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Mr. Kostas Melas. History of Koreanic languages please. Is my language. My language is standard Korean. And my grandmothers(pateral and materal) are use Jeollado dialect. 🇰🇷 Kostas Melas님. 한국어족의 역사 부탁드립니다. 제 언어예요. 제 언어는 표준 한국어예요. 그리고 제 할머니들(친할머니, 외할머니)은 전라도 방언을 사용하세요. 🇰🇷 Korean language is so lonely. So I am so sad. Is nothing has simular language. My language has Formal and Infomal, and so hard about English fomal. It is Korean fomal. We are use ~nida or ~yo. Is simular than ~am, ~are, ~is? 한국어는 정말 외로워요. 그래서 저는 슬퍼요. 비슷한 언어를 갖지 못했어요. 제 언어는 존댓말과 반말을 가지고 있는데, 영어의 존댓말에 대해서 아주 어려워요. 이것은 한국어 존댓말이예요. 우리는 ~니다 나 ~요 를 사용해요. ~am, ~are, ~is 하고 비슷한가요? Japanese language is far far away cousin of Korean language? But I think that is not. Is many has not 1-1 match words. 일본어가 한국어의 먼 사촌일까요? 그렇지만 저는 그렇게 생각하지 않아요. 1대1로 대응되지 않는 많은 단어들을 가졌어요. I - me - my 나는/난 - 나를/날 - 나의/내 (informal) 저는/전 - 저를/절 - 저의/제 (formal) 나+는 - 나+를 - 나+의 저+는 - 저+를 - 저+의 Why is not use I는 I를 I의? 왜 I는 I를 I의 이런 식으로 사용하지 않을까요? Why is different than ~am, ~are, ~is? 왜 ~am, ~are, ~is 들이 다를까요? Korea - Korean, Japan - Japanese 한국 - 한국어, 일본 - 일본어 Why is not doing Korea+language, Japan+language? 왜 Korea+language, Japan+language 이렇게 안 하죠? Thank you so read. 읽어주셔서 감사합니다.
Another awesome and great video by CostasMelas! I love all of the small details, like the Slavs in Anatolia or the Etruscans developing from the Mediterranean substrate just before being pushed out of Anatolia, which is related to the theory that the Etruscans are migrants from Lydia.
"Dryopian"... So there was another Indo-European language spoken in Greece before the Dorian invasion, presumably belonging to the Graeco-Phrygian group? I didn't know about that.
Very little is known about it. Considered Indo-European from at least a toponym and from the etymology of their name, which includes the Indo-European root for oak
@@mirzabaig17 Anatolian is the first seperated branch of Indo-european on the other hand the Anatolian speakers have ''0'' Indo-european dna and all languages are extinct so the Anatolian subject is still unclear
@@naberkanka2489 yes but that still doesn't mean that Turkish language has a right to be in Anatolia since it literally has nothing to do with Anatolia or Anatolian civilisation.
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Unfortunately it is not known because they didnt leave behind any written record, however the eteocretan (shown in video) as well as the Lemnian languages on Lemnos are presumably the descendants of the pre indo european languages of Greece and are attested to since they survived into the classical era.
Amazing video, you can tell there is a lot of work put in it, you are certenally one of the best language mapping youtubers ever, and i hope your books will sell like hot bread(a lot)!❤❤❤😃😃👍👍👍👍👍 I am amazed to see that some of the lungueges in this video i didnt even know existed! Like dryopian and eteocretan for example. Also, just a thing that I want to say(that isn't really related to the video)is that i like to think that medieval greek is kind of hybrid of latin and greek but more greek than latin so a totally a greek langueage(its not a correction to the video or something, its just an unrelated opinion).👍👍❤
Several references from the ancient writers. Their language and traditions survived until the 4th century BC in Messenian Asine. However, nothing is known about their language other than the fact that the ancient writers considered it non-Greek
Turkish nationalists got crazy :D Turks have a rich and fascinating history already, but they prefer deny or try to delete the existences of others’ ones (Greeks and other Balkan peoples have same complex, not gonna lie, I can’t blame Turks for everything). A neutral and scientific education about history is very important for every nation.
There is no such a thing like slavic macedonian, People there were spoking bulgarian until recently, when the "macedonians" started a policy of distancing their "language" from bulgarian
Very nice! Though I think Ladino could have appeared as a language spoken in Thessaloniki (Sephardic Jews used to be the majority of the city pre-WW2). Nevertheless, good video!
@@tutunense because the territory of current North Macedonia was mostly inhabited by Paeonians. Ancient Macedonians mostly lived in current northern Greece, area of Saloniki
Southern Italy and Sicily are missing where Greek was spoken until the Middle Ages and is still spoken in some municipalities in southern Puglia and Calabria
Puglia and Calabria were settled by Illyrians not Greeks. The people that speak Greek and live in those places today are actually Albanians that know Greek as well.
I'm always uncomfortable to make criticism about an author and a work I like very much. But I really think there's a problem in our contemporan view of old history. Old historians always correlated languages with peoples. In that point of view, I think "old Mediterranean substrate" should be called "pelasgian". Secondly, I barely know whay are ionian, doric, aeolic, but "western greek"? "north-western greek"? No idea at all. It absolutely didn't indicate me how that language was named and neither which ethnic group used it. (and that's not an ironical or rhetorical phrase : I really don't know, but I would, because koine came from that group). The last critic is more subjective : I prefer when the music is more mysterious, like in the orgasmic, awesome "east asia" or "Africa"'s videos. (I hope the worship I give to those late videos would make my critics sounding more friendly 😊)
Thank you for the comment. North-west Greek is actually more archaic Doric, used by Aetolians, Acarnanians, Molossians, Chaonians, Thesprotians and Macedonians and to some extent by the late Achaeans of Peloponnesian Achaea, Locris, Phocis, Dorians of Central Greece Doris, Malis. Koine comes from Ionian/Attic Greek. Its use as official in Macedonia after Archelaus contributed to its spread throughout the Hellenistic world.
I've always appreciated your work, but I have to correct you this time: you forgot the Salentinian language, which is a Romance idiom spoken in the westernmost part of Apulia ("Salento"), belonging to the branch of the Extreme Southern Italian group. It is not a dialect of the Italian language (even if in Italian it's called "dialetto salentino"), it is its own language, direct discendent of the local Vulgar Latin, under the influence of the Italiot Greek. Indeed, it has been the mothertongue of most of the population of Salento from the 11th century until the second half of the 20th century, when the use of the Italian language became widespread. Nowadays, it is still widely spoken for informal communication. Thus, your map should have shown both of the languages - Italian and Salentinian - since the former was the language of the cultural elite and the latter that of the people.
Please do a detailed animation of Germany going back to Proto-Germanic. Would like to see how the various Germanic tribes evolved their languages in specific places.
I requested a language map of Egypt and Iraq, because I was curious about how ancient Egyptian was replaced by Coptic then Arabic, as well as Akkadian was replaced by Aramaic then Arabic.
There are no records in this area of Albanian before the 11th century. So making the whole area Albanian is speculation at best, bad historicity at worst, considering that the area was called Illyria Graeca.
Golden Dawn is commonly described as neo-Nazi[38] and neo-fascist.[44] The group rejects these labels[45] and its members have expressed admiration for the former Greek dictators Ioannis Metaxas of the 4th of August Regime (1936-1941)[50] and Georgios Papadopoulos of the Regime of the Colonels (1967-1974).[51] The group's founder Michaloliakos, its self-appointed "Führer", advocates Holocaust denial theory and is an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler.[52] Golden Dawn also uses symbolism which is very similar to that of the Nazis, Nazi salutes, blood and soil slogans and they have also praised figures of Nazi Germany.[53][54][55] According to academic sources, the group is racist and xenophobic,[56][57] and the party's leader has openly identified it as nationalist and racist.[58] Golden Dawn has been also described as ultranationalist,[59][60][61] they support the creation of Greater Greece,[6] and they have been strongly critical of the European Union.[
Nice video. The level of details is truly amazing. I'm curious about the aromanian part though, did they arrive in the Pindos mountains together with the slavic peoples, and what byzantine sources are there that mention them?
What would be the source for the Aromanian language first appearing in around 650, and in Albania, later migrating to the Pindus? Worth nothing Megleno-Romanian is missing from the video
History of the Greek Nation - Ekdotiki Athinon, History of the Greek Nation - Paparigopoulos, The Vlachs - Katsanis, History of the Vlachs - Papathanasiou etc. All agree that the Aromanian language was created along the Via Egnatia, where there was numerous Roman soldiers. It moved further south during the Slavic migration to the Balkans.
@@CostasMelas thanks, though this is from what I see Greek authors and sources. I am more familiarised with Romanian sources that claim a southward (not necessarily from the north of the Danube) migration before the Hungarian invasion. The result of the video would not look that different according to those sources but I was surprised to see them first shown in Albania. Still a bit disappointed by Megleno-Romanian having left out, even though it's a great video overall
@@CostasMelas I would have thought that in the Aromanians we are simply seeing some of the erstwhile Latinised populations beyond the Jirecek line migrating south in the wake of the Slavic invasions. Perhaps too heavy a reliance on Greek sources here ..?
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia. World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010) Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together. Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world. Vinca Iron production 1400 BC. In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words. Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Dardanians (Troy is here ,not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians, Etruscan. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia ……. Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
However, Greek did not spread throughout Europe like Latin, and even nearby Albania could not assimilate it. Anatolia was a Turkic language, and North Macedonia became a Slavic language…
Starting from the Seljuk period, Turkish became the dominant language in Asia Minor. Starting from the 11th century, Asia Minor began to be called Turchia. In the 13th century, Europeans named the countries extending from Altai to the Danube, including Turkestan, as "Magna Turchia" (Greater Türkiye). Western Traveler Marco Polo referred to Asia Minor as Türkiye. When Arab traveler Ibn Battuta saw that the Turkish population was dense during his trip to Asia Minor in 1331, he named Asia Minor the Land of Türkiye. Those who used to speak Greek now began to speak Turkish. The language spoken in trade centers and marketplaces was Turkish.
Istanbul didn't have greece majorityin the 16th century the population boomed after the ottoman conquest from about 50,000 (35,000-70,000) mostly greek with small muslim minorities to 660,000 in the year 1566, with giving refuge to more than 40,000 jews mostly from Spain and 80,000 Armenians in 2 big migrations, and of course too many turks.
The Bulgarians (South Slavs) were underrepresented in the region of macedonia and thrace, in 1800s many Bulgarian schools were open even in Thessaloniki. After the balkan wars greeks came from anatolia and inhabited macedonian and Bulgarians left
Πάντα τα Τσιγγάνικα δεν υπάρχουν σε αντίστοιχους χάρτες. Είναι σχεδόν αστείο, διότι Τσιγγάνικα στην Ελλάδα μιλούν 250.000 -300.000 Έλληνες πολίτες @@CostasMelas
Greeks along with Armenians are like the only anatolian People who survive to this day hell you can even include the kurds compared to the turks who were newcomers
@@VergiliosSpatulas Greeks were good colonizers and they are the reason for the distinction of Anatolian languages like Lydian, Hittite language, Palaic language or Luwian. Look to the map and see the reality, there was no Greek language in Anatolia. By the way just giving a name to a region isnt an indicator that Greeks are descendents of the region. Even genetics prove that, because geneticly Turks are different than Greeks and this not because of the Turkic migration to Anatolia, because that makes only 20 - 30 % of the Turkish gene pool.
@@BoranKq Balkans is a term made up by the westerners so if you want to use that term then feel free. however you term you Turks use "Anadolu" is literally undoubtedly of Greek origin.
@@Crxyzen1 Also according Herodotus and Strabo( geographer - historian) Phrygians ( Greeks cslled Brygians) was a Hellenic tribe from north Greece who migraded in Anatolia at bronze age - Greeks considered their language similar to Greek or a Greek dialect
@@Crxyzen1 Yes but it was Greek presence too. Trojans had Greek names culture and religion . Even though Iliad was an epic poem gave us many informations about M Asia or Anatolia Jason and argonauts trip to Kolchis ( Georgia) or Prometheus to Kaukasus and Odysseus in Krimaia - Odyssos dated before Trojan war proofs that Greeks had been expanded to east ( even in myths based in history )
We Greeks are actually descended more from Anatolian and Indo-Eurooean Speakers rather than Mediterranean Substrate speakers and Paleo-Balkan speakers,as our first ancestors. We Greeks came from Anatolia to the Greek Islands and Peninnsulas, rather than the other way around. But us modern Greeks have more Middle Eastern and some Albanian-Balkan Slavic in us now adays than in ancient times. Greeks that are not linguistic minorities do.
it is thought that the Pelasgians were part of the sea peoples which Philistines were also grouped with, not sure but I think there is a theory about them being connected
@@Dinosaur315You took Anatolia from natives, you don't belong to Anatolia (we neither), cope harder. You were before us, so what? You took from natives, then we took from you, thats it.
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Wow, that's amazing 🤩. Good luck for next times
@@vasekcz Thank you very much
You have your own books? That is amazing to know
@@Anwwoo Thank you
Mr. Kostas Melas. History of Koreanic languages please. Is my language. My language is standard Korean. And my grandmothers(pateral and materal) are use Jeollado dialect. 🇰🇷
Kostas Melas님. 한국어족의 역사 부탁드립니다. 제 언어예요. 제 언어는 표준 한국어예요. 그리고 제 할머니들(친할머니, 외할머니)은 전라도 방언을 사용하세요. 🇰🇷
Korean language is so lonely. So I am so sad. Is nothing has simular language. My language has Formal and Infomal, and so hard about English fomal. It is Korean fomal. We are use ~nida or ~yo. Is simular than ~am, ~are, ~is?
한국어는 정말 외로워요. 그래서 저는 슬퍼요. 비슷한 언어를 갖지 못했어요. 제 언어는 존댓말과 반말을 가지고 있는데, 영어의 존댓말에 대해서 아주 어려워요. 이것은 한국어 존댓말이예요. 우리는 ~니다 나 ~요 를 사용해요. ~am, ~are, ~is 하고 비슷한가요?
Japanese language is far far away cousin of Korean language? But I think that is not. Is many has not 1-1 match words.
일본어가 한국어의 먼 사촌일까요? 그렇지만 저는 그렇게 생각하지 않아요. 1대1로 대응되지 않는 많은 단어들을 가졌어요.
I - me - my
나는/난 - 나를/날 - 나의/내 (informal)
저는/전 - 저를/절 - 저의/제 (formal)
나+는 - 나+를 - 나+의
저+는 - 저+를 - 저+의
Why is not use I는 I를 I의?
왜 I는 I를 I의 이런 식으로 사용하지 않을까요?
Why is different than ~am, ~are, ~is?
왜 ~am, ~are, ~is 들이 다를까요?
Korea - Korean, Japan - Japanese
한국 - 한국어, 일본 - 일본어
Why is not doing Korea+language, Japan+language?
왜 Korea+language, Japan+language 이렇게 안 하죠?
Thank you so read.
읽어주셔서 감사합니다.
Since you're greek, I'm gonna assume this is your favorite video
You're*
you're*
@@noelxlk fine, fine, il edit it
@@gtc239wrong, it's your, you're means "you are"
You are new to the channel, right? He has many other videos about Greek language and history.
Great job (as always) 🇮🇷❤️🇬🇷 please do languages of Central Asia next :)
Another awesome and great video by CostasMelas! I love all of the small details, like the Slavs in Anatolia or the Etruscans developing from the Mediterranean substrate just before being pushed out of Anatolia, which is related to the theory that the Etruscans are migrants from Lydia.
Thank you very much
All Medieval Turkics are Eurasian. Including Kipchaks who lived in Kazakhstan and Russia. Let's model modern Turks with Kipchaks to see how Turkic they are.
Target: Turkish(West)
Distance: 0.6720% / 0.00672047
31.2 KAZ_Kipchak
30.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
9.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
8.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
5.0 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Bolu)
Distance: 0.7747% / 0.00774707
35.8 KAZ_Kipchak
24.4 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
14.2 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
5.4 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
2.4 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
1.4 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Muğla)
Distance: 0.7316% / 0.00731601
42.6 KAZ_Kipchak
27.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
13.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
6.8 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
6.6 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
3.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
@@xdd87 What does this have to do with the video? Because it seems you're talking about genetics, not the linguistics.
"Dryopian"... So there was another Indo-European language spoken in Greece before the Dorian invasion, presumably belonging to the Graeco-Phrygian group? I didn't know about that.
Very little is known about it. Considered Indo-European from at least a toponym and from the etymology of their name, which includes the Indo-European root for oak
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@@NoName-xq7dpкогда-нибудь это произойдет.
@@NoName-xq7dp eбaтb oтбитыe
Sad how Greek language ended in Anatolia in 1923 after thousands of years 😢
In the 16th century, most Greeks spoke Turkish. Anatolian peoples switched to the language of whichever nation was dominant.
@@huseyinkaramuk7555 Nah, Greeks spoke greek. Turkic was their second language.
@@Tropoja-Lezha27
All Medieval Turkics are Eurasian. Including Kipchaks who lived in Kazakhstan and Russia. Let's model modern Turks with Kipchaks to see how Turkic they are.
Target: Turkish(West)
Distance: 0.6720% / 0.00672047
31.2 KAZ_Kipchak
30.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
9.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
8.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
5.0 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Bolu)
Distance: 0.7747% / 0.00774707
35.8 KAZ_Kipchak
24.4 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
14.2 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
5.4 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
2.4 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
1.4 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Muğla)
Distance: 0.7316% / 0.00731601
42.6 KAZ_Kipchak
27.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
13.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
6.8 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
6.6 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
3.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
The Greek language began to lose its influence in Asia Minor starting from the Seljuk period.
@@turkcukayi Stay mad, and take that DNA test lil Greek bro.
I love all these language maps, keep them up!
Thank you
you're welcome@@CostasMelas
Anatolia was very diverse than I expected before the Greek and Roman domination
but all those languages were still related to Greek in one way or another
@@mirzabaig17 Anatolian is the first seperated branch of Indo-european on the other hand the Anatolian speakers have ''0'' Indo-european dna and all languages are extinct so the Anatolian subject is still unclear
@@naberkanka2489 yes but that still doesn't mean that Turkish language has a right to be in Anatolia since it literally has nothing to do with Anatolia or Anatolian civilisation.
@@mirzabaig17 What is your point? Turkish language and the Greek-Anatolian relation have zero connection
@@mirzabaig17 It inherited few Anatolian words
Here in Keratea some people speak Arvanitika not as their first language but just some basic words just to communicate.
Δόξα στην Ουκρανία
@@Bepples ε;
giati se blepo pantou
@@kalez963 ξέρω εγώ. Δεν έχω ζωή.
@@stephmod7434Γεια
Something I think you could have put in the video is the large Jewish population of Thessaloniki, which was 50% Jewish at one point.
I wish your next video you make would be the languages of Italian peninsula throughout the history
He just released it
Greece is my favorite country in the entire world, one day Constantinople and entire Anatolia are gonna be Christians and Greek again ☦🇬🇷
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How ? please explain.
I know what you mean but Turks live there no and are local population. You can’t just displace them from there homes
@@emanuelskelaj9843 Greeks Armenians Assyrians were living thousand of yrs in these lands too
But massacres genocides etc
çok güzel video
good job. Thank you very much
You're welcome :)
is Achaea where the Dryopians later fled to? then ultimately adopted Greek as well?
Can you show next time which old-european lived on Greece and which languages they spoke before indo-european arrived in Greece.
Unfortunately it is not known because they didnt leave behind any written record, however the eteocretan (shown in video) as well as the Lemnian languages on Lemnos are presumably the descendants of the pre indo european languages of Greece and are attested to since they survived into the classical era.
Amazing video, you can tell there is a lot of work put in it, you are certenally one of the best language mapping youtubers ever, and i hope your books will sell like hot bread(a lot)!❤❤❤😃😃👍👍👍👍👍
I am amazed to see that some of the lungueges in this video i didnt even know existed! Like dryopian and eteocretan for example. Also, just a thing that I want to say(that isn't really related to the video)is that i like to think that medieval greek is kind of hybrid of latin and greek but more greek than latin so a totally a greek langueage(its not a correction to the video or something, its just an unrelated opinion).👍👍❤
Very interesting! It’s a shame we don’t know enough about the Minoan language to properly classify/map it.
Make Anatolia Greek Again
Make Anatolia Anatolian again, make Greece Minoan again, make Europe pre Indo-European again.
Great great! As always, everything is accurate!
Thank you very much
Do we have any attestation of Dryopian? Why do we think it existed and how was it different from Greek?
Several references from the ancient writers. Their language and traditions survived until the 4th century BC in Messenian Asine. However, nothing is known about their language other than the fact that the ancient writers considered it non-Greek
Costas Melas i can foresee your BS, you are in love with Hammond and Georgiev.
Turkish nationalists got crazy :D Turks have a rich and fascinating history already, but they prefer deny or try to delete the existences of others’ ones (Greeks and other Balkan peoples have same complex, not gonna lie, I can’t blame Turks for everything).
A neutral and scientific education about history is very important for every nation.
Greek nationalists got crazy :D They said "anAtOLia iS oUrS!!" meanwhile they assimilated native anatolians and took their land :D
There is no such a thing like slavic macedonian, People there were spoking bulgarian until recently, when the "macedonians" started a policy of distancing their "language" from bulgarian
Very nice! Though I think Ladino could have appeared as a language spoken in Thessaloniki (Sephardic Jews used to be the majority of the city pre-WW2). Nevertheless, good video!
Thank you. Yes they spoke Ladino (member of the Romance language group). I should put some stripes
They would not be significant enough to show on a map
Make Greece Anatolian again!
make Anatolia Greek again
Eastern Anatolia is Armenian
Anatolia ends where Armenian highlands begin. It's our historical lands after that. Anyway, you're not even middle-easterners.
Still cannot accept it's Turkish? 😕
This videos there are literality the best ideas.
More correct name for the republic of North Macedonia would be Paeonia
Why?
@@tutunense because the territory of current North Macedonia was mostly inhabited by Paeonians. Ancient Macedonians mostly lived in current northern Greece, area of Saloniki
were the Paeonians later slavicized?
@@xXxSkyViperxXx slavization is crime
@@tutunense how about turkification or hellenization?
Illyrian = Greek 🇬🇷 Macedonian = Greek 🇬🇷
The Illyrians were not Greeks.
@@Nastya_07 the Illyrians were 100% Greeks 🇬🇷 end of the story
@@wasilislyssaris3925 Source: Illyrians are Greek because my Greek ultranationalist ego says so 😂
@@southepirote7676 Illyrians are Greek !
@@wasilislyssaris3925 Hellenes are Albanian 🇦🇱🦅
Southern Italy and Sicily are missing where Greek was spoken until the Middle Ages and is still spoken in some municipalities in southern Puglia and Calabria
He has Italiot Greek but it's not on the map. Are you from there? Viva la Magna Grecia 🇬🇷❤️🇮🇹
@@dekenlst No, I'm Tuscan...
Etruscan!!!
@@ilcampigiano5502 Toscano viene da Etrusco? Non lo sapevo. Anche la Toscana è bellissima.
@@dekenlst noi Toscani discendiamo dagli Etruschi
Puglia and Calabria were settled by Illyrians not Greeks. The people that speak Greek and live in those places today are actually Albanians that know Greek as well.
Yt comment section historians be like 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Do you consider Tsakonian/Doric Greek to be a different language within the Hellenic branch or a divergent dialect of Greek?
Hey, how accurate are these, 3000 bc was a long time ago.
I love Ελλάδα
I'm always uncomfortable to make criticism about an author and a work I like very much.
But I really think there's a problem in our contemporan view of old history. Old historians always correlated languages with peoples.
In that point of view, I think "old Mediterranean substrate" should be called "pelasgian".
Secondly, I barely know whay are ionian, doric, aeolic, but "western greek"? "north-western greek"? No idea at all. It absolutely didn't indicate me how that language was named and neither which ethnic group used it. (and that's not an ironical or rhetorical phrase : I really don't know, but I would, because koine came from that group).
The last critic is more subjective : I prefer when the music is more mysterious, like in the orgasmic, awesome "east asia" or "Africa"'s videos.
(I hope the worship I give to those late videos would make my critics sounding more friendly 😊)
Thank you for the comment. North-west Greek is actually more archaic Doric, used by Aetolians, Acarnanians, Molossians, Chaonians, Thesprotians and Macedonians and to some extent by the late Achaeans of Peloponnesian Achaea, Locris, Phocis, Dorians of Central Greece Doris, Malis. Koine comes from Ionian/Attic Greek. Its use as official in Macedonia after Archelaus contributed to its spread throughout the Hellenistic world.
Greeks assimilated all of the surroundings as a Pac-Man in ancient times but why they couldn’t assimilate illyrians?
Greeks tended to expand to coastal regions and after Alexander's conquests, eastwards. For some reason they didn't expand much north.
Roman Empire succeed to assimilate Dacians but they couldn’t assimilate İllyrians although they were very closer to them…
Greeks named Illyrians these people( Hecataius) but they ( Illyrians ) hadnt writing language and so there is nothing in writing document about them
@@mukan9 please compare the illyria begore and whatever was left after the roman conquest 😅
I've always appreciated your work, but I have to correct you this time: you forgot the Salentinian language, which is a Romance idiom spoken in the westernmost part of Apulia ("Salento"), belonging to the branch of the Extreme Southern Italian group. It is not a dialect of the Italian language (even if in Italian it's called "dialetto salentino"), it is its own language, direct discendent of the local Vulgar Latin, under the influence of the Italiot Greek. Indeed, it has been the mothertongue of most of the population of Salento from the 11th century until the second half of the 20th century, when the use of the Italian language became widespread. Nowadays, it is still widely spoken for informal communication. Thus, your map should have shown both of the languages - Italian and Salentinian - since the former was the language of the cultural elite and the latter that of the people.
Θα ήθελα να κάνεις Ιταλία μεγάλη Ελλάδα πως χάθηκε η ελληνική γλώσσα εκεί?
Ιταλία, Αίγυπτο
The biggest surprise for Greek was the loss of Anatolia…
All Medieval Turkics are Eurasian. Including Kipchaks who lived in Kazakhstan and Russia. Let's model modern Turks with Kipchaks to see how Turkic they are.
Target: Turkish(West)
Distance: 0.6720% / 0.00672047
31.2 KAZ_Kipchak
30.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
9.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
8.0 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
5.0 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Bolu)
Distance: 0.7747% / 0.00774707
35.8 KAZ_Kipchak
24.4 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
16.4 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
14.2 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
5.4 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
2.4 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
1.4 Levant_Sidon_1800BC
Target: Turkish(Muğla)
Distance: 0.7316% / 0.00731601
42.6 KAZ_Kipchak
27.2 Anatolia_Center_Phrygian_650BC
13.6 IRN_Hasanlu_IA
6.8 Mycenaean_Greek_1350BC
6.6 Paleo-Balkan+Slavic_MNE_Doclea_Bjelovine
3.2 Caucasus_BlackSea_Samsun_B_150BC
Truly, it is depressing how far the civilized nature of the Greek world has fallen. (im greek definitely not biased)
Dryopian? Hmmm never heard of this...
Please do a detailed animation of Germany going back to Proto-Germanic. Would like to see how the various Germanic tribes evolved their languages in specific places.
Make one for religion please
Brave of you for not adding pelasgians. A horde of angry Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians "Macedonians" and Serbs will now try and harass you
Are they published as paper books?
Maybe later
This video about the history of greece has made very well
Thracians, Phrygians and Anatolians in the year 2293 BC: Greeks? That small set of tribes in the Southwest?
Same peoples in 40 AD: We spoke too soon!
Impressive
What website do you use to create this?
I requested a language map of Egypt and Iraq, because I was curious about how ancient Egyptian was replaced by Coptic then Arabic, as well as Akkadian was replaced by Aramaic then Arabic.
There are no records in this area of Albanian before the 11th century. So making the whole area Albanian is speculation at best, bad historicity at worst, considering that the area was called Illyria Graeca.
Golden Dawn is commonly described as neo-Nazi[38] and neo-fascist.[44] The group rejects these labels[45] and its members have expressed admiration for the former Greek dictators Ioannis Metaxas of the 4th of August Regime (1936-1941)[50] and Georgios Papadopoulos of the Regime of the Colonels (1967-1974).[51] The group's founder Michaloliakos, its self-appointed "Führer", advocates Holocaust denial theory and is an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler.[52] Golden Dawn also uses symbolism which is very similar to that of the Nazis, Nazi salutes, blood and soil slogans and they have also praised figures of Nazi Germany.[53][54][55] According to academic sources, the group is racist and xenophobic,[56][57] and the party's leader has openly identified it as nationalist and racist.[58] Golden Dawn has been also described as ultranationalist,[59][60][61] they support the creation of Greater Greece,[6] and they have been strongly critical of the European Union.[
Is very accurated and documented
Languages of the Balkans
Slavic macedonian = Bulgars who llived in Yugoslave
Great video. Perhaps you could do languages of central asia?
Thank you
Finally you are back!
Do the spread of taoism, Confucianism or Sikhism.
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ΜΑΝΙ ΘΑΓΞ
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Make Languages of Middle East (Iranian plateau and Arabian Peninsula)
Γεια σου φίλε
Γεια σου :)
@@CostasMelas :)
@@CostasMelasΓεια
this is such wonderful great work. cant you please make a video like this of levant? i would even pay for that
I would love to make it
Very good very detailed. your knowledge of languages is great
Thank you
You do a great work with this fantastic video❤
Congratulations
Thank you very much
@@CostasMelas please do languages of Central Asia, Volga and Mongolia
Cant you do spread of mesopotamian religion?
Nice video. The level of details is truly amazing. I'm curious about the aromanian part though, did they arrive in the Pindos mountains together with the slavic peoples, and what byzantine sources are there that mention them?
Thank you very much
Nice Video
Thank you
What would be the source for the Aromanian language first appearing in around 650, and in Albania, later migrating to the Pindus? Worth nothing Megleno-Romanian is missing from the video
History of the Greek Nation - Ekdotiki Athinon, History of the Greek Nation - Paparigopoulos, The Vlachs - Katsanis, History of the Vlachs - Papathanasiou etc. All agree that the Aromanian language was created along the Via Egnatia, where there was numerous Roman soldiers. It moved further south during the Slavic migration to the Balkans.
@@CostasMelas thanks, though this is from what I see Greek authors and sources. I am more familiarised with Romanian sources that claim a southward (not necessarily from the north of the Danube) migration before the Hungarian invasion. The result of the video would not look that different according to those sources but I was surprised to see them first shown in Albania.
Still a bit disappointed by Megleno-Romanian having left out, even though it's a great video overall
@@CostasMelas I would have thought that in the Aromanians we are simply seeing some of the erstwhile Latinised populations beyond the Jirecek line migrating south in the wake of the Slavic invasions. Perhaps too heavy a reliance on Greek sources here ..?
Aromanians are simply latinized Greeks
@@hellenicnationalism7608 that's only one of the existing theories. We don't know for sure
its so sad that the non indo europeans were genocided
Not genocided, assimilated
Europeans, especially Southern Europeans, still have pre-Steppe DNA.
they were assimated. are u stupid?
Hi, what is the pink around Messenia in 1400 B.C?
Kaskian Language. Kaskians are related with the Caucones of the ancient sources
World first cultures Lepenski vir, Starcevo, Vinca culture today Serbia.
World first industrial revolution ca. 6000 BC. Bronze metallurgy. (BBC History news March 2010)
Gordon Childe-The Danube in Prehistory, Jacque Pirenne-Agriculture at Danube
Farming start about 6000 BC. Vinca First Calendar start to count years at 5508 BC. Farming wouldn’t be possible without knowledge of calendar. Both development started and developed together.
Harald Harman about first cyrillic writings in Vinca culture in 5500 BC so 2000 years before any writings anywhere else on the world.
Vinca Iron production 1400 BC.
In today English language there is more than 2000 same or similar Serbian words.
Names of the Balkan tribes: Pelasgians, Mycenaeans, Etruscan, Wendi, Illiyrians, Dardanians (Troy is here ,not in Turkey Homer wrote sea is freezing in the winter-Panonian sea), Moesians, Dacians, Tracians, Rasci, Celts, Scythians, Sarmatians, Arians, Sea People, Peleset, Philistines, Hittites, Bhrygians, Etruscan. Tribes spread in all directions all over Europe and Asia …….
Wild Greeks arived ~ 1000 BC from Egipt, Hungarian from Asia and Bulgariens from Asia they found culture on the Balkans, writings and language and they mixed with domestic people. 18 Roman emperors were born in Serbia because of Etruscan connection.
You are great historian
Thank you very much
However, Greek did not spread throughout Europe like Latin, and even nearby Albania could not assimilate it. Anatolia was a Turkic language, and North Macedonia became a Slavic language…
In Anatolia from Alexander period untill 14th cen Greek was the dominator language( Anatolia = Greek word)
@@elenilepouri7253 Eastern Anatolia was a part of Armenia for most of time
@@meme-potentialsearch8010 Yes it was from ancient. Armenian kingdom refered by Greek authors from bronze age
Excellent music choice
Thank you
Starting from the Seljuk period, Turkish became the dominant language in Asia Minor. Starting from the 11th century, Asia Minor began to be called Turchia. In the 13th century, Europeans named the countries extending from Altai to the Danube, including Turkestan, as "Magna Turchia" (Greater Türkiye). Western Traveler Marco Polo referred to Asia Minor as Türkiye. When Arab traveler Ibn Battuta saw that the Turkish population was dense during his trip to Asia Minor in 1331, he named Asia Minor the Land of Türkiye. Those who used to speak Greek now began to speak Turkish. The language spoken in trade centers and marketplaces was Turkish.
pobres como cambiaron de idiomas
Istanbul didn't have greece majorityin the 16th century
the population boomed after the ottoman conquest from about 50,000 (35,000-70,000) mostly greek with small muslim minorities to 660,000 in the year 1566, with giving refuge to more than 40,000 jews mostly from Spain and 80,000 Armenians in 2 big migrations, and of course too many turks.
Thanks for video
You're welcome :)
2:16 Language of Troy??
Love your videos. Is there any way you can make them 4K in the future?
Thank you
The Bulgarians (South Slavs) were underrepresented in the region of macedonia and thrace, in 1800s many Bulgarian schools were open even in Thessaloniki. After the balkan wars greeks came from anatolia and inhabited macedonian and Bulgarians left
There was a population exchange between Greece and Bulgaria in 1922. The Greeks of Eastern Romelia were exchanged for the Bulgarians of Macedonia.
Minoan wasn't it's own thing?
Mediterranian substrate could be Pelasgian?
Yes the Pelasgians are part of it
Bulgarian, that you mean as South Slavic was more and more wide spoken in most of time.
I searched Dryopian on Internet, but English text is limited. Do you have any references for Dryopian?
someone should do a video on dated ``deaths`` of languages. Just like Eteocretan ``died`` in the 3rd century BC and Sumerian around the time of Jesus
Πολύ ωραία προσπάθεια. Τα τσιγγάνικα που είναι;;;
Είναι διεσπαρμένα, κυρίως σε περιαστικές περιοχές και είναι δύσκολο να σημειωθούν στο χάρτη. Ίσως αν χρησιμοποιούσα και ένα μοτίβο με τελειές.
Πάντα τα Τσιγγάνικα δεν υπάρχουν σε αντίστοιχους χάρτες. Είναι σχεδόν αστείο, διότι Τσιγγάνικα στην Ελλάδα μιλούν 250.000 -300.000 Έλληνες πολίτες
@@CostasMelas
Sorry but this video is very confusing and hard to look at. Hard to differentiate some colors as well. Overall could be better.
But wait! “AnAToliA wAs grEEk“. Thank you for the video. Anatolia was Anatolian!
Yes, the name of Anatolia literally is a Greek word implying how we're the natives of it.
Greeks along with Armenians are like the only anatolian People who survive to this day hell you can even include the kurds compared to the turks who were newcomers
@@VergiliosSpatulas Greeks were good colonizers and they are the reason for the distinction of Anatolian languages like Lydian, Hittite language, Palaic language or Luwian. Look to the map and see the reality, there was no Greek language in Anatolia. By the way just giving a name to a region isnt an indicator that Greeks are descendents of the region. Even genetics prove that, because geneticly Turks are different than Greeks and this not because of the Turkic migration to Anatolia, because that makes only 20 - 30 % of the Turkish gene pool.
@@VergiliosSpatulas The name of the Balkans is Turkic, what will we do with it? Are the Balkans Turkic?
@@BoranKq Balkans is a term made up by the westerners so if you want to use that term then feel free. however you term you Turks use "Anadolu" is literally undoubtedly of Greek origin.
So sad to see native anatolians are assimilated by greeks. Make anatolia hittite again 💪💪😅
Ancient anatolians had Greek genes or were Hellenizated from bronze age- Phrygians Lydians Trojans
@@elenilepouri7253 They got hellenized. Actually i said wrong, i should have said Hattis, not Hitites. Hattis are not Indo-European (thus not Greek).
@@Crxyzen1 Also according Herodotus and Strabo( geographer - historian) Phrygians ( Greeks cslled Brygians) was a Hellenic tribe from north Greece who migraded in Anatolia at bronze age - Greeks considered their language similar to Greek or a Greek dialect
@@elenilepouri7253 Well, they were relatives. But before them there were Hittites, Luwis and Hattis.
@@Crxyzen1 Yes but it was Greek presence too. Trojans had Greek names culture and religion . Even though Iliad was an epic poem gave us many informations about M Asia or Anatolia
Jason and argonauts trip to Kolchis ( Georgia) or Prometheus to Kaukasus and Odysseus in Krimaia - Odyssos dated before Trojan war proofs that Greeks had been expanded to east ( even in myths based in history )
Почему нельзя поставить два лайка?/Why can't I put two likes?
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AWESOME VIDEO, I like it
Thank you
West Thrace of Greece, full of Greek language? No Turkish?
The Turkish language is noted in part of it
I don't understand the color combination sometimes, hard to make them out
For example around 900 ad we have this blue - white color in the Peloponnese, what's that supposed to mean?
Yellow stripes not white - Slavic
We Greeks are actually descended more from Anatolian and Indo-Eurooean Speakers rather than Mediterranean Substrate speakers and Paleo-Balkan speakers,as our first ancestors. We Greeks came from Anatolia to the Greek Islands and Peninnsulas, rather than the other way around. But us modern Greeks have more Middle Eastern and some Albanian-Balkan Slavic in us now adays than in ancient times. Greeks that are not linguistic minorities do.
Great irony.
were the Philistines Pelasgians?
Mycenaeans
@@Sponge416 really? thought they were Pre-IndoEuropean
it is thought that the Pelasgians were part of the sea peoples which Philistines were also grouped with, not sure but I think there is a theory about them being connected
No Myceneans were hellenic meanwhile Pelasgians were pre indo european @@Sponge416
@@Sasuke-kx2xb Mycenaean are predominantly descendants of pre-indo-europeans culturally Indo-europeans
Ești bun grecule !
A nice video showing that the greeks aren't the natives of Anatolia and Istanbul.
Neither are turks, but at least we were there first before them 😉🇬🇷
@@Dinosaur315 idc
@@Dinosaur315You took Anatolia from natives, you don't belong to Anatolia (we neither), cope harder. You were before us, so what? You took from natives, then we took from you, thats it.