Much too easy for we in the West, to criticize Russians for not protesting against the war in Ukraine. The danger is too great for Russians to protest in the streets. We in the West must let Russia know THAT WE ARE NOT ANTI RUSSIAN, but against this war and Putin. We need Russia back into the world community to solve bigger problems confronting ALL OF MANKIND, exchanging culturally and in all sports, and confronting environmental issues. Your work is so important, as journalists, your courage exemplary. rr Normandy, Fra.
Agreed and well said. I think most Americans would empathize with the Russian people too. Even if they truly support the war, its kinda like when people here get sucked into cults- we try to help them reintegrate while holding the ringleaders responsible for their abuses.
зимородок I flew threw the forest on February 23 2022 The sun shining with my друзья chirping and everything at perfect peace and harmony among the evergreens. Then down one evergreen came an oil serpent and in this serpent was the tanks moving on the borders of perfect peace. The fruit of the forbidden fruit. Death! And Truly this is what we've seen. I flew away far away from the land of death. Far away from the land of death. Far away from the curse of Vlad the Impaler. Many things this bird will testify to in the future. This vision is true and stands in the firmament of the heavens with Christ as witness.
Ich glaube so haben sich 1933-38 auch viele Deutsche verhalten. Wer nicht mitmachen will, wird zum Staatsfeind. Traurig, daß vorrauseilender Gehorsam, Leute dazu veranlasst, Kinder auszuhorchen, was die Eltern so reden. Das ist Nazi Drehbuch!
Putin only Man against all 🐕🐕🐕🐕🦅., warmongering nuclear democracy NATO /USA...... Long life to Cristian ortodox COMUNIST. Russian people.... america paper House Is collapsing.....until the poor countries Will be able to maintain the american. arrogant parasite good Life!?!?!
Great item, good graphics, sad to see that the good people of Russia are restricted in voicing their discontent. I hope for the sake of the Russians and the rest of the world that change will come. And that the people will be able to breath freely and voice their opinion openly. And yes, also if they do agree with Putin. First of all free all political prisoners.
I have seen you on the BBC with Stephen Sackur. Thanks for your tireless work. Protests are difficult in Russia now, with the new anti democratic laws, instituted since the war. I followed a story of this young lady that wrote "no war" on grocery store tags and she was arrested and facing 15 years. Her appeal was denied. A University professor lost his job for simply commenting on the war online. So sad 😔 People can't risk their employment if they are supporting family. I watched "Navalny" produced by CNN. It followed his poisoning, recovery and his tracking down and exposure of his poisoners, sent by the Kremlin; his decision to return to Russia and his ultimate imprisonment....sad.
That's it! Great! That level and information is how it shall be done in English version! Now the next step - you need to start speaking about news that are not related to either Russia or the war.
Great work, keep it up and one day your people will be free to speak. I am curious to know why the police and such like don't turn against the government.
Very informative video. My only objection is to this dramatic music in the background, it make it hard to hear everything he says. But good work guys!!
This explanation doesn't make sense. It basically boils down to "Russian laws are strict and protestors get suppressed", but so are the conditions in Iran and Myanmar right now, in Romania in 1989, Hungary in 1956 etc. and despite thousands of casualties that didn't stop them. The reality is that actually very few Russians are against the war, the majority are neutral, cowards or in favor of it. Zero Russian protesters have been killed by police yet they "prematurely" stopped protesting, because it didn't reach the critical mass needed to overthrow a government. If you arrest, jail or kill half of your population the government and the war machine will stop, but if only 0.3% Russian are willing to take that risk no surprise nothing will change.
Firstly, it is not a fact that everything will be as you wrote. Look at the example of Belarus. Moreover, those opposition leaders who in Russia could mobilize people for such a big action, either in prison or shot dead, like Nemtsov, you must have heard about all these cases. And yes, people in Russia are unlikely to spontaneously protest all at once. Many want to live at least a little without revolutions and bullshit, many are in severe apathy and despair, because, God knows, we fought against this regime for many years, but this didn't prevent the war, which we are very sorry about, which is probably our fault as well. But don't forget that the protests in Russia now are a direct path to prison. In a Russian prison, they starve you, torture you, rape you with mops, and do a lot of other things that you won't like. Вообще очень досадно, что такие просвещенные цивилизованные люди, как вы, не пришли на помощь нам, немытым аборигенам, лет 10 назад, когда ещё что-то можно было сделать. Всем тогда было насрать, business as usual. Мы ведь говорили, что тут назревает полный трэш. Надеюсь, что хотя бы сейчас не дадут заднюю западные правительства и эта война поскорее закончится.
@@Ohfox I agree. It is quite sad that in the west we have always viewed the Russians as either something to mock or something to contain or something to fear. Instead, we should have hepled them. I hope that someone in our governments will have the bright idea of recognizing what Russians recognized 10 years ago: Putin is not the legitimate president of Russia. He is an occupier who has blatantly falsified elections, bought unswerving allegiance from the mass media through hook or more often through crook, robbed the country of vast ammounts of untold mountains of wealth, and divided, jailed and murdered oppositionists great and small. His law enforcement, judicial, military and intelligence bodies seem to reward loyalty to him personally and an obedience that knows no limits above all else. He does not represent Russia, he believes he personifies it. He does not give a shit about it, only the power and prestige it can give him. He is no more legitimately the leader of Russia than he is of Ukraine or of Botswana. So what to do? And how to avoid a power vaccuum that favors the violent after his departure? Well, the West must do what it always boasts about, but always fails to do. Show leadership. Russians are not a cancer that must be eliminated or contained. Instead our leaders must show actual leadership qualities. They must court the Russian people. They must give them options...they need to find people that can form a government-in-exile, and mentor and develope them. Not mere puppets, but people that both the Russians and the west can really get behind. Boris Nemtsov would have been one. Navalny or Kara-Murza could have been others. Khodorkovsky is probably the most obvious choice now as a standard bearer. Perhaps Tinkoff or Ksenia Sobcha could be of use. Even some former Putin people like Aleksei Kudrin. There really is no shortage of capable people. But they need organization, financing, promotion, and developement. People need a flag to rally around, they need a cause to fight for. That's my opinion, but I'm just a marginally educated unelected municipal employee from Bumfuck, USA.
Russia doesnt have the same idea of active citizenship that exists in most European countries. Active citizenship means you organise, and if necessary protest. You criticise the government when it makes mistakes. You don't simply awallow every decision with fatalism. I accept that some such as Navalny, Kara Murza had such a concept of active citizenship. But I think most - especially older Russians - still have a Sovietic idea (and indeed a Tsarist one) of passive obedience.
We who can remember the worldwide demonstrations against the US imperialistic war against the Vietnamese people to rule for themselves, might ask the question, why are there no demonstrations outside the russian embassies around the world, against the russian imperialistic war in Ukraine, or are there there that I don't know of ? Please let me know.
Let's cheer for North Korea to expel US imperialists from S Korea and have the Korean people "rule themselves" while you're at it. And let's cheer for the CCP to rule Taiwan, the last vestige of non communist China too. Because according to you, waging communist expansionist wars is somehow "ruling for themselves".
I live in a country where although I can protest freely (within certain societal guidelines, for eg. without hate or discrimination) I have never in my 57 years felt the need to protest. This is mostly due to knowing that the structures are in place to iron out the concerns of the masses (although I might add not entirely!). I can't imagine what it must be like living in Russia right now where they are so gagged they can hardly breathe. I do sympathise with the Russian population as you must surely don't want what has been thrust upon you all...by your leaders. Just remember one thing...the power is in your hands but you must do it together. They can't throw 100 plus million people in Prison if you are soldified and this horrendous mess you are all in, thanks to...well you know who, will be over and you will prosper like you should....
Just to add an update on 6/25 - seems as if Prighozin protested the war in Ukraine :D I guess the question is whether people were cheering Wagner because they see them as heroes defending the motherland, or just because they were glad someone finally stood up to expose the lies.
A 40 year old activist died after being tortured in the special detention centre of Rostov on Don. He pasted up leaflets off ”I want to live” project on how to surrender. He had been arrested 3 times since May. They used a stun gun and broke his ribs. I people inform on other people for the smallest and most petty of things. I am angry that they don’t all rise up. They can’t arrest them all. And that the mobilised don’t try their guns on those forcing them into the meat grinder. Surely it is better than becoming murderers or living a lifetime in silent fear. The Ukrainians have it much worse being constantly bombed. I am the biggest coward but I honestly think I would rather have a bomb dropped on me and live what life I have amongst people I can trust. Than live under Russian rule or occupation. To have no control over your life and what happens to you to fearful of saying or doing the wrong thing and the people around me. Having to listen to and accept lies as truth.
7:45 "The largest part of the Russian population can be classified as a passive majority. These are the people who do not support the war but are also not ready to oppose it. They just try to live their lives as they normally would and not think about the war next door." This is actually really contemptible. It's not an expression of apolitical neutrality. It's an expression of cowardly complicity. Because of the Russian people's cowardice Putin is allowed and encouraged to continue his atrocities with impunity. Even those that have fled Russia can't be bothered to protest or go on demonstrations. When compared to the heroism of the Iranian girls and women who risked their lives to defend their rights by protesting it's really sickening
Thanks for that. It is interesting but it doesn't align with what some other commentators say, about the Russian public. Your position seems to be common amongst educated and younder Russians, particularly those that live in St Persberg and Moscow. As you say a majority are politically neutral and for good reason. However some say the more decentralised the people the more supportive of Putin, his war, and his propaganda. Whether that is down to lack of education or a more rural 'conservatirm' or just being stuck in the Soviet time warp I do not know.
Это конечно мелочь, но почему радиоактивное-то вещество? ФОС радиоактивность не проявляют. Понимаю, это небольшая деталь, но просто хочется внимательного отношения к информации, фактам, данным...
While it is understandable that an individual decides against participating in protests under these circumstances: Why is protest on a large scale happening in Iran, but not in Russia? There is clearly some kind of social cohesion which makes people courageous and defiant. It does not seem to exist in Russia.
@@Julian-pd9fg I think you are right. What I notice is that a lot of people call themselves ‘a-political’. For example in video’s on the 1420 channel. As long as you keep confusing people and refuse them access to other media than state-controlled garbage people stay ignorant to what is really going on. Another thing is selfishness. ‘As long as it doesn’t affect me I will not bother’. Unfortunately…
Is it preferable to stay locked up in the MadMan's regime for generations? Or just hope someone else will solve their own damn problem? There is a cost of doing something, but also a cost of doing nothing. Just one example is thousands of mobilized killed as cannon fodder. Lying in the trenches waiting for the final grenade, they might have wished that they had handled the protesting part in a dramatically different manner. Ceterum censeo Putinem esse delendam.
@@Julian-pd9fg A simplistic question with complicated answers. I'm no expert on Russia, Iran, or anything else. But I know enough about the state of affairs in Russia to recognize that they are in a different situation. I.e., what option currently exists for Russians to make them risk their lives and remaining freedom? Many people think "well the end to the war is that option!" I agree, but there's the naggling question that Russians face that westerners and Ukrainians ignore....what next? Right now, the most probable outcomes are all bad for the Russians. Expecting someone to risk their freedom and possibly their rectum for the possibility to trade one known bad situation for an unknown bad outcome is a pretty big ask. Ukrainians on the Maidan, and Iranians now, had something to protest "for." Now Russians only have things to protest "against."
Excellent information. Timely, as always. Many thanks, TV Rain
Excellent, objective assessment of the situation. I am very happy to see english language content from Dožd.
Thanks, interesting topic! One need to remember these protests as well!
Your work is so important in these dark times, thank you for everythinjg you do.
🗽🇺🇸Great reporting!🗣️Watched when you aired in Russia & just found your news in English🥰 We stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇸💙💛🌻🫂 with much Love 🙏 ... #TVrain
Watching from Australia. Keep up the great work.
We all, all in the free world, so much appreciate your courage and fortitude. 🌷🌼🌺🌸🌻🌹💐 Love to you all
Glad to have found your output. Very good.
Much too easy for we in the West, to criticize Russians for not protesting against the war in Ukraine. The danger is too great for Russians to protest in the streets. We in the West must let Russia know THAT WE ARE NOT ANTI RUSSIAN, but against this war and Putin. We need Russia back into the world community to solve bigger problems confronting ALL OF MANKIND, exchanging culturally and in all sports, and confronting environmental issues. Your work is so important, as journalists, your courage exemplary. rr Normandy, Fra.
Agreed and well said. I think most Americans would empathize with the Russian people too. Even if they truly support the war, its kinda like when people here get sucked into cults- we try to help them reintegrate while holding the ringleaders responsible for their abuses.
зимородок I flew threw the forest on February 23 2022 The sun shining with my друзья chirping and everything at perfect peace and harmony among the evergreens. Then down one evergreen came an oil serpent and in this serpent was the tanks moving on the borders of perfect peace. The fruit of the forbidden fruit. Death! And Truly this is what we've seen. I flew away far away from the land of death. Far away from the land of death. Far away from the curse of Vlad the Impaler. Many things this bird will testify to in the future. This vision is true and stands in the firmament of the heavens with Christ as witness.
Ich glaube so haben sich 1933-38 auch viele Deutsche verhalten. Wer nicht mitmachen will, wird zum Staatsfeind. Traurig, daß vorrauseilender Gehorsam, Leute dazu veranlasst, Kinder auszuhorchen, was die Eltern so reden.
Das ist Nazi Drehbuch!
Putin only Man against all 🐕🐕🐕🐕🦅., warmongering nuclear democracy NATO /USA...... Long life to Cristian ortodox COMUNIST. Russian people.... america paper House Is collapsing.....until the poor countries Will be able to maintain the american. arrogant parasite good Life!?!?!
It is also too dangerous to protest in America!
Great job, TV Rain!
Freedom to the nations of Russia! STOP THE INVASION! Glory to Ukraine!!
Great item, good graphics, sad to see that the good people of Russia are restricted in voicing their discontent. I hope for the sake of the Russians and the rest of the world that change will come. And that the people will be able to breath freely and voice their opinion openly. And yes, also if they do agree with Putin. First of all free all political prisoners.
100%
I have seen you on the BBC with Stephen Sackur. Thanks for your tireless work.
Protests are difficult in Russia now, with the new anti democratic laws, instituted since the war.
I followed a story of this young lady that wrote "no war" on grocery store tags and she was arrested and facing 15 years. Her appeal was denied.
A University professor lost his job for simply commenting on the war online.
So sad 😔
People can't risk their employment if they are supporting family.
I watched "Navalny" produced by CNN. It followed his poisoning, recovery and his tracking down and exposure of his poisoners, sent by the Kremlin; his decision to return to Russia and his ultimate imprisonment....sad.
Russian police should not follow such ludicrous orders.
they've been literally conditioned to be the way they are for over a hundred years now. Ever since the red terror.
That's it! Great! That level and information is how it shall be done in English version! Now the next step - you need to start speaking about news that are not related to either Russia or the war.
Great work, keep it up and one day your people will be free to speak. I am curious to know why the police and such like don't turn against the government.
Russia is a prison of 11 time zones. The new archipelago gulag..
Good video very interesting
illegitimate laws must be ignored . . .
Very informative video. My only objection is to this dramatic music in the background, it make it hard to hear everything he says. But good work guys!!
Chemical substance, not radioactive
This explanation doesn't make sense. It basically boils down to "Russian laws are strict and protestors get suppressed", but so are the conditions in Iran and Myanmar right now, in Romania in 1989, Hungary in 1956 etc. and despite thousands of casualties that didn't stop them.
The reality is that actually very few Russians are against the war, the majority are neutral, cowards or in favor of it. Zero Russian protesters have been killed by police yet they "prematurely" stopped protesting, because it didn't reach the critical mass needed to overthrow a government. If you arrest, jail or kill half of your population the government and the war machine will stop, but if only 0.3% Russian are willing to take that risk no surprise nothing will change.
Firstly, it is not a fact that everything will be as you wrote. Look at the example of Belarus. Moreover, those opposition leaders who in Russia could mobilize people for such a big action, either in prison or shot dead, like Nemtsov, you must have heard about all these cases. And yes, people in Russia are unlikely to spontaneously protest all at once. Many want to live at least a little without revolutions and bullshit, many are in severe apathy and despair, because, God knows, we fought against this regime for many years, but this didn't prevent the war, which we are very sorry about, which is probably our fault as well. But don't forget that the protests in Russia now are a direct path to prison. In a Russian prison, they starve you, torture you, rape you with mops, and do a lot of other things that you won't like.
Вообще очень досадно, что такие просвещенные цивилизованные люди, как вы, не пришли на помощь нам, немытым аборигенам, лет 10 назад, когда ещё что-то можно было сделать. Всем тогда было насрать, business as usual. Мы ведь говорили, что тут назревает полный трэш. Надеюсь, что хотя бы сейчас не дадут заднюю западные правительства и эта война поскорее закончится.
@@Ohfox I agree. It is quite sad that in the west we have always viewed the Russians as either something to mock or something to contain or something to fear. Instead, we should have hepled them. I hope that someone in our governments will have the bright idea of recognizing what Russians recognized 10 years ago: Putin is not the legitimate president of Russia. He is an occupier who has blatantly falsified elections, bought unswerving allegiance from the mass media through hook or more often through crook, robbed the country of vast ammounts of untold mountains of wealth, and divided, jailed and murdered oppositionists great and small. His law enforcement, judicial, military and intelligence bodies seem to reward loyalty to him personally and an obedience that knows no limits above all else. He does not represent Russia, he believes he personifies it. He does not give a shit about it, only the power and prestige it can give him. He is no more legitimately the leader of Russia than he is of Ukraine or of Botswana.
So what to do? And how to avoid a power vaccuum that favors the violent after his departure?
Well, the West must do what it always boasts about, but always fails to do. Show leadership. Russians are not a cancer that must be eliminated or contained. Instead our leaders must show actual leadership qualities. They must court the Russian people. They must give them options...they need to find people that can form a government-in-exile, and mentor and develope them. Not mere puppets, but people that both the Russians and the west can really get behind. Boris Nemtsov would have been one. Navalny or Kara-Murza could have been others. Khodorkovsky is probably the most obvious choice now as a standard bearer. Perhaps Tinkoff or Ksenia Sobcha could be of use. Even some former Putin people like Aleksei Kudrin. There really is no shortage of capable people. But they need organization, financing, promotion, and developement. People need a flag to rally around, they need a cause to fight for.
That's my opinion, but I'm just a marginally educated unelected municipal employee from Bumfuck, USA.
Russia doesnt have the same idea of active citizenship that exists in most European countries. Active citizenship means you organise, and if necessary protest. You criticise the government when it makes mistakes. You don't simply awallow every decision with fatalism. I accept that some such as Navalny, Kara Murza had such a concept of active citizenship. But I think most - especially older Russians - still have a Sovietic idea (and indeed a Tsarist one) of passive obedience.
Ask these ruSSian "protesters" who does Crimea belong to. Absolutely nobody will say "Ukraine" without hesitation. They're all the same.
Have you ever asked them?
We who can remember the worldwide demonstrations against the US imperialistic war against the Vietnamese people to rule for themselves, might ask the question, why are there no demonstrations outside the russian embassies around the world, against the russian imperialistic war in Ukraine, or are there there that I don't know of ? Please let me know.
Let's cheer for North Korea to expel US imperialists from S Korea and have the Korean people "rule themselves" while you're at it. And let's cheer for the CCP to rule Taiwan, the last vestige of non communist China too.
Because according to you, waging communist expansionist wars is somehow "ruling for themselves".
I’ve seen a good amount of protesting in front of Russian Embassies, though it was more at the start of the war.
Важный ролик, спасибо дождь.
I live in a country where although I can protest freely (within certain societal guidelines, for eg. without hate or discrimination) I have never in my 57 years felt the need to protest. This is mostly due to knowing that the structures are in place to iron out the concerns of the masses (although I might add not entirely!). I can't imagine what it must be like living in Russia right now where they are so gagged they can hardly breathe. I do sympathise with the Russian population as you must surely don't want what has been thrust upon you all...by your leaders. Just remember one thing...the power is in your hands but you must do it together. They can't throw 100 plus million people in Prison if you are soldified and this horrendous mess you are all in, thanks to...well you know who, will be over and you will prosper like you should....
Just to add an update on 6/25 - seems as if Prighozin protested the war in Ukraine :D I guess the question is whether people were cheering Wagner because they see them as heroes defending the motherland, or just because they were glad someone finally stood up to expose the lies.
A 40 year old activist died after being tortured in the special detention centre of Rostov on Don. He pasted up leaflets off ”I want to live” project on how to surrender. He had been arrested 3 times since May. They used a stun gun and broke his ribs.
I people inform on other people for the smallest and most petty of things.
I am angry that they don’t all rise up. They can’t arrest them all. And that the mobilised don’t try their guns on those forcing them into the meat grinder. Surely it is better than becoming murderers or living a lifetime in silent fear.
The Ukrainians have it much worse being constantly bombed. I am the biggest coward but I honestly think I would rather have a bomb dropped on me and live what life I have amongst people I can trust. Than live under Russian rule or occupation. To have no control over your life and what happens to you to fearful of saying or doing the wrong thing and the people around me. Having to listen to and accept lies as truth.
They are Mindless Robots 🤖
7:45 "The largest part of the Russian population can be classified as a passive majority. These are the people who do not support the war but are also not ready to oppose it. They just try to live their lives as they normally would and not think about the war next door."
This is actually really contemptible. It's not an expression of apolitical neutrality. It's an expression of cowardly complicity. Because of the Russian people's cowardice Putin is allowed and encouraged to continue his atrocities with impunity. Even those that have fled Russia can't be bothered to protest or go on demonstrations. When compared to the heroism of the Iranian girls and women who risked their lives to defend their rights by protesting it's really sickening
Thanks for that. It is interesting but it doesn't align with what some other commentators say, about the Russian public. Your position seems to be common amongst educated and younder Russians, particularly those that live in St Persberg and Moscow. As you say a majority are politically neutral and for good reason. However some say the more decentralised the people the more supportive of Putin, his war, and his propaganda. Whether that is down to lack of education or a more rural 'conservatirm' or just being stuck in the Soviet time warp I do not know.
Все решительные люди ушли в партизаны - диверсанты
I see Americans making videos in Russia and other countries all the time, compare that with cities in the USA.
what
Это конечно мелочь, но почему радиоактивное-то вещество? ФОС радиоактивность не проявляют. Понимаю, это небольшая деталь, но просто хочется внимательного отношения к информации, фактам, данным...
Same as in France… i mean France is a democraty so where is the point with these information?
NATO
Let's face it, you don't protest if you know you're gonna get locked up and your family is going to be punished as well
While it is understandable that an individual decides against participating in protests under these circumstances: Why is protest on a large scale happening in Iran, but not in Russia? There is clearly some kind of social cohesion which makes people courageous and defiant. It does not seem to exist in Russia.
@@Julian-pd9fg what do you think the reason is?
@@Julian-pd9fg I think you are right. What I notice is that a lot of people call themselves ‘a-political’. For example in video’s on the 1420 channel. As long as you keep confusing people and refuse them access to other media than state-controlled garbage people stay ignorant to what is really going on. Another thing is selfishness. ‘As long as it doesn’t affect me I will not bother’. Unfortunately…
Is it preferable to stay locked up in the MadMan's regime for generations? Or just hope someone else will solve their own damn problem? There is a cost of doing something, but also a cost of doing nothing. Just one example is thousands of mobilized killed as cannon fodder. Lying in the trenches waiting for the final grenade, they might have wished that they had handled the protesting part in a dramatically different manner. Ceterum censeo Putinem esse delendam.
@@Julian-pd9fg A simplistic question with complicated answers. I'm no expert on Russia, Iran, or anything else. But I know enough about the state of affairs in Russia to recognize that they are in a different situation. I.e., what option currently exists for Russians to make them risk their lives and remaining freedom? Many people think "well the end to the war is that option!" I agree, but there's the naggling question that Russians face that westerners and Ukrainians ignore....what next? Right now, the most probable outcomes are all bad for the Russians. Expecting someone to risk their freedom and possibly their rectum for the possibility to trade one known bad situation for an unknown bad outcome is a pretty big ask. Ukrainians on the Maidan, and Iranians now, had something to protest "for." Now Russians only have things to protest "against."
Who said a country gets a country gets the kind of govt it diserves?
Хорошо, что фишмана от этого бремени освободили)
Мне тоже его чудовищный акцент не нравится
потому что мы не против