Full Interview: Nellie Bowles Knows Why So Many Progressives Lost Their Minds-She Almost Did, Too
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Nellie Bowles joins Bari Weiss to discuss her new book, “Morning After the Revolution,” out now! bookshop.org/p...
Nellie has shown courage for changing direction. The larger lesson, and it’s prominent in her book, is the media has abandoned their duty as the fourth estate.
This conversation and this comment section is the clearest exemple of sanity and I come back to it often to cleanse!
Don't be fooled. They both enthusiastically practiced cancel culture until it came for them.
@@glennwatson3313 I would love to know more. What do you mean?
@@mariadelmardospasos One woman admitted she participated in cancel culture until she became its victim. The other did not admit do it but judging from her career it is clear she did.
Its good to learn from one's mistakes but her transition was not due to empathy but rather due to her own suffering from the very thing she engaged in.
I am sharing this interview selfishly hoping it will open the eyes of friends who have cancelled me over the last several years. Praying hard.
Why? To what end? A person that would leave a true, authentic friendship over politics isn’t someone you should want in your life.
Because I want them to see the light like Nellie did.
I wish you the best.
I can't imagine a boss telling me who I should not date.
Indeed, a red flag the size of football field.
That the personal is political is one of the cornerstones of the totalitarian mindset, which makes sense once one recalls the origins of that mindset in dogmatic and sectarian religion.
@@russellsharpe288liberalism is a theology, and not a very mentally healthy one.
I remember what first got me confused about the left. My supposedly super compassionate mother was applauding the release of severely mentally ill people from hospitals. One hospital far from us had abused patients and for some reason everyone believed that this was happening everywhere even in the face of investigative reporting showing the opposite. All the severely mentally ill in our area were released and many of them froze to death in the winter following. They were way better off indoors with food and medication even if someone yelled at them every once and awhile.
I remember seeing the same thing happen for every police shooting in my area. Somewhere else something corrupt would happen and everyone would assume it was rampant all over. I read the paper researched by a prestigious leftie economist claiming that bad shootings actually occur less than .2% of the time and no one would believe the science that they so vehemently espoused to follow and worship.
You have to always stop, take a breath, and follow logic instead of the crowd.
The left has always hated and refused to look at the data and statistics. They just care about subjectivity and feelings.
My mom remembers when Reagan was governor of California and he closed tons of mental health facilities. After that and since then the homeless population skyrocketed. These folks did not get the care and treatment that they needed and suffered terribly.
@@amberatkinson4230Yep. I remember this too… and my brother went to CSUCI, the state school they built out of the repurposed buildings in Camarillo when that facility was cleared out and the mentally ill were turned out.
However, to play devil’s advocate as I always try to do, I worked with ombuds and attorneys for disability rights in Washington, where we only have two official “institutional” facilities, because all others were deemed unfit by investigation and even those two we have are in constant battle with the state-which supports them-to stay open because they’re so negligent in correcting their errors-the reports we got (as neutral apolitical advocates, no money, just ombuds-type oversight with a goal to make it all work) and the subsequent investigations our attorneys would do would chill your blood.
The answer isn’t making them all homeless and letting them die, especially not when other states literally pay and bus their homeless and unwell to us with the promise of a more moderate climate in which to be homeless (we also get dozens of deaths by freezing each year) but I promise institutional abuse is rampant and more likely to occur than not for every single institutionalized person… the staff are overworked and underfunded and underappreciated, and their clients are not considered reliable witnesses. A recipe for nightmares.
The part about walking past dying people in SF… I think about this all the time. People would treat an abandoned dog better than their fellow humans.
Dogs don’t lie, and love unconditionally.
Nellie’s San Francisco article was the first I’d ever read of her work & it absolutely nailed it. I quote her article all the time when discussing the declining state of West Coast cities due to radical left-wing policies. Thank you for having the guts to report on these things & for speaking up Nellie!!
San Francisco was ruined when colonizers came.
These people do important work. Extremely important. They engage in critical objective thinking. They write some of the most readable journalism around. We're lucky to have them.
Don't be fooled. They both enthusiastically practiced cancel culture until it came for them.
It’s a pretty scary world that Nellie is describing. It’s not new, of course - cancelling or “cleansing” of the ranks was the norm in Soviet Russia, all throughout its history, to regular people and Komintern members alike. Except the consequences were a lot more dire. Still, very scary.
And it's been going on in elite circles for decades...the difference now is that the working classes have been eradicated from journalism. Many journalists used to climb up from the ranks, without university degrees...now they all come from "nice" homes.
1:06 “I’ve grown and evolved” … brought tears to my eyes. Yes. Thank you for the confirmation. I needed that.
What a wonderful, informed, rich conversation between two awesome, well-intentioned people. There are big answers here.
Don't be fooled. They both enthusiastically practiced cancel culture until it came for them.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Minneapolis riots near Lake street, I have video and photo evidence that shows a war zone, where Dominos and Holiday were burned down. Target was broken into and looted. I remember one guy carry out merchandise that he stole and he said "I need these items for my children". I remember the 3rd Police precinct broken into and fire all around. I also remember what looked like a waterfall pouring out of a building from a Fire truck trying to put out fires. So much violence, innocent business owners stolen from and vandalized. There were 54 residents that got arrested, so this wasn't soley outsiders.
Please keep bringing a voice for SANITY!! I have joined the Free Press and love listening to the actual news the way it’s supposed to be- unbiased reporting of the facts that don’t care about feelings!! Thank you 🙏
Excellent interview. Smart women. Keep on fighting the good fight and thank you for doing so!
We can only hope the rejection of anarchy and destruction becomes more prevalent.
I will STAND FOR COURAGE with both of these incredible women 24/7. Congratulations on the birth of yalls soon to be second child.
Don't be fooled. They both enthusiastically practiced cancel culture until it came for them.
@@glennwatson3313that's the whole point of the book, dude.
@@nodakrome I see that she is admitting some fault but only after the game turned against her.
@@glennwatson3313ok but if you want to convince anyone, “copy and pasting identical statements” isn’t a rhetorical technique l’m familiar with. It’s a small comment section so can you not be bothered to write unique responses? You care to reply to each comment but you don’t care to use a human touch that might actually create a conversation and inform someone of what you believe? It’s Yikes territory, man.
@@m-alexandria-g I'm not sure what you are talking about.
I have been feeling these for years , as a former progressive from the early 2000 I am now an independent who will never vote democrat. Full circle moment!
Same!
Trying to follow the logic of the anti-racists in that chapter of Morning After the Revolution made me feel like someone stuck a whisk in my ear and was scrambling my brains. Fantastic book. I'm glad there's reporters out there with the honesty and courage to stand apart from the selfish and damaging lies of both the liberal and conservative media.
One of the first things I did when I moved to the US 25 years ago was buy a subscription to The NY Times. It was the “gold standard”Cancelled it 6 months later. Thought it was the worst paper I ever read. You are late to the party ladies. But do go on…
You figured it out somewhat quickly but for others, it sometimes takes an eternity, lol.
I’m glad she finally realized how harmful “canceling” is. Courageous only in a passive way. Real courage would be to go back and make amends to those persons she did participate in the cancelling of. To attempt to ruin someone’s life over what is, in fact, a difference of opinion is troubling. Displays a certain level of self righteousness that is unfathomable. I hold the same view of doxxing, a very dangerous game to play.
I am a woman who relates more to centrist to conservatism and I can honestly say that this interview has given me such hope that there are still normal minded people in the world who have great intellect. Too much intellectualism seems to make some people idiots.
Nellie, I lived in San Francisco for a decade. Art Agnos, the Mayor, was a moderate, balanced the budget and expanded San Francisco business outreach to the Pacific Rim while also supported some of the progressive agenda. Things didn't go off the rails until the Dot Com boom, that's when I left.
And even back then Getty, Pelosi, Newsome, Feinstein and all the PH cronies ruled the City.
This interview is a must see for everyone interested in journalistic integrity and common sense! I am a big fan of "The Free Press", and can't wait to get my copy of Ms. Bowles book!
Kudos!!
its jewish hasabara. thats it. Bari Weiss is an Israeli spy.
I know that in my family we had been praying (literally) for reporters to go and get their sneakers out on the actual pavement. For those of us who have roots in New York and are deeply committed to the New York Times and the New Yorker (my uncle wrote for the New Yorker), we cannot sort of NOT still believe in these things. At the same time, we are awake to the weakness of the left, to really, our own weakness. The rot at our own centers. Thank you Nellie Bowles for your curiosity. I am also thanking God that I don't call or even think that Republicans are "demons" anymore. What a delusion.
This is really good. As someone who traversed a somewhat similar path (albeit not in journalism) I WISH I could have a conversation with you both!
Wonderful interview! What inspired me is not just their intelligence and integrity but their love for each other - which is palpable.
This video was so refreshing. My friends had gone semi-woke while numbers of the indoctrinated began to expand on Facebook and Instagram. For my own sanity, I did a bit of fighting against the nonsense and then I just started unfriending and deleting people. I stopped going to art shows (I'm an artist) and other events. I dropped out of my Masters program in English Lit because the professors were whackjobs. I kept quiet, mostly, until the day after October 7 and a couple people I knew were posting anti-Semitic cartoons. My semi-woke friends must have felt as I had - betrayed by the Left-wing because they no longer want to talk about politics at all. They got seriously burnt. The big reveal is how easy it is for people to lose their individuality and turn into Nazis. It's not over, but I think it sure is the beginning of the end.
I just watched this whole interview and I have SO much respect for you both. Thank you!!!
Two wonderful women. Thank goodness for you both.
I have never thought Americans will talk and discuss so much about race in the year of 2024
White, Black, Yellow, Brown
People!!!
Focus on being people
Stop funding groups who focus on differences
You guys are so cute together at the end 😅
Yes this is the only thing I got from this interview 😂
Isn't it the most important one though? Love. 😊
OMG I was thinking the same
The incompetence and corruption of this government are becoming increasingly ridiculous. I feel for people with disabilities who don't get the help they deserve. Thank you Andrea Sheryl Fox for keeping us financially informed! No matter how bad the economy gets, I still have over $200,000 trading last month deserved🚀
Wow that's huge, how do you make that much monthly? I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
Thanks to Andrea Sheryl Fox.
She's a licensed broker here in the states
YES! That's exactly her name (Andrea Sheryl Fox) I watched her interview on CNN News and so many people recommended highly about her and her trading skills.❤️
I googled about her and yes, she's won my heart. She just gained herself a new client
Thanks to both of you.
The yearning for Truth is forever a quest in one’s journey through a complex machination of culture and politics. Despite the morass, One will ultimately shine the light for safe passage.
I was also very skeptical of all these small businesses being fully insured
17:00 - Seattle sounds wild. A mayor condoning BLM/Antifa activists cordoning off a section of the city & supplying fencing & port-a-potties to do so. Wild.
It's interesting how similar cancelling is to religious shunning
Really enjoyed this conversation Nellie. But also wondering... where is my TGIF today?!!
"Antifa" is not "antifascist" because they call themselves that. Ate we lost in the kindergarten of tge mind waiting for an adult to pick us up?
Love the book. Go girl. Welcome home. The water’s fine.
I find these two ladies intelligent, endearing, and attractive! God bless them.
This is great, but it does kinda have an Oprah interview look about it.
Maybe that's the point.
This will appeal to the white liberal woman and is more likely to sway their opinion when it's presented in this fashion.
Love spending 1 hour with you two amazing ladies.
I bought the book on audible….i loved it. Very informative as Nellie was an eye witness to the radical lefts true intentions and the hypocrisy…”But if you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell you brother, you have to wait”. Beatles Google the lyrics. 1968. ……….and btw I’m a registered independent but I am voting R. Please don’t respond with disdain. I’m posting it here because I’m a real women who cares, who has a heart and I love these two women dearly.
I'm with you. I'm a moderate and will absolutely pull the R lever. Not out of love of Trump at all but because the Ds have gone off the deep end.
@@WhizzingFish12 it’s funny how a lot of us don’t like Trumps style. But like,what he does. He’s pro Israel …no wars….. gave abortion to the states which depoliticized a bit….Borders shored up etc. that’s what im voting for. Thanks for reply.
Or:"Well if you`re goin` around showing pictures of Chairman Mao, then don`t you know that you can count me out..." Respect to John Lennon.
@@heatherross928 Exactly...it`s not a high school popularity contest, for crying out loud.
Love love love this interview. I’m buying Nellie’s book now
Speaking as a "right-of-center" person of white skin tone, in a higher tax bracket, I welcome you (in good spirit and sincerely WITHOUT condecention) to the world of common sense. I've lived in San Francisco for over 50 years. I've resigned myself to the gradual decline of this once great city. I can only hope that there are a growing number of local citizens who can hear your words and acknowledge that we are on an unsustainable path. Sadly, we are not in the voting majority, so the slide will most likely continue. I admire your fortitude and clear thinking. Alas, it's kinda lonely out here.
Excellent! Great discussion and I am LOVING The Free Press.
Well Nellie is describing at the times signs like 7th grade bullying. The times needs to put a stop to this. No more compelling, encouraging, sending emails, e communications, starting petitions against at least their own colleagues. If an employee has complaints, concerns, etc .. They should go to HR. Everyone can independently go to HR, but they are not to bad mouth and harass other employees to other colleagues. It's so unprofessional.
Having worked closely with (though not personally with) Jenny Durkan, Mayor of Seattle at that time, as well as many Seattle City Councilmembers, I can say that the general vibe of Seattleites (who are largely cuckoo bananas) was that she was a moderate shill. A multimillionaire who only promoted Chaz because she lives in Cap Hill herself and because Seattleites were going to officials’ homes and threatening and protesting outside of them, violently representing themselves at all public meetings, etc.
She was seen as being out of touch, not at all one of the people, etc., down to being handed a baby doll as a prop during our “Candidate Jeopardy!” comedy show we do to try and ease tensions during campaign season, and referring to it as “a colored doll.”
It was widely held that she had no real cred with the radical left, which is very powerful in SEA, and got in because she was a pro-business, pro-tech, anti-homeless community lesbian who thus had just enough broad appeal. If she had lost to someone like Nikkita, Nikkita absolutely would have reveled in the riots.
In Seattle, we have Kshama who is an actual set-professed socialist party member and SHE is seen as a moderate-to-conservative hypocritical hack because she is also a multimillionaire with a husband in the tech industry. Basically anyone who isn’t in this vocal anti-racist, anti-capitalist microcosm is going to go through hell as a Seattle politician… and so will anyone who is, since Seattle is a very hypocritical, wealthy, white city with tons of big business.
You’re gonna catch it both ways worse than almost any city I can imagine.
I mean, UW, the public and far from the most expensive university, was moved directly onto the water so they could have “sailgating”… you know, where all your friends gather pre-game in your YACHTS rather than your trucks.
A great example of the inability to please is that the populace fought against Amazon building HQ2 in Seattle because they didn’t want to give Amazon competitive tax breaks… and when politicians denied the tax breaks and Amazon built HQ2 elsewhere, the populace was furious.
Seattle also has has some terrible recent politicians who have pushed the most idealistic and moderate people to the extremes, like Durkan’s prefer Ed Murray who it turned out, when he was a social worker, was getting foster kids addicted to drugs and then making them trade him sexual favors for the drugs they needed. So Seattleites became hypercynical while also having these Marxist fantasies AND this performative white guilt.
Durkan oversaw a lot of encampment clearings and anti-homeless architecture that enraged people, and was considered to promote elitist NIMBY policies, a term springing from leftist ideas that shitty fake politicians promote causes such as tiny houses for the homeless, “but Not In MY Backyard.”
I think if I had to wager that her deleted texts weren’t gleeful of promoting the woke agenda but more of the cynical variety, a là “these nutty Antifa people will burn my house down and/or kill me, so just fcking appease them for now, and we will deal with my friends in the business community and upper class elites later once this settles down.”
If the outside impression was that she was “kinda having fun with it,” then I think her advisors did well, because that would have been considered the least she could have done.
I don’t think she is the type to be genuinely delighted by any kind of chaos… she’s just a rather flat-affect, moderate-left, pro-Capitalist, wealthy old-school lady.
And to be entirely fair on both sides, I covered the Seattle riots starting the day after George Floyd broke, and I saw some horrific, horrific things perpetrated by the cops. A lot of it did seem, at the time, racially motivated. I saw one cop tip over a stroller with a baby strapped inside and kick it around laughing while another held back the screaming, pleading mother, who was Black or mixed. A fireman got on his loudspeaker on his truck and mocked George Floyd as “whatever his name was,” antagonizing protesters on purpose.
I had been at the “pink pussy” marches, etc. in previous years to observe and they were always an entirely different vibe, of course.
It wasn’t until much later that the police adopted this handshake-off policy. The Chief of Police for most of this era was Carmen Best, a Black woman herself. She wound up resigning as well because incidents were so uncontrolled.
I’m a flexible cafeteria moderate, which in Seattle may as well be a Nazi, like your editor framed it to be. I can say that the politicians and police were NOT happy or having fun with the predicament they were in, which was a lose-lose-lose-lose scenario. They may not have done nearly enough but they were gonna be torched no matter what they did, because they came at it all wrong and by the time they realized/remembered who they were dealing with in the significant Seattle radical population, it was too late.
People across the country talk about CHAZ being shut down but even last weekend a friend of mine who works as a bartender thirty miles south in Pierce county said he and his girlfriend went almost as a tourist destination. He said it’s mostly the same as it was in 2020.
Wow, didn't realize you were having another baby! Congratulations! I had both babies at home more than 20 years ago and it was a great experience. Next up for you...homeschooling 😃
They're having another baby who will never know his/her father. This isn't something to celebrate.
@@simfimpimBro
Thank you for telling the truth. It's great see caring lesbian couple these days about the truth. 🙂
congrats on second baby!
She's not having a baby though. Her girlfriend is having the baby and the baby will never know his/her father. This isn't a trend that should be celebrated, and yes, this also applies to straight, single women who choose to have children in the same way.
@@simfimpim I am not going to stand in front of the train on this. I was congratulating both of them. I realize full well that Nellie has the babies and that these babies will normally have no knowledge of its father and that Bari has no biological connection to them. Gay marriage is legal in every jurisdiction of the United States, following a Supreme Court case, so the word girlfriend is insulting. I do think that single women deciding to conceive fatherless children (I am related to one who thought it was a good idea right after a breakup!) is wrong, selfish, unwise and undeserving of congratulations (one inquires how they are, sends a contribution to a college fund, but no congrats). I am also against womb rental by gay men or a straight couple (that is illegal in many states, so for example, two men living in New York have to find some woman in a mid-Western state such as Indiana to have the child of one of them).
I love you guys so much!
Enlightening information. I suspected as much, now the proof. BTW, how can anyone say " well, they're insured, so it doesn't matter." Insurance rate skyrocket when these incidents of arson happen. I am neither conservative nor leftist...I am a Pragmatist.
LOVED this! I've been a Bari fan since she was cancelled (my daughter's middle name is Bari, after my Dad Barry who passed 2 months before she was born, just spelled it like Bari) & I guess now I've been turned on to Nel. Gotta check out this book.
Wonderful post. Congrats and continued success with The Free Press.
Despite the left’s single-minded fixation on it, our society is not divided by race, sex, or sexuality. We are split by ideas. To test this hypothesis, all one needs to do is to consider how the left treats minorities who don’t support their agenda or who are Republican.
Just ordered Nellie’s book. I admire both of these ladies.
So honest, thank you!!
These two are the best example I have ever seen of being hoist on their own petard. They lived by the sword.
I never forget that they both enthusiastically practiced it until it came for them. I'm glad they did walk away at least, but I'm not starstruck at all.
105:53 Nellie looks like a model in this shot. Glamor Shots by Deb!
Great couple
Beautiful home ❤
Very interesting
Fascinating conversation. Thank you
Great interview!
Why doesnt any of this surprise me? Its always about the money.
Conservatives saw this years earlier. So why are they still only talking about them rather than with them?
They shouldn’t have porta-potties they should have real bathrooms.
Rush Limbaugh could’ve told you 20 or 30 years ago about this, but of course you didn’t wanna listen
These two women have no idea of history and how much danger this country is in, or worse yet they do and this is their response 🤔
Umm I believe they do. I just saw a speech Bari Weiss did back in October, I believe at the Federalist Society, & she made very clear the danger she sees we are in.
Progressives have never had a mind
Bari, the rest of us figured out that progressives were nuts 20 years ago. Welcome to the club, but wow it took you two awhile.
You are correct. They both enthusiastically practiced cancel culture until it came for them.
Accepting this kind of juvenile attacks in a so-called mainstream, highly thought of workplace is not ok.
59:20 good for her for admitting her schadenfreude and antisocial tendencies... ruins someone's life... "hey at least i'm talking it out!"
Whoever the supposed friend was who stopped being her friend because she didn't Tweet to get someone fired wasn't a real friend.
No sympathy, gals. No sympathy
Your lived experience is not as worthy in San Francisco as progressive’s “but studies showed” 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Great interview. I just wish someone wasn’t crinkling a fricken bag the entire time in the background
A voice of sanity in the sea of insanity. Go FP!
WOW!
You two are the most beautiful and precious couple and you are a lighthouse in a dark scene. I adore you both and hope to give you my love in person one day.
Just the best/worst example of woke bubbles. In the immortal words of Christopher Hitchens if you cant speak you cant write. I have heard enough from these 2 for a life time.
38:00 part of "self reflection" of whiteness sounds extremely similar to China's cultural revolution movements.
She's a convert to Judaism who married an ethnocentric Jewish supremacist Israeli spy. And is trying to do a "fellow white people..." to subvert and demoralize whites.
Gorgeousness!
Power Couple Final boss 😍
Karl Marx is alive and well, and he is embedded in the DEI movement.
Another baby? My very best wishes to you and yours.
I was dismantling whiteness long before it was cool: I have never been on time in my life
Two brave women standing up to the mob.
Oh pls.
I gather you disagree.
@@pwk22 vehemently. They ARE the mob.
A Jewish lesbian couple who've had two babies... Yeah, that's pretty "sane"
This is the story of Mao's cultural revolution and communist Russia!
I’m Star struck!
That’s very odd that she still had respect for the New York Times in the year 2019. I could see maybe 1979… The bloom was off the rose way before 2019. Very naïve. Well, at least she realizes the truth now.
Of course, I ordered the book and subscribed to The Free Press. We desperately need more fine women like these two.
So much here to think about. The one thing I will say is about the frivolous use of words like Hitler.
Nellie's book is a great read, but also depressing as it makes it pretty clear why the general public has lost faith in institutions.
Zersetzung.
Mao
Bari Weiss is so smart and seems so personable, yet I don't understand why she chose to have a child who will never know their father.
That is an assumption on your part. Gay families often have close and supportive relationships with the donor and extended families. Nellie even talks about it. As a grandfather I couldn’t be happier that I’m part of my grandkids life.
@@mikesadventures They often do, but not always. Even so, it's confusing for children. I don't even think it's right for single women to have children from donors. Having a relationship with your parents, and at the very least knowing who they are, is fundamental.
I am personally involved in an adoption. It is a massive loss for a child to not know where they came from, and they are profoundly affected by this loss. Being created from donor egg and/or sperm sets up a person for the same profound loss. Every cell in your body carries your genetics; and not just your appearance, intellect, size, and health is heritable but personality also. I hope this couple’s child will have the opportunity to know its father in some capacity.