I am the founder of the Funday Pawpet Show. That September 11 episode was done at a time in which we were moving the broadcast studio from one location to the other. The equipment wasn't quite completely hooked up yet when the events of September 11 happened so when we scrambled to set things up to make a broadcast that night the recording devices were not part of the connections that were made in a rush to get to the streaming. Therefore it wasn't that there was a lack of interest in recording it, but rather that part of the gear had not been unpacked and hooked up. Unfortunately the streaming media content of those days was very lacking, so recording live streams was difficult. It was a difficult night, but people did appreciate the efforts of that night.
Recently, there has been some slight developments in the search of the BBC Sad Story of Henry. Someone managed to come in contact with a crew member of the show and provided them with key production notes, including layout arrangement, model trains used, and attempts for following episodes. While the original broadcast is most likely lost, there is at least growing information that paints a picture of what it might have been like.
@@jaidensmith9428 I'd really like to know as well. As someone whose whole childhood was Thomas it'd be really cool to see some of the props and material they used
Just wait, someday a hardcore Thomas fan is going to make a perfect, 1:1 recreation of the broadcast and upload it to UA-cam, confusing the fuck out of everyone.
The thomas the tank engine live broadcast might just be my favorite lost media story. I just can't keep myself from imagining people's reaction to seeing a train derail, then a giant hand pick it up. it must have been so brilliantly surreal. I love it.
My mom is a hoarder (not shaming her, but she admits it too). There are a BUNCH of VHS tapes where she recorded shows and movies for me as a kid in the 90s. Sometimes I like to imagine one day I'll go through them and find something lost.
I would do exactly that if i had the time to go through them. Probably the best thing you could do is upload the footage to the internet archive and have others look through it.
Honestly the more time you waste the more that stuff degrades. There’s bound to be something interesting in there, would definitely be worth your time to spend a day archiving all of it when you get the chance
The source code to Kingdom Hearts was completely lost, developers had to dig through the compiled game data in order to recreate the code in order to rerelease the game in HD. Similar thing happened to Silent Hill and it's HD Collection. It's weird to think that all the coding and work that was put into these games would just vanish.
Silent Hill collection was different. The devs tasked with it got unfinished builds of the games instead of the actual source code and had to rely on that
Hey, I’m the guy who wrote the original article on the Sad Story of Henry 1953 for the OG lost media wiki back around 2013-2014 or so. I’m always glad to see people talk about it, especially since when I write the article on it there were maybe two sources online for it, an article on Sodor Island Fansite which mentioned it in passing, and a scan of a news article I had to dig for. I should clarify that the claims of found footage or the like was not my doing, and I don’t know why people have claimed that since. I’m glad more info has since come out and I’d like to mention that within the last year there’s been further developments. Someone who preserves many props and BTS material from the later 1984 onwards show, has been in contact with a crew member who worked on the 53 pilot, and has received notes on the layout, engines, and other production details. They aren’t shared publicly yet, but it gives me hope that someday something will turn up, even if it’s just images of the broadcast
@@the4tierbridge I managed to save some of the information he provided online. The biggest thing of note is that Meccano provided a full layout and a couple of engine for promotion.
Ooo, a Railway Series illustration on the thumbnail? That draws me in. In all seriousness, I wish the BBC's 1953 Sad Story of Henry had at least one surviving production photo to at least confirm it, because even with the two newspaper articles, the idea of a live production of The Sad Story of Henry where Henry's model derails and a hand supposedly rerails it live on TV seems like something ANYONE could come up with
I guess the BBC has bad track records with recording and keeping old episodes that aired on their program, but it gets sadder than that. One piece of lost media that I want to try and find is the Appeal of June 18th which was a radio broadcast by Charles de Gaulle urging the French people to resist the German occupation. The BBC didn’t think it was important enough to be recorded but it is one of the most famous speeches of ww2. I know it’s most likely impossible but I hope a recording of the speech exists somewhere.
Paul Winchell's ventriloquism show he did before he became well known for voicing Tigger on Winnie the Pooh is sadly lost due to a dispute he was having with the producer of the show, he was demanding the rights to those tapes and the producers destroyed all of them out of pure spite, Winchell successfully sued them for millions but unfortunately his old work is pretty much gone forever as a result.
Up until his death, he was offering a reward for anyone who had copies of anything. A few clips are on UA-cam and my mom often watches them with her grandchildren but the loss of a greater archive is devastating.
Those producers are living examples of evil; if someone will not allow them to unfairly extort their own work for profit, they would prefer that this work be forever erased, essentially wiping out a segment of their legacy forever. Wtf is wrong with them?
I'm so glad you're talking about the "Sad Story Of Henry" BBC Adaption on The Railway Series's 77th birthday! Even if so many people have already talked about it.
There are also other things that should've been mentioned as well. The Sonic the Hedgehog 1990 prototype that Yuji Naka himself said was lost, and the other Super Mario World 1989 stuff and others in the gigaleak that was lost to time due to poor archival. Also, kinda unrelated, but the entire SM64 prototype repo is thought to still exist, since the iQue repo that was in the leak contained only what Nintendo gave to them. There is definitely still more of it in Nintendo's internal files.
I just wanted to drop by and tell you that the gigaleak's timing and contents are way too much of a coincidence to be unintentional. Case in point, L is Real 2401 was confirmed to be true exactly 24 years and 1 month after the game's initial release. Let that sink in.
@@MDLuffy1234YT Yeah, that was weird. By the way, we also found a complete log of all the directories for Super Mario World that were intended to be there. In the leak, there was only one dev folder, "hino". He was Nintendo's character and graphic designer, but the list also referenced other developer folders such as "tezuka" and "konno" folders. But weirdly enough, I don't think any of the files in the lost folders were logged. Either that, or they were edited out for the leak.
@@MDLuffy1234YT I'm pretty sure that the guy who actually hacked into Nintendo's archives, thought it would just be funny to send it to one of his mates to just release it on the myth's 24th birthday. From what I heard, there's still stuff being found in the leak's files, and there were actually way more leaks than just the main 2, people are just gate keeping it on Discord dms and stuff like that.
There's other lost media that will be lost forever: silent films from the late 1800s to 1920s. Cinema legends admit that 90% of silent films are completely lost. And for some of the luckiest silent movies being found after a century of searching, it's best we'll never see them again.
A lot of those, if not most were also filmed on stock notoriously open to being damaged, ruined, burned or destroyed just due to the nature of the film stock.
I'm impressed with your ability to always find new stuff & keep the topic of lost media fresh, especially since the vast majority of Lost Media fans don't seem to give a crap about anything they haven't personally seen, pre-2000s or from countries outside of America, Canada, the UK, or Japan. Personally, the older & more foreign, the more interesting it is.
Agreed. I always wanted to see what kind of cartoons the Philippines made years before The Nutshack, but unfortunately it seems that barely any of those have been preserved in any way, shape or form.
My favorite pieces of lost media are French silent films from Georges Melies made before 1910, his surviving films are beautiful and it saddens me that most of his work is lost to time.
The piece of lost media I personally want to find is a tape that UNICEF made in collaboration with the cast of Degrassi Junior High, a forgotten Canadian 1980s high school show that got a better-known reboot in the 2000s starring a young Drake. The tape was apparently released to schools across Canada in 1989, and one or two copies are known to exist in an Ontario university (non-loanable, meaning it can only be used inside the library). Apart from that, it's never been available online, and was barely mentioned in the slightest. The "forgotten" part is the main hurdle, unfortunately. Degrassi is a pretty niche franchise already, being in a genre that a lot of people tend to ridicule and that is less appealing to the lost media crowd than kids shows/cartoons. Add the fact that the original 80s version is significantly less known and remembered outside of the narrow Canadian Generation X'ers who admitted to watching and liking it makes the chances of bringing attention to the search little to none. Me and a few people have searched really hard for it, but have come up with virtually nothing except some old UNICEF brochures that mention the video and an eight second clip from some documentary, which for obvious reasons was a great find, but that was over a year ago. It's always made me sad that a simple lack of interest can contribute to media becoming lost.
Most older video games no longer have source code. I don't know when it became the norm to save source code, but it was probably as recently as the PS2/XBox 360 era. Prior to that, if your company name wasn't Nintendo then you didn't save source code. For various reasons. Lack of storage capacity, lack of interest in preservation (for most of the time that video games have existed, nobody thought they would be anything people would care about after their initial release), and security (to keep someone from stealing the source and creating pirated versions of the game or stealing tech) have all been cited. So singling out any one game for "lost source code" is probably a bit superfluous. It's like picking out one snowflake on a mountaintop. It's kind of pointless. However, lost source code for games that were completed, but never released? Now that's a different topic. One of my personal holy grails is the expansion for Ultima VIII: Pagan called _The Lost Vale._ The expansion was complete and so close to release that game boxes were even printed, though most of them ended up destroyed when the expansion was cancelled as a result of EA acquiring Origin Systems, Inc. One surviving box (confirmed authentic) sold on eBay in 2005 for almost $2000. People who worked on the project said manuals had been printed as well and the master had been sent out to be stamped onto CDs, but that the order was cancelled before any discs were produced. After EA acquired Origin, whatever remained of the source for that expansion seems to have been discarded from all accounts. It's quite likely that it's lost forever. The source for Ultima VIII itself still exists in the hands of former Origin employees. One anonymous ex-Origin dev reached out to the devs of a fan project to remaster Ultima VIII for modern hardware and offered them the complete source code to the original game. They declined, for legal reasons. But it's good to know that it still exists somewhere and might see the light of day eventually. But the expansion? Seems gone forever.
Heck, not just source code to video games. Video games IN GENERAL. I know that sounds like a bit of a stretch considering how many video games from the 80s & 90s we have preserved, but beneath all of those are the games that got released & put on store shelves for sale or were mail order titles, sold very poorly & ultimately will likely never be found despite the games being released. And that number is only growing more & more, even if one of those games eventually gets found & preserved.
@@btd6pro693 Not really. With A LOT OF EFFORT, the compiled output can be reverse engineered into something sort of resembling the original source code, but it won't be exactly the same. Even if successful, the output will be missing a lot of context that the original source code would have had, such as comments and variable names.
@@ExtremeWreck That's true enough. Luckily, there are relatively few games known to have actually been produced, distributed, and sold that are considered lost. Even some of the most obscure Atari 2600 games that you had to order from the classified ads in only one specific city in the US have been recovered. If that sounds oddly specific, there was some guy in New Jersey who used to make custom Atari 2600 carts for kid's birthdays. The game would have their name and stuff in it. As far as anyone can tell, he never even made more than 10 or 15 of them, but some of those have even been found. It's kind of bonkers to think about. The game is called Birthday Mania if you want to look it up and read about it. The LMW has a page dedicated to it. Crazy to think about how more than one of those carts managed to survive and be found.
@@Darxide23 Well, you got that right... in the US that is. In Europe & Japan however, HOOOO boy it's a whole other story & don't even get me started with lesser known countries like Israel & the Philippines.
Same thing can be said for the deleted scenes from The Wizard of Oz, the classic iconic 1939 movie. The full uncut version of The Wizard of Oz that was shown only to test screenings before the movie got released in theaters Nationwide, it ran 20 minutes longer than the version of the film we have today. The only deleted scene from that movie that completely survives or just remains fully intact is the scarecrow dance, it's also called the extended version of If I only had a brain. The lost deleted scene from the movie that to me is the most painful and the most tragic loss is the Triumphal Return to Emerald City. It's also called the reprise of Ding Dong The witch is Dead. Only a few seconds of footage of that scene survive in one of the trailers for the movie, and some production stills, the entire audio and soundtrack still survives for that scene. It would have been the musical climax of the movie if it had stayed in the film. Sometimes I wish I never found out about that deleted scene, because when I watch The Wizard of Oz now, the movie feels tragically incomplete.
My grandpa used to record the TV with Super 8 in the 60's. He really liked Popeye and Chaplin so we have some of that. There's a chance people recorded lost media like this and don't know it's even lost because it's private recordings. But the chance of finding a very specific episode is maybe one in a million. lol
Just remember someone was going thru some old photographs of their parents prom night.... And found the very first picture of van halen performing before they were famous .....
Ninja Gaiden isn't the only classic Japanese gaming franchise to lose it's source code, it also happened to Silent Hill as Konami also ballsed up big time and lost the original source code for both Silent Hill 2 and 3, which is the reason why Silent Hill HD looked inferior by comparison as Konami had to essentially remake the game from scratch and they were unwilling to dedicate a lot of time and resources to do it so they did it on the cheap.
There was a cancelled Star Trek video game called "The Secret of Vulcan Fury", which was written by D.C. Fontana and featured the voices of the entire cast of the original series. According to interviews I've read, all of the hard drives that would have contained the source code and other production materials were intentionally destroyed. All that is left is a trailer featuring some footage and narration by James Doohan. This is something that I really wish could be found, as it would be neat to see another "episode" with the original crew.
It's so nice to see the BBC sad story of Henry have more spotlight in recent years, while the footage most likely won't resurface, people like click clack track and Tom's props definitely are keeping its legacy going. As for other thomas lost media like the down the mine pilot or the missing coach, the reels still exist along with the Thomas and Gordon props used for the pilot but those were rebuilt into the main ones we see in season 1-9 before being replaced by brass models which were more durable, Mattel still has the down the mine pilot reels and missing coach as confirmed by people who work at Mattel and heck the Gordon model that was used in the pilot that was rebuilt into main one I was referring to was on display not to long ago, but Mattel and people who have access to the archives are known for gatekeeping stuff for clout, I won't name anyone involved but several people have confirmed who work at Mattel they have reels but they refuse to share it to the public for some reason for supposed legal reasons.
It's funny that you bring up the 12 oz. Mouse pilot, I"m actually finishing up a video about Adult Swim lost media right now that talks about it. In it, Mouse's boss was Golden Joe instead of Shark, with the character voiced by Keith Crofford (Adult Swim VP) as opposed to his final voice actor Vishal Roney (Adult Swim Line Producer). Brestan actually attends 12 oz. Mouse Zoo Day streams (2/22 every year!) and talks about the show's production, so there would be a chance to ask him about it at some point. While it won't get us the pilot, he may be nice enough to tell us more about the plot, differences, or material he might still have of it. He's a really cool guy, and 12 oz. Mouse is a really good show that I definitely recommend to anyone watching!
Since you mention Adult Swim lost media 2:02, Aqua Teen Hunger Force: The Complete Series DVD is coming out on July 12, 2022, but I highly doubt it will include the abandoned "Boston" episode.
@@andykishore probably not. Judging by the leaked print, the episode still had some work left to do on it. If it were finished they'd probably consider it, but iirc when it leaked the creators were more upset that we were watching a half-completed episode than they were that it had gotten out.
That story about Ninja Gaiden Black reminds me so much of the sad tale of one of my favorite games, Jet Set Radio Future. It was a pack-in game for the original Xbox, funnily enough, and was essentially a remake of the original Jet Set Radio (known as Jet Grind Radio in the US for reasons I am not privy to) for the Sega Dreamcast. It was generally well-received and has a cult following to this day, in particular for its unique cel-shaded art style and its incredible soundtrack. Sadly that soundtrack, in addition to kind of being lost media in and of itself, is the reason the game never got a release for any other console. The soundtrack for the game contained several tracks mixed by the Latch Bros., which was a group founded in part by Mike D of the Beastie Boys. At the time the Beastie Boys were operating their own record label, Grand Royal, and naturally all of their content was released under that label. Unfortunately they seem to be much better DJs than record executives, as Grand Royal folded in 2001, shortly after releasing a music sampler for JSRF, which incidentally wound up being the final release from the label. The rights to Grand Royal's catalog was sold off to independent buyers several years ago, but this didn't include any rights to anything made by the Beastie Boys themselves, which included Mike D's work with the Latch Bros. Given the hassle that tracking down the rights to the game's soundtrack would entail, combined with the likely minimal returns for doing so, and the backlash that would likely result from changing the game's iconic soundtrack, the game has never seen a re-release, and emulation support is spotty at best, so for now the only surefire way to play the game is on the original Xbox. To add insult to injury, as far as I can tell it doesn't look like the soundtrack ever received a cohesive release; the Grand Royal sampler contained part of the soundtrack, and the game's official soundtrack contained a different part, but I don't think they were ever released together, and even if you could find both (which would be an expensive proposition), I'm not sure that would encompass the entire soundtrack.
I have a "Complete" soundtrack I acquired years ago. I have I on my old MP3 player in which I just looked at it. This video here has the majority of it from what I can tell. ua-cam.com/video/WDinE9fcjo4/v-deo.html I don't See Bis's Statement of Intent on that video but that song in one version or another is available on other Bis releases since then. Many of their EPs singles, and Albums were released on Grand Royal for the North American market back late 90's until they shut down as you mentioned Edit: nevermind it's there in the link as the 3rd track. The link seems to be what I have on my MP3 player.
Even if it's extremely unlikely at some point we'll ever see any of these pieces of lost media found, I'm still hoping that at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE has managed to hang onto them, waiting to be discovered. Outstanding video once again! I've really been enjoying your videos, LSSQ! :D Look forward to the next lost media video!
Even if these specific ones maybe still exist somewhere, as unlikely as it might be, it's still unfortunately an unavoidable truth that some unknown fraction of all lost media is truly lost for good. :(
I feel like most lost media isn’t actually lost, it’s only that the people who have it don’t know it’s so rare, and so the chances of one of those people coming across the lost media discussion surrounding it is very rare. Especially if that piece of content is old and therefore kept by an older person who had some relation to it.
@@gavinthecrafter I guess that depends on how you define "lost media"? I usually include writing and art in that, not just audiovisual stuff (that's still media, after all), and I think something like 99% of the writing or art that's ever been produced by humanity is definitely and irreversibly lost just by time alone. For specifically modern media though, yeah for a lot of it that might be true, but some of it we can confirm it's lost without any chance of recovery, even incredibly historically significant stuff. One of the things that makes me saddest is the fate of literally almost everything produced by the DuMont Television Network, for example. :( It was one of the big three with NBC and CBS when television first started, even possibly the _first_ television network depending how you count, but it collapsed in 1956, just before the first videotape recorder was even invented let alone sold, so we know for a fact that there couldn't possibly be any copies made by viewers. Some of their kinescopes were taken home by hosts back in the day (that's why most all of the surviving stuff of theirs we know of is Gleason's original pre-series Honeymooners sketches) but most of them just stayed in the DuMont archives; no copies or anything since there wasn't any point to it, just the original recordings. And all those original kinescopes were, no joke, literally dumped in the East River in the early 70s by a later network that inherited their IP, in order to make room in their warehouses for more recent tapes. :(
Hey. I appreciate you discussing a piece of lost media related to Thomas & Friends. There is a lot of media from Thomas & Friends and The Railway Series that is lost. And I hope that more from it is found.
At first, seeing the thumbnail, I thought the original Railway Series books were now "lost media" and I was like "huh? No they aren't, I literally have a massive book containing all of them and their illustrations." Cool to see what this actually was, sad it's lost.
I'm working on a novel surrounding the concept of lost media as I find it SO interesting. The MC has a copy of the lost media unknowingly and only comes to realise others are looking for it after being found, so he goes on the run, physically and online. I love the idea and mystery behind someone intentionally wanting to erase something in the internet era and what that could look like in the real world. I'm so excited to write it lol
Some people want a timemachine for "more legitimate" purposes(Mostly messing up stuff, lol), while I personally would like one for Lost stuff. Heck, a dream of mine that sadly won't ever happen is to travel to alternate timelines to obtain some of the media that was planned but never properly made in ours. Like, can anyone imagine how absolutely huge it would be for Nintendo videogame fans to get a full build of Kirby for Gamecube or Metroid Prime 1.5? Would be beyond legendary.
Watching Vinesauce Vinny's game commercial streams has had me wish I had a time machine that could somehow tune into TV signals, just so I could see those old commercials "in their prime," so to speak, since, as nice as it is that a lot of old commercials are even preserved in the first place, sometimes they've got a quality akin to like 12p and it kills me a bit inside
This is unrelated to the topic of the video but there's something I remembered from my childhood that's been bothering me lately. When I was very little (early 2000's) I remember seeing this Nick Jr. bumper that really creeped me out and I can't find anything about it online so I'm not sure if it's just me not remembering stuff correctly or if it's a piece of lost media. It was about this creepy sunflower that was talking and (maybe?) singing to the viewers. I remember the sunflower being kinda like a puppet and she (the sunflower) had long eyelashes. Actually it wasn't really a bumper and more like a short series in between the normal shows. Kinda like the mini series with the Guinea Pig that later became Wonder Pets. I really hope I'm not crazy and that this thing actually existed lol!
Yep. I remember that too. I'm a bit older than you so it was more something on TV for my younger brothers at that point. One of those "it's supposed to be cute, children" things that missed the mark. It was kinda some fast-paced song that this fucking flower sung. At one point there's like two clouds fighting (going "he did it" "no, he did it") or something. It was really stupid. EDIT: I found it. UA-cam won't let me link it. Search "Nick Jr Sings: Weather."
I came for the picture of Henry and the potential talking about the BBC lost story, stayed for the awesome video. Man, your content is top notch. Perhaps one day we'll come across these, but as you said they're very unlikely to surface, but we can dream.
The thumbnail caught my eye Edits: 1. There are actually 3 lost TTTE pilots, the second pilot being made by Andrew Lloyd Webber 2. My favorite piece of TTTE lost media is The Adventures of Thomas, a film that possibly could be finished but was never released and eventually canceled
The vast majority of silent films can be safely said to be lost forever because they were produced on nitrate film, which degrades severely after a couple decades if not stored very carefully. Sometimes you'll open an old film case and it'll just be a pile of dust inside, so it's a race against time to get these films found, preserved, catalogued, and digitized. The Library of Congress concluded in a study several years ago that as much as 70% of the ~11,000 American silent films ever made are gone forever and only 14% of those movies still exist in their original format. That study is nearly a decade old now, so that number is surely even lower now. There's also all the old tv shows that were simply never saved to begin with because that wasn't common until I Love Lucy, which was so good that it invented reruns.
Great video as always, since you brought up shmups I'd imagine you might be familiar with the Touhou Project series. While it's not from the games themselves, there is actually a piece of animated lost media associated with it. To date there's never been an official animated adaptation of the series (anything you see online are all fan animated projects), HOWEVER there was an OVA made back in 2010 that crossovered Touhou with the anime/manga retailer chain Anime Tenchou, and it was only shown at private screenings that forbad cameras. While a DVD release was planned for 2011, it never came to fruition and the only media we have available are screenshots, a trailer, and storyboards. I think it's a very interesting case and would be cool to see it covered in a future video if you're interested
I’ll respect the decision for the 9/11 episode, that’s totally reasonable that it was for those who needed comfort in that tragic moment, and for those only, honestly makes it that special, but who knows maybe someone did archive it.
When the Sad Story of Henry 1953, the BBC didn't even have the technology to preserve live broadcasts until later in 1953, so even if they wanted to save it, they literally couldn't. Also, the photo at 9:24 has BoCo, a character whose basis didn't exist until 1956, and Percy from the story "Ghost Train" which wasn't released until 1972.
Time stamp 0:00 intro 1:12 lost pliot episode of 12 ouns mouce 5:05 lost broadcast of Henry The green train 9:45 lost show of funday paw pat show 13:05 lost videogame of ninja gaiden Black & 2 16:14 lost sega saturn game of blast wind 20:45 Ending
Haven’t watched the video yet but as a Thomas fan, I hope that someday, SOMEHOW, the 1953 Sad Story of Henry gets found. Will likey never happen though
With the Sad Story of Henry, the only way I can see the broadcast resurfacing is if someone kinescoped it. If you don't know, before videotapes, kinescopes were the only real practical way of recording television broadcasts. Many old events shown on TV were recorded this way. It's possible *someone* might've kinescoped it, but it's a little unlikely.
Hey LSuperSonicQ, I recently found your videos and have grown a liking of the Lost Media concept and how groups are assembled to find it. Like how you made a video on new lost media searches, could you make a video on how to search for lost media to help out with any searches happening right now?
I was lowkey sad hearing John regretting not saving the pilot for 12 Ouns Mouce. That was a piece of history and apart of his work that became lost to time.
one piece of lost media that (might) be lost forever is lemon demon's first two albums in high quality. when neil cicierega first exported the songs in 2003, he only used low quality mp3s, meaning that the versions online are only in that quality. he eventually lost the original project files for the albums, and while there is an effort to recover the files, if theyre lost, then were stuck with very low quality versions of them. not super high stakes but it came to mind
All art is someone, usually many someones, putting heart and soul and blood, sweat and tears into something. Even if it's BAD you can bet your ass that it took sleepless nights, anxiety attacks and sobbing fits to even get out the door. As James of Dead Meat is fond of saying "No matter what else, they made the movie!" That makes all art, regardless of quality, of presentation, of time period or relevance or memory worth saving, if only to preserve it as a monument to the people who put a drop of their creative soul into the brew.
great video! though kind of surprised the Tokyo Game Show build of Sonic 1 wasn't brought up in the (albeit) short SEGA section towards the end. I don't think we'll EVER see it.
Lost media is a weird thing, you never know when it's going to strike. Back in the 90s, I edited a college joke-newspaper, and was surprised to find after about 2 years that when people wanted reprints of earlier issues I had just never kept about 5 of them.
Sorta fits the lost media thing: psrts of the story of Beowulf is gone forever. We don't know who wrote it and the big deal with it is we don't know the exact ending. There is a rather well preserved copy in some museum but thats about all we got
Original high definition footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was confirmed to not be preserved… They just taped over the original… Arguably one of the most important moments in human history and it’s just gone… All we have is the grainy footage that was broadcast since the original footage was *too* high quality to be broadcast at the time…
Nice man I'm familiar with the Thomas lost media just not the other lost media you talked about. Also, now in the future, can you please talk about your most favorite pieces of lost media that have been found, your most favorite pieces of lost media that you want to be found, your least favorite pieces of lost media that have been found, and your least favorite pieces of lost media that you don't want to be found double please?!
Thomas the Tank Engine scared the ever loving CRUD out of me when I was little, and couldn't understand why other kids just loved him. It's those damn faces. If I saw one of them in an old, abandoned place, and they started emoting and rolling and shifting their eyes, my soul would make a mad sonic-speed dash, and leave the body behind.
I haven't tried it out, but supposedly, the beta version of Ocarina of Time has been making the rounds. As a kid, it always intrigued me how a lot of games could feature a bunch of stuff in magazine preview screenshots which don't appear anywhere in the final product, so here's hoping more betas manage to resurface.
From the sound of things I might be a little older than you. I started watching adult swim day 1. For a time I really identified with the general feel of the whole block. One show I absolutely loved and continued to watch online for years was 12 oz Mouse. My brother and I love that show. To hear the pilot is gone is extremely unfortunate. I hate to hear a critical part of its genesis is no longer with us
This is more book related than film and gaming, but in the 70's and 80's there was a children's book series called the Munch Bunch. I loved it and had a lot of the books, vinyl, annuals and even a ludo game. I also had Mr Men books and wondered for years why the Mr Men books were reprinted and kept in circulation but the Munch Bunch wasn't. Turns out there was a fire where the artists and writers of the books kept their work and the original art for many of the books was destroyed. Anyone who has the books still are sitting on a gold mine of potentially lost material.
this is a really small detail but i want to point out that mess o blues isn't a pilot for johnny bravo but rather a college project the creator made, and he later built off that same character to create johnny bravo
He knows that, but that character still paved the way for Johnny Bravo's creation so it's still technically a pilot, it's like how Seth MacFarlane's Larry and Steve was considered a pilot for family Guy because it had a similar concept and characters, it may not be an official pilot per se but it's still how the cartoons that came after it started in the first place.
As soon as I saw Henry from Thomas the Tank Engine, I became interested. All because I began liking the show since I found out Ringo Starr narrated the show for season 1-2.
Ninja Gaiden Black was so hard I remember giving up for a long while. Picked it back up and still couldn't get past the same spot. Good luck, at least there are guides online now
One of the things that annoys me from a British viewpoint is that when lost media is recovered, due to copyright, cannot be broadcast and the copyright would run out long after those who would love to watch it are gone.
You forgot one The show TUGS has many pieces of lost media like the 30 minute cuts and most of the 20 minute cuts. Theres alot of lost media surrounding that
Hey, long time Ninja Gaiden fan here. It's speculated that the "we lost the source code" excuse from Koei-Tecmo as a reason to not re-release Black and vanilla NG2 was a lie. The motivation for it makes sense if you know about Team Ninja, (the special development team behind Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden) and especially their former leader, Tomonobu Itagaki's relationship with Tecmo. Itagaki founded Team Ninja with hand picked developers in the mid 90s to work on his then new Dead or Alive series to compete with Tekken. It was a massive success for Tecmo. Then in 2000, he began work on reviving the long dormant Ninja Gaiden series, which came out in 2004 to massive acclaim. The game received several balance adjustments, new weapons, enemies, a new difficulty mode, and gameplay modes through periodic DLC releases throughout the next year, and since DLC was not nearly as widespread back then, Team Ninja packaged all the new features and changes into a special definitive edition of the game as Ninja Gaiden Black in 2005. This is why we say Black is the best version of the first game, it's the most feature complete to have been worked on by the original team, as opposed to Sigma which was worked on by a different director and team and has different, more controversial changes. Now, around this time, Itagaki got in hot water with Tecmo, he was faced with a female employee bringing a sexual harassment lawsuit against him, and he countersued claiming Tecmo had failed to pay him properly for overtime/vacation. This drama continued into the development of Ninja Gaiden 2, and as a result that game was released unfinished in June 2008. Immediately after NG2 came out, Itagaki left the company on bad terms and they have basically scrubbed all evidence of his work other than Dead or Alive from their history. This is why They only ever acknowledge the Sigma versions of the Ninja Gaiden games (which had zero involvement from Itagaki) and why we believe their "we lost the source code" excuse is just that, an excuse, and there's still bad blood between them and Itagaki. Even if it was true, other game companies have lost source code and still managed to find ways to rerelease their games anyway by ways such as reverse engineering. Sorry for the essay, but NG is my favorite game series and I wanted to throw my knowledge in.
Something neat that I feel like bringing up would be that the first 15 years of television were live broadcasted, and could not be recorded properly, leading to no actual copies of these shows that could actually have been made or found, making them essentially permanently lost media, having no chance of ever being seen again
So sad to think about this. I personally am always losing something I loved, whether it be a piece of clothing or some sort of internet project. Crazy to think that certain media will forever be gone
Hi Edit: Out of all of these, I want to see the 12 Oz. Mouse lost pilot the most. I didn't like the show, but its cool seeing how cartoons came to be. 😊❤️
With Ninja Gaiden, while the source code is still lost, you should have noted that the games have actually been re-released and can still be purchased/played on modern Xbox consoles via backwards-compatability. That's how I bought NGB, and it's the way to go for most Ninja Gaiden fans since they got enhancements on there.
Wow. I remember when the Ninja Gaiden collection was announced and everyone was upset about them "choosing" the Sigma versions. I have no experience with Ninja Gaiden, but it was sort of amusing to see. But I didn't know they lost the source codes. That's a shame... and also sadly not the first time it happens. Iirc Square Enix is also really bad at archiving their source codes.
I highly reccomend Ninja Gaiden Black. Imo it's the best hack n slash action game ever. Far better than even the DMC and Bayonetta games imo, so if you like those it's a must play. The only thing I know about Sigma is it made the checkpoints fully restore health which cut down the difficulty in a bad way.
This can be said for most live stage shows that aren't on Broadway. I wanted to see Pasadena Playhouse's "Gather: Surprising Stories and Other Mischief" (a program of "story theatre") in 2019 but couldn't due to a number of factors (namely the fact that I couldn't find anyone willing to go with me to Los Angeles). Unless the cast or the Playhouse themselves recorded a dress rehearsal or performance night for posterity, it might as well be lost forever.
Another piece of lost media that doesn’t get talked about as much is the original master files of Deathconsciousness by Have A Nice Life. The album we have is from lower quality backup files Dan uploaded to Dropbox before their hard drive crashed and wiped the original recordings. I guess since it’s an open and shut case there’s not much to talk about, but it’s such an absolutely one of a kind album (one of my personal favorite albums of all time) I wish it got talked about more.
The best example of lost media that are lost forever are personal lost media. a good portion of youtube videos I've made back then were never archived and are pretty much lost forever. Because my videos were obviously not popular, its extremely infeasible for someone else willing to archive them when they still exist. Maybe you can relate to me with stuff you made that might be lost as well.
Losing hours of hard work is awful, ive lost so many videos over the years including an entire series that lasted for 2 seasons But one video in particular caught my interest, it was an old plush video called ‘’toads accident’’ that i dont remember making at all The description read ‘’toad tries to go to scuttle club but ends up going to the wrong place and gets stuck with waluigi’’ I dont have a single clue of what this video could be, if anyone knows anything please tell me
Where is this description coming from? If you don't remember making it, why do you believe some other person that says you did? Unless you have some kind of medical condition that makes it likely you would have forgotten that you did something, wouldn't your own memories be more reliable than some other person? People on the internet lie about stuff like this all the time. For example, as a joke or prank some guy made up an entire seasons worth of episodes and contributed them to an online episode guide for a cartoon called "Street Sharks". This "tainted" episode guide was then referenced by others an many people believed these episodes really existed because of it.
@@the4tierbridge yeah, I’ve come across things I don’t remember buying or making before. I’ve even come across pictures of things I don’t remember doing but, well, there I am in the picture and my relatives remember so I must have.
Honourable mention, the uncut version of the 1998 WWF Over the Edge pay-per-view. Because the full version includes the tragic death of Owen Hart, it was decided to be locked in a secure room labeled, "Never to be viewed, copied, or destroyed," in WWE's archives, likely out of respect to the Hart family. Other examples of the content kept in this room is the footage of Droz receiving the powerbomb that made him a quadriplegic and (I'm assuming) the Chris Benoit tribute show.
Here's one that goes back quite a few years. Anyone recall the animated version of "The Honeymooners", produced by Hanna-Barbera? It debuted at the same time that "The Flintstones" first aired. In fact, The Honeymooners animated used all of the same voice actors as The Flintstones. It was an early attempt at adult animation, and aired late on Friday night. However, it only ran for half a season. Sadly, today, it appears that no copies of that series still exist.
There one piece of lost media like this I know of called St.Francis of dream and Nightmares, an animated film that was destroyed during a Nazi invasion. Rumors have it that some animations cels are in the with collectors of rare items but it's unconfirmed
My favorite bit of probably-lost-forever media is the lost Marx Brothers film, Humor Risk. Which was unreleased and ended up being thrown away or destroyed. It would be really cool to see, since apparently it was made before they'd developed their iconic comedic personas.
Good stuff! And about Blast Wind's obscurity, don't quote me on this but I could swear SEGA Lord X has covered it when highlighting good, lesser-known games for the Saturn
I am the founder of the Funday Pawpet Show. That September 11 episode was done at a time in which we were moving the broadcast studio from one location to the other. The equipment wasn't quite completely hooked up yet when the events of September 11 happened so when we scrambled to set things up to make a broadcast that night the recording devices were not part of the connections that were made in a rush to get to the streaming. Therefore it wasn't that there was a lack of interest in recording it, but rather that part of the gear had not been unpacked and hooked up. Unfortunately the streaming media content of those days was very lacking, so recording live streams was difficult. It was a difficult night, but people did appreciate the efforts of that night.
I'm surprised you were streaming the show directly instead of just filming it and uploading it later, even all those years ago..
TBH archive it! (also :3)
@@RMGUncommon6415 To Be Honest
Do you remember anything from it
Incredible. I would love to hear more about this lost media in which it was a during an event that sparked history.
Recently, there has been some slight developments in the search of the BBC Sad Story of Henry. Someone managed to come in contact with a crew member of the show and provided them with key production notes, including layout arrangement, model trains used, and attempts for following episodes. While the original broadcast is most likely lost, there is at least growing information that paints a picture of what it might have been like.
Do you know where I can find it
It's Tom's props you are referring to right?
@@jaidensmith9428 I'd really like to know as well. As someone whose whole childhood was Thomas it'd be really cool to see some of the props and material they used
@@MonikaTrains Yes, he's talking about Tom
Just wait, someday a hardcore Thomas fan is going to make a perfect, 1:1 recreation of the broadcast and upload it to UA-cam, confusing the fuck out of everyone.
The thomas the tank engine live broadcast might just be my favorite lost media story. I just can't keep myself from imagining people's reaction to seeing a train derail, then a giant hand pick it up.
it must have been so brilliantly surreal. I love it.
It was master hand
Sluggo might have also played a part in it, too
My mom is a hoarder (not shaming her, but she admits it too). There are a BUNCH of VHS tapes where she recorded shows and movies for me as a kid in the 90s. Sometimes I like to imagine one day I'll go through them and find something lost.
I would do exactly that if i had the time to go through them. Probably the best thing you could do is upload the footage to the internet archive and have others look through it.
The sooner you look through them, the better.
Honestly the more time you waste the more that stuff degrades. There’s bound to be something interesting in there, would definitely be worth your time to spend a day archiving all of it when you get the chance
Its always a possibility!
@@lightyagami3492 I'd have to look into how to do that
The source code to Kingdom Hearts was completely lost, developers had to dig through the compiled game data in order to recreate the code in order to rerelease the game in HD. Similar thing happened to Silent Hill and it's HD Collection. It's weird to think that all the coding and work that was put into these games would just vanish.
Silent Hill collection was different. The devs tasked with it got unfinished builds of the games instead of the actual source code and had to rely on that
Gosh I wonder how that happened 😅
Is code different from recorded audio?
Is it possible to just use existing retail copies of the game to recreate the source code?
@@JamesLawner possibly, that's how modders were able to make a pc port of Mario 64, Reversed engineered the source code but it took a while to do it
Hey, I’m the guy who wrote the original article on the Sad Story of Henry 1953 for the OG lost media wiki back around 2013-2014 or so. I’m always glad to see people talk about it, especially since when I write the article on it there were maybe two sources online for it, an article on Sodor Island Fansite which mentioned it in passing, and a scan of a news article I had to dig for. I should clarify that the claims of found footage or the like was not my doing, and I don’t know why people have claimed that since. I’m glad more info has since come out and I’d like to mention that within the last year there’s been further developments. Someone who preserves many props and BTS material from the later 1984 onwards show, has been in contact with a crew member who worked on the 53 pilot, and has received notes on the layout, engines, and other production details. They aren’t shared publicly yet, but it gives me hope that someday something will turn up, even if it’s just images of the broadcast
On account of the guy who got the info, who is known to be hoarding tons of BTS material for his “Documentary”, I doubt we’ll ever see much of it.
@@the4tierbridge I managed to save some of the information he provided online. The biggest thing of note is that Meccano provided a full layout and a couple of engine for promotion.
Hey so if you're a guy who wrote the article then the person who wrote it will be somewhere between 80s or 90s or even 70s depending what they're born
@@Da.Liar-Pig I don't think he was talking about the original article. Read his comment again. 🤦♂️
@@KevinLuper99 well your actually right I didn't even read it second time
And I thought he is talking about a newspaper article
Ooo, a Railway Series illustration on the thumbnail? That draws me in. In all seriousness, I wish the BBC's 1953 Sad Story of Henry had at least one surviving production photo to at least confirm it, because even with the two newspaper articles, the idea of a live production of The Sad Story of Henry where Henry's model derails and a hand supposedly rerails it live on TV seems like something ANYONE could come up with
Righttt I saw the railway series and was wondering why my world's were colliding 😭
That kind of thing happened a lot in the days of live TV in the 50s and early 60s
There are actually quite a few papers that have been found.
Ah, a man of culture
I guess the BBC has bad track records with recording and keeping old episodes that aired on their program, but it gets sadder than that. One piece of lost media that I want to try and find is the Appeal of June 18th which was a radio broadcast by Charles de Gaulle urging the French people to resist the German occupation. The BBC didn’t think it was important enough to be recorded but it is one of the most famous speeches of ww2. I know it’s most likely impossible but I hope a recording of the speech exists somewhere.
I wonder why the BBC doesn't think certain things are worth archiving. I think the speech you're looking for is definitely worthy of being archived!
Paul Winchell's ventriloquism show he did before he became well known for voicing Tigger on Winnie the Pooh is sadly lost due to a dispute he was having with the producer of the show, he was demanding the rights to those tapes and the producers destroyed all of them out of pure spite, Winchell successfully sued them for millions but unfortunately his old work is pretty much gone forever as a result.
Oh no! That’s awful
Man, that is awful.
Up until his death, he was offering a reward for anyone who had copies of anything. A few clips are on UA-cam and my mom often watches them with her grandchildren but the loss of a greater archive is devastating.
@@reneecardineau Interesting did not know that.
Those producers are living examples of evil; if someone will not allow them to unfairly extort their own work for profit, they would prefer that this work be forever erased, essentially wiping out a segment of their legacy forever. Wtf is wrong with them?
I'm so glad you're talking about the "Sad Story Of Henry" BBC Adaption on The Railway Series's 77th birthday!
Even if so many people have already talked about it.
i really want to know if it was by accident or not lololol
I heard that Henry didn't even derail, James did, whilst he was pushing henry
@@Ink454_SSC Oh hi Inkmaster!
@@dogemaster-hm2ce hey buddy, it's ink for short a
@@Ink454_SSC it's ink 4 short ay?!?!!
Moment!
There are also other things that should've been mentioned as well. The Sonic the Hedgehog 1990 prototype that Yuji Naka himself said was lost, and the other Super Mario World 1989 stuff and others in the gigaleak that was lost to time due to poor archival. Also, kinda unrelated, but the entire SM64 prototype repo is thought to still exist, since the iQue repo that was in the leak contained only what Nintendo gave to them. There is definitely still more of it in Nintendo's internal files.
I just wanted to drop by and tell you that the gigaleak's timing and contents are way too much of a coincidence to be unintentional. Case in point, L is Real 2401 was confirmed to be true exactly 24 years and 1 month after the game's initial release.
Let that sink in.
@@MDLuffy1234YT Yeah, that was weird. By the way, we also found a complete log of all the directories for Super Mario World that were intended to be there. In the leak, there was only one dev folder, "hino". He was Nintendo's character and graphic designer, but the list also referenced other developer folders such as "tezuka" and "konno" folders. But weirdly enough, I don't think any of the files in the lost folders were logged. Either that, or they were edited out for the leak.
@@MDLuffy1234YT yep, we should pray more heed to the real prophets
@@MDLuffy1234YT I'm pretty sure that the guy who actually hacked into Nintendo's archives, thought it would just be funny to send it to one of his mates to just release it on the myth's 24th birthday.
From what I heard, there's still stuff being found in the leak's files, and there were actually way more leaks than just the main 2, people are just gate keeping it on Discord dms and stuff like that.
@@dogemaster-hm2ce yeah, that's most probably the case.
There's other lost media that will be lost forever: silent films from the late 1800s to 1920s. Cinema legends admit that 90% of silent films are completely lost. And for some of the luckiest silent movies being found after a century of searching, it's best we'll never see them again.
A lot of those, if not most were also filmed on stock notoriously open to being damaged, ruined, burned or destroyed just due to the nature of the film stock.
No shit sherlock
I'm impressed with your ability to always find new stuff & keep the topic of lost media fresh, especially since the vast majority of Lost Media fans don't seem to give a crap about anything they haven't personally seen, pre-2000s or from countries outside of America, Canada, the UK, or Japan. Personally, the older & more foreign, the more interesting it is.
Agreed. I always wanted to see what kind of cartoons the Philippines made years before The Nutshack, but unfortunately it seems that barely any of those have been preserved in any way, shape or form.
My favorite pieces of lost media are French silent films from Georges Melies made before 1910, his surviving films are beautiful and it saddens me that most of his work is lost to time.
The piece of lost media I personally want to find is a tape that UNICEF made in collaboration with the cast of Degrassi Junior High, a forgotten Canadian 1980s high school show that got a better-known reboot in the 2000s starring a young Drake. The tape was apparently released to schools across Canada in 1989, and one or two copies are known to exist in an Ontario university (non-loanable, meaning it can only be used inside the library). Apart from that, it's never been available online, and was barely mentioned in the slightest. The "forgotten" part is the main hurdle, unfortunately. Degrassi is a pretty niche franchise already, being in a genre that a lot of people tend to ridicule and that is less appealing to the lost media crowd than kids shows/cartoons. Add the fact that the original 80s version is significantly less known and remembered outside of the narrow Canadian Generation X'ers who admitted to watching and liking it makes the chances of bringing attention to the search little to none. Me and a few people have searched really hard for it, but have come up with virtually nothing except some old UNICEF brochures that mention the video and an eight second clip from some documentary, which for obvious reasons was a great find, but that was over a year ago. It's always made me sad that a simple lack of interest can contribute to media becoming lost.
Most older video games no longer have source code. I don't know when it became the norm to save source code, but it was probably as recently as the PS2/XBox 360 era. Prior to that, if your company name wasn't Nintendo then you didn't save source code. For various reasons. Lack of storage capacity, lack of interest in preservation (for most of the time that video games have existed, nobody thought they would be anything people would care about after their initial release), and security (to keep someone from stealing the source and creating pirated versions of the game or stealing tech) have all been cited. So singling out any one game for "lost source code" is probably a bit superfluous. It's like picking out one snowflake on a mountaintop. It's kind of pointless.
However, lost source code for games that were completed, but never released? Now that's a different topic. One of my personal holy grails is the expansion for Ultima VIII: Pagan called _The Lost Vale._ The expansion was complete and so close to release that game boxes were even printed, though most of them ended up destroyed when the expansion was cancelled as a result of EA acquiring Origin Systems, Inc. One surviving box (confirmed authentic) sold on eBay in 2005 for almost $2000. People who worked on the project said manuals had been printed as well and the master had been sent out to be stamped onto CDs, but that the order was cancelled before any discs were produced. After EA acquired Origin, whatever remained of the source for that expansion seems to have been discarded from all accounts. It's quite likely that it's lost forever.
The source for Ultima VIII itself still exists in the hands of former Origin employees. One anonymous ex-Origin dev reached out to the devs of a fan project to remaster Ultima VIII for modern hardware and offered them the complete source code to the original game. They declined, for legal reasons. But it's good to know that it still exists somewhere and might see the light of day eventually. But the expansion? Seems gone forever.
Can't source code be recompiled
Heck, not just source code to video games. Video games IN GENERAL. I know that sounds like a bit of a stretch considering how many video games from the 80s & 90s we have preserved, but beneath all of those are the games that got released & put on store shelves for sale or were mail order titles, sold very poorly & ultimately will likely never be found despite the games being released. And that number is only growing more & more, even if one of those games eventually gets found & preserved.
@@btd6pro693 Not really. With A LOT OF EFFORT, the compiled output can be reverse engineered into something sort of resembling the original source code, but it won't be exactly the same. Even if successful, the output will be missing a lot of context that the original source code would have had, such as comments and variable names.
@@ExtremeWreck That's true enough. Luckily, there are relatively few games known to have actually been produced, distributed, and sold that are considered lost. Even some of the most obscure Atari 2600 games that you had to order from the classified ads in only one specific city in the US have been recovered. If that sounds oddly specific, there was some guy in New Jersey who used to make custom Atari 2600 carts for kid's birthdays. The game would have their name and stuff in it. As far as anyone can tell, he never even made more than 10 or 15 of them, but some of those have even been found. It's kind of bonkers to think about. The game is called Birthday Mania if you want to look it up and read about it. The LMW has a page dedicated to it. Crazy to think about how more than one of those carts managed to survive and be found.
@@Darxide23 Well, you got that right... in the US that is. In Europe & Japan however, HOOOO boy it's a whole other story & don't even get me started with lesser known countries like Israel & the Philippines.
Same thing can be said for the deleted scenes from The Wizard of Oz, the classic iconic 1939 movie. The full uncut version of The Wizard of Oz that was shown only to test screenings before the movie got released in theaters Nationwide, it ran 20 minutes longer than the version of the film we have today.
The only deleted scene from that movie that completely survives or just remains fully intact is the scarecrow dance, it's also called the extended version of If I only had a brain.
The lost deleted scene from the movie that to me is the most painful and the most tragic loss is the Triumphal Return to Emerald City.
It's also called the reprise of Ding Dong The witch is Dead.
Only a few seconds of footage of that scene survive in one of the trailers for the movie, and some production stills, the entire audio and soundtrack still survives for that scene. It would have been the musical climax of the movie if it had stayed in the film.
Sometimes I wish I never found out about that deleted scene, because when I watch The Wizard of Oz now, the movie feels tragically incomplete.
My grandpa used to record the TV with Super 8 in the 60's. He really liked Popeye and Chaplin so we have some of that. There's a chance people recorded lost media like this and don't know it's even lost because it's private recordings. But the chance of finding a very specific episode is maybe one in a million. lol
It's possible, but this was a lot less common than it would later become for people to record TV shows with their VCRs.
@Rin Have you digitized them yet?
Just remember someone was going thru some old photographs of their parents prom night.... And found the very first picture of van halen performing before they were famous .....
It'd be interesting to see the commercials and the station identifications, there are groups interested in those things....
Upload them please!!!
Ninja Gaiden isn't the only classic Japanese gaming franchise to lose it's source code, it also happened to Silent Hill as Konami also ballsed up big time and lost the original source code for both Silent Hill 2 and 3, which is the reason why Silent Hill HD looked inferior by comparison as Konami had to essentially remake the game from scratch and they were unwilling to dedicate a lot of time and resources to do it so they did it on the cheap.
There was a cancelled Star Trek video game called "The Secret of Vulcan Fury", which was written by D.C. Fontana and featured the voices of the entire cast of the original series. According to interviews I've read, all of the hard drives that would have contained the source code and other production materials were intentionally destroyed. All that is left is a trailer featuring some footage and narration by James Doohan. This is something that I really wish could be found, as it would be neat to see another "episode" with the original crew.
Who destroyed the source files?
Maybe someone could do a lost media search for Boomerang bumpers
YES literally we need those back
I thought the majority is available due to that branding’s longevity. What’s lost?
I would LOVE to see that!
It's so nice to see the BBC sad story of Henry have more spotlight in recent years, while the footage most likely won't resurface, people like click clack track and Tom's props definitely are keeping its legacy going. As for other thomas lost media like the down the mine pilot or the missing coach, the reels still exist along with the Thomas and Gordon props used for the pilot but those were rebuilt into the main ones we see in season 1-9 before being replaced by brass models which were more durable, Mattel still has the down the mine pilot reels and missing coach as confirmed by people who work at Mattel and heck the Gordon model that was used in the pilot that was rebuilt into main one I was referring to was on display not to long ago, but Mattel and people who have access to the archives are known for gatekeeping stuff for clout, I won't name anyone involved but several people have confirmed who work at Mattel they have reels but they refuse to share it to the public for some reason for supposed legal reasons.
It's funny that you bring up the 12 oz. Mouse pilot, I"m actually finishing up a video about Adult Swim lost media right now that talks about it. In it, Mouse's boss was Golden Joe instead of Shark, with the character voiced by Keith Crofford (Adult Swim VP) as opposed to his final voice actor Vishal Roney (Adult Swim Line Producer).
Brestan actually attends 12 oz. Mouse Zoo Day streams (2/22 every year!) and talks about the show's production, so there would be a chance to ask him about it at some point. While it won't get us the pilot, he may be nice enough to tell us more about the plot, differences, or material he might still have of it. He's a really cool guy, and 12 oz. Mouse is a really good show that I definitely recommend to anyone watching!
Since you mention Adult Swim lost media 2:02, Aqua Teen Hunger Force: The Complete Series DVD is coming out on July 12, 2022, but I highly doubt it will include the abandoned "Boston" episode.
@@andykishore probably not. Judging by the leaked print, the episode still had some work left to do on it. If it were finished they'd probably consider it, but iirc when it leaked the creators were more upset that we were watching a half-completed episode than they were that it had gotten out.
That story about Ninja Gaiden Black reminds me so much of the sad tale of one of my favorite games, Jet Set Radio Future. It was a pack-in game for the original Xbox, funnily enough, and was essentially a remake of the original Jet Set Radio (known as Jet Grind Radio in the US for reasons I am not privy to) for the Sega Dreamcast. It was generally well-received and has a cult following to this day, in particular for its unique cel-shaded art style and its incredible soundtrack. Sadly that soundtrack, in addition to kind of being lost media in and of itself, is the reason the game never got a release for any other console. The soundtrack for the game contained several tracks mixed by the Latch Bros., which was a group founded in part by Mike D of the Beastie Boys. At the time the Beastie Boys were operating their own record label, Grand Royal, and naturally all of their content was released under that label. Unfortunately they seem to be much better DJs than record executives, as Grand Royal folded in 2001, shortly after releasing a music sampler for JSRF, which incidentally wound up being the final release from the label. The rights to Grand Royal's catalog was sold off to independent buyers several years ago, but this didn't include any rights to anything made by the Beastie Boys themselves, which included Mike D's work with the Latch Bros. Given the hassle that tracking down the rights to the game's soundtrack would entail, combined with the likely minimal returns for doing so, and the backlash that would likely result from changing the game's iconic soundtrack, the game has never seen a re-release, and emulation support is spotty at best, so for now the only surefire way to play the game is on the original Xbox. To add insult to injury, as far as I can tell it doesn't look like the soundtrack ever received a cohesive release; the Grand Royal sampler contained part of the soundtrack, and the game's official soundtrack contained a different part, but I don't think they were ever released together, and even if you could find both (which would be an expensive proposition), I'm not sure that would encompass the entire soundtrack.
I have a "Complete" soundtrack I acquired years ago. I have I on my old MP3 player in which I just looked at it.
This video here has the majority of it from what I can tell.
ua-cam.com/video/WDinE9fcjo4/v-deo.html
I don't See Bis's Statement of Intent on that video but that song in one version or another is available on other Bis releases since then.
Many of their EPs singles, and Albums were released on Grand Royal for the North American market back late 90's until they shut down as you mentioned
Edit: nevermind it's there in the link as the 3rd track.
The link seems to be what I have on my MP3 player.
I was just playing JSRF the other month. Still have the original packaging for the Xbox that it came in.
It’s not lost if it can be bought at used stores or online 🤡
@@HistoryandReviews Nor is Ninja Gaiden Black. You can buy it and an Xbox and be good to go. I was just remarking that the situation was similar.
Whats crazy the people or group you mentioned did sonic rushes soundtrack for ds
Even if it's extremely unlikely at some point we'll ever see any of these pieces of lost media found, I'm still hoping that at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE has managed to hang onto them, waiting to be discovered. Outstanding video once again! I've really been enjoying your videos, LSSQ! :D Look forward to the next lost media video!
Even if these specific ones maybe still exist somewhere, as unlikely as it might be, it's still unfortunately an unavoidable truth that some unknown fraction of all lost media is truly lost for good. :(
@@Idran Indeed. Which is way it's always best to archive as much as possible.
I feel like most lost media isn’t actually lost, it’s only that the people who have it don’t know it’s so rare, and so the chances of one of those people coming across the lost media discussion surrounding it is very rare. Especially if that piece of content is old and therefore kept by an older person who had some relation to it.
@@gavinthecrafter I guess that depends on how you define "lost media"? I usually include writing and art in that, not just audiovisual stuff (that's still media, after all), and I think something like 99% of the writing or art that's ever been produced by humanity is definitely and irreversibly lost just by time alone.
For specifically modern media though, yeah for a lot of it that might be true, but some of it we can confirm it's lost without any chance of recovery, even incredibly historically significant stuff. One of the things that makes me saddest is the fate of literally almost everything produced by the DuMont Television Network, for example. :(
It was one of the big three with NBC and CBS when television first started, even possibly the _first_ television network depending how you count, but it collapsed in 1956, just before the first videotape recorder was even invented let alone sold, so we know for a fact that there couldn't possibly be any copies made by viewers. Some of their kinescopes were taken home by hosts back in the day (that's why most all of the surviving stuff of theirs we know of is Gleason's original pre-series Honeymooners sketches) but most of them just stayed in the DuMont archives; no copies or anything since there wasn't any point to it, just the original recordings. And all those original kinescopes were, no joke, literally dumped in the East River in the early 70s by a later network that inherited their IP, in order to make room in their warehouses for more recent tapes. :(
@@gavinthecrafter That is true.
Hey. I appreciate you discussing a piece of lost media related to Thomas & Friends. There is a lot of media from Thomas & Friends and The Railway Series that is lost. And I hope that more from it is found.
At first, seeing the thumbnail, I thought the original Railway Series books were now "lost media" and I was like "huh? No they aren't, I literally have a massive book containing all of them and their illustrations." Cool to see what this actually was, sad it's lost.
I'm working on a novel surrounding the concept of lost media as I find it SO interesting. The MC has a copy of the lost media unknowingly and only comes to realise others are looking for it after being found, so he goes on the run, physically and online. I love the idea and mystery behind someone intentionally wanting to erase something in the internet era and what that could look like in the real world. I'm so excited to write it lol
I just hate when a piece of lost media gets lost forever and ever…
ok
knowing that something is lost forever makes me sad
Some people want a timemachine for "more legitimate" purposes(Mostly messing up stuff, lol), while I personally would like one for Lost stuff. Heck, a dream of mine that sadly won't ever happen is to travel to alternate timelines to obtain some of the media that was planned but never properly made in ours. Like, can anyone imagine how absolutely huge it would be for Nintendo videogame fans to get a full build of Kirby for Gamecube or Metroid Prime 1.5? Would be beyond legendary.
Oh I have daydreams like that all the time.
Watching Vinesauce Vinny's game commercial streams has had me wish I had a time machine that could somehow tune into TV signals, just so I could see those old commercials "in their prime," so to speak, since, as nice as it is that a lot of old commercials are even preserved in the first place, sometimes they've got a quality akin to like 12p and it kills me a bit inside
I’d love a time machine to allow me to spectate The Beatles for inspiration
Or all those lost episodes of Doctor Who.
@@WhimsicottFanatic based vinny
This is unrelated to the topic of the video but there's something I remembered from my childhood that's been bothering me lately. When I was very little (early 2000's) I remember seeing this Nick Jr. bumper that really creeped me out and I can't find anything about it online so I'm not sure if it's just me not remembering stuff correctly or if it's a piece of lost media. It was about this creepy sunflower that was talking and (maybe?) singing to the viewers. I remember the sunflower being kinda like a puppet and she (the sunflower) had long eyelashes. Actually it wasn't really a bumper and more like a short series in between the normal shows. Kinda like the mini series with the Guinea Pig that later became Wonder Pets. I really hope I'm not crazy and that this thing actually existed lol!
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this reminds me of an animatronic singing sunflower my parents had from the 90s and it scared the life out of me
Yep. I remember that too. I'm a bit older than you so it was more something on TV for my younger brothers at that point.
One of those "it's supposed to be cute, children" things that missed the mark. It was kinda some fast-paced song that this fucking flower sung. At one point there's like two clouds fighting (going "he did it" "no, he did it") or something. It was really stupid.
EDIT: I found it. UA-cam won't let me link it. Search "Nick Jr Sings: Weather."
@@Doctor_Robert Oh my gosh thank you! It's even creepier than I remember...
@@InfernoYTOfficial Thanks for reminding me it exists... because now I can't get it out of my head!! 😵💫😵
And that daisy will haunt my nightmares.
I came for the picture of Henry and the potential talking about the BBC lost story, stayed for the awesome video. Man, your content is top notch. Perhaps one day we'll come across these, but as you said they're very unlikely to surface, but we can dream.
This video could also be called “Lost media that can only be found with a time machine”
Time travel likely exists so there might still be a chance of some of these things being found.
The thumbnail caught my eye
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1. There are actually 3 lost TTTE pilots, the second pilot being made by Andrew Lloyd Webber
2. My favorite piece of TTTE lost media is The Adventures of Thomas, a film that possibly could be finished but was never released and eventually canceled
the missing coach episode was another one that never got made
@@Klonoa_gamer664 I nearly forgot that. There's also Gordon Goes Foreign too
Funny that you mention the Thomas 1950s pilot, because today actually marks the 77th anniversary of the first Railway Series book!
Oh really? Crazy!
The vast majority of silent films can be safely said to be lost forever because they were produced on nitrate film, which degrades severely after a couple decades if not stored very carefully. Sometimes you'll open an old film case and it'll just be a pile of dust inside, so it's a race against time to get these films found, preserved, catalogued, and digitized. The Library of Congress concluded in a study several years ago that as much as 70% of the ~11,000 American silent films ever made are gone forever and only 14% of those movies still exist in their original format. That study is nearly a decade old now, so that number is surely even lower now. There's also all the old tv shows that were simply never saved to begin with because that wasn't common until I Love Lucy, which was so good that it invented reruns.
Great video as always, since you brought up shmups I'd imagine you might be familiar with the Touhou Project series. While it's not from the games themselves, there is actually a piece of animated lost media associated with it. To date there's never been an official animated adaptation of the series (anything you see online are all fan animated projects), HOWEVER there was an OVA made back in 2010 that crossovered Touhou with the anime/manga retailer chain Anime Tenchou, and it was only shown at private screenings that forbad cameras. While a DVD release was planned for 2011, it never came to fruition and the only media we have available are screenshots, a trailer, and storyboards. I think it's a very interesting case and would be cool to see it covered in a future video if you're interested
I’m interested... I like the memories of Phantasm
@@reverseshin you actually liked that garbage? get well soon
@@theheartpt5 thank you,
I guess
around 20:16 I thought my mouse was moving on its own for a second lol. great video as always. its always great seeing another Saturn enthusiast .
I’ll respect the decision for the 9/11 episode, that’s totally reasonable that it was for those who needed comfort in that tragic moment, and for those only, honestly makes it that special, but who knows maybe someone did archive it.
When the Sad Story of Henry 1953, the BBC didn't even have the technology to preserve live broadcasts until later in 1953, so even if they wanted to save it, they literally couldn't.
Also, the photo at 9:24 has BoCo, a character whose basis didn't exist until 1956, and Percy from the story "Ghost Train" which wasn't released until 1972.
Time stamp
0:00 intro
1:12 lost pliot episode of 12 ouns mouce
5:05 lost broadcast of Henry The green train
9:45 lost show of funday paw pat show
13:05 lost videogame of ninja gaiden Black & 2
16:14 lost sega saturn game of blast wind
20:45 Ending
Haven’t watched the video yet but as a Thomas fan, I hope that someday, SOMEHOW, the 1953 Sad Story of Henry gets found. Will likey never happen though
Spoilers: 5:22
With the Sad Story of Henry, the only way I can see the broadcast resurfacing is if someone kinescoped it.
If you don't know, before videotapes, kinescopes were the only real practical way of recording television broadcasts. Many old events shown on TV were recorded this way. It's possible *someone* might've kinescoped it, but it's a little unlikely.
The perfect end to my night, another LSSQ vid ❤️
Hey LSuperSonicQ, I recently found your videos and have grown a liking of the Lost Media concept and how groups are assembled to find it. Like how you made a video on new lost media searches, could you make a video on how to search for lost media to help out with any searches happening right now?
I was lowkey sad hearing John regretting not saving the pilot for 12 Ouns Mouce. That was a piece of history and apart of his work that became lost to time.
permanently lost media always bums me out 😞, but it's still interesting to learn about tbh
one piece of lost media that (might) be lost forever is lemon demon's first two albums in high quality. when neil cicierega first exported the songs in 2003, he only used low quality mp3s, meaning that the versions online are only in that quality. he eventually lost the original project files for the albums, and while there is an effort to recover the files, if theyre lost, then were stuck with very low quality versions of them. not super high stakes but it came to mind
I'm glad you covered the lost early 12 oz Mouse pilot! wasn't expected it to be talked about haha..
All art is someone, usually many someones, putting heart and soul and blood, sweat and tears into something. Even if it's BAD you can bet your ass that it took sleepless nights, anxiety attacks and sobbing fits to even get out the door. As James of Dead Meat is fond of saying "No matter what else, they made the movie!" That makes all art, regardless of quality, of presentation, of time period or relevance or memory worth saving, if only to preserve it as a monument to the people who put a drop of their creative soul into the brew.
*draws a fishy in four seconds* art
@@spamtongspamton9900 Damn right it is. Even if it's only to make yourself happy in that moment.
@@spamtongspamton9900 thanks spamton
great video! though kind of surprised the Tokyo Game Show build of Sonic 1 wasn't brought up in the (albeit) short SEGA section towards the end. I don't think we'll EVER see it.
Lost media is a weird thing, you never know when it's going to strike. Back in the 90s, I edited a college joke-newspaper, and was surprised to find after about 2 years that when people wanted reprints of earlier issues I had just never kept about 5 of them.
Sorta fits the lost media thing: psrts of the story of Beowulf is gone forever. We don't know who wrote it and the big deal with it is we don't know the exact ending. There is a rather well preserved copy in some museum but thats about all we got
dang, somebody should like, email the author or something :/
Original high definition footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was confirmed to not be preserved… They just taped over the original… Arguably one of the most important moments in human history and it’s just gone… All we have is the grainy footage that was broadcast since the original footage was *too* high quality to be broadcast at the time…
Nice that you finally came upon a piece of Thomas lost media. And just in time for the franchise's 77th anniversary.
I'm so glad to see the sad story of Henry pilot being talked about outside the Thomas fandom
The little cartoon of you reminds me so much of one of my son's friends! I love it!
Nice man I'm familiar with the Thomas lost media just not the other lost media you talked about. Also, now in the future, can you please talk about your most favorite pieces of lost media that have been found, your most favorite pieces of lost media that you want to be found, your least favorite pieces of lost media that have been found, and your least favorite pieces of lost media that you don't want to be found double please?!
Thomas the Tank Engine scared the ever loving CRUD out of me when I was little, and couldn't understand why other kids just loved him. It's those damn faces. If I saw one of them in an old, abandoned place, and they started emoting and rolling and shifting their eyes, my soul would make a mad sonic-speed dash, and leave the body behind.
Oh my gosh! I've always hoped that LSuperSonicQ would cover TTTE Lost Media!
AYYYYYYYYYY HG101 Represent!!! As a podcast host for them, I have to say it's pretty cool seeing you use us
I haven't tried it out, but supposedly, the beta version of Ocarina of Time has been making the rounds. As a kid, it always intrigued me how a lot of games could feature a bunch of stuff in magazine preview screenshots which don't appear anywhere in the final product, so here's hoping more betas manage to resurface.
Good news. They found Duke Nukem forever. No idea how
Wasn’t that game already released?
@@JamesLawner 2001 build, not the official release
@@JamesLawner I think they’re talking about the 2001 build
For anyone who thinks Henry died in the episode
HE COMES OUT OF THE TUNNEL IN THE NEXT FUCKING EPISODE
There is one that gets abandoned though he gets turned into like a generator and then later buried in like a rock slide or something if I'm right
Really enjoying your recent content!!
Hi sakura 👋
Another great video by you!
From the sound of things I might be a little older than you. I started watching adult swim day 1. For a time I really identified with the general feel of the whole block. One show I absolutely loved and continued to watch online for years was 12 oz Mouse. My brother and I love that show. To hear the pilot is gone is extremely unfortunate. I hate to hear a critical part of its genesis is no longer with us
This is more book related than film and gaming, but in the 70's and 80's there was a children's book series called the Munch Bunch. I loved it and had a lot of the books, vinyl, annuals and even a ludo game. I also had Mr Men books and wondered for years why the Mr Men books were reprinted and kept in circulation but the Munch Bunch wasn't. Turns out there was a fire where the artists and writers of the books kept their work and the original art for many of the books was destroyed. Anyone who has the books still are sitting on a gold mine of potentially lost material.
LSuperSonicQ... your videos are FANTASTIC. but everytime you say the word "era" it sounds SO funny to me and I can't exactly pinpoint why.
this is a really small detail but i want to point out that mess o blues isn't a pilot for johnny bravo but rather a college project the creator made, and he later built off that same character to create johnny bravo
He knows that, but that character still paved the way for Johnny Bravo's creation so it's still technically a pilot, it's like how Seth MacFarlane's Larry and Steve was considered a pilot for family Guy because it had a similar concept and characters, it may not be an official pilot per se but it's still how the cartoons that came after it started in the first place.
@@Treeeee2008 a pilot is created to either pitch a show or be a proof of concept for a show, and mess o blues was neither
As soon as I saw Henry from Thomas the Tank Engine, I became interested. All because I began liking the show since I found out Ringo Starr narrated the show for season 1-2.
It was actually really sweet for an episode to be made to comfort people after the 9/11 tragedy
Yooooo 12 ounce mouse was awesome. I barely remember it but that art style is unforgettable
Ninja Gaiden Black was so hard I remember giving up for a long while. Picked it back up and still couldn't get past the same spot. Good luck, at least there are guides online now
One of the things that annoys me from a British viewpoint is that when lost media is recovered, due to copyright, cannot be broadcast and the copyright would run out long after those who would love to watch it are gone.
Woo! new vid to watch tonight!! thanks Lssq!!
You forgot one
The show TUGS has many pieces of lost media like the 30 minute cuts and most of the 20 minute cuts. Theres alot of lost media surrounding that
Hey, long time Ninja Gaiden fan here. It's speculated that the "we lost the source code" excuse from Koei-Tecmo as a reason to not re-release Black and vanilla NG2 was a lie. The motivation for it makes sense if you know about Team Ninja, (the special development team behind Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden) and especially their former leader, Tomonobu Itagaki's relationship with Tecmo.
Itagaki founded Team Ninja with hand picked developers in the mid 90s to work on his then new Dead or Alive series to compete with Tekken. It was a massive success for Tecmo. Then in 2000, he began work on reviving the long dormant Ninja Gaiden series, which came out in 2004 to massive acclaim. The game received several balance adjustments, new weapons, enemies, a new difficulty mode, and gameplay modes through periodic DLC releases throughout the next year, and since DLC was not nearly as widespread back then, Team Ninja packaged all the new features and changes into a special definitive edition of the game as Ninja Gaiden Black in 2005. This is why we say Black is the best version of the first game, it's the most feature complete to have been worked on by the original team, as opposed to Sigma which was worked on by a different director and team and has different, more controversial changes.
Now, around this time, Itagaki got in hot water with Tecmo, he was faced with a female employee bringing a sexual harassment lawsuit against him, and he countersued claiming Tecmo had failed to pay him properly for overtime/vacation. This drama continued into the development of Ninja Gaiden 2, and as a result that game was released unfinished in June 2008. Immediately after NG2 came out, Itagaki left the company on bad terms and they have basically scrubbed all evidence of his work other than Dead or Alive from their history. This is why They only ever acknowledge the Sigma versions of the Ninja Gaiden games (which had zero involvement from Itagaki) and why we believe their "we lost the source code" excuse is just that, an excuse, and there's still bad blood between them and Itagaki. Even if it was true, other game companies have lost source code and still managed to find ways to rerelease their games anyway by ways such as reverse engineering.
Sorry for the essay, but NG is my favorite game series and I wanted to throw my knowledge in.
Something neat that I feel like bringing up would be that the first 15 years of television were live broadcasted, and could not be recorded properly, leading to no actual copies of these shows that could actually have been made or found, making them essentially permanently lost media, having no chance of ever being seen again
So sad to think about this. I personally am always losing something I loved, whether it be a piece of clothing or some sort of internet project. Crazy to think that certain media will forever be gone
Hi
Edit: Out of all of these, I want to see the 12 Oz. Mouse lost pilot the most. I didn't like the show, but its cool seeing how cartoons came to be. 😊❤️
Hello how you doing?
@@Klusterfrick I'm doing fine but I had better days though. 😅
@@amaibambina okay that’s cool. Glad to hear that
With Ninja Gaiden, while the source code is still lost, you should have noted that the games have actually been re-released and can still be purchased/played on modern Xbox consoles via backwards-compatability. That's how I bought NGB, and it's the way to go for most Ninja Gaiden fans since they got enhancements on there.
When I heard BBC for Thomas my heart instantly dropped because they most likely taped over it at some point.
you should do a video on partially-recovered media, media that was damaged but still recovered
Wow. I remember when the Ninja Gaiden collection was announced and everyone was upset about them "choosing" the Sigma versions. I have no experience with Ninja Gaiden, but it was sort of amusing to see.
But I didn't know they lost the source codes. That's a shame... and also sadly not the first time it happens. Iirc Square Enix is also really bad at archiving their source codes.
I highly reccomend Ninja Gaiden Black. Imo it's the best hack n slash action game ever. Far better than even the DMC and Bayonetta games imo, so if you like those it's a must play. The only thing I know about Sigma is it made the checkpoints fully restore health which cut down the difficulty in a bad way.
This can be said for most live stage shows that aren't on Broadway. I wanted to see Pasadena Playhouse's "Gather: Surprising Stories and Other Mischief" (a program of "story theatre") in 2019 but couldn't due to a number of factors (namely the fact that I couldn't find anyone willing to go with me to Los Angeles). Unless the cast or the Playhouse themselves recorded a dress rehearsal or performance night for posterity, it might as well be lost forever.
Another piece of lost media that doesn’t get talked about as much is the original master files of Deathconsciousness by Have A Nice Life. The album we have is from lower quality backup files Dan uploaded to Dropbox before their hard drive crashed and wiped the original recordings. I guess since it’s an open and shut case there’s not much to talk about, but it’s such an absolutely one of a kind album (one of my personal favorite albums of all time) I wish it got talked about more.
The best example of lost media that are lost forever are personal lost media. a good portion of youtube videos I've made back then were never archived and are pretty much lost forever. Because my videos were obviously not popular, its extremely infeasible for someone else willing to archive them when they still exist. Maybe you can relate to me with stuff you made that might be lost as well.
Losing hours of hard work is awful, ive lost so many videos over the years including an entire series that lasted for 2 seasons
But one video in particular caught my interest, it was an old plush video called ‘’toads accident’’ that i dont remember making at all
The description read ‘’toad tries to go to scuttle club but ends up going to the wrong place and gets stuck with waluigi’’
I dont have a single clue of what this video could be, if anyone knows anything please tell me
Wow, that sounds so surreal to find you lost something that you don’t remember. That’s some Twilight Zone shit right there!
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Where is this description coming from? If you don't remember making it, why do you believe some other person that says you did? Unless you have some kind of medical condition that makes it likely you would have forgotten that you did something, wouldn't your own memories be more reliable than some other person?
People on the internet lie about stuff like this all the time. For example, as a joke or prank some guy made up an entire seasons worth of episodes and contributed them to an online episode guide for a cartoon called "Street Sharks". This "tainted" episode guide was then referenced by others an many people believed these episodes really existed because of it.
@@KasumiKenshirou i replied with an explanation but youtube deleted it so heres a video i made showing it ua-cam.com/video/ijxmWmDIfRs/v-deo.html
@@KasumiKenshirou I assume he just used the Wayback machine and found it.
@@the4tierbridge yeah, I’ve come across things I don’t remember buying or making before. I’ve even come across pictures of things I don’t remember doing but, well, there I am in the picture and my relatives remember so I must have.
Ninja Gaiden Black is buyable and downloadable on the Xbone (and backwards compatible if you own a disk version)
Someday you should go down the ultimate rabbit hole of lost arcade games (that actually exists), Bouncer.
Yep, we will never see The Sad Story of Henry (1953) ever sadly.
Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the greatest games ever made. It's one of those I learned to love more the more I replayed it.
Honourable mention, the uncut version of the 1998 WWF Over the Edge pay-per-view. Because the full version includes the tragic death of Owen Hart, it was decided to be locked in a secure room labeled, "Never to be viewed, copied, or destroyed," in WWE's archives, likely out of respect to the Hart family. Other examples of the content kept in this room is the footage of Droz receiving the powerbomb that made him a quadriplegic and (I'm assuming) the Chris Benoit tribute show.
12 oz. Mouse is one of my favorite [AS] shows, so it really sucks to hear about the pilot being lost forever. I'd love to have seen it.
Here's one that goes back quite a few years. Anyone recall the animated version of "The Honeymooners", produced by Hanna-Barbera? It debuted at the same time that "The Flintstones" first aired. In fact, The Honeymooners animated used all of the same voice actors as The Flintstones. It was an early attempt at adult animation, and aired late on Friday night. However, it only ran for half a season. Sadly, today, it appears that no copies of that series still exist.
There one piece of lost media like this I know of called St.Francis of dream and Nightmares, an animated film that was destroyed during a Nazi invasion. Rumors have it that some animations cels are in the with collectors of rare items but it's unconfirmed
My favorite bit of probably-lost-forever media is the lost Marx Brothers film, Humor Risk. Which was unreleased and ended up being thrown away or destroyed. It would be really cool to see, since apparently it was made before they'd developed their iconic comedic personas.
Good stuff! And about Blast Wind's obscurity, don't quote me on this
but I could swear SEGA Lord X has covered it when highlighting good, lesser-known games for the Saturn
my dad is lost media that will be lost forever
Same.
Purple Light from Lomax, The Hound of Music is a great example of a piece of lost media that will be lost forever.