They're kinda like exact opposites, spectro and havoc, nuke and dot, one consumes concerto for field time, one lets concerto not be consumed and wants to be off the field as fast as possible
Though another opposite I'd add is that Jinhsi wants a premium team preferably. Zhezhi or Ynlin, and Shorkeeper, though Verina works. Camy likes Sanhua, or 4 star, or even Danjin, and one could argue Verina is often better due to buff duration vs Keeper without S1.
@@dukeofsorrow5722if your s0 shorekeeper buff runs out before your rotation is over, you are either staying too long or just too slow at swapping between characters
@@dukeofsorrow5722 both perform well with f2p teams its just that jinshi has the option of 5 star support,in the future 5 star support may come which will easily replace sanhua,sanhua is good but her buff expires before camiliya goes to budding mode and danjin takes little too much time onfield.
I love both, I have Jin on my second account, and C3 Camellya on my main, she hella slaps and is super fun to play. I would like to give up on team building and play both of them on the same team. W Nukes 🎉
I prefer jinhsi in content. Her enhance skill and ult have i frames and its so nice and easy. Whereas ive been smacked out of camellyas spin and skill many times. Not to mention her energy saving team Jinhsi Mortefi Yuanwu where you use them as just a coord atk bot
Jinshi is single handedly the most boring f2p cope of this game. She won't last a year. Camellya already equals her and her best support is only a 4 star.
I hate when people compare Camellya to Jinhsi, I own them both. S0 for Jinhsi, s6 for Camellya. People need to understand that Jinhsi carries this game at s0. Very user friendly
camellya will have her dedicated support on v2 so her team will be complete soon. zhezhi is dedicated for v2 glacio dps so jinhsi still need a dedicated coordinated atk sub dps and healer with both different element to complete her team in short jinhsi is good for long term than camellya
I got a S1 Jinshi and stacked Zhezhi (Who is getting her Signature and S1) once she has her rerun, so im kinda not sure to grab Camellya, although she looks cool and such!
Stick with the one you like the most, i clear all content with only 4 star until 2 days ago that i got camellya, it doesnt matter how much dmg a char can do if you don't like it, you will probably get bored ngl
I'd go with the dragon chick with 700k damage. This is not even a question to me. -Plus the fact that she manipulates a broadsword as if she's casting down spells from the sky! Look closely how immaculate her animations are when she does doctor strange thing every time! PEAK!
Forgot to mention that Jinhsi is not only in team building but also in gearing premium and expensive. Meanwhile Camellya is very free in every aspect. Most plays have an free emerald from standard or the weapon selection box and also an eclipse echo set for Rover already. On the other hand there isn’t an other spectro dps so you likely have to farm an new set for Jinhsi and there’s no Crit weapon for her except the limited or battle pass one.
U don't need crit weapons on Jinhsi at all to get high value....just Lustrous Razor and 60/200 crit is enuf for her to do over 200k. With a crit weapon, she can do over 280k easily and with Zhezhi...sky is basically the limit
@@adityaneer Especially Jinhsi needs an Crit weapon more than any other character since she deals most of her damage in one single hit. And the hole argument still stands that Camellya is a way better DPS for new players, low investment players and casuals since you basically build two DPS at once. You simply can swap her gear over to Rover and have a second team almost ready.
@@dharshanv4047 That’s not even my argument 😂. I was complaining that he mention she needs more investment for team mates but didn’t sad anything about that gearing her with a weapon and echos also needs a lot of investment because there is currently no body to share an spectro dps echo set with and all characters she can share a weapon with are less common.
Nuke damage, especially backloaded, can run in to issues with "overkilling" - or wasting DPS on empty health bars. its not an issue in a beefy single target boss, but can be an issue with multi-wave content. Haven't really seen that issue with Jinhsi imo, but its something to consider moving forward. (A more extreme case being Eula, queen of single DPScreenshots at the time, but now not even in the conversation).
Both are great, Camellya needs more hands, both get clapped by Scar. I'm happy having them both and find Camellya gameplay to be more entertaining. Jinhsi rotations sacrifice variety for consistency.
I think if you dont have both, or aspire to have both, you're doing it wrong, lol. Yes, they might be competing for tops spot damage wise, but they are different elements and different styles, and they fit on different teams. IMO they compliment each other perfectly on ctntent that requires 2 or more teams.
Everyone start capping with camellya , like we dont know shit about team building and rotation with both jinhsi and camellya. Ofc u do more dmg if ur camellya/her team is more invested than ur Jinhsi
My cammellya does 200k dmg with her forte and she isnt even fully built echoes. I put some random garbage 4 and 1 cost. with the full set she will do 250k. Her spinjitsu will also do close to that
I put Jinshi + Camellya together to use Unison on Camellya so I can do the Ephemeral after intro, then basic attack to build up concerto again to get Perennial (S6) which is another second Ephemeral, cleared Tempest Mephis VI in 27 seconds.
I have both I prefer Jinhsi. Camellya is too squishy during her spin plus you can dodge cancel her nuke which is annoying plus without s1 you can get hit and interrupted out of it. Grapple Jiinhsi is broken I managed to do that no hit tower trophy with her. Jiinhsi's downside is her best support is zhezhi but you can cope with Yuanwu or Taoqi. Meanwhile Camellya's best support is Sanhua which everyone has. This is more for overdrive zone though, they both can clear normal tower easily. Anyway just roll for which one you like they are both strong as hell.
@@gwanetayla7683 Yeah hers was easiest tbh. I just meant in general for overdrive because getting hit in overdrive might instantly down you so her floating is broken
Atm I consider camellya better, yes jinshi can output higher dps but that's contingent on too many things like having all the enemies in place, getting the crit during the final nuke, having zhezhi to get easier stacks. Whereas camellya the only thing you need to worry about is don't get hit during spin to win. I don't have zhezhi and have to make do yuanwu and it makes a massive difference the speed of the rotation. In the recent middle toa the last one with those recent enemies it's super annoying to group the wolves together for jinshi to nuke cause they jump around like crazy but with camellya there isn't a problem and I even finished with 36secs to spare compared to jinshi, I'm like cutting it with a fine knife with 2-3secs even with the best possible grouping but I still have to reset multiple times cause sometimes the nuke just doesn't crit.
I have both at s1 with sig. but my favorite unit i always use is ZheZhi, i love her kit and animation. She is agile and has damage too. At the end of the day you use who you like but i agree Jinhsi > Camellya.
If Kuro decided to release a Spectro buffer, Jinhsi will take the top spot for DPS. However, Camellya will probably take over in 2.0 because one certain character...
have both at co and with their weapons and their current best teams jinhsi and maxed out on everything and f2p, in toa jinhsi wins by 11 seconds even when both tested in havoc tower and in middle tower one jinshi is faster by 50 seconds and 3rd tower jinshi wins by 42 seconds, its quite big difference in getting max stars when power creep hits camellia would be struggling to do toa max stars while jinhsi would be fine unless camellia gets her own support, but in solo contents camellia wins building stacks on jinhsi is time consuming and lower her damage a lot...
Im really confused between jhinshi and camellya,lost 50 50 at 20 pity,and still havent done any of the events,plus low exploration, currently at 24 pity,think i can mange her or wait for jhinsi?
i mean jihnsi is a magistrate, every future magistrates are gonna be a bit more op than other characters so they can still be relevant and for lore reasons
I like this war... Fell like neuvelite or arlecino moment... Whohever u like its ultimately matter.. I have jinshi and got camelya just.... I clearly say jinshi without sig not valuable.. Jinshi is premium with nuke to nuke and animation Camelya is just one nuke with versetile gameplay.
You can actually pair camellya for dual dps like changli or h.rover(?) more like a sub dps discarding the idea of support, since her full rotation is pretty long she cant fully utilize sanhua's buff which makes it to waste, in that logic you'll lose camellya's max dmg output but depending on the chatacter's outro efficiency it could and overall dmg capabilities it could make much more dps but sanhua's still the easiest so hands down, isnt she's pretty much flexible since she's a dps of her own?
Idk, my Jinhsi’s damage averages 450k, where my Camellya averages 700k damage per rotation 😅 I’ve managed to beat more bosses and get more dorito’s now that I have Camellya.
Something is wrong. The only way for Camellya to outdamage Jinhsi if both have perfect echos, weapon, stats and team, is for Camellya to be S6. Otherwise Jinhsi out dps's.
@@Smilehp7 Camellya dmg is spread out throughout her kit and everything is like a small nuke so if you add everything up with her full rotation believe it or not she can actually outdps Jinhsi and clear faster than her. I have them both with almost the same stats and Camy still cleared faster in pretty much every content
Seen a maxed out camellya do 1,200,000+ million consistently with eph. Also this video is misleading, If you wanna know who is better backed by mathematics instead of just words, look up "maygi" on youtube, camellya teams actually pull ahead DPS wise. Edit: also Ragnaroks whole point of jinhsi being able to hover unlike camellya "making her easier" makes no sense, makes me think you didn't even play camellya and pressed E lol
While its technically true she needs time to catch up to a maxed out Jinshi's nuke which she wouldn't get cause the boss would be dead already. She would prolly rival Jinshi in those co-op events where bosses have much more hp. But not if Jinshi does 3mill dmg which is very doable, but not by me lol, it would take me like 2 years to max a char to s6r5.
Camellya: Damage over time + Nuke
Jinshi: Nuke²
Pretty much sums it up actually 👍
@@NateWilliams..
She should be is archon of this game
@@prashantdalai7844 She is. All magistrates have a connection with sentinels, hence are of archon level or higher
Camellya nukes twice as well though and her resonance skill damage in budding mode is no joke
bro cooked the transition in 10:03 and thought we wouldn't notice
Well I appreciate it was noticed XD
They're kinda like exact opposites, spectro and havoc, nuke and dot, one consumes concerto for field time, one lets concerto not be consumed and wants to be off the field as fast as possible
Perfect description tbh.
Though another opposite I'd add is that Jinhsi wants a premium team preferably. Zhezhi or Ynlin, and Shorkeeper, though Verina works. Camy likes Sanhua, or 4 star, or even Danjin, and one could argue Verina is often better due to buff duration vs Keeper without S1.
Spectro and Havoc are like those Light and Dark elements lol
@@dukeofsorrow5722if your s0 shorekeeper buff runs out before your rotation is over, you are either staying too long or just too slow at swapping between characters
@@dukeofsorrow5722 both perform well with f2p teams its just that jinshi has the option of 5 star support,in the future 5 star support may come which will easily replace sanhua,sanhua is good but her buff expires before camiliya goes to budding mode and danjin takes little too much time onfield.
The invincible frames for jinshi save me all the time. Gotta pick her but i do love camellya
I love both, I have Jin on my second account, and C3 Camellya on my main, she hella slaps and is super fun to play. I would like to give up on team building and play both of them on the same team. W Nukes 🎉
Jinshi’s crown has shaked a little, but it hasn’t moved.
Camellya does around same dmg with the nukes and also does a lot of aa dmg. So Camellya takes the crown.
I prefer jinhsi in content. Her enhance skill and ult have i frames and its so nice and easy. Whereas ive been smacked out of camellyas spin and skill many times. Not to mention her energy saving team Jinhsi Mortefi Yuanwu where you use them as just a coord atk bot
How dare you even think that she can challenge our supreme magistrate
She can. Though jihnsi feels superior.
Ikr
No need to overreact, not even much of a difference
Jinshi is single handedly the most boring f2p cope of this game. She won't last a year. Camellya already equals her and her best support is only a 4 star.
@@touchedme1637 womp womp
Your videos and editing have improved so much in the past few months, great video as always
Really appreciate it man! :)
I hate when people compare Camellya to Jinhsi, I own them both.
S0 for Jinhsi, s6 for Camellya. People need to understand that Jinhsi carries this game at s0. Very user friendly
camellya will have her dedicated support on v2 so her team will be complete soon.
zhezhi is dedicated for v2 glacio dps so jinhsi still need a dedicated coordinated atk sub dps and healer with both different element to complete her team in short jinhsi is good for long term than camellya
Im ready to be Jinhsi's dedicated butler 😂
I got a S1 Jinshi and stacked Zhezhi (Who is getting her Signature and S1) once she has her rerun, so im kinda not sure to grab Camellya, although she looks cool and such!
Plus Jinshi does dmg with a dragon spirit, hard to top that for mea nyway as im a huge fan of asian noodle dragons 8D
Stick with the one you like the most, i clear all content with only 4 star until 2 days ago that i got camellya, it doesnt matter how much dmg a char can do if you don't like it, you will probably get bored ngl
IDC anything I have Camellya, Jhinshi & Changli in my team altogether
Gigabased. I have Camellya, Changli and Shorekeeper together 🗣️
@@RAJA_XYLO Lorewise, I suggest swap Shorekeeper with San Hua
i will pull both of them
Got them both
Goth both of them,
Can’t go wrong XD
got both and thier main weapons
Camellya+Jinshi quickswap FTW
I love DPS team
Loving camellya so far but jinhsi will always be my fav 👍🏼
For me, it's the opposite, but i give credit where it's due
I hope camellya will always be strong and viable in the game and not get powercrept by future patches because i want to keep playing her forever
If she is going to creep Jinhsi at s6 expect any other unit to do the same in the future when she is being compared
@@gwanetayla7683 she didnt make Jinshi irrelevant tho, Jinshi can still compete with her but yea probably its gonna happen after a while
Jinhsi has a dragon, just because of this she wins in my book.
Camellya is Camellya. Just because of this she wins in my book.😅
Camellya has my seed. And because of this she wins in MY book.
I'd go with the dragon chick with 700k damage. This is not even a question to me. -Plus the fact that she manipulates a broadsword as if she's casting down spells from the sky! Look closely how immaculate her animations are when she does doctor strange thing every time! PEAK!
Forgot to mention that Jinhsi is not only in team building but also in gearing premium and expensive.
Meanwhile Camellya is very free in every aspect.
Most plays have an free emerald from standard or the weapon selection box and also an eclipse echo set for Rover already. On the other hand there isn’t an other spectro dps so you likely have to farm an new set for Jinhsi and there’s no Crit weapon for her except the limited or battle pass one.
U don't need crit weapons on Jinhsi at all to get high value....just Lustrous Razor and 60/200 crit is enuf for her to do over 200k. With a crit weapon, she can do over 280k easily and with Zhezhi...sky is basically the limit
Yuanwu and Baizhi does the job.
@@adityaneer Especially Jinhsi needs an Crit weapon more than any other character since she deals most of her damage in one single hit. And the hole argument still stands that Camellya is a way better DPS for new players, low investment players and casuals since you basically build two DPS at once. You simply can swap her gear over to Rover and have a second team almost ready.
@@dharshanv4047 That’s not even my argument 😂. I was complaining that he mention she needs more investment for team mates but didn’t sad anything about that gearing her with a weapon and echos also needs a lot of investment because there is currently no body to share an spectro dps echo set with and all characters she can share a weapon with are less common.
Great points 👌
Nuke damage, especially backloaded, can run in to issues with "overkilling" - or wasting DPS on empty health bars. its not an issue in a beefy single target boss, but can be an issue with multi-wave content. Haven't really seen that issue with Jinhsi imo, but its something to consider moving forward. (A more extreme case being Eula, queen of single DPScreenshots at the time, but now not even in the conversation).
Both are great, Camellya needs more hands, both get clapped by Scar. I'm happy having them both and find Camellya gameplay to be more entertaining. Jinhsi rotations sacrifice variety for consistency.
Lol skill issue if you still getting clapped by Scar
It's rough that Camellya needs more hands cause I'm tryin' ta play her with one.
Untouchable nuker versus glass cannon beyblade. It's a paradigm difference, I think.
I think if you dont have both, or aspire to have both, you're doing it wrong, lol. Yes, they might be competing for tops spot damage wise, but they are different elements and different styles, and they fit on different teams. IMO they compliment each other perfectly on ctntent that requires 2 or more teams.
As an owner of both i see this as an absolute win win
Jinhsi forever and ever until there is something else which i hope will be at least very stunning in functionality and animations abilities and DPS
Everyone start capping with camellya , like we dont know shit about team building and rotation with both jinhsi and camellya. Ofc u do more dmg if ur camellya/her team is more invested than ur Jinhsi
My cammellya does 200k dmg with her forte and she isnt even fully built echoes. I put some random garbage 4 and 1 cost. with the full set she will do 250k. Her spinjitsu will also do close to that
Camellya users are reckless booba damage, while Jinshi users are *elegant*
Jinhsi is peak wuthering
you don't need zhezhi, yuanwu is a great support for jinshi with how fast he gets her bar up with his e
His shit lmao stop coping it's about dmg dealt when jhinsi is off field😂 just say your broke boi stop coping
just wait till camellya gets an actually good 4 cost echo
I put Jinshi + Camellya together to use Unison on Camellya so I can do the Ephemeral after intro, then basic attack to build up concerto again to get Perennial (S6) which is another second Ephemeral, cleared Tempest Mephis VI in 27 seconds.
Jinshi is wife and camellya is fungirl
I have both I prefer Jinhsi. Camellya is too squishy during her spin plus you can dodge cancel her nuke which is annoying plus without s1 you can get hit and interrupted out of it. Grapple Jiinhsi is broken I managed to do that no hit tower trophy with her. Jiinhsi's downside is her best support is zhezhi but you can cope with Yuanwu or Taoqi. Meanwhile Camellya's best support is Sanhua which everyone has. This is more for overdrive zone though, they both can clear normal tower easily. Anyway just roll for which one you like they are both strong as hell.
Jinhsi can clear her side of over drive since there is only crownless and few mobs 1st floor (probably 4)
@@gwanetayla7683 Yeah hers was easiest tbh. I just meant in general for overdrive because getting hit in overdrive might instantly down you so her floating is broken
Atm I consider camellya better, yes jinshi can output higher dps but that's contingent on too many things like having all the enemies in place, getting the crit during the final nuke, having zhezhi to get easier stacks. Whereas camellya the only thing you need to worry about is don't get hit during spin to win.
I don't have zhezhi and have to make do yuanwu and it makes a massive difference the speed of the rotation. In the recent middle toa the last one with those recent enemies it's super annoying to group the wolves together for jinshi to nuke cause they jump around like crazy but with camellya there isn't a problem and I even finished with 36secs to spare compared to jinshi, I'm like cutting it with a fine knife with 2-3secs even with the best possible grouping but I still have to reset multiple times cause sometimes the nuke just doesn't crit.
I have both at s1 with sig. but my favorite unit i always use is ZheZhi, i love her kit and animation. She is agile and has damage too. At the end of the day you use who you like but i agree Jinhsi > Camellya.
ya its Jinshi
If Kuro decided to release a Spectro buffer, Jinhsi will take the top spot for DPS. However, Camellya will probably take over in 2.0 because one certain character...
so s4 verina? or did u mean subdps/hybrid
what character is that
Jinshi may technically still be queen of DPS but Camellya is queen of DP.
Take it from me - I've seen pictures and videos as proof.
I need to see that proof
OOOOORRR you already got the OP team for your queen and just nuke everything all day all night long
have both at co and with their weapons and their current best teams jinhsi and maxed out on everything and f2p, in toa jinhsi wins by 11 seconds even when both tested in havoc tower and in middle tower one jinshi is faster by 50 seconds and 3rd tower jinshi wins by 42 seconds, its quite big difference in getting max stars when power creep hits camellia would be struggling to do toa max stars while jinhsi would be fine unless camellia gets her own support, but in solo contents camellia wins building stacks on jinhsi is time consuming and lower her damage a lot...
Kuro loves flat screen ponytale hair✅ nuke dmg
Kuro hates mountains straight hair🚫 moderate dmg
Im really confused between jhinshi and camellya,lost 50 50 at 20 pity,and still havent done any of the events,plus low exploration, currently at 24 pity,think i can mange her or wait for jhinsi?
I prefer the one chosen by Jue however Camellya is a close 2nd
i mean jihnsi is a magistrate, every future magistrates are gonna be a bit more op than other characters so they can still be relevant and for lore reasons
I like this war... Fell like neuvelite or arlecino moment...
Whohever u like its ultimately matter.. I have jinshi and got camelya just.... I clearly say jinshi without sig not valuable..
Jinshi is premium with nuke to nuke and animation
Camelya is just one nuke with versetile gameplay.
You can actually pair camellya for dual dps like changli or h.rover(?) more like a sub dps discarding the idea of support, since her full rotation is pretty long she cant fully utilize sanhua's buff which makes it to waste, in that logic you'll lose camellya's max dmg output but depending on the chatacter's outro efficiency it could and overall dmg capabilities it could make much more dps but sanhua's still the easiest so hands down, isnt she's pretty much flexible since she's a dps of her own?
btw white mode camellya does more damage when fighting 1 enemy (like bosses) red mod for groups of enemies
by 1.2% when playing optimally...
@@camelnotllama dont forget that white mode follows enemies there is that too
i am going for both (i am a F2P player)
I got question im using sk and S0 changli with camellya i got sanhua s1 so im nit sure if it wirth it to use her shpuld i do it?
I hate camellya interruption.She lost DPS bcz of that. For jhinshi most of enemy cant even touch her lol.
yeah, jinsi is perfectly fits for noobs
@ImbibitorLunae-b5h you should better work on your child like mindset than becoming pro in a game.
Camellya is just more fun by far, so she win
True
As someone who does own her , shes not.😂
@@ChangeOfHearts39skill issue
@@ChangeOfHearts39i feel you brother
In some situations like the new event, it's designed for hear 😅 my Jinshi doesn't work
nuke vs dps 😑
Jinhsi by a lot.
Got her weapon early but lost the 50/50 rip
Jiyan 🗿
Jinhsi Experience is better. Just introduce her in intro she will do the job
Red pill or Blue pill
Idk, my Jinhsi’s damage averages 450k, where my Camellya averages 700k damage per rotation 😅 I’ve managed to beat more bosses and get more dorito’s now that I have Camellya.
Same
Do you have some Camellya sequence nodes?
Something is wrong. The only way for Camellya to outdamage Jinhsi if both have perfect echos, weapon, stats and team, is for Camellya to be S6. Otherwise Jinhsi out dps's.
@@Smilehp7S2*
@@Smilehp7 Camellya dmg is spread out throughout her kit and everything is like a small nuke so if you add everything up with her full rotation believe it or not she can actually outdps Jinhsi and clear faster than her. I have them both with almost the same stats and Camy still cleared faster in pretty much every content
I regret pulling for Camellya but not Jinhsi ! :(
My camelia is 62/300
Slightly more crit rate and you’re gold :)
@Ragnarok-7 agreed
Seen a maxed out camellya do 1,200,000+ million consistently with eph. Also this video is misleading, If you wanna know who is better backed by mathematics instead of just words, look up "maygi" on youtube, camellya teams actually pull ahead DPS wise. Edit: also Ragnaroks whole point of jinhsi being able to hover unlike camellya "making her easier" makes no sense, makes me think you didn't even play camellya and pressed E lol
While its technically true she needs time to catch up to a maxed out Jinshi's nuke which she wouldn't get cause the boss would be dead already. She would prolly rival Jinshi in those co-op events where bosses have much more hp. But not if Jinshi does 3mill dmg which is very doable, but not by me lol, it would take me like 2 years to max a char to s6r5.
Coping😂
@@MarkNavarro-c8c Yes you are 🤡
@@zackerymendoza3411 nerdy boi talking😂
@@MarkNavarro-c8c Calm down little kitten, keep meowing in youtube comment sections. Weak ahhh.
Theyre both F tier massive skips
More Aoe vs More nuke