Solo: A Star Wars Story - WTF Happened To This Movie?
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2019
- Hollywood has had its fair share of historically troubled productions. Whether it was casting changes, actor deaths, fired directors, in-production rewrites, constant delays, budget cuts or studio edits, these films had every intention to be a blockbuster, but were beset with unforeseen disasters. Sometimes huge hits, sometimes box office bombs. Either way, we have to ask: WTF Happened To This Movie?
In the latest episode we look back at what happened to the Star Wars spinoff effort SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY, which ended up being a financial disaster and critical flop for the usually cast-iron franchise. However, it wasn't just a case of fans not caring for the film, it was a case of a film that seemed doomed early on, as original directors Chris Miller & Phil Lord were fired and replaced three-quarters of the way through shooting with veteran director Ron Howard picking up the slack and reshooting nearly the whole film. How did this happen? Why did this happen? What went wrong? We explore it all in the latest episode of WTF Happened To This Movie?
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Yeah, vanilla is my favorite ice cream flavor.
High quality vanilla is magic
i like vanilla
@Bertrum Arthur Bruh who hurt you
@Bertrum Arthur she do be a harsh one tho
I actually love both and get both together anytime possible. Seriously theres nothing better then a twist. Best of both worlds my friends....
May I also add that the TIMING of this film's release did it absolutely no favors either. Only two weeks after 'Avengers - Infinity War' and just one week before 'Deadpool 2'.
Yeah but it suffered in more ways than timing. It didn't feel like a Star Wars movie. I'm not saying it was it was bad but it was missing the Force.
And it should not have had a summer release. Why the hell did they do that.
@@timothy790110 It was decent but the stench of the Last Jedi kept people from going to see it.
@@ViciousAlienKlown I thoroughly enjoyed Solo, and would rather have seen a part 2 to that. Han solo meeting boba fett for a sequel would have been amazing.
@@timothy790110 A lot of things have to change at Lucasfilm before we start seeing good Star Wars again. Personally I would like to see Lucas buy the franchise back.
Alden Ehrenreich’s Han Solo Was amazing and I would love to see more of him
The best thing for this movie wouldve been if Han was telling this story to a young Ben Solo
Wow this was a very missed opportunity for them.
C C that could’ve and probably would’ve saved the movie
Should have been jacen solo
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey Jana
I see where you coming from but that wouldn't excuse the reason for this movie to exist.
Honestly,
I Think this should've been a series instead of the movie.
Honestly, they probably shouldn’t have made it at all. However, with how good Mando is, and the upcoming Obi Wan series, maybe you’re right!
Dude yeah!!!! I say this all the time. You woulda had more ability to see Han and Chewie’s misadventures all over the galaxy.
Now that the Skywalker story is coming to an end I think everything from here on out lends itself to TV. Our main looking glass will always be through Luke and without him it’s all small potato’s but in an expansive universe that fans are hungry to explore.The only issue is that you don’t get the top flight special effects with TV.
No. The Last Jedi should have been a TV mini series.
BoxxyFan I mean, it was part of anthology of films so not sure how that works. It was just a bad movie that could have worked well on its own with a capable director
What always sinks these movies is the potential of what could've been instead of what we received...
TLJ was trying something different but failed. Execution is the most important thing about filmaking.
@@rascoehunter3608 It was really running the same play they've been trying to run since 2008/2009*. Inter-sectional misandrist feminism**, humiliating the male characters, exclusively portraying male characters as dumb and/or villainous while portraying women as unrealistically talented, skilled, smart, and heroic.
About 60% of the movie going audience (which is really under 20% of the public- surprised me) finally got fully triggered. And now anything can trigger them again.
They are "mad as hell and they are not going to take it any more" and they are sitting on their wallets.
And a lot of actors and studios who feel unreasonably entitled to those people's money started attacking those people. And that made it personal.
Leading to a series of huge flops.
* I've been watching scrubs and I can see this trend developing with the Elliot character in Season 6 and 7 tho it's mild compared to TLJ. But I was browsing old forums and a lot of folks hated her for it.
** 1st wave Feminism is cool . the goal is fairness and equal treatment. 3rd wave feminism has a lot of crazy misandrist ideals in it and it definitely isn't seeking fairness or equal treatment.
there is literally nothing anyone can do to meet the demands of Star Wars fans
@@themeatpopsicle- I hear you but I disagree somewhat. If you stay within the lore of the franchise and don't disrespect the beloved characters, I believe you'd be surprised how happy you can make them.
I've read books and comics that did it better. Fin as a character, seen it better in a book. Han Solo movie, yep better novels. Rogue one, yep, I've seen it done better in RPG books, and the Han Solo novels.
I liked Solo a lot more then The Last Jedi.
Hell yeah! I would even say I thoroughly enjoyed Solo!
I liked both...
I get that some people have issues with either or both but I enjoyed both.
Both are garbage; just two different piles.
@@cardsfanboy The Last Jedi suffered more than being woke. It was poorly written and made no sense with characters changing their minds like underwear. Easily the worst in the franchise.
Came out too soon after the last jedi ,hence the backlash. A very solid movie in my opinion
If Solo came out before The Last Jedi, it would have been different.
@The Logomaker
The negativity that surrounded Last Jedi killed any desire for alot of fans to see Solo.
So how can you blame Ron Howard for a movie no one wanted to see?
@The Logomaker I and quite a few of my friends for one didn't watch Solo in theatres because we were still feeling let down by TLJ. (making it our shared first star wars movie ever missed in theatres and my first star wars movie not watched during it's first week in theatres since my birth.)
And I didn't watch the RoS in theatres either (wanted to wait for good reviews... but they never came)
@The Logomaker As much as I doubt that it is that bad, if it was just as bad as TLJ that would have been enough for me to be glad about my decision not to watch it.
And just to make that clear; my doubt stems from how bad TLJ was and the therefore missing space for movies to be that much worse. If it really was a Kubrick film compared to Solo, Solo would be the clear no contest winner for "worst movie ever made"... and lest not forget that there are still gems like "The Room" out there.
@The Logomaker you're clueless...why would people lose interest in watching a movie they haven't seen because of a change in director especially when the new director has a stacked resume? the last jedi was a steaming pile of trash and the blowback from that was why many decided to not watch solo. heck I didnt watch solo until it hit Netflix. the last Skywalker barely made a billion when the last jedi made 1.5 billion. it's obvious fans of star wars tuned out after last jedi. dont be stupid.
@@willtheangrydudeist9120
The negativity was a very loud and very minor group of people.
Disney has too many cooks of varying skills coming in and out of the kitchen in varying states of completion of the meal.
😆😆😆
Too many untalented leftist women were hired.
@Tokso Plaxmocis Found the incel v2
too many cooks will spoil the broth
Still the meal comes out raw.
That’s how you pronounce “origin”?
I paused after the second one and looked for comments. I never understand how mispronunciations make it in well made videos where others had to of been part of the editing.
He's reading from a script. Did he write it?
mettaworldwill maybe he doesn’t have anyone helping. It baffles me too. I offered to proofread, or should I say, proofwatch Minty’s videos for free. He basically told me to fuck off.
Gustavo, no, it really isn't.
How a person could get to like. 12 years old while still thinking that’s how you say this word.
Err ejin.
I really enjoyed this movie, far more than the last Jedi
Agree with you. Don't get the hate on Solo.
Anything is better than TLJ. Solo is not far behind though
agree to that...
The Last Jedi is a good film. It's faults are mixing prequel era humor with original trilogy themes.
@@TheSkizz89 lol that was funny.
being a casual fan of star wars, i thought it was fine. i found the conclusion to be more impactful than anticipated
It was a bit slow to get going but after that it was fine.
There it is.
"Being a casual fan".
Casual fans don't generate money for Star Wars. And that is why the franchise is limping.
@@darkcoeficient there are way more casual fans than hardcore fans. that's why all franchises cater to general audiences more than the fanatics. your logic is broken and your loyalty is misplaced
@@360.Tapestry odd because Star Wars made tons of money on merch before Disney...
@@darkcoeficient odd because there were still way more casual fans of star wars than fanatics before disney, too. this isn't important to me. have a good day. bye
A miniseries about Han and Lando could have been great.
It’s definitely coming in some shape or form
Brian M. I hope not
Lando: A Star Wars story
@@deathmetalbrian1 please no
@@kamuelalee they could make 2 more solo sequels with Chewbacca and Lando Returning
Who else hated how Han got his last name ??
Atleast it wasn't Hand Solo
Not as much as how Han got a solo movie.
It was fucking stupid.
@Kurt Dirmaier You're twelve - everything will be a _'cool moment'_ to you... 😒
He should have been named Loner-Boner
This movie is better than the new shit they are coming out with now
That Star Wars/Arrested Development mashup was gold.
I remember seeing Star Wars when I was 6 or 7 years old
And that opening theme still gives me goosebumps.
I was 13 when the first Star Wars movie came out. Which I believe was the perfect age to see it. And I did. Today watching the franchise is like watching your best friend get tortured in front of you to me. To death, revived then tortured to death again, and again. At this point I'm numb and just can't even care anymore. I'm cheering the torturerers on at this point. Yeah kill him again. Do it!
I genuinely could not finish watching this movie. I was all about Han Solo when I was a kid in the 70s. I walked around with a 12 inch Han Solo action figure, and I mean everywhere I went. He was my childhood hero and my one of my favourite movie characters for over 40 years. I didn't think it would be the best movie ever made, but I didn't think it would be so atrociously bad. For me, someone with a decades long affection for the character Han Solo and not being able to finish the movie. It hurt. Anyone that says it was a good movie has no idea about, and only pretends to know, who Han solo is.
Loved your parting line, "Never tell me the odds"!👍
11:00 was my favorite part when you mentioned what that move is called. Made me laugh.
Kathleen Kennedy happened.
@The Logomaker who was hired by KK, right?
@The Logomaker I am sure there is an argument to be made for that, but considering that I have not watched solo and I absolutely will not watch solo, I can't get too far into that discussion.I don't know why we couldn't just get rid of all of them and make sure. The shotgun approach, Kennedy, Johnson, kasdan and Abrams all need to be kicked out on the streets and never allowed to work in Hollywood again. of course we know though, they will fail upwards... Hollywood is the only industry on the planet where that is a thing.
No, you happened, and we've been suffering it since.
@@tiannaumann yeah, bc I had anything to do at all with their production and the horrible way they treated fans after the movies.
Pull your head outta your ass Reylo. Maybe then you'll actually be able to see a few things.
I wanna see the Snyder cut of Solo
Eric Mclnnes dude that would be f%cking great.
Dude, I saw the Synder Cut of Solo last week after hacking the Matrix!
There's all these awesome slowdown/speed up cuts, the entire film is so dark looking you think it was shot entirely in a cave, and Han breaks Darth Maul's neck in a fit of tearfilled rage.
Also Han asks a young Greedo, "Do you bleed?"
Oh and Russell Crowe shows up as ghost and talks to Han at random moments throughout the movie for some reason.
@@natalieb3766 DUDE THAT'S SUPER SWEET. But how did Russell get out of my let's say my man cave.
They've already burned the celluloid.
@@TheDuck632 Time travel via dream sequence!
Star Wars fatigue. That’s what happened to this movie.
No such thing
@Főfasírozó while i am sure there is fatigue, this wasnt that. there are plenty of other star wars things going on that continue to show the franchise has huge turn outs and profits, this was a not bad movie, but a pretty bad star wars movie, based around things that didnt matter, released right after Marvels flagship money maker Avengers, and just before a squeal to Deadpool.
Should've done a Boba Fett movie, and have it starts where he crawls out of sarlacc pit...
THAT would be good but Hollywood studio heads think they know better.. ffs a simple fan poll on Twitter or FB would help them plan better movies than whatever they're doing now 😒
Yeah that would be great. I thought of it myself a long time ago. Then one day I googled it and found a ton of other people had the same idea.
@@jackdare Never Twitter... Never EVER Twitter!
I'm from the future, and you are in luck.
I think solo would’ve been an interesting and fun live action series instead of cramming events we know happened in his life in 2 hour reshot movie
Which events?
Do yourself a favor and read the EU Han Solo trilogy, it's waaaaay better than this movie.
Why don't they want to make money? There are easily 40 to 60 Billion dollar star wars films in the EU if they would just be faithful to that canon.
Also the Han Solo Adventure novels, and the Lando novels.
I read that as a kid.
I love the film, but those are good too. Fun fact, these were a good influence on the film's production. Screenwriter Jon Kasdan is a HUGE EU fan and loves this stuff.
If Emilia Clarke goes near another classic franchise run to the hills.
Emilia Clark for a sequel of The Hunger Games.
she wasnt the issue for either terminator or solo. solo was good though.
@@y3ee3e And Terminator was not bad, either.
I loved this movie way better than I expected.
80's car chase tropes. A train heist. More lazy tropes.
And THAT'S how it's done in Hollywood!
To be fair, even the original Star Wars film is loaded with tropes that borrow from a bunch of sources (Flash Gordon, WWII films, etc). The difference is that it at least FELT fresh at the time because it hadn’t been combined with sci-fi and fantasy in such a spellbinding way. Now, the new films feel like cookie-cutter screenplays with forgettable characters.
Bullitt was not made in the 80s!
@The Logomaker Jesus Christ HELL NO
@The Logomaker but to praise Rian Johnson? Fuck that fucking noise man. TLJ is the worst thing that has happened to cinema.
I fucking loved this movie. Y’all judge too much.
The movie is great! I wish they would continue it to cover that ending, but too many people bitched and moaned at how terrible Star Wars is and they scrapped any more stories. So lame.
I'm with you bro. Loved it, and keeps growing on you with every viewing.
THANK YOU!!! Best SW movie outside of the original trilogy.
@@therookpiece ranked up there with the current Mandalorian series for me.
Kenneth Rutland Same here kid!
Solo subverted Disney’s revenue expectations....
Lourd and Miller would’ve made a great Han Solo movie
Last Jedi jacked everything up. Tossing out our old school characters like trash. Solo was great. Was excited to see a sequel.
Exactly my opinion
literally none of the old school characters died in last jedi but luke . leia survived . lando is coming back in the sequel and han was killed in the first movie because harrison ford hated the franchise
ARYA XZ Luke is an old
School character duh! They’ve done nothing with Chewie, yoda, or Obi one. Han was dead by Last Jedi. And leia “death not death” was stupid. Can we say not impressed? Last Jedi trashes the possibilities of old school characters having a better impact. That ok?
Even the new characters in force weakened by that shit film.
M CJ exactly!
Guess I'm just a Solo defender because I thought this it was done really well. The acting was great and the story is exactly what we needed and wanted. Young Hon couldn't have been better. There was literally nothing to complain about except that it came on the heels of TLJ. Which left a bad taste in the mouths of most. That one and Rouge One, weren't good to me.
@The Creator it suck
Let’s keep it real man; the movie is forgettable.
Ikr? I think it was pretty bold of him to claim to his viewers that this film is 'good, but just doomed to fail,' because as one of his viewers, I thought this film was beyond *boring.*
I disagree. This movie showed why Han wanted to be a scoundrel, his meeting and rescue of Chewie (don't tell me you weren't curious how Han saved Chewie when you heard he had a life debt"). It's not a world breaker, but it's not a bad movie either. Forgettable, because it's part of Star Wars cannon it will not be forgotten, regretted by some for sure, but enjoyed by some also.
Brian Nagar sorry man ... Curiosity isn’t enough to make something rememberable. It’s just enough to get you to watch. Though it’s just an opinion, but I would say a good many share it...I had no investment in the characters nor the story. I didn’t go back to watch it. Fulfilling ones’s curiosity isn’t always a good thing in storytelling. It is the mystique that makes something larger than life. Han is no longer a man of mystery, he’s just a regular predictable being in some story now, processed like a can of beans.
@@LuisSanchezLouieLouie well said, I still think it was a fun movie but respect your opinion.
Being in the imperial army seems to be like a circus where you can do what you want... The first galactic empire? like a circus? Cmon please! This movie is trash from the very beginning.
Thanks for an awesome video!
The movies never knocked my socks off but some of the games…man that is where I found my Star Wars passion.
Yeah I think he could have done a good job. Alden was meh, idk why but he was smiling way too much in the film and was a little cringe
I saw the original Star Wars movie in the big screen opening week. That knocked my socks off. Though admittedly Empire was a better movie. Since then it's been all downhill for the franchise as far as I'm concerned.
If you haven't played Shadows of the Empire multiple times on N64, you don't know great Star Wars games.
As always very insightful videos, could you do a WTF Happened to the Disney Trilogy!? Please :)
Not a bad film, better than the latest Star Wars films
It literally is the latest Star Wars film...
I mean the shitty new trilogy with the last one coming out in a couple of weeks,
@@_booth7992 they are straight garbage I like solo
Force Awakens was good do people forget about that
Rogue one was ok
getting a nod from Harrison Ford to play a young Han Solo is quite an achievement. you can't ask for more then that for any young Actor. I saw Solo I enjoyed it even with the issue of Directors and having Ron Howard come in to finish the film.
The Last Jedi happened to this movie.
This is gospel. Also, I liked Solo.
The Last Jedi killed any chance at a cohesive story for the sequel trilogy. THANK the Maker for Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau’s The Mandalorian.
Litterally what I said. "The Last Jedi happened to this movie."
Also, the way he says "origin" in this video makes me cringe.
@The Logomaker what even? The last jedi was awful
@The Logomaker I strongly disagree. The only ones I enjoyed were Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker.
Leaving a like for “maklunkey”
The only good thing about this movie...the ONLY good thing...is we finally get to see Chewie treated with respect. He is finally (somewhat) portrayed as the badass he is.
I didn't want this movie but am glad we have this movie. Solo was a really fun film.
OR-IGIN eh? ... I think you think this is said differently than its supposed to be said... friend.
Got me as well. I spent the next minute or so saying it out loud haha
Ehrenreich was a good Solo. The movie itself was awesome, I found nothing wrong with it
Same
I liked it. I liked the Kessel run scene and enfys nest.
Simply put, if Disney hadn't shot two different films to make 1 Solo movie, it would have been considered a success and actually made money.
The fact there is a Ray Fiennes clip in here made me happy enough to forget Solo for a minute
I actually thought this movie was fine. Not amazing or classic, but I enjoyed it. It was fine.
I can't tell you how far I scroll down the comments just to find yours because I feel the same way it wasn't bad it wasn't that great it was just good or all right it doesn't deserve a lot of the criticism that it gets
Fine ? Damning with faint praise. The movie was a disappointment both critically and at the box office
Agreed. It was fine. It only got hate because of the last jedi
I enjoy watching this movie every now and then! Thought it was good I just think Ford being Han is who Solo is! This young man I thought did good but he wasn't Harrison
Exactly wrong actor.
I thought so for the first ten minutes wheb ny son begged me to go watch.. another of those awful new SW movies... but then i kind of took it as an alternate take on it, forgot about the originals and realized i really enjoyed it... Actually more than my son did. He laughs at me when i occationaly suggest that we watch it
You are objectively wrong about The Last Jedi. Just because it didn't go in the directions you were expecting does not mean Rian Johnson was "making it up as he went along".
Solo was a fun adventure story. Last Jedi sucked.
Solo was way better than Last Jedi. The worst part of the movie was the feminist droid.
Being that Han Solo and Chewbacca are my favorite characters in the Star wars series I love this movie 🤔😁😜
Despite all justified criticism, compared to The LastJedi this is a masterpiece..
Nope, TLJ is FAR superior to Solo and the reviews and fan reaction confirm this.
Id rather watch the stat wars holiday special than the last jedi.
@@funny.gon-12 As a matter of fact, I actually did.
@@alexnorth3393 nope, not true
Love those WTF Happened to this movies series. Hope to see more.
Anthony Ingruber deserves to play Han Solo at least once in his life. The biggest missed opportunity of his life.
So true.....he very good at playing Han.....why not use him...people never wanted a Solo film..because nobody wanted to replace Harrison Ford....we love him as Solo....so if you were gonna do a Solo movie...Anthony would have been my pick!....the film should have been about Him and Chewie, on one of thier adventure before episode 4......Kennedy is a Dumbass....why not a Vader trilogy...why not a Knights of the Old Republic Trilogy, or Obi-wan...Mcgreger is still alive, and is the correct age!...RIGHT!!
The Logomaker who did?
Yes!! When this movie came out and every day it was getting trashed more than the day before, I couldn't help but smile and know they deserved every single bit of it because they casted an absolute shit actor instead of Ingruber.
Nope. I've seen Ingruber playing a young Harrison Ford and yes, he has the mannerisms down well, but all I could think of is that guy does a great Harrison Ford impression but he never inhabited the character. If he played Solo, it would be like a two hour imitation of Ford not the character of Han Solo.
I actually liked this movie and I also really enjoyed the character Rio but I think he died to early
This is a fun, enjoyable film - sitting beside Rogue One and the Mandalorian as fine continuations of the mythos. Is it perfect? No, but it has something the new trilogy lacks: characters that are engaging and interesting to watch.
Oh I thought the characters in the sequels were fun to watch
@@wwb16 they are. I feel like people look into these movies too much
I'll be honest, I was so disappointed by episode , I didn't go and see this at the cinema. However, when I saw it, I enjoyed it. The biggest problem with it is that we already know the outcome. I already know what Han goes on to do and that he will survive this prequel, up to episode 7. Therefore, there is never any real threat against him, and that's why it fall flat against the other prequels that he isn't in, or even Rogue one with its original cast. Still far, far better than episodes and 9 though.
Alden Ehrenreich reminds me way more of a young Dennis Quaid than a young Harrison Ford.
How? Thats not really a difference. If mean looks...he looks like neither. If you mean acting, then how? I dont see how at all. Pretty much the same thing
@@Keyser___Soze They do look similar.. he just struck me that way.. maybe some facial mannerisms or something.. reminded me of Quaid from Inner Space kind of.
When i was a kid Dennis Quaid reminded me of Harrison Ford....so 🤷🏽♂️
@@anthonyspitery6332 hah.. Yeah they are of the same "type" for sure.
The reason why Han Solo was popular was because of Harrison Ford take him out who gives a 💩
A lot of people
@@larniieplayz6285 Apparently not enough.
Michael T. Scott sure you think that
Larniie Playz The box office of Solo says otherwise.
Christoph Davis that’s because no one wants to see a Star Wars movie with sjw politics
I cant wait for the behind scenes story of what happened with The Rise Of Skywalker.....
The tale of so much 💩
I really liked movie. However I refused to see it in the theater after my major disappointment with The Last Jedi. I was so disgusted with Kennedy and Johnson that when I bought Solo on Blu-ray, I went to far as picking up a used copy at a Zias. I think that's how a lot of us felt. And it contributed to the film not doing well.
I bought the digital version from Amazon, but I also really enjoyed TLJ at the multiplex, twice.
Solo and rogue one were 100× better than the three new trilogy movies.
To me they were all boring. The only thing i liked about rouge one was the ending. Also i like the force awakens but everything else is wack. (In my opinion)
100 x 0 = 0
@2manynegativewaves you alright? Someone hurt your fragile feelings. Alot of people dont like these movies and they aren't all middle age people lol. Also learn how to string a sentence together. might help you get your stupid ass point across.
I really liked Solo in fact it’s one of my favourite Star Wars films.
I think if there wasn’t so many production problems then it wouldn’t have lost money.
They should have got Ron Howard in from the start
Yeah, the current run of Lucasfilm movies have been a mess with trying to reestablish the Star Wars name. I mean, Rogue One loses its director and had numerous scenes from the trailer cut along with original story beats, TLJ somehow didn't have issues behind the scenes, Solo lost its directing duo (who've since won Oscars for reinterpreting the mythos of Spider-Man) because they strayed to far from the script, TRoS lost its director for making a good awful movie (just wiki Book of Henry), then we got the recent Benioff & Weiss firing shortly after they rushed Game of Thrones to a poor series finale and admitted the show everyone loved was more due to luck and passionate crew and actors. That's not even going into the Josh Trank Boba Fett movie, but hey we got The Mandelorian so it's a wash.
@The Logomaker I don't think it was that simple. L&M cast a group of actors where their lead couldn't improv, their multiple takes were costing the studio an insane amount of money and they deviated from Kasdan's script (the one where Kennedy negotiated Kasdan's return to the series in TFA by guaranteeing a Solo movie) so much that in conjunction with everything listed, they had to be let go.
Remember, Solo was supposed to be a light space romp with a bit of comedy thrown in there. L&M decided it should be a reexamination of the Star Wars mythos seen through the eyes of its most cynical character. The only issue being it was costing the studio way too much and deviated too much from an established script. But hey, if L&M, Trevorrow, Edwards and Gilroy received credits for their previous work on their respective movies then its not a complete wash.
@The Logomaker Still, it was Kasdan's script and passion project (I mean a lot of what we learned about Han in 5,6 and 7 came from the elder Kasdan, if anyone knew the character it was him). As directors L&M should have known and respected that. The one thing reported over and over about Solo beyond it going overbudget, was how much the cast couldn't jibe with what L&M were doing. It speaks volumes, that 80% of the movie was completed through L&M before they were let go and Howard was able to reshoot it almost entirely for less in less time.
I'm more impressed it turned into a functional movie and not something like Justice League where you can clearly tell two different directors filmed it.
@The Logomaker I'm not doubting L&M at all. They are Oscar/BAFTA winners for a reason. However, it should have been stipulated from the start, in pre-production that they respect the script. Of the movies they've directed that they didn't write or produce, the only movie they they had less of a hand on was 21 Jump Street co-writen by one of its stars. Other movies and tv shows they had a greater hand of control or just wrote together.
I can't really bad mouth Kasdan since he wrote the nuances of the character and was approved by the actors playing him. I have no idea how it didn't work, it should have been a match made in the cosmos especially after L&M's reverence for the series. However, if they butt head with the writer(s), did numerous takes only to go over budget and not be close to being finished filming by the time the first trailer to TLJ comes out and release is on Memorial Day weekend, there needed to be a change.
It does add a cloud over the current Lucasfilm regime. For movies that made so much to have so many behind the scenes issues, I'm amazed they've been so successful in these few troublesome years. It's equal parts a miracle and troubling they're still afloat. After, TROS here's to another 5 years.
@The Creator Mabye LandM could’ve done an original story in this world with an original smuggler character created by them instead of Han. That way the have more freedom with his/her fate and overall story.
Hopefully they can make a sw movie with their input. I doubt that I’ll happen but wouldn’t it be great. If there letting taikia do his own thing Mabye there is a way lord and Miller could too
Disney loses 80m dollars on Solo.....
....I'm sure they will live.
XD When i watched Solo, all i could think about was that scene in Hail Caesar. XD lol
If I remember correctly the EU version has Chewie as a slave working on the death star when had saved him.
I'm surprised so many people enjoyed Solo. In my opinion it was the must dull star wars movie to date. The Last Jedi killed the trilogy but it wasn't as boring as Solo.
Revit UpNow it was pretty dull though
Personally, I LOVED 'Solo'. I'm not a huge Star Wars fanboy (but enough to know 'The Empire strikes Back' will never be beaten) Alden's performance was great, the set pieces (the heist in particaular) was fantactic too. I am not always on board with Rotten Tomatoes or IMDb for their rating for 'The Last Jedi'
That was 100% the best rundown on why Solo underperformed. I'm really sick of hearing from Star Wars "fans" (the more toxic ones, as mentioned in the video) how crap this movie is when many of them haven't even seen it. They point to box office as evidence, and this video excellently explains why that happened and it wasn't due to the film itself, but a lot of surrounding circumstances. As for Rotten Tomatoes, I am aware there was a concerted push by certain fanboy elements after The Last Jedi to boycott this movie and vote it down on RT. I have read and heard from some of those who either decided this movie sucked before they saw it or didn't see it at all that now the fuss has all died down and they have revisited it or seen it for the first time, they actually liked it. Definitely deserves a sequel with the same cast.
HAN SOLO's character story arc was completed with the original STAR WARS trilogy. nobody asked for a SOLO prequel.
I asked for a Solo prequel. So STFU
I know I'm the minority here, but I liked SOLO! I've always said that I felt it was a casualty of war. After The Last Jedi fans were skeptical of anything Star Wars.
I thoroughly enjoyed it too. Count me in as a minority
I thought it was decent. I'm not sure that it needed to be made but what we got was entertaining enough.
I enjoyed it. Even more so on subsequent viewings. I didn't watch it until it streamed because I was boycotting after TLJ. Which Many people did
It was quite bad... on so many fronts.Boring, lacked depth, and then Lando sucked.... poor actor was forced to cry about the bad biatch droid, "DamMn Boo, I don't wanna fight no Mo!"
Outside of Lando’s robot, L3, I liked it too. I’ve scene it more then TLJ
For me, the reveal of the 14 years old girl as the pirates' boss near the end breaks the movie.
Actress was 19
Yep that was ridiculous !
All those directors did not "step aside". They were fired by Kathy Khaos Kennedy.
Ron Howard was one of the people George Lucas wanted to direct Return of the Jedi.
wstine79 Actually, George Lucas wanted Ron Howard to direct the prequels but Howard rejected the offer because he found the project “too daunting” and felt that Lucas was the only one who could do the “Star Wars” franchise justice (since Lucas created those characters after all):
*”’[George Lucas] didn’t necessarily want to direct them. He told me that he had talked to [Robert] Zemeckis, he talked to me, he talked to Steven Spielberg. I was the third one he spoke to. They all said the same thing: ‘George, you should just do it. This is your baby.' Nobody wanted to follow that act I don’t think at that point. That was an honor, but it would’ve been just too daunting.’”*
Source: www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ron-howard-turning-down-star-844107
And also Lucas was under a ban from the directors guild due to his nonstandard titles for The Empire Strikes Back. No director in hollywood would/could help Lucas unless they wanted to risk their careers.
This was a great movie!
The Old Republic would make an awesome series. You could get at least 3 full length movies, maybe more if the individual characters warranted spin offs. The Old Republic was so far in the past from what they are making now that you could go in so many directions.
Me and my original thrilogy fan friends who detested the prequels when they came out but had a slight hope after The Force Awakens before it went all horrible in the Last Jedi gave up on it all.... But when watching Solo with no expectations, we all realized we really enjoyed it. All of us admitted that Solo was the best new Star Wars release, now next to the Andor series. Surpassing the Rogue One that was quite ok I'd say it was caught in the disasterous vibe of the sequel trilogy failure and failed by plain association.
I'd watch Solo over the latest main entry any day of the week.
Solo was a fun movie. Ron Howard did his best.
One of those statements is correct. Ron Howard did his best and for the 3 weeks he had its a wonder he pulled it off.... But the movie is garbage on structural level. The name is a lie, its not a Solo movie. Solo is a sidekick in the story focusing on everyone except Solo and the movie tells nothing about how Solo became or learned anything. It instead tells how a teenager became Enfys Nest and how Han Solos exgirlfriend turned a super-Ninja and how the Outlaw team led by Woody Harrelson died, him the last one being killed by Solo for reasons too convoluted for anyone to care and most of them having more to do with Enfys Nest need to be the hero than Solos character being anything at all. ONLY reason anyone say anything positive of Solo is because The Last Jedi was so offensively bad that Solo appeared ok in comparisonl But no its not Solo which is good. Its the Last Jedi which is THAT BAD so bad that teachers in screenwriting can use it as example of how not to do a movie.
@For Shiz yo Now you are lying Nobody who trashes Rise of Skywalker claims to have seen the movie. What is being trashed is - SAME AS WITH SEASON 8 - the leaked story details. The leaks appeared online before the first trailer and same as with Game of Thrones Season 8 unfortunately ALL material released after the leaks have confirmed the leaks. So people who read the leaks now have a very good idea what the movie will be like from start to finish and they are trashing THAT version of the movie. Whether Disney will release that version of the movie is up to them but everything points towards they will do it because Kathleen Kennedy would lose face is they fixed even some of the obvious problems. When I say everything points towards the movie being like that I mean we have seen 4 different trailers since then containing exactly what was predicted in leaks. Its no longer contested that its about a fetch-quest for a macguffin to go to the Emperor and have the most anticlimactic least exciting battle in movie history. So you claiming "nobody have seen it yet" is an non-argument. If its ANYTHING like what have been leaked then I am glad I havent seen it. The leaked writing is bad beyond understand and the movie is not driven by the characters. Things just "happen" because the script want them to happen. The main characters dont need to do anything, every challenge is fixed by somebody just happening to show up with the missing piace of the macguffin search from sidequest hell of RPG:s
@The Logomaker Thats the fantasy version. The real story is that Ron Howard was given 3 weeks to turn Spaceballs 2 the movie feat Jim Carrey into a Star Wars movie because Phil Lord and Chris Miller wasted the money on multiple takes on the same scene ending up with content which couldnt be used. Also as is obvious from the movie we ended up with the script was all over the place. They couldnt decide if they wanted to do a western, a heist movie or a romantic adventure. They tried to do everything and got a movie which cant decide what it want to be.
@The Logomaker Spaceballs 2 wouldnt have been a Star Wars movie at all. Also Lord & Miller did get their way... The problem was what they did with their way. It was only 3 weeks left and they simply did not bother working on producing a movie on schedule. They spent the money...Dont you see how cheap looking the movie we got is? Disney will probably never tell how much the actual movie cost but my guess would be less than 100 million dollars was spent by Ron Howard on the movie we actually got. Solo looks incredibly cheap Probably in large degree shot on mostly small sets meaning The camera had to zoom in to hide the lack of stuff. For example on Mimban during the introduction of Harrelson and the gang the camera zooms hardly showing anything of what the gang is shooting at. The scene is four people who for all we care could randomly fire at the ground or in the air....in the "war" the total number of enemies we see getting shot is ONE... Woody Harrelson fires his gun at ONE enemy. The rest is random firing offscreen. Its some of the shittiest camere work or editing found in any Star Wars or Spaceballs movie ever.
@For Shiz yo much agree
God your videos go good with week
I absolutely love the speeder chase, THE PIT and the CONVEVEX ROBBERY.
Han's mentor: "Always shoot first, kid"
That, my friends, is called pandering. An entire movie of pandering.
Enjoyed this more than the new trilogy...by a margin.
Yes, a slap in the face is preferable to a kick in the groin...
I think ppls expectations will NEVER be met.
It's a good movie. I loved it, but I viewed it as I do with all Star Wars movies, with massive nostalgia.
I fucking hate nit-picking.
Wild. Never knew any of this about Solo, I just knew I loved the movie.
I noticed that it isn’t even on Disney+. I think a lot of fans boycotted it because of “The Last Jedi” debacle.
because it's still on Netflix
It was primarily because of TLJ.
@The Logomaker I personally know about a dozen people who watched Force Awakens and forgave it, hopeful for TLJ, and who after watching TLJ completely gave up on Disney Star Wars. Several even took some convincing to get them to give Mandalorian a shot.
TLJ completely murdered Disney Star Wars. Before TLJ anything with the name was basically a money printing press.
The prequels had their fair share of haters, at least the first one did, but they all did well, and most people thought they were at least okay.
I can say for certain that a LOT of people didn't watch Han as a direct result of TLJ being absolute garbage.
I enjoy "What went wrong with the Solo movie" videos on UA-cam more than the actual movie!!
The main complaint about the movie is that the post production team messed up and badly. It's too freakin dark!
I actually really liked this movie, I definitely feel like “The Last Jedi” (which I didn’t like) put a dark cloud over it. People hated on it before it even came out .
@The Logomaker I'm sorry that you are tired of the truth. The last jedi was so disgustingly bad it sunk this movie.
@The Logomaker Rian had NOTHING to do with Solo... He made Episode 8... Which SUCKED HARD (other than Luke's stand off with Kylo, the movie utterly sucked). People were so pissed off about Episode 8 that they boycotted Solo in order to try to get Kathleen Kennedy fired by Disney (which FINALLY seems to be happening!)
My favorite part of solo was when he fought for the empire . I wanna see more that
Seeing death mail at the end was satisfying
Using the Han Solo trilogy book series as the origin story would've been the way to go. It was much better thought out and gives Han Solo's past as a failed Imperial officer saving Chewbaca the reason he knows so much about Imperial starships and fleet procedures to the original trilogy.
I thought it was a really great film, but there is no denying it flopped, and it was a crime what happened to Lord and Miller. However it won't stop me from recommending the film
Star wars is not the biggest movie franchise of our time, the mcu kinda kicks its ass there
I disagree
Your an idiot lol
What movie is that at 6:45?
I remember hearing a quote from some exec I can't remember say that Star Wars under Disney will keep making Star Wars until people stop seeing them and nobody was ever gonna stop seeing them.
Also, I hear that Ford came back for Force Awakens was ON CONDITION that they kill his ass off. So an endorsement from him regarding the character he hated being doesn't hold much weight to me.
Holy crap, the “I think they call it ‘Maclunkey’” joke was GENIUS.
I still don't understand what Lucas was doing with that scene. How many edits has he made to Star Wars since '77?