There’s not really timing, the only timing is the first initial sends and then he sends them as soon as they are off cooldown. Not trying to downplay his feat though.
@@TheBestFormOfHumorhe was adjusting his timings on the fly to counter the dark doges, and also wasn't spawning as soon as possible which makes a difference in this case
2:33 you could say that it cycled from early game to endgame Also GGs on 4* Soc! I wanna call this a *Low Gacha* run because of the two ubers that're simply for combos.
starting with Urs then cycling to Ururun makes a lot of sense, Urs's Weaken helps you retain ground, whereas Ururun's Knockback helps you gain ground, and when Urs dies, that's probably because you lost ground, so Ururun will help regain it.
@@TheBestFormOfHumor You're partially correct, spawning Riceball and Rock right off cooldown generally is easy, but here, you have to spawn them in intervals within like 10 frames. And doing that for nearly 8 minutes straight requires a lot of concentration. And not only that, when Soractes gets knocked back, you're timing is all messed up since his distance from the base is different, and you have to adjust. That's why this is kind of hard, but, not the HARDEST thing I've ever done.
I would say Doremi Wrath Stage with Only Normal Cats. It's the video I uploaded 8 days ago. It contains no attack, defense, or research combos which nobody else has ever done before.
You nailed it! I know that some sort of strategy in 4 crown will be possible when I noticed that stone cat can almost stall soratec entirely by itself, but how to handle the doges is beyond me, you have truly done the impossible...
chillhola on 4 star ul stream when some guy asked about possibility of soractes 4 star :"its currently impossible" he said and you proved them wrong GG
I shamelessly ubercarried. I used kai and hades to tank while bursting him down with teselan and hanzo (pre tf) and it took a few tries to get right but worked in the end
@@shoeskode136 idk i think people just dont like it cuz the strats are less universally applicable and people without good ubers get upset when units they dont have help/trivialize a hard stage
Ain’t no way cycling is an early game strategy, I’ve been playing battle cats since 2014 and only a few months ago have I found out about cycling which I discovered while rebeating okame for funsies
Legend cycling is genuinely an early game strat, usually in SoL when people use Bahamut and Ururun. It dies down in midgame when things like Courier exist.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 ok but how have I just heard of this ☠️ I’ve been playing the game for a decade! Onky a few months ago I learnt that cycling is useful and today I learnt there was a name for it 😭
I saw this strat on a japanese account, but first time seeing it in EN. Good job. I wonder if its doable no gacha, by sending rock half the time and other random things the other half. Ill be working on that soon (curtently working on doremi wrath, with an extra secret twist ;) )
Somebody beat it 4* No Gacha using The Three Kings Combo, Maneki (for accounting combo), Bondage Cat, Sardine, Boulder, Assault C.A.T, Urs, and Ururun. They were an EN player. Yeah, don't ask me how, I have no clue.
Amazing run! I can't wait to get to ZL so I can try out your strat. It would be even cooler completely uberless though. Does it still work if I take out the egg unit and the uber research combos (while keeping Sumo) then instead insert biobone and minisaurus? Also, what's the minimum requirement for sumo to survive a hit from soractes? P.S. I have Cheating Heart too, and also Research L combo with Himeyuri. I'm just wondering if there is room to display even more skill.
There is a non uner 4 star strat: The lineup is Lion King and Three Kings combo, Maneki (accountingup combo), Bondage Cat, Sardine, Rock, Heavy Assault C.A.T, Urs, and Ururun. I assure you, never try that strat, you’d probably die before succeeding. Ok about your combo question, Mini-saurus + BioBone unfortunately does not work. You need at least an Medium combo and 2 Small combos, or 1 Large combo and 1 Small Combo. This strat can’t work without at least 1 uber sorry :( Try the bondage strat :)
Can you do floor 47(regular tower) 2 units no gacha? I have gotten very close (killed puffer) it's been 2 year though so i am washed but i still believe it's possible, i used Cat with either slime or rock i don't remember which exactly unfortunately
@@miguelanjo2776 Green Shell only tanks 3 more hits anyways, and Egg Pod's damage is valued because he can kill Doge Dark quickly, I could care less about his damage to Soractes
If you need 2 ubers for a 4★ stage, that's when you know it's absolute cancer (BTW good job, you should be more noticed, riceball timings must've been a pain)
Thanks! One of the combos can be replaced with a weaker non-uber combo and this strat still works fine, so you only need one uber. I just used these since li’l my and riceball are both a part of the combos
If you're looking for a guide for regular Adherence to Virtue, definitely use Cyber and Sniper in place of the combos and use octopus. Cyber and Sniper can't be used in 4 crown obviously
This unfortunately does not work without at least one uber. You need at least L+Sm combos or M+2Sm combos, and the only M and L combos that can be used that also fit more combos contain ubers.
The general timing is actually kinda simple, if you send out rock and the riceball right after each other and right after they recharge, they perma stall. However, the hard part is consistently hitting the timing, and when soractes pushes or gets kbed, you need to assess and adjust. You just need to make sure rock and riceball don’t hit soractes at the same time and you should be good.
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The timings to get soractes to not push are insane, really good shit dude, congrats!
There’s not really timing, the only timing is the first initial sends and then he sends them as soon as they are off cooldown. Not trying to downplay his feat though.
Are you human!? This riceball and stone timing are amazing
Yes I am human :) If you want I can elaborate on the timings
Is spawning units off of cooldown considered skill nowadays?
@@TheBestFormOfHumor already replied to your other comment, but, um, do you have any other challenges that you think are harder that I could try?
@@manickingdragonstack6404 not anything in particular
@@TheBestFormOfHumorhe was adjusting his timings on the fly to counter the dark doges, and also wasn't spawning as soon as possible which makes a difference in this case
Holy Cat God this is just i can't describe the feeling i have over this other worldly battle
2:33 you could say that it cycled from early game to endgame
Also GGs on 4* Soc! I wanna call this a *Low Gacha* run because of the two ubers that're simply for combos.
Or a "No Gacha on Field" run, if you wanna be pedantic.
Hi bora
This guy did 4* restriction before 4* came out, before it got powercrept, and just used skill. Classic MKDS W, Subbed my king.
starting with Urs then cycling to Ururun makes a lot of sense, Urs's Weaken helps you retain ground, whereas Ururun's Knockback helps you gain ground, and when Urs dies, that's probably because you lost ground, so Ururun will help regain it.
How is this guy not getting the recognition that he deserved
I will get the recognition that I deserve soon :)
This strat is cool but not exactly difficult in any way
@@TheBestFormOfHumor You're partially correct, spawning Riceball and Rock right off cooldown generally is easy, but here, you have to spawn them in intervals within like 10 frames. And doing that for nearly 8 minutes straight requires a lot of concentration. And not only that, when Soractes gets knocked back, you're timing is all messed up since his distance from the base is different, and you have to adjust. That's why this is kind of hard, but, not the HARDEST thing I've ever done.
@@manickingdragonstack6404whats the hardest thing that you have ever done?
I would say Doremi Wrath Stage with Only Normal Cats. It's the video I uploaded 8 days ago. It contains no attack, defense, or research combos which nobody else has ever done before.
You nailed it! I know that some sort of strategy in 4 crown will be possible when I noticed that stone cat can almost stall soratec entirely by itself, but how to handle the doges is beyond me, you have truly done the impossible...
chillhola on 4 star ul stream when some guy asked about possibility of soractes 4 star :"its currently impossible" he said and you proved them wrong GG
Absolutely incredible clear
by the way, this isn't just 4 stars, this is no gacha if you exclude combos
legend cycling is back 🔥🔥
Killer Cat living up to the hype
I shamelessly ubercarried. I used kai and hades to tank while bursting him down with teselan and hanzo (pre tf) and it took a few tries to get right but worked in the end
Why is uber carrying so bad
Its just using your best units to defeat a boss nothing wrong with that
Good luck when 4* eventually comes out!
@@shoeskode136 idk i think people just dont like it cuz the strats are less universally applicable and people without good ubers get upset when units they dont have help/trivialize a hard stage
@@Dsquarius_Green_Jr.Whatever, go my lufilan
@@shoeskode136 because its not fun to play anymore if you just spam ur most op cats
this is mad impressive, wish i had even close to that good timing
The timing isn't hard, what's hard is that you have to consistently do it for 8 minutes
@@manickingdragonstack6404That’s honestly the reason why it’s pretty impressive
"You can't escape the boosted check"
Meanwhile ManicKingDragonStack not only dodging it but displaying his absolute CHAD skill levell
damn that was great dude .Need more attraction!
W vid we just need to wait for the mainstream youtubers to pick this strat up
Ain’t no way cycling is an early game strategy, I’ve been playing battle cats since 2014 and only a few months ago have I found out about cycling which I discovered while rebeating okame for funsies
Legend cycling is genuinely an early game strat, usually in SoL when people use Bahamut and Ururun. It dies down in midgame when things like Courier exist.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 ok but how have I just heard of this ☠️ I’ve been playing the game for a decade! Onky a few months ago I learnt that cycling is useful and today I learnt there was a name for it 😭
feel like it could be done with cat cpu if it wouldnt deploy killer mohawk or ururun with urs
I have everything I need to do what you did(besides talented riceball) so when 4* inevitably comes out I’ll be ready
Good :)
Tbh even this lineup can be optimized: for instance green shell is probably better than egg pod due to the higher hp.
@@christopherdangelo1292 I chose Cat Egg Pod because he does higher damage. It's for the doge darks.
by the time 4* comes out we’ll probably have more counters to this stage so it’ll not be that bad…hopefully.
The only 3 words I can think of here are you are insane. Even outside of combos this is technically a no gacha run.
man i just got stolen my phone for a month and theres already socrates with restriccions? WHEN DID THAT HAPPENED
LOL socrates 4* isn’t in the actual game. I replicated this in BCU
@@manickingdragonstack6404 battle cats unite?
@@bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb_ Battle Cats Ultimate. Unite is the nintendo switch version
I saw this strat on a japanese account, but first time seeing it in EN. Good job.
I wonder if its doable no gacha, by sending rock half the time and other random things the other half. Ill be working on that soon (curtently working on doremi wrath, with an extra secret twist ;) )
Somebody beat it 4* No Gacha using The Three Kings Combo, Maneki (for accounting combo), Bondage Cat, Sardine, Boulder, Assault C.A.T, Urs, and Ururun.
They were an EN player. Yeah, don't ask me how, I have no clue.
Here's the footage
ua-cam.com/video/8-sJaeqkJXM/v-deo.html
@@manickingdragonstack6404 thanks! But deceptive a bit :/
@@john_hatten2862 Yeah since he didn't record the run
Took me 15 tries and this dude does it without Octopus 😨
insane
Thank you stargazer
Amazing run! I can't wait to get to ZL so I can try out your strat.
It would be even cooler completely uberless though. Does it still work if I take out the egg unit and the uber research combos (while keeping Sumo) then instead insert biobone and minisaurus?
Also, what's the minimum requirement for sumo to survive a hit from soractes?
P.S. I have Cheating Heart too, and also Research L combo with Himeyuri. I'm just wondering if there is room to display even more skill.
There is a non uner 4 star strat: The lineup is Lion King and Three Kings combo, Maneki (accountingup combo), Bondage Cat, Sardine, Rock, Heavy Assault C.A.T, Urs, and Ururun. I assure you, never try that strat, you’d probably die before succeeding.
Ok about your combo question, Mini-saurus + BioBone unfortunately does not work. You need at least an Medium combo and 2 Small combos, or 1 Large combo and 1 Small Combo. This strat can’t work without at least 1 uber sorry :( Try the bondage strat :)
@@manickingdragonstack6404 Aww ok. I guess I'll just use my OP research combos.
What a Madlad
3 & 4 star versions of this stage are going to be so rough, unless we get some bonkers powercreep
3* is the same normal strat, use octo, cyber and sniper.
@ can octopus survive the buffed stats?
@@meepswag35 Depends on what level you have him at. A guy named altarcat already did Adherence to Virtue 3* using BCU, he didn't use any ubers.
3* ATV no Uber?! Wow, was it at 180% magnification?!
@@callumconnors5190yep
Absolutely crazy! I suppose handling 4 Star Socrates will definitely be possible now!
This is insane but lil nyandam being useful is even more insane
Yeah well why not use him if he's in the combo
Good thing there are 4 more wise legendary units to unlock, because I wouldn't let them do a single kb
Can you do floor 47(regular tower) 2 units no gacha? I have gotten very close (killed puffer) it's been 2 year though so i am washed but i still believe it's possible, i used Cat with either slime or rock i don't remember which exactly unfortunately
I can try :) Another addition to the many things I could possibly upload.
amazing. just a question: why cat egg pod over green shell cat? since there are no behemoths to be dodged
Egg Pod does more damage
@@manickingdragonstack6404 wow, didnt expect that to make enough of a difference to be worth less hp
@@miguelanjo2776 Green Shell only tanks 3 more hits anyways, and Egg Pod's damage is valued because he can kill Doge Dark quickly, I could care less about his damage to Soractes
This is wild
If you need 2 ubers for a 4★ stage, that's when you know it's absolute cancer
(BTW good job, you should be more noticed, riceball timings must've been a pain)
Thanks! One of the combos can be replaced with a weaker non-uber combo and this strat still works fine, so you only need one uber. I just used these since li’l my and riceball are both a part of the combos
insanity
Insane stalling
This is insane
Very Impressive
Very impressive 👍
YOOOO THIS IS INSANE WTF
We need a MDK UF just for this
it's insane
not gonna sugar coat it
Can I use cyberpunk or sniper instead of cats in box?
If you're looking for a guide for regular Adherence to Virtue, definitely use Cyber and Sniper in place of the combos and use octopus.
Cyber and Sniper can't be used in 4 crown obviously
@@manickingdragonstack6404 Ok
I’m contemplating whether to ultra forming windy for this stage
You most likely should.
Since you’re talking about 1*.
Nice
That's amazing.
Btw I have a friend who has beat soractes no gacha. And idk which challenge is harder
No gacha's definitely harder
@@manickingdragonstack6404 oh tks
How much easier would this strategy be if it was translated to 1 crown without ubers/sniper in lineup?
This unfortunately does not work without at least one uber. You need at least L+Sm combos or M+2Sm combos, and the only M and L combos that can be used that also fit more combos contain ubers.
holy poop
Oh cool
How in the FUCK??? You're amazing!
Bro is a god GG (the stage is harder than it looks)
Damn,good job man
Man, im in ZL and i still dont have the true form of lil nyandam or ururun
They're not very meta anymore. It's fine.
This is pure insanity and thats why I love this stage😂
Jesus its actually possible
It's... Possible..?
Why Cat Egg pod and not green shell, which has way more hp?
Egg Pod does more damage
I wish urs and ururun had a combo together
Yo xskull picked up your stalling method!
wait fr?
@ yep theres a new members only video if you click on his join the video shows up there with sumo and boulder on the thumbnail
this stage is alot like an eoc 3 moon remake
This is way harder than eoc 3 moon and it is a lot later in the game
@ it’s kinda similar. They’re both a fast pushing floating boss that introduces something new to the player like meat shielding or sage trait.
Wait why egg cat but not green shell
Egg Pod does more damage
@@manickingdragonstack6404 oh alr thx, btw this is so sick I’ve been waiting to see this be beaten without cyberpunk and sniper
imposssible no uber?
For no uber, this strat can’t be used since rock’s recharge isn’t fast enough. It requires a different strat to which i have no clue what it could be
It is apparently possible no gacha as well with bondage cat as a tank, someone has done it on discord
@@Google-En-Passant wild
prob will have to sacrifice lil nyandam for a weaker attacker in another recharge combo
@@Google-En-Passantcan you still find ir? I'd be very interrested
would shellboner be better over egg pod?
Yes if egg pod didn't have 44k damage per hit.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 doesn't shellboner have more or similar dmg, sry i don't remember off the top of my head
@@manickingdragonstack6404 my bad, its more hp, egg pod has way more dmg, nice vid
Nice one man
no beat the stage with mkd stack
1 step closer to no gacha
No gacha's already been done with two different strats, one of them was with 4* restrictions. Both are unreasonably difficult.
@manickingdragonstack6404 damn
Can you link the vid (if there is one?)@@manickingdragonstack6404
why not use gold bar cat?
He gets two shot and is too slow, he's not gonna do anything.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 got it
Howwwe is the timing so wellllll? Can you elaborate it somehow?
The general timing is actually kinda simple, if you send out rock and the riceball right after each other and right after they recharge, they perma stall. However, the hard part is consistently hitting the timing, and when soractes pushes or gets kbed, you need to assess and adjust. You just need to make sure rock and riceball don’t hit soractes at the same time and you should be good.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 yoo that's fire! Imma see if I can try taking it further
@@manickingdragonstack6404kinda reminds me of rock baiting kappy Jr, though doing this is significantly harder
Well imo this is more similar to stalling Yulala in Floor 40 with Manic Mohawk
im gonna try it but only 2 forms, wish me luck!
any reason why you're not doing this on the actual game?
To be fair there's barely no difference between BCU and in game, all cats are no gacha anyway
probably to save a hundred or so rich cats
It's because of a couple of reasons, one of which being Adherence to Virtue 4* does not exist in game >:V
how in the fuck
Wtf
wtf
How many attempts did this take?
See, the thing is, I didn't count, but it definitely took less than 20 attempts.
@@manickingdragonstack6404 that’s so impressive, it took me well over 30 with every unit in the thumbnail…