CNA | Talking Point | E32: Are PSLE maths papers too difficult?

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  • PSLE mathematics papers have been a thorn in the side of some parents who claim they are just too tough for 12 year olds. But are they really? Are students being adequately prepared for such questions? Talking Point finds out.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 947

  • @NangongReng1973
    @NangongReng1973 4 роки тому +374

    They say it is too hard every year since many years ago.

    • @applelah
      @applelah 4 роки тому +9

      Non Non w-who are you

    • @sriraam4331
      @sriraam4331 4 роки тому +2

      Nah man last yr was rly easy this yr is slightly harder

    • @osmomosis9216
      @osmomosis9216 4 роки тому +1

      Non Non get some help my friend

    • @KironManuelCards
      @KironManuelCards 4 роки тому +1

      Education should bring up people not put them down.

    • @KironManuelCards
      @KironManuelCards 4 роки тому

      Education should bring people up and not put them down.

  • @kitkat8986
    @kitkat8986 4 роки тому +399

    Every year I look back into the recent PSLE and will solve the fun tricky questions. Sad that the O levels additional maths paper are just dry and pur cancer.

    • @catsto5553
      @catsto5553 4 роки тому +7

      Lol the paper was ok tbh

    • @demonetization6596
      @demonetization6596 4 роки тому +7

      I am taking this next year and this does not help

    • @milkman2962
      @milkman2962 4 роки тому +16

      Add Maths for O levels are easy if u can remember the ways to solve it

    • @demonetization6596
      @demonetization6596 4 роки тому +1

      Weaboo Nation I can get 85 in my school,but my school standard is low

    • @jordanloo7361
      @jordanloo7361 4 роки тому +1

      E Math Huan was actually interesting and not brain dead okay.
      #2018EMath

  • @jason8923
    @jason8923 4 роки тому +353

    Student: I've studied for years and yay I am well prepared for the exam!
    PSLE: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @Jack-el7iv
      @Jack-el7iv 4 роки тому +27

      Student: *exists*
      Exams: i dont think so

    • @lavilovesz
      @lavilovesz 3 роки тому +7

      I'm about to have my psle In a next few weeks😭😭😭😭😭😭🔪👹

    • @ao-phantom6293
      @ao-phantom6293 3 роки тому +2

      @@lavilovesz same bruh

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs 3 роки тому +1

      @@lavilovesz same! it"s this coming Friday!

    • @memcake
      @memcake 3 роки тому +3

      @@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs its today 😭

  • @zav455
    @zav455 4 роки тому +101

    Half of the comment section is parents agreeing with this, other half is Sec 4s who just did their O levels complaing too

    • @ngthomas1609
      @ngthomas1609 4 роки тому +1

      And there is me here in the A level stream trying to help everybody out

    • @KironManuelCards
      @KironManuelCards 4 роки тому

      I knew a high level maths teacher whose daughter went nuts,I mean crazy.

    • @bruhbro1181
      @bruhbro1181 2 роки тому

      @@ngthomas1609 I took the exam myself in 2019 (current class of 25 3h2 xfme)

    • @ngthomas1609
      @ngthomas1609 2 роки тому

      @@bruhbro1181 Wow, really brings back memories.

  • @BryanTan
    @BryanTan 4 роки тому +247

    Siding with Dr Yeap on the idea of those tricky questions being deliberately designed to not closely resemble exercises seen before. If they are too similar to past problems, you only encourage students to recall fixed problem forms and their associated solving routines (aka "vomit out" whatever you crammed in mugging), but not actually test their mathematical/analytical skills by applying on new unseen problems.

    • @sadness3337
      @sadness3337 4 роки тому +9

      Sounds like U.S soldiers going into the Vietnam war

    • @CptGqM
      @CptGqM 4 роки тому +4

      @@sadness3337 Reminds me of Nazi Germany stepping onto Soviet soil(and snow).

    • @CryoSwordsman
      @CryoSwordsman Рік тому +6

      That in theory is very logically sound, however you are not considering the full picture.
      The singapore education system is built on the idea of a meritocracy where the elite league of students are granted with the most oppurtunities to pursue their education and career. The singapore education system demands a systematic and uniformed method for analysing a student's grasp on the syllabus and thus determining a student's potential. It is very unwise to test a question which it's execution of concept is very rarely examined and analysed in school into an important national exam such as PSLE. You shouldn't design questions such as these on the basis of "breaking associated solving routines" as they break the fundamentals of what the Students were taught and are thus giving all of them a grave disadvantage. These harder to grasp concepts should be discussed in the _classroom_ where innovative thinking and problem solving is encouraged and not durig PSLE with the student'a future education on the line.
      An examination should be a test of concept and the syllabus and not a "surprise" trap to scare the students and cause exam stress.

    • @jareddaigre4550
      @jareddaigre4550 Рік тому +1

      This sounds great in theory, but it reality, it is completely ridiculous. What you're describing is an IQ test, not a math test. If the exercise questions are model after real-world problems, then what's the problem of creating a test that trips the students up? Experience is a form of knowledge, and attempting to eliminate experience learning as a valid measurement of knowledge is absolutely ridiculous!

    • @sheldonpopesp
      @sheldonpopesp 9 місяців тому

      I thought it is meant to test knowledge lol giving something new in a test doesn't test knowledge at all

  • @charlie-tg4rw
    @charlie-tg4rw 4 роки тому +133

    I took the psle this year and
    at the egg tart math question, i was like
    ‘oh gosh, i like egg tarts, i want to eat one now’ 😂😂😂

    • @kay6254
      @kay6254 4 роки тому +3

      Gwen Villamor egg tart question was the one that was the hardest. Not the semi circle one

    • @charlie-tg4rw
      @charlie-tg4rw 4 роки тому +4

      Kate Yeow ye it was quite hard. Not to flex but i got it correct but the semi circle one i got wrong .-.

    • @ngthomas1609
      @ngthomas1609 4 роки тому +1

      Both the questions were easy! You just needed to understand the concept of the question and answer accordingly.

    • @cc-nb5fb
      @cc-nb5fb 4 роки тому

      yunzhen wu chill bro

    • @lcvlyjams
      @lcvlyjams 4 роки тому

      yunzhen wu I wouldn’t say it is easy but it’s possible to do , u just need to take ur time and study it properly

  • @LWL-sz5lh
    @LWL-sz5lh 4 роки тому +219

    9:25 "This qn is part of sec 1 syllabus"
    Clearly has never heard of "heuristics" before.

    • @ji4y.
      @ji4y. 4 роки тому +37

      besides they would never test u something out of ur syllabus,,they just make what you've learned tougher in a certain way

    • @ystoh133
      @ystoh133 4 роки тому +27

      Problem with students nowadays, even I myself admit being a final year uni student, that we often study for the sake of studying, eyeing only at the end result, and often flush off all knowledge once the papers are completed. Students are not applying the thought process as well as concepts taught, which is why they're finding it tough.
      Like what the last guy said, if you encountered a similar/same question in the exam, it's no longer considered a problem.

    • @jaytai4521
      @jaytai4521 4 роки тому +17

      he clearly stated that this was a "pattern problem" and clearly patterns were taught since p3/4.
      The objectives of the primary mathematics programme are to enable pupils to:
      • Develop understanding of mathematical concepts:
      • Numerical
      • Geometrical
      • Statistical
      • Algebraic
      • Recognise spatial relationships in two and three dimensions
      • Recognise patterns and relationships in mathematics
      it is even stated in the official curriculum recorded in black and white.

    • @pokiish
      @pokiish 4 роки тому +1

      AHA TRUE

    • @mastersnake2071
      @mastersnake2071 4 роки тому +1

      Wow patterns are sec 1

  • @voidnoidoid
    @voidnoidoid 4 роки тому +254

    The paper is fine lol the parents are just whiny

    • @shazar7782
      @shazar7782 4 роки тому +33

      Ikr,They will use any excuse if their Child did not do well.

    • @piccolo5725
      @piccolo5725 4 роки тому +7

      Ok boomer

    • @ryanwong8967
      @ryanwong8967 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah

    • @shazar7782
      @shazar7782 4 роки тому +7

      Bruh.........Lol I wish UA-cam allowed stickers now so I can use my ok boomer

    • @handsoap1097
      @handsoap1097 4 роки тому +13

      @@piccolo5725 you dont know what boomer means ur just following the trend

  • @ruiying3954
    @ruiying3954 4 роки тому +27

    Honestly, it's good that there are tough questions. Do we really want students to be regurgitating whatever they learnt in tuition? As for the patterns question, it wasn't too bad, just a step further from our typical exercise questions. After all, we do need something to set the kids apart. And I say this as a person who took the PSLE last year

  • @damsie64
    @damsie64 4 роки тому +71

    The semicircle and pattern one I just write nonsense

    • @shariena_0068
      @shariena_0068 4 роки тому +6

      Well , in my case , i kinda know the answer but im not sure , and i got it correct.

    • @rtrn_1369
      @rtrn_1369 4 роки тому +1

      Lovely Neko is the answer 36?

    • @shariena_0068
      @shariena_0068 4 роки тому

      @@rtrn_1369 Yeah.

    • @aloysius987
      @aloysius987 4 роки тому

      @@shariena_0068 @MrPandaBear Not bad that both of you who are half my age could have solved the question. I thought it was as easy as adding up everything and dividing by 2. But you actually need to do 22 - 12 = 10 then 10 + 10 + 16 = 36. Working backwards helped me find out the logic. :(

    • @sriraam4331
      @sriraam4331 4 роки тому

      The answer was 36
      Just simultaneous equation the whole thing ez game

  • @PhysicallySane.
    @PhysicallySane. 2 роки тому +27

    PSLE tackles one's "thinking out of the box" skills which makes it hard for students. In terms of solving, it's simple, but the questions in PSLE are tackling students visual aspects rather than just solving the question. Pattern questions are one of the good examples of literally thinking beyond what you can see and stuns you(not everyone) due to the unusual question that has never been attempted in practices, making it hard for students to solve them. However, with practice and dedication, which is the biggest hurdle for learning literally anything and the hardest to master, you can also shine like those who deemed to be a "genius".

  • @joan7204
    @joan7204 4 роки тому +37

    9:50 learn in secondary 1
    Me in sec 1: got learn meh

    • @straykids_8791
      @straykids_8791 3 роки тому

      you’ll only learn it in sec 1 math olympic i think

    • @aashesprod.34
      @aashesprod.34 3 роки тому

      Do they know what is heuristics or not?

    • @alvinmath
      @alvinmath 3 роки тому

      U learn nth terms tho

  • @benpei6452
    @benpei6452 4 роки тому +72

    This years PSLE is giving all the students stress

    • @owenlok2325
      @owenlok2325 4 роки тому +13

      It's all major exams...

    • @benpei6452
      @benpei6452 4 роки тому

      @@owenlok2325 hahahahaha true thoo...

    • @phantasmagorical5040
      @phantasmagorical5040 4 роки тому

      Disagree

    • @phantasmagorical5040
      @phantasmagorical5040 4 роки тому +1

      If students had prepared sufficiently and thought outside the box, it would be easy. I took it this year

    • @fortnitemamba1912
      @fortnitemamba1912 4 роки тому

      I surprisingly got an A for this years math PSLE test

  • @chandar6214
    @chandar6214 4 роки тому +78

    Think about it, there are only max 1-2 hard questions that’s require out of the box thinking, this is to separate the smart from the smarter students. The other questions are usually well practiced before-hand. Furthermore, even if it is true that a certain question is really difficult, the psle scoring system works in a way where your marks are pit against other pupil’s marks around Singapore, which means that no matter how tough questions are, your marks depend on how you perform as compared to your peers. Parents need to understand how the t-score system works and why papers must have varying difficulty levels.

    • @vivienlee1671
      @vivienlee1671 3 роки тому

      i agree!

    • @Alpha-kt4yl
      @Alpha-kt4yl 3 роки тому

      I would agree, if not for the fact that schools do not teach students how to think out of the box. I believe it is unfair to spend so much time training students for an exam, that many consider crucial, just to ask questions that you did not prepare them for.
      I am not asking for students to be prepped on every single possible question, I ask that if the test is going to test out of the box thinking then we should teach students to do that.

    • @CalciumCapybara
      @CalciumCapybara 2 роки тому

      I would definitely agree with this statement. However, the PSLE score system has changed...

  • @albertongoogle
    @albertongoogle 4 роки тому +51

    The adults tested suck at math :p I think those question are ok if they represent the hardest questions on the test. But parents should not be forced to send kids to extra tuition. If these tough questions are to be in the exam, it should be taught in school. If the teacher cannot teach it, perhaps the teacher or curriculum should be reviewed first.

    • @buzzyz7234
      @buzzyz7234 4 роки тому +2

      My math teacher told my class that they have taught us the Concept of the questions so we just need to apply it. But I think that it relies more on common sense.

    • @ItsRaining12345
      @ItsRaining12345 4 роки тому

      Agree

    • @owenlok2325
      @owenlok2325 4 роки тому +4

      The questions rely on common sense but we are scrambling to find something teachers have taught

    • @murch62
      @murch62 4 роки тому +1

      You think our math teacher time traveler meh? You’re studying a higher standard ofc you would think this type of question is easy.

    • @NHWK
      @NHWK 4 роки тому +1

      They literally tested a surgeon bruh

  • @alvachan88
    @alvachan88 4 роки тому +9

    8:58 since no one has pointed this out, i shall.
    If any person, student or not, can solve part b which requires knowing how to find an arithmetic sum (apart from brute force), how does part c require a more advanced concept? It's just converting a fraction to percentage form.

    • @AwesomeStoryTime1
      @AwesomeStoryTime1 3 роки тому

      ya part C is so easy lol

    • @alvachan88
      @alvachan88 3 роки тому +1

      @@AwesomeStoryTime1
      not sure if you are trolling or need help so here goes. part c isn't easy on its own but if a person has the skill to solve part b, they can use the same skill to solve part c. the only other non-skill required is conversion as stated in my previous comment.

    • @kehloveclock
      @kehloveclock Рік тому

      Part b can be solved using 250*250
      Part c requires either arithmetic series formula or difference between white and grey
      They are not the same concept

  • @shdbbdnd
    @shdbbdnd 4 роки тому +68

    If they made the paper easy, everyone will do well and there is no point in exams....if they make it tougher with hard qns, the exceptional students can be picked out...i think all the parents should rethink about this....i took the papers before and they had tough qns as well....its not like their entire life is ruined just by that one qn

    • @sakthimohan9242
      @sakthimohan9242 3 роки тому +2

      So why is O-levels so easy ?

    • @sweet813one
      @sweet813one 3 роки тому +2

      Thats why the tougher questions are lower in quantity

    • @N____er
      @N____er 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, but the tougher questions are lesser in quantity but the marks are like 5 marks and if you have like even 4 questions of these wrong thats almost 20 marks lost (assuming all 4 questions are 5 marks, but maybe 1 or 2 may be 4 marks), which is quite quite a lot

    • @beezlebub9
      @beezlebub9 2 роки тому +1

      @@N____er precisely. Imagine not being able to do half or more than half of Section C questions.

    • @masteroogway2377
      @masteroogway2377 2 роки тому

      You can learn everything with textbooks. So why the schools?

  • @circustoyourclown2937
    @circustoyourclown2937 4 роки тому +29

    me who anyhow do the last second question but got correct
    Me: *laughs in luckiness*

    • @shreinlu
      @shreinlu 4 роки тому

      Swag YanJ same, it was easier than the other questions infront

  • @Cedric-wk5yt
    @Cedric-wk5yt 4 роки тому +55

    at this point singapore media just milking ppl complaining abt psle, this looks like they copy paste from kiasu parents and put on nice slideshow xd

  • @ChengXinJin
    @ChengXinJin 4 роки тому +30

    This is hilarious especially when parents think they are qualified to decide if questions are difficult. I'm sure most would not be able to do a PSLE Science or Mother Tongue paper. Leave it to the experts and teach your kids to deal with disappointment. Its just PSLE. A small part of their life.

  • @ascepts4808
    @ascepts4808 4 роки тому +16

    Ngl the area triangle one and ribbons one was pretty ez lmao

  • @osasinator7583
    @osasinator7583 4 роки тому +12

    Imo the psle paper is to differentiate the students between the streams so even if you do not fare that well for psle you could still do well in the future if you try hard enough.

  • @loveit347
    @loveit347 4 роки тому +9

    The real question is: do spending on expensive tuition and stressing students with tight schedule even helpful, when hardest questions are so "daily day basis"?

    • @sadness3337
      @sadness3337 4 роки тому

      The answer: it's called slavery

    • @fezmelon2234
      @fezmelon2234 4 роки тому

      I feel like, yes, it does help to have tuition to *SOME* extent, but if it is too frequent or the parents put too much stress on them, then the students will most definitely do worse than they could have.

  • @zoolz1186
    @zoolz1186 4 роки тому +25

    Tbh these questions for me i think are designed for multiole different reasons.Since Many parents prepare their sons/daughters for PSLE that if the questions are not challenging most would score well.Thus i think that they are designed to differianciate between students who can/cannot think outside of the box

  • @markleong4667
    @markleong4667 4 роки тому +8

    I knew how to solve those questions mentioned in the program cos i learned what my kid learned in the past few yrs. she got A for her maths in this yr’s PSLE. 19:05 is the essence of what one can learn and practice to solve many primary school maths questions today. It’s simple but very powerful. Incidentally, my interest in UML may hv help me to visualise how an application works and designed to work and more depending on which role one is holding in a IT project.

  • @popoio3
    @popoio3 4 роки тому +14

    PISA 2019.
    China > Singapore now = more stress on future students.

    • @tocrob
      @tocrob 4 роки тому +4

      China's four "provinces" are not nearly as representative as Singapore's. Better access to better pre-schools (happening now) will reduce that future stress.

    • @sadness3337
      @sadness3337 4 роки тому

      And censoring all the bad stuff about themselves

    • @dinoT_T
      @dinoT_T 4 роки тому +1

      @@sadness3337 does any countries not do that? :)

  • @priyavicky3401
    @priyavicky3401 3 роки тому +8

    Steve is the best host ever. He really does have good energy and speaks very well.

  • @Ukiringo1991
    @Ukiringo1991 4 роки тому +3

    I think the answer for the ribbon question is as follow.
    25m * 100=2500cm
    2500/110= Max amt of ribbon per roll (round down)
    200/max amt of ribbon per roll = answer (round up)
    I am curious how the semi circles can be solved. And the rectangle questions seems like a secondary school question.

    • @lynlemon8709
      @lynlemon8709 4 роки тому

      answer for ribbon question is 10.
      give me some time to remember the circle questions yet again please 😓

    • @lynlemon8709
      @lynlemon8709 4 роки тому

      for the semi circle:
      reference for the images.app.goo.gl/dDLqb76AXCFmjqnbA
      look at first two semicircles from the left
      take 22cm - 12cm =10cm
      this is possible as they are all identical semicircles, meaning they have the same diameters. the part where the first two semis. overlap are equal. this means that the part of the second semi which is not overlapped by the first one is 22cm. take 12cm away from that 22cm and you find the length of the non-overlapped part; which is 10cm.
      move on to the third semi and see that the middle non-overlapped part is labeled 16cm. this also means that the other two sides that are overlapped are equal.
      from the first equation where we got 10cm, the first overlapped part is 10cm, and the second one is also 10cm. add 16cm and the two 10cms and you get 36cm which is the final answer. my explanation may not be the best, so i recommend to go on youtube and just run a search of a more detailed solution by a professional. :)

    • @samegawa_sharkskin
      @samegawa_sharkskin 4 роки тому

      rectangle questions?

  • @user-ph5eb2tz9z
    @user-ph5eb2tz9z 2 роки тому +7

    When i did psle in 2019, i got my A star. I felt that all the questions were easy. But now that im sec 3 and i try them again, they are much more confusing. I just became more stupid

  • @sus-tl8vw
    @sus-tl8vw Рік тому +4

    imagine if those we're only level 1-2 questions, imagine doing a level 3-4 question 💀

  • @avanimoye1848
    @avanimoye1848 3 роки тому +5

    I took the psle with the semi circle and the number pattern question and I think that although it was hard, the rest of the paper was what was taught in school. Plus the parent who said it was secondary 1 syllabus clearly hasn’t seem the updated syllabuses. The fact that parents are making such a big deal of probably 2-3 question which are there as higher order thinking questions is honestly baffling. Of course if a child goes home crying about the paper, the parent is going to be angry but they can’t expect their child to never face disappointment. Also, i honestly don’t think parents are in the position of deciding whether a question is hard or not, if their child can’t do it then of course it will be ‘hard’. Also, the moment they go to secondary school, anything related to psle becomes redundant, so like it honestly doesnt matter if a student doesn’t know how to do a couple of question.

  • @hugoyang6641
    @hugoyang6641 2 роки тому +2

    I will be taking the PSLE this year, and this video absolutely makes my blood boil. I don't see how this is to "assess our ability" to place us in an appropriate secondary school - I only see this as a challenge to our mental health. I have had many sleepless nights this year, sacrificing every hour just to cram all the "necessary" knowledge into my mind. If adults can't solve it, why let teenagers solve it? Completely unreasonable. Has the Government responded to the public's complaints? Absolutely not. Starting from the 2012 PSLE Math Paper to the 2019 PSLE Math Paper, more questions are becoming more mentally demanding and have higher thinking order. I also feel that the AL System is extremely unfair. The lower mark band having a higher range? All I see is the Ministry focusing only on the top students and leaving the average students out. All students should be receiving equal and fair treatment. I grew up in Singapore thinking that we have equality in every part of our country. Starting from the Education system, I have lost all faith for my future here. Examinations are getting increasingly more difficult every year, and I don't see how this is necessary at all. I definitely agree that having 1 or 2 difficult questions would be necessary as a slight challenge, but the final grading process isn't fair to all pupils. I hope that in the coming years the education system would be further improved. 😔

    • @wangterry475
      @wangterry475 2 роки тому +1

      Bro this is so relatable my parents don’t know how many times I was crying to sleep because of stress

    • @wangterry475
      @wangterry475 2 роки тому

      This year I already fucked up my CL oral and all of EL; now I’m preparing to fail my maths

    • @sunny-143
      @sunny-143 2 роки тому

      FRFR I AGREE WITH THIS SO MUCH

  • @limhocksiew8501
    @limhocksiew8501 4 роки тому +14

    If the exams now are becoming harder.Imagine the future where P6 students take exams with the same difficulty as O level paper. -P6 student

    • @peachcat2812
      @peachcat2812 4 роки тому +5

      don worry psle 2020 was ez

    • @yoho6804
      @yoho6804 3 роки тому

      @@peachcat2812 ya a lot easier than 2019

    • @masummiah5945
      @masummiah5945 3 роки тому

      i am taking psle next year

    • @jarryllim343
      @jarryllim343 3 роки тому

      @@yoho6804 lucky. 2021 was painfully hard in the range of questions 11-16 P2.

    • @goldverylameisback550
      @goldverylameisback550 2 роки тому

      i hope i get a 16 or better for psle

  • @limbokhenglimbokheng5032
    @limbokhenglimbokheng5032 4 роки тому +6

    For the question regarding to the triangle question, I found it pretty challenging. It may requires the knowledge of sequence and series to solve the question. Others I could not comment too much as each person has different abilities. It would be an advantage for those who have been exposed to higher level mathematics.

    • @elfase2181
      @elfase2181 4 роки тому +1

      It's not challenging. You've been Thot to find a formula to solve pattern qns since P4. Most parents just dk heuristics are taught so they find it tough. Rlly tho, that's a giveaway qn. 5 marks at that.

    • @Ugh99
      @Ugh99 2 роки тому

      Ikr, as someone who took psle this year, all questions are manageable. However, it is the time constraint and pressure that makes PSLE a hard test.

  • @deathmessiah7273
    @deathmessiah7273 4 роки тому +44

    3:38 OMG!! They cried over question like this?? I remembered i smiled and laughed doing my PSLE Maths.

    • @derraumdeuter2109
      @derraumdeuter2109 4 роки тому +1

      Lol same. So ur sec 2 now right

    • @Matt-vv8js
      @Matt-vv8js 4 роки тому

      Enjoy the holidays guys

    • @dariuslee6983
      @dariuslee6983 4 роки тому +3

      @Non Non simi lj

    • @dariuslee6983
      @dariuslee6983 4 роки тому

      @Non Non again 🤣🤦‍♂️

    • @_reqqz_
      @_reqqz_ 4 роки тому +3

      Omg ikr psle math is so simple i wanna go back to p6 the moment i started sec sch i kept getting D7 or C6 for math and when i get C5 i would litterally jump in joy

  • @baconpancakes8899
    @baconpancakes8899 4 роки тому +27

    I think algebra should be easier than using the bar model.

    • @gifantheorys998
      @gifantheorys998 4 роки тому +1

      definitely, especially for the circle's question

    • @flmkrp2486
      @flmkrp2486 3 роки тому

      the fact that they dont teach algebra to primary school students made the last 2 questions so hard. I managed to solve the circle questions last minute by using logic but didnt manage to complete the sequence question

  • @HQR000
    @HQR000 4 роки тому +16

    I dont think kids would feel as bad about not being able to do tough questions if parents werent so competitive and put so much pressure on their kids. Sometimes its not the issue of the system, but the parents of the children themselves and the way they react to it. Exams are meant to have questions with a range of difficultly, if everyone got a perfect score theres no point in having exams at all really.

  • @julianne7133
    @julianne7133 3 роки тому +4

    Whenever I find math easy I always get careless mistakes and do badly but when I find the paper difficult I do relatively well

  • @Lazaruszzz
    @Lazaruszzz 4 роки тому +12

    Tbh compared to Sec schools, psle math papers are too easy

    • @damnfreakingsien
      @damnfreakingsien 4 роки тому +4

      KaguyaLaz YOU DONT SAY
      Compared to As, sec sch is too easy.
      I took my psle a decade ago when we were the first batch to be tested with calculators. I was well prepared.
      But the questions were such a shock that I broke down.

  • @twirlingtulles
    @twirlingtulles 3 роки тому +4

    This video would have been made more complete if they interviewed MOE, the Minister for Education and an actual person who set the PSLE exam. MOE should also provide figures on the numbers of As, Bs, Cs and Ds received for the maths papers and how that translates into a more skilled workforce vis-a-vis counterparts from other developed nations. Right now they only got remarks from people on the sidelines profiting from the difficult papers.

    • @beezlebub9
      @beezlebub9 2 роки тому

      Surprised that this comment got so upvotes.

  • @dindings
    @dindings 4 роки тому +4

    You guys should try the European competences, the guidelines are aimed to improve student's life and competences so they can improve and keep learning. The best one is called Learn to Learn where it looks for the student's own personal growth

    • @sadness3337
      @sadness3337 4 роки тому

      Especially Finland

    • @dindings
      @dindings 4 роки тому

      @@sadness3337 its a common regulatory policy that every school across the EU should follow, it's a loosely held legislation, but it does the trick. In certain countries it's not enough but it's aimed not only to raise perfect A students but also students that know how to balance work and personal

  • @CryzVoid
    @CryzVoid 4 роки тому +3

    literally the jump of math syllabus from p6 to sec 1 is quite weird. alot of the p6 syllabus you learn you dont apply to sec 1 maths. sec 1 maths is literally algebra and algebra.

    • @sweet813one
      @sweet813one 3 роки тому

      Me in sec 2: laughs in 6/7 chapters involving algebra

  • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
    @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 4 роки тому +21

    Dear students who are studying:
    I am a mathematics and pure science student in my O levels in 2018.
    No I was not smart, I was very close to failing English, took foundation chinese, failed social studies
    What I have learnt while in secondary school is a few important things:
    1) it's ok if you didn't do well. My psle was a 200, and PSLE was 20. Slightly lower than average (I think). I am taking nursing in polytechnic. Struggling with a little of studying, but manageable.
    2) always find a different perspective rather than solving. Finding a different perspective would be easier to solve the question (may take 3-4 minutes longer for the huge questions) but it is better than not solving at all.
    For the circle question, if you draw 2 straight lines down they are both the same length and you can solve from there

    • @kay6254
      @kay6254 4 роки тому

      NorthernStal The famously unknown penguin the semi circle question isn’t that hard.
      3 semi circles+24=2 semi circles+16+44
      1 semi circle= 16+44-24=36
      1 circle =36x2=72

  • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
    @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 4 роки тому +3

    1:57 would be a "easy" secondary 1/2 simultaneous equation
    If you substitute the diameter of the circle for X then solving would be pretty easy, but I am not sure if PSLE students know this, anyone can confirm? I took O levels last year so I'm not familiar with PSLE now.

    • @lea2467
      @lea2467 3 роки тому

      For me, I just used shifting to take 22 to subtract 12. The answer multiply by 2 and added to 16 will be the diameter

  • @immahappygurl
    @immahappygurl 4 роки тому +3

    a few difficult questions within a paper is definitely necessary to differentiate students who can think more critically than others. rather than difficult questions, i feel like the increasing number of mental health issues among the younger generation is more often caused by how people, especially parents, view psle and how the notion of psle being able to determine one's life is instilled in children from a young age. a question or two that can throw students off is very reasonable to test them on whether they are able to apply concepts correctly instead of simply regurgitating. therefore, rather than having simpler papers, i think the way to go about solving the problem of increasing mental health issues among the young is to try to eradicate elitist mindsets and to change the way academic success is viewed in our society.

  • @postman00100
    @postman00100 4 роки тому +3

    The MOE educators are too ego and want to show others that how good they are on setting questions.
    But reality, they did not follow their job scope, doing out of curriculum. Its very problematic when they did had done a bad job and still giving poor excuses after parents complaints. Its too shameful that they are not condemned and sacked but these problems continuously plaque the society. The worst, MOE still ask everyone to less focus on studying too hard but in reality resulted differently.
    Nowadays, tuition centers and tutors take these chances to con more parents to their money making campaign advertisements. These conman will show you how to solve (after they secretly took days to think) But if you let them do it within a frame time of a shocking question, they also caught with their pants down.
    Telling parents to sort those smart outs are a very lame answer. It showed how low respect and IQ person to give such an answer.

  • @okawari5431
    @okawari5431 4 роки тому +10

    I'm taking PSLE this year (2020) and have done many of these past year papers. Tbh, I felt that those so called 'hard' questions were actually pretty easy.

  • @thinkpadx60
    @thinkpadx60 3 роки тому +2

    this brought back so many memories. I like the way the last person spoke about not drilling mathematics but visualising it.

  • @Spideyboy1294
    @Spideyboy1294 4 роки тому +9

    Wow the 12 years old Ian is my classmate lol

  • @cbmajor6017
    @cbmajor6017 4 роки тому +1

    1:53 I was bored so I solved it
    Let the diameter of the circle be x and set an expression for the length of the line for both sides:
    x+12+x+12+x
    22+x+16+x+22
    Since they share the same line, we can set them equal to each other:
    x+12+x+12+x=22+x+16+x+22
    12+12+x=22+16+22
    24+x=60
    x=36
    The diameter of the circle is 36
    If I did something wrong, sorry!

    • @elfase2181
      @elfase2181 4 роки тому +1

      Welp I used guess and check cuz I couldn't observe a thing...

    • @哆啦哆啦梦
      @哆啦哆啦梦 4 роки тому

      You're correct

  • @Ng-nv9to
    @Ng-nv9to 4 роки тому +4

    Regarding the indian claiming unfair. Epiphany moment: Since when was life ever fair? Suck it up and make the best out of your current situation.

  • @ariexiro573
    @ariexiro573 2 роки тому +1

    Don't forget the Helen and Ivan question in 2021 🤧

  • @andysixxx1263
    @andysixxx1263 4 роки тому +11

    3:53 an adult stunned over this ?? you’ve gotta be kidding me

    • @cursebr2937
      @cursebr2937 4 роки тому +5

      andy sixxx no the English phrasing is wrong that’s why stumped

    • @gregoriysharapov1936
      @gregoriysharapov1936 4 роки тому

      Looks like basic English honestly. Probably was confuses them is the 110 cm and 25m. Probably didn't see the unit. Idk.

    • @ellenma6002
      @ellenma6002 4 роки тому

      @@gregoriysharapov1936 Nah, it may be because they did not know if the left over ribbon could be sewn together and used or be discarded.

    • @cheerlin
      @cheerlin 3 роки тому

      Adult will buy based on budget available only haha

  • @felix5981
    @felix5981 2 роки тому +2

    Well then, do you want every child to just breeze through the exam without having to think? Those hard questions are to sieve out the gifted students in maths. They have to be difficult so students are not just regurgitating everything they've been taught and actually think and analyse through the question

  • @elmo431
    @elmo431 4 роки тому +8

    14:24 you haven't paid yet

  • @rattamytata1970
    @rattamytata1970 3 роки тому +1

    That semicircle diameter question is really interesting, but probably not a question to put at the end of the paper. The students are probably expecting it to be a circle question but it's actually an algebra question, and since you don't get much experience with what an algebra question can be in primary schools, it seems too punishing. They may get stuck and lose too much time.

    • @kehloveclock
      @kehloveclock Рік тому

      It isn’t algebra .
      Yes , one of the methods is algebra ,
      But there is a geometrical property that can be used to solve the question without algebra

  • @IAmMrNg
    @IAmMrNg 4 роки тому +6

    PSLE Math: cry over the one question you can’t solve
    O/A Level Math: must get A1/A
    Most NUS math mods: can do half of the paper I happy liao

    • @dt4654
      @dt4654 4 роки тому +1

      the 3rd was me when I had to do actual math for my ite course 😂 by that point, can do even a fraction, can liao

  • @cometchaser847
    @cometchaser847 3 роки тому +1

    Part of the cohort of 2021. This is the PSLE Math day. I solved all of the 2019 questions with ease (the pattern one is easy if you know about triangle numbers, the gray ones are even triangle numbers. Fig. 2= Triangle№2, Fig. 3= Triangle №2, Fig. 4= Triangle №4, etc.
    Then Q15 pops up. I did it like this:
    Finds mass of total coin (if all is 50¢) (in grams)
    Divides by 2.7 for no reason.
    GETS A WHOLE NUMBER! (this usually means you are correct, in my experience when I get a decimal I made a mistake somewhere)
    Gets Helen, and $20.
    Checks and realises it is wrong.
    Does Q16 and 17 first.
    Goes back and gets into a giant loop of random simultaneous equations.
    Gives up, knowing that my correct answers on the other questions will give me AL2 anyway.
    Also if you use algebra most of the hard questions suddenly become extremely easy. That's what I did. The semicircle one can be solved with simultaneous.
    So, learning slightly higher than your level is good.

  • @19yingluo51
    @19yingluo51 4 роки тому +5

    22:28 !!

  • @joshuakurian4827
    @joshuakurian4827 4 роки тому +1

    It's quite difficult if many PSLE questions wind up on the mindyourdecisions channel, which is by no means a math channel for those who are just trying to keep up with their primary school work.

  • @user-wc9pf1ff8y
    @user-wc9pf1ff8y 4 роки тому +3

    maybe because im past the psle age so i really dont know how to gauge the paper using a 12yo's standard, but the questions shown on this video was solveable for me?

  • @JesusLovesHisCreations
    @JesusLovesHisCreations 3 роки тому

    Read the question carefully and it’s not difficult at all, most of them don’t read the question and straight jump into trying to find the answer by looking at the pic only....
    Q4) Since the semi circles are the same, hence let D=diameter of all 5 semi circles
    3D+12+12(top)=2D+22+16+22(bottom)
    3D+24=2D+60
    3D-2D=60-24
    D=36

  • @ZephySeffeh
    @ZephySeffeh 4 роки тому +5

    Honestly, this is totally blown out of proportion by parents. There will always be a few complex questions in every tier of Singapore's exams.

  • @Ruben2827y
    @Ruben2827y 4 роки тому +6

    Me when i see psle math questions:
    ☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️

  • @dylanangya2656
    @dylanangya2656 4 роки тому +3

    I don’t think it was hard because other than the last and second last question, the rest was very easy

  • @donnyyen6484
    @donnyyen6484 3 роки тому +1

    What's the point of all of this.. If end of the day cannot get a Job in our own country.. And have to compete with foreigners from malaysia Philippines and India.. What a joke

  • @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735
    @jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 4 роки тому +4

    Dear parents:
    Most of the mathematics questions are very real life related. I would suggest it would be much easier to see in a better perspective if the parents were to demonstrate a little bit

  • @bhavyamudgal3087
    @bhavyamudgal3087 3 роки тому +1

    The answer of the semicircle question is 36 cm
    i.e. Diameter of every semicircle = 36 cm

  • @yvysz
    @yvysz 4 роки тому +7

    i passed the psle maths HAHAH i’m so proud of myself

  • @jiro7077
    @jiro7077 3 роки тому +2

    2019 psle is hard
    2021 psle, u see students crying at mrt stations and buss stops, both paper 1 and 2 hard, even i whole scored highest in class for prelims felt it was hard. I only managed to complete it 2 mins before the end timing, moe and seab needs to reduce the difficulty for psle especially when we have covid pandemic affecting us a lot this year.

  • @takebackthenight4390
    @takebackthenight4390 4 роки тому +13

    PSLE math is way harder than O level math...

    • @moonylanatm_
      @moonylanatm_ 4 роки тому

      takebackthenight ikr like u most likely not gonna use the knowledge in secondary school and it’s true u might most likely won’t use it in life when u turn adult only some of them

    • @buzzyz7234
      @buzzyz7234 4 роки тому

      And that's why I rant all the time... Why must we learn this kind if shit when 90% of the time it is not applied to our daily lives.

    • @kitkat8986
      @kitkat8986 4 роки тому

      What a joke, if u take a maths in secondary school of course the regular e math will seem easy. Psle so damn easy

  • @eganmchan
    @eganmchan 4 роки тому +2

    I took the PSLE math paper this year and got an A* for it... I wasn't that good at math tho... Got an average of 75-85 for P5-6 period and I didn't go for tuition at all. I didn't find it as difficult as other make it look like. Plus, the past year math questions that he said made people "stumped" wasn't even that difficult... If people are making such a big commotion about an exam paper in Primary school then how can they cope with the ones to come like O levels when that is much more difficult. I get that some arent as gifted as other and people are complaining that it's unfair for the ones that are not as gifted as others but this is a way for them to tell which students are at the top. As a student, I think that some parents are putting a high amount of pressure on their kids and when they are too pressured, they will always think the didn't do well enough and their parents will scold them. They should really just support their child instead of nagging at them all the time and keep giving them too much test papers but sufficient papers instead.

    • @erikas.4431
      @erikas.4431 4 роки тому

      Once your in secondary school and you look back at these qns. It's not that bad. Yeah secondary math is harder than psle

    • @Yerinjibbang
      @Yerinjibbang 4 роки тому

      holy crap you're 12? dang you seem smart

  • @dt4654
    @dt4654 4 роки тому +7

    hahahaha...wait until they have to do their O or N levels 😂 that one is going to get harder every year also.

  • @Sadlaxy
    @Sadlaxy 4 роки тому +1

    Watching this reminds me of how I screwed up my paper. It wasn't difficult, it was really simple, I just couldn't find the method.

    • @Allahummabaarik
      @Allahummabaarik 2 роки тому

      It's ok. You can be good in other things. Not only in Mathematics.

  • @kfobsgw
    @kfobsgw 4 роки тому +5

    now for my PSLE I hope I get at least an A now XD

  • @sylviazhu1807
    @sylviazhu1807 3 роки тому +1

    3:36 i clearly remember this question when im doing my psle in 2017

  • @gisellez9250
    @gisellez9250 4 роки тому +11

    Honestly the paper was fine 🤷‍♀️ , I took it this year

    • @2d_09_kirsteny6
      @2d_09_kirsteny6 4 роки тому

      It was average honestly:/ I got a B for math n I’m quite satisfied lol

    • @lucientan7166
      @lucientan7166 4 роки тому

      Ikr I got full marks

    • @lucientan7166
      @lucientan7166 4 роки тому +1

      Ryan Poon They will specifically tell you

    • @2d_09_kirsteny6
      @2d_09_kirsteny6 4 роки тому

      I Guess?

    • @rach0325
      @rach0325 4 роки тому

      @@lucientan7166 no they wont. u need to pay like 50 dollars just for another person to read ur paper and they probably told u that u got all correct.

  • @alienpanda_5043
    @alienpanda_5043 4 роки тому +2

    its fine not so hard paper 2 abit hard for like 2 questions but overall its abit easy

    • @kay6254
      @kay6254 4 роки тому

      chickens daniella ya. My mother ask me try the question for next year and the egg tart question is me just half guessing half actually knowing how to do. But the pattern question part c killed me. The semi circle question is quite easy, use simultaneous equation can solve already.

    • @alienpanda_5043
      @alienpanda_5043 4 роки тому

      Kate Yeow haha

  • @damsie64
    @damsie64 4 роки тому +17

    2:45
    After math paper
    Me: Okay fail liao gg 🙄
    When collecting results
    Me: B? Yey 😎😚

  • @yiting7456
    @yiting7456 4 роки тому +1

    honestly, is math THAT important? english and mt languages seems more important. I hate how PSLE puts so much emphasis on math,while A levels and O levels put a lot of emphasis on english. like......what????

  • @stanjenostantalent156
    @stanjenostantalent156 4 роки тому +3

    Wait what's so difficult about the question at 3:47? Isnt it pretty straightforward?

    • @kenthaha
      @kenthaha 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly. I think CNA has nothing else to report 😂

    • @ashygfriend6784
      @ashygfriend6784 4 роки тому +2

      @@syedn1845
      You got 25m (aka 2500cm) rolls.
      You need 110cm ribbons, so excess is ignored
      (assuming you cannot tie together all the excess bits from each roll to form additional 110cm ribbons),
      2500cm/110cm = 22 (round down to nearest whole no.)
      >>>>Each 25m roll, you get 22 110cm ribbons.
      You need 200 of these 110cm ribbons, can be more than 200 but not less than 200,
      200/22= 10 (round up to nearest whole no.)

    • @jaimeeyeoh5218
      @jaimeeyeoh5218 4 роки тому

      yeah ikr

    • @RetardskillMe
      @RetardskillMe 4 роки тому

      @@ashygfriend6784 Yes, exactly.

    • @kenthaha
      @kenthaha 4 роки тому

      Simone Aw @ashygfriend is correct. Even primary 6 knows it. Oops 🙊

  • @suzanneho4470
    @suzanneho4470 3 роки тому +1

    Hahaha....sounds like a yearly refrain as my daughter took her PSLE this year and a different group of parents with the same issue. But the difference this year is a new school placement scoring system, hope some consideration can be taken to accommodate this.

  • @joshualow5547
    @joshualow5547 4 роки тому +5

    I got a B for the 2019 PSLE math

    • @yachinno
      @yachinno 4 роки тому

      I got an E kiddo...mind you I took PSLE in 2015....

    • @joshualow5547
      @joshualow5547 4 роки тому

      ヤスミン oh I had to do that one as revision I got an A

    • @yachinno
      @yachinno 4 роки тому

      @@joshualow5547 Good job! I honestly suck at math...and now I will be waiting for my GCE N lvl results lol.

    • @memehub4287
      @memehub4287 3 роки тому

      Senior I got B for everything and got 197, my mother nag at me to na to St. Andrews

  • @jadechang9556
    @jadechang9556 4 роки тому +1

    That’s right, PSLE is just a stepping stone kids, your future is still bright even if PSLE didn’t go as you wanted it to go !!! :)

  • @cantcube7569
    @cantcube7569 4 роки тому +3

    I did the paper it’s not really that hard it was moderate and it seemed pretty fair for me

  • @resonation3114
    @resonation3114 4 роки тому +1

    Science is probably going to be in the news this year and not Math.

  • @prata6938
    @prata6938 4 роки тому +11

    the kids who cry over the paper r probably the ones who “if i don’t get full marks i’m not good enough”

  • @AnimeLord512
    @AnimeLord512 3 роки тому +2

    3:36 That was the question ALL of my classmates were arguing about after the exam. I didn't think it was such a big deal... but it ended being in this video. Still got A* for the paper though😌

  • @unown293
    @unown293 4 роки тому +5

    2015: coin question
    2017: ribbon question
    2019: semicircle question
    2016 and 2018: no controversial question
    so 2020’s paper *may* not be that bad

    • @jasper8368
      @jasper8368 4 роки тому

      Phew lucky I took PSLE in 2018

    • @Frederick-765
      @Frederick-765 3 роки тому

      nah I took 2019 paper... the semicircle question was easy lol, nobody complained about the paper, only the parents did

    • @harumi_rumi
      @harumi_rumi 2 роки тому

      2021: Helen and Ivan question
      2022: *oh god lets just see what happens*
      (Btw im taking the 2022 psle wish me good luck! 😨)

  • @memehub4287
    @memehub4287 3 роки тому +1

    When u kena 197 for psle cuz this year sci and Ma questions damn hard

    • @celxy
      @celxy 3 роки тому

      Pol

    • @celxy
      @celxy 3 роки тому

      Ikr

    • @znn773
      @znn773 3 роки тому

      i thought science was hard but i scored a*
      and when i thought i would a* chinese i didnt and my fourth a* just got brutally robbed from me like that

  • @izlshf5879
    @izlshf5879 4 роки тому +5

    Who got A*??🙋‍♂️

    • @azhoo
      @azhoo 4 роки тому

      No. I'm stupid so I don't get A*

    • @deathstorm5371
      @deathstorm5371 4 роки тому

      I got A* for 2019 PSLE for Maths

    • @CommanderCrocky
      @CommanderCrocky 4 роки тому

      Im stupid and I got C but still can go sec

  • @cadtoo
    @cadtoo 3 роки тому +1

    Psle 2021 be like:
    Let me take the crown of hardest PSLE Math Paper lol

  • @mesmeriseee
    @mesmeriseee 4 роки тому +3

    lol those kids cant solve cos they not meant for express stream what, cmi say cmi la. Not like dont have kids scoring 240 above liddat lmao

  • @shreyasclg9539
    @shreyasclg9539 2 роки тому +1

    Helen and Ivan the most cursed names in the entire psle maths history

  • @parrygoh8369
    @parrygoh8369 4 роки тому +3

    PSLE is not even hard at all is the students problems if they don't want to know basics knowledge

    • @anaqidanish24
      @anaqidanish24 4 роки тому

      Dont be arragont...these are based on satistics, and not your opinion... your opinion means nothing... juat shut ur mouth

    • @moonylanatm_
      @moonylanatm_ 4 роки тому

      XuanDa Goh u rlly believe what some Teachers say like they said it’s easy u just have to know ur basic knowledge the questions technically confuse u and tell u is not that even if u know them the exam paper might make u don’t ...

    • @parrygoh8369
      @parrygoh8369 4 роки тому

      @@moonylanatm_ is how u read the qn and if u don't understand the qn means u have not been studying and listening in class or what even

    • @moonylanatm_
      @moonylanatm_ 4 роки тому

      XuanDa Goh lmao if someone study so hard and also listen in class so hard and they fail what would u think it’s wrong and they did whatever u said

    • @parrygoh8369
      @parrygoh8369 4 роки тому

      @@moonylanatm_ then there is something wrong n uhave to find out urself

  • @ohyeahyeah9571
    @ohyeahyeah9571 4 роки тому +2

    The only thing difficult is A level. Psle and Olevel can last minute. a level last minute = GG

    • @abiramthirunarayanan7076
      @abiramthirunarayanan7076 4 роки тому

      Who said that!

    • @dt4654
      @dt4654 4 роки тому

      for me who didn't particularly do well in school, N levels were enough to kill me ☠️

  • @kingtheconflagration1551
    @kingtheconflagration1551 4 роки тому +3

    I feel Lucky that I got an A for this year

  • @ry4n929
    @ry4n929 3 роки тому +2

    Student: i think I’m ready for PSLE I’m going to do well!!
    PSLE: and i took that personally

  • @faaris7915
    @faaris7915 4 роки тому +4

    I got 233 I cried my eyes out I was seriously disappointed

    • @iffahhh9209
      @iffahhh9209 4 роки тому

      Faaris what- that’s good I would be happy if I were u tbh

    • @faaris7915
      @faaris7915 4 роки тому

      @@iffahhh9209 I wanted 245 man

    • @owenlok2325
      @owenlok2325 4 роки тому

      It's alright I know the feeling I got 239 and I wanted a 255

    • @ratelectric
      @ratelectric 4 роки тому +1

      r/iamverysmart

    • @faaris7915
      @faaris7915 4 роки тому

      @@owenlok2325 hope secondary would be better

  • @GhostySpoooki
    @GhostySpoooki Рік тому

    Students/media: PSLE are so hard..
    PSLE: idc cuz we salty