Really enjoy your channel. While it is very important to test the 0-60 mph, it is almost always unnecessary and unattainable in city driving before we are behind a slow car. I think you should consider adding the following times in seconds to your reviews: 1. Test 0-40 mph (city driving off a red light) 2. Test 40-55 mph (passing cars in city) 3. Test 65-80 mph (passing on highways)
I've been meaning to buy the Tucson PHEV SEL for months. But, it is barely available (none available within 250 miles) and marked up in price. Oh, well. I guess my old car will still do fine.
It was on our list too to check out, but none available where we're at. We went with the Bolt EUV instead. Wish the Tucson was offered in all-electric with everything else the same as it is.
I thought Hyundai was great until my mother bought a Tucson and after 2,000 miles the fuel pump failed. The dealer she took it to refused to fix it under warranty, saying there was diesel in the line. After checking every gas station she went to, pulling receipts and clearly showing proof that diesel was never put into the car, they still refused. Then they stopped answering calls and went completely silent while in possession of her car. Finally they said she could either pay out of pocket or contact her insurance provider to fix the issue. Hyundai corporate was zero help at all. Dealerships represent the brand, and because of how it was represented, I’ll never buy a Hyundai
I think the Tucson PHEV is an excellent entry into the PHEV segment, I think the interior is better than the RAV4 Prime, the RAV4's interior feels a little more rugged and truck-like, while the Tucson interior is definitely more luxurious but I think the RAV4 is better at being a PHEV than the Tucson, it has more EV range and its more efficient, which I believe is what matters the most in a PHEV and its also significantly faster while also being able to two about 500lbs more than the Tucson. The Tucson is definitely a solid competitor but it's hard to beat the RAV4 at being a PHEV. Another huge benefit of the RAV4 is that it has a heat pump which is better for anyone that lives in cold climates
@@wolfshanze5980 I actually don't own a RAV4, I dint think I can bring myself to buy a crossover, I was just stating the basic facts from what I know about both cars 😂
I have the Kia Sportage PHEV. My only complaints is that I can’t tell what triggers the changes in hybrid modes and highway fuel economy isn’t great, my best was 33mpg after 200 miles on the highway. Love the thing otherwise.
The electric motor in both the standard Hybrid and the PHEV Tucson is connected to the _input_ of the transmission, literally right on the _output_ of the combustion engine. So it is required to apply torque through the transmission. I agree that the Toyota/Ford method - the "Power Split Device" as Toyota named it before Ford started calling it an ECVT (ugh) - is superior for Hybrid applications. All things being equal, the Toyota/Ford system is much better at effective regenerative breaking, and are extremely simple. I'd bet money that their drivetrains will last longer than that of the Tucson. The Tucson's 1.6L is also unfortunately only direct fuel injected. This leads to inevitable carbon buildup in an area of the engine that has to eventually be disassembled and cleaned. Hyundai has yet to add a temporary port fuel injector to the 1.6L (yet another clever solution from Toyota), which is frustrating since they obviously know about this problem - their 3.5L V6 already has this feature. So the 1.6L here is going to need regular "carbon cleanings" every 30 to 40 thousand miles. Still, the base and SEL Convenience trims of the Hybrid Tucson offer a *lot* of car for the money.
Thanks for the review! I’m trying to build a Limited online but the “gray” interior offered on their site looks darker and and not as nice as the one you reviewed. Any specifics about the gray available? Thanks!
The Rav4 prime has the range and speed but feels way more like an economy car inside. I would look at the math very hard when comparing this to the regular HEV. It will makes sense for some but not for others. If you use 30 miles of EV on average for 300 days a year that is 9k miles of EV usage. Financially this would save about $500 a year as a guess. This is not bad but not awesome. If you drive less than that the numbers do not makes sense IMO.
Did you say at around 4:50min in the video. That the N line version was NOT an option in the plugin hybrid version? Its the direct opposite. Its only on the plugin hybrid you can have the n Line variant
Nope... you're wrong... he's in America, and he's reviewing American options. Hyundai offers different drive trains in different countries... in America, the N-Line is only offered with a 2.5L gas only engine. If you care to share what country YOU live in, than we can discuss the drive train options for the Tucson in your country. Hyundai offers a large variety of different engine options depending upon which country they sell it in.. not all countries have the same engine options or configurations.
I really really hope that they make this car more powerful and quicker. As he said the 6 speed automatic is holding it back. I have the limited non PHEV and it's slow!!
Hi Sofyan, Thanks for this great video. In fact, I'm shopping for a new hybrid SUV or PHEV, I like the Mazda brand and its ''premium'' side and I don't know if I should wait for the Cx 50 hybrid or I'll buy the Tucson. Knowing that I like the premium side in a car, can you advise me to buy a tucson or wait for a hybrid cx50 ? Thanks
My dad have been really wanting to look at this. But unfortunately they don’t sell the plug in hybrid Tucson. Where we live in SC. Not even in NC or GA. It’s a shame because we live in between NC and GA.
It’s frustrated at how this is available in so few states. It seems like a perfect option for me, assuming Hyundai solves the fire risk issue plaguing so many of their models. I didn’t see if this one was included. I’ll probably look at the regular hybrid Tucson when my current lease is up, though loan and lease rates for Hyundai seem a bit higher than I’d like.
It's not a fire risk... the fire risks are tied directly to only two things... #1 if you have the 2.4L Theta Engine (this has been out of production for some time and is in NOTHING remotely current) #2 if you have an OEM Wiring Harness for certain model tow hitches (assuming you even got the OEM tow hitch to begin with, which few do). Simply remove/replace the tow hitch wiring harness, not an integral part of any car, completely optional, and removable in like 15 minutes. Once again, you had to get a tow harness in the first place, and it has to be OEM from Hyundai on certain models (not all)... an after-market tow hitch harness is also a valid option and immune to the recall. Neither of the above issues have anything to do with the current Tucson lineup. This is how idiots on message boards who don't have a clue what they're talking about scare legitimate people interested in a Hyundai into assuming ALL Hyundai's burst into flames... neither of the above issues effect any current Tucsons, the Theta engine problem is only for older models, and of all the "tow hitch wiring harness" issues... literally only ONE harness in thousands has actually caught fire... Hyundai's aren't bursting into flames all over the place, that's what Internet trolls want you to think... trolls will be trolls. I hope that clears it up, plz ignore (and dont feed) the trolls! ;-)
Charging door needs to be in front of the driver's door, or the front. Hard to access the door while the car is parked in the garage when the charge door is at the back right. It's also a lot easier to see that the car is plugged in when it is on the front or left when you are approaching the driver's door.
Oh no, I compared Rav4 Prime vs Tucson PHEV and the regular hybrids for months. Toyota knows how to squeeze more money from people with the Venza and Lexus products. Top 2 factors as to why people still want the RAV4 1) The RAV4 Prime can run the HVAC w/o running the engine for much longer because it has a heat pump. The Tucson does not have a Heat Pump so it will always run the Engine for alittle bit once it gets chilly. 2) While RAV4's reliabilty is not guaranteed. Cablegate and recall the original fuel tank issue. The Hyundai Kia group is getting sued left and right with the class action lawsuit that includes the Gamma I 1.6 non turbo engine. The HEV and PHEv Tucson's 1.6T Gamma II engine, its still too early to tell if it will suffer the same oil consumption issue, or the fact it is turbo, and is Direct inj., you run the risk oil dilution issues.
I am not sure how they calculated the Total MPG for this one! if this has 13.8 KWh that allow it to drive 33 miles then 13.8/33.7 * 33 should be the MPGe which is around 13.5 miles (max). add this to the 35 MPG (max for gas) gives you 48.5 miles per gallon. unless the regenerative is considered and the fact that the gas engine is charging the battery but 80! not really sure if that would be true. By the way for those who would ask where did the 33.7 KWh come from .. this is required battery capacity to generate hear equivalent to burning 1 gallon of gas (which generated 115k BTU)
Of course you realize they are a big company and pray you don't understand their figures besides they all lie through their teeth about everything they think they can get away with.
The MPGe figure doesn’t mean anything, and should only be used in comparison with other PHEVs. The kWh capacity and the range per kWh should be your main concerns. Just for comparison’s sake, my Cayenne S E-hybrid has a MPGe rating of 43, and its battery size is only 10.6kWh, and the range is only 15miles. So Tucson’s 80 MPGe sounds about right.
@@Riley_1955You do realize the car companies don’t come up with their own numbers, right? It’s the EPA…and they have some standard test procedures. Now, that doesn’t mean it translates to the real world well, but don’t blame the manufacturers.
Exactly! What none of these reviewers ever mention when they put out videos on these vehicles are they are only available in the ZEV states. Not all brands do, but the Hyundai group and Toyota/Lexus do, among others. It's really something that all reviewers need to be mentioning!
So few are sold, that it's almost on paper only AND they are marked-up. Too few are produced. I guess they try to concentrate on their bread-and-butter trims and the dealers take advantage to profit.
Good review. However, I understand the Tucson PHEV does not have a heat pump like the RAV4 Prime (I can't confirm this). If that is the case and you live in the North or Canada, then you may well find that the engine is going to be kicking in regularly which means you could be better off with the Hybrid. We own a 2022 Tucson Blue and love it. We average 38 mpg in SW FLA, with a combination of 4 lane and stop start commutes. Our only complaint is the very long throttle travel before the car moves forward. We also own a Camry Hybrid and confirm the Hyundai's braking system is much better than Toyota, who can't seem to get over the dead brake pedal issue when you go from electric to disc braking. The Tucson also handles really well for an SUV.
I Got a regular HEV Tucson but my Bro in law has the PHEV. I can confirm, the Tucson uses the ICE pretty often once its chilly. Also, Rav4 prime lets you choose to hold the battery charge/ICE only mode to force charge OR EV mode only.... if you need that level of control. Both cars are good, but both have compromises.
the bad thing is this PHEV is not as efficient as a full EV. 13.5kw battery for 33 miles is pretty bad, even more if you include the energy lost via converting AC to DC which on its own would put around 14.5kw each time you charge it to your electricity bill.
This isn't correct. It has a 13.8 kWh battery but only the top c. 82% - ie 11.3 kWh are normally charged by the charger. The remaining c. 2.5kWh are kept in reserve for the car to run as a self charging hybrid when it has run out of plug in juice. Also the range of 33 miles is extremely conservative. Mine averages 38 miles on a charge and has done 42 on several occasions.
@@johnhorrocks7978 I had a monitor attached to the charger that told me how much juice it was taking each time to charge up and it always told me more than 14kw using the 120v included charger 🤷♂️
This will be a dumb question....probably. So, this is a hybrid, right? What if you didn't live in a house where you could plug it in. What would that mean for that person? Is the plug in part just the ability to give you that complete electric 35 miles? It would still utilize the electric motor the same, when it is being used in the hybrid times, right?
But I wish it had, along with the analog gauge look, a digital speedometer. I prefer cars that do. Also, this transmission keeps this vehicle from being quicker. I know a lot of people hate the CVT, but they do a much better job at keeping the engine/motor in a good powerband.
And Europeans can order their Tuscon in two tone coloring, which I really like. But the European version is much shorter in length and a delivery wait of over a year. I ordered my PHEV version in January and do not expect to get it this year 😴
Never like PHEV cars, I would rather buy a fully electric car, either way, both need to plug in, why not just buy an EV to save gas 100%, plug a quicker acceleration, now this PHEV doesn’t have tax credit available, it makes the regular hybrid more appealing.
EV versions of the same car are more expensive and if your daily drive to work is within the EV limit of your PH, it gets a bit less obvious to chose for the EV version. A matter of personal circumstances I guess.
@@arjen9104 if you daily drives 30 miles or less, and sometimes do road trips in the weekends, then it would be perfect for PHEV, but if you do 99.99% city driving, then it’s better to buy an EV, because in PHEV, you can’t just do EV mode driving all the time, gas has be used sometimes, you still have to do oil change and all that, PHEV can be as expensive as EV, I would rather just get fully electric Vehicle, I guess it fits my daily driving, I rarely drives on highway. EV can be expensive, but as long as that EV qualifies for federal tax credit, then it’s not too expensive. This Tucson PHEV unfortunately doesn’t qualify for tax credit, so it is about 5K more than regular Tucson hybrid, at this price difference, regular hybrid is the way to go.
Canada also uses “gas”/“gasoline”. I don’t recall the details but it originated with a fuel used for lamps in Dublin in the 1800s called Cazeline and someone else selling the same product called it Gazeline. I don’t know of exactly how that term came to the US and became the normal term for fuel.
For the price of this you can get a U.S.-built 2023 VW ID.4 pure electric AND it gets the $7,500 tax credit. You didn’t mention the extremely limited availability of the Tucson PHEV. A big turn off is the very lackluster performance in EV mode. Get a little spirited with the accelerator and the gas engine kicks on. So “33 miles” electric range is only if you drive like grandma.
This is extremely misleading. The BASE model ID4 is the same price at the FULLY loaded Tucson. You would be losing out on a ton of features and luxury if you get a base model ID4. If you truly want to compare the fully loaded trims of both, the ID4 is over $10k more expensive than this. Tucson is a far better value.
@@eBikify take off the tax credit and it gets a lot closer. If you never drive more than 33 miles (slowly) the “fuel” costs would be comparable. Start putting gas in the Tucson and a real EV’s long-term savings pull well ahead.
Thanks a lot to the government for making electrification much more in reach to the middle income hyundai drivers by making it ineligible for any tax credits. Real big help there, Joe. Great work.
it's probably me, but I find these sunglasses very annoying and distracting. Furthermore, I don't like people talking to me when I can't see their eyes. Like I said...it's probably me..
@@naveenthemachine how come ? Does the Tucson has a stronger engine than rav4 ? Is gas Tucson more efficient than rav4 ? Is hybrid Tucson better than hybrid rav4 ? Is phev Tucson more efficient than phev rav4 ?? Can Tucson tow more than rav4 ? Most importantly is Tucson more reliable than rav4 ??
Luggage capacity and other measurements - might wanna also mention the equivalent in metrics also. HOW MANY LITRES bro??? There's more than just US standard metrics. Think global cause that's your target audience. Centimeters, Litres etc. ! Killing me with your feed and cubic meters.
Really enjoy your channel.
While it is very important to test the 0-60 mph, it is almost always unnecessary and unattainable in city driving before we are behind a slow car.
I think you should consider adding the following times in seconds to your reviews:
1. Test 0-40 mph (city driving off a red light)
2. Test 40-55 mph (passing cars in city)
3. Test 65-80 mph (passing on highways)
Great review so far! Hyundai is killing it with their models. This Tucson PHEV looks pretty great!
Great review! Bought this for the wife and she loves it. She actually average on her daily 66mile commute 57mpg from exhausting the battery.
I wonder what's the cost for replacing the battery.
@@joek1353 Bet it is at least 5-10k. Though it depends where it is located.
@@karsaorlong4391 it's only 8k for the giant battery in my car... Tucson battery isn't even half the size
How often does the battery need to be replaced?
I've been meaning to buy the Tucson PHEV SEL for months.
But, it is barely available (none available within 250 miles) and marked up in price. Oh, well. I guess my old car will still do fine.
It was on our list too to check out, but none available where we're at. We went with the Bolt EUV instead. Wish the Tucson was offered in all-electric with everything else the same as it is.
"Nearly 20 years ago..."
Oh God, I'm old.
Mine gets 38 miles of electric range most of the time and has hit 42 on several occasions. So 33 miles is a very conservative claim!
I thought Hyundai was great until my mother bought a Tucson and after 2,000 miles the fuel pump failed. The dealer she took it to refused to fix it under warranty, saying there was diesel in the line. After checking every gas station she went to, pulling receipts and clearly showing proof that diesel was never put into the car, they still refused. Then they stopped answering calls and went completely silent while in possession of her car. Finally they said she could either pay out of pocket or contact her insurance provider to fix the issue. Hyundai corporate was zero help at all. Dealerships represent the brand, and because of how it was represented, I’ll never buy a Hyundai
Which dealership?
@@cactuscanine3531 Gerald Hyundai in North Aurora, IL
When was this?
What year
I think the Tucson PHEV is an excellent entry into the PHEV segment, I think the interior is better than the RAV4 Prime, the RAV4's interior feels a little more rugged and truck-like, while the Tucson interior is definitely more luxurious but I think the RAV4 is better at being a PHEV than the Tucson, it has more EV range and its more efficient, which I believe is what matters the most in a PHEV and its also significantly faster while also being able to two about 500lbs more than the Tucson. The Tucson is definitely a solid competitor but it's hard to beat the RAV4 at being a PHEV. Another huge benefit of the RAV4 is that it has a heat pump which is better for anyone that lives in cold climates
Spoken like a true owner of a Rav4.
@@wolfshanze5980 I actually don't own a RAV4, I dint think I can bring myself to buy a crossover, I was just stating the basic facts from what I know about both cars 😂
Good. I do prefer the interior shot to be done by sofyan himself
Me too
I have the Kia Sportage PHEV. My only complaints is that I can’t tell what triggers the changes in hybrid modes and highway fuel economy isn’t great, my best was 33mpg after 200 miles on the highway. Love the thing otherwise.
What was your avg speed on that 200mile trip?
@@rohitnijhawan5281 About 72mph
The electric motor in both the standard Hybrid and the PHEV Tucson is connected to the _input_ of the transmission, literally right on the _output_ of the combustion engine. So it is required to apply torque through the transmission. I agree that the Toyota/Ford method - the "Power Split Device" as Toyota named it before Ford started calling it an ECVT (ugh) - is superior for Hybrid applications. All things being equal, the Toyota/Ford system is much better at effective regenerative breaking, and are extremely simple. I'd bet money that their drivetrains will last longer than that of the Tucson. The Tucson's 1.6L is also unfortunately only direct fuel injected. This leads to inevitable carbon buildup in an area of the engine that has to eventually be disassembled and cleaned. Hyundai has yet to add a temporary port fuel injector to the 1.6L (yet another clever solution from Toyota), which is frustrating since they obviously know about this problem - their 3.5L V6 already has this feature. So the 1.6L here is going to need regular "carbon cleanings" every 30 to 40 thousand miles.
Still, the base and SEL Convenience trims of the Hybrid Tucson offer a *lot* of car for the money.
Any plans to cover the '23 Kia Sportage PHEV? It's very similar to this Tucson PHEV (same platform) but it's got some feature distinctions.
I think it doesn’t comes with heat pump, rest all good
Almost 1 million!
Thanks for the review! I’m trying to build a Limited online but the “gray” interior offered on their site looks darker and and not as nice as the one you reviewed. Any specifics about the gray available? Thanks!
The Rav4 prime has the range and speed but feels way more like an economy car inside. I would look at the math very hard when comparing this to the regular HEV. It will makes sense for some but not for others. If you use 30 miles of EV on average for 300 days a year that is 9k miles of EV usage. Financially this would save about $500 a year as a guess. This is not bad but not awesome. If you drive less than that the numbers do not makes sense IMO.
true.. but with tax credit, you save another 7 grand
You need to recheck the definition of MPGe.
Better than Sportage PHEV and rav4 PHEV ??
This is my dream vehicle! Nice job Sofyan.
Dream better
NPC vehicle
Great review but no mention about the extensive safety tech and convenience features. Those alone deserve a lengthy review.
Bought one brand new, a week later the amp went out. No sound coming from any media. Parts on back order
looks amazing🔥🔥🔥🔥 saw one today
Did you say at around 4:50min in the video. That the N line version was NOT an option in the plugin hybrid version?
Its the direct opposite. Its only on the plugin hybrid you can have the n Line variant
Nope... you're wrong... he's in America, and he's reviewing American options.
Hyundai offers different drive trains in different countries... in America, the N-Line is only offered with a 2.5L gas only engine.
If you care to share what country YOU live in, than we can discuss the drive train options for the Tucson in your country.
Hyundai offers a large variety of different engine options depending upon which country they sell it in.. not all countries have the same engine options or configurations.
I believe the ground clearance for all AWD versions of the Tucson is 8.3 inches.
I really really hope that they make this car more powerful and quicker. As he said the 6 speed automatic is holding it back. I have the limited non PHEV and it's slow!!
Dude, I didn't see the car in the intro because I was staring at your quads....
The Plain Hybrid you tested did the 0-60 at 6.8 seconds?
I was going to say the same thing😊
Does the PHEV self charge? Does it always require to be charged by plugging it in? Thank you
All this technology like dang the competition cannot compete.
The Japanese especially. Except for Honda. Honda has a chance.
Japanese cars are still better made. Hyundai and kias are nice, but they don’t hold up as well over time.
@@thomas735 Uh If they don't hold up over time, then why do we still see 2000s hyundai and kias on the road then? Please explain.
@@maga6319 you don’t, those are Hondas your seeing not Hyundais
@@thomas735 I know what i'm seeing. Both Hyundais and Hondas. Please stop being confused by both badges.
Very Nice Bro! Get Good People!
Engine oil dilution and several other problems on these units. Look up for Hyundai TSB 23-EE-002H
What's the consensus with reliability with these new KIA's and HYUNDAIS?
Greaat review does anyone know if while the engine is running it can charge the battery up again like my volt did? Thanks
Good review but has Hyundai fixed the Inverter coolant fault?
Hi Sofyan,
Thanks for this great video. In fact, I'm shopping for a new hybrid SUV or PHEV, I like the Mazda brand and its ''premium'' side and I don't know if I should wait for the Cx 50 hybrid or I'll buy the Tucson. Knowing that I like the premium side in a car, can you advise me to buy a tucson or wait for a hybrid cx50 ?
Thanks
Best Hyundai sold today. If you can find one that is.
Too many ads ruin this video. Also mention fuel rating in litres/100.
My dad have been really wanting to look at this. But unfortunately they don’t sell the plug in hybrid Tucson. Where we live in SC. Not even in NC or GA. It’s a shame because we live in between NC and GA.
The dealership cant order one in for you?
Thanx for placing the rear seats down to show space
beautiful looking car
I was wondering how the long the transmission lasts in these vehicles, but the car looks great though!
Transmission has 100,000 mile warranty
Just got mine today after this review my local dealer happened to have one in stock😅I couldn't help myself lol
What type of tax rebate is on it?
It’s frustrated at how this is available in so few states. It seems like a perfect option for me, assuming Hyundai solves the fire risk issue plaguing so many of their models. I didn’t see if this one was included. I’ll probably look at the regular hybrid Tucson when my current lease is up, though loan and lease rates for Hyundai seem a bit higher than I’d like.
It's not a fire risk... the fire risks are tied directly to only two things...
#1 if you have the 2.4L Theta Engine (this has been out of production for some time and is in NOTHING remotely current)
#2 if you have an OEM Wiring Harness for certain model tow hitches (assuming you even got the OEM tow hitch to begin with, which few do). Simply remove/replace the tow hitch wiring harness, not an integral part of any car, completely optional, and removable in like 15 minutes. Once again, you had to get a tow harness in the first place, and it has to be OEM from Hyundai on certain models (not all)... an after-market tow hitch harness is also a valid option and immune to the recall.
Neither of the above issues have anything to do with the current Tucson lineup. This is how idiots on message boards who don't have a clue what they're talking about scare legitimate people interested in a Hyundai into assuming ALL Hyundai's burst into flames... neither of the above issues effect any current Tucsons, the Theta engine problem is only for older models, and of all the "tow hitch wiring harness" issues... literally only ONE harness in thousands has actually caught fire... Hyundai's aren't bursting into flames all over the place, that's what Internet trolls want you to think... trolls will be trolls. I hope that clears it up, plz ignore (and dont feed) the trolls! ;-)
Does it have an electric heater like the new Niro Phev?
How is something a "gimmick" when it does what exactly it's supposed to do?
Charging door needs to be in front of the driver's door, or the front. Hard to access the door while the car is parked in the garage when the charge door is at the back right. It's also a lot easier to see that the car is plugged in when it is on the front or left when you are approaching the driver's door.
Gotto put a Plug on the Palisade or Telluride. Come on Hyundai!
Turn signals in the bumper 👎👎
Heard of any issues regarding the turn signals being near the bumper? Didn't think so
Great review. Is there any major difference in Tucson phev 2022 compared to Tucson phev 2021?
I think it is crazy it doesn't have parallel parking assist
Not sure why the driving range is a thing with 98 percent of the population
BEST BUY IN THE SEGMENT
When I compare the level of refinement this has vs a Rav4.. I question the mental health of the shoppers
You like screens lol... I get it😅
Certainly, the RAV4 is not refined.
@@MDKN22 if it had the v6 then it would be a different story
The Tuscon is way more refined than the rav4. But I will say a Camry v6 or Avalon v6 are much more refined
Oh no, I compared Rav4 Prime vs Tucson PHEV and the regular hybrids for months. Toyota knows how to squeeze more money from people with the Venza and Lexus products.
Top 2 factors as to why people still want the RAV4
1) The RAV4 Prime can run the HVAC w/o running the engine for much longer because it has a heat pump. The Tucson does not have a Heat Pump so it will always run the Engine for alittle bit once it gets chilly.
2) While RAV4's reliabilty is not guaranteed. Cablegate and recall the original fuel tank issue. The Hyundai Kia group is getting sued left and right with the class action lawsuit that includes the Gamma I 1.6 non turbo engine. The HEV and PHEv Tucson's 1.6T Gamma II engine, its still too early to tell if it will suffer the same oil consumption issue, or the fact it is turbo, and is Direct inj., you run the risk oil dilution issues.
Are you saying you would go with the regular hybrid over the plugin if you are a more "spririted" driver?
It will make really no difference. Neither are for spirited drivers. Nothing in this class is IMO.
The regular hybrid is actually faster
Nice
Don't be picky, the touch buttons are so responsive and nice
No one noticed the legs on Sofyan has more mpg than the car
@RedlineReviews Which do you prefer between the Tucson and Sportage?
I am not sure how they calculated the Total MPG for this one! if this has 13.8 KWh that allow it to drive 33 miles then 13.8/33.7 * 33 should be the MPGe which is around 13.5 miles (max). add this to the 35 MPG (max for gas) gives you 48.5 miles per gallon. unless the regenerative is considered and the fact that the gas engine is charging the battery but 80! not really sure if that would be true.
By the way for those who would ask where did the 33.7 KWh come from .. this is required battery capacity to generate hear equivalent to burning 1 gallon of gas (which generated 115k BTU)
Of course you realize they are a big company and pray you don't understand their figures besides they all lie through their teeth about everything they think they can get away with.
The MPGe figure doesn’t mean anything, and should only be used in comparison with other PHEVs. The kWh capacity and the range per kWh should be your main concerns. Just for comparison’s sake, my Cayenne S E-hybrid has a MPGe rating of 43, and its battery size is only 10.6kWh, and the range is only 15miles. So Tucson’s 80 MPGe sounds about right.
@@Riley_1955You do realize the car companies don’t come up with their own numbers, right? It’s the EPA…and they have some standard test procedures. Now, that doesn’t mean it translates to the real world well, but don’t blame the manufacturers.
Great car, too bad they only sell them in a handful of states in the US.
Exactly! What none of these reviewers ever mention when they put out videos on these vehicles are they are only available in the ZEV states. Not all brands do, but the Hyundai group and Toyota/Lexus do, among others. It's really something that all reviewers need to be mentioning!
So few are sold, that it's almost on paper only AND they are marked-up.
Too few are produced. I guess they try to concentrate on their bread-and-butter trims and the dealers take advantage to profit.
Double A 10:45 MCO.
yea, here the rav4 is 55k E and the Tucson is just 40k E
Good review. However, I understand the Tucson PHEV does not have a heat pump like the RAV4 Prime (I can't confirm this). If that is the case and you live in the North or Canada, then you may well find that the engine is going to be kicking in regularly which means you could be better off with the Hybrid. We own a 2022 Tucson Blue and love it. We average 38 mpg in SW FLA, with a combination of 4 lane and stop start commutes. Our only complaint is the very long throttle travel before the car moves forward. We also own a Camry Hybrid and confirm the Hyundai's braking system is much better than Toyota, who can't seem to get over the dead brake pedal issue when you go from electric to disc braking. The Tucson also handles really well for an SUV.
I Got a regular HEV Tucson but my Bro in law has the PHEV. I can confirm, the Tucson uses the ICE pretty often once its chilly.
Also, Rav4 prime lets you choose to hold the battery charge/ICE only mode to force charge OR EV mode only.... if you need that level of control.
Both cars are good, but both have compromises.
Do you get a tax rebate on the Tuscon Blue like you get on the Tuscon PHEV?
Hopefully they offer a full electric soon.
Too bad the Hyundai forgot to make a 2.5T variant as that would be the one to get excited about.
These plug-in hybrids are ridiculously heavy this and the RAV4 prime are 4000+ pounds
Batteries are not light.
the bad thing is this PHEV is not as efficient as a full EV. 13.5kw battery for 33 miles is pretty bad, even more if you include the energy lost via converting AC to DC which on its own would put around 14.5kw each time you charge it to your electricity bill.
This isn't correct. It has a 13.8 kWh battery but only the top c. 82% - ie 11.3 kWh are normally charged by the charger. The remaining c. 2.5kWh are kept in reserve for the car to run as a self charging hybrid when it has run out of plug in juice.
Also the range of 33 miles is extremely conservative. Mine averages 38 miles on a charge and has done 42 on several occasions.
@@johnhorrocks7978 I had a monitor attached to the charger that told me how much juice it was taking each time to charge up and it always told me more than 14kw using the 120v included charger 🤷♂️
Only 1 available in entire LA Metro area and dealer wants $9k over MSRP LOL.
This will be a dumb question....probably. So, this is a hybrid, right? What if you didn't live in a house where you could plug it in. What would that mean for that person? Is the plug in part just the ability to give you that complete electric 35 miles? It would still utilize the electric motor the same, when it is being used in the hybrid times, right?
But I wish it had, along with the analog gauge look, a digital speedometer. I prefer cars that do.
Also, this transmission keeps this vehicle from being quicker. I know a lot of people hate the CVT, but they do a much better job at keeping the engine/motor in a good powerband.
If you don't plug it in, you can use at as a regular hybrid but it won't be as efficient as a regular hybrid.
Yes, 100%. so unless you can plug it in at work, its better to just get the regular Hybrid.
I'm sure you can plug it in at home using a regular outlet but it takes 10 hours.
@@Scotty_B123 I live in an apartment. I think this wouldn't be the vehicle for me at this time.
Of course I get a Buick ad
European version has Peasent Blockers sun shades in the back..... C'mon!
And Europeans can order their Tuscon in two tone coloring, which I really like. But the European version is much shorter in length and a delivery wait of over a year. I ordered my PHEV version in January and do not expect to get it this year 😴
Never like PHEV cars, I would rather buy a fully electric car, either way, both need to plug in, why not just buy an EV to save gas 100%, plug a quicker acceleration, now this PHEV doesn’t have tax credit available, it makes the regular hybrid more appealing.
EV versions of the same car are more expensive and if your daily drive to work is within the EV limit of your PH, it gets a bit less obvious to chose for the EV version. A matter of personal circumstances I guess.
@@arjen9104 if you daily drives 30 miles or less, and sometimes do road trips in the weekends, then it would be perfect for PHEV, but if you do 99.99% city driving, then it’s better to buy an EV, because in PHEV, you can’t just do EV mode driving all the time, gas has be used sometimes, you still have to do oil change and all that, PHEV can be as expensive as EV, I would rather just get fully electric Vehicle, I guess it fits my daily driving, I rarely drives on highway. EV can be expensive, but as long as that EV qualifies for federal tax credit, then it’s not too expensive. This Tucson PHEV unfortunately doesn’t qualify for tax credit, so it is about 5K more than regular Tucson hybrid, at this price difference, regular hybrid is the way to go.
I think it does have the tax credit on it
I'll take a 6 speed over a cvt any day.. cvt has no balls. 6 speed just feels better..
Surprised with the 400 miles of range on a tank, kind of low for. Plug-in Hybrid😞
No tax credit for Hyundai, which makes this a pass..
Well there’s no tax credit for Toyota either
@@naveenthemachine At this price might as well buy an EV.
Why is petrol referred to as “gas” in the US ?? doesn’t make sense because it is not gas! It’s petrol!!
Canada also uses “gas”/“gasoline”. I don’t recall the details but it originated with a fuel used for lamps in Dublin in the 1800s called Cazeline and someone else selling the same product called it Gazeline. I don’t know of exactly how that term came to the US and became the normal term for fuel.
@@kubi0461 Yiuve educated me there Kevin, I’m from Dublin and didn’t know this… 🙄
This car is +10000$ in last 2 years 🎉😅
The Honda 2023 CRV EX took 10 seconds to hit 60 mph 😅
Maybe compare apples to apples?
What’s the Tuscan gas version 0-60?
Hybrid version 0-60?
CR-V hybrid did 0-60 in low to mid 7.
Too expensive. You could buy a bmw or Audi for that price lol
now you're complaining? LOL you ppl just can't make up your mind.
@@maga6319 45k is too much for a Tucson man
@Jonathan A true!
looking not good for Kia with huge mark up at their dealership.
Used to have some honest opinion, now is just all praising.
where is the new RAV4 ..........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For the price of this you can get a U.S.-built 2023 VW ID.4 pure electric AND it gets the $7,500 tax credit. You didn’t mention the extremely limited availability of the Tucson PHEV. A big turn off is the very lackluster performance in EV mode. Get a little spirited with the accelerator and the gas engine kicks on. So “33 miles” electric range is only if you drive like grandma.
This is extremely misleading. The BASE model ID4 is the same price at the FULLY loaded Tucson. You would be losing out on a ton of features and luxury if you get a base model ID4. If you truly want to compare the fully loaded trims of both, the ID4 is over $10k more expensive than this. Tucson is a far better value.
@@eBikify take off the tax credit and it gets a lot closer. If you never drive more than 33 miles (slowly) the “fuel” costs would be comparable. Start putting gas in the Tucson and a real EV’s long-term savings pull well ahead.
I have the gas version. Im just wondering if I should sell the gas one since they are forcing the ev crap on us.
Yes. The government jack booted thugs will be at your home soon to drag you to a dealership and force you to buy a plug-in vehicle 🙄
@@Hogtown1986 just you wait and see. More power to you for now!
They = zombies of some sort? In your nightmares?
@@michaels3003 yes, zombies keep me up at night😂
Thanks a lot to the government for making electrification much more in reach to the middle income hyundai drivers by making it ineligible for any tax credits. Real big help there, Joe. Great work.
You are right. Supporting American companies is great work.
@@michaels3003 they aren't eligible either a lot of the time.
I’ll never own anything Hyundai, Kia or Genesis ever again! Garbage!
Doesn't make sense financially.
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it's probably me, but I find these sunglasses very annoying and distracting. Furthermore, I don't like people talking to me when I can't see their eyes. Like I said...it's probably me..
In compact suv category everything is pointless in front of Rav4 !!
Btw this Tucson is the sexiest compact suv among all
Other way around. The rav4 is pointless in front of the tuscon
@@naveenthemachine how come ?
Does the Tucson has a stronger engine than rav4 ?
Is gas Tucson more efficient than rav4 ?
Is hybrid Tucson better than hybrid rav4 ?
Is phev Tucson more efficient than phev rav4 ??
Can Tucson tow more than rav4 ?
Most importantly is Tucson more reliable than rav4 ??
@@ibrahimbashir6634 the tuscon is better looking, nicer interior, much higher quality materials, excellent fit and finish, state of the art tech.
@@ibrahimbashir6634 the rav4 reliability is a solid B. Not as good when it used to be.
Now Korean cars has better styles than German cars, and almost as reliable as Japanese cars, seems great
Luggage capacity and other measurements - might wanna also mention the equivalent in metrics also. HOW MANY LITRES bro??? There's more than just US standard metrics. Think global cause that's your target audience. Centimeters, Litres etc. ! Killing me with your feed and cubic meters.
Those LED running light looks hideous at night.
"nobody buys plug in hybrids to go fast" - stupid statement.
This Tucson does not go 82 mph on EV mode. The RAV4 Prime does.