This happened when I was a kid. I remember my father, who had to get up at 4:30 am to go to work. He stayed up to watch this. We were all shocked at that because he never stayed up past 10:00pm on a week night.
@@jigokunokishi917if you’ve seen interviews, you’d see that Tiny Tim had no predictors reasons to marry Miss Vicki, and it was common at that time period for teens in their late teens to marry much older guys
@SophieSanwogou what you're saying it it was more acceptable to be a sexual predator at the time. Kinda like that Canadian kids gameshow host who would kiss little girls on the lips even if they didn't want him to back in the 80s. Fergie Oliver was his name. The audience laughed when he did it, but there's no denying it was a child predator
I was 10 years old at the time. My mom knew how much I wanted to see this. She woke me up and we watched it together. I had to go back to bed 'cause I had school the next day.
My dad grew up in the same neighborhood with Tiny Tim. I believe his name was Herb Khoury. My dad said he was always nice but as everyone knows, a little strange. Johnny is wonderful. So gracious. He was the best.
@@retroguy9494Bull. Can we please stop rewriting history? You can have your own opinion about his musical talents, but TinyTim was far from a “good and kind” man. Look up the Morton Downey interview where he states that he thinks he “had a right” to HIT his teen wife over adultery, and insisted on no birth control in their marriage due to him being a hardline Catholic, after which his wife has their daughter who he TOTALLY ABANDONED physically and financially. His teen wife who he married at nearly 4 years old said that the only she got out of the marriage was meeting some famous people. Not a standout fantastic individual in Tiny Tim.
@@DoctorShocktor You keep speaking of my 'rewriting history' but it's obvious to ME that you have some pretty tainted opinions about people when it comes to women. I'd really like to know where that comes from? Do you have some personal experience with spousal abuse or were you in some way abused as a child? When I said he was a 'good man' I was more referring to his charitable works and how he appreciated his fans. In fact, on the night he suffered his fatal heart attack he was in the middle of a song at a benefit concert for which he received no money. I never heard about him hitting his wife. In fact, after their marriage, the mostly lived apart until they divorced. So I don't know from what credible source you obtained your information on that one. Regarding his daughter Tulip, you say he abandoned her physically and financially. Yet, he fought for full custody of her and got it from a New York State court. This was reported by credible press sources at the time. So if anyone is 'rewriting history' it's YOU. Finally, regarding his Catholicism and birth control, what is so bad or wrong about that? I'm Catholic myself and that has always been the position of the Catholic Church. Although Pope Paul VI DID allow the 'rhythm method' for married couples and now quiet recently, while not changing the churches official position, Pope Francis told married couples in poor South American countries that it may be better to consider birth control rather than bring children into a world of poverty and starvation. Besides, Tiny Tim only had the ONE child. Plus his wives knew he was Catholic when they married him. While I am dead set against abortion, I have no problem with birth control even as a Catholic But what is so 'wrong' in your opinion about a married man being against birth control?
I wasn't born yet when the wedding happened; but I heard stories from different viewpoints. I guess Tiny Tim and Miss Vicky's backs were turned to show that their wedding was genuine and not merely publicity. From what I read, Johnny encouraged the wedding to take place on his show. If publicity was intended, I'd think it would be coming more from Johnny and the TV network--they definitely succeeded in their intentions. Thanks for uploading this in full.
I also remember watching this live. It was a school night, and I was supposed to be in bed, but I snuck out into the hallway to see it. When the ceremony was over, and they went to join Johnny, I snuck back to bed. I don’t think my parents knew, because nothing was mentioned the next morning.
Tiny Tim's song to his new bride is a sensitive, lovely vow. There have been all kinds of inventive and unique wedding ceremonies. It's too bad so many people choose to watch this and then criticize the wedding as "bizarre". This was a legitimate wedding with a real minister, and Johnny Carson treated the couple with respect and dignity.
I thought that because their backs were turned during the ceremony, both Tiny and Vicky showed that they weren't taking their wedding as a publicity stunt opportunity; they were taking it sincerely. You're right, there have been all kinds of unique wedding ceremonies. I guess that because this took place in the late 1960s, people tended to see uniqueness negatively.
@GlamGal 710 In most religions ceremonies, the bride and groom have their backs turned to the crowd. Least in Catholic/Christian ceremonies I've been in or gone to. It's the same reason the guests face the front of the church. The chuch considers it rude to turn the back away from the Alter, crosses or the Jesus on the cross hangs. Which is ironic because that's what the priest/pastor does the entire time they preach or lead a ceremony(has his back to those items) I don't think it was any more then that. Although the entire wedding was yuckie due to her age.. and his. He always skeeved me out
Thanks for posting this event! Being just 12 years old at the time, I was asleep as it was a school night and I missed it. Finally getting to see it at age 67 is awesome!!!❤️❤️❤️🤗🤗🤗
I remember my mother had watched this when it aired and would talk about it from time to time for some years afterward. Of course, I wasn't allowed to stay up and see it so I had to wait 53 years to see it! When the doors first opened and that first girl came out I was like 'wait a minute...that's a little girl!' LOL I didn't know there would be an entire bridal party! Then when Miss Vickie first came out, I actually thought it was Jack Benny escorting her! 😂
Watched it when they aired it and a few years later went on a date to see him perform. He gave me his autograph and was so nice, asked me my name and called me Miss Rose. Sad when I heard he passed away, now I wonder what happened to Miss Vickie
@@patriciahufft3103Yeah, she was HIT by Tiny Tim for adultery, impregnated and LEFT with the child and no support, and then she skitted around through a bunch more failed marriages. “Sweet”.
@@DoctorShocktor You mean she was hit for ADULTRY, capitalization is key here, lol. Adultery is no joke, that is the biggest break of trust and love you can do. Also, you must be real fun at parties.
Back then many grown uos thought Tiny Tim was kind of a “crazy hippie” and thought he was very outrageous…. At least they did in my midwestern home town. This brings back wonderful memories. ☮️💟
People nowadays don't understand talent. When I watch reactions they call him a freak or something akin to that. Saddens me greatly. I met Tim in an airport years ago. Super kind and very friendly. And what a talent.
I thought I was the only one thinking she looked similar to Karen! I think it's the hairstyle she has in this video especially. Karen Carpenter had a similar hairstyle in some of the Carpenters videos.
This is the first time of hearing about Tiny Tim's wedding let alone on TV. I thought the ceremony was sincere and sweet. The only thing I remember is his "tip toe through the tulips.
It's really nice to see so many people writing very positively about Tiny Tim. When I first became aware of him, I thought he was just a freak, but then I watched his development and realised that he was probably a remarkable, great person. RIP
Can we please stop rewriting history? You can have your own opinion about his musical talents, but TinyTim was far from a “kind and gentle” man. Look up the Morton Downey interview where he states that he thinks he “had a right” to HIT his teen wife over adultery, and insisted on no birth control in their marriage due to him being a hardline Catholic, after which his wife has their daughter who he TOTALLY ABANDONED physically and financially. His teen wife who he married at nearly 4 years old said that the only she got out of the marriage was meeting some famous people. Not a standout fantastic individual in Tiny Tim.
@DoctorShocktor you act like that was his WHOLE personality. He made a mistake, but he also made good music that's all he'll be remembered for. That's it.
@@Wiseoldgeezer75so your only defense for beating his TEEN wife is that you enjoyed his music? That's not a very solid arguement there bud. I capitalized TEEN because I think it's creepy this dude married a TEEN even was 37. He was a creepy ephebophile loser
@@Gnarlvro I can't "sound like" anything if you haven't heard my voice. The monologues you're hearing from reading my comment come from your head, so think about that.
I remember as a kid, my mom and dad letting me stay up to watch this wedding. My dad didn't know it but, Miss Vicki is his 2nd cousin through her mom and his grandpa. He's now gone, but he would've found it funny that he allowed us kids to stay up late for this rare time. I hope the best for Vicki and her family.
I was just four days old when this happened! My folks told this story on my 25th birthday in 1994 and they were in time to see it happened because we were discharged from the hospital the day before. Want to dedicate this in memory of my parents who were new to this country at that time!
Lol he knew he was setting tiny Tim up by asking him to get married on the show, he knew how the game is played. I think allot of people played him thinking he was a type of simple fool.
Johnny took the bait. That was the intention of Herby. Herby was kinky , but he craved attention on the media . The shy, introverted character was just an act, or he would not have been in the media so much. He loved it . 😜😜😜
14:18 With all the wickedness that exists today, such a man would have been much sought after. At least, I'm a sweet girl and I love people so pure, watching this video I realized I was born in the wrong era (I'm from 2000). ❤🙏 His music is spectacular, and I downloaded a compilation dedicated to him. Wherever you are, God bless you Tiny Tim. 🙏❤️
@@DoctorShocktorTiny Tim has been dead for almost 30 years and people still talk about him and listen to his music with delight. Something tells me that when you die you won’t even be buried before people forget your name. 😂😂😂
I remember watching this live as a 14yo girl. 1969 was a HUGE YEAR in history. Chappaquiddick, Moon landing, Woodstock, Tate murders by Charlie Manson’s gang.This was a happy ending to a sad, wild year❤
@@gm12551 Yea but you need to know the backstory on that one. Ed had attended a charity event earlier that afternoon where cocktails were served. He just had one too many there and when he showed up to tape the show in the late afternoon he was a bit wasted. It was only that one time. And it was FUNNY. Johnny noticed it and they just went with it and it was hysterical. Johnny, on the other hand, was a NASTY drunk. Which is one of the main reasons he gave up drinking.
@@tracykingston9668 In Johnny's case? Let's see. His beautiful mansion on the beach at Malibu. His yacht. His car collection. I'd take all those over drinking any day! 😁
Those dresses! The late 1960s through mid 1970s really did have the greatest fashion of all time. Home decor, too. Those were the dsys. I wasn't there, but they were. If only I'd been around to revel in it all.
I remember being sort of awake to watch this live with my parents on the family TV. I was 14 and went back to bed because of school the next day. This is the first time I have seen it in color instead of black&white. I was surprised about the color of the attendants’ outfits, and then realized it was typical of the time period.
@@mariom6602 You just added 3 years to his age, but not 3 years to hers. He was 37. She was 4 months shy of her 18th birthday, and had parental consent. They had a daughter together.
I also watch The Wedding live and it was very beautiful two beautiful Spirits combining together to become one I am as happy for them now as I was then🎉♥️🌹🙏
@@BaileyHughes Priscilla was only 14 when she came to live with Elvis in Graceland. Elvis dated other women and one of his sayings was "you can't be married and be a rockstar" eventually Elvis married Priscilla.. when she was old enough. I'm a big Elvis and Lisa Marie fan too May they rest in peace 🎉🌹Amen
@@DoctorShocktor I am NOT 'rewriting' history. As I said, Ed drank socially and sure, one in a while he had one too many. But he was NOT the nasty and violent drink that Johnny was which is why Johnny eventually quit drinking altogether. It was part of the act. Like Dean Martin for instance portraying the constantly drunk alcoholic. Most people thought this was real. But in most of his performances, it was apple juice in his glass. Sure, like Ed, he drank socially like most of that generation. But he was not a drunk or an alcoholic. Although many sources state that after his son died, he DID in fact begin to drink to excess.
@@cindyoconnell2471 Shy ? LOL . They allowed it to be filmed and put on the highest watched talk show of that time. They could have got married privately if they wanted. 🤪
I guess were all just turning the other cheek that she was 17, I mean it's cool because he's a celeb right? Honestly, don't care myself but if I got on facebook as a nobody and professed my love to the world over a 17 year old the cops would be knocking at my door waiting to arrest me. Hypocrisy is great!
Johnny seemed genuinely touched. Are there any lip readers out there that can tell us what she and her dad were saying after they came through the doors?
I read something on the Internet about Miss Vicky writing an autobiography and having a blog, but I can't find anything else about a blog she runs or a book she published. Does anyone know anything about this??
I've seen Tiny Tim on the Howard Stern Show. And he was always very truthful! The man had a fantastic memory! He could remember dates and times of events and baseball players . What made Tiny Tim unique was his falsetto voice. And his personality he always told the truth.And when he spoke he was interesting.
For those of you who are saying he is a predator, in order for a person to be a predator there has to be that intent. You can't claim what was in his heart and mind, however, you can take a look at his history and reputation of countless countless people stating that he was one of the kindest, and most pure hearted men who lived a very clean life. I think some of you may need to grow up a bit, and not cast blind judgments. Those comments say more about who you are, then someone you do not even know but are claiming to know.
Didn’t know he got married. Milk and honey.. never tasted that together but I’m sure it was good together. This was such a sweet wedding to watch. Guess I’m gonna need to read up on them both. Vows taken together should be said before God, family and friends. They did just that!
Not everyone believes in a god, nor does everybody have family. So no, that's not how it "should" be. It was sweet, though. Hopefully you can learn to be more open-minded and respecting of different types of people. Take care.
The next morning people were at work talking about tiny Tim's wedding that only happens to very famous people and here was just a guy with a special talent that made thar happened
He married a 17 year old child and was known to have an affinity for young girls but there are people in the comments defending him because he’s “strange”. Ugh.
He’s Jewish. Sanhedrin 54b. A few thousand sex offenders a year get moved to Israel with no charges for their Israeli citizenship gained by Jewish heritage.
I hope you will take into consideration that only as of recently in world history has it been taboo IN AMERICA for a 17 year old to marry, whereas in many cultures, including many cultures still today, 17 is quite a respectable age to marry. In fact many merry younger than 14. Arbitrarily put the age of adulthood at 18 and now 21... for reasons, does not mean it is inappropriate.
Crazy, I was thinking the exact same thing. Dressed for a wedding, attitude for a funeral. That was one of the couple most bizarre parts of this wedding for me.
You are 100% correct. She was 17. But you also have to remember she had the approval of her father who gave her away. As for the champagne, you also have to bear in mind that 55 years ago a 17 year old taking ONE glass of champagne wasn't demonized the way it is today. Plus the drinking age was 18 back then.
@@retroguy9494Fathers don’t have the actual RIGHT to GIVE AWAY a human being, FFS, it’s just an ancient tradition based in massive sexism. Thank goodness it’s mostly gone away. She was far too young and vulnerable as proven by their later problems.
@@DoctorShocktor Well, if you can manage to cool your anger for a minute or two and put your liberalism on the back burner long enough to read this and not look at it through 21st century social attitudes, I'm going to prove you wrong. The custom of fathers 'giving away' their daughters in marriage is rooted in law and goes back before there even WAS a United States. There was a time where children, both sons and daughters were legally considered the property of their fathers. In addition, 'arranged marriages' used to be commonplace. In fact, that is still not totally abandoned in certain places and religions. Females, during this time period, and in fact until quite recently, were always considered a kind of 'property.' First of their fathers, then of their husbands and way back even the property of their sons in the case of the death of the husband. Husbands, legally, were responsible for the actions of their wives. So legally, permission was needed from the father for marriage. This ensured that 1) the legal property passed from one to another 2) it ensured a dowry was paid to the brides family 3) that the father's presence at the wedding prevented the groom from changing his mind at the last minuet and 4) to ensure the arranged marriage happened according to plan. In more modern times, if a bride was under the age of majority which was 21 and then became 18, parental permission was needed to marry and if under 16 permission from a judge was needed. Even today in many states, this is the case. Although some states, including my own which passed the law just 5 years ago, set the marriage age at 18 with no exceptions. This marriage took place in New York in 1969. The law at that time which was put in place in 1929 was that minors could marry as young as 14 with a judges permission up to 15. At ages 16 and 17, you needed parental permission. So Miss Vicki's father's permission WAS needed so in effect, he DID 'give the bride away' which was, by that time, an outdated phrase but it was still needed not withstanding. Just to let you know, in 2017, the law was changed in New York and 18 is now one of the states to make that the legal age to marry with no exceptions.
HERE IN CHILE (South America) we had a singer and composer just as "histrionic (exaggerated) as Tiny Tim and his name is Raúl "Florcita Motuda" Alarcón (that is: Raúl "Little flower Bulky" Alarcón) who has later been a representative of the republic from Chile (...I don't know how it came to be... (irony)); "Motuda" also resembles the singer of Freddie & The Dreamers (I'm telling you now) in his acting. Important songs by Florcita Motuda (see live on OTI, Festival de Viña or TV programs): "Pobrecito Mortal", "Final de Siglo", "Brevemente... gente", "Tírale un ajo", etc. (note: he sings in Spanish (our native language). Greetings from the end of the world.
@@nibsvkh A very prominent psychologist I know says there is no such thing as 'normal.' Although he had his eccentricities, Tiny Tim was a good and kind man.
The weirdest thing is 12:56. she doesn't seem totally willing, he is old and he kisses a 17-year-old girl in front of her husband saying that she is a good kisser. it disgusts me. for Tiny Tim, I don't know what to think about it, I like him a lot as an artist but some things bother me, and this marriage is one of these things, knowing that he abandoned his daughter for years afterwards. And then he started dating young girls again.. I don't want to judge but I don't think that's right. I’m having a hard time figuring out if he was a good person or not, because I know he was very different. Everyone says he was very nice but some people also said that he was very misogynic 😐 (and i think his attraction for young women is not right) maybe men in the 60s were all like that and even worst, I just know he was a good artist and I wish I could learn more about him
@@fanouchkaaa May I assume from your rant and personal belief that this was 'so wrong' that you find the early generations in the Bible equally so? Because you had all those old men who were widowed marrying girls who were between 15 and 17 years old too. Plus being in your 30's is NOT old. Its actually YOUNG. Those men in the Bible were in their 70's and 80's or even more when they remarried. So if you think THAT is wrong, then you think God is wrong. And if you think God is wrong, perhaps you should run for the job and rewrite the Bible like the emperor Constantine did at the first council of Nicaea.
How are you ever able to find this show and get it posted? There are tons of episodes of shows I'd like to see on Facebook, but how do these people get hold of them? Thank you for posting this. It was definitely kind of weird, but interesting.
By today's standards, this would be considered to be statutory rape. Hard to believe she was only 17, and he was 37. I vaguely remember this, growing up in the 60's. I'm sure some of the younger viewers think this was a gag, or staged, which I, and the rest of the old folks, can assure you, it most certainly was not. Pretty wild, huh?
Oh PLEASE Karen! She could most certainly marry today at 17 in New York (which is where this took place). She just needs parental permission. And her father DID give her away so he obviously approved!
If a 17 year old marries a man, no matter what age, in her own free will, she has every right to. Calling that rape is sexist and belittling. You can gossip about it all you want, insinuating that she doesn’t know what she is doing and that she soon will leave him, alright, do what sou want. But calling it rape is like saying she is not only making a mistake but is also way too stupid to even be accountable for mistakes.
@@joachimb5721 It's STATUTORY RAPE, and the fact that he was 20 years older than her would weigh heavily in such a case. That was over 50 years ago. Times, perspectives and laws have changed drastically in that time. And yes, LEGALLY, 17, like it or not, is still considered to be a child. Educate yourself before you make such incorrect, uninformed statements. And get some anger management counseling to help control your ranting and outbursts.
@@stellarocquie7957 How can you call that rape. She literally said "yes". And married or not, if she doesn't want to have sex with her husband, she still can say no at any time. If he still proceeds, THAT would be rape, but how do you want to know if that was the case here. And I don't know about U.S. laws (yes, I'm uneducated) but in Europe a 17-year old is not a child and I don't think it is wise to treat them as one. Humans don't switch from "completely not being able to make decisions" to "fully independent, no one decides for me" in one day. Give them more and more responsibilities over years. -- I don't know where you see outbursts and rantings. Maybe it's the way you read my comments?
This happened when I was a kid. I remember my father, who had to get up at 4:30 am to go to work. He stayed up to watch this. We were all shocked at that because he never stayed up past 10:00pm on a week night.
what year was this
@@pelonbp209The year was 1977.
@richardsmith3129 damn he was 37, and she was 17 wtf lol I'm 37
@@richardsmith3129 No, it was 1969.
I watched this live. It was a milestone in television history.
Ditto
Yeah must've been crazy watching a 37 year old predator marry a teenager
@@jigokunokishi917if you’ve seen interviews, you’d see that Tiny Tim had no predictors reasons to marry Miss Vicki, and it was common at that time period for teens in their late teens to marry much older guys
predatory*
@SophieSanwogou what you're saying it it was more acceptable to be a sexual predator at the time. Kinda like that Canadian kids gameshow host who would kiss little girls on the lips even if they didn't want him to back in the 80s. Fergie Oliver was his name. The audience laughed when he did it, but there's no denying it was a child predator
I was 10 years old at the time. My mom knew how much I wanted to see this. She woke me up and we watched it together. I had to go back to bed 'cause I had school the next day.
no way
I love memories like this. When we all had to wait for things and it made it all the more special
My dad grew up in the same neighborhood with Tiny Tim. I believe his name was Herb Khoury. My dad said he was always nice but as everyone knows, a little strange. Johnny is wonderful. So gracious. He was the best.
Khaury
Strange perhaps. But a VERY good and kind man.
@@retroguy9494Bull. Can we please stop rewriting history? You can have your own opinion about his musical talents, but TinyTim was far from a “good and kind” man. Look up the Morton Downey interview where he states that he thinks he “had a right” to HIT his teen wife over adultery, and insisted on no birth control in their marriage due to him being a hardline Catholic, after which his wife has their daughter who he TOTALLY ABANDONED physically and financially. His teen wife who he married at nearly 4 years old said that the only she got out of the marriage was meeting some famous people. Not a standout fantastic individual in Tiny Tim.
@@DoctorShocktor You keep speaking of my 'rewriting history' but it's obvious to ME that you have some pretty tainted opinions about people when it comes to women. I'd really like to know where that comes from? Do you have some personal experience with spousal abuse or were you in some way abused as a child?
When I said he was a 'good man' I was more referring to his charitable works and how he appreciated his fans. In fact, on the night he suffered his fatal heart attack he was in the middle of a song at a benefit concert for which he received no money.
I never heard about him hitting his wife. In fact, after their marriage, the mostly lived apart until they divorced. So I don't know from what credible source you obtained your information on that one.
Regarding his daughter Tulip, you say he abandoned her physically and financially. Yet, he fought for full custody of her and got it from a New York State court. This was reported by credible press sources at the time. So if anyone is 'rewriting history' it's YOU.
Finally, regarding his Catholicism and birth control, what is so bad or wrong about that? I'm Catholic myself and that has always been the position of the Catholic Church. Although Pope Paul VI DID allow the 'rhythm method' for married couples and now quiet recently, while not changing the churches official position, Pope Francis told married couples in poor South American countries that it may be better to consider birth control rather than bring children into a world of poverty and starvation. Besides, Tiny Tim only had the ONE child. Plus his wives knew he was Catholic when they married him. While I am dead set against abortion, I have no problem with birth control even as a Catholic But what is so 'wrong' in your opinion about a married man being against birth control?
His full name was Herbert Buckingham Khaury.
I've been waiting 53 years to see this. Thank you!!!
Wow.... I love the músic by this singer ... The cover stayng Alive is fancy.... Gretting s belong Papudo, Chile .
Your welcome
I wasn't born yet when the wedding happened; but I heard stories from different viewpoints. I guess Tiny Tim and Miss Vicky's backs were turned to show that their wedding was genuine and not merely publicity. From what I read, Johnny encouraged the wedding to take place on his show. If publicity was intended, I'd think it would be coming more from Johnny and the TV network--they definitely succeeded in their intentions. Thanks for uploading this in full.
I also remember watching this live. It was a school night, and I was supposed to be in bed, but I snuck out into the hallway to see it. When the ceremony was over, and they went to join Johnny, I snuck back to bed. I don’t think my parents knew, because nothing was mentioned the next morning.
It proved to me that you accept everyone is different and this guy is wonderful god bless you herbert
Finally! The whole wedding is shown! Thank you!
Tiny Tim's song to his new bride is a sensitive, lovely vow. There have been all kinds of inventive and unique wedding ceremonies. It's too bad so many people choose to watch this and then criticize the wedding as "bizarre". This was a legitimate wedding with a real minister, and Johnny Carson treated the couple with respect and dignity.
I thought that because their backs were turned during the ceremony, both Tiny and Vicky showed that they weren't taking their wedding as a publicity stunt opportunity; they were taking it sincerely. You're right, there have been all kinds of unique wedding ceremonies. I guess that because this took place in the late 1960s, people tended to see uniqueness negatively.
She was 17 and he 37. Nasty
Respect?? He kissed the bride 🤣
@GlamGal 710 In most religions ceremonies, the bride and groom have their backs turned to the crowd. Least in Catholic/Christian ceremonies I've been in or gone to. It's the same reason the guests face the front of the church. The chuch considers it rude to turn the back away from the Alter, crosses or the Jesus on the cross hangs. Which is ironic because that's what the priest/pastor does the entire time they preach or lead a ceremony(has his back to those items)
I don't think it was any more then that. Although the entire wedding was yuckie due to her age.. and his. He always skeeved me out
@Noemi Cervantes have you not been to weddings as an adult? It's common practice to kiss the bride on the cheek. Not like he slipped her the tongue 🤢
Thanks for posting this event! Being just 12 years old at the time, I was asleep as it was a school night and I missed it. Finally getting to see it at age 67 is awesome!!!❤️❤️❤️🤗🤗🤗
Almost the same age as the bride!
I remember my mother had watched this when it aired and would talk about it from time to time for some years afterward. Of course, I wasn't allowed to stay up and see it so I had to wait 53 years to see it!
When the doors first opened and that first girl came out I was like 'wait a minute...that's a little girl!' LOL I didn't know there would be an entire bridal party!
Then when Miss Vickie first came out, I actually thought it was Jack Benny escorting her! 😂
I thought the exact same thing! Well!
His voice is actually so beautiful. That song was very sweet and touching
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I stayed up to watch this, ONLY TO BE LATE, to work in the morning!! Imagine, “ the EXCUSE”, I gave, for being late!!!!
Watched it when they aired it and a few years later went on a date to see him perform. He gave me his autograph and was so nice, asked me my name and called me Miss Rose. Sad when I heard he passed away, now I wonder what happened to Miss Vickie
Miss Vicki married several more times and has settled in Tennessee with hubby on a small farm.
@@patriciahufft3103Sweet ! Glad she’s still around
@@patriciahufft3103Yeah, she was HIT by Tiny Tim for adultery, impregnated and LEFT with the child and no support, and then she skitted around through a bunch more failed marriages. “Sweet”.
@@DoctorShocktor Are you expecting men to put up with adultery and to be forced into raising kids that aren't their own?
@@DoctorShocktor You mean she was hit for ADULTRY, capitalization is key here, lol. Adultery is no joke, that is the biggest break of trust and love you can do. Also, you must be real fun at parties.
This certainly brings back the memories of a different, and in many ways, a more civilized time.
Miss Vicki didn't have any champagne because she was only 17 years old at the time of their wedding and Tiny Tim was 37.
And?
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@@dea9273 Tiny Tim knew better than to give alcohol to someone who was under the legal drinking age.
@@marvinthemaniac7698 Why are you addressing me with your comment?
@@dea9273 because you were expecting more explanation.
I just realized I am old enough to have seen this live!
Me too, scary isn't it.
Incredible how he vocalised the sound of the 1920's with the vibrato part voice part wobbly old shellac.
Incredible how so many did that with ease back in the 1920s, and it was considered a phenomenon in the seventies.
Thank you for posting this which I have never seen.
Back then many grown uos thought Tiny Tim was kind of a “crazy hippie” and thought he was very outrageous…. At least they did in my midwestern home town.
This brings back wonderful memories. ☮️💟
Kids love grown ups like Tiny Tim who break the rules.
People nowadays don't understand talent. When I watch reactions they call him a freak or something akin to that. Saddens me greatly. I met Tim in an airport years ago. Super kind and very friendly. And what a talent.
I was only 2 then, I had no idea Ms. Vicki was only 17. Nor did I know Tiny Tim was 37. Milk and honey for a wedding toast, that is different .
Miss Vicky. Not Ms.
Turn on the 'closed captions' @13:39 Carson asks Tiny Tim if he's ever had a glass of champagne. 😂
Tiny liked his beer!
Tiny Tim and Miss Vicky had honey and milk on their wedding day that was their drink.
@@Janster59 Budweiser , or gay, near beer ? 😛😛
Miss Vickie resembled Karen Carpenter. She looked so lovely!
Pero se nota que no lo quería,solo por interés y después se dedicó a desnudarse para una revista
I thought I was the only one thinking she looked similar to Karen! I think it's the hairstyle she has in this video especially. Karen Carpenter had a similar hairstyle in some of the Carpenters videos.
Believe it or not, this is the first time I've ever seen this! I've heard of it to death, but until now, I've never even seen it on any retrospective.
Me too! I remember when this happened but didn't watch it at the time. Was a teenager. Really cool to finally see it after all these years.
I remember this show. It was a beautiful wedding.
amazing wedding,,this is guy is so normal its amazing his act. He is kind and many great elements in his
soul,,Amen
Thank you for showing this
This is the first time of hearing about Tiny Tim's wedding let alone on TV. I thought the ceremony was sincere and sweet. The only thing I remember is his "tip toe through the tulips.
The wedding party looked so awkward, they disnt know what to do. Im glad we get to see it....just to say we've seen it. Historic moment non the less
Most wedding parties are like that
It's really nice to see so many people writing very positively about Tiny Tim. When I first became aware of him, I thought he was just a freak, but then I watched his development and realised that he was probably a remarkable, great person. RIP
Can we please stop rewriting history? You can have your own opinion about his musical talents, but TinyTim was far from a “kind and gentle” man. Look up the Morton Downey interview where he states that he thinks he “had a right” to HIT his teen wife over adultery, and insisted on no birth control in their marriage due to him being a hardline Catholic, after which his wife has their daughter who he TOTALLY ABANDONED physically and financially. His teen wife who he married at nearly 4 years old said that the only she got out of the marriage was meeting some famous people. Not a standout fantastic individual in Tiny Tim.
@DoctorShocktor you act like that was his WHOLE personality.
He made a mistake, but he also made good music that's all he'll be remembered for. That's it.
@@Wiseoldgeezer75so your only defense for beating his TEEN wife is that you enjoyed his music? That's not a very solid arguement there bud. I capitalized TEEN because I think it's creepy this dude married a TEEN even was 37. He was a creepy ephebophile loser
@@Wiseoldgeezer75you sound slow.
@@Gnarlvro I can't "sound like" anything if you haven't heard my voice. The monologues you're hearing from reading my comment come from your head, so think about that.
The bride was 17 when this was filmed and Tiny Tim was 37. Completely insane that this aired.
20-year age difference!
What's more insane is that such a large age gap was even acceptable then. I'm sure most people didn't notice or care back then
@@nedwart if anyone did that today, they'd be arrested.
Hahahaha, fucking wild. Such a fucked up time. 😂😂
Horrifying and then Carson insisted on kissing her and said “she’s a good kisser” to a room of laughter. 😥
I remember as a kid, my mom and dad letting me stay up to watch this wedding. My dad didn't know it but, Miss Vicki is his 2nd cousin through her mom and his grandpa. He's now gone, but he would've found it funny that he allowed us kids to stay up late for this rare time. I hope the best for Vicki and her family.
I was just four days old when this happened! My folks told this story on my 25th birthday in 1994 and they were in time to see it happened because we were discharged from the hospital the day before. Want to dedicate this in memory of my parents who were new to this country at that time!
My very first time to stay up “late” for something on television!
This particular program achieved the highest ratings in Tonight Show history
And, according to Ed McMahon, it was the most watched program of the year (second only to the Super Bowl).
LOL, kind of like the Luke and Laura of the 60's.
I watched
@@MomoTvT I think the astronauts landing on the moon for the first time had the largest audience. Second was the tiny tim wedding.
I was same age as Miss Vicki here...
17 yrs old
This is so sweet. Thx for sharing with us. i wish the "old times" were still here (sometimes) .... the people are so cold and angry now.
Miss you Johnny.
Thank you for posting 💖💖💖
You have to wonder how many people knew Tiny Tim's real name (Herbert Khaury) before this aired.
Buckingham
YEEES FINALLY!!MORE TINY TIM AND MISS VIKI PLEASE
I was 7 but I wasn’t allowed to stay up that late. Lol. Wonder why this captured America’s attention so much.
Beautiful ceremony
I loved the sweet wording of the vows they recited to each other.
Lol he knew he was setting tiny Tim up by asking him to get married on the show, he knew how the game is played. I think allot of people played him thinking he was a type of simple fool.
Johnny took the bait. That was the intention of Herby. Herby was kinky , but he craved attention on the media . The shy, introverted character was just an act, or he would not have been in the media so much. He loved it . 😜😜😜
14:18 With all the wickedness that exists today, such a man would have been much sought after. At least, I'm a sweet girl and I love people so pure, watching this video I realized I was born in the wrong era (I'm from 2000). ❤🙏
His music is spectacular, and I downloaded a compilation dedicated to him. Wherever you are, God bless you Tiny Tim. 🙏❤️
“sought after”? LMAO. He ABANDONED their child, hit her, and had two more marriages. Quite the catch.
@@DoctorShocktor Do you know that your allegations are defamatory and unfounded?
@@INDIGOTV02nah they’re true, his granddaughter spoke out against him.
@@DoctorShocktorTiny Tim has been dead for almost 30 years and people still talk about him and listen to his music with delight.
Something tells me that when you die you won’t even be buried before people forget your name. 😂😂😂
@@DoctorShocktor The " marriage" was a diversion for him and an opportunity for notoriety and affluent living for her. A joke. 😊😊😊
I remember watching this live as a 14yo girl. 1969 was a HUGE YEAR in history. Chappaquiddick, Moon landing, Woodstock, Tate murders by Charlie Manson’s gang.This was a happy ending to a sad, wild year❤
Most of it all lies to cover up truths older generation is so naive compared to today
everyone was watching this wedding when he got married, it is so different but enjoyable and he was a likable personality.
Is this Miss Vicky’s the Potato chip lady?
Being from Toronto, I was always impressed that Tim was a Maple Leafs fan! lol
I know. One of the weirder random facts I often ponder from time to time.
Ed going straight for the champagne
But it was JOHNNY who really wanted it. HE was the one with the drinking problem. Not Ed.
@@retroguy9494Also Ed: comes to work drunk
@@gm12551 Yea but you need to know the backstory on that one. Ed had attended a charity event earlier that afternoon where cocktails were served. He just had one too many there and when he showed up to tape the show in the late afternoon he was a bit wasted. It was only that one time. And it was FUNNY. Johnny noticed it and they just went with it and it was hysterical.
Johnny, on the other hand, was a NASTY drunk. Which is one of the main reasons he gave up drinking.
@@retroguy9494 He gave up a wonderful hobby ? What could he replace it with that would be more enjoyable ? 😋😋
@@tracykingston9668 In Johnny's case? Let's see. His beautiful mansion on the beach at Malibu. His yacht. His car collection. I'd take all those over drinking any day! 😁
No One during ceremony was smiling except Tiny Tim and Miss Vickie. The rest looked like they were at a funeral, in a way they were.
I was thinking the exact same thing - looked from the outside like a wedding but felt more like a funeral, especially the wedding party. Really odd.
Those dresses! The late 1960s through mid 1970s really did have the greatest fashion of all time. Home decor, too. Those were the dsys. I wasn't there, but they were. If only I'd been around to revel in it all.
U must be on drugs if u think this lols😅
I remember being sort of awake to watch this live with my parents on the family TV. I was 14 and went back to bed because of school the next day.
This is the first time I have seen it in color instead of black&white. I was surprised about the color of the attendants’ outfits, and then realized it was typical of the time period.
Congratulations to both bride and groom. And Merry Christmas!!!
I'm pretty sure they're dead now lol.
@@fairydogmother2752tiny Tim is. Miss Vicki is alive and well
Bit late on the congratulations lol
He’s dead, they’re divorced, she’s probably married again
Nonetheless, better late than never!@@mintani19
I can't stop smiling. What a wonderful memory.
Except that she's 17 he is 37
@@mariom6602 Not anymore!!! Lol!
@@dea9273 still he was marrying a 17 year old while being almost 40
@@mariom6602 You just added 3 years to his age, but not 3 years to hers. He was 37. She was 4 months shy of her 18th birthday, and had parental consent. They had a daughter together.
@@mariom6602 It was a wonderful memory for me because I was a child, and my whole family was together, sitting in the living room watching together.
I love Tiny Tim….what a sweet wedding
It is weird if he was 37 and she was 17, it makes it more weird that she was a teenager when he was dating her
I eas a kid when this happened but i can remember how EVERYONE (adults, people on tv etc) talked about this. It was a big pop culture event!!!!!!!
Great video!
Wow, i love this song he sings to Viki❤
I have never seen it. Then again I was only 8 at the time and I was playing with GI Joes and Rockets . Model cars. 🤔🥴🤣
My mom wouldn't let me stay up that night. I remember it was a huge event.
I also watch The Wedding live and it was very beautiful two beautiful Spirits combining together to become one I am as happy for them now as I was then🎉♥️🌹🙏
they’re dead..
@@TjCox1993 so are a lot of people deceased but we still watch the reruns enjoy the memories.
she was 17 and he was 37.
@@BaileyHughes Priscilla was only 14 when she came to live with Elvis in Graceland. Elvis dated other women and one of his sayings was "you can't be married and be a rockstar"
eventually Elvis married Priscilla.. when she was old enough. I'm a big Elvis and Lisa Marie fan too May they rest in peace 🎉🌹Amen
Ed’s favorite drink. Alcohol. 😵💫😳🙄🥴🤣
You know that was just a joke right? I mean, sure, he drank cocktails socially. But in reality it was JOHNNY who had the drinking problem.
@@retroguy9494 Very true. I read Johnny's bio, and his alcoholism wasn't much of a secret. Still miss him, though!
@@stellarocquie7957 True. And he was really nasty and violent when he drank too. Which, by his own admission, was the main reason he gave it up.
@@retroguy9494In reality they BOTH had alcohol problems. Try not to rewrite history.
@@DoctorShocktor I am NOT 'rewriting' history. As I said, Ed drank socially and sure, one in a while he had one too many. But he was NOT the nasty and violent drink that Johnny was which is why Johnny eventually quit drinking altogether.
It was part of the act. Like Dean Martin for instance portraying the constantly drunk alcoholic. Most people thought this was real. But in most of his performances, it was apple juice in his glass.
Sure, like Ed, he drank socially like most of that generation. But he was not a drunk or an alcoholic. Although many sources state that after his son died, he DID in fact begin to drink to excess.
Johnny Carson looks like President Bush
Surley you jest! There is no comparison whatsoever!
awww this is so cute fr❤
He was a legend
Truly a bizarre moment in TV and pop culture history. And they couldn’t even set up an angle to see their faces?
All we saw was a "rear view"! Pathetic.
I think they did that on purpose, because they were so shy!
They said they did that to prove it was real because tiny Tim didn’t want people to think that it was fake
@@alexiskaczor3510 you are correct!
@@cindyoconnell2471 Shy ? LOL . They allowed it to be filmed and put on the highest watched talk show of that time. They could have got married privately if they wanted. 🤪
I guess were all just turning the other cheek that she was 17, I mean it's cool because he's a celeb right? Honestly, don't care myself but if I got on facebook as a nobody and professed my love to the world over a 17 year old the cops would be knocking at my door waiting to arrest me. Hypocrisy is great!
17 is legal for marriage. It is lower in many states. Even into the 1980s people that young were getting married.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069Yeah, and it’s STILL not a good idea.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069I read she had to get her parents written permission to get married
2024 Anyone?
YES, Angela! One of the truly wonderful events I'm enjoying this year, without question. Just wonderful.
Too cute for Tim! How long did this last, less than a year?
8 years.
@@lorenzoblum868 5 years.
Some sources say 5 years, some say 8. It doesn't matter much any more, so just split the difference.
If we're taking bets, I'll put MY money on 12!
They were married for 8, but Miss Vicki said their relationship only really lasted for 2
Johnny seemed genuinely touched. Are there any lip readers out there that can tell us what she and her dad were saying after they came through the doors?
I was thinking the same thing
They were saying WTF are we doing here . 😛
I read something on the Internet about Miss Vicky writing an autobiography and having a blog, but I can't find anything else about a blog she runs or a book she published. Does anyone know anything about this??
Been trying to find it myself for yrs, seems there’s no such
Land of milk and honey 🍯 “winnie the Poo &Piglet”
I love Mr Tim. Loved him on Stern.
I've seen Tiny Tim on the Howard Stern Show. And he was always very truthful! The man had a fantastic memory! He could remember dates and times of events and baseball players . What made Tiny Tim unique was his falsetto voice. And his personality he always told the truth.And when he spoke he was interesting.
Can this channel add some interviews he did with the great Bette Davis??
For those of you who are saying he is a predator, in order for a person to be a predator there has to be that intent. You can't claim what was in his heart and mind, however, you can take a look at his history and reputation of countless countless people stating that he was one of the kindest, and most pure hearted men who lived a very clean life. I think some of you may need to grow up a bit, and not cast blind judgments. Those comments say more about who you are, then someone you do not even know but are claiming to know.
Jeffrey Dahmer was considered a "nice" guy by his aquaintances . LOL
Ms. Vicki was adorable.
I and my mother stayed up to watch it. Unusual because my mother never stayed up past 9:30p.m.
I remember watching this live. It was as ridiculously bizarre then as it is today.
I didn't watch it live but I also think that was bizarre!!!
Why?
How?
Jesus, people. It’s taking massive advantage of a immature minor. People today - some of them.
Didn’t know he got married. Milk and honey.. never tasted that together but I’m sure it was good together. This was such a sweet wedding to watch. Guess I’m gonna need to read up on them both. Vows taken together should be said before God, family and friends. They did just that!
Not everyone believes in a god, nor does everybody have family. So no, that's not how it "should" be. It was sweet, though. Hopefully you can learn to be more open-minded and respecting of different types of people. Take care.
@@johnball8758 so have lots of people.
Warm milk and honey is so good
@@whoareyoutoaccusemelol seems like someone struck a cord 😂 cope harder snowflake
@@whoareyoutoaccusemebud you are chronically online…
The next morning people were at work talking about tiny Tim's wedding that only happens to very famous people and here was just a guy with a special talent that made thar happened
Beautiful ❤❤
I love Jordan more and more with each passing video.
Miss Vicki wasn't old enough to toast her own wedding (17 yrs old)
She was old enough to toast just not old enough to drink alcohol
He married a 17 year old child and was known to have an affinity for young girls but there are people in the comments defending him because he’s “strange”. Ugh.
He’s Jewish. Sanhedrin 54b. A few thousand sex offenders a year get moved to Israel with no charges for their Israeli citizenship gained by Jewish heritage.
CHILD? She was literally 3 months shy of turning 18. Guys were going off to fight in Vietnam at her age at that time.
I hope you will take into consideration that only as of recently in world history has it been taboo IN AMERICA for a 17 year old to marry, whereas in many cultures, including many cultures still today, 17 is quite a respectable age to marry. In fact many merry younger than 14. Arbitrarily put the age of adulthood at 18 and now 21... for reasons, does not mean it is inappropriate.
@@rogerhuffmanjr.7695 Sanhedrin 54b and Tim was Jewish. Epstein, Saville etc.
@@dea9273 he met her months prior, she had to be either 16 or fresh 17 when they met.
What year was this? I only remember it took place in the 70s
1969
Cute puppy!!!!
Dec 17th 1969.
I watched it I was14/15 I belive 14 though we all watched dad cussed all the way through it 😂😂😂
Did we just see Phyllis Diller"s underwear in 12:31?
😄 peekaboo
The bridesmaids and groomsmen, look like they are at a Funeral!
😁👍
Crazy, I was thinking the exact same thing. Dressed for a wedding, attitude for a funeral. That was one of the couple most bizarre parts of this wedding for me.
I’m not sure but if I remember correctly she was 17? Someone want to tell me if that’s right or not?
She was 17, he was 37.
Guess maybe that’s why she didn’t drink the champagne?
You are 100% correct. She was 17. But you also have to remember she had the approval of her father who gave her away. As for the champagne, you also have to bear in mind that 55 years ago a 17 year old taking ONE glass of champagne wasn't demonized the way it is today. Plus the drinking age was 18 back then.
@@retroguy9494Fathers don’t have the actual RIGHT to GIVE AWAY a human being, FFS, it’s just an ancient tradition based in massive sexism. Thank goodness it’s mostly gone away. She was far too young and vulnerable as proven by their later problems.
@@DoctorShocktor Well, if you can manage to cool your anger for a minute or two and put your liberalism on the back burner long enough to read this and not look at it through 21st century social attitudes, I'm going to prove you wrong.
The custom of fathers 'giving away' their daughters in marriage is rooted in law and goes back before there even WAS a United States. There was a time where children, both sons and daughters were legally considered the property of their fathers. In addition, 'arranged marriages' used to be commonplace. In fact, that is still not totally abandoned in certain places and religions. Females, during this time period, and in fact until quite recently, were always considered a kind of 'property.' First of their fathers, then of their husbands and way back even the property of their sons in the case of the death of the husband. Husbands, legally, were responsible for the actions of their wives. So legally, permission was needed from the father for marriage. This ensured that 1) the legal property passed from one to another 2) it ensured a dowry was paid to the brides family 3) that the father's presence at the wedding prevented the groom from changing his mind at the last minuet and 4) to ensure the arranged marriage happened according to plan.
In more modern times, if a bride was under the age of majority which was 21 and then became 18, parental permission was needed to marry and if under 16 permission from a judge was needed. Even today in many states, this is the case. Although some states, including my own which passed the law just 5 years ago, set the marriage age at 18 with no exceptions.
This marriage took place in New York in 1969. The law at that time which was put in place in 1929 was that minors could marry as young as 14 with a judges permission up to 15. At ages 16 and 17, you needed parental permission. So Miss Vicki's father's permission WAS needed so in effect, he DID 'give the bride away' which was, by that time, an outdated phrase but it was still needed not withstanding. Just to let you know, in 2017, the law was changed in New York and 18 is now one of the states to make that the legal age to marry with no exceptions.
Carlson enjoyed making fun of Tiny, and couldn't pass up the opportunity to film the wedding live.
Ratings and $$$$$ is the bottom line to entertainers. Giddyup.
I love how Christ is magnified and glorified in the vows!
This was very sweet of them but it sure is giving me some dark shadows vibes!!! (dresses)😂
I remember watching this episode as a kid.
HERE IN CHILE (South America) we had a singer and composer just as "histrionic (exaggerated) as Tiny Tim and his name is Raúl "Florcita Motuda" Alarcón (that is: Raúl "Little flower Bulky" Alarcón) who has later been a representative of the republic from Chile (...I don't know how it came to be... (irony)); "Motuda" also resembles the singer of Freddie & The Dreamers (I'm telling you now) in his acting.
Important songs by Florcita Motuda (see live on OTI, Festival de Viña or TV programs): "Pobrecito Mortal", "Final de Siglo", "Brevemente... gente", "Tírale un ajo", etc. (note: he sings in Spanish (our native language).
Greetings from the end of the world.
This is weird ,
And YOU'RE so normal!
@@retroguy9494
One doesn’t need to be normal to see how extremely weird was Tiny Tim.
@@nibsvkh A very prominent psychologist I know says there is no such thing as 'normal.'
Although he had his eccentricities, Tiny Tim was a good and kind man.
The weirdest thing is 12:56. she doesn't seem totally willing, he is old and he kisses a 17-year-old girl in front of her husband saying that she is a good kisser. it disgusts me. for Tiny Tim, I don't know what to think about it, I like him a lot as an artist but some things bother me, and this marriage is one of these things, knowing that he abandoned his daughter for years afterwards. And then he started dating young girls again.. I don't want to judge but I don't think that's right. I’m having a hard time figuring out if he was a good person or not, because I know he was very different. Everyone says he was very nice but some people also said that he was very misogynic 😐 (and i think his attraction for young women is not right) maybe men in the 60s were all like that and even worst, I just know he was a good artist and I wish I could learn more about him
@@fanouchkaaa May I assume from your rant and personal belief that this was 'so wrong' that you find the early generations in the Bible equally so? Because you had all those old men who were widowed marrying girls who were between 15 and 17 years old too. Plus being in your 30's is NOT old. Its actually YOUNG. Those men in the Bible were in their 70's and 80's or even more when they remarried. So if you think THAT is wrong, then you think God is wrong. And if you think God is wrong, perhaps you should run for the job and rewrite the Bible like the emperor Constantine did at the first council of Nicaea.
How are you ever able to find this show and get it posted? There are tons of episodes of shows I'd like to see on Facebook, but how do these people get hold of them? Thank you for posting this. It was definitely kind of weird, but interesting.
Sorry I meant to say UA-cam not Facebook..
By today's standards, this would be considered to be statutory rape. Hard to believe she was only 17, and he was 37. I vaguely remember this, growing up in the 60's. I'm sure some of the younger viewers think this was a gag, or staged, which I, and the rest of the old folks, can assure you, it most certainly was not. Pretty wild, huh?
Oh PLEASE Karen! She could most certainly marry today at 17 in New York (which is where this took place). She just needs parental permission. And her father DID give her away so he obviously approved!
If a 17 year old marries a man, no matter what age, in her own free will, she has every right to. Calling that rape is sexist and belittling. You can gossip about it all you want, insinuating that she doesn’t know what she is doing and that she soon will leave him, alright, do what sou want. But calling it rape is like saying she is not only making a mistake but is also way too stupid to even be accountable for mistakes.
@@joachimb5721 It's STATUTORY RAPE, and the fact that he was 20 years older than her would weigh heavily in such a case. That was over 50 years ago. Times, perspectives and laws have changed drastically in that time. And yes, LEGALLY, 17, like it or not, is still considered to be a child. Educate yourself before you make such incorrect, uninformed statements. And get some anger management counseling to help control your ranting and outbursts.
@@stellarocquie7957 How can you call that rape. She literally said "yes". And married or not, if she doesn't want to have sex with her husband, she still can say no at any time. If he still proceeds, THAT would be rape, but how do you want to know if that was the case here. And I don't know about U.S. laws (yes, I'm uneducated) but in Europe a 17-year old is not a child and I don't think it is wise to treat them as one. Humans don't switch from "completely not being able to make decisions" to "fully independent, no one decides for me" in one day. Give them more and more responsibilities over years. -- I don't know where you see outbursts and rantings. Maybe it's the way you read my comments?
Her parents gave consent so it was all legal. No statutory rape here.
I wasn't born yet when his wedding aired on The Tonight Show. All I know is that this happened the same year my parents eloped.