God bless Flood...out of all Producers hes my favorite, fransoia Kervorkian was my favorite mixer..and Alan Wilder was best assistant Mixer/Producer/engineer
Everyone knows Depeche Mode or U2, but if you mention his name, most people just look clueless. His work is incredible and I wish there would be a video where he tells some stories about his work with PJ Harvey and plays some bits and pieces or albums like Is This Desire.
I mostly know him from Node, a group of producers making long improvised Berlin School-inspired tracks with modular synths. A bit different from DM, but with some definite overlap, and some really amazing music.
Producers are so underrated. DM fans worship Alan Wilder. I'm sure he is good. However, I feel Flood deserves more credit than he gets for the sound of Violator and SOF&D. Flood also produced Erasure's The Circus, which I think is a classic and one of their best albums.
@@jeshkam dave Boscombe said in a recentish interview he felt he was more of an engineer for MFTM rather than producer, the album was the nearest DM got to self production
We worship Alan Wilder because there is big distinction between when he was in DM and when he left. It is night and day and he worked his tail off to give us the best of DM. The rest of the members are lazy and just aren’t interested in the engineer and production portion of the process. So many things missing in DM now like that classically trained touch Mr Wilder has.
He’s a producer where, you can definitely hear his mark on a track. Check out ‘Daddy’s Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car’ by U2.. there’s a synth lead in there that slides in like an evil acid trip. Brilliant. Sounds a little like the 1st NIN album, which makes perfect sense considering that Flood produced that too.
What Flood try to tells us politely is it's him who realised the masterpiece VIOLATOR of DM along with Alan Wilder (who wrote in the shade a serious amount of songs...) No wonder VIOLATOR 2 never happened !
On what basis do you say Wilder wrote a serious amount of songs for this album? Oh and both Flood and Wilder were present for the following album and it wasn't Violator 2. I doubt they even wanted to make Violator 2.
@@redplague he said “wrote in the shade” which means adding instrumental ambiance, mixing, creating new sounds, adding soul, adding depth… but keeping the melodies from Gore’s songs.
Xavier, Xavier, Xavier. Flood was the producer for Songs of Faith and Devotion too. Also one of their best selling albums. And if you knew anything about ANY band, you'd know few ever want to do an 2 as a follow up. Get over it pal.
@@2112jonr you know what? In 1984 Some Great Reward was their best selling album then came Black Celebration which took over then Music for the masses then Violator which was by far their best selling album up to that time… then like you said SOFAD took over and was their height. And after that nothing came close. What do we have in common… the Alan Wilder era was their best. Dave and Martin admits Alan was greatly appreciated and missed.
What exactly is the difference between Dave’s way of doing vocals and Flood’s? The only difference is that usually they would have recorded many takes and comp them? But what Flood explained of the way they did Personal Jesus, is that they only recorded 3-4 takes of Dave and comped them?
Having less takes meant that they had less chance of a getting the vocals absolutely perfect, meaning a more energetic sounding vocal in Flood's words.
'Trad' Style: Make like 20 takes, each meant to be material in a pool to pick from, then comp any line (or word, or syllable) and for each, take the best. His style: Make a couple of takes, each meant to be THE take, pick the best take as a whole, then only fix/replace single moments that are obviously not good.
well well well..i can't understand what he's trying to do here..taking all the credits?? ..yes he did a great job alongside Alan...but the demos were still from Martin...Daniel Miller,Gareth Jones,Dave Bascombe did the same things before Mr Flood ..upgrading Martin's demos...under the supervision of Alan ...but what great albums did you produce after Songs of faith and devotion??? Some might say that DM lost their magic after Alan left but as a DM fan i think and still like what they did even after Alan left . Ultra is a great album and i truly think Tim Simenon had more work to do on Ultra than Flood had on Violator and SOFD.
Yeah, but SoFaD was the last great DM album. Ultra did well, but only because the previous album was such a good one. They definitely went downhill after Alan left, and that's from a Wilder non-fanboi. Get used to it, he was the most musically talented member of the band.
@@2112jonr ultra and playing the angel were great albums. People just don't want to accept it but not everything before wilder's exit was a masterpiece. There are some ok songs in MFTM, Black celebration and other albums. Martin gore literally wrote and created all the iconic sound that you hear today with his demos. People just sympathize with alan Wilder because he was treated badly. Not because he created all the sound.
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it’s amazing how the audience can be quiet during this presentation… i’d be wowing and ooohing nonstop. incredible man flood is
Amazing to know how they came up with the sounds. Thanks for posting!
I could listen to him talk about music endlessly.
God bless Flood...out of all Producers hes my favorite, fransoia Kervorkian was my favorite mixer..and Alan Wilder was best assistant Mixer/Producer/engineer
"François"
I learned who flood was reading the back of New Order, Depeche Mode, nitzer ebb and NIN sleeves in the 80s/90s
A good example of Producer, Band and Songwriters all collaborating.
Imagine the sound banks he has collected from the bands hes produced over the years.
Everyone knows Depeche Mode or U2, but if you mention his name, most people just look clueless. His work is incredible and I wish there would be a video where he tells some stories about his work with PJ Harvey and plays some bits and pieces or albums like Is This Desire.
I mostly know him from Node, a group of producers making long improvised Berlin School-inspired tracks with modular synths. A bit different from DM, but with some definite overlap, and some really amazing music.
@@wellurban I'll check them out :)
he talks about the PJ Harvey album a little bit in the Game Changing podcast episode he did
Producers are so underrated. DM fans worship Alan Wilder. I'm sure he is good. However, I feel Flood deserves more credit than he gets for the sound of Violator and SOF&D. Flood also produced Erasure's The Circus, which I think is a classic and one of their best albums.
Agreed 100%. Same with Dave Bascombe, Gareth Jones and Tim Simenon.
And Mellon Collie by the Smashings and Zooropa by U2
@@jeshkam dave Boscombe said in a recentish interview he felt he was more of an engineer for MFTM rather than producer, the album was the nearest DM got to self production
@@Lawtasaj Engineering is nearly as important as producing music.
We worship Alan Wilder because there is big distinction between when he was in DM and when he left. It is night and day and he worked his tail off to give us the best of DM. The rest of the members are lazy and just aren’t interested in the engineer and production portion of the process. So many things missing in DM now like that classically trained touch Mr Wilder has.
He’s a producer where, you can definitely hear his mark on a track. Check out ‘Daddy’s Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car’ by U2.. there’s a synth lead in there that slides in like an evil acid trip. Brilliant. Sounds a little like the 1st NIN album, which makes perfect sense considering that Flood produced that too.
What Flood try to tells us politely is it's him who realised the masterpiece VIOLATOR of DM along with Alan Wilder (who wrote in the shade a serious amount of songs...)
No wonder VIOLATOR 2 never happened !
On what basis do you say Wilder wrote a serious amount of songs for this album? Oh and both Flood and Wilder were present for the following album and it wasn't Violator 2. I doubt they even wanted to make Violator 2.
SoFAD wasn’t Violator 2, but it was LEGENDARY
@@redplague he said “wrote in the shade” which means adding instrumental ambiance, mixing, creating new sounds, adding soul, adding depth… but keeping the melodies from Gore’s songs.
Xavier, Xavier, Xavier. Flood was the producer for Songs of Faith and Devotion too.
Also one of their best selling albums.
And if you knew anything about ANY band, you'd know few ever want to do an 2 as a follow up.
Get over it pal.
@@2112jonr you know what? In 1984 Some Great Reward was their best selling album then came Black Celebration which took over then Music for the masses then Violator which was by far their best selling album up to that time… then like you said SOFAD took over and was their height. And after that nothing came close. What do we have in common… the Alan Wilder era was their best. Dave and Martin admits Alan was greatly appreciated and missed.
Found the second part 😊
Terrible public. Flood is amazing.
There's nothing wrong with the audience.
@@jeshkam exactly
they are listening, retard.
HE'S MAD!!!!
should have had a lapel microphone
What exactly is the difference between Dave’s way of doing vocals and Flood’s? The only difference is that usually they would have recorded many takes and comp them? But what Flood explained of the way they did Personal Jesus, is that they only recorded 3-4 takes of Dave and comped them?
Having less takes meant that they had less chance of a getting the vocals absolutely perfect, meaning a more energetic sounding vocal in Flood's words.
'Trad' Style: Make like 20 takes, each meant to be material in a pool to pick from, then comp any line (or word, or syllable) and for each, take the best.
His style: Make a couple of takes, each meant to be THE take, pick the best take as a whole, then only fix/replace single moments that are obviously not good.
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Flood is terrible at laptops :)
They need to get back with Flood, the last 3 albums have been mostly shi*
This is only your opinion......
@@srfnma6813 Flood makes everything better though.
SRF NMA I agree
@@srfnma6813 Not only his...
Fair comment, anyone who thinks the last couple of albums are any good is kidding themselves
ok so flood produced it and on the circuit.who wrote and sang on the song?i think and know that flood was handsobly paid.why sarcastic about,no idea.
damn right
Well, he's British.
Sarcasm is widely considered a sign of intelligence in Britain. Please pay attention.
well well well..i can't understand what he's trying to do here..taking all the credits?? ..yes he did a great job alongside Alan...but the demos were still from Martin...Daniel Miller,Gareth Jones,Dave Bascombe did the same things before Mr Flood ..upgrading Martin's demos...under the supervision of Alan ...but what great albums did you produce after Songs of faith and devotion??? Some might say that DM lost their magic after Alan left but as a DM fan i think and still like what they did even after Alan left . Ultra is a great album and i truly think Tim Simenon had more work to do on Ultra than Flood had on Violator and SOFD.
I hear you. It's unbelievable the amount of Alan Wilder fanboys there are on every video giving him far more credit than he's due.
@@redplague Agreed. Waste of space in the comment sections.
Yeah, but SoFaD was the last great DM album. Ultra did well, but only because the previous album was such a good one. They definitely went downhill after Alan left, and that's from a Wilder non-fanboi. Get used to it, he was the most musically talented member of the band.
@@2112jonr ultra and playing the angel were great albums. People just don't want to accept it but not everything before wilder's exit was a masterpiece. There are some ok songs in MFTM, Black celebration and other albums. Martin gore literally wrote and created all the iconic sound that you hear today with his demos. People just sympathize with alan Wilder because he was treated badly. Not because he created all the sound.
@abhilashpandok ok songs on those albums??? Are u on drugs??😅
How can you be this unprepared when giving a talk? Love the content, but maddening.
I was thinking the same. Unprepared and not a great story teller
Flood is allowed to do anything. He is a genius 😎
im a hardcore DM fan but Im not a big fan of Personal Jesus
Why
I bet you like What's Your Name though. 🙄😆
@@mistrergalaxis2275 you gotta really love personal jesus to the point of mortification lol
"but... but... why? just why?"