Corsair's Latest Innovations: No RGB, Cheap(er) AIOs
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- Corsair's Latest Innovations: No RGB, Cheap(er) AIOs - Computex 2024
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0:00 Welcome to Corsair @ Computex 2024
0:36 Corsair's Revamped Fans - RS and RS Max, LX RGB
4:04 Titan RX RGB AIO, updated AIO naming scheme
7:19 3500X $90 base price case in black and white
9:26 Corsair 9000D - ridiculously huge case (1000D successor)
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when "NO-RGB" starts to be a selling point. :-)
Also gives a 15% speed increase, over the previously stated 10% from RGB natively ;)
It is.
@@saintuk70 We can yet reach 25%, if they add RGB to no-RGB
Can't wait to scuff at the RGB kiddos when I finally have these
@@netiturtle :o)
artic is the best in this department. Insane performance, no RGB.
$150 USD for the 280mm AIO is still pretty expensive when you take Thermalright and Deepcool into account. Corsair could afford to be way more aggressive in pricing, especially given their coolers don't even perform at the top of most charts...
Agreed
Totally agreed.. better to land in around the $80-100 mark for the 240... the 360 should be no more than $100-125
True enough especially with Thermalright killing the Air cooler market at the moment heck even Noctua should be aware of them lol
I completely agree, not to forget arctic! They have a 360mm AIO with a VRM fan for like 95 USD on amazon,
The liquid freezer 3 in rgb is cheaper
"Just a fan" Yes please.
The market already spoke on this issue. Why does it bother people so much? It's really nice to be able to change the vibe of an enthusiast appliance with a simple button press.
@@hansolo631 Performance + Function > Flashy RGB with RGB Tax. It's just that simple. For people that want RGB there are plenty of Corsair RGB fans they can choose from.
@@snakeplissken8887 Are you this absolutely devoted to pure, cold "performance" in all aspects of your life?
For the record my fans were probably like 1/8th the cost of corsair's cheapest, they look stunning, my 7800X3d and 4080 have never made a peep. Like I've never seen the fans turn on the GPU, and the cpu is at 40.2 C with 9 browsers open and a bunch of nothing programs.
Paying the corsair tax is way, way more silly than any rgb tax. The corsair and noctua tax is what, like 300%?
@@hansolo631 A sector of the market has spoken. I come from a different sector. I don't want my computer to look like a float in a pride parade.
@@hansolo631 "Are you this absolutely devoted to pure, cold "performance" in all aspects of your life?"
What a silly question. I care about performance above everything on my computer. I don't care about performance with my garden chairs, motorcycle fuel, or choice of KFC meal.
We are not monoliths who apply the same standard to every aspect of our lives.
I wish Lian Li would follow the same strategy. Their modular fans / cases with NO RGB for cheaper would be awesome.
I thought they did a no rgb fan like that? Maybe the ones I am thinking of don't have the connection that the new ones have?
My favorite, a fan that is just a fan.
Love your channel Paul! Your news is among the best!
still expensive when i can get like an Arctic 360mm AIO for $99
edit: with 3 rgb fans that are great too and VRM cooling
What do I think when I see corsair? HX520W PSU, it served me well and probably still would work if I used it. My first thought, then it would be AIOs, A50 120mm AIO 😊 After that a lot has happened but those 2 were Corsairs stars at start long time ago. RAM, almost.forgot about their spectacular RAM at the time.
Have to say tho, since then it all got overcomplicated and they aren't best perf per dollar anymore in a lot of segments they were if they are in any nowdays. But I still like the brand.
8:11 I said the same thing when GN showed this case lol. I love the single centralized light source.
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It might be just me but the LCP color is actually stunning, I love that shade! My next build that I am putting together will definitely center around that theme. Will have wait and see 3rd party tests results for the final decision, I'm debating between Corsairs' RS MAX and D30 from Phanteks.
Hardware Busters tested both the 120mm and the 140mm, the 140mm was a disappointment, but the 120mm performed very well in noise normalised tests. The review is up on their site.
Corsair do seem to make nice hardware!
The market is changing, with every PC part costing over $100 we need more things like this. Without cheap alternatives that also perform well a lot of people would just give up. I remember when building a decent PC with a mid gpu was almost as cheap as buying a console, now trying to build anything under $1000 is downright impossible with all these stupid terrifs, inflation and scalping going on.
There are plenty of better AIOs that cost less than Corsair products.
So RGB-less fans and some accent lighting. Isn't that basically what we used to do 20 years ago when the first windowed cases started popping up?
The Corsair AIO with wires from the radiator was actually kind of a pain in the bottom since the bottom jutted out and the tubing was slightly off center, which made it difficult to fit in some cases and radiator racks
They need to brand the no-frills line of products "Justa".
justa case
justa cooler
justa fan
justa little bit cheaper
My wallet doesn't allow me to think about corsair
I will not pay more than 7 usd for a single fan. Thank you corsair for efforts.
Loving the new look on cases.👍
Glad to see Corsair building more metal cases, for cheap!
Great coverage Paul 🙂 It'll be good to get some comparisons between the more budget Corsair fans and something like the Arctic P12 range that can be $5/£4 each but still deliver solid performance.
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I would appreciate a video of noctua vs be quiet vs Corsair. I just want the most silent but high performance options.
from GN test, the best AIO (from a noise / performance ratio) are the arctic liquid freezer
the biggest they have is the arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 rgb, and it's 160$. So if Corsair 240mm is 150$, it better be a good performer 👀
Like the y shape cut outs
For the lower cost AIO's, I'd expect similar or less prices than Arctic's A-RGB rates. As an example I looked up the Arctic Freezer II 420A-RGB is at $99.99. The Freezer III 420A-RGB is at $134.99. Again this is at maximum. Like others have mentioned there are many other lower cost AIO options that would perform similarly with similar reliability. Morals/ethics are dope until it's unaffordable, then you buy what you can. That's how the market thinks at least.
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So glad there's a bit of a swing toward no rgb and basic functionality. I look at my screen, not my computer and why get all that bling in there to not be looked at, not make anything work better, but cost more money. I prefer no rgb
Exactly what I just want. Just a good quality fan. Everything else is vanity.
Very true Paul! Corsair has lesser fans (I am not talking about the cooling kind). They seem to have lost the plot with overpriced products. If they can bring down the price of their products, maybe they'll gain back their fans.
My non-RGB ML120 Pro says hi! Looking at the RS120 MAX now.
Thanks for your efforts
Yamaha uses the Y on there THR series of guitar amps. almost like the Corsair case was made by the same company.
i had to spend several minutes on google in order find out how to turn off RGB from my MB and GPU. and i had to install some software in order to do that. i prefer my lights to be on the screen
No RGB is a plus in my book.
Given the performance of AIOs vs the better air coolers and the cost of industry "standard custom cooling" , the only way I'd go liquid cooled is "true custom". I want high end cold plates with plumbing industry standard "NPT" threaded fittings (which may already be the case, IDK).
I have some antique automotive parts that I'd put to work: radiator, fan, and water pump from a 1948 Willys Jeep. I'd build that into a system using a combination of sweat-soldered copper fitting and tubing along with AN fittings and steel braided automotive hose. The belt-driven water pump and the fan attached to it would be driven by a fairly hefty DC motor on a controller and it's own power supply.
If I went all-out, I could fab some sheet metal with some 3D printed greebles and mount the rest of the PC inline behind the water pump disguised as an old flat-head inline four cylinder engine. Could be a lot of fun.
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First PC, all white with loads of RGB. My Next PC in the planning. All black, no RGB, no AIO anymore.
Same. I don’t even want the side panel anymore. Looking at a Be Quiet case or that fractal north case with mesh siding.
Might try not swinging to extremes and have a nice balance.
I went with AIO cause I think the fan over the CPU was ugly asf lol
Good quality non-rgb fans (and rgb too) are easy to find at way less than what Corsair likes to charge. The "ninja look" PCs have been common recently, too.
was thier booth hidden or the invite only. its pretty dark and i dont recall seeing it, but i was busy with my own stuff.
A fan is just a fan, what a concept and cheaper, wow, where have these company’s been?!
Oh, we got to test that AIO with the Corsair pump
i know its going to sound REALLY ambitious, but how about a SUPER smol screen on the middle of the fan aio cover??
and when Corsair switches to the "Y" vents, i know its WWAAYY out there; dontcha thinka they had "inspiration" from Hyte? 🤔
I want a 9000D to build in!
Considering i just bought a Thermalright Aqua Elite 360 for £49.09, then 150 is not okay for a 280mm AIO
I could only take 6:55 of this with the background noise of the room. Corsair should take note to not put so many in the same space at one time.
The only fan in my case that is rgb is front fan. Lets me know pc is on if my monitor from 2006 is off. I need new han because 2 of four lights are out.
i dont want a cheap aio i want an aio that will last.
Deep Cool and Thermaltake (and othEr companies) make excellent AIO coolers that perform well, are reliable, and last. Best of all they are all under $200 and many are under $100. They mostly use the same pumps the expensive coolers use. AIOs don't need to be expensive to work. You can even buy inexpensive round lcd displays to mount on the pump of plain AIOs. There is no need to spend a lot for a quality AIO.
Well that’s your problem you think “more money = higher quality” and that’s not true.
In fact there’s a point where “more money = worse quality” because those companies know you’ll spend the money without doing any kind of research into the products quality.
With AIOs, it won’t matter which one you buy because they all are pretty much made by the same company with a different logo slapped on.
A corsair AIO that's a competitive price would be great. If 150 bucks for a 280mm AIO means I could get a 360mm for under 200 bucks then I'd actually consider buying from Corsair
"hceaper" i didn't heard that word in hi tech for decades 😂
$150 cheap? I nearly chocked on my toast. Some RGB is fine as i like my room dark and light from the fan makes the room a little lighter. AIO is a must when running something like a 5900x. My recent AIO went bust, tried air cooling the damn thing is running so hot that it's heating up my gpu. Even after tweaking.
I just paid $250 for fittings so I’m not the one to ask… But, no I won’t use aio’s anymore, they just aren’t reliable. It’s full water cooling or air coolers for me.
Me personally, i feel 2 components you never skimp out on are the cooling and the PSU. 150 feels very reasonable.
As for the new Y pattern they started using, that's not for me. It looks more " yeah gamer " than stylish and clean, so i hope future cases can also come with the past alternatives.
Love this stuff, but I'm also using way too many HDDs
I don’t like AIOs so no opinion on that, but I do really like the Ys stamped in the case, I think it looks cool/different. Also the blacked out 3500x looks dope as hell.
I'm really liking the new lineup of fans and AIO's, I just hope by the time these new items come out, they've fixed iCue.
The 9000D is definitely a THICC case. lol
As always Paul, love the video's! GG! :D
excellent!
I think 150 for a 280mm is ok, giving that it has good performance which we won't know yet since these are not asetek anymore
The easy solution to RGB, LCD screen, and hidden cable proliferation is to use a case with no window. That way, you won't be tempted to overspend on that sort of crap; it all becomes irrelevant. With a non-windowed case, not even your plain-Jane GPU, wonky cable management, and brown Noctua fans will matter. But who's making good cases with no window? Actually, lots of such cases are available. I'll be choosing one of them for my next build. I've already set all my RGBs to a single static color or just plain off.
i have been no rgb for years now. feels much more mature and simple
The fact that I can buy a standing fan from walmart for under $15 but a standard pc fan costs double. Crazy
That's a pretty disingenuous comparison - the cheapest chinese junk that Walmart has to offer compared to an actually known high quality, premium PC component manufacturer? If you want ultra cheap PC fans, you can get them for literally a couple dollars on the usual online markets. Hell, I bought a Kingwin 120mm from Microcenter for like $4 a couple years ago just because it was a 120mm fan for $4.
For PWMs, Thermalright TL-C12 & TL-G12 are both available for $5 each on NewEgg - or you can get a 3-pack of TL-C12s for $10; $3.33 per fan(these are the standard fans on the Peerless Assassin 120 cooler, never heard anyone complain about them; they're very comparable to MUCH more expensive fans). There's nothing else even in the ballpark of that of course, cuz Thermalright is doing Thermalright things.
Or there's the classic, Arctic's F12 PWM PSTs(the OG daisy chain) for $30 in a 5-pack.
Be Quiet Pure Wings 2s or 3s for $10 a piece.
Noctua 'Redux' series is ~$15, and they're Noctua quality(and service) obviously.
Completely different standard for tolerances too, stand fans are made of the cheapest materials to mediocre standards because, frankly, that's "good enough". This also isn't a competitive market at all, nothing like the PC fan market, a generic fan can stay on the market 10, 15, 20+ years without changes or 'generational updates' because no one is comparing their performance with hardcore testing, no one cares about new features, or RGB, etc. They're just cheap fans, made cheaply, out of cheap materials and cheap components, to relatively low standards. Frankly, they're comparable to that crappy couple dollar Kingwin fan I bought - not anything that Corsair makes.
You're just comparing 2 completely different things TBH
You can get an Arctic Liquid Freezer 3 240mm for $92 so $150 is really high, and that is their cheap one.
A great video Paul hi from Norway
Just a fan is 10000 rpm or better, not the crap we have now. I'm talking da good sheet from 2006. (You can still get them!)
I love Corsair, but their AIO's cost to performance tends to suffer. I'm interested to see how they fare under rigorous third-party testing. 😮😮
No RGB so I'm not stuck using iq actually interests me. Also not naming it the 9009d so it's over 9000
280mm AIO for $150 that doesn't have LCD screen and maybe still loud pump (unless they dumped Cool IT) doesn't sound very good at all lol. I got my NZXT Kraken 280mm with LCD for around same price.
I bought a Corsair H115i in Jan 2019... I'm still using it and it's now keeping a 5800X3D nice and cool... that's 5yrs.
But I can't bring myself to buy corsair again... My current case, mouse & KB are also corsair as are the fans inside it.... but the quality of their mice and keyboards is pretty bad.
Next time, I want something different... I'm not really a brand junkie. other manufacturers are doing stuff that looks far more interesting... for far less money.
I guess, judging by their current financials (Net revenue: $337.3 million, compared to $417.3 million in Q4 2023), they need to start selling things that most people can afford, hence the lack of RGB and cheaper AIOs. I hope this isn't a one off and also becomes a thing for the whole industry, mainly the no RGB.
When I think Corsair I think of when I bought Ram with a “limited lifetime warranty” that they(Corsair) refused to honor when both sticks failed.
Not a ‘fan’ of AIOs in general. I think $150 for a 280mm is still too much for me. BUT for someone who might want that Corsair ecosystem, I don’t think it’s too much of a price to pay.
Regarding the AIOs, I think Thermalright is going to destroy everyone with 360 AIOs with screens under $120.
Cool !
£30 per RS120 Max fan, damn... but it is nice. Corsair need an Artic Freezer II and III killer, so when will we see that?
At 6:01, it is said (tongue in cheek, no doubt) that cables are shameful. I do not hold such a viewpoint, cables are no more shameful that the tendons on the back of ones hands. Like tendons, cables are vital infrastructure that allow the components to work together as a harmonious whole. That is not to imply that cables need be covered/highlighted with LED's. On the contrary, I am personally weary of seeing the ubiquitous aquarium presentation for PC's. If vibrant coloring and apparent motion is really so important, the aficionada of the same should consider actual salt-water aquariums.
Uhh.. No more maglev fans?? (Sorry, but I'm starting to figure out what fans to get to cool my new (home made) network rank - while pricey, was thinking about using maglev fans (also got other fans under consideration too)...
The 3500 case looks interesting. I don't like RGB.
Make that 3500x in a smaller version and I’d buy one.
Corsair wants to cut costs with cabling/ (costs $150) 🤣... Honestly, Arctic Liquid Freezer aio's are cheaper than most and are super good.
No RGB really is innovation for Corsair :). (sitting next to my corsair case, headphones, mouse, keyboard, and ram)
6:40, 150 is a lot for it.
8:15 - Vader’s PC
Good ideas in corsair the pirates of the pc components.
Here's my response to Corsair for an AIO at that price:
I'll just get an Arctic Liquid Freezer III. Get your pricing under control.
150 quid for an aio, you could get one hell of an air cooler for half of that
still with the disgusting all RGB lcd screen. The black or white cap LCD was so much cleaner. Its too much, they just forcing it into everything.
Corsair lowering cost on new versions of existing product lines…does that mean Corsair is using even flimsier parts to lower the price?
Looks like I'm the real innovator since my current PC which was built in July 2020 has no RGB, in fact it doesn't even have a window (I've been building PCs since 1988 and long ago lost my fasciation on what they look like internally) and for the price of a 240 AIO with RGB I was able to get a 360 with no RGB for the same price. Plus my memory was $25 cheaper than the exact same ones with RGB lighting ...... The exact same case (Phanteks) with RGB fans and a window was $75 more.
I'm still on the same Windows 10 install from July 2020 and don't seem to have nearly as many problems with games as most others do and I believe that is in part due to having zero RGB software running in the background mucking things up ...... So my total system cost was not only cheaper it is noticeably more stable than most of the ones with the goofy light shows
I hope they have plates that are better for AMD AM5 and not just Intel.
150 is a bit rough a lot of their competitors are doing just as good and charging less
My next build will be no RGB, I'm gonna need the room on my desktop for a huuuuuuge monitor
150$ for a 280mm aio 💀
RGB hasn't just jumped the shark, it's jumped every shark. You get RGB all day long at Five and Below. I'm so over it.
15 bucks for a simple, daisy chain, pwm fan. Meanwhile ARCTIC out here dropping 5 packs for $30 for years.
They really need to drop that Corsair tax. Link looks nice but $50/fan is bad. Their stuff looks cool but like Asus they're completely priced out of the budget market.
I really really want ai to cut out the back ground chatter
performance 100%
Corsair be like Apple tax for gamers. Not a fan tbh. Love you and party on Paul..cheers from the UK
But what about the performance loss without the RGB.
Just go Artic freezer 3 👍🏾