honestly, if you see, most people and fans really dont care weather an idol had plastic surgery or not, its just a topic antis just like to poke around. Also people dont care abt plastic surgery on idols unless they actually went through procedures and then lie that the didnt since it promotes unrealistic beauty standards.
As a Korean myself, plastic surgery is common. For me it's not a big deal and most Kpop idols do it for themselves and for their fans as well. Overprotective fans need to accept this truth once and for all. Your nose and some facial structures won't change once you hit puberty.
You deserve a greater audience. You see, you're absolutely right but I don't know why Plastic surgery is still a controversial act in kpop. More and more people should accept the truth to normalize this issue.
True but most are offended as they think everyone must be natural. Being natural is of course better but many cannot accept their natural looks. However, if anyone gets plastic surgery, they should have the courage to admit it.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj true and being naturally "beautiful" is not an achievement. it ain't better. not like the "natural beauties" won some competition in mom's womb to get that "perfect face" we "ugly" people are discriminated because we don't fit the society's standards. But when we put our earned money on our face to fit in and to be treated better, we are criticized. double standards out there huh? I didn't commit a crime to get "ugly" face. neither did "ulzzang" people do something noble to get that "perfect face" that they are praised about. pretty privilege exists and hurts a lot. end of my rant lol
Kpopers claiming they don't care if idols have done plastic surgery but then writing essays to prove their favs haven't it is the definition of hypocrisy
Its ok to have surgery whats not ok is when the idol actually didnt had but people are saying he/she did the best example of this would be sullyoon from nmixx sbe didnt had surgery but people are claming she did when her predebut pics looks so damn similar im not a fan of nmixx tho
Because deep down they view people who has gone under the knife as a lesser beauty than people who have never done it.It's why they act like a hypocrite the second some surgeons points out the possibility of their idols getting some work done
@@aureliajesical.1569 well, i do honestly. i, with no doubt, dont like idols who hd done ps but well, almost every idol did it. i def consider ps as fake beauty because it is indeed a fake beauty gotten by undergoing knife. so. i dont hate the idols coz bruh, it is their life but i also wont appreciate it cause come on, it aint evn natural.
@@jinnxx2729 I share your opinion on plastic surgery as well,but I won't shame or belittle people who have done it.I respect their reasons for it and it's their body so they can do whatever they want with it
I also think that Irene's surgery was one of the best done ever, she was already naturally beautiful and with some little touches she became even more beautiful to the point she's become the standard on visuals just besides yoona.
Besides Irene, Yoona also has done PS.. It's totally not wrong, but what makes me perplexed was because how her fans being delusional and claims the idol 💯 natural beauty
It's interesting to see how people react to different idols having PS. In this video there's a lot of fans saying “Plastic surgery isn't bad. or even admitting that your face changes naturally over time. But on another video with different idols there was a lot of comments that contradict today's.
Legit, I found it so annoying how people feel comfortable straight up saying "Oh, this idol had plastic surgery". Like do people really need to know that???
@@yaako887 Yes, people who influences teens and kids should actually be more open about their PS. Young minds dont know the difference and create illogical standards for themselves. One of my friend is at the verge of developing an ED. I am not blaming people who have works on their face but unlike Jessi, most idols dont talk about it upfront. Also its one thing to do PS for health issues and another to achieve a beauty standard. You cannot talk about "self-love" and contradict that by going under the knife to achieve a standard set by other people. A fat blunt nose and a slim sharp nose serves the same purpose so putting one above the other is stupid. Also you can find slim sharp nose more attractive than a fat and blunt one but that doesnt mean your treatment towards both should be different. Pretty privilege should be looked down upon by the same way we look down upon people who get rich by corruption. Quite a long essay but I hope I was able to put the message across.
Yeah ..exactly they are a bunch of hypocrites..especially thise spineless army... just to come clearly, studies are telling that PS and wearing makeup is contributing to fake beauty standards. people who can not afford it..are heavily criticized...that's why suicide is so high in that country
I honestly couldn't care less about idols getting plastic surgerys or not, but in jisoo's case- comparing baby and childhood photo to how she looks as an adult? My nose was small and cute when I was a child and now it's big and not that pretty lol. This things change very often when you are literally a child
Yeah. But they also showed her high school pictures and yes i feel like she did something.. But it doesn't matter coz I love her and she is my bias too.. so plastic surgery or not! It's all fine!😌
Some people need to understand that someone has all the rights over their body and can do whatever they want to it, but the only problem is when the person actually had surgery but denies the claims since it promotes unrealistic beauty standards. but in case of knetizens specifically, they shame people for being natural and not fitting the beauty standard and they also shame those who got the surgery 'SiNcE iT's nOt ReAL"
@@mxbail3729 are you mad? .... Real beautiful people don't need Korean cosmetic plastic surgery. They don't have good appearance. That's why they need Korean cosmetic plastic surgery. Natural beauty is real beauty ... Okay
@@user-uh1dd2jb2p we all do things to look better, like putting makeup on, wear nice clothes or using skincare products, it's the same with plastic surgery, we all have fake beauty then lol
@@mxbail3729 how to compare Korean cosmetic plastic surgery with make up... Are you mad? Korean cosmetic plastic surgery can't compare with make up. make up is nothing. but korean cosmetic plastic surgery do get beautiful nose, eyes, lips and skin surgery ( I mean exuse skin get good shape ) Korea is world number 1 cosmetic plastic surgery country... Koreans people are so fake....
As a Westerner, I’m like “what’s the big deal?” As long as did it for themselves to be happy not for their fans or entertainment companies, I see not wrong with them enhancing or tweaking their features. And to the “fans” who get mad at the content creators, please grow up and be respectful. I don’t judge anyone for their life choices and decisions, it’s not place or life. I believe in plastic surgery as long as you are doing it for self.
LMAO, these fans are so crazy. Seoul is literally the capital of plastic surgery in the world. Just accept that ALL celebs want to look beautiful and sometimes in order to achieve that, they have to undergo procedures.
Please stop saying cosmetic surgery is completely fine! Because it isn't. It instil insecurity and promotes unnecessary vanity. People should focus on meaningful things that enrich their lives.
we actually shouldnt care if our idols get plastic surgery or not. we stan them for the talent and not their looks. if they are more comfortable and happy with their new look we should appreciate it as well. ITS OKAY to have plastic surgery
Most funny is those fans writing comments about how the experienced surgeons who have done thousands surgeries and can identify them , hate their faves like bruh 😂 saying u "hate them, won't be successful like them blah blah "
I think while analyzing , doctors should use the no make up pictures to explain if its related with eyes or cheeks , etc....because make up can do wonders in enhancing one's visuals.........
I like how here people are not making a issue of idols having plastic surgery in spite of this they are accepting their decision unlike some fans who never accept and gets angry .
The main thing that disgust me is people saying that it is just glow up or makeup If they feel more comfortable with their new look there is nothing wrong Those fans who say its just makeup or puberty make me throw up i love all of them and there is nothing wrong with ps I dont think there are much celebrities with out any ps 95% kpop idols have done something And there is nothing wrong
Plastic surgery is obviously common but the accusations of PS is more common than fans defending them. There were numerous times when PS has been disproven when idols take off their makeup. There is also no way to claim PS when you take a picture from when you were younger than 10 and take an adult photo to claim things like jaw surgery or nose jobs, unless it is very obvious. There's nothing wrong with ps, but let's be honest, people play devil's advocate and blame ps even when it may not be.
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 yeah i remember when felix was bashed for ps and he said he did not have any ps it was not his fault but also he apologized i just feel bad for him he is my bias even if he was not my bias i would have felt bad for him and i think people should stop assuming even if u r giving example of ps dont give any names bcoz it might affect them or they might not have had anything
As Korean I’ll tell you some secret stuffs about eyelids bcs I have a lot of problems with them. Eyelids are not stable at all. What they will be depends on what time did you go to sleep, what time did you wake up and HOW did you open your eyes, what did you eat and drink yesterday, how heavy was your makeup and did you rub your eyes or not. To be honest eyelids like a Russian Roulettes, you don’t know will you have a big eyelids today or not.. Yesterday I had a perfect doll eyelids, but today I don’t have it at all… so if someone suddenly have a eyelids bigger than yesterday it doesn’t mean that he or she did a plastic surgery, maybe he just got lucky today. Plus! When we grow up our eyelids grows up too. We may not have eyelids when we was a kid, but we will when we grow up. So again, they are just so not stable at all(((
I have to agree with that and I’m not Korean but still, I’m Asian. My problem is rubbing my eyes a lot year round because of allergies… my eyes are not both the same. My bottom eye bags are different too because one side of my cheeks have a dimple. I don’t have symmetry eye bags when I smile.
for me, plastic surgery should be normalized because most of the idols have done something on their faces, but the only thing that i really don't like about it is the reaction of the public netizens. they don't need to hate on someone just for doing those, and for someone who's defending them, it is literally okay but it's not right to say they're 100% natural or not because no one really knows the truth besides the idols themselves.
I thought the same thing after watching Dr, Youn's video about Jungkook. The the supposed before and after photos he used were not from the time period he thought. I think he might have had a subtle nose job, but I think his eyes are natural. All good. I only object to when fans try and compare themselves to these 'Perfect" gorgeous idols...when we all could look better if we had their resources!
I've remembered Sullyoon was also mentioned by the same doctors though I personally had already seen that.... All in all it 💯 Percent okay and makes idols feel free in their skin, those that are Korean understand it.
Jungkook having the surgery or not having still looks cute and charming as ever, his baby photos, his teen photos, his adult photos shows nth but cuteness and charisma, he is perfect no matter how he looks
About Jisoo I think her nose is (actually) everything is natural not only because her siblings looks the same, but also she had bruised her nose in one of their concert, i don't think things put inside her nose will show the bruise.
He created that plastic surgery is not bad, what does bother me is that they sell that in Korea they are all beautiful and natural and it is not! There are also ugly people and a lot of them! and it's not bad, it's normal!,....., my cousin went to Korea for jaw reconstruction surgery because he had a very serious car accident and there are experts in that area!, since they totally change a face and we were surprised to see folders of his doctor's work; There were almost all the groups with some exceptions and they were radical changes: BTS, BLACKPINk, TWICE, RED VELVET, NCT, STRAY KIDS..........,next etc...., they create false perfection! and they criticize those who are real and natural! For me the most natural are the Chinese actors and singers! They are able to go out even without makeup and I know they look great! I am pro to natural! and to our imperfections, to the simple!, there is nothing wrong with being ugly and attractive at the same time!, that perfection is not real okay
Many chinese actors and singers have gotten under the knife though so they're not an exception😂Many celebs in Hollywood have as well so it's really not exclusive to Korea
Those people denying what the doctors said are talking like surgery means having a complete face reconstruction. Come on, they have done several things but they continue to have their original features that it's barely noticeable that they have done something
As for some people saying tyuzu and jisoo had ps lemme clear this up The surgeon tik tok uses magazine photos and we know that magazine photos are edited and photoshoped so its stupid to use those pics and also the plastic surgeon also uses childhood photos and our face changes a lot with time so he should've used predebut pics instead of childhood pics Now ps isnt a crime and im not defending jisoo or tyuzu its okay to have ps but its not okay when you are accusing others of having ps when in reality they really didnt about jennie i feel like she might or might have not goten surgery i do feel like she only had one surgery
@@blackangel8581 yeah they should use no make-up pics which are not edited so we can see the difference and they should use predebut photos rather than child pics
Also the jungkook eyelid one doesnt make sense. He is laughing in the first photo and anybody's eylids will sink while laughing especially when he was just 15 when he debuted. If people need to compare them, then they should atleast use photos from same angles, and same position.
I am for accepting idol surgeries but taking the words of "surgeons" who spend their time speculating without evidence on tiktok or YT as the truth, frankly, there is better as a source. Not to mention that the photos on which these "professionals" rely have different angles and the idols wear makeup. People, use some common sense, not every idols feel the need to have plastc surgeries, and to say otherwise is really stupid. Just like those videos, on those kind of channels, that perpetuate those speculations, whether proven or not, just for views. People are really gullible. Ps. Flash news, comparing idols before and after their puberty is very stupid, as they grow older, their features and faces become more refined and charp. I also advise you to see videos of people after their weight loss, you have the impression of not seeing the same person, and these idols are also in this case by losing their "baby" features.
they won't even bother because they said they have all the "evidences" all of them are even taken from different angles. They show the viewers different pictures, from difference dates, from different angles. Why don't they just show pictures in different days but in the same angle? It also has something to do with the quality of the camera and lighting. How would they be so sure when they don't even know photography and how lightings changes everything. They sure seem so confident. I have a male cousin who's nose looked like he did a rhinoplasty (but didn't) because of the straight line these surgeons keep talking about. Do they even think about how fatigue changes the eyes? How the face shape changes with diets and puberty? (Baby fats)
Getting plastic surgery is not a crime. Just bc someone says that an idol got plastic surgery doesn't mean that they should get hate for pointing them out. Btw, they were approved proffesionals who were only trying to inform others politely, not accuse them in a bad way
about Jungkook i've been an Army for soo long i just went through his pictures from pre debut to recent ones and in my opinion i think he has got something done with his eyes but for a nose job i don't think that's the case just go through his side profile of 2013-2014 and 2022 you won't see any difference even from the front most of the times its the make-up look or the angle of the picture . and according to the surgeon who said that jk has got a nose job he also said that 'growth, weight gain, and even makeup can create some variation in the face. If some works were done on BTS Jungkook's face, the surgeon said it is not major cosmetic surgery. (THIS IS MY OPINION) any way either he has done it or not why should it bother us , it's his face his wish
The fact that his nose use to be so big and fleshy but suddenly shrink with age when noses actually get bigger with age is a sign of nose job but armys, his akgaes and shippers will rather die than to admit it
@@QueenDenike but from my experience i used to have a quite big nose when i was young but then now as an adult it has shrinked a lot seriously naturally but anyway even if he has got something done as i said it was his wish ,his face soo i should not bother us he looks handsome and thats it
@@JungkookBestBoy1 can stop with the puberty nonsense like its one special thing. Everybody went through puberty and it doesn't reshape your nose nor reduce the size
@@QueenDenike Says only urself. If you actually did your research and not just talk from your 2 brain cells it says nose changes when you get older + puberty. so y tryna deny the fact so badly?
Well it’s their choice and getting a plastic surgery is not bad,they are still talented. Even if they have plastic surgery,they are still beautiful and confident
I mean they r professionals its their job they know it better than we do plus Korea is known for surgery so I guess to make them look more pretty it's possible
is EASY to prove that Jisoo is NATURAL, her JAW is not EVEN at all ... if she had somthing this would be fixed too . Jisoo has VENERS ... thats why her teth are bigger i size than normal ones and projects her upper lip too much .. Just like STAyC´s member called "J" . its very easy to spot : ) besides Venners Jisoo is natural for sure
Lighting, angles, makeup can affect a person's view in a picture unless they're physically assessed for their face then I would believe the surgeon especially the content creators cuz they have the privilege to rate and analyse whether someone had gone through certain procedures or not.
As someone with hooded and double eyelids, my eyelids stood out a lot when applied with makeup, so it might look like I only had double eyelids. It also might be the same case for these idols.
But when asked about plastic surgeries they shouldn't deny it, some fans hate that they can't look like their faves which is apparently done with surgeries to reach that unreal standards.
Surgeon's - we are experts we know a lot about procedures because we perform them ourselves Toxic fans - no we know more even though we are not surgeons or experts but we definately know more.
It's Okay to have a plastic surgery because everyone has right to look beautiful there's no crime to have a plastic surgery , so we should respect them whether they had plastic surgery or not
The reason why many ppl don't want to accept their idol's surgery because ppl might use it as a reason to hate idols and compared them to others But Otherwise surgery is very normal
once! TWICE is coming back on 27 July 2022 with their 4th Japanese album! please watch it once! use one account per view in the first 24 hours otherwise it will be counted as spam
I would only comment on Jisoo here. I remember watching Lorry Hill’s episode on Jisoo and she said that the only thing she think Jisoo had done is maybe get dental veneers to get a perfect set of teeth. She mentioned the other procedures but even upon consulting with the said Dr. Lee, they cannot find enough evidence to come into a conclusion; also they mentioned her eyes look the same as her brother’s so this makes the claim on work done on her eyes difficult to confirm. Also even until recently, Jisoo’s “crooked” nostril still shows even in her magazine photoshoots-it was even reported I think last year when people noticed something odd about her nose. And it was indeed because something was crooked naturally and she hadn’t done anything about it. Also looking at some of her pre-debut photos, she looked the same-she just lost baby fat on her face, which she also mentioned in their Netflix docu. Finally, there are two parts of our face that change over time-nose and ears. They can change naturally with age. I am not saying plastic surgery is bad (as long as it doesn’t ruin your face and it makes you more confident, and you have the means to do so, then go for it; and there are also times when plastic surgery is needed to correct a health problem, for example a deviated septum-but that’s off-topic I know). As much as I like looking at idols, I love hearing and watching them perform and do other things. I just wanted to point that thing about Jisoo’s case.
I heard a celebrity once say that 99% of celebrities have probably had some work done. Visuals are one of, if not the most important part of kpop. I don’t have an issue with them getting work done because it’s literally apart of their job!
I completely agree with the surgeons I mean none of us are experts so how can we know? And what's wrong with them getting it doesn't affect anything other than them looking stunning All the surgeries were well hidden so if they didn't point it out we would still be oblivious It shouldn't matter what they had done But Irene was expected and unexpected because she is the original visual but then again I haven't been a reveluv for that long and I can see the difference in the music videos But one thing I am curious about is sullyhoon from nmixx she is so stunning but it gives me a weird vibe especially her lips
@@kiranlimbu491 Trust your own judgement, it's better that way than trusting the claims of other people who are so sure about what they're saying as if they're the ones who did them. No matter how much years you've spend being a surgeon, that doesn't qualify someone being always right. Even experienced senior doctors misdiagnose. Notice how they're always going for the most popular members? Whenever a viewer/commenter ask if this idol and that idol has done plastic surgery, these surgeons always have something to say and say that they've had work done. Ironic how they say all the idols the commenters ask for have done surgery but then proceeding to say that they haven't.
Young fans should realize that 1) Plastic surgery is a common practice in SK 2) The beauty standards and expectations are crazy high 3) A good number of idols (ie. Blackpink) come from well-off families that could afford to pay for those procedures, and even if they didn't have the means to do it, some agencies actually pay for said procedures. Based on these factors and more, it should come as no surprise that your idols have done cosmetic and plastic surgeries to achieve the look that so many of you envy. All in all, don't shame them for having plastic surgery but definitely don't praise them as deities and undermine your own looks. edit: typo
Source: dude trust me not you making a video based off of the most clout chasing "surgeons" on the internet. They will carefully select the pictures they use to prove their point, without actually paying attention to photos from the same time period that prove them completely wrong. This is less of "plastic surgery bad!" And more this is a low and weird way to degrade people
Even if they are so called "clout chasers" it's true all of them have plastic surgery done. Moreover I'm so tired of seeing surgeons being called "clout chasers" . If you're having that much of trust issues from a professional plastic surgeon then at this point become one then. And about picture angles it's pretty obvious plastic surgeon would use those to prove their point because you can clearly see what procedures were done. Your comment makes no sense.
There are comments where"Dont disagree with proffesianals"but for artist such as jisoo and sana were from magazines and photos of albums and they most likely edited. Dont post a video saying an idol had plastic surgery after posting one where you said the opisitte. At the very least adress the missinfarmation and don't spread rumours.
I love how you didn't mention that in her video, Lori also said that Jisoo is probably all natural since it her visual seem to run in her family with how her brother look. Also with how her older sister look basically like her, it doesn't seem like she got any work done. And you can see she always look the same with her low makeup look in snowdrop and her predebut photos before becoming a YG training. Another predebut photo that was take with low quality show Jisoo nose looking the same as in the photo the surgeon showed. I don't care if kpop idols do PS. But i don't like when people spread misinformation on my favs. Especially with how sensitive and rude some people are in the internet, the wrong info can lead to alot of backlash and hate.
@@israbouich271 are we still talking about Jisoo here? Tell me in which photo she look different. And please don't say that photo where she was in middle school with that ugly haircut. Because except for the hair not matching her, she still look exactly the same with just more baby fat.
@@ya_done so now we going to claim that Jisoo siblings also had plastic surgery so we can also prove that Jisoo did it? And they say fans are delutional for claiming their idols didn't do PS when other peoples are desperately reaching to prove otherwise. Again, compare Jisoo predebut photos with how she look in snowdrop and then comeback here.
Not every perfect face shape human has a ps... jisoo is actually natural.if they actually see her pre debuted and other childhood photos expect that ( bangs photo that mostly people use and claim that she was gone under ps) in that photo she just has a baby fat.even her whole family has a visual.. even ps is not clear that she goes under ps or not..and according to her some childhood photos and adult s photos of predebute she look same just puberty her her not ps.. My opinion..
I don't mind that they do plastic surgery, but when a normal person watches them, he gets frustrated and says why are they all so beautiful. What I want to say is that no one is perfect, just admit, WE ARE HUMANS
First of all, I'm sure most of the idols got plastic surgeries and it's completely fine They still look gorgeous as ever I hate it when ppl use it as an insult Eg. "Plastic Visual *adds disgusted emojis" etc yk what I mean
*Get your info right and say something that actually makes sense tzuyu didn't do any plastic surgery you can see in her recent photos that her nose is the same the picture the doctor chose was from a different angle plus her mom herself clarified that her daughter (tzuyu) didn't have any surgery done to her face*
Kpop stans say they are fine if idols get surgery but defend their idols so much when their idols get accused of surgery. I just wanna let you guys know even 14 year olds in korea get surgery . Its very common to get surgery deal with it. Your oppa isnt natural
If these idols had plastic surgery, I just hope they did it for themselves and were not forced to do it by their respective companies. It's a personal choice and doesn't really affect my love for them. There is such an emphasis on visuals and appearance that it would be unrealistic to think that all of it was "natural".
I don't see why this matters? I know it's just a UA-cam video and nothing to take seriously, but I do find it annoying. So what they got some plastic surgery? I personally would think it would mean more of they weren't forced by their companies, but in the end it not the end of the world
childhood photos are not a good way of pointing out if someone had or hadn't got any plastic surgery (not 100% in some cases, but maybe in some cases it it.), for example my sister on childhood photos look diffrent then now (she didn't have any plastic surgery), when you grow up things can change in and on you, just like your eyes or hair color, it can get darker or lighter. I'm not saying that they didn't get one, if they did then good for them i guess, if they didn't then they didn't.
@@youssrairene9280 yeah but i do think that because of makeup people start looking a bit different some people make their nose appear slim because of contouring and since kpop idols have some of the best makeup artists it is possible
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 contour can only do so much the majority of kpop idols if not all retouched their noses and it's ok if i was korean and i had access to all that non invasive unapparent plastic surgery I'd have retouched my nose to their society really value outer beauty , too much sometimes even for normal people so imagine the pressure on idols
Ur right physical features do change when u r older PS isn't a bad thing because not only in Korea it happens every where even when ur not in this type of industry , everyone judge u ur relative , friends ,family it's our society which pressurize u
About JK, I noticed that already way before. There's nothing wrong, for me these type of surgeries just enhances their beauty. Those surgeons are freaking amazing at their job💅🙇♀️ When I got job and money in the near future I am planning to balance out the left and right side of my face, nothing too much cuz I can't handle pain😂
I don't who to trust anymore I don't have problem with plastic surgery but at least admit that you have done it So people can know not everytime features are that much perfect They still look like Angels
I don’t understand why fans are upset and in disbelief like this are doctors with experience they aren’t gonna lie and the plastic surgery is a normal thing in korea and among the kpop industry « the perfect beauty » from birth just doesn’t exist so its normal for idols to do so to up great their looks to meet the standards
@@jaylynpayne1 she said it looks "originally pretty". Stop being childish. If you don't agree with me then agree to disagree and move on, and there is NOTHING original, natural or authentic about getting facial surgery. I SAID WHAT I SAID. BYE!!!!!
can I just say that Wanna One/CIX Bae, SVT Joshua, Dreamcatcher Jiu, TWICE Mina, Treasure Yoshi are underrated visuals? Like how can people not include these and few other idols when talking about visual
I think a lot of times when it's done before debut its the company changing their image and it's kind of sick because its permanent and I'm sure some of them feel they have no choice but to do it or they'll miss out on their dream, some kpop idols look tooooo perfect after surgeries and i truly feel bad for them..
i never thought jisoo would have got plastic surgery but she is as beautiful as she is i love her for her 4D personality, her voice and her cuteness in everything she does i seriously don't care if she had plastic surgery she is always one of the unique visuals to me and i don't like when this "plastic surgery" and "beauty" topic comes in ur channel i loved how u defended them saying plastic surgery is completely normal but pls don't bring these types of topic up
@@hachiko7135 that's great if she has kept her original beauty and even if it's plastic surgery it's completely normal as i said i really don't care if she had plastic surgery or not. Thanks for the info!
as we grow ,mainly in the teen years ,our features do change and it doesnt mean that someone had gone through plastic surgery or something ,, my nose looks completely different when i compare to my photos of age 13 ,14 to my pesent ones 15.
Why do you think many people still don't approve of Kpop idols' plastic surgery? 👀
Because they dumb💀
honestly, if you see, most people and fans really dont care weather an idol had plastic surgery or not, its just a topic antis just like to poke around. Also people dont care abt plastic surgery on idols unless they actually went through procedures and then lie that the didnt since it promotes unrealistic beauty standards.
@@user13592 totally agree with you
sis/bro
@@solostansareclowns1544 well jisoo's did
Ikr. They can do it cause its there life. I don't know why people don't still approve it
Imagine telling a professional surgeon who did hundreds if not thousands of surgery in his entire career "ur just jealous"
you hv a point, im ugly laughing, lmao, so true
Honestly 😂
Ironic in fact😂
Fr- seems like they're jealous and not the surgeon
They are just stupid 🤣🤣 and keep standing for idols who like to be liars too
They do korean cosmetic plastic surgery because they don't have beautiful face
As a Korean myself, plastic surgery is common. For me it's not a big deal and most Kpop idols do it for themselves and for their fans as well. Overprotective fans need to accept this truth once and for all.
Your nose and some facial structures won't change once you hit puberty.
You deserve a greater audience. You see, you're absolutely right but I don't know why Plastic surgery is still a controversial act in kpop. More and more people should accept the truth to normalize this issue.
Yea im not korean or anything, but based off korean commenters, i heard that plastic surgery is pretty common in korea
True but most are offended as they think everyone must be natural. Being natural is of course better but many cannot accept their natural looks. However, if anyone gets plastic surgery, they should have the courage to admit it.
@@bphatersrotinhell5445 right,its not like they killed somebody.pointing it out is okay but attacking the person for having ps is just lame.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj true and being naturally "beautiful" is not an achievement. it ain't better. not like the "natural beauties" won some competition in mom's womb to get that "perfect face"
we "ugly" people are discriminated because we don't fit the society's standards. But when we put our earned money on our face to fit in and to be treated better, we are criticized. double standards out there huh? I didn't commit a crime to get "ugly" face. neither did "ulzzang" people do something noble to get that "perfect face" that they are praised about. pretty privilege exists and hurts a lot.
end of my rant lol
Imagine 12 year old kpop stans arguing with PROFESSIONAL surgeons who went to school for years and performed thousands of procedures
Brooo😂
Kpopers claiming they don't care if idols have done plastic surgery but then writing essays to prove their favs haven't it is the definition of hypocrisy
Its ok to have surgery whats not ok is when the idol actually didnt had but people are saying he/she did the best example of this would be sullyoon from nmixx sbe didnt had surgery but people are claming she did when her predebut pics looks so damn similar im not a fan of nmixx tho
@rebma slmbr ikr
Because deep down they view people who has gone under the knife as a lesser beauty than people who have never done it.It's why they act like a hypocrite the second some surgeons points out the possibility of their idols getting some work done
@@aureliajesical.1569 well, i do honestly. i, with no doubt, dont like idols who hd done ps but well, almost every idol did it. i def consider ps as fake beauty because it is indeed a fake beauty gotten by undergoing knife. so. i dont hate the idols coz bruh, it is their life but i also wont appreciate it cause come on, it aint evn natural.
@@jinnxx2729 I share your opinion on plastic surgery as well,but I won't shame or belittle people who have done it.I respect their reasons for it and it's their body so they can do whatever they want with it
people need to understand that plastic surgery is not a crime!!!
Yes
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 i ate felix's brownies
@@yanyan_yanayiee felix wants to know you location
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 im at bangchans house
@@yanyan_yanayiee woah felix is coming
I also think that Irene's surgery was one of the best done ever, she was already naturally beautiful and with some little touches she became even more beautiful to the point she's become the standard on visuals just besides yoona.
The aforementioned idols underwent cosmetic surgery💗؟
she isn’t natural
@@irneaa i never said she was though
@@gomi3341 hmmmm but many fans think that
Besides Irene, Yoona also has done PS.. It's totally not wrong, but what makes me perplexed was because how her fans being delusional and claims the idol 💯 natural beauty
It's interesting to see how people react to different idols having PS. In this video there's a lot of fans saying “Plastic surgery isn't bad. or even admitting that your face changes naturally over time. But on another video with different idols there was a lot of comments that contradict today's.
That's how I noticed. They are only in favor if it's their faves. But bash other idols.
Legit, I found it so annoying how people feel comfortable straight up saying "Oh, this idol had plastic surgery". Like do people really need to know that???
@@yaako887 Yes, people who influences teens and kids should actually be more open about their PS. Young minds dont know the difference and create illogical standards for themselves. One of my friend is at the verge of developing an ED. I am not blaming people who have works on their face but unlike Jessi, most idols dont talk about it upfront. Also its one thing to do PS for health issues and another to achieve a beauty standard. You cannot talk about "self-love" and contradict that by going under the knife to achieve a standard set by other people. A fat blunt nose and a slim sharp nose serves the same purpose so putting one above the other is stupid. Also you can find slim sharp nose more attractive than a fat and blunt one but that doesnt mean your treatment towards both should be different. Pretty privilege should be looked down upon by the same way we look down upon people who get rich by corruption.
Quite a long essay but I hope I was able to put the message across.
Yeah ..exactly they are a bunch of hypocrites..especially thise spineless army...
just to come clearly, studies are telling that PS and wearing makeup is contributing to fake beauty standards.
people who can not afford it..are heavily criticized...that's why suicide is so high in that country
Same, it seems to be a topic that generates mixed reactions
If the idols are comfortable to get plastic surgeries it’s up to them , but if the company forces them when they don’t want to that’s what matters
Agree
Uhhh oh that's scary.
I honestly couldn't care less about idols getting plastic surgerys or not, but in jisoo's case- comparing baby and childhood photo to how she looks as an adult? My nose was small and cute when I was a child and now it's big and not that pretty lol. This things change very often when you are literally a child
agreed! faces can change in appearance from child, even adolescents, to adulthood
True
Yeah. But they also showed her high school pictures and yes i feel like she did something.. But it doesn't matter coz I love her and she is my bias too.. so plastic surgery or not! It's all fine!😌
Whether she did it or not, she’s still pretty :> Anways if she did then the doctors did a good job
Off the topic but I can relate to your username 🥲
Some people need to understand that someone has all the rights over their body and can do whatever they want to it, but the only problem is when the person actually had surgery but denies the claims since it promotes unrealistic beauty standards.
but in case of knetizens specifically, they shame people for being natural and not fitting the beauty standard and they also shame those who got the surgery 'SiNcE iT's nOt ReAL"
Wether they got plastic surgery or not, it is totally fine. We love them no matter what
But fake beauty
@@user-uh1dd2jb2p beauty is beauty, it doesn't matter if its natural or fake
@@mxbail3729 are you mad? .... Real beautiful people don't need Korean cosmetic plastic surgery.
They don't have good appearance. That's why they need Korean cosmetic plastic surgery.
Natural beauty is real beauty ... Okay
@@user-uh1dd2jb2p we all do things to look better, like putting makeup on, wear nice clothes or using skincare products, it's the same with plastic surgery, we all have fake beauty then lol
@@mxbail3729 how to compare Korean cosmetic plastic surgery with make up... Are you mad? Korean cosmetic plastic surgery can't compare with make up. make up is nothing.
but korean cosmetic plastic surgery do get beautiful nose, eyes, lips and skin surgery ( I mean exuse skin get good shape )
Korea is world number 1 cosmetic plastic surgery country... Koreans people are so fake....
even Irene did PS or not , before she did those or not she was still so pretty
As a Westerner, I’m like “what’s the big deal?” As long as did it for themselves to be happy not for their fans or entertainment companies, I see not wrong with them enhancing or tweaking their features. And to the “fans” who get mad at the content creators, please grow up and be respectful. I don’t judge anyone for their life choices and decisions, it’s not place or life. I believe in plastic surgery as long as you are doing it for self.
LMAO, these fans are so crazy. Seoul is literally the capital of plastic surgery in the world. Just accept that ALL celebs want to look beautiful and sometimes in order to achieve that, they have to undergo procedures.
the fact that people STILL think plastic surgery is a bad thing is really concerning
Please stop saying cosmetic surgery is completely fine!
Because it isn't. It instil insecurity and promotes unnecessary vanity.
People should focus on meaningful things that enrich their lives.
we actually shouldnt care if our idols get plastic surgery or not. we stan them for the talent and not their looks. if they are more comfortable and happy with their new look we should appreciate it as well. ITS OKAY to have plastic surgery
Most funny is those fans writing comments about how the experienced surgeons who have done thousands surgeries and can identify them , hate their faves like bruh 😂 saying u "hate them, won't be successful like them blah blah "
Literally 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think while analyzing , doctors should use the no make up pictures to explain if its related with eyes or cheeks , etc....because make up can do wonders in enhancing one's visuals.........
Yes
I like how here people are not making a issue of idols having plastic surgery in spite of this they are accepting their decision unlike some fans who never accept and gets angry .
The main thing that disgust me is people saying that it is just glow up or makeup
If they feel more comfortable with their new look there is nothing wrong
Those fans who say its just makeup or puberty make me throw up i love all of them and there is nothing wrong with ps
I dont think there are much celebrities with out any ps
95% kpop idols have done something
And there is nothing wrong
Plastic surgery is obviously common but the accusations of PS is more common than fans defending them. There were numerous times when PS has been disproven when idols take off their makeup. There is also no way to claim PS when you take a picture from when you were younger than 10 and take an adult photo to claim things like jaw surgery or nose jobs, unless it is very obvious.
There's nothing wrong with ps, but let's be honest, people play devil's advocate and blame ps even when it may not be.
Its ok to have surgery whats not ok is when the idol actually didnt had but people are saying he/she did
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 yeah i remember when felix was bashed for ps and he said he did not have any ps it was not his fault but also he apologized i just feel bad for him he is my bias even if he was not my bias i would have felt bad for him and i think people should stop assuming even if u r giving example of ps dont give any names bcoz it might affect them or they might not have had anything
@@122...9 i agree
I still see some lunatcs trying to argue that Ariana Grande went through puberty. I swear I can't believe this shit!!!
As Korean I’ll tell you some secret stuffs about eyelids bcs I have a lot of problems with them. Eyelids are not stable at all. What they will be depends on what time did you go to sleep, what time did you wake up and HOW did you open your eyes, what did you eat and drink yesterday, how heavy was your makeup and did you rub your eyes or not. To be honest eyelids like a Russian Roulettes, you don’t know will you have a big eyelids today or not.. Yesterday I had a perfect doll eyelids, but today I don’t have it at all… so if someone suddenly have a eyelids bigger than yesterday it doesn’t mean that he or she did a plastic surgery, maybe he just got lucky today. Plus! When we grow up our eyelids grows up too. We may not have eyelids when we was a kid, but we will when we grow up.
So again, they are just so not stable at all(((
I have to agree with that and I’m not Korean but still, I’m Asian. My problem is rubbing my eyes a lot year round because of allergies… my eyes are not both the same. My bottom eye bags are different too because one side of my cheeks have a dimple. I don’t have symmetry eye bags when I smile.
Okay are not those doctors who are talking about surgeries are Asians too?
for me, plastic surgery should be normalized because most of the idols have done something on their faces, but the only thing that i really don't like about it is the reaction of the public netizens. they don't need to hate on someone just for doing those, and for someone who's defending them, it is literally okay but it's not right to say they're 100% natural or not because no one really knows the truth besides the idols themselves.
ps should be normalised... lol
The bigger the fan base, the harder they’ll deny it lol
I thought the same thing after watching Dr, Youn's video about Jungkook. The the supposed before and after photos he used were not from the time period he thought. I think he might have had a subtle nose job, but I think his eyes are natural. All good.
I only object to when fans try and compare themselves to these 'Perfect" gorgeous idols...when we all could look better if we had their resources!
Look at his face without makeup. His nose also still the same for me 🤷
I've remembered Sullyoon was also mentioned by the same doctors though I personally had already seen that.... All in all it 💯 Percent okay and makes idols feel free in their skin, those that are Korean understand it.
Even Sullyoon ??? Haha after so many pics before her debut 🤣
Ys she had done some
She certainly didn't need it!😩
Plastic surgery isn't a scandal
If anyone wants a sergery, they can get it done.
so expensive tho, if i had the money i’d definitely get a nose job 😭
@@hyunlixxie2662 they said plastic surgery in korea is cheap? you need to go there first tho.. haha
@@chaerful any where else it’s pretty expensive here it ranges from 18k-30k AED depending on ur case, i know in America it’s around 9-15k $$ 😅😅
@@hyunlixxie2662 😅
The wrong is they are accusing SOME of the idols of having a plastic surgery but in reality they didn't do it.
Jungkook having the surgery or not having still looks cute and charming as ever, his baby photos, his teen photos, his adult photos shows nth but cuteness and charisma, he is perfect no matter how he looks
I don't get it that fucking surgeries is still being a problem like god can't you'll just now accept even if they have surgeries...
About Jisoo I think her nose is (actually) everything is natural not only because her siblings looks the same, but also she had bruised her nose in one of their concert, i don't think things put inside her nose will show the bruise.
You must think the implant is under a skin and not flesh 😂
Lol, have you seen the face of someone who just got a rhinoplasty? 😂😂😂 They're just one huge bruise.
The tissue above is still human flesh
😂💀
He created that plastic surgery is not bad, what does bother me is that they sell that in Korea they are all beautiful and natural and it is not! There are also ugly people and a lot of them! and it's not bad, it's normal!,....., my cousin went to Korea for jaw reconstruction surgery because he had a very serious car accident and there are experts in that area!, since they totally change a face and we were surprised to see folders of his doctor's work; There were almost all the groups with some exceptions and they were radical changes: BTS, BLACKPINk, TWICE, RED VELVET, NCT, STRAY KIDS..........,next etc...., they create false perfection! and they criticize those who are real and natural! For me the most natural are the Chinese actors and singers! They are able to go out even without makeup and I know they look great! I am pro to natural! and to our imperfections, to the simple!, there is nothing wrong with being ugly and attractive at the same time!, that perfection is not real okay
Many chinese actors and singers have gotten under the knife though so they're not an exception😂Many celebs in Hollywood have as well so it's really not exclusive to Korea
Those people denying what the doctors said are talking like surgery means having a complete face reconstruction. Come on, they have done several things but they continue to have their original features that it's barely noticeable that they have done something
As for some people saying tyuzu and jisoo had ps lemme clear this up
The surgeon tik tok uses magazine photos and we know that magazine photos are edited and photoshoped so its stupid to use those pics and also the plastic surgeon also uses childhood photos and our face changes a lot with time so he should've used predebut pics instead of childhood pics
Now ps isnt a crime and im not defending jisoo or tyuzu its okay to have ps but its not okay when you are accusing others of having ps when in reality they really didnt about jennie i feel like she might or might have not goten surgery i do feel like she only had one surgery
Though I agree with your points, I don’t think they would photoshop uneven nostrils lol
I also think the same . They should use more clear before and after photos .
@@blackangel8581 yeah they should use no make-up pics which are not edited so we can see the difference and they should use predebut photos rather than child pics
your nose only gets bigger with age not smaller, so jisoo probably got ps.
Also the jungkook eyelid one doesnt make sense. He is laughing in the first photo and anybody's eylids will sink while laughing especially when he was just 15 when he debuted. If people need to compare them, then they should atleast use photos from same angles, and same position.
I am for accepting idol surgeries but taking the words of "surgeons" who spend their time speculating without evidence on tiktok or YT as the truth, frankly, there is better as a source.
Not to mention that the photos on which these "professionals" rely have different angles and the idols wear makeup.
People, use some common sense, not every idols feel the need to have plastc surgeries, and to say otherwise is really stupid.
Just like those videos, on those kind of channels, that perpetuate those speculations, whether proven or not, just for views.
People are really gullible.
Ps. Flash news, comparing idols before and after their puberty is very stupid, as they grow older, their features and faces become more refined and charp.
I also advise you to see videos of people after their weight loss, you have the impression of not seeing the same person, and these idols are also in this case by losing their "baby" features.
This a good message that no one is born perfect and, that we should love people for their personality and talents rather than looks.
The plastic surgeon should use no makeup pics because make up makes it hard to tell whether they had or didnt
they won't even bother because they said they have all the "evidences" all of them are even taken from different angles. They show the viewers different pictures, from difference dates, from different angles. Why don't they just show pictures in different days but in the same angle? It also has something to do with the quality of the camera and lighting. How would they be so sure when they don't even know photography and how lightings changes everything. They sure seem so confident. I have a male cousin who's nose looked like he did a rhinoplasty (but didn't) because of the straight line these surgeons keep talking about. Do they even think about how fatigue changes the eyes? How the face shape changes with diets and puberty? (Baby fats)
Getting plastic surgery is not a crime. Just bc someone says that an idol got plastic surgery doesn't mean that they should get hate for pointing them out. Btw, they were approved proffesionals who were only trying to inform others politely, not accuse them in a bad way
about Jungkook i've been an Army for soo long i just went through his pictures from pre debut to recent ones and in my opinion i think he has got something done with his eyes but for a nose job i don't think that's the case just go through his side profile of 2013-2014 and 2022 you won't see any difference even from the front most of the times its the make-up look or the angle of the picture .
and according to the surgeon who said that jk has got a nose job he also said that 'growth, weight gain, and even makeup can create some variation in the face. If some works were done on BTS Jungkook's face, the surgeon said it is not major cosmetic surgery.
(THIS IS MY OPINION)
any way either he has done it or not why should it bother us , it's his face his wish
The fact that his nose use to be so big and fleshy but suddenly shrink with age when noses actually get bigger with age is a sign of nose job but armys, his akgaes and shippers will rather die than to admit it
@@QueenDenike but from my experience i used to have a quite big nose when i was young but then now as an adult it has shrinked a lot seriously naturally but anyway even if he has got something done as i said it was his wish ,his face soo i should not bother us he looks handsome and thats it
@@QueenDenike puberty. n his nose doesn't look different much
@@JungkookBestBoy1 can stop with the puberty nonsense like its one special thing. Everybody went through puberty and it doesn't reshape your nose nor reduce the size
@@QueenDenike Says only urself. If you actually did your research and not just talk from your 2 brain cells it says nose changes when you get older + puberty. so y tryna deny the fact so badly?
Well it’s their choice and getting a plastic surgery is not bad,they are still talented.
Even if they have plastic surgery,they are still beautiful and confident
It's 2022, let's just accept that they've had some form of work done whether it's minor or major.
This is funny that fans are really trying to prove the experience doctor wrong like have this fans been doing plastic surgery to patients or what
I mean they r professionals its their job they know it better than we do plus Korea is known for surgery so I guess to make them look more pretty it's possible
I can't understand some fans they call idols ugly and after sending them under knife hate them bcuz of this
I stan them for talent and not for visual
People should understand it's their body they can do whatever the want.
Admire them love them appreciate them, but please provide them their own space
is EASY to prove that Jisoo is NATURAL, her JAW is not EVEN at all ... if she had somthing this would be fixed too .
Jisoo has VENERS ... thats why her teth are bigger i size than normal ones and projects her upper lip too much .. Just like STAyC´s member called "J" . its very easy to spot : ) besides Venners Jisoo is natural for sure
Lighting, angles, makeup can affect a person's view in a picture unless they're physically assessed for their face then I would believe the surgeon especially the content creators cuz they have the privilege to rate and analyse whether someone had gone through certain procedures or not.
As someone with hooded and double eyelids, my eyelids stood out a lot when applied with makeup, so it might look like I only had double eyelids. It also might be the same case for these idols.
But when asked about plastic surgeries they shouldn't deny it, some fans hate that they can't look like their faves which is apparently done with surgeries to reach that unreal standards.
Surgeon's - we are experts we know a lot about procedures because we perform them ourselves
Toxic fans - no we know more even though we are not surgeons or experts but we definately know more.
It's Okay to have a plastic surgery because everyone has right to look beautiful there's no crime to have a plastic surgery , so we should respect them whether they had plastic surgery or not
The reason why many ppl don't want to accept their idol's surgery because ppl might use it as a reason to hate idols and compared them to others
But Otherwise surgery is very normal
once! TWICE is coming back on 27 July 2022 with their 4th Japanese album! please watch it once! use one account per view in the first 24 hours otherwise it will be counted as spam
Battle of the fans and Surgeons 🤣🤣🤣. 1 for the professionals, 0 for the fans. Sorry not sorry
I would only comment on Jisoo here. I remember watching Lorry Hill’s episode on Jisoo and she said that the only thing she think Jisoo had done is maybe get dental veneers to get a perfect set of teeth. She mentioned the other procedures but even upon consulting with the said Dr. Lee, they cannot find enough evidence to come into a conclusion; also they mentioned her eyes look the same as her brother’s so this makes the claim on work done on her eyes difficult to confirm. Also even until recently, Jisoo’s “crooked” nostril still shows even in her magazine photoshoots-it was even reported I think last year when people noticed something odd about her nose. And it was indeed because something was crooked naturally and she hadn’t done anything about it. Also looking at some of her pre-debut photos, she looked the same-she just lost baby fat on her face, which she also mentioned in their Netflix docu. Finally, there are two parts of our face that change over time-nose and ears. They can change naturally with age. I am not saying plastic surgery is bad (as long as it doesn’t ruin your face and it makes you more confident, and you have the means to do so, then go for it; and there are also times when plastic surgery is needed to correct a health problem, for example a deviated septum-but that’s off-topic I know). As much as I like looking at idols, I love hearing and watching them perform and do other things. I just wanted to point that thing about Jisoo’s case.
I heard a celebrity once say that 99% of celebrities have probably had some work done. Visuals are one of, if not the most important part of kpop. I don’t have an issue with them getting work done because it’s literally apart of their job!
I completely agree with the surgeons
I mean none of us are experts so how can we know?
And what's wrong with them getting it doesn't affect anything other than them looking stunning
All the surgeries were well hidden so if they didn't point it out we would still be oblivious
It shouldn't matter what they had done
But Irene was expected and unexpected because she is the original visual but then again I haven't been a reveluv for that long and I can see the difference in the music videos
But one thing I am curious about is sullyhoon from nmixx she is so stunning but it gives me a weird vibe especially her lips
Blackpink’s contract says that the idols cannot have plastic surgery, so-
so? companies cant lie? lmao delulu stans at it again
The idols getting or not getting plastic surgery is something for them to know, and for us to not know 🙃😂,so just leave them alone
Ok now you are comparing baby photo's of jisoo like for real. It can be puberty also
For reals and also they did another video saying she never went under the knife and now this
@@hachiko7135 they just want to spread humors . And now i don't even know if i should trust them or not😑
@@kiranlimbu491 Trust your own judgement, it's better that way than trusting the claims of other people who are so sure about what they're saying as if they're the ones who did them. No matter how much years you've spend being a surgeon, that doesn't qualify someone being always right. Even experienced senior doctors misdiagnose. Notice how they're always going for the most popular members? Whenever a viewer/commenter ask if this idol and that idol has done plastic surgery, these surgeons always have something to say and say that they've had work done. Ironic how they say all the idols the commenters ask for have done surgery but then proceeding to say that they haven't.
@@animesymphony8997 you are right. Thank you 🤗🤗
@@kiranlimbu491 💜💜💜
So what now 90% idols have plastic surgery because of Korean beauty standard
They are beautiful and were beautiful
Young fans should realize that 1) Plastic surgery is a common practice in SK 2) The beauty standards and expectations are crazy high 3) A good number of idols (ie. Blackpink) come from well-off families that could afford to pay for those procedures, and even if they didn't have the means to do it, some agencies actually pay for said procedures. Based on these factors and more, it should come as no surprise that your idols have done cosmetic and plastic surgeries to achieve the look that so many of you envy. All in all, don't shame them for having plastic surgery but definitely don't praise them as deities and undermine your own looks.
edit: typo
Source: dude trust me
not you making a video based off of the most clout chasing "surgeons" on the internet. They will carefully select the pictures they use to prove their point, without actually paying attention to photos from the same time period that prove them completely wrong. This is less of "plastic surgery bad!" And more this is a low and weird way to degrade people
Even if they are so called "clout chasers" it's true all of them have plastic surgery done. Moreover I'm so tired of seeing surgeons being called "clout chasers" . If you're having that much of trust issues from a professional plastic surgeon then at this point become one then. And about picture angles it's pretty obvious plastic surgeon would use those to prove their point because you can clearly see what procedures were done. Your comment makes no sense.
Ok boomer
So you made a video about plastic surgery after you made the previous video about puberty? Huh, funny, the hypocrisy jumped out.
There are comments where"Dont disagree with proffesianals"but for artist such as jisoo and sana were from magazines and photos of albums and they most likely edited.
Dont post a video saying an idol had plastic surgery after posting one where you said the opisitte. At the very least adress the missinfarmation and don't spread rumours.
I love how you didn't mention that in her video, Lori also said that Jisoo is probably all natural since it her visual seem to run in her family with how her brother look. Also with how her older sister look basically like her, it doesn't seem like she got any work done. And you can see she always look the same with her low makeup look in snowdrop and her predebut photos before becoming a YG training. Another predebut photo that was take with low quality show Jisoo nose looking the same as in the photo the surgeon showed. I don't care if kpop idols do PS. But i don't like when people spread misinformation on my favs. Especially with how sensitive and rude some people are in the internet, the wrong info can lead to alot of backlash and hate.
Yes lorry hill said that but the channel didn't showed it
Her sibling could also have ps.
She did ps lmao she dont look the same as her predebut days
@@israbouich271 are we still talking about Jisoo here? Tell me in which photo she look different. And please don't say that photo where she was in middle school with that ugly haircut. Because except for the hair not matching her, she still look exactly the same with just more baby fat.
@@ya_done so now we going to claim that Jisoo siblings also had plastic surgery so we can also prove that Jisoo did it? And they say fans are delutional for claiming their idols didn't do PS when other peoples are desperately reaching to prove otherwise. Again, compare Jisoo predebut photos with how she look in snowdrop and then comeback here.
SME’s surgeons are the best when it comes to rhynoplasty
they always manage to make the nose’s changes natural like irene and winter
winter's nose ps is obvious lol
Not every perfect face shape human has a ps... jisoo is actually natural.if they actually see her pre debuted and other childhood photos expect that ( bangs photo that mostly people use and claim that she was gone under ps) in that photo she just has a baby fat.even her whole family has a visual.. even ps is not clear that she goes under ps or not..and according to her some childhood photos and adult s photos of predebute she look same just puberty her her not ps..
My opinion..
I don't mind that they do plastic surgery, but when a normal person watches them, he gets frustrated and says why are they all so beautiful. What I want to say is that no one is perfect, just admit, WE ARE HUMANS
First of all, I'm sure most of the idols got plastic surgeries and it's completely fine
They still look gorgeous as ever
I hate it when ppl use it as an insult
Eg. "Plastic Visual *adds disgusted emojis" etc yk what I mean
*Get your info right and say something that actually makes sense tzuyu didn't do any plastic surgery you can see in her recent photos that her nose is the same the picture the doctor chose was from a different angle plus her mom herself clarified that her daughter (tzuyu) didn't have any surgery done to her face*
Kpop stans say they are fine if idols get surgery but defend their idols so much when their idols get accused of surgery. I just wanna let you guys know even 14 year olds in korea get surgery . Its very common to get surgery deal with it. Your oppa isnt natural
It can be weight loss or they hit thier puberty because they were still a teen
All of idols are still beautiful and pretty 🥰🥰🥰🤩🤩🤩😍
I mean who was believing that all of them didn't get plastic surgery?
If these idols had plastic surgery, I just hope they did it for themselves and were not forced to do it by their respective companies. It's a personal choice and doesn't really affect my love for them. There is such an emphasis on visuals and appearance that it would be unrealistic to think that all of it was "natural".
I don't see why this matters? I know it's just a UA-cam video and nothing to take seriously, but I do find it annoying. So what they got some plastic surgery? I personally would think it would mean more of they weren't forced by their companies, but in the end it not the end of the world
childhood photos are not a good way of pointing out if someone had or hadn't got any plastic surgery (not 100% in some cases, but maybe in some cases it it.), for example my sister on childhood photos look diffrent then now (she didn't have any plastic surgery), when you grow up things can change in and on you, just like your eyes or hair color, it can get darker or lighter. I'm not saying that they didn't get one, if they did then good for them i guess, if they didn't then they didn't.
Fr
Not drastically when it comes to the nose
@@youssrairene9280 yeah but i do think that because of makeup people start looking a bit different some people make their nose appear slim because of contouring and since kpop idols have some of the best makeup artists it is possible
@@felixislookingforhisbrowni7304 contour can only do so much the majority of kpop idols if not all retouched their noses and it's ok if i was korean and i had access to all that non invasive unapparent plastic surgery I'd have retouched my nose to their society really value outer beauty , too much sometimes even for normal people so imagine the pressure on idols
Ur right physical features do change when u r older PS isn't a bad thing because not only in Korea it happens every where even when ur not in this type of industry , everyone judge u ur relative , friends ,family it's our society which pressurize u
They always bring blackpink here and there and as always blackpink is not natural and in ps right ? Why are yall like this
I know it well 😌, but no one trust me in another platform, 80-90 percent idol had done plastic surgery. But its okey. They still pretty/handsome.
So what they are still visuals 😍
Bc irene’s nose is already good even before... the surgeon just probably fixed the tip or its bridge or none at all.
About JK, I noticed that already way before. There's nothing wrong, for me these type of surgeries just enhances their beauty. Those surgeons are freaking amazing at their job💅🙇♀️
When I got job and money in the near future I am planning to balance out the left and right side of my face, nothing too much cuz I can't handle pain😂
I don't who to trust anymore
I don't have problem with plastic surgery but at least admit that you have done it
So people can know not everytime features are that much perfect
They still look like Angels
People who've done these things won't admit it easily because like it or not,it's still a sensitive topic
They don't owe us an explanation about what they have got done or not ...
I don’t understand why fans are upset and in disbelief like this are doctors with experience they aren’t gonna lie and the plastic surgery is a normal thing in korea and among the kpop industry « the perfect beauty » from birth just doesn’t exist so its normal for idols to do so to up great their looks to meet the standards
But the doctor can also be wrong . He isn’t 100% correct . He just expresses his opinions in relation to the pictures he has in front of him.
At this point it easier to name the ones who didn’t have plastic surgery because it looks like pretty much everybody has done it
No one can deny that sm got one of the best plastic surgeons,like just look at Irene,she looks so damn originally pretty!
Someone that got surgery can't look "originally" pretty once they get surgery
@@wonhos_sweaty_ballsack8735 not true at all
@@jaylynpayne1 getting work done isn't original. Period.
@@wonhos_sweaty_ballsack8735 they never said that lol they said it looks original , and plastic surgery can very much look natural
@@jaylynpayne1 she said it looks "originally pretty". Stop being childish. If you don't agree with me then agree to disagree and move on, and there is NOTHING original, natural or authentic about getting facial surgery. I SAID WHAT I SAID. BYE!!!!!
Idol's should tell if they done plastic surgery because many fans are insecure about themselves
Dr. Charles S. Lee is really famous lmao
can I just say that Wanna One/CIX Bae, SVT Joshua, Dreamcatcher Jiu, TWICE Mina, Treasure Yoshi are underrated visuals? Like how can people not include these and few other idols when talking about visual
i literally just assume that every idol has had work done. i'm more surprised when i'm convinced one hasn't.
It doesn’t matter
Tzuyu didn't need anything done to her face: she's a very pretty girl! What's wrong with these people??😟
Yes
I think a lot of times when it's done before debut its the company changing their image and it's kind of sick because its permanent and I'm sure some of them feel they have no choice but to do it or they'll miss out on their dream, some kpop idols look tooooo perfect after surgeries and i truly feel bad for them..
The biggest wrong here is you are accusing SOME of them of having plastic surgery but in reality they didn't do. i didnt said all i said SOME..
Let me make it clear 😌
We kpop fans( real and non toxic) don't care if they had done ps cuz,it's their face and their choice
All are beautiful and rich idols .. nothing wrong ...
i never thought jisoo would have got plastic surgery but she is as beautiful as she is i love her for her 4D personality, her voice and her cuteness in everything she does i seriously don't care if she had plastic surgery she is always one of the unique visuals to me and i don't like when this "plastic surgery" and "beauty" topic comes in ur channel i loved how u defended them saying plastic surgery is completely normal but pls don't bring these types of topic up
I don’t think they actually have proper proof to believe it
They did another video saying she never did. And now this
@@hachiko7135 yes
@@hachiko7135 that's great if she has kept her original beauty and even if it's plastic surgery it's completely normal as i said i really don't care if she had plastic surgery or not. Thanks for the info!
I mean if she get whats wrong with it can't we love
as we grow ,mainly in the teen years ,our features do change and it doesnt mean that someone had gone through plastic surgery or something ,, my nose looks completely different when i compare to my photos of age 13 ,14 to my pesent ones 15.