As a resident of Pearce and finding the history you have shown here is a lesson for me and appreciated immensely. Great job with your knowledge as I've heard the story once before without the detail you were able to give by one of the residence of Dragoon. Great job. Love the enthusiasm. shown.
Thought you might like to know. I moved to the tiny community of Dragoon two years ago. I stumbled upon your post about the stage stop and went out and found it. Now I bring visitors to the site for something to do. Thanks for letting me know about it 🤠
Nice work on the history, well presented. Thanks. I believe those Confederates killed there were pushing horses, mules and cattle east to meet up with Confederate Colonel Baylor in Mesilla because Union General Carleton and his California Volunteer Army were marching east. Rough times at this place for sure. Carleton was held up at Apache Pass later and had to fight off Apaches before continuing east to clear the Rebels out of NM and AZ Territories.
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Although basically a good narrative, a few important corrections. Silas St. John, the survivor of the massacre was never an employee of Wells, Fargo & Co. John Butterfield's Overland Mail Company was a stock holding company and Wells, Fargo & Co. never had any physical involvement in the OMC. After the Overland Mail Contract was transferred to the Central Overland Trail in March 1861, St. John returned to his hometown of New York City and worked for Adams Express Co. In 1919, he lived in San Diego where he died. In 1940, a bronze plaque was mounted on his gravestone stating that he had worked for Wells, Fargo & Co. The plaque was stolen and recovered. According to the Wells Fargo & Co. official historian the plaque was not remounted because he stated that St. John was never a Wells, Fargo & Co. employee and that the Dragoon Springs Stage Station was never a Wells, Fargo & Co. stage station. Wels, Fargo & Co. never operated on the Southern Overland Trail with their name on the transom rail of a stage. Also, according to the primary source reference there is only one Confederate soldier buried at the station. As the narrator stated, reading the interpretive marker at the graves, Confederate solder Sgt. Ford is buried there. Also, stated that one of the graves was "Ricardo" a Mexican-American boy tending the cattle for the Confederates--therefore not a Confederate soldier. The marker properly states that one of the graves "may" be that of John Donaldson, because of the information they had at the time, and the other is unknown. The erroneous marker is based on ambiguous and contradictory reports. There were no Confederate orders for the battle, only second and third-hand reports from the California Volunteers. We now know from primary source references that John Donaldson was killed nine miles northwest of Tucson at Nine Mile Water Hole--ninety-three miles from Dragoon Springs Stage Station. A pioneer named N. B. Apple who owned a store at Tubac since 1855 gave the details for the death of Donaldson. Also, Confederate soldier Sgt. Ford's body is no longer buried there. There is a National Forest Service desecration report that the grave was dug up and his body is no longer there. If only the primary source references are used without speculation, then there are only five bodies, a head, and an arm buried somewhere in the vicinity of the stage station.
not being cynical, this is the beauty of American History 🤣its always one sided...why do I get the feeling that the St. John guy did something to a sister or cousin of one of the Mexican worker? REVENGE, but we will never know. RIght??
(I sent this possible video idea to you via FB messenger also). Hey guy, I was watching a movie about Doc Holliday today (“Doc” Stacey Keach, Faye Dunaway) Im writing because Dunaway plays Katie Elder, whom I always thought was a fictional character from a John Wayne movie. It turns out she was Holliday’s common-law wife and as colorful, if not more than any of the Earp women, yet relatively unknown. She is buried in Prescott. Here is a good bio you may enjoy: www.texasescapes.com/MaggieVanOstrand/Katie-Elder-Her-True-Story.htm
As a resident of Pearce and finding the history you have shown here is a lesson for me and appreciated immensely.
Great job with your knowledge as I've heard the story once before without the detail you were able to give by one of the residence of Dragoon.
Great job. Love the enthusiasm. shown.
Thought you might like to know.
I moved to the tiny community of Dragoon two years ago. I stumbled upon your post about the stage stop and went out and found it.
Now I bring visitors to the site for something to do.
Thanks for letting me know about it 🤠
Awesome video. Some great and interesting info.
Great video. Thank you for all the details 🤍
I believe your best video to date. Thanks for the history lesson 👍🏻
Thanks.
fascinating video. I enjoy your videos. Thanks for the great content.
Thanks for watching!
And congrats on 2k
Hey Dean, we'll be inviting you over for family bedtime stories! Fascinating stuff!
Thanks so much for the support.
Awesome video. I am related to John Butterfield on my moms side!
Hey, another great video! Your awesome Jeep Rubicon JL needs a detail and protection from the elements! We can help ;)
Nice work on the history, well presented. Thanks. I believe those Confederates killed there were pushing horses, mules and cattle east to meet up with Confederate Colonel Baylor in Mesilla because Union General Carleton and his California Volunteer Army were marching east. Rough times at this place for sure. Carleton was held up at Apache Pass later and had to fight off Apaches before continuing east to clear the Rebels out of NM and AZ Territories.
Very well done 👏
We used to camp near there
Nice info!!!
.•*""*•.¸☆ *Hello ARIZONA TIMELESS TOURIST* ☆¸.•*""*•.¸ *Thank you for sharing this video with us! it was interesting for me, you steel have your jeep to make us a trip in the desert* It's really exotic for a frenchie as me. This landscape is so amazing. I wish you all the best for this week.
🍾🍷🍇 FROM 𝓒ⒽⒶ𝓜ⓟ𝓐𝓰𝓝𝓔 𝓢Ⓨ𝓛𝓥𝓘𝓔 ⓋⒾⒹⒺⓄ🍾🍷🍇
Although basically a good narrative, a few important corrections. Silas St. John, the survivor of the massacre was never an employee of Wells, Fargo & Co. John Butterfield's Overland Mail Company was a stock holding company and Wells, Fargo & Co. never had any physical involvement in the OMC. After the Overland Mail Contract was transferred to the Central Overland Trail in March 1861, St. John returned to his hometown of New York City and worked for Adams Express Co. In 1919, he lived in San Diego where he died. In 1940, a bronze plaque was mounted on his gravestone stating that he had worked for Wells, Fargo & Co. The plaque was stolen and recovered. According to the Wells Fargo & Co. official historian the plaque was not remounted because he stated that St. John was never a Wells, Fargo & Co. employee and that the Dragoon Springs Stage Station was never a Wells, Fargo & Co. stage station. Wels, Fargo & Co. never operated on the Southern Overland Trail with their name on the transom rail of a stage. Also, according to the primary source reference there is only one Confederate soldier buried at the station. As the narrator stated, reading the interpretive marker at the graves, Confederate solder Sgt. Ford is buried there. Also, stated that one of the graves was "Ricardo" a Mexican-American boy tending the cattle for the Confederates--therefore not a Confederate soldier. The marker properly states that one of the graves "may" be that of John Donaldson, because of the information they had at the time, and the other is unknown. The erroneous marker is based on ambiguous and contradictory reports. There were no Confederate orders for the battle, only second and third-hand reports from the California Volunteers. We now know from primary source references that John Donaldson was killed nine miles northwest of Tucson at Nine Mile Water Hole--ninety-three miles from Dragoon Springs Stage Station. A pioneer named N. B. Apple who owned a store at Tubac since 1855 gave the details for the death of Donaldson. Also, Confederate soldier Sgt. Ford's body is no longer buried there. There is a National Forest Service desecration report that the grave was dug up and his body is no longer there. If only the primary source references are used without speculation, then there are only five bodies, a head, and an arm buried somewhere in the vicinity of the stage station.
not being cynical, this is the beauty of American History 🤣its always one sided...why do I get the feeling that the St. John guy did something to a sister or cousin of one of the Mexican worker? REVENGE, but we will never know. RIght??
(I sent this possible video idea to you via FB messenger also).
Hey guy, I was watching a movie about Doc Holliday today (“Doc” Stacey Keach, Faye Dunaway)
Im writing because Dunaway plays Katie Elder, whom I always thought was a fictional character from a John Wayne movie. It turns out she was Holliday’s common-law wife and as colorful, if not more than any of the Earp women, yet relatively unknown. She is buried in Prescott. Here is a good bio you may enjoy:
www.texasescapes.com/MaggieVanOstrand/Katie-Elder-Her-True-Story.htm