeast QB.
@ken I’ll give you the tough part but this game alone Simms wasn’t accurate. If it wasn’t for Bavaro he’d really look bad. I always thought Hoss was much better.
@ken thanks for the videos they are great to watch. I like the commercials as well.
@ken I was living in Los Angeles in 86 so I didn’t get to see many of the games that season. So some of these games I'm seeing fir the first time. I did get o the game against the raiders that year. .
@@jwim3969 agree to disagree. Simms > Hoss for me.
Those were wars, the NFC east was the best division and it was the Giants that always gave the 49ers big headaches, Joe Montana always was abused by the giants defense.
jim burt hit montana
@@tommydangelo2479 and Leonard Marshall in the 90 NFC championship game
Move back there, charge more for tickets to make up difference and people WILL COME!
IT IS TIME.
AMEN
Schroeder was terrified of the Giants D. As well he should have been.
LT
omg..simms did everything he could to make it hard for the g-men..untill he got into the playoffs .,,lolz
HORRIBLE to Native Americans to have to take the HUMILIATION of being called "Red Skins". Thankfully, we've moved beyond that horrific society.
get a life you loser!
And for what its worth they will always be the Foreskins to me anyway! Like that one better?
FACTS: The Modern Player is stronger and faster then his 1980's Counterparts. What they knew about conditioning and sports science in the 80's is neanderthal compared to now. You can just compare the Measurements: Height, Weight, 40 yard and 20 yard shuttle times. Modern NFL players don't sacrifice as much agility and speed for their size and strength. Plus 70's 80's Games were clumsier, WAYYY more blooper reels.
The Playbooks were as complex as my High School Varsity team. No seriously; you can download 1980's NFL Playbooks to compare. Thats the worse part of it: The Strategy was stupid; 1 or 2 Slow TE's and FBs all bunched up around the LOS; which the Defense matches with THEIR Linebackers and Linemen. There's just a pile on 60% of plays. Its stupid. It usually did not work. From 2005 and esp 2007 the NFL underwent a strategic revolution. One Back; spread the field, and even the run game opens up. Take a FB or TE off the field and they take LBs off the field. Your 5 O Linemen only have 6 in the box. Stuff 7 in the box and the Defense brought 8. Its just Stupid. Its only used as a changeup now; and it can work if the FB is a virtual TE and catches passes for 1st downs. Or else its playing offense with a hand tied behind your back.
Walter White Maybe the biggest difference is the WR. Shouldn't drop any ball they get their hands on with the gloves they have today. My son plays and i told him learn to catch w/out them first. All kids in pop warner up to H.S. are learning to catch with gloves on.
You might be right but the difference is todays players are pre meddona pussies
Jessi Venegas exactly and the rules have all been modified so teams can put thirty points on the board. And god forbid u hit a Brady or Rodgers a little late or low.
Todays qbs wouldve never put up 5000 or 50 tds nd last long to be 40 nd still be in the nfl L Taylor Haley R White Bruce Smith D Manley Mike Singletery Ronnie Lott Dion Sanders Darell Green nd many other great players wouldve never let that happend
Jessi Venegas imagine u could bump a receiver all the way down the field and use your head to tackle like Ben Davidson.... They'd go back to run on 1st and 2nd throw on 3rd.