The performance seems more than adequate for whoops. I'll probably use this going forward mainly due to the thickness of the receiver. It'd be nice to cram it between the frame and battery tray like that.
@@ATXAirborne You mentioned problems with 500hz packet rates on the spi boards. Is that personal experience or is there somewhere I can read more about this?
@@kurtzFPV It's a well documented hardware limitation of the SPI ELRS receivers. They simply won't bind if your Tx is set to higher packet rates, you must use 250Hz or lower packet rates, which btw is not really a problem for 99.99% of us, you just have a tiny bit more latency.
Thank you very much for the excellent testing and review of these ELRS receivers. I ended up buying the BetaFPV ELRS Lite with the flat antenna, but I received version 1.1 which it seems has improved reception. I have stuck it in the back of a Darwin Baby Ape and it's a good combination, works like a charm, and thanks to your testing it seems I don't really have to worry about range.
Really great channel. Information is thorough without getting boring and the on-screen examples of everything you're saying makes everything so unambiguous. And Nick Burns was right, your editing is stylish and adds to the videos.
My prop sucked my ep ceramic receiver in and didnt like it so it sspat out chunks of it, make sure your rx is fastened..nearly a year on drones already killed 2 baby apes v1 n v2 not for beginners..maybe v2is 3rd one 1st built foxwhoop ate my rx..still working on that 1! thanx for sharing i cant buy one after breaking 2 havent even used a pack yet..keep it up mate good content
@@ATXAirborne Agreed, even when I take my whoops outside of my place, it's usually a small park, or a single level of a parking garage, and that antenna provides more than enough range/penetration for that.
As I was watching this video I was literally stacking my HDZero Whoop Lite board on top of my BetaFPV AIO with cube antenna, while trying to get the best orientation possible to minimize how much space is wasted (!!@$#@!$!) and I hear your words "that antenna sticking up off the board does kinda limit..." urgh YEA, now I wish I watched your video before building this whoop!!! Kinda wish whoop boards would maybe put the cube antenna BELOW the board (same side as USB port?) maybe that would solve the problem of stacking vtx'es above the board ... but maybe that would introduce other problems (I ain't an RF engineer...). Enjoyed the video, thanks for your insights (as usual).
Great review/testing.. After a few early quality issues with the Happy Model and later the Flywoo receivers I switched to Matek. They are harder to fit in a whoop do to their bigger size though. But they've been flawless and the build quality is top notch. As I understand, they have an onboard telemetry amplifier as well?? I wonder if you've tried them.
@@ATXAirborne I'd be curious how they compare with signal myself, I've put 8 of them in and not a dud in the lot. I figure for around $5 more I'll stick with what works for me.
Hello I've a Radiomaster TX16s (version 1) and the betafpv expresslrs elrs 2.4ghz 1W Micro Module. I can't change the 10W value, in the module joistick or in the LUA software, Do you have an ideia what maybe is the cause?
have an Emax hawk pro and I want to know what is the best Express ELRS receiver to put into the drone an have the best distance and clarity for that type of drone? can you give me a response please!
I need to know I’m learning the express ELRS, I have a Emax hawk pro And I want to know what ELRS board would you recommend that I put in it? and should I go with this tower antenna one or should I go with the auxiliary antenna to give me more range and better connection? can you tell me how I should approach this because I want to be able to fly it is far as I can as long as the video feed will hold up and because I can bump that up to around 800 max, And That would help when flying further distance. let me know bro
When did you get the flat top BetaFPV receiver? Is it the new revision or the original batch which had problems with range and got recalled (BetaFPV is sending replacements for it).
I like the T-Pro a lot. I did a review of it a while back and have been using it as my primary radio since then. The stick ends are from Thumb Grippies, and I chose them because they’re the shortest stick ends I can find. The main issue with the T-Pro is that the gimbals stick up unusually high.
ELRS 2.4 on both. Try using 2.4, they did make some improvements. Is your unit from the first batch or did you get it more recently (within the past month or so)
@@ATXAirborne There's a reason calling themselves "BETAfpv" was very apt, as if you buy, you will be doing their testing and quality checking for them!
You will most likely be able to do it, but you will probably need to solder an additional wire between the ELRS receiver and the flight controller because I believe FlySky only uses 3 wires. The best bet is to look up a wiring diagram for the flight controller on your whoop and make sure there is a TX and RX pad available that you can use. I have a video that goes through how this works for ELRS, and it explains this in detail: ua-cam.com/video/XNkidFPuWdw/v-deo.html I hope it helps!
I'm not really sure what you mean. I tried to present the data clearly so everyone could decide what they think. I clearly said at every point that the BetaFPV receiver didn't perform as well. But I do think it still has a place with it being as small as it is. I hope you don't feel that any of that was misleading, and I certainly did not intend to misrepresent it.
@@ATXAirborne Hey, sorry if you thought I was having a dig. Your video was concise, fair and informative as always and I appreciate the work you put in. It was just a smiley glib comment because you feature a lot of BetaFPV and I am personally bias against them for very frustrating and expensive experience. Please keep up the good work as I enjoy your content.
Thanks. No worries. I’ve had good experiences with BetaFPV stuff so far, although I know they aren’t without their problems. It’s really mostly a coincidence that I’ve had more of their stuff on the channel lately compared with other brands. New product releases have been a little slow lately due to Covid lockdowns, so some of the other stuff I cover hasn’t really had new releases lately. I think things are looking better now though.
I have reviewed and tested both of these. I prefer the Fat Ant. i reached oiver 1.3km's with it!!! Crazy range. it was attached to a BetaFPV 95x V2. Check out my vi if you want to see more (After you finished watching ATX of course!) Cheers mate. Great review as always! SP 😀
Fantastic video, Daniel 🏆
Very well conducted and produced with interesting and informative results. Thanks!
The performance seems more than adequate for whoops. I'll probably use this going forward mainly due to the thickness of the receiver. It'd be nice to cram it between the frame and battery tray like that.
getting back into fpv and im glad your still here
Bro, awesome test. Thanks! But i must say i am also impressed with your production! Very well done!
This was really well done. Thanks. I like how you used the stills to compare all at once.
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it.
@@ATXAirborne You mentioned problems with 500hz packet rates on the spi boards. Is that personal experience or is there somewhere I can read more about this?
@@kurtzFPV It's a well documented hardware limitation of the SPI ELRS receivers. They simply won't bind if your Tx is set to higher packet rates, you must use 250Hz or lower packet rates, which btw is not really a problem for 99.99% of us, you just have a tiny bit more latency.
Thank you very much for the excellent testing and review of these ELRS receivers. I ended up buying the BetaFPV ELRS Lite with the flat antenna, but I received version 1.1 which it seems has improved reception. I have stuck it in the back of a Darwin Baby Ape and it's a good combination, works like a charm, and thanks to your testing it seems I don't really have to worry about range.
Nick lead me here.. glad he did.. looking forward in watching more of your test - specially with ELRS ecosytem!
This could not have come at a better time for me, having just bought the HappyModel Slim Pro for my T2.
Really great channel. Information is thorough without getting boring and the on-screen examples of everything you're saying makes everything so unambiguous. And Nick Burns was right, your editing is stylish and adds to the videos.
Thanks! I’m glad you like it.
My prop sucked my ep ceramic receiver in and didnt like it so it sspat out chunks of it, make sure your rx is fastened..nearly a year on drones already killed 2 baby apes v1 n v2 not for beginners..maybe v2is 3rd one 1st built foxwhoop ate my rx..still working on that 1! thanx for sharing i cant buy one after breaking 2 havent even used a pack yet..keep it up mate good content
Awesome comparison between these here. I'm impressed by how well the flat antenna held up all considered.
Me too! I think people tend to always want the best, but IMO all three antennas are great and more thar sufficient for whoops.
@@ATXAirborne Agreed, even when I take my whoops outside of my place, it's usually a small park, or a single level of a parking garage, and that antenna provides more than enough range/penetration for that.
As I was watching this video I was literally stacking my HDZero Whoop Lite board on top of my BetaFPV AIO with cube antenna, while trying to get the best orientation possible to minimize how much space is wasted (!!@$#@!$!) and I hear your words "that antenna sticking up off the board does kinda limit..." urgh YEA, now I wish I watched your video before building this whoop!!! Kinda wish whoop boards would maybe put the cube antenna BELOW the board (same side as USB port?) maybe that would solve the problem of stacking vtx'es above the board ... but maybe that would introduce other problems (I ain't an RF engineer...). Enjoyed the video, thanks for your insights (as usual).
Came to your channel at Nick Burns recommendation and glad I did, great video!
Thanks and welcome!
Great comparisons some actually really useful info. Can you think of any reason not to use the new flat happy model elrs in a 5 inch race build?
Nick Burns sent me here! New subscriber! Great comparison!!!
What was the maximum range? 600 meters is written in the description and will I be able to fly further?
Great review/testing.. After a few early quality issues with the Happy Model and later the Flywoo receivers I switched to Matek. They are harder to fit in a whoop do to their bigger size though. But they've been flawless and the build quality is top notch. As I understand, they have an onboard telemetry amplifier as well?? I wonder if you've tried them.
That flat antenna is appealing for a small whoop.
I haven’t tried any of the Matek receivers. I’ll look into them though, sounds like it’d be an interesting comparison.
@@ATXAirborne I'd be curious how they compare with signal myself, I've put 8 of them in and not a dud in the lot. I figure for around $5 more I'll stick with what works for me.
Thanks for doing these tests!
I like the flat one. Looks easy to put inside my quads 😊
the Betafpv 1.1v of the flat one is giben about 1km.
I am surprised that the AIO receiver performs so well. Sometimes even better than the external receiver.
i thought it would be significantly worse... but this might be perfect for indoor whoops & lightweight picks.
Really need to know the type/orientation of those antennas. If they're linear, what's their orientation? If CP, which direction?
Very nice test - thank you!
Hello I've a Radiomaster TX16s (version 1) and the betafpv expresslrs elrs 2.4ghz 1W Micro Module. I can't change the 10W value, in the module joistick or in the LUA software, Do you have an ideia what maybe is the cause?
I dont understand why the vTX has anything to do with the ELRS range of the RX? were you using a 2 in 1 RX which also has video and RX?
I only mentioned the VTX because I can’t fly outside of my video range, so it’s a practical limitation on the distances I can test these receivers.
What options was set during flashing? have you used "regulatory domain" enabled?
have an Emax hawk pro and I want to know what is the best Express ELRS receiver to put into the drone an have the best distance and clarity for that type of drone? can you give me a response please!
I need to know I’m learning the express ELRS, I have a Emax hawk pro And I want to know what ELRS board would you recommend that I put in it? and should I go with this tower antenna one or should I go with the auxiliary antenna to give me more range and better connection? can you tell me how I should approach this because I want to be able to fly it is far as I can as long as the video feed will hold up and because I can bump that up to around 800 max, And That would help when flying further distance. let me know bro
They should have called it the BetaFPV ELRS (opt: Nano) Flat or Tower. Would have been more understandable
When did you get the flat top BetaFPV receiver? Is it the new revision or the original batch which had problems with range and got recalled (BetaFPV is sending replacements for it).
This is one of the new ones (v1.1, just released today). BetaFPV sent it to me for review.
Nice comparison! How is the jumper t-pro working for you so far? Those are the five33 stick ends?
I like the T-Pro a lot. I did a review of it a while back and have been using it as my primary radio since then. The stick ends are from Thumb Grippies, and I chose them because they’re the shortest stick ends I can find. The main issue with the T-Pro is that the gimbals stick up unusually high.
@@ATXAirborne thank you! I switched to pinching and it's much more comfortable to fly with my t-pro. But I might buy less spiky stick ends
Hi, my BetaFPV Flat Antenna ELRS Receiver failsafed at 30meters. What were your Firmware versions on the Flat Antenna and T-Pro ELRS? Thanks!
ELRS 2.4 on both. Try using 2.4, they did make some improvements. Is your unit from the first batch or did you get it more recently (within the past month or so)
@@ATXAirborne thanks, I got the BetaFPV ELRS Rx V1.1
The Zorro's internal ELRS was still on V2.0
@@ATXAirborne most quad's Built-in ELRS running Betaflight 4.3RC3
@@ATXAirborne There's a reason calling themselves "BETAfpv" was very apt, as if you buy, you will be doing their testing and quality checking for them!
Great video!!!
I have a 2 whoops with separate soldered on Fly Sky recvrs. Can they be easily changed out with an ELRS recvr?
You will most likely be able to do it, but you will probably need to solder an additional wire between the ELRS receiver and the flight controller because I believe FlySky only uses 3 wires. The best bet is to look up a wiring diagram for the flight controller on your whoop and make sure there is a TX and RX pad available that you can use. I have a video that goes through how this works for ELRS, and it explains this in detail: ua-cam.com/video/XNkidFPuWdw/v-deo.html I hope it helps!
I just knew you couldn't resist hyping the BeteFPV RX despite it's relative poor performance. Informative video though, thanks
I'm not really sure what you mean. I tried to present the data clearly so everyone could decide what they think. I clearly said at every point that the BetaFPV receiver didn't perform as well. But I do think it still has a place with it being as small as it is. I hope you don't feel that any of that was misleading, and I certainly did not intend to misrepresent it.
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@@ATXAirborne Hey, sorry if you thought I was having a dig. Your video was concise, fair and informative as always and I appreciate the work you put in. It was just a smiley glib comment because you feature a lot of BetaFPV and I am personally bias against them for very frustrating and expensive experience. Please keep up the good work as I enjoy your content.
Thanks. No worries. I’ve had good experiences with BetaFPV stuff so far, although I know they aren’t without their problems.
It’s really mostly a coincidence that I’ve had more of their stuff on the channel lately compared with other brands. New product releases have been a little slow lately due to Covid lockdowns, so some of the other stuff I cover hasn’t really had new releases lately. I think things are looking better now though.
you noted you had tons of ideas...can you please advise how much an idea weighs so I can determine how many ideas that is? thanks
topic for childrens. there's no best.
I have reviewed and tested both of these. I prefer the Fat Ant. i reached oiver 1.3km's with it!!! Crazy range. it was attached to a BetaFPV 95x V2. Check out my vi if you want to see more (After you finished watching ATX of course!) Cheers mate. Great review as always! SP 😀