5 Things US-UK Stars Can Do But Kpop Idols CANNOT
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Okay, guess you guys have all heard about the smoking accusation of BTS V by now right?
While it's still unclear whether did he really smoke, or was it just an edited photo, this big controversy sparked an idea in our head to make this content - 5 Things That US-UK Stars Can Freely Do But Kpop Idols CAN ABSOLUTELY NOT! - to further discuss the differences between a Kpop idol's life and a US-UK star's life. Because though both are public figures, it seems that US-UK artists just have much more freedom in doing certain things than Kpop idols.
Let's dive into our video to find out which 5 things celebrities in the West can do on a daily basis, but Kpop idols will immediately be condemned if they dare to do the same.
5 Things US-UK Stars Can Do But Kpop Idols CANNOT
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So, the forever question is: Should Kpop idols be allowed to do things that normal people do? What's your answer? 😶😶😶
they are still normal people and some fans take these way too far, especially those who are “in love” with the idol. after all, it’s their life and their choices and we cannot control or criticise this as it’s not our place to
Well there human too.they can do whatever they want except for one thing smoking. Smoking in general shouldn’t be normalize as it will not only effect the person but also the pp who r with them.also kpop fans r like really young many of them r 9,10,11 to 17,18 years old as my self a teen and many of them come to fan meeting and concert so it be a bad influence for them if idol is doing it publicly. As far as a Idol is doing it privately iam fine.
ofc
Yes they are human not statues to praise ir critize everyday
I dont think fans should be that protective towards their idol because they are human too they need their private life to double standards
All of these, except marriage and dating, are still criticized in the west but a way less degree. It really depends on the image that someone puts out to the world.
yeah cuz saying Taylor didn't get hate for her dating life is just absolute lie.
It's criticized but in the end it doesn't matter it has no aftermath on their career
@@vell2994 o really??.. Then why Justin Bieber's sells has been decreased??.. Why his wife still gets 1000s of death notes everyday after 3 years of her marriage with Justin Bieber??.. Stop being delusional.. Every idol weather It's western or korean has Their hardships!!
@@atlight1977 Even this video worded her dating life in a condemning kind of way. "a dozen boyfriends", she's in her early 20s and I think she's only ever had 10 exes. This channel's full of shit...
@@atlight1977 she's dating right now and literally no one cares
I think it's the industry's fault. It's such a "conservative" and demanding environmnet where many idols are forced to hide or pretend like they are perfect person's. At least UK-US stars have way more freedom.
They don't, They just don't care, and that's how they have made changes.
Asian personalities care too much about their image and that is what makes them never upgrade themselves
@@kyokugo6460 I don't think it's about them caring, but industries are made for the fans and US/UK fans are more open minded than Korean fans.
@@justsomeone4498 But there are Idols who have made changes in the industry, and their fans have learnt ro accept them, The issue is in the Idol Industry all around asia the artist are obligated to comply with the fans unless they wanna be put in the position of stopping being Idols.
Miley Cyrus had to do pole dance for people to freak out and eventually get her out of the Disney "Idol" mold, Katy Perry had to sing about lesbian love to get out of the "Christian church girl" mold and many more artist have had to do that in the west to be more respected in their individual decisions.
Do that in China/South Korea/Japan and people will avoid you like the pest cuz is not common.
And it's not even a matter or society, smoking, clubbing and dating are common parts of Korean life, the industry just wants to capitalize on young teens (mainly girls) by projecting the perfect boyfriend image onto their artists. Meanwhile, in kpop people like to boast about having more devoted fandoms compared to western artists' fandoms, and yet, the simplest mistake and k-pop fans are the first to turn their back on their idols. The fact that they're referred to as idols is a red flag since forever....
@@CsySnw Very True
When V was smoking, he wasn't doing it for the world to see. He didn't know he was being photographed. It's his private time. Let him be. He's an Adult.
I agree
Though i don’t like the smoking thing Being normalize as i my self as teen and many kpop fans r kids like my niece only 11. I think as far as celebrity is not publicly doing it iam fine for v it was his private time so he do whatever he want.western celeb r causing second hand smoking to their fans if their doing on public Place.
Rather they should search the person who took the photo... It's really frustrating that idols can't have their own personal space... Even though it's bad he is not showing it to the world. When some say idol giving bad example to fans like fans don't have their brain to use to see whether it's bad thing or a good thing..
fr that was a saesang picture
the saesang absolutely did not have any right to invade in his private time
The main reason is probably that
The way Kpop develops, the idols are shown to have complete devotion to fans only. A exclusive label is placed on the idols to fans alone.
The Kpop fans have too much privilege and many deluded ones who assume the idol as theirs or something like he/she belongs to all, like some sort of public object.
@Rr H Yes its true
The word Idol is painted by the companies as an IDEAL
The one who is PERFECT
And they make the fans fantasize it as so to make their every move captivating and so they make more money but if anything they only see them as ATM machines for them and don't truly care for their idol's personal wishes or well being
Even famous ones like BP or BTS are pushed or misused by their Agencies even if they have any physical or mental strains
True
These so called fans are full on bullshit and are not fans at all but hypocrites and trash people hope they get big karma
I think it's not about idol's behavior as long as they didn't hurt anyone. But it's about the anti-fan and sasaeng. They just want to say bad things about them.
This
Timestaps :
0:17 : Smoking/Vaping
2:18 : Partying at Clubs
4:10 : Doing Plastic Surgery
6:13 : Dating
7:30 : Getting Married
You forgot
7:30 : Getting Married
@@ryujinner4785 thank you for informing🤧🤚!
1:36 “image of a sweet and warm hearted boy” really?? I’ve felt like since 2018 Tae’s given off the very classic manly image. His style, love of suits, jazz, vintage things. He seems like the kind of guy who smokes cigars. We knew he vapes so I think most people surprised by this are probably new armys or quite naive. Also there are many sweet warm hearted people who smoke. Nice people can do things that are bad for their health, you know.
Back in their early years of becoming idols, Tae really took on a sweet and innocent persona. If you told an army at that point that he smokes, they'd think you're crazy, me included. The sudden change in the way he presents himself now is a shock to older army's, especially the vaping. So the surprise is not limited to new army's. I myself became an army during the Blood Sweat and Tears era, so I got to experience Tae's change as a person first hand.
the difference is that smoking affects others and it can clearly promote others to smoke as well. smoking shouldn't be normalized in general.
@@TheRealRingwanderung I’ve been an army since around then too and remember him wanting to appear manlier around the time when he met his hwarang friends. That’s when his style changed a lot too. 2017/2018 he started choosing his words more carefully and stopped goofing around as much. By 2020, the boyishness was gone. He’s still sweet and kind but he’s a 26 year old adult man, not an innocent boy. He had the vaping “scandal” 4 years ago now! This change wasn’t sudden, it’s been years in the making.
And in an industry as exhausting and stressful as kpop, no wonder he needs a smoking break now and then to calm down.. (I hate smoking, but I understand why he would want one now and then)
@@TheRealRingwanderung V is not going to be a teenager idol forever. He was not promoting smoking as the pic was taken secretly and shared online. I'm sure being a kpop idol means no social life, no dating, no sleep, diets etc etc. Imagine the stress!!. Hope people just accept that he smokes and not villanize the poor man.
You are wrong about Taylor Swift... She did receive really harsh criticism, to the point that they called her "serial dater" .... She even wrote a song based on that criticism... Celebrity dating is always a big deal no matter where, when they break up they get criticised and when the are together they get criticised
I think they mean like in the west they're allowed to do things like PDA or like relationship announcements isn't much of a big deal as it is in the kpop industry
Though she is still very much criticized for her dating profile, however even though she's currently in a relationship for like 4yrs now, she's not losing fans bc of it. Or like no one is burning her merch when it was confirmed that her and Joe Alwyn were dating.
I think the most criticism she got when it was announced that dating Harry. All because during that time, she was already known for writing breakup songs. But before that, she wasn't criticized for dating joe jonas, connor ect, because its normal for celebrities to date in the west.
@@YM_M27 ye they just choose like the worst example to give. They should've gone for artists like justin bieber yk
But in kpop it's way much serious
@@armyblinkexoloncecaratikon8703 Ye in general. My point is just that ts was an awful example cus it was verry serious in her case and had a huge effect on her career
True, although I agree that it didn’t severely impact her career in terms of success and numbers, we cannot ignore what she publicly stated about this. She was sexualized, slut-shamed, ridiculed and humiliated by the media for her dating life, stuff that caused her great mental harm. Dating however one wants is only accepted in male celebrities in the west, while women are severely judged still.
western: just be who u are
kpop: need to be perfect
I think that because of the popularity of the kpop idols and their toxic fan base fans are dalulu and think that they can date the idols and that they must be stopped when they see something they don't like ( I am a dalulu fan but the good kind I just blush when I think about them skz)
Some fans take crushes on idols too far... Far enough to actually think they own the idol🤦♀🤦♀
"OMG There's no way my oppa smoke!!
He is too *daebak* for that "
Lol 🤣
I hate how they keep using Oppa. It’s just too cringe for me.
@@chubby_cheesecake_cheeks i agree, even though it's a common korean word, the western stans kind of chrushed the original meaning of it. Kind of wierd🥴🙂
I am very happy for Red Velvet's Joy and Crush's dating. They are cute together, they seem very happy, and are still pretty subtle about it.
I love the saying in the fandom: Joy has her Crush and Crush has his Joy.
Edit - thanks for the correction.
You mean crush 😂
Crush 🤣 the name of the her boyfriend is Crush
That's adorable actually 💙
that saying is so cute 😆
I don’t know much about them but that’s so cute! ❤️❤️
the smoking thing though.. taehyung is a whole grown man and army’s bringing those signs with that no smoking sign in concerts r so annoying 😐 he can do wtv he wants
They do what-
Normalize kpop idols dating, going to parties, swearing, wearing clothes they like, drinking, ps, any body weight, especially for things they cannot control such as not fitting the korean beauty standards, nationality, age ect.
Normalize them making mistakes, they're humans not Gods.
@Moon Bae right. It's just the excessive shipping and the hate that comes with it that left to correct.
@Moon Bae Ig u forgot that knetz still exist. Knetz are the only ones hating on kpop idols if anything like that happens. Seriously they are too much! 🧐😕
@@YM_M27 yhh agreed
It’s so unfair, idols should be a aloud to do what they want
Allowed*
I think the big difference between artist in the US and UK and artists from South Korean is how they are seen by fans. I think the Korean idols are more idealized whereas in the US we've seen our celebrities at their best and worst so we accept that they are human. The prevalence of tabloid magazines, tell all books, and interviews gives us much more insight into their personal lives. It seems like Kpop idols are a lot more closed off so the fantasy around them prevails over the idea of them as real people.
Someone who works a lot with kpop idols once said about them:
"They’re like Barbie and Ken dolls made on a conveyor belt. They can’t decide on their own lives, all they have to do is be perfect, as fans expect them to be. They can’t date because they have to maintain the appearance that they are ‘in love’ with their fans, they only have their fans. They don't need anyone else. But let me ask, if we look only at the lifestyles of healthy young people, do they have no needs? I mean, sexual, emotional needs, or do they just need a little freedom? Please let them be humans, they are not dolls, they are people who were not made on a conveyor belt."
And That woman was so f*cking right!!!
Smoking is bad for health, this could seriously damage their singing and breathing ability( which are very important for their careers).
I would never encourage or support smoking and if anyone smokes, I would try to discourage them away from this. It could take smoking only 1 time to get completely addicted to it.
But at the end of the day, they are adults and hopefully know the risks of smoking.
Lol you don’t get addicted to smoking by 1 time. Also while smoking is bad I still wouldn’t discourage them since it’s their life. Many celebs smoke from time to time due to their stressful life.
The damage to singing and breathing ability isn’t that severe unless they smoke like 2 packs a day. If they keep up with their vocal training then their singing ability won’t be damaged.
Lol its his life...who the hell are
@@miavs2074 it is their life, I mentioned it and one cigarette could lead to two, then 2 could lead to more. It dosen't happen in every case but it can happen
@@miavs2074 one cigarette once in a while isn't much but if they repeatedly smoke, then it could be a problem. And yes smoking can be addicting
kpop idols are fr like prisoners ... i hope theyll get more freedom in the future.
I love it that people on the internet act like saints. I can understand that when you are a kpop idol that you can’t do some stuff so openly like “other people “. But come on can netizens stop acting like they are perfect and never drink, smoke or do normal things!? I really hate it how hypocrite some people are.
The 97-liners partying at Itaewon was criticized not because they went to a bar but because they were not supposed to go to Itaewon on reason that they're was a covid case in the vicinity and they jeopardized the covid protocol. That's it. There wasn't any problem of them going to a bar
Seriously, she isn't even doing proper research. Also, just because they went to a "couple" of bars doesn't mean they went there to see girls "half naked". Not all bars are like that. Plus, it's dispatch. Sometimes they aren't even sure what they're talking and posting about without proper evidence. All they showed were a picture of the bars they allegedly went to without the said idols in the picture. Dispatch would always include the idol's faces in the articles they post and just because they allegedly went to 3 bars doesn't mean dispatch can't fabricate them. Those idols didn't even have the chance to speak about it, explain and their companies straight up made them apologies without defending them. Most of the time the companies won't even try to protect their idols. Also why would they go to 3 bars when they can just stay at the first bar they went. During that time of the pandemic everyone were very busy and the idols' schedules became even more hectic so do they even have the time to visit all 3 bars? The 97 liners mostly drink in restaurants if ever you've seen their photos.
@@animesymphony8997 so true. She said that Taylor was not critized, beg your pardon? she got humiliated for having multiple boyfriends and writing songs aout them.
@@njarasoarumpf8464 Ikr. Have you realized that she's the same person from kookielit? Recently she said that blinks attacked Aespa for "no reason" when there was a reason. It was SM's fault anyways. They said in their official Twitter account that aespa were the first Korean group to perform in Coachella, did they really think that wouldn't trigger blink tho I'm not a blink myself 💀
@@animesymphony8997 First Korean group invited to the main stage
West artists have freedom to date , marriage and other things
Because it's different from their profession
People judge them on their talent not on their personal life
I also think Bollywood (Indians) actress and actors
@@jenlisa5151 l not saying about this l saying that in k-pop dating is a scandals but not Bollywood K-pop ldols are treating like money markers dolls but not Bollywood
Well,idols didn't smoked in front of everyone they were photographed. Why did they post that photo it will affect younger ones.
Ikr
1:51 He should be aware of this as a public figure? are you actually serious. It was invasion of privacy. Can't he have a normal life for a second behind close doors? Kpop idols are humans they have flaws and no one has the right to say what they should do or not.
hiii, love your videos!!!
The idols are humans too. No one should limit them to do what they like. It's so unfair on how they are treated like robots without feelings, passion, freedom and emotions too. The companies should consider that and fans should stand up for them instead of criticizing them.
There is also a huge difference how people treat uk stars and kpop star...i mean netizens treat,, in general fans
Kpop fans treat idols like god whether uk stars are treat as normal people... And also kpop idols are faking there image and uk starts aren’t
Knets treat idols like doll because they have no choice unless they want to get thrown away they have to abide to those cult-like rules that's absolutely inhumane
@Moon Bae ahhh when I watch this channel's vid they always said it's knets but if the international celebrities also do these stuff why don't they get hate only kpop idols do example the dating and marriage one
@Moon Bae ya I agree with you too it's just sasaengs and baby fans will go to every extent to tell everyone that this poor idol was quote unquote their's
I remember one day seeing a comment on a video explaining how kpop now is the same as the hollywood industry in the 50’s and that they will probably evolve the same way, slowly but surly i guess 🤷🏾♀️
I don’t know how it was back then nor do i remember where i saw the comment I’m talking about, i just wanted to point this out 😊
V was unaware he was being photographed, instead of worrying about what he was doing in the pictures, people should care more about the fact that he was photographed by someone without permission.
It's going to happen for as long as he's a public figure
Hiiiii! Another comment from me..
I'm a really big fan!
I love ur vids💞💞💞💞💞
I don't know which sns you are talking about but from the most I know it wasn't gp that was "criticizing" v but the anti fans. And it the gp and even korean netizens defended him who are not army.
This photo was taken to soley "destroy' image his but that person must be feeling miserable who did it.
And FYI that person was akgae of one of the member and did this out of Jealousy because their favorite member didn't went viral or attracted any attention
And you out that on thumbnail just to attract attention because even you are aware of the power of the FACE OF KPOP( give by korean media).
Right after Grammy taehyung also got the title of NATIONAL TRESURE
V case was editing
In second photo shadow there is no shadow of cigarette in his hand
@@saia8503 yes and that is very much true.
I forgot to write it so thank you very much 😊 .
Also the person who posted these pic admitted and they have deleted their account
Bigbang fans can't relate. Most bigbang fans are mature we've seen them smoking, partying openly like most people and thats the most normal shit i've seen yet other fandom think otherwise . They make this shit a bigger problem . It's their life for fuck sake🤦🏽♀️ . Even one of the bigbang member are married and have a child already.. But still none of fans left them because they love for their music. They expect their bias to not be in relationship and smoking like bro thats ridiculous. Actually this shit should not be a thing in the first place tbh
i agree with most parts but you mentioning Taylor Swift ans saying that she didn't receve much backlash from her dating life is compleatly wrong. She was like the wrongest example u could've given. She littarly was scrutenized so much because she had so many bfs and also because she wrote songs about it. This is more then about sexism in the music industrie cus artists like bruno mars en justin bieber never gotten those bad treatments.
True, and I’m sorry but what’s very funny to me about the Taylor swift situation, is that in the 16 years of her public career life, she doesn’t even have that big of a number of official boyfriends. Meanwhile you have rappers that have 10 baby mamas in a year and let’s not forget about the old rock gods with their armies of groupies. It’s still all about women, as the public has always been content with criticism on women’s personal choices while men are always given a much more lenient sentence.
@@mariakiwi1428 agreed there is still a lot of sexisme to fix in the music industry- wel actualy everywhere
People gonna criticize kpop idol if they’re ugly but if they do surgeries to look prettier cuz y’all keep complaining they will get hate
tbh, I think smoking should become a taboo in general, not just with kpop idols. It's time people understood that their bad life choice affects others as well and force others who chose not to smoke to smoke.
Nah everybody take our own decisions in life, is nobody else responsibility but ours. All those idols are adults and are entitled to take their decisions as adults, and like everybody else, perfect persons in the world doesn’t exist and they are not here to met this role.
What about drinking culture in Korea?? Only smoking should be taboo? That's just a double standard. Drinking also affects the health just as badly as smoking fyi
@@laterwoo I don't support drinking as well 🤷♂️.
I was a cancer researcher in the past and both smoking and drinking are the leading causes for non-idiopathic cancer, amounting to more than 50% of the cases. Smoking, iirc, leads to a third of the non-idiopathic cancer cases in the world.
Lung cancer is the most prevalent cancer in the world and one that leads to the most deaths (breast and prostate cancers are also quite common but their mortality rates are lower).
At any rate, the main difference between smoking and drinking is that smoking causes people who don't actively smoke to smoke. It's imposing bad life choices on others.
I also condemn societies with drinking cultures such as Korea. No double standard here.
Wtf 😒 they are public figure and you know that kpop fans are likee 🙄🙄 especially armys so
@@avikaprajapati2113 The picture was taken secretly. Taehyung had no idea. He obviously wasn't promoting smoking. Being a kpop idol doesn't necessarily mean you should have no personal life/boundaries. He was just smoking to relieve stress i guess. He has worked extremely hard from a tender age. I'm sure he started smoking to reduce anxiety and stress. (ofcourse smoking doesn't actually reduce stress i know). Not defending his actions, just saying that he has a personal life outside of his idol life....which includes smoking, drinking, and relationships.
I feel like this because of they always push the aegyo type personality. Which is fine but greatly limits their actions such as no smoking and no partying ect because they're now limited to the maintaining that innocent look.
@Moon Bae didn't i already reply to you?
@Moon Bae oh you're copy pasting. Okay.
Some of my mother's doctor friends in Asia smoke and 3 of my uncles have been smoking forever (probably since their 20's - about 25-30 years or so). It's kinda common in some situation.
I guess looking more in depth in some cases explains better what happened. Like the 97 liner not necessarily were criticized for clubbing (also not at all being in a club but merely eating in a place) it was done in a time where the public perception of social distancing was very harsh and not only on celebrities but everyone crossing these rules received lots of criticism. Meanwhile dating in fact often doesnt go over well however the dawn & hyuna situation was due to them doing the opposite what was discussed with the agency and let go because of a broke of trust not dating.
it wasn't the case tho, because they didn't break these rules
they had been flexed at that time and that's why the club at which they were was opened in the first place
people just got mad because them, being idols, were the pandemic was still going on, despite the fact that the government allowed people to be there
they were basically saying: “people are indeed allowed to go clubbing, but you guys are mere objects created to fullfil our expectations so shut up”
@@Polo-gq5of i didn't say they were breaking rules and again it wasn't a club but a bar/eating place that was a wrong report in the beginning. i said the public scrutiny towards everyone that was discovered to have basically putting themselves in risk regardless of the situation or rules. mind it was still in the beginning and the government went back and forth in the regulations not pushing too hard on business for the sake of preserving economic which they later realized that they have to enforce closing. sure there will be always the 3, 4, 5 netizens that say something drastically and that will be showcases and reported in western sources but not what goes on in general in the country. I was speaking of a very general perception experiencing many non celebrity cases of people being scrutinized for putting themselves in risk at that time while i was living there. There were many articles about regular citizens cases and companies that were highly shunned for their willingness to risk infections. I can see why people's opinions outside of korea about this case are different has they might not have known the overall climate in the public to that time.
The fact that people have whole imaginations of idols being perfect and when they make a small mistake they hate them forever is insane idols won't do whatever people want they can't be controlled like robots
I think its incredibly sad that anybody should be subject to live there lives based on the expectations of people they dont even know . I understand living up to one's parents expectations and even that's subject to controversy, but I think the restrictions placed on kpop idols tends to create fatal fans not mature fans and give to much power to netizens after all we are talking about our fellow human beings and unless God is among those criticizing (and I seriously doubt that) were in no position to judge. We should admire there talent for sure but to try to run there lives wow how self righteous our we. Kpop has an unconditional fan in Texas!!!!!
In taehyung's case , it is edited(photoshopped) . please do proper reserch.He was not smoking.
No it's not
I'm gonna be honest I didn't really care to the intro and whatever your saying at the start because i see Taylor Swift just wave and it's part of the monologue song aaahhhhh but I did pay attention to the video when I have calmed down
Ps.thank you for putting a clip of the whole music industry/ Taylor swift...
Honestly I don't care about the plastic surgery thing if it makes you Happy it makes you feel better and give you confidence go for it but I do think you they should draw a line and not overdo it but other than that I'm fine with it, the smoking thing I smoked when I was young and I quit when I was young but I can guarantee you I did not start smoking from seeing a celebrity on TV it was because of the people I hung out with and was surrounded by, I generally do not believe that people would do anything they see on TV maybe little kids but I don't think they have been to twice about smoking, it's like when parents jump to conclusions and think that the kids have committed suicide by watching this series or this movie but the truth is they kid already have the thought of committing suicide they probably got an idea on how to do it and was trying to figure out which way to do it, but I can guarantee you that was already in their mindset, they already planned on doing it it's just a guy idea on how to do it, but from my opinion I think maybe it's because the parents in Korea or in asia. Or too involved in idols live just as much as the teenagers and any 20 year old that they truly believe that they kids will do something by watching their favorite idols which is not true I think it's because parents are so heavily influenced and so involved with the kids watch that they kids can literally look at them and lie straight to their face and said they doing this because their favorite idols doing it but the truth is it has to be someone that they're hanging out with in socializing with it literally has to be someone that they're surrounding themselves with to influence them in person, I promise it is never a celebrity on TV it's literally someone that they hang out with on a daily basis that's influencing them and they need to realize that just because they see a celebrity doing it that they kids going to do it too if they didn't raise their kids to be smart enough not to do something like that they went wrong as parents not the idols.
I understand outrage w the 97 liners going to a club bc of social distancing. If it wasn't that period then why should we care?
I think so somewhere it also depend on the audience like what kind of mentality they are having....
But I think so still idol is also a human being too so he can do whatever he want until it is out of rage and many people are hurt by them.
Well I agree with NO SMOKING, its not about kpop idols, its about anyone and everyone, we don't say SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH as if its nothing coz smoking and drinking never shows you are an adult and I think if people would have cared for V rather than passing criticism would have showed their caring side, but ultimately he was proven innocent so that what all matters but other factors are very normal and SK as a country and as a society should rethink about themselves and start reforming coz its 2022 guys, you won't be called a developed nation unless you develop your thinking.
Because k-pop idols are like idols and inspiration for young children and trainees so seeing idols smoking will have impact on those youngsters as they would want to be like them and would like to do whatever their idol do to be like them..
That's why k-pop fans are extremely concerned about it...
In Asia, smoking is not seen as a good thing it's rather in a vulgar side for the public...
Like bars are common but as rolemodels for young idols...idols are believed to not to anything that normal human do..
Well that's how society it...
But people did throw shade and criticized Taylor for dating also it was big amount of hate💀 and "dozen" 🙄wow you could have used a nicer word
In East Asia fan culture is so different from West.... but I think it should be improve...
If your not beautiful enough get plastic surgery and also they say do not get plastic surgery.
Knetizens... Sometimes are toxic to idols witch driven them to thier depression... And the fact that they buy their merch etc... They think idols are are actually thier property geez...... What a narrow minded, hypocrite, audacity to them🙄🙄🙄🙄
To me I think it's because the companies are so greedy, they are so incapable of drawn a line between the idols and their fans that they have not set any boundaries between them they're so willing to please the fans because if you please them they are paying by all products and merch from these idols, they rarely care about the idol safety they just care about making money off of them so they don't set any boundaries between the fans they just so desperate to please them just to make money off of these items not caring if they want to date or hang out and have fun with their friends or their family in other words do normal and regular things like any other normal human being would do, these idol fans are so God damn delusional to think there's not going to be a day when their items are going to date or get married they don't need their permission and they don't need their improvement to date anyone if they don't like it well they weren't real fast to begin with and I don't like the fact that these companies treat these items as products and not human beings because they get lonely just like anyone in this member from super junior he found somebody he loved and he wanted to spend his life with just like any normal human being who are not idols do if they find somebody they love and want to spend time with just life if they're planning their wedding they're going to be by their partner side to plan it as much as they love the career and they fans they love that person a bit more like come on do fans truly believe that in the end of the day that you're going to be their main priority in life, the only way that I happen if their idol is a Playboy or Playgirl and they have no need for a significant other and they just love to sleep around and just sing and dance and make money and focus on the career but if you come across someone who wants to spend their life with one person then your ass need to prepare yourself emotionally and mentally especially as they get older they should be preparing themselves that this is going to happen, I don't care how old the fandom is they should know better to know this, everybody wants to date everybody wants to get married that's the reality that they need to face it.
Taehyung looks so hot while smoking god damn
I think except the smoking and clubbing thing rest of the thing like dating marriage plastic surgery should normalize
Taylor doesnt recieve to much criticism for dating so much..
meanwhile, Taylor releasing blank space/ whole reputation album.
Taylor recieve so much critism but she chose to just write songs about it haha.
its because us-uk artists have the freedom to call their fans delusional for thinking they have a chance. kpop idols, due to their contracts and the industry itself, don't have that freedom which leads to this kind of behaviour from fans.
If these rules was not being implemented in the beginning of k-pop then these things wouldn't be such big deal as it is now and as the k-pop is growing day by day people must become much more acceptable towards the idol afterall at the end of the day the idols are also a human like all of us just coz they are famous and public figure you cannot always have the right to criticize or troll them for petty little things
Although smoking is real bad for your health, smoking V hits different. I don't encourage him smoking but he looks smoking hot in that photo.
Knetizens really control the idols life a bit to much like let the idols live in peace we dont own them and tbh sometimes fans are more controlling then their own companies
I think that a lot of what is being forced onto the idols come from the public and the companies mirror some of those somewhat insane views in error.
Question: Do the public and Fans abide by those same rules they try to force on the Idols and Companies representing those Idols? No, I don't think so. It's easier to point fingers and accuse, rather than to follow good advice for themselves.
Smoking? I am a smoker however I wish I never started. I know what smoking does to my body and that awful smell lingers on everything. Idols smoking? More of an impact on their health, breath intake while sing and dancing, cuts down on the oxygen in their body, causes more health issues, suppresses appetite, that smell, etc. However, smoking is triggered by stress. Solution? Get rid of the stress. Company should help resolve it since they obviously want full control of the idol's actions. Suggestion? Nicorette Gum/Nicotine Gum.
Partying At Clubs? Understandable. I've party hard starting "later in life", then went "Cold Turkey". Saved Money and avoided "less than reputable" people. However, I discovered that a large amount of "acquaintances" were fiercely protective of me, along with the owners of the establishments. Yes, shocked me as well.
However, maybe the Companies could band together and provide "a safe haven" that could be more controlled to a certain extent?? NO ONE BUT IDOLS ADMITTED WITH APPROVED RSVP. HIRE TRUSTED EMPLOYEES TO SERVE AT THE CLUB. CELL PHONE CHECK AT DOOR. STAFF DRIVERS ON DUTY. NON-ALCOHOLIC DRINKS TO UNDERAGES. MAX CAP BASED ON BMI OF EACH IDOL. Why won't they do that? Oh! I forgot, the Executives tend to be Greedy Pigs who don't follow by their own rules.
Puk Jun Young??? What a Double-standard Mess. Prior "Scandal Video" = Boy got girl Prego, sent girl for abortion, boy tried to get sexy with his ex-wife, girl came back home, working as an Idol, boy continued (?) as Idol, and no explanations to the public. Yea....that Executive is "pure as the white driven snow". LOL!!!
!!!!!Practice what YOU Preach!!!!!, for ALL "your standards".
Doing Plastic Surgery? Yeah, way too much involvement from the public. Public and Fans forget that procedures in that profession are really, really expensive. So where did THE MONEY come from??? Since it was already exposed a number of times in previous videos....."Who has complete control over their idols?" (eat/sleep/work/appearances/repeat, repeat, repeat); "Who doesn't give more money than they have to, for the care of and any profit-sharing to their idols?" (Idols are forced to cohabitate in the same residence for how many years? Wages withheld for how long? )...."Who would benefit more to the changing of their employees look if it got them more money?" (Dress him like this even if one of the others in the group has identical an outfit at the awards ceremony (medium lilac and orange/tan suit.....oh yea, and one smoked because of stress), change all of their group stage outfits to that (too provocative? we need that attention), I don't like his hair color, her hair style, her body weight (change it), No facial hair! Order him to shave (or he doesn't get a paycheck this month), if you hear any complaints....we just won't promote them anymore).
Yeah, WHO? Couldn't be the Idols.....they have too much to lose. Idols who have rich parents???? NOT even. Those wealthy parents would've selected their children's company (with lawyers present), not the "other way around".
"Companies" even force the Idols to work when they are sick, released from the hospital, suffered a death in the family, haven't eaten for days, etc, etc, etc.
Dating? The Companies and the Fans/Public are way too involved again. Is that why Puk Jun Young is divorced now? Or is that just another one of his "Double-standards"?
"Don't do as I do, do as I say."
The Fans/Public don't want their Idols to date because in their minds, that Idol will marry them? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Come back to reality. Even Idols holding hands is frowned upon! Wrist holding is preferred. Crucify any Idol that hugs another, even if they are happy, just won a major award, or they actually ARE siblings!!
'Did you see that? They just hugged! They must be dating!! How vulgar! Will they get pregnant? That's gross! The world is going to end!!!'
WAY TOO INTRUSIVE, OBSESSIVE AND CONTROLLING.
Does the Public do this to their own children? NO, they're too busy trying to find the right life partner for them. Even make deals for "arranged marriages", yes it's "selling their kids".....still to present day. It's not like they "love their children anymore", it's more like "how do I profit from this too?"
Getting Married? See above for the most part. Company Executives want to own their Idols in every way possible. It doesn't help when the Fans/Public ultimately support that, by complaining and pointing fingers, and throwing fits. Then the Companies blame the Idols for loss of profits when the Company was planning on getting rid of the Idol as "they were getting too old" or "losing full control". But the Fans/Public again are WAY TOO INTRUSIVE, OBSESSED AND CONTROLLING AS WELL.
Idol who didn't let his fans know he was getting married?? Good move for his privacy was protected and his sanity. No obsessed fans invited themselves to the festivities. YES, OBSESSED. Upset that some of their gifts were given to his spouse? Yes, every male idol who only wears one set of earrings needs an Earring Tree that hold 12 pairs!! Please notice, he didn't throw them out, he respected your gift and gave it to someone who could use it and take care of it. He showed YOU honor.
Does getting married affect one's singing ability?? I know age does, physical changes does, ailments, nodes on vocal chords.....but marriage??? NOPE.
Too bad that way too much money is spent needlessly from obsessed fans who even sacrifice themselves food to give generously to an Idol. Every country around the world has orphans, handicapped, uncared for children, the homeless, starving human beings......why not give wisely??
Thanks for your video!
Too many delusional fans. Demanding their idols to look like angels, but angry when they know that they have gone cosmetic surgery.
That's true
I think kpop is very popular in young children and smoking cigarettes can inspire them in a wrong way
and also smoking is not a good habit as it is very harmful for lungs and specially for singers
On Taylor Swift: "..and also for her short-lived romance with a dozen boyfriends. However, she doesn't seem to suffer much criticism for that" HUH?? People made her an epitome for break up songs like, "oh there she goes again, another break up song coming" and people were and still are calling her a sl*t, degrading her artistry, etc. That's also explained in the "The Man" MV btw
Just saying... i know they meant idols can't go out even hanging out with same gender, worse if opposite gender because there will alwaus be drama, even if they are cozy with a fellow member
It's disgusting how some fans try to dominate the lives of their idols. My goodness we're all human, and just because Tae smokes doesn't mean he's not sweet and warm-hearted anymore.
That's The Reason Why Kpop Is Different, Unique And Cute Than Pop. But Getting Married Should Be Normal In Kpop. The Only Thing In Kpop I Hate Is Go Under Plastic Surgery And Unwanted Male And Female Idols Love Shipping. Otherwise I Love Kpop. My Favorite Kpop Group Is Bigbang, BTS, 2ne1, Blackpink And Itzy.
The smoking picture of V may be true may not be true, however I don't care. But the thing is, he is not promoting or encouraging smoking. He did not ask for that person to come and take a photo of him smoking and upload it in social media. That person whoever took that photo, took the photo WITHOUT permission just to put him in trouble. Which means that V did not promote smoking...
97liners' Itaewon was not for clubbing but clubbing during Covid pandemic.
These things are not they cant do these are things fans dont let them do and hate when they do it
just because they smoke doesn't mean they're rude and disrespectful also they are grown ups they can do what they want to
Bro why tf would I care if idols go out clubbing??? The nightlife culture is huge in Seoul so why can everyday Korean adults go out and blow off steam but idols can’t???
The double standards...
too daebak for that 💅 I'll remember this one! 🤣
I think the fact that they are referred to as idols (instead of artists) says enough about how they are viewed
ok but what is this stock video- 1:17
Guys the v one was fake it was photo shopped by a fan/hater they later even apologised for it
Why KPOP idols gets too much critisism. Is a self explanatory KNets are to BLAME and influencing other nationalities to follow their kind of MINDSET. A boxed, shallow, selfish and immature thinking.
Show business people is just for show. Who knows what goes on in their personal lives? It is just that US-UK stars are more open about their lives.
Omg
Maybe that’s why there are called as idols, the person we look up to and celebrities?!
As an idol you should inspire your fans to achieve their goals or dreams
That is why they’re called ad K-pop IDOL
It’s totally fine to date! But smoking and alcohol is not good for the idols nor their fans
As an idol in Korea people will do anything that their idol does! Like if an idol buys a particular brand of chocolate that chocolate will be sold out the next day
In these situations, this will badly influence the younger viewers and affect their health too!
I think that is why companies don’t alllow them to do theses things🤷♀️
Why did use taehyung's photo on the thumbnail?
Yes idols should be careful as alot of thier fans are very young and its important to set an example for them. But these stars weather they are from America, Asia or timbuck two are human just like anybody else. Some kpop fans have an unhealthy view of thier idols and I just think they need to realise that thier idols deserve happiness in thier lives as well. It's rediculous that they get bashed because they have found someone they love. That's not being a true fan to me, you would be whole heartedly happy for them, and its selfish if you think they should be single for you for ever, separate fantasy from reality because when you don't your only hurting yourself and your idol as well. We all are only human after all.
They are human too 😔
I agree with your point number one (no hate) this is just to make things clear and also clear for the ppl who r hating V for smoking because it's edited pic he was just bitting his nail but the editor deleted the pic and account and apologized
Source ?
Because alot of kpop fans take idols as their private property or puppet who fulfil their wishes
They ask for respect but don't know how to give respect
K-pop idols survive cause there r some fans who treat them like humans with emotion and feeling thank to all those K-pop fans that we able to enjoy kpop
Early 15 mins!!
Music vs image. Image wins in kpop industry.
1 thing i have to say as someone who isn't an army i think this is the fault of whoever took the photo i mean "setting a bad image to younger audience" while its true its still not his fault if whoever took the photo didnt do this this wouldn't have happened in the first place nor any other situations regarding other idols smoking or going to clubs 🤨
I still remember how got7's or exo ( I don't remember ) korean fans said that they shouldn't marry or date someone they have fans and jyp said they( idols ) can't live alone all their life and those girls went wild 💀💀
Clubbing and dating should really not be an issue for their fans. Fans are not likely to date them, so they should think about if they weren't allowed to date or go to clubs and how that would make them feel.
Ok the two boys dancing in red coat are Jin Jin and Rocky of astro. You girl don't really mention the news regarding astro but sneak clips of them in between your videos.
idols show good ways for the society on screen. but they are also humans so they can smoke , drink , have relationships and blah blah.....in their free time or backstages
people should stop controlling the korean idols , while the Westerners are living so damn freely both on and off screens.
For me this is don't really matter as long they don't do drugs or a crime.
who is the girl at the end?
"Passionately emitting smoke" ...? How does one day that? Thought that was funny. It's his body, and we can't tell the *man* what to do. Man is the operative word. He's grown. Nothing you say it's going to convince him to stop smoking. He will have to want to do it himself. I know a lot of people are concerned for his health, but I am almost 100% sure V knows the dangers of smoking.
half of the K-pop fans are teenagers, so Taehyung should not smoke?! But Fanfics are okay?!🤷♀️
Where the hell are the teenagers now?! I’m pretty sure that 80%of the ff accounts are teenagers
It’s disgusting! Seriously like an idol because they make good music and because of their characteristics
We have gotta protect 4th gen idols from being sexualised
Yes yes there are warning saying we are not sexualising the idol it’s just imagining? Like what !would you like if someone does some dirty things imagining about you ?
Before reading or watching those ugly things please think about how YOUR IDOLS would FEEL!
Every time a popular idol gets caught smoking or with smoking paraphernalia everyone forgets about the previous time the they were caught....the standards don't apply to everyone lol
netizens really out here pressed as if the 97ners were going to strip clubs or some sh/t
unclench 😪😪
Maybe they more expectations to kpop idols that's why they are more concerns or more criticism that they express to kpop artist Or they doesn't want the image of kpop idols to be ruined. And about the other country, they have different perspective or opinion about that issues or concerns.
I think kpop idols should be free like US-UK idols because its their decision to do what ever they want right? and I hope they stop taking pics of an idol doing their stuffs because its really private, unless its more intentional to people and fans