THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! EVINRUDE FICHT (2022)
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY! EVINRUDE FICHT (2022)
Ladies and Gentleman take a seat, ask that the children leave the room and enjoy this fine Andy rant about one the greatest outboard of all time! NOT!!!
The FICHT is on the chopping block and for statistical purposes Jordan counted each swear word and this video has officially set the record for most swear words out of any other Team Marine Service video! Andy really loves the FICHT'S and after you watch this video you'll understand his passion. Enjoy! Speed, Money & No Brakes!
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"It's a Wednesday motor and it's Friday"
About pissed myself 🤣
I had a 2000 200 ficht on my old ranger. It had around 700 hours when I sold it. Only issue I ever had was a crack in a capacitor that made it hard to start below 20ish degrees. Got that fixed and it was all good after that. I actually liked it, quiet, powerful, and sipped oil and I mean sipped compared to my Optimax. To my knowledge it's still going!
Thank you for this video, I had one of these and what yall said was very true
What horsepower Ficht did ya have?
@@TeamMarineService I had a 1999 150. It still runs surprisingly and I stranded us on the lake a hand full of time. We sold that junker Great when running🤣
Dang that makes me feel a lot better about running a FORCE. At least it's cheap and worst it could do is lose comp instead of killing me😂
had a 2000 ficht until late last year. AWESOME engine still running great in TN with a new owner ran great, great on fuel and oil always runs great
“They should have sold the Fucking motor with a life raft “. Greatest quote ever. This is by far the best episode on this channel ever
Team Marine TV checking in!
Hello!!
What's up Andy 👋
DO the lower HP (90 HP) have the same problems and are they just as shitty? Im asking because im considering purchasing a boat with a 2000 90HP,. Everywhere online says the FICHT are trash but the problems were mostly with the larger HP 6 cylinders and the lower HP 4 cylinders should be fine. Would you agree with that statement?
I've commented before about mine. 99 200 ficht pushing 1200 hours. New power head at 700 hours and new lower unit at 950 hours. Aside from those 2, all else has been regular maintenance.
One good thing to add is, any boat powered with an evinrude most of the time is significantly cheaper than other boats powered with mercury or yamaha. Run it hard and if it ever goes, then repower with something different of your preference. If it doesn't then you got a boat at a decent price. I've also always been a fan of how quiet and powerful the etecs were too.
"Then they went water cooled....better idea.....Cool it down with the water...We got a water pump... Lets fking cool it down"... I have watched this video countless times and I crack up every single time.. Its classic.
I worked for omc at the javelin plant we had an in water boat show where about 75 out of 110 popped the first day or two we had several factory motor reps there to replace the power heads until they ran out of spares that boat show was the beginning of the end for omc
Great video Andy! Staying way away from those
Thanks buddy! Don't walk, run!
Appreciate this video very much. Thanks. As of this month I have been a marine mechanic for a half a century... OMG time flies lol... anyway,.....
Was a mechanic and service manager in central florida for stratos , bayliner and a few other brand names. First year ficht we sold some 300 of them. 9 out of every ten died within hour 1. No shit. OMC ended up delivering semi truck loads of replacement powerheads and lowers. Those as well jsut ran for a short time and boom.. gone. I was ashamed of my beloved OMC. I have zero doubt that ficht was the final nail in the casket for OMC. VRO was bad enough, ficht cost them tens of millions of dollars that first summer and they never recovered. Recall after recall after recall and never did they figure it all out. What a shame. The idea was fantastic to a point. Just had a reality issue that blew everything into oblivion.
Who's had a FICHT out there? What's your experience been like?
I got a 2006 Evinrude on my 97 Gambler it’s still running and running really good….. for now
@@evanshillcoxfishing7929 Nice! What mph are ya hitting in that G?
The one thing you left out on the good, Evinrude took Johnson off the market. It Went from two chitty outboards to slimming down to one. No more options of what chitty outboard to choice out of 😂
I had a 1998 Johnson 150 Ficht. It was upgraded for free in 2000 to the new Ram Ficht which changed the amount of oil injected. I ran it on a 18’6 Hydra Sports until 2014 when I traded for a Ranger with Mercury 225 Pro XS. I must have got lucky but engine was never in the shop the 16 years I owned it except for the Ram upgrade. I had many more issues out of the Mercury. I now have a Yamaha VMAX SHO 250 4 stroke and love it.
I got one 😊👏. I hope nothing happens to mine 🤣. Speed money no brakes. I'll give my horror story when it happens 😭🤙
Still running a 2000 model 225 Ficht to this day! When she runs you can't beat it, when she's down finding parts is a nightmare! But super powerful and fun to run
Dude my grandfather has a 1998 Johnson 175 fitch they have had since day one, it still runs and we have never had a problem with it. We have no idea how it’s still going 😂.
Wow!!! We've heard a couple other stories like that. It's nice to hear
Have a 2003 250 HO on a ranger 521vs and have never done anything other than routine maintenance. I must be one of the lucky ones but mine runs great.
My fishing partner bought a Lowe 18 with the 115 Ficht and he ran it for over 15 years with no problems but regular maintenance
It went through spark plugs faster than other outboards but it was a great motor
Maybe the V4 where different or he just got lucky
So what you're saying is I should definitely buy the 2000 evinrude Ficht ram 150
I’ve got the intruder on my bass cat, 1700 hours and still running strong. That thing is indestructible
Not the same thing. That’s a carbureted motor and those ran great. Not comparing apples to apples.
I have a 99/2000 200hp ficht on my basscat pantera classic. So far I have had no issues with it and it is running great for now. But I am dreading the day something happens.
Had a ‘99 FICHT 175 that ran like a scalded dog and was one of the most reliable 2 stroke I ever ran!! Block was a recall so the heads were pinned and the ECU had the coolant line reroute! I ran Evinrude’s exclusively for 20 years and I believe they killed them selves by putting stuff out before it was ready (VRO, FICHT…) but man when you got em right there was no touching them!!! But now I’m into reliability so it Suzukis for me from here on out!! Speed, Money, No Brakes!!
SHO OVERALL
Had a 99 115Ficht. No problems for 6 yrs. Running good when I traded in on a 2007 BassCat Pantera with 200 Opti. Still got that one. Been reliable too (only has 137hrs today).
Best one yet! Your freaking hilarious. Almost bought one in 98. Instead a Johnson 150 fast strike oil burner on a 186 champion. Motor ran great no problems for 18 years. Thanks for your videos.
Just an FYI Andy swore 112 times! 👍🏻🤣👍🏻
🤣🤣🤣
I have 2x90 hp 2011 e tecs on my 18 ft butt cat. They have been good to me, and i hve to admit that i am not sorry i ever bought them. They sometimes stand for 6 months, turn the keys and they run.
I have a 1998 150 with over 900 hours on it. Still runs like a champ, very dependable motor,
I must be lucky. I have a 98 150hp with 1600 hours on it. Runs great, I did have to replace the spring in fuel pressure regulator. It was about 50% worn away on one side making it weak.
I love your videos! I was just given a 200 ficht from the late 90s. We are rebuilding a 1985 tournament winner boat 19ft. We are shooting you tube videos and will start posting in about a month.
"Your f*****g cowling goes 300 feet up in the air" This is why I watch 🤣🤣
Wonderful sound effects! Probably the best I’ve ever heard 😆
Buddy bought one in 1999 (175). It lasted less then 6 minutes. As he did not make it past the no wake zone. Idling killed a lot of those good anchors.
Went with my Dad to buy a new 1999 sprint the dealer told him if your going to go with OMC buy the carb Johnson 150 , by the way it’s still running one power pak replacement in all the time. The dealers knew in 99 that the tech was junk. I may be very wrong an I usually am but I’ve had a g2 150 for 3 years now an have been very happy with only time will tell if this engine was solid engine or not? But I do know one thing the big price increases for the boat an motors plus interest rates will hurt the new boat sales in the future! Which means people will be coming to you to keep there used stuff running! An again always love your channel!
Freaking love this one!!
I know you don’t see em much, TMS being in the north might see em more, but I would love a good, bad, ugly on the Verado line of motors!!
Had a 1998 175 on my triton. When it ran good it was great but it had many days where it just ran so so. She finally blew up on easter sunday 2022. No warning no alarms just boom. Hole in the block with the piston comin out.... savin money to repower now.
Had a 98 Johnson ficht. Blew two power heads while covered by warranty. They gave me a 2000 power head. Never had a problem after that but always helps my breath when it would blow again. Traded that boat in 2019. Was happy to see it go.
Friend of mine here in Alabama has an 02 that has somehow been the greatest outboard motor we have ever seen. Thing just runs and has no quit in it. Think it has around 22-2400 hours in it now, on a ranger tournament rig, things on the water just about every weekend running around like a scalded dog. Idk how it does what it does but it just works. Blows my mind.
Great to hear that! Wish they were all like that
I got a 2006 Evinrude on my 97 Gambler it’s still running and running really good….. for now
my 50 etec blew up last friday on pool 7 -- already have a 60 Suzuki on the way
I bought a Bullet with a 225hp FICHT. Bad ass boat, first time out with it and it went into limp mode. Coolant temp sensors where junk. replaced them, researched the motor, found out about the massive issues, and unloaded it quick while it still ran.
I have a 98 fichts that is still running pretty strong
I've got a 2019 etec 90 hp and it's been flawless the last 5 yrs. Quiet at idle, great fuel milage and barely uses any oil.
Bought a used stratos with a 99 225. Was running good till lower unit went out and btw the EMM don't like the cold either. Was in a tourney in January. Would turn over but wouldn't crank. Got a Merc on the way just waiting for it to come in
I have a 2003 225 ho on my triton tr20 and it runs like a scalded dog. I use the recommended xd100 oil and keep all maintenance up on it. Have never had any issues.
I own a 2000 Ranger with a 1999 Fitcht 115HP Evinrude. The only problem with my 25-year-old engine was the electric fuel pump stop working, after sitting a few years with out starting it. Replaced with the same one that came with it, was not difficult to do. I do maintain on a regular basis and I run the XD100 synthetic oil. The engine has been reliable so far, so cannot bad mouth it. I do fish on reservoirs, the lake water is not bad like what your are talking about.
I'm still running a '98 first gen FICHT Saltwater series and it's gone through two coil modules and having PDP issues but it's at 650 hours (or more) but otherwise it's never melted an EMM, and usually a turnkey motor, Sips on oil and it likes to be ran hard so yeah, not a bad motor in my experience.
I've got a 1999 150 only 252 hours on it but so far just computer rebuilt last year otherwise it's been flawless haven't even replaced the plugs
Thanks Neil great video andy as usual
I see a brand battle in the future force vs ficht. Lol.
Hilarious!!!! Andy do you need a hug after that one!? Hahaha
Love the constant Jordan stuff…..
Right Jordan…..
Ok Jordan….
Do this Jordan……
Hilarious!!
Great Show!!
Man I hate most content but this here is gold and you kill it breaking it down 🤌
I’ve ran Etec g1’s for 12 years and thry have always gotten me from A to B and back again. Got over 500 hours on my current 2013 G1 150. Been an incredible motor. A buddy of mine that can tear up a crow bar in a sand box couldn’t even pop one. He’s 3 for 4 on Optipops though!
Etecs are great. This guy just hates evinrude due too the ficht days. Yamaha hpdis were a nightmare when they came out and so were optimaxs
500 hours really isn't shit. Even the Mercs make it to 500 hours. if your still running a g1 etec you got one of the good ones.
@@andrewhensen8638 under water blasting crew has a fleet of industrial boats all with Yamaha and etec g1s. All with thousands of hours of abuse and he told me he would take the etecs over his Yamahas. He has 5 boats each with 2 150, and 135 etecs and 5 boats with Yamaha 4strokes 150s. All engines of different years. Maybe he got lucky and somehow got 10 amazing etecs ? Same as all the etecs running tournament circuits here ? They must have all been extremely lucky and the optimax guys here must be super unlucky since most are on their second or third powerhead. The only reason I bought my etec was from multiple mechanic opinions and guys who actually run them. Every single guy who hates evinrude and shits on them are guys who have never owned one. I'm not brand loyal and think they all make good outboards. They all have issues especially when not maintained right. I can say that based on local all the info from owners and mechanics here the last engine I'd buy is an optimax and even they aren't that bad. Now....Fitch engines ya they were scary bad but that was OMC being cheap. They had amazing technology but tried to use the cheapest parts possible. If they would have just put the money into good part manufacturing they would have never tarnished the evinrude name.
@@EmergeFromTheAshes1 I have a 20 year old Yamaha 70hp 2 stroke. Not sure on hours but it’s been ram and it runs in temps from 95 down to 5. Very trustworthy motor. Only been in shop a few times for water impeller.
@@andrewhensen8638 I'm talking about the first HPDI engines not your 70 two stroke carb engine. Those are great engines
Love my 99 225 Ficht! Only issue and maybe you have some insight is not starting when it’s below 45-50 degrees. Sun comes up a little and boom fires up! But I enjoyed the ficht bashing, can’t hate on my great fuel economy right now though
Hi, thanks for your video. I guess I'm lucky I've had the boat new since 2000 we've used it for years. No real problems at all until now. 2023 is when it started cutting out. When you take off wanting to die when you you put it in gear we've spent couple thousand dollars trying to get it fixed. Once you get it going it goes okay. It's just taking off. We do ski with it too so that's screwed that up. They've changed the spark plugs 've always garaged it. It's always been inside. Taking good care of now. We just can't get it fixed so wanting to sell it. Pat, after watching your video, I'm not too excited about selling it to somebody. Is there anything you can tell me about why this issue is happening? Or maybe a quick fix that Mike? Let us sell it. It's really weird. If you hook it up to water in the shop it runs fine but you put it in the lake. It's never been in the ocean only lakes. You get the issue of it dying when you put it in gear and cutting out as you take off. Any help with a fix issue on this would be great
It's a 115
When Polaris went to FICHT on their PWC’s it was a nightmare for all. We called it FUC*ED.
It’s crazy to hear these horror stories. My grandpa runs a ranger r81 with a 2000 175 Ficht and has been flawless.
We are currently running a ranger r91 with a 2015 G1 200 HO and she runs like a dream. I actually emailed you with a set up question so the timing of this video is ironic. Great content as always 👍
Hope you plan on doing the same regarding Optimax and HPDI being as they had severe issues as well, only difference was due to Bankruptcy and loss of warranty.
The omc carb motors were tough as nails......the johnny 225ho was a stout motor. The little 150 and 175s ran strong aside from the black box ignition deals.......went thru a few of them. The ficht not so much.....junk.
The lowers were ok long as you didn't run them on a real performance rig jacked up above pad. Went thru a few lowers too. The lightning lower unit was actually a pretty fast lower unit, they just couldn't make the guts last in them.
I live in the NW part of Oregon and we had a huge surge of these evinrudes show up in the early to mid 2000s. It’s very rare to see one now and it’s obvious why 😂.
Thanks Neil!
Never had one but I was fishing not far from a buddy that had one blow up when he was trying to start it. I heard the boom and then saw him throwing his kids in the water with the back of the boat on fire. Not a fun day on the water.
Andy, you gave my abs a workout with this one. Hilarious. "Should have sold the F-ng motor with a life raft" Bwahahahaha
I've 2012/13 Evinrude Etec 250 H.O., had Mercury Fury 25P on it when i bought boat from dealer. bought Raker II 26P from a Pro. My Rpms were too high. Pro said that year Etec was good motor & only went to Mercury because G2 sucked & they Quit making anymore. I run it few times a year on trips. Ive replaced 2 trim motors, 1 water pump & 2 sets plugs indexed properly. i use either startron or Techron in fuel every so many tank fill ups.
I love the FICHT!!!
No you don't!!!
@@TeamMarineService do too 😂
Powerheads flying off the driveshaft and going forward, defying the law of physics????
Motors exploding because of a failed injector????
Dude, you're confusing a dream you had while doing 'shrooms, with reality.
Hey everyone!!! Glen owns a FICHT I bet!! 🤣🤣🤣 Read the interwebz bud! ;)
@@TeamMarineService Nope, I don't want a motor with a computer on it.
And I'm not gonna base my "experience" on the shit that I read on one.
@@glensims7959 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@glensims7959 you're correct and that is why Evinrude is coming back. Have you seen the NEW 2024 Evinrude Cammer? It's a Tri-Power V6 SOHC Direct Drive Super Charger outboard. These will be on display at the 2023 Bassmaster Classic in Knoxville this year.... 🍄🍄🍄 🍺🎣
@teammarineservice
Great show, all "good" stuffs for Evinrude etecs. I still roar my 96 Suzuki DT225, beat all 4T Yamaha, Honda and Suzuki 225s by 15 miles faster anytime
Bro do a shop tour please!!
That's a great idea!
You should do a video on Verados. And another video on repowering. More than half the used freshwater boat market is flooded with overpriced boats with two strokes. I need to know how much it'd cost to repower, after trading in an Etec/ProXS and then labor for the repower.
I had a 1998 Johnson carb'd 150, how many years did OMC co-manufacture and sell the carb'd motors as well as the Ficht's?
Best thing is to ask a great mechanic about stuff before you make a Boat purchase. Perfect example. Thanks for the info.!!! But who does not like dual exhaust sound!!
I have a 1998 175 ficht only blew up once in 24 years just quit running about 3 weeks ago not sure what happened.
I love your videos. I watch them all mainly for entertainment. I did just purchase new Suzuki outboards based on your positive reviews of them. 90 and a 9.9.
I just bought one today.... lol... Thanks for the info... good think the motor **cough bomb** was cheap....
Hey Andy, I think a good idea for the next video would be a comparison with the 3 new live sonars, lvs 34, mega live, and active target.
I feel as if it was literally 50/50 with the fichts. You got a lemon or a good one. Toss a coin.
90/10...90 Bad/10 Good that ran great and are still running
I have a 2005 250 ficht only issues I've had was a starter going out I have close to 500 hours on mine
Question concerning emf overheating on the water cooled version:Wasn't there a Re-Route of the Cooling Lines to Help or Eliminate that particular issue?I vaugly remember a Friend telling me that his 175 Had that problem and the fix was a change to the way the water was sent to cool them down better???
Like others have commented, its a crap shoot with the Ficht. Some grenaded immediately while others are running today with 1000+ hours on them. I have a 2000 225 with 500+ hrs. It had the injector bolt recall completed by the dealer in 2004, and one EMM rebuild in 2014. Other than that, only routine maintenance. If you regularly check the the water lines to the EMM for blockages, you will never have an emm issue. The FICHT is all about preventative maintenance. And if you get good enough at outboard repair to keep a Ficht running well....other motors are absolute cake to work on. OMC put out two lowers for the ficht..the Lightening and the Magnum. The lightening was the one that failed most often, while the magnum was built heavier and much more reliable. The issues you mentioned affected different year models, not all fichts. My 2000 isn't known to have the reed box issue, exhaust blowout, or the head bolt issue. Many FICHTs are junk. But if you did get one of the good ones, you have one hell of a motor. The thing hauls ass and the hole shot is unmatched. It's never left me stranded, and I regularly go offshore from the Texas coast....I do keep my SeaTow membership up to date though...🤣
So I have to ask you at this point. What motor do you actually like? A really good power to weight ratio in something between 101 and 150 hp. I have an old StarCraft Chiefton.
The good is parts were always available. I remember these growing up as a teenager and hearing about them blowing up constantly.
I almost bought a 225 Ficht until I saw this 😂 thank you! I knew the etec was a bomb apparently evinrude comes from a long line of explosive powerheads 😆
Sooooo the old normal 2 stroke non electronic evinrude motors had a awsome reputation . I had two. 135hp long shaft 4 cylinder v motors. Great power to weight ratios. I thought I wanted a E-tech but heard nothing good about them from anyone that had one for more than a year
I have had 2 fichts a 98 175 ficht and a 2004 150 with a jet foot. The 98 got the repinned heads from factory and has almost 600 hrs on it. they both suck fuel and eat oil like its candy but both fire up first turn and runs every time. The worst part of both is the mid range fuel map issue if its not idle or wide open it sounds like a popcorn maker spittin and sputtering. Not a good motor at all but cant be mad at the years ive got out of them.
A little late on the video, but just wanted to add in. I recently purchased a 97 ranger comanche 482vs with a 98 150hp FICHT motor on it with about 800 hours. Very clean and well maintained, but now I'm a little concerned. Did I get lucky with a good one or do I need to rip this thing off and buy a new motor?
Andy, in Maryland many Johnson's and Evinrude's. Had a 200 Ficht 1998, only problem 700 to 1500 rpm run ruff. Dealer updated cpu, ran great for 450hours, sold it and new the new owner put another 450 hours. Purchased a 2008 200 G1 no problem, another 450 hours, best feature self-winterization. 2017 purchased a 225HO G2, another no problem motor, great hole shot, speed, light weight with lithium batteries, kept up with any 20 foot 250. Don't understand, why 4 strokes are popular slow hole shot, heavier, changing oil every 100 hours, costly and 3 days in the shop.
“It’s exciting “ 😂😂😂😂😂
I have a 150 evinrude ficht it's still running
Thanks Neil 😉
Yeah what's up Niel. Can I get some help on my ficht 😂
I’d like to see a video like this on the verados
Our local coast guards boats are all Suzuki now, that tells a lot........
My outboard has the ficht stickers and paint, but that's not what is under the hood
Your sound effects are classic !
I have the evinrude 05 175HP last year of the carbs, I believe brp bombardo took over evinrude in 03.I believe brp fixed the fuel problems w/ carbs, not sure of the computer melting and the powerhead issue. anyway engine runs great but sucks up fuel like crazy. you are incorrect etecs came out in 05 not 07. I didn't know about powerhead bolts being shot out, I'll try to stay away from anyone w/ a fitch don't wanta get exploded.
🤣 you might’ve set a record for Fbombs on this one.
Never had a ficht but do own a 2009 etec 200 HO and it sips oil not bad on gas either and will push my 19 1/2 ft Stratos about 72 mph I can’t complain so far just a bad starter that’s it
He's just a evinrude hater man. We have tons of very good mechanics here that prefer etecs over Mercury's and they sold/work on both. The ficht had issues until brp took over and those ficht were fine !
I've got a 150 at my shop right now. It runs flawless but dang im scared to work on it and be married to it.
Strewth, this takes a lot of careful listening to actually hear the issues between going off on tangents. There was methinking I struggled to keep to the point.. 😁 Some useful info in there.. somewhere..
Your comments are so laugh your ass funny !! Can you bring back the old shirts with the outboard on it jim from nj
The V4 OMC motor was probably the last great motor that came for the Johnson / Rude camp.
Yamaha copied the OMC V4 design and most everyone I know that has them will never get rid of them.
As far as I’m concerned Yamaha picked up the torch that OMC / BRC dropped and did something amazing for outboards.
The G2 was ahead of it’s time (in my opinion) and concept just never reached full potential. Quality control was sacrificed in life of greed and profit. Evinrude took the gamble and lost.
Perhaps one day someone will acquire the Evinrude name and make it great again.
We had 2 in our local club back when there were local clubs (whole different rant). I have always thought....they can't be THAT bad...I worked at a local boat dealer and one of the girls at the front office got one in the lot....the owner came out and lost his mind!!! He just kept yelling "who let that POS show up here"!!! Hahaha