The music in Rhulk when you go for DPS is among the greatest musical boss scores ever written in the game I think they left the warts doing a ton of damage as a reward for simply doing it legit.
@@kaievans2607Nah she’s literally easy, lfgs are gonna get stuck on caretaker and planets. The whole no cheese riven crowd really wants to pretend rivens an actual difficult encounter. When in reality she’s just as easy legit as she is to 1 room.
I don't think that's the case. You get a high score just by doing the run from the beginning, with no checkpoint, because it gives you the other scores of every other encounter.
idk if my team was just locked in but riven and nez were both really fun encounters for us to run, and also still challenging. they actually did so well with both encounters and tbh is how they should be in the base raids
The precision with which you play blows my mind. Every one of these encounters took teams I was a part of at best a few attempts and at worst upwards of 18 cumulative hours.
I did the first week, realized I wasn’t having any fun sweating with LFGs and waiting around for people to join, so I just didn’t do the following weeks. As someone who knows how to raid but doesn’t have a team I can go without this. To all who suffered in LFG to do this, I salute you.
I’m the exact same, slowly farming out zaoulis red borders on golg runs, really unfortunate the solo experience is so bad in this game, feels like being punished cause the other people in your group didn’t do their homework
Same. I know all mechanics. Done all raids. Got all the stuff I can get from every raid--most of them LFG. Its pain cause I still have no motivation to dive into this without an established team.
This just means you haven't put in the work to find people and make a team. You should've been doing it for weeks leading up to now, but hindsight is 20/20. It's not impossible to find like-minded, team-less players. There are three responding to this comment, alone.
Took 7 hours with a pretty stacked lfg. Probably an unpopular opinion but they need to bring the riven changes to regular raid, it feels so much more rewarding. I bet when not on contest you can brute force a one phase with 6 syntho's behemoths anyway.
Nah, i'm 100% on board with this. I understand not wanting to put tormentors into everything normally and maybe the Rhulk changes are a bit much for normal mode, but most other changes are great and the encounters would benefit a lot from them, Riven and Nezarec most of all.
hey man, I’ve honestly never played Destiny and just stumbled across your channel and realized that you’re improbablyunemployed from back in the BO2 days. Happy to see the success that you’ve had over the last decade with Destiny, but I’ll never forget those map awareness and control vids from way back in day. Cheers!
Just finished my full plat run. Amazing experience (having a good team helped), riven legit wasn’t bad or as horrible as a I remember, and Nez was a great improvement over original RON. Hope to see the return of this with more changes and bosses!
So many people did him day 1 and the week is contest mode so it should feel very similar, I think people are just too used to normal Ron being a cakewalk
Did week 2,3 and four with the same LFG we are now a clan and going into TFS raid. Finally a fun group I resonate with. Keep looking guardians you’ll find cool people
Cringe if true, I got absolutely hard carried through my first last wish run by a few speedrunners and it made me realise how doable raids are, I wanted to be like them and help others in future…ruining the experience for new players sounds good too though
@w1zz0k12 Imagine thinking teaching new players how to do Riven legit on their first clear ruins the experience for them. You're the cringe one here, bro. Just look at how RoN being Carry Newbies: The Raid has absolutely decimated the lfg scene because it taught new players they can just say "I'm on add clear" with a bad loadout and get carried. THAT'S ruining people's raid experiences.
Just finished this up on discord lfg. Took about 3 hours. Planets and Rhulk definitely remain the hardest encounters here, the new ones really aren't that bad.
The absolutely wild thing is that planets is the hardest part of this for LFG groups (if the team hasn’t done legit riven or practiced it in the weeks leading up to this)
@@theSixPathsOfTrains Bungie made it so Pantheon Riven can’t be baked like pretty much everyone has been doing it for years, so now everyone has to learn how to do the encounter.
@@theSixPathsOfTrains they gave her resistance on the first and second floor so that you can’t one phase her with anything to my knowledge. I think the best strategy before was 6 behemoth titans and that doesn’t work now so I don’t think there will be anything that one phases her in pantheon
Well done Datto & team. I'm watching from the sidelines hoping to get my first clear of Pantheon (despite trying every week) I really hope you guys get the world first Witness clear.
I gotta say Bungie really did something amazing with Pantheon, most fun I've had playing D2 in years. Somehow, after vowing I wouldn't I've just preordered final shape. Dammit I love this game.
I hope we get a pantheon variant that is just non-boss encounters. We could have LW Vault, Vow Gauntlet/First encounter, DSC Security, Crota first encounter, Queenswalk, KF Totems, DSC Descent, and probably one of the GoS encounters. I think that would be fun if Pantheon was on a GM nightfall deal, why they come in during the last five weeks of each episode.
@DattoDoesDestiny what's your build for Nez?? I'm serious cuz I'm the only titan in the team w/out other characters developed and today is my last chance to do it. Solar titan doesn't "tick the box".
Had an issue with an lfg group on last week’s pantheon, we only managed to pass Golgoroth before one guy rage quit our second attempt at caretaker, and the others bailed right after.
kinda unrelated but how many shots does it take to proc shot caller and does it matter if i'm trying to proc it with a hand cannon or an auto rifle for example?
Do you need to do the quest in order to get another exotic selector? Or can you repeat Panethon per character and still get a exotic selector without quest?
so does datto actually not do good dps? his teammates just cook so much, that he's able to just tractor him and do super? Or is that setup actually have nutty dps? Im the only titan in my friend group so I'm looking for some good setups for these -20 modes
Literally all the Riven changes are just "here's some adds to toss you up and damage reduction to force Riven Legit." Somehow Riven legit is on par with second Rhulk and instant kill tornadoes being everywhere on Macrocosm.
so me and my buddies were able to one phase Atraks with parasite and 3 thunder crash then lament to the end, how come you guys werent able to? genuine question
I’m legitimately so pissed pantheon goes away in final shape, nobody’s willing to do it with slightly less experienced players and I only ended my destiny break 3 weeks prior to the end
doing all 4 pantheons reminded me just how much i enjoy doing hard raids in this game. really wish master raids had new mechanics like pantheon did but thats just wishful thinking
I think bungie know at this point they have to. People haven't cared about master raids, like ever honestly? Seeing all this positive reception for pantheon has to have them changing how they make master raids.
0:00 Golgoroth
6:26 Caretaker
13:52 Explicator
22:30 Atraks
27:11 Oryx
35:10 Rhulk
44:25 Riven
52:02 Nezarec
Thank you! 🫡
“Thresh offhand strike glock and balls” sounds like a Jez roll right there
Sounds like a Jez roll that he wouldn’t understand why Datto said it was trash. “It’s not good?! What do you meeeeean?” 😂😂
The music in Rhulk when you go for DPS is among the greatest musical boss scores ever written in the game
I think they left the warts doing a ton of damage as a reward for simply doing it legit.
Shout out to all LFG groups trying and failing this one
Especially those who haven't learned Riven legit. I plan on learning to do that before I go into Pantheon this week.
Riven is an LFG nightmare
Waiting for that one bs guy to be like - ☝️🤓 “ehhh actually my lfg team got it done in 30min”
LFG’d the first week. Got stuck at planets for 4 hours, decided not to continue the next week. Honestly a great thing for my mental health
@@kaievans2607Nah she’s literally easy, lfgs are gonna get stuck on caretaker and planets. The whole no cheese riven crowd really wants to pretend rivens an actual difficult encounter. When in reality she’s just as easy legit as she is to 1 room.
8:55 glimmer goblin
Datto really stopped what he was doing for a second just to get that tiny amount of glimmer lol
S tier comment
Personally id rethink everything if someone said this about me
63 glimmer😂
Haha to be fair it did look like a ammo brick till he was on it. 🤣🤦🏻♂️🤣 at the munters that think he was glimmer mining ⛏️
Datto Challenge: put a SINGLE reload mod on your gauntlets so your hand cannon takes less than 3 business days to reload
This was a BLAST to run. Especially Rhulk and Nez's dps phases being so chaotic. Really hope we get a similar boss in the new raid.
This final pantheon is just one banger encounter after another. Literally the most fun content we’ve had in a long time imo
Planets has not been fun…
@@thebhoy8561when you have a terrible team with terrible loadout sense yeah, but it’s genuinely so simple but lfg folks just suck
@lazeatscrayons2426 i just find planets really boring. I would've preferred taniks
@@NoSmoke1 dude Taniks is soooooo damn boring, arguably one of the worst and easiest boss encounters
@@NoSmoke1 they def could’ve chosen a better encounter tho, just anything other than taniks lol
You don’t need platinum time on Nez you get over 500K pts just from all the ads and killing him.
I don't think that's the case. You get a high score just by doing the run from the beginning, with no checkpoint, because it gives you the other scores of every other encounter.
Facts u done, just completed it rn
@@sauceinmyface9302 no you get well over 500K points at Nez alone without platinum time
Do we need platinum time ti get hight score on nez
@@SHINJIIII605 no as long as you get 500K pts you’re golden
idk if my team was just locked in but riven and nez were both really fun encounters for us to run, and also still challenging. they actually did so well with both encounters and tbh is how they should be in the base raids
Cannot wait to see all LFG posts in the future say: “Must be Godslayer”
Can't wait to die in easy content with my godslayer title, Godslayer btw
The wait is over in the day 1 D2 LFG channel. They’ll be checking RR as well.
Makes me think of the “must have xx grimoire score” days
The precision with which you play blows my mind. Every one of these encounters took teams I was a part of at best a few attempts and at worst upwards of 18 cumulative hours.
I did the first week, realized I wasn’t having any fun sweating with LFGs and waiting around for people to join, so I just didn’t do the following weeks. As someone who knows how to raid but doesn’t have a team I can go without this. To all who suffered in LFG to do this, I salute you.
I’m the exact same, slowly farming out zaoulis red borders on golg runs, really unfortunate the solo experience is so bad in this game, feels like being punished cause the other people in your group didn’t do their homework
Same. I know all mechanics. Done all raids. Got all the stuff I can get from every raid--most of them LFG.
Its pain cause I still have no motivation to dive into this without an established team.
Pray for my sanity, because LFG be praying on its downfall 😢
I did week 1 though 3 got a friend doing week 4 for me lol
This just means you haven't put in the work to find people and make a team. You should've been doing it for weeks leading up to now, but hindsight is 20/20. It's not impossible to find like-minded, team-less players. There are three responding to this comment, alone.
Took 7 hours with a pretty stacked lfg. Probably an unpopular opinion but they need to bring the riven changes to regular raid, it feels so much more rewarding. I bet when not on contest you can brute force a one phase with 6 syntho's behemoths anyway.
Both Riven and Nez changes need to be applied to the regular raid. It makes the encounters so much more satisfying.
Agreed
Nez plate changes should occur and keep the rest as a pantheon thing
What dps options did you use throughout the encounters?
Nah, i'm 100% on board with this. I understand not wanting to put tormentors into everything normally and maybe the Rhulk changes are a bit much for normal mode, but most other changes are great and the encounters would benefit a lot from them, Riven and Nezarec most of all.
Dude did this faster than it takes me to find a team
faster than it takes for us to decide who's taking gaze...
hey man, I’ve honestly never played Destiny and just stumbled across your channel and realized that you’re improbablyunemployed from back in the BO2 days. Happy to see the success that you’ve had over the last decade with Destiny, but I’ll never forget those map awareness and control vids from way back in day. Cheers!
Just finished my full plat run. Amazing experience (having a good team helped), riven legit wasn’t bad or as horrible as a I remember, and Nez was a great improvement over original RON.
Hope to see the return of this with more changes and bosses!
I’ve never had so much fucking trouble on survivability than Nezarec. I thought he would be a cakewalk but oh lord was I wrong.
So many people did him day 1 and the week is contest mode so it should feel very similar, I think people are just too used to normal Ron being a cakewalk
@@Changingtestingday 1 nez was two maned. Your right but I also think this is harder tbh.
@@simplyfitness892 it’s easier, surges + shotcaller. You’re doing like 45% more damage than day 1 teams
@@th9986 have u seen the changes they made its definitely not easier there is no good place to dps from you kinda need someone to bait him
@@gamezech2882 Mechanical changes are easy/quick to adapt to, surges + shot caller make it not even the same ballpark, this is WAY easier than Day 1
Did week 2,3 and four with the same LFG we are now a clan and going into TFS raid. Finally a fun group I resonate with. Keep looking guardians you’ll find cool people
*me breakdancing in the corner cause I force people to do Riven Legit on their first Last Wish clear*
Cringe if true, I got absolutely hard carried through my first last wish run by a few speedrunners and it made me realise how doable raids are, I wanted to be like them and help others in future…ruining the experience for new players sounds good too though
@w1zz0k12 Imagine thinking teaching new players how to do Riven legit on their first clear ruins the experience for them. You're the cringe one here, bro. Just look at how RoN being Carry Newbies: The Raid has absolutely decimated the lfg scene because it taught new players they can just say "I'm on add clear" with a bad loadout and get carried. THAT'S ruining people's raid experiences.
@@w1zz0k12 If anything teaching a cheese ruins the experience of a raid.
I do the same. Love this encounter, glad to see people finally experiencing it
@@w1zz0k12 Teaching players how to do the raid ruins it for them? What???
dattos tractor shots were always so timely and clean
Just finished this up on discord lfg. Took about 3 hours. Planets and Rhulk definitely remain the hardest encounters here, the new ones really aren't that bad.
I hope the Pantheon sticks around as a sort of recurring event, maybe featured for a month once a year. It's the most fun I had in Destiny in a while.
All these years later the Oryx fight is just a master class in design.
This has solidified my love for rhulk and riven, and my hate for nezarec
riven was a joke lmao, nez was harder
@@Blanktester685 anyone who had done legit riven previously knew she would be a joke. It only would have been a problem if she had like 5x the health
The absolutely wild thing is that planets is the hardest part of this for LFG groups (if the team hasn’t done legit riven or practiced it in the weeks leading up to this)
This pantheon was the first time i killed riven legit. Real happy with the changes made and wish it was the same in regular last wish.
Cue bungie shadow patching these changes with the final shape update.
Can you not just do the old strategy? Did they fix it?
@@theSixPathsOfTrains Bungie made it so Pantheon Riven can’t be baked like pretty much everyone has been doing it for years, so now everyone has to learn how to do the encounter.
@@GM-lx7ji
So you can still do the trick then?
@@theSixPathsOfTrains they gave her resistance on the first and second floor so that you can’t one phase her with anything to my knowledge. I think the best strategy before was 6 behemoth titans and that doesn’t work now so I don’t think there will be anything that one phases her in pantheon
34:55 the duality of the D2 experience...
Took 11 hours, but finally got my Godslayer through lfg groups. I’m so pumped. Never changing the emblem or taking the title off.
I feel that bro
Well done Datto & team. I'm watching from the sidelines hoping to get my first clear of Pantheon (despite trying every week)
I really hope you guys get the world first Witness clear.
I gotta say Bungie really did something amazing with Pantheon, most fun I've had playing D2 in years. Somehow, after vowing I wouldn't I've just preordered final shape. Dammit I love this game.
Riven also takes like 99% reduced damage on bottom 2 floors
29:43 Dint know why but i just love the tim8ng of that soundtrack
They've just first-tried everything but Rhulk (1h) and Nezarec (40m). Gigachads. Great job guys!)
Hoping to see you drag Jez and Danielle kicking and screaming through Nezzy pantheon. Congrats dude, clean af run
Shoutout my crew, day one RON made us hungry for more challenge, now we’re Godslayers
I honestly hope that they ship the riven and nezzy changes to the normal versions of their respective raids.
Riven is fine but nez can die
@@HeroicLeo8125 he kinda needs it though, so you know, he can be an actual encounter
@sh1nob1_wan_kanob1 the only REAL problem i have is the colossus with the inverted field of blank buff
I hope we get a pantheon variant that is just non-boss encounters. We could have LW Vault, Vow Gauntlet/First encounter, DSC Security, Crota first encounter, Queenswalk, KF Totems, DSC Descent, and probably one of the GoS encounters. I think that would be fun if Pantheon was on a GM nightfall deal, why they come in during the last five weeks of each episode.
Not a single cheese and used tractor cannon every chance he could. What an absolute Chad 🏆
This is how Bungie hones raiders. For an example on how the community sharpens themself, see everyone asking how to do Riven encounter
LFG making me wanna end it all this week 🙌
Pantheon should be a yearly occurrence.
Whats the purpose of using both tractor and div on rhulk? Is it just to have a bigger target on rhulk + tractor's debuff?
Div is used more so that the hitbox is more consistent.
can't believe mork isnt here my favorite mathclass member
I'm gonna be pedantic. Since the Tormentor was standing there "menacingLY". It's describing the act of standing. It's an adverb. Had to say it
Fighting lore accurate nezzy was fun :)
19:45 brother datto smoking the ounces of purple and green
Holy that time difference from oryx to Rhulk
Waiting for the OMAHA callout in 2 weeks ♥
Datto is the Jez of the fireteam when Jez is not in the team
Ive heard if you beat riven and then beat nez in the same instance you get a point bonus for nex is this true?
Yes
@DattoDoesDestiny what's your build for Nez?? I'm serious cuz I'm the only titan in the team w/out other characters developed and today is my last chance to do it. Solar titan doesn't "tick the box".
Why do you make it look so easy brooooo 😂. I pray LFGesus blesses me 🙌
Tbh, I give up on this one as a solo player relying on lfg. It's almost impossible to get a good team.
skill issue
@@user-vl4iq7bj5e i managed to do the other pantheons tho
@@user-vl4iq7bj5eaverage brain rot destiny player after watching an aegis dps video and doing an Izzy swap
@@user-vl4iq7bj5esure bud.
Had an issue with an lfg group on last week’s pantheon, we only managed to pass Golgoroth before one guy rage quit our second attempt at caretaker, and the others bailed right after.
Can someone tell me what shader Datto is using for his pyrogale build?
kinda unrelated but how many shots does it take to proc shot caller and does it matter if i'm trying to proc it with a hand cannon or an auto rifle for example?
I think it varies by weapon/archetype. Hand cannons are like 2-3 where an auto rifle might be more like 5 bullets.
I think its 3 for anything i use a 900 smg shoot 3 times and swap off
Pantheon Nezarec is what normal Nezarec should’ve been
Got Godslayer last night with lfg only. This week was rough tho
Same only lfg all weeks no friends or clan at all, everything was easy but nez took a lot of practice
@@Creature-ologyyes, nez took forever. Way too long for our group. But glad I got it
Do you need to do the quest in order to get another exotic selector? Or can you repeat Panethon per character and still get a exotic selector without quest?
What did his team use for DPS on rhulk??
Time bonus = 300K+
Platinum High Score = 500k
200k = Killing ads, Tormentors, Boss, etc.
Happy Grinding Godslayers.
I wonder how many times Datto has done Golgoroth in his life
so does datto actually not do good dps? his teammates just cook so much, that he's able to just tractor him and do super? Or is that setup actually have nutty dps? Im the only titan in my friend group so I'm looking for some good setups for these -20 modes
I will say it would have been nice to see some none tractor canon gameplay but congrats regardless 😃
Literally all the Riven changes are just "here's some adds to toss you up and damage reduction to force Riven Legit." Somehow Riven legit is on par with second Rhulk and instant kill tornadoes being everywhere on Macrocosm.
What loadouts did you all use for nez? Or at least whats the DPS strategy?
so me and my buddies were able to one phase Atraks with parasite and 3 thunder crash then lament to the end, how come you guys werent able to? genuine question
Were they using grenade launchers the first three fights? I guess they swapped off of Ghorn and rockets?
Wait so surges don't work on Atraks? Is thwt what I was seeing in the video?
Could we get an updated 2024 guide to riven legit??
a lot of videos came out recently just search for it
Same as it has always been just with all our new toys, nothings really changed
Ik but I’ve never done riven legit
@MorbusAVI the mechanics of riven haven't changed, the old video works perfectly fine
I believe Riven was added to force people to kill her legit cause it was competing with Oryx for easiest encounter
Is the full run available anywhere. Or did y'all actually not wipe
Hey Datto think you could make a loadout guide ive done all the previous weeks and were just some dps for two phasing
I have a question why is armor charge wont say your countdown?
Just got godslayer title! No friends on my list, no clan, just all lfg every week
A true test for teams going for day 1
I’m legitimately so pissed pantheon goes away in final shape, nobody’s willing to do it with slightly less experienced players and I only ended my destiny break 3 weeks prior to the end
26:42 datto how did you get a high score my fireteam also killed a tormentor and atraks all within the bonus time but still didn’t get a high score
You have to kill atraks with at least 77k points and with 5+ minutes of bonus time remaining. Basically you just have to kill it in one phase.
What were they running for dps on microcosm been trying with apex rockets and not getting enough
I don’t have cataphract what else could I run
i wish i had a group to do this with. i haven’t completed any of the pantheons
I’ve yet to do any of this Pantheon stuff and probably won’t. Hate to admit it but I’m just… not good enough man.
doing all 4 pantheons reminded me just how much i enjoy doing hard raids in this game. really wish master raids had new mechanics like pantheon did but thats just wishful thinking
I think bungie know at this point they have to. People haven't cared about master raids, like ever honestly? Seeing all this positive reception for pantheon has to have them changing how they make master raids.
very cool as always datto :3
They stick Datto on ad clear lol!
Are they using the Ron gl or the trials one?
the eye callouts are killing me what do you MEAN that's L4 ???
Seems like the bees proc shot caller on caretaker...
Not gonna get Godslayer at this point cuz everyone else on my team doesn’t want it, good luck to everyone going for it
51:46 a transfiguration from FORSAKEN DROPPED?
Your team does more damage on the hardest mode than my team does on week one…😩
gooned to this
I really want godslayer but im never going to be able to get through week 3 and 4
What was your dmg loadouts for 2 phase rhulk?
How come they were using div and tractor? Am i dumb
My run took 4 hours but damn that shit was satisfying
what did they run for dmg on planets??
Riven was easy for our team. I’m curious to see what experience others had or are having.
Same for us, we one phased her with strand gls after like four tries , only spent some time to remember how to actually run the fight. 😂
@@Calamity365yeah I was bummed by how easily you could bake her.
Same here, after derusting on the mechanics we obliterated her with 5 nighthawks and a banner shield.
As someone who has never had the chance to do Riven legit I’m terrified to attempt this
@@iamfateitself9264She’s easy, all you need to do is memorize the callouts and you’ll be good. She has barely any health.
what heavy gl were they using? Don't have any good solar one
The only two strand ones are cataphract from trials and koraxis from RoN.
@@Urbankaiser oh right, i completely forgot about Koraxis
I just got done going at this for hours smh
3 hours from datto, i feel better that it took my random lfg 6 lol
Datto what is that succession shader 😭