In case it wasn’t clear, this is not my personal list. It’s a joint effort, and I personally haven’t read about half of the characters included here. In other words, it's a subjective, orientative, innacurate... and shared list (and truth first and foremost, some characters have been victims of glazing here). Likewise, if anyone has constructive criticism to offer, we encourage you to share it. Many characters have not been judged properly due to a lack of opinions, and, as you know, this is not meant to be an objective list; it serves more as a guideline. PS: PLEASE READ THE DISCLAIMER
whats the point of making a guideline thats just inaccurate? shit like manaka at 95 and merc in not even top 70 while naoya and taichi are in the top 30? those are just the ones i know, naoya and especially taichi being above all the classic literature guys (havent read the classic literature ones but still) sounds pretty insane to me
@@ruinicibz4511 The purpose of the list is specified in the disclaimer, I would appreciate if you read it. And if you have any constructive criticism with the top we encourage you to share it. In addition, precisely, the person who has put Naoya and Taichi so high up has read 10 times more than me (or even more), including classical literature. So in my opinion, I think his criteria is valid enough. Finally, I never said that it is a guideline, but that it serves as one. The list is obviously inaccurate because of everything mentioned in the disclaimer, so I would really appreciate if you could read it.
@@noncarpediem didnt read the disclaimer before, still think its kinda unnecessary since its just gonna be misleading to a lot of people, maybe stop ranking them and just list them instead
@@ruinicibz4511 I don't think it is misleading as long as people read the disclaimer, which is why it is there, to inform about the inaccuracy of this list. And if someone has not read the disclaimer and is therefore “misled”, I don't think it is our responsibility. Because in the first place, we have never sold it as the opposite. And if someone decides to believe the list or not, that's their own personal affair. And as you say, we considered making a list instead of a top. But finally we decided that a top would go better to be able to differentiate the characters And as we know the problems involved in making a top, we decided to write a disclaimer to explain and detail the inexactitude of the system used. But, if you have any idea of a rating system that allows us to differentiate the characters without using a top, I encourage you again to share it.
@@ruinicibz4511 I rate Taichi and Naoya considerably higher than the other visual novel characters (perhaps Kageaki would be a little closer), but it's worth remembering that it's not because the characters have a gap in the list that that gap also exists in an individual comparison. for me even Mamiya is comparable to the characters from classic literature, there's a media overvaluation of the characters from classic literature that makes the takes against anime/manga/LN/VN characters unfair, but that doesn't make sense when both media explore similar philosophical and cultural themes (of course it depends on the execution, but both also do it perfectly)
The GENDER disparity in this list, is so comically BIG, that I find it hilarious! That being said, this is a good list! might haul a few books because of this.
Absolutely true. It is quite unfair that the vast majority of classic novels have a male character as the main character.... But there's nothing to be done, it was the mentality of the time
When i found the debate edit community of writing, i had a little fermi paradox on me- if such beautiful art is discussed in such a niche group, what about the rest of the world? Glad i found this video
This is such a nice video. The look of the video and the music really give it a somber atmosphere with a lot of gravitas. I’ve heard of a lot of these works before, but this makes me want to actually check them out
This list is simply amazing. There are so many characters unknown to me that need to be mastered... But turning to the question: where is the best place to start getting acquainted with literature? I think that classical children's literature would be a better starting point, because of the focus on certain topics, the absence of many and complex interpretations, and finally the simplicity of the entire genre (I'm only talking about the vast majority of children's literature). It is important for me to know the opinion of knowledgeable people, because I am far from knowledgeable in this area of media.
@@jessepinkman111 I believe that literature is something very personal and the best thing you can do is to read what really interests you. Obviously, books of a very high difficulty, such as James Joyce's Ulysses, are not recommended to begin with. However, it's okay if as a starting point you take a novel of intermediate difficulty, because the important thing is that you have the desire to read it, understand it and enjoy it. Likewise, as a guideline I leave you a list of recommendations of "classic" books that can be a good starting point to get into this hobby; - The Stranger, Camus - Siddhartha, Hesse - The Catcher in the Rye, Salinger - Tokyo Blues, Murakami - 1984, Orwell - Frankenstein, Shelley But this is only in case you want to get started in the classics, because if you intend to get into literature in general you have other alternatives. For example in my case I started as a child with fantasy and eventually I became interested in the universal classics. So in conclusion, read what interests you the most without thinking too much about it :)
@@noncarpediem Oh, thanks for the advice. Really good reasoning, because I'm too worried about failing at something I don't fully understand. You showed me that even with a little experience, you can freely interpret the events described, find your own meaning in all this and freely go into analysis. There is only one question left about the top in the video... Why is Grigory Pechorin so high? Is he really that good? In my opinion, Oblomov would be much better in all respects of this meaning. Oblomov is wildly underrated in Russian literature, having a false opinion about the "boring" of this novel
capeditz fake reads almost all his writing stuff and mostly gets them from a few select people, a LOT of it came from dr1bbble who deleted his channel a while bakc
Great list, you tried the greatest you could and that’s all that matters. If this was Top 200 good female characters that you could add are ALP from Finnegan’s wake and Josephine Logan from Sanity in Art.
@@myjobistoshootfire7703 Thank you for the appreciation :) It’s a shame the lack of female characters, but I will try to discover new ones for the community
I just wanna say, you're definitely cultured in the best sense by having read so many works and understood such complex characters fully. I know it'll sound a bit strange, but have you ever thought of writing a book yourself?
@@Salalazai Thank you so much for your comment :) But I have to admit that I haven’t read most of the novels that appear in the video and that’s because this is a shared project. Regarding the novel, yes, I have thought about it but not as something serious tbh
This is the peak of the human brain. Absolutely insane, this list must be so hard to do yet you guys literally perfected it. All of you guys got my highest respect. But i think if it had Holden Caulfield from catcher in the rye the list would be perfect for me.
@@noncarpediem Didn't include reinhard from dies irae ? Also mercurius should be lot higher like in top 10 or top 15. Also missed ren fuji + tenma yato from shinza. He is the character which is based on zarathushtra.
@@Master00167 Does that mean you have Mercurius over characters like Bazarov, Hamlet, Myshkin or Don Quixote? If so I'd like to know your cat distribution, because otherwise I don't understand why you say Mercurius should be in the top 15-10 Regarding Shinza, none of us have read it
@@noncarpediem don't know about don But i can say Mercurius best shows the complexiety of contradiction which I have read. He has various monolgues and parallels about him ranting about his existence in the cosmos and also why he should be there at the same time. His actions lead to plot of dies irae. Also if you havn't read shinza, you can search for prologue of dies irae. Not much to his character but the prologue sets the tone nicely.
@@Master00167 If you don’t know about the characters in top 30-10 why do say that Mercurios should be in top 15? I don’t doubt Mercurius’ writing, but the person who has placed Mercurius has read almost all the characters that are in the Top 50, and in his opinion Mercurius is well placed. Even though, maybe you’re right, and that’s why I would like you to provide a matchup of Mercurius versus a character from the top 30-10 (with cat distribution)
I think some comic book characters also deserve to be on this list(like Batman, Spiderman, Dream, Swamp thing and Constantine). Ik they are very inconsistent but at their peaks, they are easily in the top 100.
@@noncarpediem I’ve considered all of them 😡. Dream and Constantine were taken out of the list in the earlier stages of development. Spider-man was scratched rather quickly due to inconsistencies in character among comics. We didn’t have enough info on Swamp thing to accurately place him on the list. Batman isn’t worthy of this list. 🥰🥰😡🥰
I don't agree with most of the list but its amazing how much fiction you have consumed great job and looking forward for top 1000 keep up the great work
I don't know about Darth Vader and Judge Holden, but Walter does not enter the top imo, he is lower than Reinhard or Monster (Frankenstein). Btw I recommmend you read the disclaimer to understand this list...
I would put Noncarpediem at number 1 and here is my explaination: Introduction - His introduction puts many layers and themes, depths and complexity in his first short and it foreshadows his first video which is both their top fictional character and would most likely changed. Conclusion - Just because a character has not ended does not mean he is bad look at fang yuan. Themes - Noncarpediem themes are insanely complex and puts many meanings and all of his videos fit into his themes and here are the examples: Debate, Comparison, Thrilling, Entertainment, Adventure, Education and many more and he has 100+ themes like the dude who sold his soul to the devil idk guy. Depths - His depths are amazing and very complex and it shows all the context with making it long and the depths just works yk yk. Complexity - Noncarpediem cannot be understand because of his 1000000+ layers and if i were to explain it my mind would be gone like dr1bble's channel. Pararells - Noncarpediem's pararells shapes his youtube platform channel and his friends around him. Speeches(Dialogues and Monologues) - His dialogues are like Harry Dubois and his monologues are like John Galt. Characs - Love, Mercy, Calm, Chill, Sigma, and Selling Hotdogs. Conflicts and overall conflicts - His debate againts the ignautius victims and himself holding back to turn everyone into a ignautius victims is insane. Shoutout to Wonderlline vs Noncarpediem peak fiction fight. Symbolism - He symbolizes what a writing debater is and that is being respectful on everyone and the people's takes. Ideology/ Beliefs / Philosophy - Read FAS, FAUST, Usogui.
@@average_donald_obama_joe_liker Hahahahahahahaha bro this is genuinely the best comment I've ever received, seriously. Thank you so much for taking the time to analyze me and for mentioning the best character in fiction: Ignatius. Thanks ❤️🔥
Kohler over reinhard by what diff? Or rather, what would you say is the average differential that you have placed in between said characters placing. I do feel as if Edmond should be higher up, but as you said in the pinned comment, that may be another form of glazing on my part. Just as you seem to be in tune with the more and lesser known fictional works regarded by yourself as well written, I would like to ask you for a book recommendation (if not too much a trouble), as I should finish my current soon, and the last book I read, the decision to do so was mostly owned to your own descriptions and edits, and I felt that the book truly lived up to your praise and enjoyed it thoroughly.
@@halswife Thank you for the clarification, I couldn't come to a take myself or any other conclusion due to inadequate knowledge, so I thank you for sharing.
@@BertieBourne looking at our conversation in retrospect, no-low diff for those characters might have been a slight exaggeration, but yes, the gap is considerably large between the bottom and top tier characters on the list. if you have any other questions either ask Carpe, me or anyone else here in the community, we're always eager to help.
Sorry for replaying late. I haven’t read Kohler but I have read Knecht (top 3) and Monster (top 98), and imo Knecht > Monster very low diff. But there’re a lot of interchangeable characters in the list, specially from top 30 to top 10. For instance Haller is in top 8 and Bazarov in top 29, but some people have Bazarov >= Haller, so it’s really close in higher tiers. I guess the list would be more accurate if you divide it into 3 packs of 33 and without any specific order
Muchas gracias :) Si al final hacemos una segunda parte y quieres participar házmelo saber. Por cierto, creo que Pessoa fue introducido en la comunidad gracias a ti, así que muchas gracias. No solo por aportar un nuevo personaje sino que también porque ahora mismo estoy leyendo El Libro del Desasosiego y me está encantando
@@noncarpediemmuchas gracias, me alegro de que Bernardo soares haya sido de tu gusto (también me gusta mucho, pero mi heteronimo favorito es el baron de teive), el libro del desasosiego es en definitiva de lo mejor de Pessoa 🐐.
@@noncarpediem Baron de teive pertenece a "La educación del estoico", otros trabajos recomendables además del libro del desasosiego serían "La hora del diablo" (que también es una obra más pequeña) y "El primer Fausto" (este ya no es de un heteronimo como tal, sino del mismo Fernando Pessoa).
@@RWR785 In the updated list there are only four VN characters: Naoya Kusanagi, Kurosu Taichi, Kageaki Minato, and Mamiya Takuji. They all slaughter Spider-Man horrendously 🥰
@@n3ew777 those characters are good but Spider-man is emotion. Every reason to become a villain but still chose to be a hero❤. That said Naoya is really funny so I wouldn’t blame you for liking them more than Spider-man
@@RWR785 I guess so. Thing is, I don’t hate Spider-Man, I do like him a lot, but with the amount of things I’ve seen until now he just gets vastly overshadowed. And Spider-Man loses emotion to Jacopo, Michel, Giselle, Morgana, or the White Haired Girl (basically the entire THIFM cast 😅).
Incredible list, I love that you had all the dedication to do this even if you have not read some of the characters here. In my opinion, you are the best editor in the category of writing. Some characters that I would have added are: Finn the Human (Adventure Time) Mori Buntarou (The Climber) Kiruma Souichi (Usogui) Joe Yabuki (Ashita no Joe) Literally me Morpheus (Sandman) Juan Pablo Castel (El Tunel) I did not notice well if he left, if so excuse me for not seeing him
@@raynaciogamerrandomvideos4610 Thank you so much for the appreciation. Regarding the characters, we decided to not include some of them, for example we have Reinhard >=< Joe, and we finally decided to put Reinhard in top 100. Even though, we will take into account the characters you mentioned for the next part :) And also, W for Castel. You are the first person I know who has read The Tunnel
@@noncarpediemThank you very much for taking my comment into account, by the way another character I would like to add is Pi Patel from Life of Pi, I read the novel recently and it’s quite incredible.
@@raynaciogamerrandomvideos4610 i probably would add - sun wukong - hayy ibn yaqzan - billy pilgrim - lazarillo - max otto von stierlitz - santiago - grand karcist ion - kiyoaki matsugae
@@Altodementia Thank you for the appreciation :) We are aware that some placements are not accurate. Btw, maybe you have already done it, but I recommend you to read the disclaimer to understand it better (it’s at the begging of the video)
@@firefly9643 Probably we forgot him, or maybe it’s just that we haven’t analyzed him. For instance I read Sherlock Holmes when I was around 10 and I don’t remember almost anything tbh, could be the same case for the other of the members
Tengo ganas de leer novelas como El Túnel y Faust que un conocido me los recomendó junto una novela de mechas que tenía más de 6 mil capítulos, que me recomiendas leer para que no se me haga tan pesado? Por cierto excelente video la verdad me gustó mucho la edición, yo pondría a Klein, Morí, Kiruma Souchi, pero viendo a Reinhard en el 100 solo Klein entraría el top, harías uno de 100 mejores piezas de ficción?
@@blurryface5906 Yo recomiendo no leer ni Fausto ni El Túnel porque ambas son obras muy pesadas. Si no sueles leer novelas lo que te recomiendo es que empieces por lecturas más adecuadas como por ejemplo alguna novela de Murakami. La que mencionas de Mechas, no se me ocurre a cuál te puedes estar refiriendo, pero me viene a la cabeza Warhammer. Y sobre el top 100 de obras no lo sabemos, pero lo más probable es que no.
@ se llama The Mech Touch y un amigo mío me dijo que tardo años en leer hasta el cap 3K pero que son más de 6K dice, está bien veré tu recomendación aun así ando muy joven en esto de la literatura y recién compré algunos libros
@@noncarpediem Yeah, regardless of whatever people might think about the ordering or whatever, the fact that you guys were able to find this many characters, many of which have never been mentioned in the community whatsoever, is incredible
Well I can’t really give my opinion on the ranking since it’s based on personal opinion but you cover a wide variety of media and genres so I’ll say it’s a good ranking
@@NoName-wy7to For recommendations. For me the most important thing is to meet people who have read a lot (more than you if possible) and who have the same literary taste as you. For example, booktubers
@@NoName-wy7to Not really. But you can join for example the server of CapEditz, and there’s a writing debates section where you can ask for recommendations. You can also search for some booktubers, or your idea of joining a book club in Discord is also good. If you search in internet I’m sure you will find one
A weird choice indeed. He's not even the best written character in New Vegas, let alone the entire fallout series. Him being the second best written videogame character on this list is probably my biggest disagreement with this video. But it's all subjective, anyway...
@@youarealwayscorrect Oh could you help us then? Tell us some of the better character? (Sorry if this came off as rude in any way, I genuinely want to know)
Wait hold on. Michael Corleone is here at 86, I've read the Godfather in its entirety recently enough so I can remember the key parts about it but I wanna share my thoughts about him. He's definitely a good character, but I feel like he's not THAT great. Main idea is the one who wants to be a mafia boss the least, is the best suited for the position. And that's him. He also has a relationship with Kay and has to reveal to her what kind of man he is, because being a mafia leader means being a criminal, a murderer even. Just wanted to write this out, if there's anything major to Michael that I forgot, I'd like someone to remind me. Because after all, the idea of this video is the top 100 best characters in ALL OF FICTION. It's definitely something in which a lot of thought should be put (not saying there wasn't much thought behind the ranking, I thank everyone who made the video, but it is hard to not make some oversights in a few instances)
@@Salalazai Yeah that’s also what I have been told. However, this is Michael from de novels, and I’ve heard that there he is better written. But personally I don’t know it because I haven’t read the novels
@noncarpediem oh ok lol, the novel you're talking about is probably what I have read. TBH anything novel/light novel gets glazed TF out both in powerscaling and writing 😭
@noncarpediem Ahh yeah, I missed him at 29. Also, Jacopo > Beatrice any day for me. A lot of the choice made no sense and seemed to just be random. Like, why put Crois at 97? He's far from the best Trails character.
@noncarpediem At that point I'd say you should title the list 100 of the best characters ever written instead of making it a ranking. No offence but this is quite meaningless.
@ I know the list is meaningless, but it's not made not to be, we just wanted to make a top, even if it wasn't serious. If someone takes it seriously is their problem since everything is explained in the disclaimer, but even so I think the list is very good considering the circumstances in which we have done it. I myself disagree with quite a few positions, but I think that if we divide the list in 3 groups of 33 it is a convincing result. Anyway, I don't know why you are surprised that the list is not "meaningful" when not even the writing comparisons are serious... It's something we enjoy and that's all. But yes, I agree with everything you say.
Thank you all for this amazing list, I'll probably check out some of the characters in there soon. It's great when people in this community actually do something to make others discover new media instead of comparing characters to prove one is better than the other
t's a nice list, but there seem to be some missing characters. Lich King (wow), Nerose (shinza banshou), The Master or Joshua (Fallout) could be on the list.
@@szewc-0 Thank you :) I have been consuming media since I was 8 years old. But I have not read even the 50% of the characters which appear in the list. I recommend you to read the disclaimer to understand it
A lot of my favourite characters, who I cuddle in my eyes as they are quite in the sunrise, didn't make the list. Still, a good idea. Next time, add me too if there's some collaboration going on. If you make the next list. Do add Gabriel Oak and Jay Gatsby. I will give you my analysis if you ask me. I think Gabriel Oak is one of the most authentic and yet romanticised versions of a critical romantic character of 18th Century England. Hardy did a wonderful job to flourish his character and cement the emotional resonance (emotions) with her desire, Batsheva, in a very profound, approachable, and realistic manner with respect to Dorset, England, in the 18th century. If you have read Fata Morgana, Gabriel does his job in a more realistic, predominantly with a better psychological and less dramatic manner. And as for Jay, I just see him quite high, and I do know you are quite indifferent to it. But just let me know if you want those analyses of mine. I haven't made it yet, but I am free of work for some days. W edit and collaboration.
@@MR_NOBODY61 Of course! If you want to add a character you can discuss it with @n3ew777, who is the owner of the project. From what you say, Gabriel Oak sounds like an excellent character. On the other hand, I'm interested to know what it is about Gatsby that fascinates you so much. Because as you well know, I was a bit indifferent to the reading, and I would like to be able to take into account another point of view. Thank you very much for your appreciation and support :)
@@noncarpediem Nice. So where can I find that guy? Does he have a dc account? And yes, Gabriel Oak is definitely a fantastic character, as is Batsheva Everdene, the very female protagonist of Far From The Madding Crowd. I would be glad to showcase the reasoning behind me having Gatsby in a high position. It might help you too to reconcile the feelings towards him. Is it okay if I share a bit of my analysis tomorrow evening (timezone haha)? I will keep it very simple and confined without stretching anything; I will try to deliver it without being biased. Basically, I will answer why his writing's impact and the most dominant aspect of his anti-hero and tragic downfall tendency with the grand similarities with characters like Samsa, Jacopo, Hamlet, and even somehow Rodion. So be ready for it tomorrow. And don't forget to criticise if something about him feels inconsistent or my aiding towards him. That would help us to analyse and give credits to him properly. I am glad you are again showing that you're open-minded. Also, I have started reading Steppenwolf; I just got the book today. I have very high expectations from him and Hesse (only you hyped me up, haha). Have you read Demian, and if so, how do you compare him to other characters of Hesse? I am sorry if I am chattering too much. I will share this video in my community post. Great job! Love literature always.
@@MR_NOBODY61 As you can understand, I prefer not to give you his Discord without his consent. So if you want to ask him yourself, you can find a comment from him as a reply to my comment where I explain that it is a 500 subs special and everything else. About the "analysis" of Gatsby, if you don't mind I would like you to pass it to me by dscord because it is more convenient for me. And finally, I am very happy to know that you have started Steppenwolf thanks to me. I honestly usually recommend reading Demian and Siddhartha first, but well, I don't think it's a very serious problem. And as for Demian, since it was among my first classics I'm not able to remember it as much as I'd like to, so I can only intuitively tell you that I scale Emil Sinclair a bit above Paul and Siddhartha. I hope you enjoy it very much :)
@@thename-of-faxDefinitely does. Still, if you want to read any of the top 3 characters, I recommend Joseph Knecht, then Ulrich, then Kohler, simply because Kohler is unbelievably incoherent and complex.
@@n3ew777 It seems you have pretty high knowledge on this list and fictional characters. I wanted to know who has best writing among them in your opinion ?
@@thename-of-fax I’m the one who made it, that’s why 😁. Among these characters, the best is definitely Kohler, second is probably Ulrich, and third is Knecht. The rest of the top 10 and maybe top 15 are pretty much CGEW.
Interesting list to be honest There are loads of placements I disagree with such as Knecht being near the t10 or Ahab being even in the top 50, but the variety is admirable
Thank you very much for your comment. We are aware of the inaccuracy of the list and therefore we appreciate that there are still people who appreciate the list more for the content than for the order. If you have any improvements you think you can make to the list, we will be happy to receive them and we will take them into account if we ever make a part 2
Yes! Surprisingly, Denji is one of if not my favourite character. He is by no means the best but he carries such a unique personality that is simultaneously relatable and a complete subversion and revolutionary idea when comparing it to the genre and fiction as a whole. He's not the best but in my heart he is one of my all time favourites.
@@RWR785 i read spider man comics since i was a kid, but it's cleary you don't consumed any charachters beside spider- man huh... Batman and Morpheus is way way way better than him
very diverse and stacked list W, i'd recommend Zaregoto, Kiichi!! ( +VS) , Usogui , Rezero LN, and The World Is Mine if you haven't , their mc's are better than a lot of these characters imo. Surprised araragi is so low, nishio ishin is a very talented novelist and araragi ( especially novels ) is amazing. Even so I think the zaregoto's mc ( another Nishio's work ) will be pretty high since araragi already made top 90. Also you should give bleach a try just for Aizen, he's an extremely well written and interesting character and Kubo actually took inspiration from a lot of works on this list such as thus spoke zarathustra
@@arii_how I said a lot meaning they would make the list at least, obvsly since yall can value different things they can also not be there . I think classical literature is cool and everything but the modern one , especially Japanese literature , is a style I value more since it’s more relatable . Tho I haven’t read everything from this list
@@TERRORIST_WIN007 yeah, the philosophy in GBG so far is incredible, and I’ve only read around 60 pages or so. I love the idea of the synthesis of all intellectual pursuits into a sort of divine and meaningful singularity (that is portrayed to direct the Individual and Society to God), as well as the reflections on the practical and holistic value of knowledge in the ‘real world’ and its implications in a broader philosophical scope.
@@noncarpediem introduction: Spider-man Conclusion: Hamlet Depth: Hamlet Emotions: Spider-man Fights: Spider-man Humour: Spider-man Backstory: Spider-man Parallels: Hamlet Design: Spider-man Themes: Spider-man Impact: Hamlet Role model: Spider-man Dynamics: Spider-man Peaks: Spider-man Valleys: Spider-man Overall: Spider-man mid-diff To clarify I’m talking about Spider-man 616 (the amazing Spider-man). I’m also biased as Spider-man taught me that every rude person will turn good once they experience the soul cleansing feeling of helping others. Best way to defeat your enemies is by making them your friends
Great video, I'm really interested to cjeck out all of those now. Just a quick question, if it's not a bother, dis you consider putting Klein Moretti on the list, or dis you not read, or simply the others were higher ? Excellent video anyway, keep it up 🎉 Btw, a bit sad to not see my boy Natsuki Subaru, but that's hiw it is, against these monuments of fiction...
@@noncarpediem Males sense. Fiction is way too large to know everything. Incredible video once again btw 😊 Also, is the name if the music written somewhere during the video ? (Anyway, as of rn, Subaru sadly doesn't qualify here, even if it hurts me to say it...)
@@DelusionalMf618 The name of the music is at the end of the video, the last 2-5 seconds below the “Thank you for watching”. And again, thank you really much for the appreciation :)
Peak list guys but still so many charachters that deserve to be on this list like - Kino (Kino's Journey) - All the charachters from Sandman Universe - Yagyu (Lone Wolf and Cub) - Sun Wukong (Journey to the West) - Li (Zaregoto) - Tatsuya Nakadai (The Face of Another) - Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird) -Hayy Ibn Yaqzān (Hayy Ibn Yaqzān) - Doctor Doom - Nate Fisher (Six Feet Under) -Sherlock Holmes - Tommy Tester (Ballad of Black Tom) - The Doctor (Doctor Who) - Hannibal
Ii-Chan has been considered for the next list (It’s not Li 😭). As for the rest, we haven’t yet consumed any, except Sherlock Holmes, who probably won’t make it into the new list. Hannibal was considered before before his removal.
I haven't read ReZero, so I don't know if he would be in the list... As far as I know, he is usually rated very high so I see it possible that he could be in the top 100-80, on par with the likes of Araragi. What do you think?
With all due respect, this may be one of the most misguided perspectives on fiction and the art of writing ever presented. Characters within their respective narratives serve different roles and are crafted with varying approaches. For example, just because a character is designed for psychological exploration within a story does not make them inherently better written than another character who lacks such aspect. The latter may simply not have been intended for that purpose. Furthermore, including psychological in a character does not automatically reflect superior writing ability. It is the alignment of the character's design with the narrative's needs that truly matters. Ranking characters by asserting that Writer X did a better job than Writer Y based on such a simplistic and misguided perspective is genuinely insulting. It reduces the complexity of writing to a narrow and flawed metric, disregarding the diverse intentions behind different character designs.
@@ChrisTtfw To be honest, I agree with the overall message (even if I think some things are somewhat exaggerated). I don't justify making the top 100, but I just want to make it clear that even knowing everything you say we decided to make the top. We have some reasons for it, but I don't think I owe you any explanation and, to be honest, I'm not even sure that the reasons are completely valid. However, even if they were, it wouldn't change the fact that you are right. So in my opinion there is no point in discussing it. For the moment, I stand firm with the top. But I respect, admire and to some extent share your opinion. Anyway, the truth is that I prefer that there are people who take the list as you do rather than people who take it as if it were a “divine” top where the order has even relevance. Thank you very much for the reflection and have a nice day.
@@ChrisTtfw By the way, if you don't mind, I would like to pin your message. Mainly because I think there are people who have not thought about this and in my opinion it is always good to be able to take into account another point of view.
@@noncarpediem Sure, i ic no problem. Also, im not trying to throw hate or criticize, but I've noticed these kinds of comparisons before, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
If it was up to me, I would put Fang Yuan in #1, everything else is irrelevant. Maybe bump up Harry Du Bois to T10. Anyways, congratulations on the 500 subs. A very interesting list, if I say so, quite the number of characters I have never heard of before. Definitely will be worth checking out in the future.
Fire list (many no writing chars tho, but less than in dribble's list) But that's not an objective ranking not because of reasons mentioned in the disclaimer, but because writing is 101% subjective no matter what you do 🥶 And who tf are those nggаs in t5, Marcel Proust inflation is real 😭 And who саrеs, you put Stav over Myshkin holy W 🗣🗣🗣
writing is definitely subjective to a large extent, especially when it comes to personal taste. But I’d argue there are still elements of a story or character that can be assessed more objectively. Things like how consistent a character is, how well their goals are defined, or how effectively their arc resolves within the narrative. (etc. Introduction, Conclusion, Complexity, Consistency, Backstory, Goals, Development, peaks, narrative)
@@shayow7159 I'd say how consistent char is as subjective as which char is better. How well goals are defined - no way to proof, how complex is char - no way to proof etc. I don't see anything objective in writing, no matter what anything will be based on opinion - whether it's your own or majority opinion. There is no way to objectively proof, f.e. how Marcel Proust is better character than Gojo Satoru, any statement will be based on beliefs and so on. The line between good and bad is blurrеd аsf (and there are many examples of char being thought as well written or bad written just because of majority opinion). There is also thing like "fоrсеd hаte" which is just hаting on char and refusing to even analyze it (Tanjiro, Deku, Denji, Guts but rarely). All in all, humans are too biаsеd to judge 😭 Maybe it's just me, since 99% of chаrs i love get absolutely hаtеd by majority, but i don't see a way to actually proof superiority of one chаr over another.
As a typical reader of fiction, I sometimes spend time on TikTok for boktub, so i think you mostly refer to those comparisons shorts if so I totally relate to you **There is also thing like "fоrсеd hаte" which is just hаting on char and refusing to even analyze it** they confuse enjoyment with writing, those self proclaimed elitists some call themselves like this, not necessarily interracially, meaning inherently they are superior to others in opinions. And those who just comment without analysis or most likely never even touching the piece of work, shouldn’t be taken seriously if there is a know internet term as troll, they hate just to hate **the line between good and bad is blurrеd аsf, and there are many examples of char being thought as well written or bad written just because of majority opinion,** A debate, analysis its a mix between both subjectivity and objectivity, you saying “i don't see a way to actually proof superiority of one chаr over another.” so what do you think, who is better written peppa pig, hello kitty or guts, i hope we are on the same page, so i know that there’s more to it, I don’t want to get into deph or anything, I’ll just summarise it as much as possible, if Character A consistently makes choices that align with their established traits and goals, while Character B constantly contradicts themselves without reason, Character A might be objectively stronger in that category. *All in all, humans are too biаsеd to judge 😭* this is unnecessary but anyway, humans are but there are tools that are not for example AI, welp at least they are more objective than subjective,i am going to theorise that you can literally ask a task to chatGPT to do in-depth analysis, so in the end the media that comes up with this stuff is by larger extent biased than based so yeah i am going to stay to my opinion and you can agree to disagree i think however objectivity exists but in its own scaling.
@@shayow7159 1. Fоrсеd hate still affects opinions of everyone cause people are biаsеd. 2. Nobody on planet earth could proof Guts is better anyway, that's just your pov. Consistency is blurred term, while being better written is even more blurrеd, so still char A can't be proven better than char B, and guts can't be proven better than hello kitty (who tf is hello kitty anyway ⁉️😭). 3. Ai is based on human information and created by humans. 4. Percentage can be higher
Awesome list but there are characters like guts, Kenzo Tenma, Wolfgang Grimmer, Gatsby and Joshua Graham that in my opinion, deserved a spot. Other than that, incredible work!
I have read Monster, Berserk and The Great Gatsby, and I scale them lower than the characters in top 100-90. That's why they are not in the top. I recommend you to read Frankenstein (for example, Frankenstein Monster is in top 98) to realize that that even the characters in the top 100-90 are excellent
@@noncarpediemOh ok it's understandable, its cool you've read them. And you've played the house in fata morgana. You have exceptional taste. Do check out the innocent manga, I think you might like it.
Respectfully speaking gets slaughtered by Reinhard in writing, who is the 100th in this list. Take this list as dr111ble’s list on crack pretty much 🥰.
I saw this video a few hours after it got posted, only now I comment on it tho. Which was a blessing since that day I remembered dr1bbble’s top 100 characters video that I couldn’t watch since his channel had been deleted. I like this list since I’ve got introduced to some new characters that will definitely be added to my tbr list. I also got the Frankenstein novel (I got a few days before this video came out that I planned to finish for Halloween but didn’t 😭) so I was shocked to see that the monster was that well written to be on the list, since I did hear many great things about the novel but not about the writing of the monster. And the first two volumes of Lotl that I got alongside Frankenstein. But I was kind of eh about Phos being over some characters since I’ve heard some great characters mentioned that are better than Phos that weren’t on here. But I did read the disclaimer and it’s true, writing is subjective. Loved seeing Michael Corleone on here, he needs more love in the writing community. Anyways enough of this yap, W vid bro and will definitely drop a sub since you do edits as well ❤.
@@sinister434 Thank you so much bro. I’m glad to know that this video encouraged you to read more, I really hope you enjoy Frankenstein and literature on general
Sun wukong should be atleast in the top 20, he's easily the best charachter in eastern media, ya'll should read Journey to the West, and i hope you will included him in this list someday and i want to see you made sunwukong edits, i'll be wait until you guys finally finish read it and i want to hear your opinion about the book and sun wukong intself in general 🙏
@@noncarpediem Understandable. Re:Zero is a little difficult to get into what with it's huge amount of content. If you do check it out tho, I hope you'll consider Subaru for the updated list you mentioned ✌️
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Congrats for nearly reaching 500 subs and for the list. Since my opinion has been more than stated, I'll keep it to myself. Regardless, great list, and I'll probably take some recommendations from it; my thanks to the whole team behind it. Huge W.
WHO THE HECK ARE MOST OF THEM! ❤🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥(just joking lol) Also I must say that it's surprising to see Jacopo and Beatrice that low, considering how highly regarded they are. Though it is your personal list, and it seems you prefer more classical works.
In case it wasn’t clear, this is not my personal list. It’s a joint effort, and I personally haven’t read about half of the characters included here. In other words, it's a subjective, orientative, innacurate... and shared list (and truth first and foremost, some characters have been victims of glazing here).
Likewise, if anyone has constructive criticism to offer, we encourage you to share it. Many characters have not been judged properly due to a lack of opinions, and, as you know, this is not meant to be an objective list; it serves more as a guideline.
PS: PLEASE READ THE DISCLAIMER
whats the point of making a guideline thats just inaccurate? shit like manaka at 95 and merc in not even top 70 while naoya and taichi are in the top 30? those are just the ones i know, naoya and especially taichi being above all the classic literature guys (havent read the classic literature ones but still) sounds pretty insane to me
@@ruinicibz4511 The purpose of the list is specified in the disclaimer, I would appreciate if you read it. And if you have any constructive criticism with the top we encourage you to share it.
In addition, precisely, the person who has put Naoya and Taichi so high up has read 10 times more than me (or even more), including classical literature. So in my opinion, I think his criteria is valid enough.
Finally, I never said that it is a guideline, but that it serves as one. The list is obviously inaccurate because of everything mentioned in the disclaimer, so I would really appreciate if you could read it.
@@noncarpediem didnt read the disclaimer before, still think its kinda unnecessary since its just gonna be misleading to a lot of people, maybe stop ranking them and just list them instead
@@ruinicibz4511 I don't think it is misleading as long as people read the disclaimer, which is why it is there, to inform about the inaccuracy of this list. And if someone has not read the disclaimer and is therefore “misled”, I don't think it is our responsibility. Because in the first place, we have never sold it as the opposite. And if someone decides to believe the list or not, that's their own personal affair.
And as you say, we considered making a list instead of a top. But finally we decided that a top would go better to be able to differentiate the characters And as we know the problems involved in making a top, we decided to write a disclaimer to explain and detail the inexactitude of the system used. But, if you have any idea of a rating system that allows us to differentiate the characters without using a top, I encourage you again to share it.
@@ruinicibz4511 I rate Taichi and Naoya considerably higher than the other visual novel characters (perhaps Kageaki would be a little closer), but it's worth remembering that it's not because the characters have a gap in the list that that gap also exists in an individual comparison.
for me even Mamiya is comparable to the characters from classic literature, there's a media overvaluation of the characters from classic literature that makes the takes against anime/manga/LN/VN characters unfair, but that doesn't make sense when both media explore similar philosophical and cultural themes (of course it depends on the execution, but both also do it perfectly)
Please never delete this masterpiece video, i beg you 🙏
We will preserve it 😈
The GENDER disparity in this list, is so comically BIG, that I find it hilarious!
That being said, this is a good list! might haul a few books because of this.
Absolutely true. It is quite unfair that the vast majority of classic novels have a male character as the main character.... But there's nothing to be done, it was the mentality of the time
@@noncarpediem Agreed 100%
When i found the debate edit community of writing, i had a little fermi paradox on me- if such beautiful art is discussed in such a niche group, what about the rest of the world? Glad i found this video
Idk but fiction and art is mid stuff of the past, go study
@@galitdie6901what 💀🙏
@@galitdie6901 studying is even midder tbh
@@nusaibabdullah6090better than fiction cause fiction is poopy
@@galitdie6901You won’t be happy that way. You’ll learn the truth, but you won’t learn happiness, nor acceptance.
I LOVE that you put Fang Yuan, Horus, Emperor and Konrad so high. BUT...i would swap Fang with Horus at least...HE IS WAY BETTER
This is such a nice video. The look of the video and the music really give it a somber atmosphere with a lot of gravitas. I’ve heard of a lot of these works before, but this makes me want to actually check them out
@@THEDeathWizard87 Thank you so much :) You are the first person who has given importance to the music and style of the video, so we appreciate that
Massive W fr, Manaka is incredibly underrated.
@@ScrollerGNL Ty bro
I got her on 🥰
W list
Really glad to see lots of new characters who i didnt know of. Will check em out soon
This list is simply amazing. There are so many characters unknown to me that need to be mastered... But turning to the question: where is the best place to start getting acquainted with literature? I think that classical children's literature would be a better starting point, because of the focus on certain topics, the absence of many and complex interpretations, and finally the simplicity of the entire genre (I'm only talking about the vast majority of children's literature). It is important for me to know the opinion of knowledgeable people, because I am far from knowledgeable in this area of media.
@@jessepinkman111 I believe that literature is something very personal and the best thing you can do is to read what really interests you. Obviously, books of a very high difficulty, such as James Joyce's Ulysses, are not recommended to begin with. However, it's okay if as a starting point you take a novel of intermediate difficulty, because the important thing is that you have the desire to read it, understand it and enjoy it.
Likewise, as a guideline I leave you a list of recommendations of "classic" books that can be a good starting point to get into this hobby;
- The Stranger, Camus
- Siddhartha, Hesse
- The Catcher in the Rye, Salinger
- Tokyo Blues, Murakami
- 1984, Orwell
- Frankenstein, Shelley
But this is only in case you want to get started in the classics, because if you intend to get into literature in general you have other alternatives. For example in my case I started as a child with fantasy and eventually I became interested in the universal classics. So in conclusion, read what interests you the most without thinking too much about it :)
@@noncarpediem Oh, thanks for the advice. Really good reasoning, because I'm too worried about failing at something I don't fully understand. You showed me that even with a little experience, you can freely interpret the events described, find your own meaning in all this and freely go into analysis. There is only one question left about the top in the video... Why is Grigory Pechorin so high? Is he really that good? In my opinion, Oblomov would be much better in all respects of this meaning. Oblomov is wildly underrated in Russian literature, having a false opinion about the "boring" of this novel
W list bro 🔥 fiction is too great ❤
Thank you very much bro
Too much information of random fictional people.
cappy kun is here
Oh, it's you
Lmao expected to see you here XD
Massive respect brother
Appreciate this list. Keep doing your works
Thank you so much
I think this is were capeditz gets all his knowledge from....
capeditz fake reads almost all his writing stuff and mostly gets them from a few select people, a LOT of it came from dr1bbble who deleted his channel a while bakc
We are the root 🥰
Insane Work and for Future Top 1000 Best Fictional Characters??;)
Great list, you tried the greatest you could and that’s all that matters. If this was Top 200 good female characters that you could add are ALP from Finnegan’s wake and Josephine Logan from Sanity in Art.
@@myjobistoshootfire7703 Thank you for the appreciation :)
It’s a shame the lack of female characters, but I will try to discover new ones for the community
I just wanna say, you're definitely cultured in the best sense by having read so many works and understood such complex characters fully.
I know it'll sound a bit strange, but have you ever thought of writing a book yourself?
@@Salalazai Thank you so much for your comment :)
But I have to admit that I haven’t read most of the novels that appear in the video and that’s because this is a shared project.
Regarding the novel, yes, I have thought about it but not as something serious tbh
@Salalazai hey my GOAT🐐
@@Eren_Goated Eren 🐐 ed
Subarashiki Hibi changed my life. Mamiya Tomosane is the greatest character ever written
Faust victim in philosophy
I knew list going to be huge W when it's started with Reinhard
nah extremely low
I mean he's ofc not below Araragi
@@YangWenlii yeh he is not below anime Ragi but not sure about LN , I have him on Same as Elliot lvl
wow didn't really know novels were as great as you say, I expected it to be the same, good but that's all, I thought
This is the peak of the human brain. Absolutely insane, this list must be so hard to do yet you guys literally perfected it. All of you guys got my highest respect. But i think if it had Holden Caulfield from catcher in the rye the list would be perfect for me.
Thank you bro :)
We considered to put Holden in the list, but finally we decided that Reinhard > Holden. It’s close tho in our opinion
@@noncarpediem Didn't include reinhard from dies irae ?
Also mercurius should be lot higher like in top 10 or top 15.
Also missed ren fuji + tenma yato from shinza. He is the character which is based on zarathushtra.
@@Master00167 Does that mean you have Mercurius over characters like Bazarov, Hamlet, Myshkin or Don Quixote? If so I'd like to know your cat distribution, because otherwise I don't understand why you say Mercurius should be in the top 15-10
Regarding Shinza, none of us have read it
@@noncarpediem don't know about don
But i can say Mercurius best shows the complexiety of contradiction which I have read. He has various monolgues and parallels about him ranting about his existence in the cosmos and also why he should be there at the same time. His actions lead to plot of dies irae.
Also if you havn't read shinza, you can search for prologue of dies irae. Not much to his character but the prologue sets the tone nicely.
@@Master00167 If you don’t know about the characters in top 30-10 why do say that Mercurios should be in top 15? I don’t doubt Mercurius’ writing, but the person who has placed Mercurius has read almost all the characters that are in the Top 50, and in his opinion Mercurius is well placed. Even though, maybe you’re right, and that’s why I would like you to provide a matchup of Mercurius versus a character from the top 30-10 (with cat distribution)
W list, loved seeing Edmond Dantes on here
Also you should read Shanameh, it's a persian literature with a peak protagonist and antagonist like Rostam and Zahhak
Keep going bro, Even if some disagree, this level of knowledge is great, thank you for this video
@@Ambasing8298 Thank you for the appreciation :)
I would have put Joshua Graham on that list ngl, but W list
i am absolutely heartbroken and devestated guts from berserk didnt make the list
@@2001HondaCivics Yeah, I really like Gust but in my opinion he doesn’t make the top 100 😔
He is good but very mid when compared to most of the characters there are many many better written character than guts
He's not that great of a character m8
I think some comic book characters also deserve to be on this list(like Batman, Spiderman, Dream, Swamp thing and Constantine). Ik they are very inconsistent but at their peaks, they are easily in the top 100.
@@JohnKaung-ck2wh We aware of it, we would like to include them but no one in the team has read that many comics 😔
no .-.
@@noncarpediem I’ve considered all of them 😡. Dream and Constantine were taken out of the list in the earlier stages of development. Spider-man was scratched rather quickly due to inconsistencies in character among comics. We didn’t have enough info on Swamp thing to accurately place him on the list. Batman isn’t worthy of this list. 🥰🥰😡🥰
@@n3ew777 Bro cooked in the shadows
@@noncarpediem 🐺🐺🐺
The New List has Beatrice at 100th anyways so none of them will enter 🐺
I don't agree with most of the list but its amazing how much fiction you have consumed great job and looking forward for top 1000 keep up the great work
I can't believe Darth Vader,Judge Holden and Walter White is not this list
Walter the goat, he's my number 1
I don't know about Darth Vader and Judge Holden, but Walter does not enter the top imo, he is lower than Reinhard or Monster (Frankenstein). Btw I recommmend you read the disclaimer to understand this list...
@HargorodTheGreat I mean, I know who is Darth Vader and Judge Holden, I just haven't read them
@@noncarpediem jacopo or morgana ?
Sand dan Glokta better
I would put Noncarpediem at number 1 and here is my explaination:
Introduction - His introduction puts many layers and themes, depths and complexity in his first short and it foreshadows his first video which is both their top fictional character and would most likely changed.
Conclusion - Just because a character has not ended does not mean he is bad look at fang yuan.
Themes - Noncarpediem themes are insanely complex and puts many meanings and all of his videos fit into his themes and here are the examples: Debate, Comparison, Thrilling, Entertainment, Adventure, Education and many more and he has 100+ themes like the dude who sold his soul to the devil idk guy.
Depths - His depths are amazing and very complex and it shows all the context with making it long and the depths just works yk yk.
Complexity - Noncarpediem cannot be understand because of his 1000000+ layers and if i were to explain it my mind would be gone like dr1bble's channel.
Pararells - Noncarpediem's pararells shapes his youtube platform channel and his friends around him.
Speeches(Dialogues and Monologues) - His dialogues are like Harry Dubois and his monologues are like John Galt.
Characs - Love, Mercy, Calm, Chill, Sigma, and Selling Hotdogs.
Conflicts and overall conflicts - His debate againts the ignautius victims and himself holding back to turn everyone into a ignautius victims is insane. Shoutout to Wonderlline vs Noncarpediem peak fiction fight.
Symbolism - He symbolizes what a writing debater is and that is being respectful on everyone and the people's takes.
Ideology/ Beliefs / Philosophy - Read FAS, FAUST, Usogui.
@@average_donald_obama_joe_liker
Hahahahahahahaha bro this is genuinely the best comment I've ever received, seriously. Thank you so much for taking the time to analyze me and for mentioning the best character in fiction: Ignatius. Thanks ❤️🔥
@@noncarpediem If Ashin finishes his novel would you start a novel also?
@ I don’t think so. I have written some things but never something similar to a novel, just “fragments”
@@average_donald_obama_joe_likerHE’S WRITING A NOVEL????
@n3ew777 yes
Natsuki Subaru definitely deserved a spot here.
No
im one of the biggest subaru simp but, i think he would be around 130-150
@@ክጎኗኗል try saying that after reading the WN.
@@sayanshouryamuhuri7207 he not in top 100, i dont see he can put in top 100 tbh👀
@@ክጎኗኗል That's the thing people are free to hold whatever opinion they wish even if it's wrong.
Kohler over reinhard by what diff? Or rather, what would you say is the average differential that you have placed in between said characters placing. I do feel as if Edmond should be higher up, but as you said in the pinned comment, that may be another form of glazing on my part. Just as you seem to be in tune with the more and lesser known fictional works regarded by yourself as well written, I would like to ask you for a book recommendation (if not too much a trouble), as I should finish my current soon, and the last book I read, the decision to do so was mostly owned to your own descriptions and edits, and I felt that the book truly lived up to your praise and enjoyed it thoroughly.
kohler likely no diffs. Augusto (top 9) already no diffs so i assume the discrepancy would be even greater
btw myshkin (top 28) also no-low diffs, arguably Bazarov too (top 29)
@@halswife Thank you for the clarification, I couldn't come to a take myself or any other conclusion due to inadequate knowledge, so I thank you for sharing.
@@BertieBourne looking at our conversation in retrospect, no-low diff for those characters might have been a slight exaggeration, but yes, the gap is considerably large between the bottom and top tier characters on the list. if you have any other questions either ask Carpe, me or anyone else here in the community, we're always eager to help.
Sorry for replaying late.
I haven’t read Kohler but I have read Knecht (top 3) and Monster (top 98), and imo Knecht > Monster very low diff. But there’re a lot of interchangeable characters in the list, specially from top 30 to top 10. For instance Haller is in top 8 and Bazarov in top 29, but some people have Bazarov >= Haller, so it’s really close in higher tiers. I guess the list would be more accurate if you divide it into 3 packs of 33 and without any specific order
Muy buen top, felicidades por tu proyecto
Muchas gracias :)
Si al final hacemos una segunda parte y quieres participar házmelo saber.
Por cierto, creo que Pessoa fue introducido en la comunidad gracias a ti, así que muchas gracias. No solo por aportar un nuevo personaje sino que también porque ahora mismo estoy leyendo El Libro del Desasosiego y me está encantando
@@noncarpediemmuchas gracias, me alegro de que Bernardo soares haya sido de tu gusto (también me gusta mucho, pero mi heteronimo favorito es el baron de teive), el libro del desasosiego es en definitiva de lo mejor de Pessoa 🐐.
@@PalpiGOAT-33 Lo leeré también entonces. En que obra/s usa ese heterónimo y cual/es me recomiendas?
@@noncarpediem Baron de teive pertenece a "La educación del estoico", otros trabajos recomendables además del libro del desasosiego serían "La hora del diablo" (que también es una obra más pequeña) y "El primer Fausto" (este ya no es de un heteronimo como tal, sino del mismo Fernando Pessoa).
@@PalpiGOAT-33 Gracias :)
Ulysses above Siddhartha is wild
I know 😔
There're some characters who were victims of glazing...
Visual novels incluided. Great taste indeed!
You won’t believe how many times they tried to remove them 😭😭
Visual novels but no spider-man😭
@@RWR785 In the updated list there are only four VN characters: Naoya Kusanagi, Kurosu Taichi, Kageaki Minato, and Mamiya Takuji. They all slaughter Spider-Man horrendously 🥰
@@n3ew777 those characters are good but Spider-man is emotion. Every reason to become a villain but still chose to be a hero❤. That said Naoya is really funny so I wouldn’t blame you for liking them more than Spider-man
@@RWR785 I guess so. Thing is, I don’t hate Spider-Man, I do like him a lot, but with the amount of things I’ve seen until now he just gets vastly overshadowed. And Spider-Man loses emotion to Jacopo, Michel, Giselle, Morgana, or the White Haired Girl (basically the entire THIFM cast 😅).
Incredible list, I love that you had all the dedication to do this even if you have not read some of the characters here. In my opinion, you are the best editor in the category of writing. Some characters that I would have added are:
Finn the Human (Adventure Time)
Mori Buntarou (The Climber)
Kiruma Souichi (Usogui)
Joe Yabuki (Ashita no Joe) Literally me
Morpheus (Sandman)
Juan Pablo Castel (El Tunel) I did not notice well if he left, if so excuse me for not seeing him
@@raynaciogamerrandomvideos4610 Thank you so much for the appreciation. Regarding the characters, we decided to not include some of them, for example we have Reinhard >=< Joe, and we finally decided to put Reinhard in top 100. Even though, we will take into account the characters you mentioned for the next part :)
And also, W for Castel. You are the first person I know who has read The Tunnel
@@noncarpediemThank you very much for taking my comment into account, by the way another character I would like to add is Pi Patel from Life of Pi, I read the novel recently and it’s quite incredible.
@@raynaciogamerrandomvideos4610 i probably would add
- sun wukong
- hayy ibn yaqzan
- billy pilgrim
- lazarillo
- max otto von stierlitz
- santiago
- grand karcist ion
- kiyoaki matsugae
@@raynaciogamerrandomvideos4610 Mori Buntarou mentioned
You have my respect
Best 5 minutes in my life.
I was really confused when my goat Araragi was only on 88th place(lower than Saul and Elliot lmao).
Still W list
@@Altodementia Thank you for the appreciation :)
We are aware that some placements are not accurate. Btw, maybe you have already done it, but I recommend you to read the disclaimer to understand it better (it’s at the begging of the video)
Forgot to comment on this earlier to say thanks, as this is honestly a great reference to find new things to read.
@@paddle-nn2ir Thank you for your appreciation!
When will you add some of Mishima charachters bro ?
@@Monogoat-n1n Idk, I read the Temple of the Golden Pavillion but honestly I didn’t enjoy it very much. That’s why I haven’t analyzed Mizoguochi
Good ranking, i would put any of the Watchmen characters, Guts & Musashi Miyamoto
I like your style!
Wait Sherlock Holmes is not in top 100?
Or did yall forget about him
@@firefly9643 Probably we forgot him, or maybe it’s just that we haven’t analyzed him. For instance I read Sherlock Holmes when I was around 10 and I don’t remember almost anything tbh, could be the same case for the other of the members
@@noncarpediem yeah I had forgotten about Sherlock Holmes too
People say he's really well written although I haven't read any of the novels yet
Imo he's a good character but saying he even makes it remotely close to top 100 is insane
the ultimate newgen bookmark
Doubt
W video and list from the kindest and best writing channel.
Thank you so much bro, I mean it :)
💯
BoJack and Tony so (relatively) low on the list pains my soul. Still great list! Always enjoy when they’re this large and have this much variety.
Great video
Tengo ganas de leer novelas como El Túnel y Faust que un conocido me los recomendó junto una novela de mechas que tenía más de 6 mil capítulos, que me recomiendas leer para que no se me haga tan pesado? Por cierto excelente video la verdad me gustó mucho la edición, yo pondría a Klein, Morí, Kiruma Souchi, pero viendo a Reinhard en el 100 solo Klein entraría el top, harías uno de 100 mejores piezas de ficción?
@@blurryface5906 Yo recomiendo no leer ni Fausto ni El Túnel porque ambas son obras muy pesadas. Si no sueles leer novelas lo que te recomiendo es que empieces por lecturas más adecuadas como por ejemplo alguna novela de Murakami. La que mencionas de Mechas, no se me ocurre a cuál te puedes estar refiriendo, pero me viene a la cabeza Warhammer.
Y sobre el top 100 de obras no lo sabemos, pero lo más probable es que no.
@ se llama The Mech Touch y un amigo mío me dijo que tardo años en leer hasta el cap 3K pero que son más de 6K dice, está bien veré tu recomendación aun así ando muy joven en esto de la literatura y recién compré algunos libros
@@blurryface5906 Me alegro, cualquier duda que tengas siéntete libre de preguntar
Absolutely insane list. How did you guys find half of these characters?
@@errwhattheflip Thank you! To be honest, the hardest part has been finding the people who have read so many things
@@noncarpediem Yeah, regardless of whatever people might think about the ordering or whatever, the fact that you guys were able to find this many characters, many of which have never been mentioned in the community whatsoever, is incredible
@@errwhattheflip Thank you very much for recognizing the effort and giving more importance to the content than to the order, really
Beatrice mentioned! Fuck yeah!
ooh but Bern higher than Beato......now that's a desicion
Well I can’t really give my opinion on the ranking since it’s based on personal opinion but you cover a wide variety of media and genres so I’ll say it’s a good ranking
@@tacoblude8208 Thank you :)
Wow there’s a lot of characters i don’t know, how do you find good books?
@@NoName-wy7to For recommendations. For me the most important thing is to meet people who have read a lot (more than you if possible) and who have the same literary taste as you. For example, booktubers
I see, got discord for this? Like a book club idk
@@NoName-wy7to Not really. But you can join for example the server of CapEditz, and there’s a writing debates section where you can ask for recommendations. You can also search for some booktubers, or your idea of joining a book club in Discord is also good. If you search in internet I’m sure you will find one
Great Work
Didn't expect to see Ulysses from FNV, lol
I got him there 🥰🥰🥰
The greatest character in American fiction
And New vegas is the greatest piece of American fiction imo
We needed Joshua Graham tho
A weird choice indeed. He's not even the best written character in New Vegas, let alone the entire fallout series.
Him being the second best written videogame character on this list is probably my biggest disagreement with this video. But it's all subjective, anyway...
@@youarealwayscorrect Oh could you help us then? Tell us some of the better character? (Sorry if this came off as rude in any way, I genuinely want to know)
Peak list, do you plan to make top 100 media next 🙏
I don't know, we will see
Bro have to remind people to read the disclaimer every 5 seconds 💀
For real 😭
Bro Gleb Nerzhin image was the best, where did you guys find it
@@Wiiwr I don’t remember it tbh, sorry. I guess you can take a screenshot and search the image in google
@@noncarpediem found it! The Holocaust by metalmiku on DeviantArt
" Domain Expansion: Infinite Knowledge "
- Noncarpediem and the others who helped in this vid (Probably)
Nah more like rushing through random videos and finding characters lmao.
Wait hold on. Michael Corleone is here at 86, I've read the Godfather in its entirety recently enough so I can remember the key parts about it but I wanna share my thoughts about him.
He's definitely a good character, but I feel like he's not THAT great. Main idea is the one who wants to be a mafia boss the least, is the best suited for the position. And that's him. He also has a relationship with Kay and has to reveal to her what kind of man he is, because being a mafia leader means being a criminal, a murderer even.
Just wanted to write this out, if there's anything major to Michael that I forgot, I'd like someone to remind me. Because after all, the idea of this video is the top 100 best characters in ALL OF FICTION. It's definitely something in which a lot of thought should be put (not saying there wasn't much thought behind the ranking, I thank everyone who made the video, but it is hard to not make some oversights in a few instances)
@@Salalazai Yeah that’s also what I have been told. However, this is Michael from de novels, and I’ve heard that there he is better written. But personally I don’t know it because I haven’t read the novels
@noncarpediem oh ok lol, the novel you're talking about is probably what I have read. TBH anything novel/light novel gets glazed TF out both in powerscaling and writing 😭
@@Salalazai Damn sorry I don’t why I read that you had watched the movie, my bad
@noncarpediem lol don't worry about it, once again w vid
2:48 My GOAT Roland🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fan of Roland and Subaru? Peak.
Where is Bazarov? Also Jacopo should be higher + Where is Morgana?
@@MobyDrip I think Bazarov was around top 29. Also, imo Jacopo should be lower and Morgana doesn’t make the top
@noncarpediem Ahh yeah, I missed him at 29. Also, Jacopo > Beatrice any day for me. A lot of the choice made no sense and seemed to just be random. Like, why put Crois at 97? He's far from the best Trails character.
@ Probably you will understand it if you read the disclaimer
@noncarpediem At that point I'd say you should title the list 100 of the best characters ever written instead of making it a ranking. No offence but this is quite meaningless.
@ I know the list is meaningless, but it's not made not to be, we just wanted to make a top, even if it wasn't serious. If someone takes it seriously is their problem since everything is explained in the disclaimer, but even so I think the list is very good considering the circumstances in which we have done it. I myself disagree with quite a few positions, but I think that if we divide the list in 3 groups of 33 it is a convincing result.
Anyway, I don't know why you are surprised that the list is not "meaningful" when not even the writing comparisons are serious... It's something we enjoy and that's all.
But yes, I agree with everything you say.
Thank you all for this amazing list, I'll probably check out some of the characters in there soon. It's great when people in this community actually do something to make others discover new media instead of comparing characters to prove one is better than the other
Thank you very much for appreciating our work even though you are aware of its inaccuracy :) I hope you enjoy the works
t's a nice list, but there seem to be some missing characters. Lich King (wow), Nerose (shinza banshou), The Master or Joshua (Fallout) could be on the list.
@@mr.enclave10 You’re right, we still have a lot of things to discover. Btw this is mentioned in the disclaimer so I would appreciate if you read it
@@noncarpediem Thank you for your advice.
W list(except i have no idea about characters below 60)
The knowledge is insane
Huge W for making such list
How long have you been consuming media btw?
@@szewc-0 Thank you :)
I have been consuming media since I was 8 years old. But I have not read even the 50% of the characters which appear in the list. I recommend you to read the disclaimer to understand it
please
top 100 piece of fiction
A lot of my favourite characters, who I cuddle in my eyes as they are quite in the sunrise, didn't make the list. Still, a good idea.
Next time, add me too if there's some collaboration going on. If you make the next list. Do add Gabriel Oak and Jay Gatsby. I will give you my analysis if you ask me. I think Gabriel Oak is one of the most authentic and yet romanticised versions of a critical romantic character of 18th Century England. Hardy did a wonderful job to flourish his character and cement the emotional resonance (emotions) with her desire, Batsheva, in a very profound, approachable, and realistic manner with respect to Dorset, England, in the 18th century. If you have read Fata Morgana, Gabriel does his job in a more realistic, predominantly with a better psychological and less dramatic manner. And as for Jay, I just see him quite high, and I do know you are quite indifferent to it. But just let me know if you want those analyses of mine. I haven't made it yet, but I am free of work for some days. W edit and collaboration.
@@MR_NOBODY61 Of course!
If you want to add a character you can discuss it with @n3ew777, who is the owner of the project. From what you say, Gabriel Oak sounds like an excellent character.
On the other hand, I'm interested to know what it is about Gatsby that fascinates you so much. Because as you well know, I was a bit indifferent to the reading, and I would like to be able to take into account another point of view.
Thank you very much for your appreciation and support :)
@@noncarpediem Nice. So where can I find that guy? Does he have a dc account? And yes, Gabriel Oak is definitely a fantastic character, as is Batsheva Everdene, the very female protagonist of Far From The Madding Crowd.
I would be glad to showcase the reasoning behind me having Gatsby in a high position. It might help you too to reconcile the feelings towards him. Is it okay if I share a bit of my analysis tomorrow evening (timezone haha)? I will keep it very simple and confined without stretching anything; I will try to deliver it without being biased. Basically, I will answer why his writing's impact and the most dominant aspect of his anti-hero and tragic downfall tendency with the grand similarities with characters like Samsa, Jacopo, Hamlet, and even somehow Rodion. So be ready for it tomorrow. And don't forget to criticise if something about him feels inconsistent or my aiding towards him. That would help us to analyse and give credits to him properly. I am glad you are again showing that you're open-minded.
Also, I have started reading Steppenwolf; I just got the book today. I have very high expectations from him and Hesse (only you hyped me up, haha). Have you read Demian, and if so, how do you compare him to other characters of Hesse? I am sorry if I am chattering too much. I will share this video in my community post. Great job! Love literature always.
@@MR_NOBODY61 As you can understand, I prefer not to give you his Discord without his consent. So if you want to ask him yourself, you can find a comment from him as a reply to my comment where I explain that it is a 500 subs special and everything else.
About the "analysis" of Gatsby, if you don't mind I would like you to pass it to me by dscord because it is more convenient for me.
And finally, I am very happy to know that you have started Steppenwolf thanks to me. I honestly usually recommend reading Demian and Siddhartha first, but well, I don't think it's a very serious problem. And as for Demian, since it was among my first classics I'm not able to remember it as much as I'd like to, so I can only intuitively tell you that I scale Emil Sinclair a bit above Paul and Siddhartha.
I hope you enjoy it very much :)
That character in 1st place 🥶
William Fredrick Kohler. Extreme diffs his closest competitor. Undoubtably top 1 fr.
@@n3ew777 does he deserves that place?
@@thename-of-faxDefinitely does. Still, if you want to read any of the top 3 characters, I recommend Joseph Knecht, then Ulrich, then Kohler, simply because Kohler is unbelievably incoherent and complex.
@@n3ew777 It seems you have pretty high knowledge on this list and fictional characters.
I wanted to know who has best writing among them in your opinion ?
@@thename-of-fax I’m the one who made it, that’s why 😁. Among these characters, the best is definitely Kohler, second is probably Ulrich, and third is Knecht. The rest of the top 10 and maybe top 15 are pretty much CGEW.
Congrats on 500 subs :) 🎉
And congrats on the completion of this project, so many new interesting characters/stories/books to look into
Thank you for the suport
Interesting list to be honest
There are loads of placements I disagree with such as Knecht being near the t10 or Ahab being even in the top 50, but the variety is admirable
Thank you very much for your comment. We are aware of the inaccuracy of the list and therefore we appreciate that there are still people who appreciate the list more for the content than for the order.
If you have any improvements you think you can make to the list, we will be happy to receive them and we will take them into account if we ever make a part 2
Good list. Among the characters that I would have added, there is Sherlock Holmes and Denji (Chainsaw Man).
And spider-man
Yes! Surprisingly, Denji is one of if not my favourite character. He is by no means the best but he carries such a unique personality that is simultaneously relatable and a complete subversion and revolutionary idea when comparing it to the genre and fiction as a whole. He's not the best but in my heart he is one of my all time favourites.
@@RWR785bro stop glazing spider man, he's so mid 😭🙏
@@BagusHallim ain’t no way you called Spider-man mid💀 I bet you haven’t even read the Amazing Spider-man. He is easily top 10 best fictional character
@@RWR785 i read spider man comics since i was a kid, but it's cleary you don't consumed any charachters beside spider- man huh... Batman and Morpheus is way way way better than him
Where lev myshkin
@@Hinoshu_Suzuki I think he was around top 28
You haven't read enough. Time to get back to work bruh
@@oldestdreamdokja Hahshahahahah, W 🗣️
very diverse and stacked list W, i'd recommend Zaregoto, Kiichi!! ( +VS) , Usogui , Rezero LN, and The World Is Mine if you haven't , their mc's are better than a lot of these characters imo. Surprised araragi is so low, nishio ishin is a very talented novelist and araragi ( especially novels ) is amazing. Even so I think the zaregoto's mc ( another Nishio's work ) will be pretty high since araragi already made top 90. Also you should give bleach a try just for Aizen, he's an extremely well written and interesting character and Kubo actually took inspiration from a lot of works on this list such as thus spoke zarathustra
Kiichi is below Reinhard imo, Peak conc btw, and yes, he's reading Usogui, but we agreed that Souichi is below reinhard
And no, Mon and Kiichi aren't better than them... Subaru is the same shit, if u compare them with classical books characters...
@@arii_how I said a lot meaning they would make the list at least, obvsly since yall can value different things they can also not be there . I think classical literature is cool and everything but the modern one , especially Japanese literature , is a style I value more since it’s more relatable . Tho I haven’t read everything from this list
Aizen💀
Aizen has nothing to do with Zarathustra💀💀💀
@@arii_how”subaru is the same shit” read rezero pls 😭
W Joseph K Fr
He is my top 1 of all time 👻
im reading the glass bead game currently. is he above haller in your opinion and is the novel better than steppenwolf?
@@halswife I can't say which one is better because I haven't read steppenwolf but the philosophy in G.B.G is one thing I like so much.
@@TERRORIST_WIN007 yeah, the philosophy in GBG so far is incredible, and I’ve only read around 60 pages or so. I love the idea of the synthesis of all intellectual pursuits into a sort of divine and meaningful singularity (that is portrayed to direct the Individual and Society to God), as well as the reflections on the practical and holistic value of knowledge in the ‘real world’ and its implications in a broader philosophical scope.
@@TERRORIST_WIN007 you should absolutely read steppenwolf btw
@@halswife I guess I'll have to find some free time.
Bro forgor judge holden 💀
Spider-man not being in the top 10 is criminal
@@RWR785 So you have Spider-Man > Hamlet, Bazarov, Quixote, Myshkin…?
@@noncarpediem yes. They are good but spider-man is emotion❤
@@RWR785 If so, would you mind sending me the categories distribution for Spider-Man versus Hamlet?
@@noncarpediem
introduction: Spider-man
Conclusion: Hamlet
Depth: Hamlet
Emotions: Spider-man
Fights: Spider-man
Humour: Spider-man
Backstory: Spider-man
Parallels: Hamlet
Design: Spider-man
Themes: Spider-man
Impact: Hamlet
Role model: Spider-man
Dynamics: Spider-man
Peaks: Spider-man
Valleys: Spider-man
Overall: Spider-man mid-diff
To clarify I’m talking about Spider-man 616 (the amazing Spider-man). I’m also biased as Spider-man taught me that every rude person will turn good once they experience the soul cleansing feeling of helping others. Best way to defeat your enemies is by making them your friends
@@RWR785spider man is not even top 10 in comic bro 😭
Great video, I'm really interested to cjeck out all of those now.
Just a quick question, if it's not a bother, dis you consider putting Klein Moretti on the list, or dis you not read, or simply the others were higher ?
Excellent video anyway, keep it up 🎉
Btw, a bit sad to not see my boy Natsuki Subaru, but that's hiw it is, against these monuments of fiction...
@@DelusionalMf618Thank you! Subaru and Klein are not in the list because we haven’t read their respective worlks
@@noncarpediem Males sense. Fiction is way too large to know everything.
Incredible video once again btw 😊
Also, is the name if the music written somewhere during the video ?
(Anyway, as of rn, Subaru sadly doesn't qualify here, even if it hurts me to say it...)
@@DelusionalMf618 The name of the music is at the end of the video, the last 2-5 seconds below the “Thank you for watching”.
And again, thank you really much for the appreciation :)
@@noncarpediem Thx a lot, because just like the video, this music is a masterpiece.
@@DelusionalMf618 For real, Chopin was a genius 🙏
Peak list guys but still so many charachters that deserve to be on this list like
- Kino (Kino's Journey)
- All the charachters from Sandman Universe
- Yagyu (Lone Wolf and Cub)
- Sun Wukong (Journey to the West)
- Li (Zaregoto)
- Tatsuya Nakadai (The Face of Another)
- Atticus Finch (To Kill a Mockingbird)
-Hayy Ibn Yaqzān (Hayy Ibn Yaqzān)
- Doctor Doom
- Nate Fisher (Six Feet Under)
-Sherlock Holmes
- Tommy Tester (Ballad of Black Tom)
- The Doctor (Doctor Who)
- Hannibal
@@RendiFirmansyah-q7p Thanks for the suggestions, we have to consume them all :)
Ii-Chan has been considered for the next list (It’s not Li 😭). As for the rest, we haven’t yet consumed any, except Sherlock Holmes, who probably won’t make it into the new list. Hannibal was considered before before his removal.
@@n3ew777 sherlock holmes is a very peak charachter, he deserve to be on the top 100 imo, you should read his books 🙏
@@yosuaseptiansitorus Whose the best of the characters you mentioned IYO?
@@n3ew777sun wukong 🙏🙏🙏
Must've racked all of y'all brains to remember all of the characters and create this list heh~ Keep making new content 🙏
@@Cali._ Thank you Cali
Do you know Natsuki Subaru? Not seeing him in this list is kind of sad.
I haven't read ReZero, so I don't know if he would be in the list... As far as I know, he is usually rated very high so I see it possible that he could be in the top 100-80, on par with the likes of Araragi. What do you think?
@@noncarpediem He’s my favorite character in fiction, so I obviously regard him very highly. Please read Re:Zero!
My boys klein moretti, sunny,arthur leywin, kim dokja missing
Arthur and Sunny no, Klein probably, haven't read ORV yet
With all due respect, this may be one of the most misguided perspectives on fiction and the art of writing ever presented.
Characters within their respective narratives serve different roles and are crafted with varying approaches. For example, just because a character is designed for psychological exploration within a story does not make them inherently better written than another character who lacks such aspect. The latter may simply not have been intended for that purpose. Furthermore, including psychological in a character does not automatically reflect superior writing ability. It is the alignment of the character's design with the narrative's needs that truly matters.
Ranking characters by asserting that Writer X did a better job than Writer Y based on such a simplistic and misguided perspective is genuinely insulting. It reduces the complexity of writing to a narrow and flawed metric, disregarding the diverse intentions behind different character designs.
Did ONE of you read the fucking Disclaimer???
@@ChrisTtfw To be honest, I agree with the overall message (even if I think some things are somewhat exaggerated). I don't justify making the top 100, but I just want to make it clear that even knowing everything you say we decided to make the top. We have some reasons for it, but I don't think I owe you any explanation and, to be honest, I'm not even sure that the reasons are completely valid. However, even if they were, it wouldn't change the fact that you are right. So in my opinion there is no point in discussing it.
For the moment, I stand firm with the top. But I respect, admire and to some extent share your opinion.
Anyway, the truth is that I prefer that there are people who take the list as you do rather than people who take it as if it were a “divine” top where the order has even relevance.
Thank you very much for the reflection and have a nice day.
@@ChrisTtfw By the way, if you don't mind, I would like to pin your message. Mainly because I think there are people who have not thought about this and in my opinion it is always good to be able to take into account another point of view.
You've revealed my internal conflict
@@noncarpediem Sure, i ic no problem. Also, im not trying to throw hate or criticize, but I've noticed these kinds of comparisons before, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.
Where does Mori Buntarou from the manga "The Climber" fall into this list?
I for sure thought he'd atleast be in the top 50s
@@firefly9643 We haven’t read The Climber, but we have a friend who has read it and she has Reinhard > Mori. So no, Mori wouldn’t make the top 100
Fair enough
How old are you
i honestly have no idea who most of these are 😭
If it was up to me, I would put Fang Yuan in #1, everything else is irrelevant. Maybe bump up Harry Du Bois to T10.
Anyways, congratulations on the 500 subs. A very interesting list, if I say so, quite the number of characters I have never heard of before. Definitely will be worth checking out in the future.
Thank you so much for the appreciation! Next time we will put Fang Yuan in top 1 fr 🗣️
@@noncarpediem I will be awaiting the good news. Fang Yuan deserves to be put higher on the list, he's an amazing and beautiful character.
W bias fr
@@ZeroTwo-bh9ve Steppenwolf victim
@@firebirukgezu Nah 🗣️🗣️
When I saw fang on 96 I already knew this was going to be peak. Cap will surely like this. Anyway, W video and W for appreciating underrated works
Fire list (many no writing chars tho, but less than in dribble's list)
But that's not an objective ranking not because of reasons mentioned in the disclaimer, but because writing is 101% subjective no matter what you do 🥶
And who tf are those nggаs in t5, Marcel Proust inflation is real 😭
And who саrеs, you put Stav over Myshkin holy W 🗣🗣🗣
writing is definitely subjective to a large extent, especially when it comes to personal taste. But I’d argue there are still elements of a story or character that can be assessed more objectively. Things like how consistent a character is, how well their goals are defined, or how effectively their arc resolves within the narrative. (etc. Introduction, Conclusion, Complexity, Consistency, Backstory, Goals, Development, peaks, narrative)
@@shayow7159 I'd say how consistent char is as subjective as which char is better. How well goals are defined - no way to proof, how complex is char - no way to proof etc. I don't see anything objective in writing, no matter what anything will be based on opinion - whether it's your own or majority opinion. There is no way to objectively proof, f.e. how Marcel Proust is better character than Gojo Satoru, any statement will be based on beliefs and so on. The line between good and bad is blurrеd аsf (and there are many examples of char being thought as well written or bad written just because of majority opinion). There is also thing like "fоrсеd hаte" which is just hаting on char and refusing to even analyze it (Tanjiro, Deku, Denji, Guts but rarely).
All in all, humans are too biаsеd to judge 😭
Maybe it's just me, since 99% of chаrs i love get absolutely hаtеd by majority, but i don't see a way to actually proof superiority of one chаr over another.
As a typical reader of fiction, I sometimes spend time on TikTok for boktub, so i think you mostly refer to those comparisons shorts if so I totally relate to you
**There is also thing like "fоrсеd hаte" which is just hаting on char and refusing to even analyze it**
they confuse enjoyment with writing, those self proclaimed elitists some call themselves like this, not necessarily interracially, meaning inherently they are superior to others in opinions. And those who just comment without analysis or most likely never even touching the piece of work, shouldn’t be taken seriously if there is a know internet term as troll, they hate just to hate **the line between good and bad is blurrеd аsf, and there are many examples of char being thought as well written or bad written just because of majority opinion,**
A debate, analysis its a mix between both subjectivity and objectivity, you saying “i don't see a way to actually proof superiority of one chаr over another.”
so what do you think, who is better written
peppa pig, hello kitty or guts, i hope we are on the same page, so i know that there’s more to it, I don’t want to get into deph or anything, I’ll just summarise it as much as possible, if Character A consistently makes choices that align with their established traits and goals, while Character B constantly contradicts themselves without reason, Character A might be objectively stronger in that category. *All in all, humans are too biаsеd to judge 😭* this is unnecessary but anyway, humans are but there are tools that are not for example AI, welp at least they are more objective than subjective,i am going to theorise that you can literally ask a task to chatGPT to do in-depth analysis, so in the end the media that comes up with this stuff is by larger extent biased than based so yeah i am going to stay to my opinion and you can agree to disagree i think however objectivity exists but in its own scaling.
@@shayow7159 1. Fоrсеd hate still affects opinions of everyone cause people are biаsеd.
2. Nobody on planet earth could proof Guts is better anyway, that's just your pov. Consistency is blurred term, while being better written is even more blurrеd, so still char A can't be proven better than char B, and guts can't be proven better than hello kitty (who tf is hello kitty anyway ⁉️😭).
3. Ai is based on human information and created by humans.
4. Percentage can be higher
Great list
I would personally place characters like alyosha,pechorin and paul higher
Awesome list but there are characters like guts, Kenzo Tenma, Wolfgang Grimmer, Gatsby and Joshua Graham that in my opinion, deserved a spot. Other than that, incredible work!
I have read Monster, Berserk and The Great Gatsby, and I scale them lower than the characters in top 100-90. That's why they are not in the top. I recommend you to read Frankenstein (for example, Frankenstein Monster is in top 98) to realize that that even the characters in the top 100-90 are excellent
@@noncarpediemOh ok it's understandable, its cool you've read them. And you've played the house in fata morgana. You have exceptional taste. Do check out the innocent manga, I think you might like it.
@@noncarpediemI will sometime in the future. Thank you for the suggestion
Respectfully speaking gets slaughtered by Reinhard in writing, who is the 100th in this list. Take this list as dr111ble’s list on crack pretty much 🥰.
@@panoskoumarianos2988Thank you for the recommendation, I might read it
I saw this video a few hours after it got posted, only now I comment on it tho. Which was a blessing since that day I remembered dr1bbble’s top 100 characters video that I couldn’t watch since his channel had been deleted. I like this list since I’ve got introduced to some new characters that will definitely be added to my tbr list. I also got the Frankenstein novel (I got a few days before this video came out that I planned to finish for Halloween but didn’t 😭) so I was shocked to see that the monster was that well written to be on the list, since I did hear many great things about the novel but not about the writing of the monster. And the first two volumes of Lotl that I got alongside Frankenstein. But I was kind of eh about Phos being over some characters since I’ve heard some great characters mentioned that are better than Phos that weren’t on here. But I did read the disclaimer and it’s true, writing is subjective. Loved seeing Michael Corleone on here, he needs more love in the writing community. Anyways enough of this yap, W vid bro and will definitely drop a sub since you do edits as well ❤.
@@sinister434 Thank you so much bro. I’m glad to know that this video encouraged you to read more, I really hope you enjoy Frankenstein and literature on general
Sun wukong should be atleast in the top 20, he's easily the best charachter in eastern media, ya'll should read Journey to the West, and i hope you will included him in this list someday and i want to see you made sunwukong edits, i'll be wait until you guys finally finish read it and i want to hear your opinion about the book and sun wukong intself in general 🙏
@@yosuaseptiansitorus We already have it in our pending list, thank you for your recommendation :)
Speaking of eastern media, i think characters from Romance of the Three Kingdoms should be in this list imo
Nah he should be in top 10
can you explain why William F. Kohler is one of the best fictional character?
Natsuki Subaru definitely deserved a spot here, great list tho.
We haven’t read Re Zero, but yeah, we have heard that he is an amazing character
@@noncarpediem Understandable. Re:Zero is a little difficult to get into what with it's huge amount of content. If you do check it out tho, I hope you'll consider Subaru for the updated list you mentioned ✌️
W, YKB! He should be Top 1!
@@noncarpediemNatsuki Subaru is an amazing guy. You should definitely read Re:Zero and experience peak fiction.
@@Jancho Definitely man. No one tops my 🐐
Where would you rank Grenouille?
@@zapperFr Probably between top 100 and 125
@@noncarpediem I see
Also amazing video man
Expecting a part 2 fr
3:57 the four great works mentioned the four great works mentioned the four great works mentioned the four great works mentioned the four great works mentioned
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Outlaws of the marsh
Journey to the west
Golden lotus
Romance of the 3 kingdoms
W list
Thoughts on Hannibal Lecter?🤔
I haven't read / watch it
@HargorodTheGreat wuts bad? I haven't read it
Fang yuan no.1
Glazing
i agree
Even my uncle is more well written than that fraud 😭🙏
i love fang yuan, but i think he should be higher but not by a large margin@@BagusHallim
@@FictionFixer kim dokja >>>
Congrats for nearly reaching 500 subs and for the list. Since my opinion has been more than stated, I'll keep it to myself. Regardless, great list, and I'll probably take some recommendations from it; my thanks to the whole team behind it. Huge W.
Thank you very much for your appreciation, on behalf of the whole team :)
WHO THE HECK ARE MOST OF THEM! ❤🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥(just joking lol)
Also I must say that it's surprising to see Jacopo and Beatrice that low, considering how highly regarded they are. Though it is your personal list, and it seems you prefer more classical works.
Classical works are really high cause Rodya 😁
@@n3ew777 Pardon, Rodya? What is that?
@@Vecta-CSAP- A member of the team
@@noncarpediem Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying.
@@Vecta-CSAP- A member of our time whose quite possibly deranged 🥰. If could I’d glaze my dear Jacopo into the top 10 but unfortunately I couldn’t.
Can't wait to see the list🗣
I thought faust gonna be on 1😢
most overrated character of today
@@johnniewalkereditsfake
Almost 10k views, hang in there 🎉
random character i just created in my head rn victims
Fr
write here this character's story