History of the Slavic Languages

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  • @tongobong1
    @tongobong1 4 роки тому +307

    This representation is heavily biased to modern countries. Example Hungary, Eastern and South Austria were slavic speaking places before the year 1000.

    • @dowmont6209
      @dowmont6209 4 роки тому +51

      And partly Romania and Moldova,and germany.

    • @alakazor9643
      @alakazor9643 4 роки тому +58

      @@dowmont6209 Moldova actually was completely slavic before vlachs migration.

    • @reikers
      @reikers 3 роки тому +34

      @@alakazor9643 nope, vlach means strange/stranger/foreigner in old slavon or slavic, they gave them this name because they didn't speak a slavic language and they couldn't understand them, they already lived in modern day romania, but not around the sea

    • @alakazor9643
      @alakazor9643 3 роки тому +22

      @@reikers Vlachs migration in modern Moldova was started in near X-XI centuries, before this moment it was completely slavic.

    • @reikers
      @reikers 3 роки тому +9

      @@alakazor9643 it was more avar not slavic

  • @mihanich
    @mihanich 3 роки тому +149

    Somebody needs to make a meme with Cyrill and Methodius saying "Slav, my son, you're a Christian now. Now it's time for you to choose between an alphabet we specially made for your language to fit it's phonetics, or you can choose an alphabet originally invented to write Etruscan and use shitloads of diacritics and digraphs. Catholic Slavs: Szczieczjaščžju

    • @madziamaddie9948
      @madziamaddie9948 3 роки тому +24

      Przeszkadza Ci to? xD

    • @kryn1u
      @kryn1u 3 роки тому +15

      ur wrong actually, cyryllic dont have proper phonetics for polish language. that's why we use ą ę ś ć ż ź

    • @kryn1u
      @kryn1u 3 роки тому

      @Zoej source?

    • @vampir1451
      @vampir1451 2 роки тому +14

      @@kryn1u little yus (ѧ) represents ę, big yus (ѫ) represents ą

    • @dragskcinnay3184
      @dragskcinnay3184 2 роки тому

      @Zoej true, early cyrillic ѫ and ѧ for nasal vowels, but it never had any letters to distinguish cz from ć, sz from ś and rz/ż from ź...

  • @iamseamonkey6688
    @iamseamonkey6688 4 роки тому +145

    2:20 let's just take a moment to acknowledge barcode romania

    • @9_9876
      @9_9876 4 роки тому +3

      Epic

    • @iulianneghina4870
      @iulianneghina4870 4 роки тому +16

      This is because the Old Church Slavonic functioned for the Romanian church as well as for the state chancelleries as an official language for many hundreds of years. It had the same status that Latin had for the Catholic Church. As the monasteries held the cultural monopoly of the Romanian space, OldChurchSlavonic continued to Slavicize the Romanian language also because the Orthodox Church saw Latin as an exponent of the Catholic Church (the enemy). Proper names, toponyms, river names, have been translated into Slavonic, remaining to this day in the official toponymy. The Cyrillic alphabet was used to write in Romanian until the middle of the 19th century, etc

  • @iljailit5438
    @iljailit5438 3 роки тому +69

    All in all really good video, jut several Slavic languages have longer history of their grammar than the video suggests (Bulgarian, Slovene, Slovak, to name a few) and the fluctuations of geographical extent of some of them have been slightly bigger than shown here.

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +4

      you know that Slovaks + Moravians and Panonian Slavs had one name: Slovieni

    • @Rhosus
      @Rhosus 3 роки тому +5

      @@881terror that's not exactly right either, it's like saying that "only" these slavic people were called slavs, which in fact were all the other ones too... since slovieni literally means "slav"... People oftentimes forget that humans back then didn't differenciate between each other that much when it came to nationality and so they went "ah yes, I'm slav" (funnily enough it also means that great moravia's true name is "kingdom of the slavs" and it's ruler was "king of slavs")

    • @Ponanoix
      @Ponanoix 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@Rhosus They were calling themselves Slavs probably because there was not something like a sense of nationality back then and all Slavic people used to call themselves similarly. They would probably call other Slavs, well, "Slavs", so "People of the word (those who can speak [our language])" and non-Slavs "Mutes" / "Nemci" (people who cannot speak [our language])

    • @pavlesevaljevic4623
      @pavlesevaljevic4623 Рік тому

      ​@@Ponanoixhow do you expalin north and south Sorbs in Lužica in germany and south Sorbs in Polan in relation to Serbs from Balkan. It is known that Lutschich Serbs had their "kneževina: in 600-700 a.c. They still live in that land which is not taken into acount on this map. It would be great if the video could be corected and posted again so that there would be no more missunderstandings left.

    • @kungszigfrids1482
      @kungszigfrids1482 Рік тому +1

      This video starts from when slavic split off from baltic. I think its reasonable since he doesnt start the video about germanic langauges from PIE either.

  • @simonm_25
    @simonm_25 4 роки тому +319

    I like your map style.

  • @bradleyagdern1477
    @bradleyagdern1477 3 роки тому +135

    this map is all wrong. The Croats weren't striped. They're checkered. It's a big difference.

    • @barivs8736
      @barivs8736 2 роки тому +7

      😂

    • @Vifnis
      @Vifnis 4 місяці тому +2

      This comment hits on another level.

    • @jandevisser2385
      @jandevisser2385 2 місяці тому

      This is no laughing matter

    • @herptek
      @herptek 29 днів тому

      ​@@jandevisser2385First things first.

  • @mashiah1
    @mashiah1 4 роки тому +297

    Old Novgorod dialect that was spoken in North Russia until 16th century is missing. It was very different from Old Russian, could be classified as its own branch(North Slavic)

    • @KIRILL-fl7cp
      @KIRILL-fl7cp 4 роки тому +90

      Not very but different from Rostov - Suzdal dialect. And from the combiantion of these two dialects the Old Russian has developed.

    • @Oleksij_Shelest
      @Oleksij_Shelest 4 роки тому +30

      @@KIRILL-fl7cp
      Good joke.

    • @KIRILL-fl7cp
      @KIRILL-fl7cp 4 роки тому +106

      @@Oleksij_Shelest
      Joke is ukranian propaganda you believe my friend

    • @Oleksij_Shelest
      @Oleksij_Shelest 4 роки тому +20

      @@KIRILL-fl7cp
      Sad. You can't make it better.

    • @ChirkunovIvan
      @ChirkunovIvan 4 роки тому +45

      It was not very different. It had some minor, but unique features, but basically, it was completely mutually understandable with other East Slavic dialects.

  • @shockhs7371
    @shockhs7371 4 роки тому +82

    Slavic influence enter in Romanian territory
    Italics: Damn you!

    • @chuckbrotton2449
      @chuckbrotton2449 3 роки тому +7

      Only as a liturgical language is Eastern Orthodox worship and scholarship

    • @PhoeniX-jc2vq
      @PhoeniX-jc2vq 3 роки тому +1

      @Osama Bin Laden West Slavs and East Slavs may be like that because of Russia. South Slavs... you know why. :)

    • @DEIYIAN
      @DEIYIAN 3 роки тому +5

      @@chuckbrotton2449 The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning. Just a natural melting pot culturally and genetically. Another aspect is that during the Romanian renascence in the 19-th century some thousand words of Slavic (not to say Bulgarian) origin were mechanically swapped with French, Italian or Latin ones, but that is also a normal process. Yet there are maybe not less than 10% of Slavic words in use and countless toponyms. Also the Romanian is part of the Balkan Linguistic Community with Albanian, Bulgarian and Greek. It was not a matter of bureaucracy like the Latin in the West.

    • @MeszikeChannel
      @MeszikeChannel 3 роки тому +1

      @@chuckbrotton2449 Nope, there is many slavic placename in modern Romania.

    • @AlexanderSSI
      @AlexanderSSI 3 роки тому +6

      @@DEIYIAN The whole of Europe was a melting pot, the area of Romania today is no different. And there was no "mechanical" removal of words. You can take a text before and after and you'll see no major differences. What actually happened is that during the "Romanian Rennaisance" alot of loanwords were introduced from the French language just like today we have alot of loanwords for IT/computer stuff from English.
      "The nowadays territory of Romania was inhabited by Slavic speakers since the very beginning" - Yeah, right! The Dacians/Getae/Tharcians/Carpians, even the Celts were in present-day territory of Romania earlier than the Slavs. What is the "beginning" for you lol?

  • @gansrusish4729
    @gansrusish4729 2 роки тому +47

    Video: History of the Slavs.
    Slavs: *aggressively hate each other in the comments*

    • @goranjovic3174
      @goranjovic3174 Рік тому +4

      Samo sloga Slovene Spasava! 😊❤
      Slava velikom Slovenskom rodu!

    • @Tomukmakto
      @Tomukmakto 7 місяців тому +3

      No. We love each other 🤗

    • @rb98769
      @rb98769 5 місяців тому

      To be fair the map does need some improvements.

    • @kociewiak208
      @kociewiak208 4 місяці тому

      Najlepsi jesteśmy my - Polacy - bo najbardziej nienawidzimy samych siebie, A potem wykorzystują to nasi sąsiedzi i nas podbijają.

    • @Den-z8z
      @Den-z8z 2 місяці тому

      Slavs,slavs never change

  • @boemiobe4t993
    @boemiobe4t993 4 роки тому +262

    Make baltic languages next! And then finno-ugric languages.

  • @ارحمنيارجوك
    @ارحمنيارجوك 4 роки тому +312

    Greeting SLAVIC LANGUAGEAS
    🇵🇱🇷🇺🇧🇾🇷🇸🇺🇦🇭🇷🇸🇮🇧🇬🇧🇦🇲🇰

  • @solidnuss2868
    @solidnuss2868 3 роки тому +453

    Ha: I am a Sorbian.

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 3 роки тому +50

      Hello brother from Serbia! 🥰

    • @r.t.5767
      @r.t.5767 3 роки тому +112

      @@Nista357 Sorbs are from Lusatia, not from Serbia :D

    • @r.t.5767
      @r.t.5767 3 роки тому +57

      Hi, greetings from polish neighbour!

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 3 роки тому +53

      @@r.t.5767 Sorbs are from Serbs that went to help Samo's empire and great Moravia against the Vatican and Teutonic genocide later. We are relatives.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Juri%C5%A1i%C4%87_%C5%A0turm

    • @Nista357
      @Nista357 3 роки тому +20

      @@r.t.5767 Hello brothers in PL! 🤍❤✊✊✊

  • @viktormilosevic8172
    @viktormilosevic8172 2 роки тому +193

    Very good map, its just biased towards modern borders and demographics. For example parts of Austria and the panonian basin were slavic speaking before the year 1000 and northern albania was predominantly slavic before the ottoman conquest, judging by ottoman tax reports. And kosovo was majority slavic until pretty recently.

    • @skend3489
      @skend3489 2 роки тому +15

      Wrong about Kosovo. Its Majority Albanian since hundreds of years. Whats pretty recently for you?

    • @viktormilosevic8172
      @viktormilosevic8172 2 роки тому +71

      @@skend3489 What does "since hundreds of years ago" mean to you. Albanians started settling there in larger numbers in the 18th century after the area was left depopulated from Ottoman reprisals. The settlers were were largely catholic but were forced to adopt islam soon after. After that point the Albanian population slowly rose up while the Serb population was dwindling due to atrocities commited by the Turks before the balkan wars, Bulgarians during WW1, Italians during WW2 encouraging Albanian irredentism, a standard divide and conquer strategy. After the world wars, Tito has plans for Albania to join Yugoslavia and the key was gifting kosovo to it so he made no effort to bring back the displaced families from the second world war. After that the Yugoslav wars marked the latest exodus of serbs from both Kosovo and other parts of former Yugoslavia. I hope this answers your question

    • @skend3489
      @skend3489 2 роки тому +3

      @@viktormilosevic8172 Even if it is True why should it matter now? You cant just Kick them out of their homes they didnt ask to be Born There, they didnt do anything to you but live in a land. And Kosovo had always had an Albanien Pop.

    • @skend3489
      @skend3489 2 роки тому +5

      @@viktormilosevic8172 Do you see where im going at? Todays Albanians in Kosova didnt emigrate they were just Born there they know nothing else. We dont have to argue over autochtony because what mattere is that we are all humans and humans wander and borders were always shifting in history. The Balkans is a Special case because of all the big Empires that were ruling over it for thousands of years.

    • @skend3489
      @skend3489 2 роки тому +6

      I can Tell you that northern albania was Never slavic. Since thousands of years only Albanians lived there

  • @CostasMelas
    @CostasMelas  4 роки тому +86

    Reuploaded to improve some points and fix some graphics problems

    • @fluviusOptio
      @fluviusOptio 4 роки тому +4

      I don't know if the spead of Eastern Slavic/Russian was that fast into Karelia/North. But I might be wrong. There is little knoledge/information about that. But there's atleat one mistake that I am sure. There was atleast no Russian speaking population in the Finnish Karelia(1917-1940/1944). After the WW2 Karelia was repopulared with mostly Russian speakers due to every Karelian and Finnish people leaving the "Old (Finnish) Karelia".
      I'm not sure about the situation during (1812-1917), but even then there must have very 'few' Russian speakers.
      There was maybe no Russia speakers in the northern "Finnish Karelia" due to that been part of Sweden (1658-1721).
      But its hard to say.

    • @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п 4 роки тому +3

      Where is Yaik cossaks? which conquere in the 16th century Nogay Horde en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural_Cossacks
      and, at least to the 20 century they was majority of Ural river population

    • @Oleksij_Shelest
      @Oleksij_Shelest 4 роки тому +5

      @@АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      Because Moxel "Cossacks" are finno-turkic people. They wouldn't even understand a single Slavic word.

    • @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п 4 роки тому +2

      @@Oleksij_Shelest Ural cosacks spoke on Finougric language? very interesting. Why they have russish names?

    • @Oleksij_Shelest
      @Oleksij_Shelest 4 роки тому +1

      @@АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      I think you use too untruthful history book to make any statement that I would believe into it.

  • @commanderjnm2008
    @commanderjnm2008 5 місяців тому +9

    If anyone is wondering why the region of Ruthenia (modern day Belarus and Ukraine) is also striped with West Slavic Polish Language in the mid 1500's, it is because of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth union from 1550 to roughly 1780, during which POLISH was the lingua franca of the commonwealth, and all aristocrats in Belarus and Ukraine spoke Polish (because the territiories of Ruthenia were all part of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth union). Only the working-class in Belarus and Ukraine spoke Ruthenian (Ruthenian= ancestor of modern day Belarussian and Ukrainian language) at that time. That's why Belarussian and Ukrainian (despite being EAST SLAVIC in origin), have HUGE West Slavic Polish language influences too, because of the Polish loanwords during the commonwealth era which seeped into Ruthenian language at the time. that's why Belarussian and Ukrainian is much easier to understand for a Pole than Russian for example. (Russian has much less Polish vocabulary language influences than either Ukrainian or Belarussian).

    • @pt3085
      @pt3085 Місяць тому

      Ruthenia is Latin for Russia. So all these territories were Russian. And people there called themselves Russian (русские) til XX century.

  • @masterofnordinbad8914
    @masterofnordinbad8914 4 роки тому +37

    Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language
    and slovenians inhabit all of Kärnten and styria in austria.
    And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century which meand that slovenian existed way beafore than what is showed in this video
    It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918

    • @amalgama2000
      @amalgama2000 3 роки тому +3

      Same thing with East Slavic languages. Belarusian and Ukrainian are more similar to Slovak/Sorbian/Czech then to Russian, because they evolved from the common language unlike Russian (from the Old Church Slavonic). But because of the location they all considered to be in one group

    • @kssrnotsoviet
      @kssrnotsoviet 2 роки тому +1

      @@amalgama2000 Czech? What
      They are mix of Polish and Russian

    • @amalgama2000
      @amalgama2000 2 роки тому +1

      @@kssrnotsoviet your expertise in languages and eternities is beyond poor. But it isn't strange if one take your nickname under consideration. All soviets are hard core delusionists

    • @bartlomiejsosnowski4840
      @bartlomiejsosnowski4840 Рік тому +6

      🇵🇱 🇨🇿 🇸🇰 🇸🇮 🔵🔴⚪💪

    • @pavlesevaljevic4623
      @pavlesevaljevic4623 Рік тому +2

      They have all in common that they were greatly influenced by germanic language. I speak Slovenian and Serbian. You can kind of tell how old is the language by how it sounds because it coresponds with duration of the opression from other non slavs. I am learning Macedonian and have many Macedonian friends, i can tell you thet there are a lot more "Slovenian" words in Macedonian language than in Serbian, even tho Macedonia is considerd to be the Old Serbia because early Serbian history happened predomenantly on that land. That coresponds with them being concured by Turks tham other parts of Serbia so it renaind more unchanged to this day because it was repressed. Slovenian was also repressed pretty early and for a long time, that is why they sound more similar even tho they are so far apart, plus foreign words they adopted. Next to be concord by otomans were Serbs and then after Serbs croats by austrhungary. You can kind of see the evolution of south slavic language from old south slavic (wersion of Slovenian and Macedonian) to Serbian (ekavica) and then to croatian dialect jekavica which is also spoken in Montenegro which was never concord by anyone (but they identify as Serbs and say they speak Serbian). I should also mention I actually originate from Montenegro from Njeguši (some people may be confused when I say I'm Serbian). The longer the sluth slavs stayed independant the more alive was the language and the faster it changed/evolved. I believe it would be possible to apply that teory to other slavic languages, it doesent necessarly mean they were opressed it cud also mean that they were just under stronger foreign influence. For example Russian kind of sounds like jekavica to me (just that they don't call it that, you know the use of the soft and hard letter). Cech, Slovach, Polish and Lužičko Serbian sound more similar to my ear, more "rough" like german.
      Love to all Slavic brothers and sisters, protect and cherish our language, tradition and faith.
      Glory to God in heaven, peace to earth and good will among us.

  • @dgsf9444
    @dgsf9444 4 роки тому +243

    No one:
    Comments: "This is the russian/greek/ukrainian propaganda!"

    • @dgsf9444
      @dgsf9444 4 роки тому +6

      @Multorum Unum Hieronymus Bosch "The Garden of Earthly Delights"

    • @dgsf9444
      @dgsf9444 4 роки тому +2

      @Multorum Unum Your welcome!

    • @dgsf9444
      @dgsf9444 4 роки тому

      @Чичо Радко That means that people act like that without visible reasons.

    • @РодионПриходько-ж8м
      @РодионПриходько-ж8м 4 роки тому

      Чё?

    • @amann9963
      @amann9963 4 роки тому +1

      Cho blyat'?

  • @aerohydreigon1101
    @aerohydreigon1101 4 роки тому +107

    4:17
    Top 10 Saddest Anime Deaths

  • @austenhead5303
    @austenhead5303 4 роки тому +35

    Slovene diverged from Serbo-Croatian only a century and a half ago? I find that hard to believe, they're quite different. Some of your info must be off.

    • @masterofnordinbad8914
      @masterofnordinbad8914 4 роки тому +17

      Slovenian is actually closer to czech and slovak language than other south slavic but because of location on the map and our history under yougoslavia they count us as sout slavic language
      And slovenian fist book is from 10th century and first dictionary was written in 15th century
      It is miracle that slovenian language still exist at first slovenians or carantanians were part of samo's kingdom and after that we had our country called carantania we fought wars with avars, franks and bavarians. Eventualy we surrender in year 828 and than we beacame duchy of frankish kingdom until year 900 after that franks give carantania under the bavarians and so slovenian language was forbiden until the end of austro-hungary empire in 1918

    • @DelijeSerbia
      @DelijeSerbia 4 роки тому +8

      map is wrong on so many levels.

    • @dragonitzgame
      @dragonitzgame 3 роки тому

      @@masterofnordinbad8914 So why do all linguists put it as a South Slavic language? It has nothing to do with the location.

    • @masterofnordinbad8914
      @masterofnordinbad8914 3 роки тому

      @@dragonitzgame idk probabli location and history
      I know that slovak language and czech language are way closer to alovenian than serbo croatian

    • @dragonitzgame
      @dragonitzgame 3 роки тому +3

      @@masterofnordinbad8914 maybe its like the case of English? It has more Romance vocabulary but its a Germanic language.
      Anyway, the video is a bit wrong, because in Austria and Hungary Slavs lived for a long time. Perhaps Slovenian is the link between the West Slavic languages and the South Slavic languages, and that is why it resembles both.

  • @evermay1582
    @evermay1582 4 роки тому +96

    Serbo-Croatian counted as one?
    As it always should have been ❤

    • @craftah
      @craftah 2 роки тому +29

      literally the same languages they just seperate because of politics

    • @pavlesevaljevic4623
      @pavlesevaljevic4623 Рік тому +4

      It is just a dialect no need for separation.

    • @kungszigfrids1482
      @kungszigfrids1482 Рік тому +1

      @@pavlesevaljevic4623 If serbocroatian is to be split in 2 based on dialects you would get serbocroatian and dalmatian.

    • @gordonpi8674
      @gordonpi8674 Рік тому

      Yes, and it will be that way, it will always be the same language with a few accents.

    • @skin4700
      @skin4700 Рік тому

      People will say its the same language but that name implies serbian dominance and thats why croats dont like it. Even thoe I can understand more of serbian than most of the island dialects of croatia. Its sad that we are not united but the time for that was 1200 years ago, we cannot be the same even thoe we are brothers.

  • @lordpolish2727
    @lordpolish2727 3 роки тому +138

    Very impressive and difficult task to complete! my only nitpick is that it was a bit early to see Polish dissapear in some of Silesia, in the areas north of the oder Polish was still generlaly the majority language until after the thirty years war, and as well as Opole

    • @Ponanoix
      @Ponanoix 2 роки тому +15

      Yeah, for example Wrocław was still a majority speaking, border-line polish city in 1650, only later did the german-polish line crossed it. But generally speaking, the germanisation of Silesia was pretty slow during Austrian times, only after Prussia, later Germany, seized the territory In 1742, the process became more rapid

    • @CrazyLeiFeng
      @CrazyLeiFeng 2 роки тому +16

      that video is wrong. Polish was spoken as a minority language throughout the whole of Ukraine (with exception of Crimea) and Belarus until extermination of Poles by Soviets in 1937-38. There were majority Polish areas near Minsk and Kiyv until that time. Lvov (Lviv) in Western Ukraine was majority Polish until Soviets expelled Poles in 1945-46. According to the Tsarist census of 1897 6% of Smolensk (Russia) population were Poles.

    • @lordpolish2727
      @lordpolish2727 2 роки тому +3

      @@CrazyLeiFeng Yes, you are right about that too

    • @andrewshepitko6354
      @andrewshepitko6354 2 роки тому +3

      At first time when I was in Poland and heard polish I had impression to be in middle age because of sounds of polish language. Great language

    • @Zrck33
      @Zrck33 2 роки тому +1

      Impressive, very nice...

  • @kao1895
    @kao1895 4 роки тому +98

    Rest in peace polabian slavs conquered by germans

    • @olaful5343
      @olaful5343 4 роки тому +7

      They are not killed

    • @ОгњенМилошевић-ь5к
      @ОгњенМилошевић-ь5к 3 роки тому +38

      @@olaful5343 but are forcibly assimilated

    • @johngalt1448
      @johngalt1448 3 роки тому +15

      If it were not for Russia, most, if not all, Slavs would have been overrun by Germans and others by now.

    • @kirilll7806
      @kirilll7806 3 роки тому +14

      Rest in peace east Germanic tribes

    • @nestingherit7012
      @nestingherit7012 3 роки тому +10

      And rest in peace Dalmatian language, that slavs made it extinct.

  • @Turagrong
    @Turagrong 4 роки тому +216

    1:14 That's... familiar...

    • @bruhsoundeffect2882
      @bruhsoundeffect2882 4 роки тому +76

      polish bois

    • @pavels.6670
      @pavels.6670 4 роки тому +46

      WHEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

    • @mierokatak322
      @mierokatak322 4 роки тому +12

      @River Piscean To że to mem związany z I RP, a te tereny przypominają dawniej przez nią posiadane - śmieszne czy nieśmieszne to nieważne, to mem

    • @anotherhumanbeing3923
      @anotherhumanbeing3923 4 роки тому +3

      China ?

    • @DanksterPaws
      @DanksterPaws 4 роки тому +12

      Whats with the two china replies. Is that the only thing that has that shape? Its not even relevant to the video. The shape looks similar to Polish-Lithuania or just Poland in WW2. Not the china china

  • @mikoajbojarczuk9395
    @mikoajbojarczuk9395 4 роки тому +36

    Finally! A video visually describing the history of the Slavic languages has emerged! Bring fourth our Slava!🇵🇱🇨🇿🇸🇰🇷🇺🇺🇦🇧🇾🇷🇸🇭🇷🇸🇮🇲🇪🇧🇦🇧🇬🇲🇰

  • @amatuspragensis6106
    @amatuspragensis6106 4 роки тому +57

    Beautiful history! Well done. But one thing I don't understand. Why Czech and Slovak separated in your map so late? As far as I know (and I am Czech), written Czech was first documented at the begining of 13th century and at the turn of 14th and 15th century, it gradually established as chancery language in Kingdom of Bohemia, Margriavite of Moravia nad Upper Silesian duchies. Approximately at the turn of 15th and 16th century, Czech also established as written language in Upper Hungary (i. e. what is today Slovakia), but in specific, definitely slovakized form, which means, that common spoken language in what is today Slovakia was in that time markedly different from spoken language in Bohemia and Moravia. It does mean, that also Slovak was at that time established as separate language. Not yet written, but definitely spoken. At the turn of 18th and 19th century, Czech literary language underwent extensive modernization (so called Czech national revival, which was basically reaction to preceding prolonged decline of the language), whilst Slovaks developed roughly at the same time genuine Slovak literary language (instead of slovakized Czech). But it definitelly doesn't mean that before 19th century were no separate Czech and Slovak languages. Please, don't take it as criticism. Your histories are awsome and I greatly admire you. It was just my minor factual note.

    • @rdtgr8
      @rdtgr8 4 роки тому +6

      I agree. Maybe I'm not an expert in Slovak history, but it's obvious that Slovak is significantly closer to Ukrainian and Serbo-Croatian languages and is quite understandable to speakers of them. From genetic point of view Slovaks are not so hard R1a-M458-dominated as Czechs, which makes them somewhat closer to R1a-Z280-CTS-dominated South-West and East Slavs. And simultaneously unlike Czechs and Poles they have quite much (16%) I2a, which is close to Slovene (22%) and Ukrainian (20.5%) levels, despite it's still much less than Serbo-Croates have (31-54%), however last exaggerated value may be explained via Founder effect work. So in total it's likely that Slovak from beginning was a mix of West Slavic (Czech) and Carpathian (Ukrainian, Serbo-Croatian, Slovene) dialects.

    • @mcarco118
      @mcarco118 4 роки тому +7

      @@rdtgr8 I think that I know the reason why you see slovak language as some kind of mix of western and carpathian slavic language. In my humble opinion it's because in 7-9th century in todays west and middle Slovakia was slavic tribe of Nitravians (ancestors of Slovaks) and on the east there were White Croats. One part of them later moved on Balkan and second stayed and most likely were assimilated. So mix of western Nitravians and eastern White Croats could caused that nowadays slovak language can be understandable to many other Slavic nations.

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 4 роки тому

      I'm guessing the "inaccuracies" are based on different quantity and quality of surviving historical records - things may suddenly appear different before and after gaps in the data instead of blurring through transition.
      Language drift and genetic drift are both constant yet gradual ... until contact with an outside population quickly imposes dramatic changes.

    • @pavlesevaljevic4623
      @pavlesevaljevic4623 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/8BpixH088xg/v-deo.html

    • @Vero_la_fea
      @Vero_la_fea Рік тому

      According to modern linguistics Czech and Slovak are the same language even today

  • @alexangelo1998
    @alexangelo1998 4 роки тому +21

    In the mid-9th century, Lower Pannonia was inhabited by a Slavic majority. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Pannonia_(9th_century)

    • @unikitty5131
      @unikitty5131 4 роки тому +1

      That is why Hungarians and Poles are best friends.

    • @mcarco118
      @mcarco118 4 роки тому

      I've read somewhere that "panonian Slavs" were living there until the year 1500.

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +2

      @@mcarco118 panonian Slavs + moravians + Slovaks are in one language family = Slovieni

  • @maciejkwiatkowski7558
    @maciejkwiatkowski7558 4 роки тому +40

    There is no certainty among historians about the extent of the Slavic languages before 400 CE. Pannonia before the invasion of the Magyars was also Slavic-speaking, although the Avars ruled there.

    • @VuleProductions
      @VuleProductions 2 роки тому

      Slavs were migrating to Byzantine territory trough Avar territory

    • @bobo-lu2ef
      @bobo-lu2ef 2 роки тому

      That was only the case for the Pannonian land East of the Danube. Slavs were a significant minority in the rest of Pannonia.

    • @basedchad6035
      @basedchad6035 2 роки тому

      @@VuleProductions invading but yeah

    • @dragonitzgame
      @dragonitzgame Рік тому +1

      ​@@basedchad6035 Migration is not the same as invation

    • @basedchad6035
      @basedchad6035 Рік тому

      @@dragonitzgame you dont think there were people before? You think they were happy their land got taken?
      Bruv dont be so naive. Its been a while. No reason to lie about that history

  • @ROCZONMAZUR
    @ROCZONMAZUR 2 роки тому +47

    Parabéns , um excelente trabalho , principalmente na tentativa de sincronização, sou brasileiro de origem eslava (polonesa), lendo os comentários você pode perceber que não consegue agradar a "gregos e troianos" , fique tranquilo foi um ótimo trabalho (nesse exercício temos que levar em conta o nacionalismo e o antagonismo étnico, muita besteira se produz para defender as ideias megalomaníacas ), do ponto de vista cientifico os linguistas e geneticistas estão contribuindo para preencher as lacunas dos arqueólogos, antropólogos e historiadores !

    • @MarcosVinicius-dh6fk
      @MarcosVinicius-dh6fk 2 роки тому +3

      eu sou decendente de venezianos, valeu por ajudar a defender veneza contra os turcos 😎👍

    • @paxetamor8276
      @paxetamor8276 2 роки тому +3

      @@MarcosVinicius-dh6fk Are you joking? in reality it is the Republic of the Serenissima that prevented the Ottomans from invading part of Montenegro, part of Croatia and part of Slovenia.
      keep in mind that the Venetians had already colonized some Turkish and Greek territories, up to Malta. Just to be clearer .... 😉

    • @Ponanoix
      @Ponanoix 2 роки тому +2

      Hello Brazilian of polish descent. I live in Poland and am of polish descent, similarly

  • @Bln-f9u
    @Bln-f9u 2 роки тому +25

    There is also a village on Sjælland (Denmark) called Kramnitse (or Kramnitze), wich was initially settled by slavs.

    • @michaelcalle2981
      @michaelcalle2981 Рік тому

      Slavs never reached Denmark at all and there's no evidence to proof it, the name kramnitise (Kramnitize) may not actually be of wendish origin but if its of slavic origin then it's proberly named because of Germans who were occupying and influencing some of Denmark with village names since Germany has lots of slavic names who then adapted it as their own. Slavs only reached to schielwig near anglia which is northern Germany (close to border of Denmark)

    • @michaelcalle2981
      @michaelcalle2981 10 місяців тому

      @@Bln-f9uThe slavs only traded with the Vikings during those ages but they NEVER ever settled in coastal areas of Denmark and Norway since they were ongoing conflicts between them and they never wanted wars between each other so they did only trade. Those are fully homogenous Germanic nations.

    • @michaelcalle2981
      @michaelcalle2981 10 місяців тому

      @@Bln-f9uTrade doesn’t also always mean intermingling with each other but by that logic it means eastern Slavs have Turkic and Mongolian ancestry because they raided them and did mass trade.

    • @БогданШабалин-д8х
      @БогданШабалин-д8х 8 місяців тому

      ​@@michaelcalle2981 Ukrainians and Southern Slavs sure have turkish influence, they are darker than other slavs. And tatars sure had common progeny with eastern slavs, because there are populations of tatars who have blue eyes, blonde hair and european eye shape, especially in Kazan city

  • @johniewalker4356
    @johniewalker4356 4 роки тому +29

    One correction old Church Slavonic was the official language (old Bulgarian) of the Bulgarian Tsardom.

  • @twistzaok
    @twistzaok 3 роки тому +11

    fun fact - there is a region with pomeranian speakers in Brazil

  • @numenoreaneternity6682
    @numenoreaneternity6682 3 роки тому +15

    The video is grossly inaccurate, Slavic speakers of the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th centuries should've been the vast majority in all of Southeastern Europe and mainland Greece, barring some isolated footholds of Latinitate and Koine Greek, like Monemvasia, Adrianople, Thessaloniki, and some cities on the Eastern Adriatic coast.

    • @VuleProductions
      @VuleProductions 2 роки тому

      Yeah Byzantine didn't even control that regions. Even Thessaloniki (Solun) had bunch of Slavs there

    • @nikolaistoyanov1720
      @nikolaistoyanov1720 Рік тому +1

      The author of the video was born in the south of Bulgaria. This explains all the inaccuracies that concern you.

  • @rafakrzentowski9549
    @rafakrzentowski9549 2 роки тому +12

    R.I.P Polabians (and Panonian Slavs, Dacian Slavs, Greek Slavs and Carantanians) lost slavic cousins [*]

    • @kosa9662
      @kosa9662 2 роки тому +2

      Carantanians are still alive, they call themselfs Slovenes

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 11 місяців тому

      @@kosa9662 But the Slovenian range now is smaller than it was earlier.

    • @silviueugen4069
      @silviueugen4069 19 днів тому

      Dacian slavs were basically bulgarians so theoretically they are still living

  • @arvantsaraihan5777
    @arvantsaraihan5777 4 роки тому +38

    I thought it'd be started from Proto-Balto-Slavic

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому

      yeah why he dont give that years before 50 A.D.?

    • @grandetristesse3370
      @grandetristesse3370 3 роки тому

      It all started from russia and Ukraine

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому

      @@grandetristesse3370 yeah from Ural to Caucasus and Dnieper river.

  • @drdekipetrovic7429
    @drdekipetrovic7429 4 роки тому +16

    Only we Serbs and our enemies Croats keep common language today until 2 thousand years!

    • @CapitanScimitar555
      @CapitanScimitar555 4 роки тому +9

      Why enemy?

    • @undefeated_romantic1692
      @undefeated_romantic1692 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, everything is like in the respectable family: it's a family and everyone hates each other, lol.

    • @bletrick3352
      @bletrick3352 3 роки тому

      @loder Man Yes and no. It’s definitely not only about religion even if it is the defining factor

    • @knin8917
      @knin8917 3 роки тому

      @@bletrick3352 Oh yes bolive me it's only because of religion.

    • @VuleProductions
      @VuleProductions 2 роки тому

      @@CapitanScimitar555 He probably is a fake Serb or chetnik from Yugoslav wars

  • @debnadaebna9981
    @debnadaebna9981 3 роки тому +22

    "Let foreigners, out of ignorance or negligence, take little care of them, but it is unforgivable for us to forget the Bulgarians from whose hands we received baptism, who have taught us to write, to read, in whose vernacular is our worship, in whose language for the most part we wrote almost to the time of Lomonosov, whose cradle is connected by inseparable knots with the cradle of the Russian people and so on. "
    Yuri Venelin on Bulgarian history in 1829
    ---
    In his article Protection of the Old Bulgarian Language (1990)
    Prof. Dr. Otto Kronsteiner from Austria writes:
    “The Old Bulgarian language has become the cultural language of all Orthodox Slavs. It was the first state literary language in Medieval Europe long before the emergence of European literary languages ​​- German, French, Italian, English, Russian "and Serbian inclusive, of course!
    ---
    "When Greek Christianity was officially accepted in Russia at the end of the 10th century, its distributors in Russia were mainly Bulgarian clergy. In this way, the Bulgarian language became the basis of the Russian Church and Russian literary language. "
    M. Fassmer, quoted by M. Popov, The Bulgarian People between the European Races and Peoples, Sofia, Court Printing House, 1938;
    “The influence of the Bulgarian language was felt extremely strongly by the Russians and Serbs until the 18th century, this influence weakened only in the 19th century, when vernacular elements entered the literature of these two peoples and replaced the influence of the old church influences. These influences were especially strong because the Russian Church Slavonic language also shows too much Bulgarian, and partly directly Eastern Bulgarian elements.
    М. Фасмер, Die Bulgarische Literatur im Zeitalter des Zaren Simeon und ihre Bedeutung für die Orhodoxe Slawenwelt, Berlin, 1929
    ---
    "The orthography of our (ie Russian, b.a.) manuscripts from the middle of the XV century is a reflection of the orthography of the South Slavic (more precisely of the Middle Bulgarian) manuscripts. It is clear that between the middle of the XIV and the middle of the XV century, the Russian script came under the very strong influence of the South Slavic script and ultimately submitted to this influence. "
    Alexey Sobolevsky
    ---
    "Bulgaria in the 15th century as a whole is this huge center through which the Byzantine influence in Serbia and Russia passes, a center through which this influence gets its Slavic color, strengthened in the numerous translations, which reflect the written reform of Patriarch Euthymius."
    Dmitry Likhachev

    • @misterpikes7600
      @misterpikes7600 2 роки тому +1

      What does that mena ? That Russians used the Kyrilic alphabet after Bulgarians ?

    • @crimsonfarts6856
      @crimsonfarts6856 2 роки тому +7

      @@misterpikes7600 borrowed the alphabet as well as Christianity from Bulgarians

    • @misterpikes7600
      @misterpikes7600 2 роки тому +1

      @@crimsonfarts6856 Since both came to you from the Romans same could be said about you . No point taking pride from something you didnt create and someone also uses

    • @crimsonfarts6856
      @crimsonfarts6856 2 роки тому +5

      @@misterpikes7600 Our alphabet was invented by greeco-born bulgarians and we got our religion from the Byzantiums

    • @misterpikes7600
      @misterpikes7600 2 роки тому

      @@crimsonfarts6856 did i say something wrong ? dont think so

  • @vencitumbaka7888
    @vencitumbaka7888 4 роки тому +14

    Slavic Macedonian came into existence only in 1944. It is Bulgarian language as a base written on a Serbian typewriter with selective replacement of words, letters, imported elements just to make it sound distinct from Bulgarian.

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому

      Alexander of Macedon: i am joke to you?

    • @crimsonfarts6856
      @crimsonfarts6856 2 роки тому +1

      @@881terror Alexander is greek

    • @mareksagrak9527
      @mareksagrak9527 2 роки тому +1

      @@881terror Do not mistake the ancient Macedonian language (which was a close relative of ancient Greek and dissapeared slowly together with hellenisation of original Macedonians) with the modern, Slavic Macedonian language. They have absolutely nothing in common beside the name, even the teritorries they were spoken are mainly different. -_-

  • @ErmisSouldatos
    @ErmisSouldatos Місяць тому +3

    The Slavs were probably less than 0.1 million or 100k around 300 AD, confined to a small and remote corner of Europe, then they rapidly took all of eastern Europe, later also taking the Ukrainian and Siberian Steppes, now they number something like 300 million. One of the biggest demographic turnarounds that happened within recorded history

    • @islammehmeov2334
      @islammehmeov2334 11 днів тому +1

      Well if we go with your logic TURKIC we're probably less than 0.1 million are 50k around 120 bc. Confined to a small landlocked and remote corner of the Altai mountains, later also taking CENTRAL ASIA CARCASSES ANATOLIA all the way to THRACE now there number something like 270 million and the population is still growing especially among MUSLIM TURKIC PEOPLE unlike the European how popular is decreased 😂

  • @велимир-ю4я
    @велимир-ю4я 2 роки тому +13

    Seeing the sorbs slowly disappear 😔

    • @Slawny_luziski_Wojak
      @Slawny_luziski_Wojak 2 роки тому +8

      My smy a hišće tu budźemy 💖🔵🔴⚪💖

    • @велимир-ю4я
      @велимир-ю4я 2 роки тому +4

      @@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I am Sorbian myself

    • @велимир-ю4я
      @велимир-ю4я 2 роки тому +4

      @@Slawny_luziski_Wojak I support Lusatian Independence and the slavicization of the German race. Germans are already 1/3 slavic.

    • @haulawcoast
      @haulawcoast 2 роки тому +2

      @@велимир-ю4я wtf nazi

  • @stkosta2482
    @stkosta2482 3 роки тому +8

    Turkic people: conquering ancient Indo-European (Scythian lands)
    Slavs: *And i took this personally*

  • @SornGeorge
    @SornGeorge 3 роки тому +23

    Great work - small correction: Pomeranian should be noted as Kashubian. Source: a Kashubian.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  3 роки тому +4

      Thank you

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      It's a dialect

    • @SornGeorge
      @SornGeorge 3 роки тому +2

      @@juniorcrusher2245 your point is?

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      @@SornGeorge the videos talking about languages. Kashubian is not a language

    • @SornGeorge
      @SornGeorge 3 роки тому +5

      @@juniorcrusher2245 so you take issue with Pomeranian being depicted in the video or with me noting this is Kashubian? Also, what makes you feel you need to let the world know about your opinions? Are you a linguist or a Kashubian?

  • @nonusolarozationeatoumatic6239

    Slavs as fast as Rome falls: LET'S DO THIS

  • @КурсыиностранныхязыковвМоскве

    If the proto-slavs knew how their offsprings would fight and hate each other would they decide to split up?

    • @kirilll7806
      @kirilll7806 3 роки тому

      Nope

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      Yes

    • @guppy719
      @guppy719 2 роки тому

      There wasn't a choice, areas back then were much more isolated from each other without modern technology

  • @tereska8272
    @tereska8272 4 роки тому +92

    Silesian: Am I a joke to you

    • @stefankowalski347
      @stefankowalski347 4 роки тому +14

      Nie słyszałem nigdy nikogo mówiącego w tym języku, nawet na Śląsku. Ja sam mieszkam na Śląsku i nie znam żadnego słowa po śląsku

    • @Pingijno
      @Pingijno 4 роки тому +22

      @@stefankowalski347" Nie ma czarnych łabędzi, bo żadnego nie widziałem "

    • @stefankowalski347
      @stefankowalski347 4 роки тому

      @@Pingijno Dobrze, w takim razie poprawię

    • @peter-w
      @peter-w 4 роки тому +10

      Greetings from a silesian living in germany 🙋‍♂️

    • @tonit4233
      @tonit4233 4 роки тому +2

      Not bigger joke than Macedonian that's for sure

  • @renatocampos3114
    @renatocampos3114 4 роки тому +11

    seeing the comments of this video kinda weird
    -Latin language speakers are friendly to each other
    -German-speaking speakers are friendly to each other
    -Slavic language speakers seem hostile to each other

    • @marchesadigroenlandia3487
      @marchesadigroenlandia3487 3 роки тому +2

      @Dragan L This video doesn’t even consider Germanic or Romance speaking people, it doesn’t depict them neither in an hostile or a friendly way, I dunno why you’re so triggered and calling conspiracy on a video about Slavic languages because they didn’t show the spreading of languages that aren’t part of the family.

    • @kgbgb3663
      @kgbgb3663 Рік тому +1

      It's taken centuries of hard work by Latin-speakers and Germanic speakers to get it that way.

  • @davydko1507
    @davydko1507 4 роки тому +22

    We do not speak Church Slavonic in Ukraine, it is only used in some Orthodox churches.

    • @Acid_doughnut
      @Acid_doughnut 4 роки тому +12

      Davyd Rusyn Думаю, що мається на увазі, що церковнослов´янський мав вплив на русинський та український пізніше. Так само, як і польська. Ну, а наразі київський ізвод церковнослов´янскої є офіційною мовою церкви.

    • @81pieda
      @81pieda 4 роки тому +10

      Hence why it's shaded on the map and not in "full color"

    • @naelerasmans322
      @naelerasmans322 4 роки тому +1

      What language do you use in church? Ukrainian? Or Latin? As I remember, you have a mix of orthodox and roman catholicism, do you?

    • @ОлексійСтешенко-ц8л
      @ОлексійСтешенко-ц8л 4 роки тому +12

      @@naelerasmans322 Ukrainian-speaking churches use Ukrainian without OCS (Old Church...) words, while Russian/ and Russian-speaking churches in Ukraine use modern Russian+OCS

    • @alexey056
      @alexey056 4 роки тому +6

      Если у тебя хороший словарный запас, то любой славяноязычный человек может прочитать текст на церковнославянском, он будет понятен всем славянам без исключения, это как эсперанто среди славян своего времени.

  • @grzegorzracicki756
    @grzegorzracicki756 4 роки тому +71

    Now Berlin but in the past Kopanica - slavic village.

    • @unikitty5131
      @unikitty5131 4 роки тому +28

      Berlin is correct in Slavic language, it is a Slavic town name.

    • @alexander6108
      @alexander6108 4 роки тому +19

      Copnic was a Village. It was not Berlin. Brlo was the word for Berlin.

    • @noaoah3662
      @noaoah3662 4 роки тому +4

      That’s quite interesting, there is a neighborhood in Berlin called Köpenick. Im assuming it was a village which was integrated into Berlin, but Berlin had its own name like other comments have said

    • @dnrnfnfcmdndnddj2968
      @dnrnfnfcmdndnddj2968 4 роки тому +13

      Yes and Brandenburg was called Branibor. In serbia we still have some village names like kopanica and branibor. We serbs came from that region and there are still lusatian serbs living there. They speak sorbian

    • @INecr0
      @INecr0 4 роки тому +3

      - The name Berlin has its roots in the language of West Slavic inhabitants of the area of today's Berlin, and may be related to the Old Polabian stem berl-/birl- ("swamp").
      - Dresden's name etymologically derives from Old Sorbian Drežďany, meaning people of the forest.

  • @konstantin6949
    @konstantin6949 4 роки тому +28

    Ruthenian language began the splitting process much more earlier than you shaw. At least in the XVI century Ukrainian and Belarusian languages were separated. The first evidences of literary Ukrainian language were documented in the XVII century. Also Ukrainians had self-determination word as Rusyns up to the XX century. So called "Rusyn language" you marked is nothing more than the Ukrainian dialect. Try again.

    • @naelerasmans322
      @naelerasmans322 4 роки тому +8

      Modern rusyns living in the Carpathian region have the separate language.

    • @naelerasmans322
      @naelerasmans322 4 роки тому +3

      @@SergMaly Who says? They do. Rusyns tell so, wiki tells so. How can you proof your opinion?

    • @davydko1507
      @davydko1507 4 роки тому +11

      @@naelerasmans322 Wikipedia is not proof, and the person who says something is also not proof. The word "Rusyn" refers to all Ukrainians, not just those who live in Transcarpathia. I live in Dnipro (central Ukraine) and I can identify myself with both names.

    • @naelerasmans322
      @naelerasmans322 4 роки тому +6

      @@davydko1507 I already understood where are you from, huh. A person who says something is not a proof, and you also aren't.
      Is international academy of Rusyn culture the proof?

    • @Oleksij_Shelest
      @Oleksij_Shelest 4 роки тому +7

      @@naelerasmans322
      Rusyn and Ukrainian is synonymous terms. If someone call himself Rusyn he basically mean Ukrainian. What exactly are you cannot understand?

  • @turagrong9308
    @turagrong9308 4 роки тому +15

    4:31 This is particularly the one I like the most

  • @asitwaghmare01
    @asitwaghmare01 4 роки тому +11

    Make a video on Indo-Aryan languages next plz

  • @ярик_хаддавэй
    @ярик_хаддавэй Рік тому +5

    интересно, но был упущен один момент в истории восточно-славянской ветви. речь о древненовгородском и древнепсковском диалектах. они существовали примерно до века 15го и впоследствии оказали влияние того, каким впоследствии стал русский язык. впрочем, в видео это и показывается, как russian, соседствующий с ruthenian, в нашей науке известном как западнорусский. такие-то нюансы, думаю в истории всех славянских языков что-то такое найдётся

    • @Necroctulhu
      @Necroctulhu 2 місяці тому +1

      Так это ж диалект. Если все диалекты тут показывать то это видео надо под лупой смотреть

  • @galiapetrova45
    @galiapetrova45 4 роки тому +9

    This is the map of belarussian language in 1903 : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yefim_Karsky#/media/File%3ABelarusians_1903.jpg

    • @alexey056
      @alexey056 4 роки тому +2

      В России любят белорусский язык и Беларусь, и её народ. Все перемещены, поэтому о чётких границах говорить трудно. Не думаю, что в Смоленске как то по другому поймут белорусский язык, чем в других регионах России.

    • @alexander6108
      @alexander6108 4 роки тому +4

      This is not the belarussian map language. This is the the map of dialects. They just spoke russian with different dialect.

    • @janeza382
      @janeza382 4 роки тому

      Ruthenian?

  • @bogdancrnokrak74
    @bogdancrnokrak74 Рік тому +4

    Unfortunately, this map is also wrong. There are no traces of Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija before the 17th century. On this map it is shown as if there were no Serbs there at all

  • @VanaheimrUllr
    @VanaheimrUllr 6 місяців тому +1

    Dont forget to give the video and author a thumbs up.. Its so deserved. This is so cool, and just so fast put things into perspective, this is honey for my brain.

  • @신중용
    @신중용 2 роки тому +15

    🇷🇺Благодарю вас!
    🇺🇦Дякую!
    🇧🇾Дзякуй!
    🇵🇱Dziękuję Ci!
    🇨🇿Děkuji!
    🇸🇰Ďakujem!
    🇸🇮Hvala vam!
    🇭🇷Hvala vam!
    🇧🇦Hvala ti!
    🇷🇸Хвала вам!
    🇧🇬Благодаря ти!
    🇲🇰Ви благодарам!

    • @user-xg9yg8kg7i
      @user-xg9yg8kg7i 2 роки тому +2

      In Russian we rather say "Спасибо" or in some regions "Дякую", "Благодарю" is more formal version. Slavs are the best :)

    • @vladexsto6356
      @vladexsto6356 2 роки тому +4

      @@user-xg9yg8kg7i Никогда не слышал что бы говорили "дякую" в России, в каких регионах так говорят?

    • @user-xg9yg8kg7i
      @user-xg9yg8kg7i 2 роки тому

      @@vladexsto6356 На юге вроде так говорят, но не все, у нас к сожалению диалекты вытесняются литературным стандартом. Но я знаю, что раньше, когда диалекты были больше развиты, такая форма вроде бы была более распространенной.

    • @vladexsto6356
      @vladexsto6356 2 роки тому

      @@user-xg9yg8kg7i Только что читал о происхождении этого слова, оказывается оно происходит от немецкого " danke" и родственно английскому "thank". Вот так всё интересно

    • @user-xg9yg8kg7i
      @user-xg9yg8kg7i 2 роки тому +1

      @@vladexsto6356 Да, я знаю. Оно не происходит от него, оно просто родственно ему, потому что германская группа языков и славянская родственны, обе ветви индоевропейские, если хочешь почетай.

  • @digdug1431
    @digdug1431 3 роки тому +14

    The split of south-west slavic languages into the ancestors of Slovene and Serbo-Croatian was around year 800 ad. And Austria was populated by Slavic people during this time too, before it was colonized by the Bavarians.
    It's a neat looking video, but I am willing to bet that it got a lot of other things wrong in the regions with which I am less familiar. Ultimately, it might prove useful to some Americans. But for everyone else, it is just a waste of 5 minutes.

    • @TheOlgaSasha
      @TheOlgaSasha 3 роки тому +3

      But we have to thank him as he is not Slav. At least he tried to show their scholars opinion. While our Slavic "scientists" (I do not talk about all of them) didn't any analogic video for Americans and Western Europeans...

    • @sum_ergo_cogito
      @sum_ergo_cogito 3 роки тому

      no, there was no split.

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheOlgaSasha Slavic official scientists (I do not talk about all of them) just copy and paste everything about history from german guy Friedrich Maurer who making german propaganda in 1942. That why our history is lie. Germans never write true about Slavic people and in 1942 = no chance.

    • @adnankamen6470
      @adnankamen6470 Рік тому

      The term Serbo-Croatian has only been around 1824 and it was termed by a German dictionarist and folklorist Jacob Grimm, imagine how different it would have sounded 1000 years prior.. probably almost unintelligibly different.. Therefore your recommendation is nonsensical and as a Bosnian pisses me off. not only does the term completely undermine the Bosnian and Montenegrin influence and development of this branch of Slavic, you want to further erase another 800 years of our connection with our language.. BKS or BKMS is a much fairer term to define this branch of the Slavic language..

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, video has plenty of errors.
      Originally, they Slavs were forming one group since 6. and 7. century with no dialectal differences.
      Split between West and South Slavs was around 800 AD. Czech and Slovak were originally developing in South Slavic group with Karyntian/Slovenian/Serbo-Croatian. The reason for Czech/Slovak/Serbo-Croatian unity was probably a series of common countries (Samo's country, Great Moravia).
      Bavarian and Frankish efforts to take over today Austria (Austria east of today Salzburg) and establishment of Margraviate of Austria, as well as arrival of Magyars around year 900 caused separation Czechs/Slovaks with the rest of South Slavs.
      After separation of South Slavic group by Magyars, Czech/Slovak and Lechitic group created a more uniform group due to interaction.

  • @levershredder
    @levershredder 9 місяців тому +3

    Most of kazahstan, all of dagestan, chechnya, all of tatarstan are speaking russian. A lot of people in Georgia, Armenia, all of Belarus. Around 70% of ukraine until 2022 spoke russian too. This map is more like about nations, than languages, but for some reason its called 'languages map'

    • @2dav7ry
      @2dav7ry 9 місяців тому

      This is about native speakers, not diaspora. Then the map would be completely different. Nobody speaks Russian at home in Dagestan, while for Ukraine it would be around 40% (incl. southern and eastern regions), if these regions aren't included, around 15%. But you can obviously see the that the Russian language is in southern and eastern Ukraine on the map, so where's the problem?

    • @levershredder
      @levershredder 9 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@2dav7ry>15% in all of ukraine excluding south and east
      i think that even after 2022 this is barely the case. Before it anything eastern than Zhytomir was 80% russian.
      >what is the problem
      Belarus, kazakhstan, tatarstan, are not a 'diaspora', but 100% native speakers. Excl. south kazakhstan. So, they should be painted as full russian along with ukraine up to rovno-zhytomir line until 2022.

    • @2dav7ry
      @2dav7ry 9 місяців тому

      @@levershredder Funny, because I live near Vinnytsia, also close to Zhytomyr. 😄 I can't hear any Russian here, only if you go to the city of Vinnytsia, you can hear some Russian, but it's usually mixed with Ukrainian + there are many people from Eastern Ukraine. I also have family in the Cherkasy region, I couldn't hear any Russian there. But obviously, when I was in Kharkiv, everyone spoke Russian there. So southeastern Ukraine definitely speaks Russian, but the rest of Ukraine, not really. I'd say Hungarian or Romanian are more common, but where did you find such data? 🤔

    • @ivydark9741
      @ivydark9741 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@2dav7ryKiev spoke mostly Russian till 2022. )

    • @2dav7ry
      @2dav7ry 9 місяців тому

      @@ivydark9741 Kyiv yes, but not the region.

  • @sahincelikkol8569
    @sahincelikkol8569 4 роки тому +14

    These guys expanded like crazy

    • @fidenemini111
      @fidenemini111 4 роки тому +4

      Do you mean like cancer?

    • @ionbrad6753
      @ionbrad6753 4 роки тому +2

      @Русский парень No, he has something against expansion. So do you. I bet you wouldn't like some other nation expand over your land, force you speak another language etc.

    • @OrkosUA
      @OrkosUA 4 роки тому

      @Русский парень dude, he merely expressed that he was excited to see how fast and far did slavic people spread, he has nothing against slavs, relax.

    • @ShadowStormCZ
      @ShadowStormCZ 4 роки тому +3

      @@ionbrad6753 well thats what germans and austrians done to us....

    • @konradkurland5090
      @konradkurland5090 4 роки тому

      @Русский парень Have you got something against cancer? :)

  • @АртемАртем-ы2ш
    @АртемАртем-ы2ш Рік тому +13

    Какими же стойкими типами были наши пращуры. Поклон им до земли за дела их вековые

  • @VELIkiq8
    @VELIkiq8 3 роки тому +6

    You can clearly see that they wont call it bulgarian its south esat slavic, south slavic, old curch slavonic or something.
    And now see the hate in my coments ;¬)

    • @AlexAhmedov
      @AlexAhmedov 3 роки тому +2

      Всички са Български Old church slavonic bulgarian

    • @blagoevski336
      @blagoevski336 Рік тому

      ​@@AlexAhmedovnope

  • @lukaszklopotek
    @lukaszklopotek Рік тому +9

    ERROR: 1945-2022 - 200'000 Polish speaking citizens in western Ukraine. The red lines shouldn't have been erased in that area.

    • @petarprasevic
      @petarprasevic 10 місяців тому

      Majority polish people leaved western Ukraine after WWII. Now in western Byelorussia there are places with polish speaking population, but in western Ukraine (eastern Galicia)- no.

    • @ivydark9741
      @ivydark9741 9 місяців тому

      ​@@petarprasevicthey probably ran away from their after being massacred by Ukrainians in Volhynia.

    • @petarprasevic
      @petarprasevic 9 місяців тому

      According census 2001, in Ukraine (all) was 144,100 ethnic Poles. But they are not all Polish speakers.

    • @petarprasevic
      @petarprasevic 9 місяців тому

      @@ivydark9741 during that time all Poland was occupied by Nazi. Where they ran to?

    • @Dan-u1e
      @Dan-u1e 9 місяців тому

      Error: 1945-2022 - 150'000 Ukrainian speakers citizens in “Recovered Territories”. The light blue lines shouldn't have been erased in that area. Also, according to the 2001 Ukrainian census, there were only 19 195 persons in Ukraine who called Polish their mother tongue, which is even smaller than the number of people in Poland for whom the Ukrainian language was native at the time. Even the genocidal actions of the Polish government didn't manage to change that.

  • @Ida-xe8pg
    @Ida-xe8pg 4 роки тому +27

    My eyes are concentrating on Romania and Kosovo

    • @duyo96
      @duyo96 4 роки тому +9

      I can't belive he made this shit on Kosovo, automatic dislike

    • @9_9876
      @9_9876 4 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @multiak3631
      @multiak3631 4 роки тому +5

      @Mustafa Küçükkürtül he's triggered about the fact that kosovo was always populated by the illiro-albanians

    • @newha3715
      @newha3715 4 роки тому +5

      @@multiak3631 "iliro-albanians"

    • @bot.1263
      @bot.1263 4 роки тому +2

      Adriatic Star ancient illyrians aka Albanians

  • @quffazalaswad2549
    @quffazalaswad2549 4 роки тому +5

    Good job! The pre-1944 eastern border of Finland is incorrect though, and Hungarian was the prevailing language in the south of modern Slovakia until WWII too

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +2

      and where is Panonian Slavs and principality of Balaton?

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      He shows it as mixed

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +1

      @@juniorcrusher2245 but they was not mixed. They was Slavic

  • @polmaclin3019
    @polmaclin3019 2 роки тому +4

    The history of the Slavs before their baptism began is a mystery, shrouded in darkness, and the history of the emergence of the Slavic language and its division into Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Czech and others is generally unknown.The author you guess on the coffee grounds.

    • @ivydark9741
      @ivydark9741 9 місяців тому

      We have a clear Indian influence in some words and ornaments, yet the mythology is similar to Scandi.

  • @outerspace83
    @outerspace83 Рік тому +3

    I only came upon your channel recently and already made a similar comment on the languages of Europe video, but I think you are underestimating the Slavicness of Austria in the early middle ages. In the 5-600s, Slavs became a majority in roughly 2/3 of the area - to this day, there are clear examples of Slavic derived placenames dotted over all of Carinthia, Styria, Lower Austria as well as East Tyrol (Lienz District), Southeast Salzburg state (Tamsweg District), and Southeast Upper Austria (Kirchdorf and Steyr districts). It's very difficult to make a good timeline for the germanization of these areas but similar to Eastern Germany it was a process that must have taken centuries. My guess is it probably didn't start for real until the 800s and probably wasn't completed until maybe 1050 for Lower Austria, 1200 for Styria, and is still ongoing in Carinthia.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for the comment. Indeed there was a more massive Slavic settlement in part of present-day Austria. Maybe I'll fix it in a future remake

  • @ゲッツーロボ463型
    @ゲッツーロボ463型 2 роки тому +5

    Shocking to see Germany speaking Slavic languages before 1000

  • @ristusnotta1653
    @ristusnotta1653 4 роки тому +24

    Sad to watch as a Finn, all those Uralic tribes going extinct while Russia is expanding

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 4 роки тому +26

      They hadn't. They'd only adopted Slavic language and intermixed with newcomers. The antropogenic type of Northern and central Russians is more than 50% finnic. In my region it' s wery clear. Our finnic population (Komi Permyaks) still persists, and it's wery hard to distinguish Komi and Russians by speech or appearance. In fact, both are intermixture of both)).

    • @ristusnotta1653
      @ristusnotta1653 4 роки тому +8

      @@vadimpm1290 many of them are extinct atm and the ones that are still there are struggling to preserve their language and culture

    • @ristusnotta1653
      @ristusnotta1653 4 роки тому +10

      @Артём Кузнецов indians? I just said im a Finn, not 😂

    • @JamesBandera
      @JamesBandera 4 роки тому +8

      @@ristusnotta1653 I knew it. Those bloody Finns were so thirsty for blood that they went to America and started to kill countless Indians. Shame on your ancestors!

    • @Andrij_Kozak
      @Andrij_Kozak 4 роки тому +1

      make Finland Greater again Moscow wants to hide their real history. They are not Slavs but a mixture of Finno-Ugric tribes and Tatars.

  • @robsterlobsterr
    @robsterlobsterr 2 роки тому +8

    4:54 funny that the moment this song played that last note, the Russian language left the Caucasian countries

    • @extraditori6604
      @extraditori6604 2 роки тому +3

      It's still spoken here in Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan

    • @robsterlobsterr
      @robsterlobsterr Рік тому +1

      @@extraditori6604 true but not at the rate that they did during the Soviet Union

  • @nikitospilesos3869
    @nikitospilesos3869 2 роки тому +4

    Hm, it means that Ukrainian and Russian are not the same, right? Yeah, they were East - Slavic but according to the map Russian appeared earlier and not from Ruthenian as Ukrainian language. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @СвятославЛис-э8ц
      @СвятославЛис-э8ц 2 роки тому +8

      At a time when nations did not yet exist, the proto-Ukrainian and proto-Russian peoples were separated by a natural barrier - a large forest with swamps, so due to poor communication, their languages were created separately.

    • @sert87
      @sert87 2 роки тому +7

      What language appeared earlier is a silly question. Languages change over time and Russian that appears on this map in 1500s wasn't the same as it is today.
      All modern East Slavic languages are equally related to East Slavic language.
      Ukrainian / Russian / Belorussian split has to do with political divisions of Russia, Poland and Lithuania. After the Mongol invasion many Russian principalities in the south and west became part of the Grand duchy of Lithuania (split into Russian and Ruthenian). Galicia (modern western Ukraine) became part of Poland. Later Lithuania entered a personal union with Poland and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was born. Within that commonwealth modern Ukrainian territories of Lithuania were passed to the Kingdom of Poland (split of Ruthenian into Ukrainian and Belorussian).
      All these changes are very gradual and complicated however and the map doesn't really reflect it. It's very basic / schematic. The people speaking the Ruthenian language would probably just tell you that they are speaking Russian. And people speaking East Slavic would tell you they're speaking Slavic or Russian. All these would be different from modern Russian of course. The names on the map are just historiographic terms.

    • @nikitospilesos3869
      @nikitospilesos3869 2 роки тому

      @@sert87 Okay thanks for your essay but I didn't ask what language appeared earlier.

    • @АндрейБогуславский-б9о
      @АндрейБогуславский-б9о 2 роки тому

      Ruthenia-c'est la Russie en langue Latine !!!!!!

    • @yutolifo3811
      @yutolifo3811 2 роки тому +2

      @@АндрейБогуславский-б9о Да, ты прав, что Рутенией звали Русь, но тут имелось ввиду русинский язык (Ruthenian language).
      Эх, жаль, что мы не узнаем, на каком языке говорили простые люди в Киевской Руси, ведь писали на церковном, который является искусственным и не был похож на разговорный.

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 3 роки тому +9

    Rip all the Baltic tribes that got eliminated by the Slavic migrations

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      They just moved to today's baltics. They were eliminated.

    • @TheOlgaSasha
      @TheOlgaSasha 2 роки тому

      @@juniorcrusher2245 Balts were just assimilated.

  • @aleksmalalan5478
    @aleksmalalan5478 4 роки тому +19

    1:26 Austria was all slavic

    • @ShallIMove
      @ShallIMove 4 роки тому

      No, it's Hungary.

    • @aniinnrchoque1861
      @aniinnrchoque1861 4 роки тому +1

      Austria as Regio Noricum just like Helvetica was Celtic.

    • @digdug1431
      @digdug1431 3 роки тому +3

      @@aniinnrchoque1861 Sorry, the Celts were already Latinized and absent from Inner Austria by this date.

    • @aniinnrchoque1861
      @aniinnrchoque1861 3 роки тому

      @@digdug1431 I mean yeah in the early 7th century there were at most only gallo-romance remnants left as the Slavs pushed in around that time

    • @iljailit5438
      @iljailit5438 3 роки тому +1

      Depends in which time but approx. in 7th century, the most western Slavic settlements were roughly on the line Linz - Lienz.

  • @runtav_guz8564
    @runtav_guz8564 2 роки тому +13

    I like how you can't call Southeast slavic and Old church slavonic what they actually are Bulgarian and Old Bulgarian

    • @vrdsam2
      @vrdsam2 Рік тому +1

      The Bulgar were Turkic warrior tribe. Bulgar was Turkic language which was spoken by the Bulgars. While the language was extinct in Danubian Bulgaria, it persisted in Volga Bulgaria, eventually giving rise to the modern Chuvash language.
      Qazan Tatars.Volga Bulgars.Tugan yak Native land Tatar song: ua-cam.com/video/2VYg1xZl_A4/v-deo.html

  • @alexandermarkov300
    @alexandermarkov300 2 роки тому +6

    You forgot Old Novgorodian (North-East Slavic), which separated from Old Russian quite early, probably before the 9th century.

    • @АндрейБогуславский-б9о
      @АндрейБогуславский-б9о 2 роки тому +1

      До конца 15 века существовал. Уже во время Ливонской войны 1558-1583 гг. вышел из употребления.

    • @alexandermarkov300
      @alexandermarkov300 2 роки тому

      @@АндрейБогуславский-б9о Спасибо, кеп.

  • @abloodorange5233
    @abloodorange5233 4 роки тому +5

    Very well done. It's interesting that Crimea and southern Ukraine were not Slavic until 1770 therish. What were they before? Turkic I am guessing? Or something else?

    • @thenewparallel
      @thenewparallel 4 роки тому +20

      Yeah, Crimea was Turkic

    • @thenewparallel
      @thenewparallel 4 роки тому +14

      The southern Ukraine was almost deserted, it was called Dikoe Pole (Wild Field)

    • @abloodorange5233
      @abloodorange5233 4 роки тому

      Okay cool

    • @TheOlgaSasha
      @TheOlgaSasha 4 роки тому +11

      Did you heard something about Crimean Goths?

    • @JurzGarz
      @JurzGarz 4 роки тому +4

      They spoke Crimean Tatar, a Turkic language.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 5 місяців тому +4

    I find it unlikely that slovenian is less than 200 years old. Can anyone give me the details?

    • @josiprakonca2185
      @josiprakonca2185 4 місяці тому +1

      Primož Trubar was the author of the first printed book in Slovene language. He was born in 1508.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 4 місяці тому +1

      @@josiprakonca2185 Now thats much more reasonable.

  • @Anton_Danylchenko
    @Anton_Danylchenko 4 роки тому +22

    Your maps for early Slavic period are incorrect. Before VI century there were no Slavs to the north of Pripyat river (in Belarus and western Russia) at all. That region was almost purely Baltic (from Vistula in the west to Oka in the east). Slavs migrated to Northern Belarus and to North-Western Russia in VII-VIII centuries in two waves - one from the south and another from the Baltic sea shore. Those tribes were like Slavic islands in huge Baltic sea. In case of Ilmen Slavs (Novgorod) - they settled on Finno-Ugric territory. In Rus' time the Vladimir-Suzdal principality had mostly Finno-Ugric population, Slavs only lived in big cities.

    • @alexey056
      @alexey056 4 роки тому +10

      Откуда такие данные? Если бы было большинство финоугров, то логично, что и говорили бы мы на финоугорском или влияние было бы сильное, а язык оставался неизменным долгое время, это потом деление пошло, в 18 веке малороссийское наречие пошло, потом в 1917 всё переросло в украинский язык, а белорусский берет своё начало в 15 веке, до нас дошли письменные источники и книги, судопроизводство на белорусском зафиксировано, они стали печать раньше чем в России книги. Даже если взглянуть на южных славян, что они тоже получается островками были среди "балканских народов"? Или чехи с поляками, тоже это не нации, а островки среди немцев( влияние немцев конечно есть по культуре), только " украинцы" истинные славяне получается?

    • @vyrobnyk6362
      @vyrobnyk6362 4 роки тому +3

      @@alexey056 Сейчас логично на территории России проживает незначительное количество финно-угорских народов, количество которых небольшое из-за ассимиляции. В 1897 году еще было 1 млн человек, которые говорили на мордвинских языках. Соответсвенно понятен масштаб ассимиляции за столько веков?
      Даль писал, что великорусский получился в результате смешения малорусского с чудскими диалектами. Сегодня разве что по оканью можно углядеть это, так как было навязано московское наречие. Особенно в Новгороде.
      Да и в русском огромное влияние церковнославянского. Шахматов назвал его русифицированным церковнославянским.
      Так же Даль писал, что новгородское наречие похоже на малорусский язык. "Ять" иногда читают по-украински, как "і'". Так же и слова украинские присутствовали: пончохи, черевики, почекать, пиун (пивень), даси, частица "що" вместо "что".
      Генетически у русских тоже 16% финно-угорской гаплогруппы N1A1, а у северных русских даже больше финно-угорской (35%), чем славянской R1A1 (34%).
      То есть рассказывать, что "малорусское наречие" появилось в XVIII веке - это норм по-твоему? Юго-Западным наречием украинский был еще во время Руси, но после монгольского нашествия и последующего пребывания в условиях разных государств, где в XV веке и был государственным общий для белорусского и украинского западноруский язык, великорусский и малорусский с белорусским разошлись в две отдельные ветки. Западнорусский - это так же не разговорный белорусский, а книжный язык, в котором было много церковнославянизмов. Академик Толочко и фиксирует расхождение древневосточнославянского на языки в XIII веке. А в XVIII веке на украинском уже и литература появилась, так что о каком наречии может быть речь?
      Печатать книги на разговорном языке стали раньше. То же Пересопницкое Евангелие, которое написано на разговорном украинском. Только, увы, эти процессы не продолжились и вскоре опять вернулись к церковнославянскому, а не разговорному языку. Например, в Киево-Могилянской академии преподавали именно церковнославянский. Высшее образование тоже раньше, чем в Московском государстве, появилось. Первое высшее учебное заведение в Москве открыл выпускник Киево-Могилянской академии Симеон Полоцкий. Этот факт так же усилил влияние церковнославянского на русский язык.

    • @alexey056
      @alexey056 4 роки тому +1

      @@vyrobnyk6362 Знаете, данные генетики русских людей очень разнятся, я не знаю откуда вы брали такие данные, но я думаю, что вы как и я брали информацию из различных статей в интернете, так вот в каждой статье данные разнятся, где то вообще пишут, что 1% татарского элемента у русских, где то пишут, что около 40 % , про финно-угров либо пишут, что очень маленький процент, а где то пишут, что русские это вообще не славяне, а тюркский народ. И где же здесь правда? Каждая статья создана авторами, которые преследуют определённые политические цели. С другой стороны всё зависит от того у какого человека мы берём генетический материал, у нас, в России, по данным последней переписи населения около 80 % назвали себя русскими. Но не все же из них славяне, в том понимании, какие они были в 8 веке и так далее, у нас в стране, как и во всём мире каждый в праве решать кем ему быть, у нас любой человек может назвать себя кем угодно, но для генетической статистике это вредит, все смешались за несколько сотен лет, поэтому можно взять светловолосого, голубоглазого "финно-угра", который себя считает русским, и провести днк тест, и он покажет, что этот русский, например, на 85% имеет финно-угорские корни, и таких случаев может быть сколько угодно. А если посмотреть генетический состав украинцев, то там тоже можно найти много кого, и татарские элементы, можно и включить хазарский элемент, а в древности здесь жили сарматы и скифы, которые тоже тюрские народы, ну или ироноязычные , если про сарматов, а сарматы жили, где Карпаты, даже есть версия, что "Карпаты" произошли от их наименования "сарматы". А сколько переселение народов было, войн и так далее, все перемешались. Поэтому данные генетики надо использовать очень осторожно. А по факту надо судить так: русские и украинцы выглядят как славяне? Выглядят. Говорят ли они на славянском языке? Говорят. У них одна вера? Одна.
      Про словарь Даля я не могу вам что то сказать, я не читал его, тем более не сравнивал новгородское наречие, с малороссйским или украинским языком, могу сказать точно, что новгородцы не считали себя украинцами. Во время русско-шведских войн, а также с Ливонией, Литвой, Польшей, Новгород как и Псков яростно защищались, они же могли отделиться от Россия, если Москва столько страданий принесла им, но они этого не сделали, потому что это чувство оно сидит глубоко внутри, и они понимали где чужаки, а где свои. Недаром Псковские земли называют Западными Воротами России. Здесь можно вспомнить Богдана Хмельницкого, который тоже сделал выбор в пользу России, помните под какими лозунгами мы воссоединились? Дословно и я не помню, но всё сводилось к чувству воссоединения по родству и вере, которая была и остаётся одна. Если вернуться к наше любимой генетике, то украинцы, белорусы и русские, это практически один народ, даже англоязычные статьи, с какой-то нехотью, но признают этот факт, с оговоркой, что на Западной Украине сложился отдельный этнос. Просто поймите, что не было Украины, Беларуси, и даже России, как таковой. Была Киевская Русь, и те люди считали себя русскими, абсолютно все, никто себя не считал украинцым, белорусом, россиянином. Но мы русские, которые живём в России хотим быть и остаёмся приемниками Киевской Руси, а вы не хотите, и создали себе Украину. Мы сколько воевали с татарами, чтобы называться русскими и быть независимыми, а вы терпели притеснения со стороны Литвы, но больше от Польше. Поэтому мы отстояли своё право называться русскими.
      Сейчас конечно есть украинский язык и белорусский, но поймите, что мы были разделены на протяжение многих столетий, мы набрали в язык татарских элементов, а вы польских и литовских, поэтому язык отличается, но он был одним общерусским или древнерусским. Но вы не хотите сравнивать факты, вы( не про вас лично) просто упёрлись в карту расселения славян и говорите, вот это "Украина" в 6 веке. И с рождения вас учат, что Россия это зло. Вот в России поверьте мне нет ненависти к Украине и Беларуси.
      Много можно ещё сказать, но мы с вами не враги. Отличия просто в менталитете, а не в крови, а менталитет складывается в процессе истории, хотя даже спустя сотни лет он остался практически один, потому что вера одна и язык похож.
      Живём в 21 веке, и нас, Россию и Украину, пытаются столкнуть лбами, кому это выгодно? России? Украине? Не думаю. У наших стран есть много проблем, которые надо решать. А не бодаться как бараны, Россия это понимает, но Украина, к сожалению нет.

    • @alexey056
      @alexey056 4 роки тому +1

      @@vyrobnyk6362 кто то из английских мыслитей сказал: Language is a dialect with army and navy. ( Язык - это любой диалект, но с армией и флотом.)

    • @mihanich
      @mihanich 4 роки тому +1

      @@alexey056 это вообще-то сказал один польский мыслитель еврейского происхождения, и при том на идише: "а шпрох из а диалект мит армее унд флот"

  • @vladexsto6356
    @vladexsto6356 2 роки тому +5

    Очень интересное видео, спасибо!

  • @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д
    @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д 4 роки тому +4

    3:42 it is interesting that Liutprad of Cremona writes that in the northern parts of Europe there live a people who in appearance are called Ρουσιος (Rusios / Reds), and in their place of residence they are called normans (northerners), but normans are Scandinavians, not Slavic.

    • @TheOlgaSasha
      @TheOlgaSasha 4 роки тому +7

      It is not a new fact. Here, in Ukraine, we all learnt even at school that Rus or Ruth were the Normannic people. The Byzantian chronicles of 10-11 centuris call more than 50 names of "folk of Rus" from Kiev (Koenugard), and they all were Scandinavians...Actually, Kievan Rus was a polyethnic medieval state ruled by Normanns and their main dynasty of Rurikids till the Mongolian invasion to Kievan Rus.

    • @naelerasmans322
      @naelerasmans322 4 роки тому +3

      @@TheOlgaSasha As I remember, Rurikids was the main dynasty till the 16 century and then tzars became to Romanovs.

    • @алексгай-я5й
      @алексгай-я5й 3 роки тому

      @@naelerasmans322 the Romanovs ruled until the 18th century. then the German dynasty ruled, although they called themselves novels.

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +1

      When was maded DNA test on norwegian and Icelandic people there was founded high percentage of east european DNA R1A around 20-30%. And did you see funeral speech of Swedish king Charles XI? Thats mixture of Polish and Russian not Swedish

    • @mihanich
      @mihanich 3 роки тому

      @@881terror at that time there were Russian speaking areas ruled by Sweden east of the Baltic sea (Neva estuary, Yam-Koporye, Karelia etc). And the speech was translated to Russian using Latin alphabet for Russian speaking subjects of the crown. It was also translated to Finnish and other languages.
      I think knowing about that document and not knowing that swedes actually ruled over some Russians at that time is kind of cringeworthy.

  • @mihanich
    @mihanich 3 роки тому +4

    Don't look at comments. You were warned.

  • @Nome_utente_generico
    @Nome_utente_generico 2 роки тому +3

    Very useful. Thank you. I always wondered how s Country so close to Italy as Slovenia has a so different lenguauge from neolatin

  • @Ecoman365
    @Ecoman365 4 роки тому +24

    "Old Church Slavic" is also known by its original name, "Old Bulgarian," since it is based on the Bulgarian dialect in Aegean Macedonia (today in Greece, the land of my ethnic Bulgarian ancestors).

    • @Miloshmkd
      @Miloshmkd 4 роки тому +8

      Nonsense.

    • @TheBobVova
      @TheBobVova 4 роки тому +2

      @Fact: Islam is wrong He is not.

    • @TheBobVova
      @TheBobVova 4 роки тому +1

      @Fact: Islam is wrong About "Old Bulgarian".

    • @TheBobVova
      @TheBobVova 4 роки тому +3

      @Fact: Islam is wrong It's false.

    • @TheBobVova
      @TheBobVova 4 роки тому +4

      @Fact: Islam is wrong
      ---based primarily on the dialect of the 9th-century Byzantine Slavs living in the Province of Thessalonica (in present-day Greece).
      ---first Slavic literary language
      ---literary, not vernacular

  • @HermitKing731
    @HermitKing731 6 місяців тому +2

    How prevalant is old church Slavonic nowadays?

    • @ПепельныйБлондин
      @ПепельныйБлондин 4 місяці тому

      На нём никто не говорит. Есть "церковный славянский язык". Он используется в церковных службах. Но этот язык отличается от древнего славянского.

  • @dpw6546
    @dpw6546 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow, that must've taken a lot of time to compile for sure. Talking about painstaking work.
    However, the Proto-Slavic area shown in the first minute of the video was in vast majority Baltic or Proto-Baltic.
    On the other hand a huge chunk of the actual Proto-Slavic area has been left blank where it should've been marked Proto-Slavic: that area was approximately the Odra and Wisła basins (+ some middle reaches of the Łaba), naturally restricted by the sea in the north and various mountain ranges in the south. Bordering (Proto-)Baltic in the north-east and east, Thracian in the south-east, Celtic to the south-west and Germanic in the west (also not forgetting the "das drittes Volk" there who were Proto-Balto-Slavic kin of some kind).

  • @Turagrong
    @Turagrong 4 роки тому +17

    Video: Take this as facts
    Comments: Complete chaos

  • @Pidalin
    @Pidalin 4 роки тому +3

    Before WWII: strong German speaking minority in Czech lands and Poland
    Hitler: I don't like it, I want more
    After WWII: No german speaking minority in Czechoslovakia and Poland
    Hitler: fuck

    • @user-xz4ck8zs2u
      @user-xz4ck8zs2u 4 роки тому +2

      I know that is only a joke, but Germans are actually the biggest minority in Poland (around 150.000 people) mainly in the Opole region. Their biggest political party (Mniejszość Niemiecka) has even a seat in the Polish parlament.

    • @Tomanprg
      @Tomanprg 3 роки тому

      Silná německá minorita v předválečném Polsku? Asi se musím dovzdelat nebo vám uteklo, že v případě Polska se tak trochu posunuly hranice.

    • @juniorcrusher2245
      @juniorcrusher2245 3 роки тому

      @@user-xz4ck8zs2u the biggest minority is Ukrainians now with over 3 million

  • @markymarco2570
    @markymarco2570 3 роки тому +10

    01:14 Atilla clearly helped the spread.

    • @bossschmutzfink9865
      @bossschmutzfink9865 3 роки тому +1

      Avars

    • @881terror
      @881terror 3 роки тому +1

      it seem like attila was Slavic or official historician lie and Slavic had way bigger teritory

    • @danilapolesciuk4316
      @danilapolesciuk4316 2 роки тому +1

      At that point Attila was dead for like a century

    • @markymarco2570
      @markymarco2570 2 роки тому

      @@danilapolesciuk4316 means nothing

  • @sixteoriolllenassegura9577
    @sixteoriolllenassegura9577 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are awesomeeee

  • @maciejniedzielski7496
    @maciejniedzielski7496 4 роки тому +52

    Sława!

  • @Ecoman365
    @Ecoman365 4 роки тому +8

    GREETINGS TO ALL SLAVS from an American descendant of ETHNIC BULGARIANS from the REGION of Macedonia! /My ancestors in the Greek (Aegean) section of Macedonia spoke a BULGARIAN DIALECT, not the FAKE "Macedonian Language," created by Tito's "scholars" in Communist Yugoslavia during the 1945--1952 period./

    • @knez-bg
      @knez-bg 3 роки тому +1

      Поздрав от България! ☦️🇧🇬

  • @viterzbayraku
    @viterzbayraku 4 роки тому +9

    Like for Ruthenian.

  • @davidanderson9664
    @davidanderson9664 4 роки тому +9

    Top notch! Спасибо very much! D.A., J.D., (atty, writer, Russian student) NYC

    • @robertab929
      @robertab929 11 місяців тому

      Video is plenty of errors.

  • @urospetrov5216
    @urospetrov5216 4 роки тому +28

    This is wrong on a lot of levels

    • @kkuwura
      @kkuwura 3 роки тому +11

      What exactly is wrong about it?

    • @bradleyagdern1477
      @bradleyagdern1477 3 роки тому +1

      @@kkuwura really? REALLY? You know what's wrong about it, Yoon? Ignorant people like you! THAT's what's wrong about it. Sheesh! You should be ashamed of yourself.

    • @DK-tv6rk
      @DK-tv6rk 3 роки тому +4

      @@bradleyagdern1477 wat

  • @HEKVT
    @HEKVT 8 місяців тому +2

    Not sure why UA-cam wanted me to see this but I'm not against it.

  • @hungariancountryball2928
    @hungariancountryball2928 2 роки тому +3

    Cool

  • @rampantmutt9119
    @rampantmutt9119 4 роки тому +9

    How do we know slavs lived west of the Vistula before the post-roman migrations?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  4 роки тому +31

      Some scholars connects Przeworsk culture with Slavs. Also the Vistula Veneti of the Romans connects with the Slavs. It is believed that they lived around Vistula before the German expansion in this area

    • @robrobski9445
      @robrobski9445 4 роки тому +1

      Vistula used to be called vandala

    • @ErZu_
      @ErZu_ 4 роки тому

      @@CostasMelas fun fact, the name of Baltic sea is from slavic word Balto. And what about ,,łużycka,, (sorbian) culture? 1800bc. It is slavic or germanic?

    • @wojciechbieszk1074
      @wojciechbieszk1074 4 роки тому

      @BartoszTV teza o rzekomych ilirowenetach jest zupełnie absurdalna. W czasach kultury łużyckiej nie było jeszcze ani germanów ani celtów ani słowian ani tym bardziej półmitycznych ilirów. Ludzie ci mówili najprawdopodobniej północnozachodnim dialektem języka praindoeuropejskiego

    • @duwang8499
      @duwang8499 4 роки тому +1

      @@ErZu_ We don't know yet where the name for the Baltic sea came. It could have been Germanic, Latin or Balto-Slavic.
      What the Lusatian culture spoke is unknown. Most probably some sort of Indo-European language.

  • @zvjatouslawinc.7098
    @zvjatouslawinc.7098 4 роки тому +25

    Было очень интересно! Спасибо!

  • @oleksandrvershygora3346
    @oleksandrvershygora3346 10 місяців тому +1

    Wrong maps. Where are Slavic languages in Carpathian bassin? They were there up to XIX century.

  • @pitombaroxa
    @pitombaroxa 2 роки тому +8

    Muito bom. Muito legal. Bem entendido através deste mapa ver expansão do língua eslava. Parabéns.

  • @fordruzvelt675
    @fordruzvelt675 4 роки тому +11

    please do about the history of the Turkic language! Thank you!

  • @안강현-u2e
    @안강현-u2e 2 роки тому +3

    Great!