What Happens When 2 Amateurs Try to Refit An OLD Catamaran? | Wildlings Sailing
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Last week we wondered if we were out of our depths. This week, we find out that we are.
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12:43 "It hurts my heart". OMG Nadiana you are so adorable!
Guys, PLEASE have that cooker tested by a qualified gas engineer for CO levels and get a CO alarm as well. I just fitted a new cooker to Moon Shadow and found the grill giving off over 1400 ppm CO - 800ppm is fatal in two hours! :-0
Good advice
I concur.
So do I - in fact I had exactly the same thoughts as the Op here: about two years back a young couple were lost on a boat over a weekend. CO poisoning and poor ventilation were the culprits. The CO alarm is a must, if you don’t have one.
Usually the seals on your stove at the taps need replacing if you can smell gas. The back flexible connection hose needs to be gas standard as does the value cox. And you should inspect the stove pipework at the joins for leaks.
A little bit of soapy water on the joins when they are under pressure will show up gas leaks but having a gas professional inspect it is preferable. A standby flexible gas hose can be found on a barbecue if the boat has one.
You both have great energy and make a great team. Lots to watch!! All the best.
@@KymHammond CO2 is carbon dioxide, CO is carbon monoxide and is the one that kills you.
Damn, that's like a game show: can I roast my chicken before the grill roasts me :D Joking aside I hope you replaced/got it fixed...
Your fiberglass repairs will get better as you learn more of it's characteristics. Keep up the good work attitude. You two are Awesome !!
Agreed, I started fiberglassing 2 years ago and it was crap. Strong but not efficient. These days I can fiberglass confidently with no bubbles or delam. It's hard not to beat yourself up but trust me and everyone else. "Practice and time makes perfect!" Be patient you'll get there ;)
Here's a tip for any more bulkhead or vertical or overhead work.
1 Mix a very small amount of epoxy, (small batches best).
2. warm the wood with a hair dryer or heat gun,,,
3. warm the epoxy the same, this will get rid of mixing bubbles and make it like water.
4. Brush this on thin and flash over quickly with hair dryer.
5. So far you have put a thin mix on that has been encouraged to soak into the wood. This is the most important step for bonding done.
6. Now the easy bit.
7. Get some polythene sheet a good few inches wider than your tabbing strips.
8. Mix a small batch epoxy.
9. Paint a thin coat onto your plastic strips.
10. Lay matting onto your prewetted plastic strip and stipple it with brush to soak out.
11. Do this a couple of times so you have your layers now sitting on your plastic strip.
12. Ok so far you've just made a large band aid plaster and done it on a workbench counter top.
13. Your prewetted wood and hull should now be tacky, but even wet is o.k.
14. Pick up your plastic sheet band aid and place into position, suction will keep it in place.
15. using a credit card, plastic dough scraper, or flexible metal scraper smooth your band aid into position working from middle to outer edges smooth on and remove any excess epoxy that squeezes out from under your polythene sheet band aid.
16. Use some duct tape etc to pin a few places of the plastic sheet ( you don't need to do this because suction should be keeping it tight on).
17. Come back next day, peel off the plastic sheet strip and admire the lovely smooth grp job you have done with minimal sanding left to do and looking sooo neat and professional.
👍👍😊😊👍👍
They are all good tips, i will remember them myself.. cheers
Cool idea. I haven’t seen that done before.
The poor man's peel ply, excellent advice. Mark, try this out next time, you will have pro results instantly with very little sanding to do !
@@lesdoidanlzen1691 Yes, and the epoxy doesn't know what brand of plastic is covering it, I started doing it when I didn't have 'peel ply' now I use any old polythene laying about 😊 actually I save various pieces of plastic packaging just for my tool box 👍
@@robweinstein Try it Rob, it saves an absolute tonne of work, makes it easy to apply, gives professional results every time 👍
Thanks, you know subs and patrons are often willing to help so you are not alone in this refit. Tbey love it. You see them as strangers helping but they feel like they know you after watching sometimes for years.
We don't see you guys as strangers, at least the ones we interact with we really build an amazing relationship with! :)
that's so very true. We are on your side. Treat us like Auntie and Uncle who WANT to help and advise about everything in your life. So forgive us if we are too domineering and bossy. Wisdom is for me: listening to those who care, then making your own decisions, but LISTEN.
I like to use a little metal roller to get out all air bubbles from the matting when fiberglassing
You're not amateurs, you're wildings. And we salute you.
Come on be honest with them.
Yeahh We are totally gonna make it into a t-shirt:) hahah
Doesn't matter what the epoxy looks like. Its all about how strong it is. You can always sand and fair over anything properly ugly. Doing a good job
The second layer corrects the first after it's been sanded down. Finish with a finer grade mat if it's on show. Holes drilled in the wood traps the resin and helps stiffen things up.
@@delukxy That's amazing advice. I'll remember that when doing more fiberglassing.
Stop running yourself down! You are there, we are watching! That said, look at the early videos of the other sailing Chanels ( Uma, Evans...) and use their lessons. And from what I have seen, you have found an amazing deal. Your boat is in better shape than mine was when I got it in Florida and not knowing any better, sailed it to Dominica in the Caribbean! Enjoy!!!
Chopped fiberglass strands do not go together with epoxy. Only polyester will dissolve the "glue" that keeps the mat from falling apart.
With epoxy you can only use woven material.
That's why the laminate is looking so bad.
For structural purpose I strongly recommend polyester.
And yes , I am a polyester addict.
Keep up the good work ! Stay safe (Covid & your propane installation).
Regards, Marco
Congratulations you two and thank you for making me smile
Please use yellow teflon tape ,its for gas fittings , check for leaks with soapy water around back of stove . Keep up the good work.
Just remember, if you have an option to go all the way in whatever project you come across, GO ALL THE WAY! The consequence will be double labor and double cost. Great to see younger people set out on a lifetime adventure! Aloha!
Hi guys, love your passion. Please get yourself some plastic bags "Ziplock sandwhich bags" fill them with your filler and cut a corner to make a piping bag. This will make it so much easier for you and it will look professional :)
Great idea! Thanks!
Love the idea,Thank you!
This is an excellent technique that we have used a lot. Makes it easy to apply a bead of fillet mixture where you want it to be. Easy cleanup, too
Make sure you get yourself A carbon monoxide alarm. Check for gas leaks with a bit of washing up liquid and water you’ll be able to see the bubbles if it’s leaking.
... Not just that it’s a boat! Even if it’s not leaking right now waves and vibration could easily cause it to!!! Something that dangerous needs to be done properly- your neighborhood plumber
This cannot be overstated!!!!
A Carbon monoxide detector does NOT detect leaks in gas lines, that’s why they add odor to propane, so you can smell it if it’s leaking.
@@BlockchainToTheFace The carbon monoxide alarm is for when they’re using the appliance the fairy liquid and water is the check for leaks before they use the appliance. If you can smell the gas you know you’ve got a problem. If you fall asleep with carbon oxide you won’t wake up.
I believe it is a 50/50 mixture of water and dishwashing detergent. mix it up and apply it on the hose areas of the gas line if there are leaks it will make bubbles and then you know !!
Dont get depressed with fibreglass, it becomes a pleasure over time, just sand it back and do another layer!
Ohh glorious sanding?😁
Honestly, what a fantastic video. Crammed a load in, kept it real, laughs, practical stuff, just quality, quality entertainment.
Oh my she’s adorable, the way she pats you on the head 😂 love ya new boat.
I love hearing Nadiana speak. Delightful.
Very important - to check for propane leaks - Mix about half water and half dish soap. Apply liberally with small brush on all propane pipe joints to see if there are any leaks. You will see bubbles if gas is leaking. Love your channel.
Your fiberglass tabbing job looks exactly what I would imagine my first fiberglass tabbing job would look like. Learning is a process.
Good luck the brave Wildlings you will make it.
I really enjoy watching your videos every week please don’t think I’m being one of those people that just moan or pick fault.
I have a business in the Uk in Cornwall building and restoring VW Campers, I also rebuild Subaru engines and fit them into T25 Vw Campers.
My point is please don’t ever use that grinder ever again with out the guard fitted, those cutting discs can shatter if they are old and fly off potentially killing someone, I nearly lost my best mate two years ago when a disc shattered and went into his wrist, only ever use new cutting discs, welding gloves are a bit clumsy but save fingers and wrists, always have the guard on never take it off not even for the sander.
I hope you read this I genuinely care about you guys ❤️
Thank you for the love! We will take the advice!
Congrats Nadiana on your new residency that's a really BIG deal......😉😉😉👍👍👍
Your parents did a fantastic job raising you guys 👍 keep up the hard work and you will be rewarded with adventures and good memories 😁
I put in a couple propane sensors, a panel and solenoid. It works very well.
No need to apologise, at least you guys are giving it a go and getting stuck in. Love the dynamic between you, a true partnership. Can't wait to share your adventures, just keep going and never give up.
I think working on your living quarters was the best choice and securing the leaks permanently next. Take this advice from two 81-year-old retired travelers: Build your nest safely and securely and your style. Being kind and respectful of each other is the most important.
I am SO enjoying this channel!! Love you guys.
Distilled vinegar will remove the itch from fiberglass, it dilutes the fiberglass in your skin. Just rub the vinegar on your skin and rinse with water. No more itch. By the way, you all are doing a great job!
Oooh, good tip! I shall use that
Cover any exposed body parts in baby powder before you start grinding.
@@JohanFroloff81 Is this Mrs Neilhuny?
@@Neilhuny He he.
You both warm my heart!! U both work together an are just quite the team... You 2 will whip this Cat into shape. I have no doubt in my mind!! ✌🏻💗😊❣️
I had to sand down my first fiberglas job completely. you'll get there. thx for the lovely videos.
Lots of progress. The kitchen looks really good. Well done. Fixing the oven cooker is really great. 👍🏽👍🏽
Another great week behind you! Wish you were closer! Would gladly help out for free 😂
The cheapest digital kitchen scale may help with epoxy mixing. =)
The people criticizing you only have time to do so because they aren't working as hard as you are. Keep up the good work.
You have well and truely achieved the "marry your best friend" trophy, love you!
All the best on your challange and I'm so excited to see the cat seaworthy! :)
Before you work put corn starch all over your body, arms and legs. Corn starch stops the microscopic fiberglass shards from getting into your pores so you won't itch! Always, always use corn starch before you work on fiberglass. Love your dedication, carry on! Be well and blessing from the Galilee in Northern Israel!
Thanks for the tips!
If you can rig up a vacuum cleaner next to your grinding or sanding activity so that most of the dust and debris is cleared away as you work.
You two are a lovely couple is great watching you have so much fun while your working your guts out. I absolutely admire your tenacity and hard work, lts going to be lovely when you're out at sea in such comfort it'll be so worth it.
No those stove fittings need gas type fittings. Really risky to run gas through wrong fittings, especially on a boat
Your turning your new boat into a beautiful home . Keep up the great work...
A pro tip from an American Plumber if you are putting teflon tape on in a tight space you can wrap the teflon onto the end of a pencil and then unwrap from the pencil onto the threads of the pipe! Also you should always try to have good mechanical joints on any gas lines like compression but flared connections are what are most commonly used here in the U.S. they offer a solid brass on brass connection.
You're both smashing it. The tabbing wasn't all that bad. Sanding will cover a LOT of any issues that only you can see.
Glad the weather has improved for you.
From Cornwall, UK
I really enjoy watching your video's. You don't need to apologize for your work. You are doing a lot of this for the very first time.The best way to learn anything is to jump in and do it!
You guys are so cute ❤ 😍 loved the piano montage 😂😂😂😂
don't get too down on yourself! you wouldn't be where you are now if you didn't just take the chance!
Do not be embarrassed to show your mistakes - it's how we all learn ;0)
Mistakes, can be done over & over until you learn how to do correctly. Then, and only then, they will be really a dumb job... if you knew how to do it right, yet didn't. Ask away!
Learning and making mistakes is a sharp curve. You're doing 👌.
You guys are doing an awesome job. I would love to see you do a video of a walkthrough of the whole boat when you get it done. I would really love to see the whole layout.
You're inspiring me to do more work on my boat myself. Thank you.
As along as they love each other then two people can do anything.
It's so nice to see someone here who is just as clumsy as me and still manages to do it. That gives me courage. There are already enough perfect professionals on UA-cam... Great channel. Thank you and keep on learning.
Yes!! Clumsy people, unite.
Mate watch the recent Parlay Revival videos and you will see a lot of Fiberglass and Epoxy work being done......very educational for your current phase of work.
I was going to suggest the same. Parlay Revival really helped me up my game on fiberglassing!
You are a pleasure to watch, so much respect for each other,Bravo
BTW: Rules of fiber repairs .If it is broken make it stronger than before,work on bare,bare bare and dry,dry,dry substrate.(the best epoxy on wet old paint wont help you) rehearse everything before, doing it like a repair for play (I am dead serious) with all your tools and products lined up and ready (you DO need a fiber roller) If something new to you do a little trial on the side. don't obsess It does not have to be pretty just strong .Finally be safe ,you are the only important thing here.
Its funny watching you guys do this. My wife and I got our boat just after pandemic started. Your channel was one of the channels that made us want to do this life. We have been fixing our boat for a year now and we are like maybe 3 months away from splashing. You guys got this so excited to watch the progress.
Fyi if you want to reduce the itchy feeling of grinding fibreglass get a tin of baby powder or talc and put it on your skin liberally and it fills up your pores so the glass can’t get in.....grind on!
Exactly Arne
Do the best you can. Learn. Then when you have to do it again; Do it better. Learn some more. When you have to do it again you will have learned what to do and what not to do. There must be truth in all those parables that teach us to learn from mistakes and successes. Good going and Congratulations!
The temperature of epoxy is important to how easily it works. It also determines how quickly it kicks off. A couple of things, get yourself some Butyl Tape for bedding things (like port lights and hatches) Also make sure you are clear on the products you decide to use. Bedding compounds are not adhesives and vice versa.
Protect yourselves well from fibreglass dust, pleaseeeee!🙏🙏🙏 Compliments to your hard work!!!😍👏👏👏
If you have to make fillets again , get a bag that they use with cake decorating . That makes it easy to get the stuff right there where you need it . Make the thickened epoxy a bit less thick . Just thick enough to stop it from running . A cheap way to flatten the stuff is to use a piece of PVC electrical pipe . Not cut straight but under a angle . Hope you have a use for those guide's . Enjoy your build .
You are doing great! Much improved Soldering! Very courageous to show your less then perfect first attempt at tabbing. Your however ARE doing it, and learning fast! France must be honored to have you as new citizens!
Persistence to a dream. Keep moving forward guys. Best wishes!
Stay positive and keep going, thanks
Fibreglassing is a pain at the start. Someone else has already mentioned the Sail life channel and he is very good.
Take heed of the advice offered regarding the gas installation and fittings.... We only want to keep you safe!
It’s always hard to admit mistakes dude, I made loads when fixing things or decorating etc, worst case you strip it back and start again. You’ll be a pro before you know it.
The two of you make a great team 👍
Great job crew your really making us believe in your decision on the catamaran I’m really excited to see your progress updates and think your going to have a real comfort on such a epic adventure 👍👍
Thanks guys great work might want to check out free range sailing, an Australian couple who just done a refit and changed to dyneema rigging worth a watch. You might already know, but I would put a 50 / 50 mix of fairy liquid and water on all gas fittings after doing work. Makes sure there is no leaks. Looking forward to the big splash sure you will be surprised at the speed of the cat as I guy in our sailing club had a sea rover, good boat but slow. 👍🏻⛵🏴
Fantastic video, you’re both looking so well and so happy! We’ve seen worse apoxy in many videos so don’t be embarrassed-this is your boat and you can always correct things later, but once it’s rubbed down and painted it will look great! Just concentrate on getting her into the water and carry on doing what you’re doing! Lots of luv, Leslie and Evie.
Please use standard dishwashing soap, put in small plastic water with tiny bit of water, shake well should be megabubblefoam. Press it along all hinges and that „watershutoffswitch“ if you see it bubbles it leaks, if it doesnt bubble its tight.
That gas situation is a little too sketchy for my taste. I hope you sprayed it all down with soapy water when you were finished to check for leaks. Also if you don't show your failures you can't be told how to fix them, or at least how to avoid failing again. Never be ashamed of not knowing something, be ashamed of not knowing something and not being willing to learn.
Need to remember that gas is heavier than air and will settle and accumulate gradually in the bilges if there are any leaks, however minor. This can build up and eventually cause an explosion or fire. Critically important to install a good gas detector and to check regularly. I used to pump out the bilge and once any water had gone carried on to pump out any contaminated air/gas accumulations. I’ve seen three fires on boats caused by gas over the years including one that was fatal. Not nice. Take great care. Use screwed pipe fittings with olives rather than flexible pipe and jubilee clips and always check using soapy water.
@@phil2hoots i think you guys worry to much he shuts everything off i agree i would not leave anything open.
@@ufodude1000 you should check out SV nutshell also a very thorough captain but still had a leak develop and happen to go above deck when it exploded it probably would have killed him scary I will never have propane on a boat myself you cannot be too careful!!! 👍👍
@@cnc75adventures49 sounds like it was left on .
@@ufodude1000 Checking for leaks and buying a CO detector are such simple things that it is silly not to do them. Particularly when you live on the boat.
Loving the progress you are making. Keep up the good work and enjoy every minute of it. 👍
I love watching videos of people who are having a good go no matter their beginner skills. It's another side of being informed. Ignore the bad criticisms and keep doing what you are doing, it's great! 😀
We appreciate that! Thanks!
You are doing good job, it was good idea you bought the boat, since you are fixing it, it won't be expensive,🍻👌💪🏻
Hi Guys, i enjoyed your video and stop doubting, keep on pushing, remember that you are on a learning curve and it will be fine once you've sanded and done some covering on it, and after a few months, when you will remember this part you will laugh about it but you will also be proud about your evolution, you guys are great!!
Thanks for that!
Excellent video guys, your doing a good job. Looks better with every New vid.
😎🐈👍
A lot of comments on the gas, many of which are sage.
This is serious, as are the fumes, etc I mentioned, especially given it's a confined space with limited ventilation.
You two are smart, capable and proactive, so all these safety issues can be readily addressed.
anything fiberglass I watch @boatworkstoday and @tipsfromashipwrightfor preglassing advice! They're both amazing teachers!
Cheseapeake lightcraft have a great series on stitch and glue which covers fibreglassing and resins.
Im also concerned with gas fitting. When connecting gas pipelines and their fittings to a stove, grill or other connection, it is important to use Teflon tape designed for gas connections and not Teflon tape designed for water pipes. ... Teflon tape seals the gas fittings' threads and keeps leaks from developing. Its yellow to quickly identify the correct tape.
that's correct, I asked my son if he used tape after refilling the propane tanks when he reconnected them, he did not and I saw him grab the white tape for plumbing> No!!! I gave him the yellow tape for gas pipes instead! That is VERY important.
I love your enthusiasm and determination to be ready for the water in the next 2 months. The cooker connection is a bit sketchy and I am not sure if your water heater gives off carbon monoxide. Your a great couple and I am rooting for you. stay safe J.
Amazing as always, ignore the doubters and push on!!
We love you guy's. I've actually been going back through these old videos of when yu bought Minki...I've missed your videos.
and also dynema rigging watch free range sailing, they just rerigged their yacht, might get some good tips there.
Maybe look into the whole issue of using chopped strand mat vs woven cloth with epoxy. I find that it's easier to work with the cloth anyway...
Your efforts are viable in how nicely the galley and salon is coming! Opening it up and painting made a huge improvement and I still love the haircut too... much more chic!
You will have no problem selling this boat for a profit once you get it ship shape and floating....
I'm still catching up on the older episodes while also viewing the new ones. The new boat looks so much lighter inside. So nice. And the haircuts look great on both of you! You are glowing. 😎
Stay strong, you two are living the dream.
It is surprising that the glass mat formed in as well as it did. You can always do a better/stronger/easier job using glass cloth, especially when a surface is not flat. You can save yourself a lot of problems by watching a video on how to work with epoxy and glass cloth. I thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to you two throughout this video....thank you!!
Thanks Ed!
So happy for you both. Hope the residency works out. I've been fretting about it for you both. Stunning job on the boat. That looks like a mammoth task but the transformation is stunning. Love the keyboard shelf. Pleased it's not only me who had a complete cupboard system designed that incorporated a keyboard shelf. My wife no longer thinks I am crazy after I showed her your shelf.
Tip for the dust....shop vac and duct tape. Tape the hose either to the tool or close to the area you are working. It will not get all the dust but it will catch quite a bit. Thanks for the videos guys...you are a lot of fun to watch! Good luck!
Lot's of progress you guys! Keep up the good work.
Put a bit of plastic down on a table.
Put the tabbing on the plastic, wet it down and then put in place.
You'll use way less epoxy this way.
*I build carbon fibre hydrofoil boards for kitesurfing
Cool, thanks for the tip!
"I watched him hit his head, it hurts my heart... and I don't want him to get stupider." I love it, I actually burst out laughing.
You're doing a great job. Don't be hard on yourself. You deserve great kudos for attempting and learning!!!
Reminds me of painting my first car. Sanded out the rust. Did the fiberglass. Base anti rust primer . Perfect. Only problem was no one told me you have to mix thinner with your paint. Car resembled having been stung by a thousand bees. Wouldn't trade the experience for the world today. Have fun with it. You are learning.
Terrific job guys, lovely to see you both happy and working together 😀
Love your humility with your fibreglassing. As long as shes water tight. Sand it back smoothly and a lick of paint...”Bobs your Uncle”👍
Your doing a great job! So many people would not even attempt what your doing, your a wonderful young inspirational couple.
I think you two are doing GREAT! Very happy to see your progress - thanks for posting! Smart & determined - should get you far. Best of luck from New York!
I can't believe that you would be ashamed of the work you done, just remember the professionals didn't get there over night!
Much progress. Congrats.
As your’e learning I recommend trying to find the guard for your disc grinder it might just save your fingers
I have tried fallowing these guys from the start, and the more you keep up with them both, iv grown to learn to love them both, anyways watching marks face to day, in regards to his fiberglasing his bulkhead, bless him, you could on his face, he should not be so hard on himself, because that only puts off future learning learning, and so be a little kind on yourself, these are a great couple, I will continue to injoy watching, all the best to them both. :)
Thanks, Phil. I hope you get your boat sorted soon
Ben if its the first tabbing and glass work you have done, well just turn most of it into dust and make it good the second time over 🙂 Also go find 'Boatworks today' Andy has a huge back catlogue of glassworking to learn from 🙂
You two are so much fun to watch. Don't stop being happy and the boat will come out great. Good things come to those who want.