I always thought the same about the knees but couldn´t say anything because it was the traditional way and the arm crossing the face was enough so you could put the other one down. Thanks for sharing, I learn a lot from these videos.
Sorry Gabriel, I know you were a pretty good kickboxer, but my sensei is Steven Seagal, so I'm gonna have to side with him on this one. We train to maximize our chi powers.
Great video, especially like the hook part because some people have told me there's "only one way" to throw it when in reality it depends upon the person
@@StinkyMick99 Ahh thanks for the info I do know a little about the longer hook but does it allow you to connect with the first two knuckles earlier? If so I might start practicing it
I always say on the hook position is defined on distance. Super close thumbs, medium punching horizontal and long distance or getting around the guard thumb down. You actually showed me that thumb down approach
I have all of these things checked of my list for my coach Gabriel, our coach at the gym teaches everyone differently not just going my way is the only way which I really like about being at the gym with him training me and overall a very useful and a very helpful video and keep up the great content as always Gabriel!
These are based on my experiences in different gyms 1. Sticking on your striking stance. Ex. if you are an orthodox you must not switch to southpaw 2. Leg kick variations, telling one is wrong to the other. Should it be a snap? in downward motion? 3. Fancy strikes and kicks are easy to see and dodge. Ex. superman punch, spinning back fist, spinning back kick, spinning hook kick, jumping front teep I'm an mma practitioner with karate as my foundation
damn just realised you got about 260k subs now on UA-cam!! I remember when it was just like 30k or even less back then! Happy for ya! One of the best kickboxer ever!
I have learned a lot through the mistakes and lack of knowledge of my trainers, I am very grateful. Everyone has to constantly study this art themselves =) I have never seen this arm position on the knees like this, gonna try it. I'm using Superbon armposition.
The major issue I find with most Muay Thai schools is the complete lack of detail. Like keeping the opposite hand on the side of the head for example - they don’t teach you exactly how tight it should be or that you can still get hurt if the kick slides over the gloves and connect to your head. The head movement is another thing
I do the roundhouse like how you say not to, but it works for me. Roundhouses can't hit me at the same time like you described because my elbow is flared out a bit (entire forearem covers the side), while simultaneously blocking from a lunging punch, and it doesn't obscure vision either. I can't seem to generate power without rotating that arm either.
I've found the hook depends on your distance. If I am in tight I will throw the hook with the thumb up. My hand rotates more and more depending on how far away I am from my opponent. If I hook from a good distance "being 6'4" my hand is turned completely over with the thumb down similar to an overhand. I find that I can generate a lot more power without hurting my wrist. Whereas a standard thumb up hook at that range causes a bent wrist and I will straight up hurt myself on the heavy bag. P.s Thanks for the long guard videos. I've been experimenting with it for a while now, but after implementing your guard modifications I was able to hold my own against a pro fighter that normally beats the crap out of me. A few tiny changes seemed to have upped my game by like 1000% because I can safely stay on the outside. My relatively healthy brain thanks you too.
You'd be amazed if you have a great gym and a great coach how many dudes have only enough information not knowledge to teach and make money but are barely basic level many bad coaches out there but coach Varga is one of the best great advice as always
I’ve seen a couple times when cornering that a fighter has been taught to Perry the jab with the wrong hand. Both times ended in right hand knockouts for my guys as this opens a lane for the right hand . I feel like mma really watered things down when it comes to coaching . So many gyms opened up . Guys don’t know how to check kicks , footwork is terrible . I’ve held pads for lots of pro mma guys and the first thing I do is step toward them after they throw . They don’t move , no understanding of range . Very few know how to punch while going backward either . Only standing still or going forward . Get as good at punching backward as you do going forward. These things are easily exploited by a good corner and fighter
I know exactly what you’re talking about. Sins of the ‘MMA’ coaches seem to be former high school wrestling coaches who watched a few boxing and muay thai videos.
7:20 That’s why I block with my arm and hand on the side of my head not in front of me. Since my opponent from that distance is most likely gonna aim for the side of my head not the front of the head. I also know from doing MMA that once they do catch my leg of mine they would take me to the ground instead because it’s a good move to go for. But back to what I was saying… I guard from the side so I can still see my opponent since it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to counter my roundhouse so quickly with a straight unless they catch it like I mentioned. It’s not like I can’t switch where I wanna block anyway 7:48 like mentioned “it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to counter my roundhouse so quickly”
Where I train MMA they teach hooks with thumbs up and the reasoning is that youre more likely to break your hand or fingers (coach says benets fracture and boxers fracture) but in sparing I sometimes throw it other way because of my position or oponents position
9:26 when I was in kickboxing the coach wanted my hook to have my thumb facing me arched after he saw me doing a hook with my thumb facing up. After the class I asked him: “What was the difference” He replied: “throwing a hook with the thumb facing you can be thrown more further away” So I thought about it, and I realized it kinda makes sense because your opponent in kickboxing isn’t always going to close enough to throw your hook with your thumb facing up So he knew what I was doing but i guess he just wanted to show me another way to do it.
Hi i do taekwondo sparring and i wanted to ask some tips from you since you do kickboxing like what can i incorporate in tkd that people do in kickboxing I will also transition in kickboxing after college
Pretty sure I've commented this on some similar videos you've done before, but on the glove in front of the face for round kicks, that's one that gets to me, too. First time someone suggested it to me (not a coach but just someone I was doing padwork with), I tried it once and instantly hated how it blocked my own vision 🙃
Living and training in holland I am usually the smaller fighter despite being 178cm and 98kg. Most guys I spar can touch me with hands when I throw kicks… Dutch guard is awesome!
I must say after listening to the intro I as a coach myself expected the lesson to be more of a exposing nature. I survived your scrutiny this time it seems hehe. Anyways overall there a good info here so I do hope people are appreciative of that!
What about keep both hands in guard when trhrow round kick? Whad do you thing about Savate boxing? Would like to hear your impressions. Thanks for quality matherial. Regards.
What's up Gabriel, huge fan. On the catching kick thing it'd be cool to see your opinion on the way Sanda fighters catch kicks which is with two hands. I was taught it too, and I always wondered why more kickboxers or muay thai fighters don't use the same technique besides the fact that a lot of Sanda takedowns and throws are illegal there. Thanks for the content as always!
In fighting there is no “only one way” to accomplish anything in a fight. I teach head movement but not big on weaving in kickboxing/mma but still show it
I concur 💯 about head movement. The main reason it’s not taught is because the Coaches themselves can’t do it. The rear hand placement on the round kick, I would debate you one that. (Especially in MMA) I think in front of the chin protects against straight punch counters (more common in MMA) side of jaw is more traditional Muay Thai to protect from Round kicks as you’ve stated. On the Hooks … Biomechanically & Anatomically the American Hook (thumb up) is far superior to the European Hook. There is some room for personal preference and context, but not a lot. The American Hook is vastly more powerful and much safer. The European Hook is the leading cause of Boxer’s Fractures.
I train sanda and some people in my gym say to not use the switch kick because its slow and the switch is a tell for the other fighter catch the kick. Insted just lift the lead leg with no set up and kick which is faster but much less powerfull. What do you think about that?
As a Muay Thai fighter, a switch kick is much more powerful than just lifting the lead leg. You can also step with the rear leg for more range. Simply lifting the lead leg is less telegraphed but you will pay the price with the loss of power.
If we're going in raw, it's pretty easy to spot and defend against, but if our opponent is busy catching hands to the face, they're not as likely to notice the switch step before the kick. So if we just properly mask our switch kicks with setups, they can be plenty effective, even if we aren't super quick at the switch step.
big mistake to assume the way you train with gloves prepares you to fight and land with bare nuckles and not damage your hands. bare knucke boxing is very different
Good coaching and being a good athlete are nearly completely different skill sets with very little to do with each other. Most of the world's greatest coaches in most of the world's sports never won a championship.
Agreed. A good coach is more like a librarian with a library of information collected over years of practice and study - a librarian doesn't need to master all the subjects in the library, but can often easily find what a patron needs in any given situation.
I agree with all points except the first, if you catch with both hands you protect your ribs more and have a better grip on the leg and you can easily lean back to avoid punches or just bring the hand back up to your face very fast. I don't always catch that way but in my experience it works fine. Have you actually tried it yourself?
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I was taught as long as you say "Ooh-Wee" before every strike, it hits 10x harder.. Also adds 2 second stun to your opponent.
You're supposed to do it during or right after the strike to be awarded full points
pull up your shorts before is a 50% power boost, try it
I always thought the same about the knees but couldn´t say anything because it was the traditional way and the arm crossing the face was enough so you could put the other one down.
Thanks for sharing, I learn a lot from these videos.
Sorry Gabriel, I know you were a pretty good kickboxer, but my sensei is Steven Seagal, so I'm gonna have to side with him on this one. We train to maximize our chi powers.
Don't wan't to go against Mr. Seagal. He taught Anderson Silva how to front kick.
Didnt he teach Lyota Machidq as well! Boy that aikido technique really worked LOL
Do you train to run like him as well? 😁
Have you seen the cock puncher video?
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I think your couch is James bond
This was super helpful! I rarely think about covering while throwing the knee but this was a much needed adjustment
Great video, especially like the hook part because some people have told me there's "only one way" to throw it when in reality it depends upon the person
really having a repertoire of the same technique w different variations is the way but that takes alot of drilling and practice/fighting
Palm facing u is for closer range hooks but if u want a long range hook then slowly turn ur palm facing outward
@JeffPenaify Yeah I agree that is the best way and then you can use all ranges effectively, gotta get the practice in 👊🏽
@@StinkyMick99 Ahh thanks for the info I do know a little about the longer hook but does it allow you to connect with the first two knuckles earlier? If so I might start practicing it
Im my gym i was taught to throw the hook depending on the range, so we learn all ways to throw it.
I've always assumed pulling your hands down when kneeing was to replicate what you'd do in a clinch scenario.
That most likely would be both hands drawing down.
Like, if you're grabbing one arm?
It's to make sure they get to see the full sneer on your face as you land it flush:
_Mind games_
I always say on the hook position is defined on distance. Super close thumbs, medium punching horizontal and long distance or getting around the guard thumb down. You actually showed me that thumb down approach
I have all of these things checked of my list for my coach Gabriel, our coach at the gym teaches everyone differently not just going my way is the only way which I really like about being at the gym with him training me and overall a very useful and a very helpful video and keep up the great content as always Gabriel!
These are based on my experiences in different gyms
1. Sticking on your striking stance. Ex. if you are an orthodox you must not switch to southpaw
2. Leg kick variations, telling one is wrong to the other. Should it be a snap? in downward motion?
3. Fancy strikes and kicks are easy to see and dodge. Ex. superman punch, spinning back fist, spinning back kick, spinning hook kick, jumping front teep
I'm an mma practitioner with karate as my foundation
Awesome advice as always.
damn just realised you got about 260k subs now on UA-cam!! I remember when it was just like 30k or even less back then! Happy for ya! One of the best kickboxer ever!
It's good to learn and master both hook positions.
I have learned a lot through the mistakes and lack of knowledge of my trainers, I am very grateful.
Everyone has to constantly study this art themselves =)
I have never seen this arm position on the knees like this, gonna try it. I'm using Superbon armposition.
The major issue I find with most Muay Thai schools is the complete lack of detail. Like keeping the opposite hand on the side of the head for example - they don’t teach you exactly how tight it should be or that you can still get hurt if the kick slides over the gloves and connect to your head. The head movement is another thing
You have to travel to Thailand
I do the roundhouse like how you say not to, but it works for me. Roundhouses can't hit me at the same time like you described because my elbow is flared out a bit (entire forearem covers the side), while simultaneously blocking from a lunging punch, and it doesn't obscure vision either. I can't seem to generate power without rotating that arm either.
thanks gabriel really nice video
Glad you liked it!
I've found the hook depends on your distance. If I am in tight I will throw the hook with the thumb up. My hand rotates more and more depending on how far away I am from my opponent. If I hook from a good distance "being 6'4" my hand is turned completely over with the thumb down similar to an overhand. I find that I can generate a lot more power without hurting my wrist. Whereas a standard thumb up hook at that range causes a bent wrist and I will straight up hurt myself on the heavy bag.
P.s Thanks for the long guard videos. I've been experimenting with it for a while now, but after implementing your guard modifications I was able to hold my own against a pro fighter that normally beats the crap out of me. A few tiny changes seemed to have upped my game by like 1000% because I can safely stay on the outside. My relatively healthy brain thanks you too.
You'd be amazed if you have a great gym and a great coach how many dudes have only enough information not knowledge to teach and make money but are barely basic level many bad coaches out there but coach Varga is one of the best great advice as always
I’ve seen a couple times when cornering that a fighter has been taught to Perry the jab with the wrong hand. Both times ended in right hand knockouts for my guys as this opens a lane for the right hand . I feel like mma really watered things down when it comes to coaching . So many gyms opened up . Guys don’t know how to check kicks , footwork is terrible . I’ve held pads for lots of pro mma guys and the first thing I do is step toward them after they throw . They don’t move , no understanding of range . Very few know how to punch while going backward either . Only standing still or going forward .
Get as good at punching backward as you do going forward. These things are easily exploited by a good corner and fighter
I know exactly what you’re talking about. Sins of the ‘MMA’ coaches seem to be former high school wrestling coaches who watched a few boxing and muay thai videos.
7:20 That’s why I block with my arm and hand on the side of my head not in front of me. Since my opponent from that distance is most likely gonna aim for the side of my head not the front of the head. I also know from doing MMA that once they do catch my leg of mine they would take me to the ground instead because it’s a good move to go for. But back to what I was saying… I guard from the side so I can still see my opponent since it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to counter my roundhouse so quickly with a straight unless they catch it like I mentioned. It’s not like I can’t switch where I wanna block anyway
7:48 like mentioned “it’s unlikely that they’ll be able to counter my roundhouse so quickly”
Where I train MMA they teach hooks with thumbs up and the reasoning is that youre more likely to break your hand or fingers (coach says benets fracture and boxers fracture) but in sparing I sometimes throw it other way because of my position or oponents position
Absolutely correct. Especially with mma glove. There’s a slew of other reasons the American Hook is safer and better than the European Hook.
9:26 when I was in kickboxing the coach wanted my hook to have my thumb facing me arched after he saw me doing a hook with my thumb facing up.
After the class I asked him: “What was the difference”
He replied: “throwing a hook with the thumb facing you can be thrown more further away”
So I thought about it, and I realized it kinda makes sense because your opponent in kickboxing isn’t always going to close enough to throw your hook with your thumb facing up
So he knew what I was doing but i guess he just wanted to show me another way to do it.
Happy to see I don’t do any of the misstakes u talk about. Useally nag my students about most of them though!
Hi i do taekwondo sparring and i wanted to ask some tips from you since you do kickboxing like what can i incorporate in tkd that people do in kickboxing I will also transition in kickboxing after college
Pretty sure I've commented this on some similar videos you've done before, but on the glove in front of the face for round kicks, that's one that gets to me, too. First time someone suggested it to me (not a coach but just someone I was doing padwork with), I tried it once and instantly hated how it blocked my own vision 🙃
Thanks for the video. Do you have a tutorial on how to throw an amazing roundhouse?
I believe I cover that in my intro to kickboxing lesson
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Thank you very much@@GabrielVargaOfficial
Thank you great video
Living and training in holland I am usually the smaller fighter despite being 178cm and 98kg. Most guys I spar can touch me with hands when I throw kicks… Dutch guard is awesome!
I must say after listening to the intro I as a coach myself expected the lesson to be more of a exposing nature.
I survived your scrutiny this time it seems hehe.
Anyways overall there a good info here so I do hope people are appreciative of that!
Manny p throws his lead body hook palm facing down so he can dig the knuckle in but u need great wrist strength
What about keep both hands in guard when trhrow round kick? Whad do you thing about Savate boxing? Would like to hear your impressions. Thanks for quality matherial. Regards.
What's up Gabriel, huge fan. On the catching kick thing it'd be cool to see your opinion on the way Sanda fighters catch kicks which is with two hands. I was taught it too, and I always wondered why more kickboxers or muay thai fighters don't use the same technique besides the fact that a lot of Sanda takedowns and throws are illegal there. Thanks for the content as always!
I support this meesage
@@thisbodyisacataract7924 thanks brother
about the hook, i think it can also apply to jab
In fighting there is no “only one way” to accomplish anything in a fight. I teach head movement but not big on weaving in kickboxing/mma but still show it
I concur 💯 about head movement. The main reason it’s not taught is because the Coaches themselves can’t do it.
The rear hand placement on the round kick, I would debate you one that. (Especially in MMA) I think in front of the chin protects against straight punch counters (more common in MMA) side of jaw is more traditional Muay Thai to protect from Round kicks as you’ve stated.
On the Hooks … Biomechanically & Anatomically the American Hook (thumb up) is far superior to the European Hook. There is some room for personal preference and context, but not a lot. The American Hook is vastly more powerful and much safer. The European Hook is the leading cause of Boxer’s Fractures.
Fiouf😅 im safe my students are in good hands it seems ❤
Hey Gabriel, how do you recommend fixing these mistakes. Are there any drills to implement?
Can i only block strikes or i need use other types of defense? I prefer blocking, i think it is more safe
I train sanda and some people in my gym say to not use the switch kick because its slow and the switch is a tell for the other fighter catch the kick. Insted just lift the lead leg with no set up and kick which is faster but much less powerfull. What do you think about that?
I train mma and my coach says it too, but I think it has its place. Otherwise, fighters wouldn't use it
Switch kick is plenty effective and not at all slow if the skip is done correctly.
As a Muay Thai fighter, a switch kick is much more powerful than just lifting the lead leg. You can also step with the rear leg for more range. Simply lifting the lead leg is less telegraphed but you will pay the price with the loss of power.
If we're going in raw, it's pretty easy to spot and defend against, but if our opponent is busy catching hands to the face, they're not as likely to notice the switch step before the kick.
So if we just properly mask our switch kicks with setups, they can be plenty effective, even if we aren't super quick at the switch step.
you can do some setup first before or while switching the leg. maybe like a jab.
You can blame ajarn suchart for teaching the knee like that at 4:20 across Canada , two hands pull down on his version, even worse.
Can I agree more than 100% on the slip?
Can't tell if "definitely" is deliberately spelled WRONG in the thumbnail....
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I had to retire from fighting because of a shattered orbital.
big mistake to assume the way you train with gloves prepares you to fight and land with bare nuckles and not damage your hands. bare knucke boxing is very different
Do you think me , training kickboxing for about 5 or 6 months , have the enough power to KO someone on the street fights?
It depends if the person knows how to fight as well or not
What a beta question
I guess scoring 5/5 on this test would not be good thing 😂
Good coaching and being a good athlete are nearly completely different skill sets with very little to do with each other. Most of the world's greatest coaches in most of the world's sports never won a championship.
Agreed. A good coach is more like a librarian with a library of information collected over years of practice and study - a librarian doesn't need to master all the subjects in the library, but can often easily find what a patron needs in any given situation.
Jhon Danaher never compete...
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I agree with all points except the first, if you catch with both hands you protect your ribs more and have a better grip on the leg and you can easily lean back to avoid punches or just bring the hand back up to your face very fast. I don't always catch that way but in my experience it works fine. Have you actually tried it yourself?