Camellya Or Jinhsi?! Who Is The True Queen Of DPS?! | Wuthering Waves

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  • @yenahh6954
    @yenahh6954 6 днів тому +87

    Camellya: Damage over time + Nuke
    Jinshi: Nuke²

    • @NateWilliams..
      @NateWilliams.. 6 днів тому +1

      Pretty much sums it up actually 👍

    • @harukimichaelis6981
      @harukimichaelis6981 6 днів тому

      @@NateWilliams..

    • @prashantdalai7844
      @prashantdalai7844 5 днів тому +1

      She should be is archon of this game

    • @scarletHerbst
      @scarletHerbst 4 дні тому

      @@prashantdalai7844 She is. All magistrates have a connection with sentinels, hence are of archon level or higher

    • @johnnicolas5328
      @johnnicolas5328 4 дні тому

      Camellya nukes twice as well though and her resonance skill damage in budding mode is no joke

  • @brayli_5779
    @brayli_5779 6 днів тому +45

    bro cooked the transition in 10:03 and thought we wouldn't notice

    • @Ragnarok-7
      @Ragnarok-7  6 днів тому +1

      Well I appreciate it was noticed XD

  • @whatamidoinghere4216
    @whatamidoinghere4216 6 днів тому +48

    They're kinda like exact opposites, spectro and havoc, nuke and dot, one consumes concerto for field time, one lets concerto not be consumed and wants to be off the field as fast as possible

    • @dukeofsorrow5722
      @dukeofsorrow5722 6 днів тому +1

      Perfect description tbh.

    • @dukeofsorrow5722
      @dukeofsorrow5722 6 днів тому +1

      Though another opposite I'd add is that Jinhsi wants a premium team preferably. Zhezhi or Ynlin, and Shorkeeper, though Verina works. Camy likes Sanhua, or 4 star, or even Danjin, and one could argue Verina is often better due to buff duration vs Keeper without S1.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому

      Spectro and Havoc are like those Light and Dark elements lol

    • @DiamondCityLights
      @DiamondCityLights 6 днів тому

      @@dukeofsorrow5722if your s0 shorekeeper buff runs out before your rotation is over, you are either staying too long or just too slow at swapping between characters

    • @kiss-shotacerola-orionhear8532
      @kiss-shotacerola-orionhear8532 5 днів тому +1

      ​​@@dukeofsorrow5722 both perform well with f2p teams its just that jinshi has the option of 5 star support,in the future 5 star support may come which will easily replace sanhua,sanhua is good but her buff expires before camiliya goes to budding mode and danjin takes little too much time onfield.

  • @bi7630
    @bi7630 6 днів тому +17

    The invincible frames for jinshi save me all the time. Gotta pick her but i do love camellya

    • @midnightnine
      @midnightnine 4 дні тому

      I love both, I have Jin on my second account, and C3 Camellya on my main, she hella slaps and is super fun to play. I would like to give up on team building and play both of them on the same team. W Nukes 🎉

  • @Armillaria
    @Armillaria 6 днів тому +12

    Jinshi’s crown has shaked a little, but it hasn’t moved.

    • @kaloyanivanov885
      @kaloyanivanov885 4 дні тому

      Camellya does around same dmg with the nukes and also does a lot of aa dmg. So Camellya takes the crown.

  • @andychua2766
    @andychua2766 6 днів тому +7

    I prefer jinhsi in content. Her enhance skill and ult have i frames and its so nice and easy. Whereas ive been smacked out of camellyas spin and skill many times. Not to mention her energy saving team Jinhsi Mortefi Yuanwu where you use them as just a coord atk bot

  • @Cryptic_Chai
    @Cryptic_Chai 6 днів тому +106

    How dare you even think that she can challenge our supreme magistrate

    • @prashantKumar-te9ce
      @prashantKumar-te9ce 6 днів тому +10

      She can. Though jihnsi feels superior.

    • @ajanilynx
      @ajanilynx 6 днів тому

      Ikr

    • @XhoowlAine
      @XhoowlAine 6 днів тому +7

      No need to overreact, not even much of a difference

    • @touchedme1637
      @touchedme1637 6 днів тому +11

      Jinshi is single handedly the most boring f2p cope of this game. She won't last a year. Camellya already equals her and her best support is only a 4 star.

    • @Cryptic_Chai
      @Cryptic_Chai 6 днів тому +16

      @@touchedme1637 womp womp

  • @Shadow_12314
    @Shadow_12314 6 днів тому +4

    Your videos and editing have improved so much in the past few months, great video as always

    • @Ragnarok-7
      @Ragnarok-7  6 днів тому

      Really appreciate it man! :)

  • @gwanetayla7683
    @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому +3

    I hate when people compare Camellya to Jinhsi, I own them both.
    S0 for Jinhsi, s6 for Camellya. People need to understand that Jinhsi carries this game at s0. Very user friendly

  • @KDB-32
    @KDB-32 6 днів тому +12

    camellya will have her dedicated support on v2 so her team will be complete soon.
    zhezhi is dedicated for v2 glacio dps so jinhsi still need a dedicated coordinated atk sub dps and healer with both different element to complete her team in short jinhsi is good for long term than camellya

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому +2

      Im ready to be Jinhsi's dedicated butler 😂

  • @Nimzach
    @Nimzach 6 днів тому +10

    I got a S1 Jinshi and stacked Zhezhi (Who is getting her Signature and S1) once she has her rerun, so im kinda not sure to grab Camellya, although she looks cool and such!

    • @Nimzach
      @Nimzach 6 днів тому +5

      Plus Jinshi does dmg with a dragon spirit, hard to top that for mea nyway as im a huge fan of asian noodle dragons 8D

    • @Jean03-q6h
      @Jean03-q6h 6 днів тому

      Stick with the one you like the most, i clear all content with only 4 star until 2 days ago that i got camellya, it doesnt matter how much dmg a char can do if you don't like it, you will probably get bored ngl

  • @RoverisLive
    @RoverisLive 6 днів тому +13

    IDC anything I have Camellya, Jhinshi & Changli in my team altogether

    • @RAJA_XYLO
      @RAJA_XYLO 6 днів тому

      Gigabased. I have Camellya, Changli and Shorekeeper together 🗣️

    • @rozencrisgaming
      @rozencrisgaming 5 днів тому

      ​@@RAJA_XYLO Lorewise, I suggest swap Shorekeeper with San Hua

  • @yoru2111
    @yoru2111 6 днів тому +18

    i will pull both of them

  • @zeromailss
    @zeromailss 6 днів тому +3

    Camellya+Jinshi quickswap FTW
    I love DPS team

  • @Dopeitsrico
    @Dopeitsrico 6 днів тому +3

    Loving camellya so far but jinhsi will always be my fav 👍🏼

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому

      For me, it's the opposite, but i give credit where it's due

  • @mr.melone520
    @mr.melone520 6 днів тому +3

    I hope camellya will always be strong and viable in the game and not get powercrept by future patches because i want to keep playing her forever

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому

      If she is going to creep Jinhsi at s6 expect any other unit to do the same in the future when she is being compared

    • @mr.melone520
      @mr.melone520 5 днів тому

      @@gwanetayla7683 she didnt make Jinshi irrelevant tho, Jinshi can still compete with her but yea probably its gonna happen after a while

  • @ivanoarmenta5008
    @ivanoarmenta5008 6 днів тому +4

    Jinhsi has a dragon, just because of this she wins in my book.

    • @lestercruz4073
      @lestercruz4073 5 днів тому

      Camellya is Camellya. Just because of this she wins in my book.😅

    • @kaloyanivanov885
      @kaloyanivanov885 4 дні тому

      Camellya has my seed. And because of this she wins in MY book.

  • @jeromeredido172
    @jeromeredido172 4 дні тому

    I'd go with the dragon chick with 700k damage. This is not even a question to me. -Plus the fact that she manipulates a broadsword as if she's casting down spells from the sky! Look closely how immaculate her animations are when she does doctor strange thing every time! PEAK!

  • @darkangel999
    @darkangel999 6 днів тому +14

    Forgot to mention that Jinhsi is not only in team building but also in gearing premium and expensive.
    Meanwhile Camellya is very free in every aspect.
    Most plays have an free emerald from standard or the weapon selection box and also an eclipse echo set for Rover already. On the other hand there isn’t an other spectro dps so you likely have to farm an new set for Jinhsi and there’s no Crit weapon for her except the limited or battle pass one.

    • @adityaneer
      @adityaneer 6 днів тому +4

      U don't need crit weapons on Jinhsi at all to get high value....just Lustrous Razor and 60/200 crit is enuf for her to do over 200k. With a crit weapon, she can do over 280k easily and with Zhezhi...sky is basically the limit

    • @dharshanv4047
      @dharshanv4047 6 днів тому +1

      Yuanwu and Baizhi does the job.

    • @darkangel999
      @darkangel999 6 днів тому +1

      @@adityaneer Especially Jinhsi needs an Crit weapon more than any other character since she deals most of her damage in one single hit. And the hole argument still stands that Camellya is a way better DPS for new players, low investment players and casuals since you basically build two DPS at once. You simply can swap her gear over to Rover and have a second team almost ready.

    • @darkangel999
      @darkangel999 6 днів тому

      @@dharshanv4047 That’s not even my argument 😂. I was complaining that he mention she needs more investment for team mates but didn’t sad anything about that gearing her with a weapon and echos also needs a lot of investment because there is currently no body to share an spectro dps echo set with and all characters she can share a weapon with are less common.

    • @Ragnarok-7
      @Ragnarok-7  6 днів тому

      Great points 👌

  • @hunterlavish
    @hunterlavish 6 днів тому +1

    Nuke damage, especially backloaded, can run in to issues with "overkilling" - or wasting DPS on empty health bars. its not an issue in a beefy single target boss, but can be an issue with multi-wave content. Haven't really seen that issue with Jinhsi imo, but its something to consider moving forward. (A more extreme case being Eula, queen of single DPScreenshots at the time, but now not even in the conversation).

  • @Draighean
    @Draighean 6 днів тому +1

    Both are great, Camellya needs more hands, both get clapped by Scar. I'm happy having them both and find Camellya gameplay to be more entertaining. Jinhsi rotations sacrifice variety for consistency.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому

      Lol skill issue if you still getting clapped by Scar

    • @Squashua2727
      @Squashua2727 4 дні тому

      It's rough that Camellya needs more hands cause I'm tryin' ta play her with one.

  • @miruneverdies
    @miruneverdies 6 днів тому +1

    Untouchable nuker versus glass cannon beyblade. It's a paradigm difference, I think.

  • @dukeofsorrow5722
    @dukeofsorrow5722 6 днів тому +1

    I think if you dont have both, or aspire to have both, you're doing it wrong, lol. Yes, they might be competing for tops spot damage wise, but they are different elements and different styles, and they fit on different teams. IMO they compliment each other perfectly on ctntent that requires 2 or more teams.

  • @ExTnGusDXrms
    @ExTnGusDXrms 6 днів тому +1

    As an owner of both i see this as an absolute win win

  • @shadowthehedgehog1824
    @shadowthehedgehog1824 6 днів тому +1

    Jinhsi forever and ever until there is something else which i hope will be at least very stunning in functionality and animations abilities and DPS

  • @Firmansyah-sm6dh
    @Firmansyah-sm6dh 6 днів тому +1

    Everyone start capping with camellya , like we dont know shit about team building and rotation with both jinhsi and camellya. Ofc u do more dmg if ur camellya/her team is more invested than ur Jinhsi

    • @kaloyanivanov885
      @kaloyanivanov885 4 дні тому

      My cammellya does 200k dmg with her forte and she isnt even fully built echoes. I put some random garbage 4 and 1 cost. with the full set she will do 250k. Her spinjitsu will also do close to that

  • @GabrielSantos-el4ir
    @GabrielSantos-el4ir 4 дні тому

    Camellya users are reckless booba damage, while Jinshi users are *elegant*

  • @DictionaryMath5903
    @DictionaryMath5903 5 днів тому +1

    Jinhsi is peak wuthering

  • @Vailcs
    @Vailcs 6 днів тому +1

    you don't need zhezhi, yuanwu is a great support for jinshi with how fast he gets her bar up with his e

    • @MarkNavarro-c8c
      @MarkNavarro-c8c 6 днів тому

      His shit lmao stop coping it's about dmg dealt when jhinsi is off field😂 just say your broke boi stop coping

  • @camelnotllama
    @camelnotllama 6 днів тому +1

    just wait till camellya gets an actually good 4 cost echo

  • @halacron1
    @halacron1 5 днів тому

    I put Jinshi + Camellya together to use Unison on Camellya so I can do the Ephemeral after intro, then basic attack to build up concerto again to get Perennial (S6) which is another second Ephemeral, cleared Tempest Mephis VI in 27 seconds.

  • @Ray-bx8rk
    @Ray-bx8rk 4 дні тому

    Jinshi is wife and camellya is fungirl

  • @B0b-k3r
    @B0b-k3r 6 днів тому +4

    I have both I prefer Jinhsi. Camellya is too squishy during her spin plus you can dodge cancel her nuke which is annoying plus without s1 you can get hit and interrupted out of it. Grapple Jiinhsi is broken I managed to do that no hit tower trophy with her. Jiinhsi's downside is her best support is zhezhi but you can cope with Yuanwu or Taoqi. Meanwhile Camellya's best support is Sanhua which everyone has. This is more for overdrive zone though, they both can clear normal tower easily. Anyway just roll for which one you like they are both strong as hell.

    • @gwanetayla7683
      @gwanetayla7683 6 днів тому

      Jinhsi can clear her side of over drive since there is only crownless and few mobs 1st floor (probably 4)

    • @B0b-k3r
      @B0b-k3r 6 днів тому

      @@gwanetayla7683 Yeah hers was easiest tbh. I just meant in general for overdrive because getting hit in overdrive might instantly down you so her floating is broken

  • @wihukeon
    @wihukeon 5 днів тому

    Atm I consider camellya better, yes jinshi can output higher dps but that's contingent on too many things like having all the enemies in place, getting the crit during the final nuke, having zhezhi to get easier stacks. Whereas camellya the only thing you need to worry about is don't get hit during spin to win.
    I don't have zhezhi and have to make do yuanwu and it makes a massive difference the speed of the rotation. In the recent middle toa the last one with those recent enemies it's super annoying to group the wolves together for jinshi to nuke cause they jump around like crazy but with camellya there isn't a problem and I even finished with 36secs to spare compared to jinshi, I'm like cutting it with a fine knife with 2-3secs even with the best possible grouping but I still have to reset multiple times cause sometimes the nuke just doesn't crit.

  • @DorkNamedHope
    @DorkNamedHope 5 днів тому

    I have both at s1 with sig. but my favorite unit i always use is ZheZhi, i love her kit and animation. She is agile and has damage too. At the end of the day you use who you like but i agree Jinhsi > Camellya.

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 6 днів тому +2

    ya its Jinshi

  • @beestek.94
    @beestek.94 6 днів тому +1

    If Kuro decided to release a Spectro buffer, Jinhsi will take the top spot for DPS. However, Camellya will probably take over in 2.0 because one certain character...

    • @ItsukiYoru
      @ItsukiYoru 6 днів тому

      so s4 verina? or did u mean subdps/hybrid

    • @kkodeko
      @kkodeko 5 днів тому +1

      what character is that

  • @Rieper47
    @Rieper47 5 днів тому

    Jinshi may technically still be queen of DPS but Camellya is queen of DP.
    Take it from me - I've seen pictures and videos as proof.

  • @swrcPATCH
    @swrcPATCH 4 дні тому

    OOOOORRR you already got the OP team for your queen and just nuke everything all day all night long

  • @MusabKhantt
    @MusabKhantt 4 дні тому

    have both at co and with their weapons and their current best teams jinhsi and maxed out on everything and f2p, in toa jinhsi wins by 11 seconds even when both tested in havoc tower and in middle tower one jinshi is faster by 50 seconds and 3rd tower jinshi wins by 42 seconds, its quite big difference in getting max stars when power creep hits camellia would be struggling to do toa max stars while jinhsi would be fine unless camellia gets her own support, but in solo contents camellia wins building stacks on jinhsi is time consuming and lower her damage a lot...

  • @raptorgaming7242
    @raptorgaming7242 6 днів тому

    Kuro loves flat screen ponytale hair✅ nuke dmg
    Kuro hates mountains straight hair🚫 moderate dmg

  • @Hanakosanunderbed
    @Hanakosanunderbed 3 дні тому

    Im really confused between jhinshi and camellya,lost 50 50 at 20 pity,and still havent done any of the events,plus low exploration, currently at 24 pity,think i can mange her or wait for jhinsi?

  • @flycentipede1689
    @flycentipede1689 4 дні тому

    I prefer the one chosen by Jue however Camellya is a close 2nd

  • @kkodeko
    @kkodeko 5 днів тому

    i mean jihnsi is a magistrate, every future magistrates are gonna be a bit more op than other characters so they can still be relevant and for lore reasons

  • @apurbamukherjee6659
    @apurbamukherjee6659 5 днів тому

    I like this war... Fell like neuvelite or arlecino moment...
    Whohever u like its ultimately matter.. I have jinshi and got camelya just.... I clearly say jinshi without sig not valuable..
    Jinshi is premium with nuke to nuke and animation
    Camelya is just one nuke with versetile gameplay.

  • @rishuraspencer1262
    @rishuraspencer1262 6 днів тому

    You can actually pair camellya for dual dps like changli or h.rover(?) more like a sub dps discarding the idea of support, since her full rotation is pretty long she cant fully utilize sanhua's buff which makes it to waste, in that logic you'll lose camellya's max dmg output but depending on the chatacter's outro efficiency it could and overall dmg capabilities it could make much more dps but sanhua's still the easiest so hands down, isnt she's pretty much flexible since she's a dps of her own?

  • @miguelribeiro9396
    @miguelribeiro9396 6 днів тому

    btw white mode camellya does more damage when fighting 1 enemy (like bosses) red mod for groups of enemies

    • @camelnotllama
      @camelnotllama 6 днів тому

      by 1.2% when playing optimally...

    • @miguelribeiro9396
      @miguelribeiro9396 5 днів тому

      @@camelnotllama dont forget that white mode follows enemies there is that too

  • @ASSTYALILLIUM
    @ASSTYALILLIUM 5 днів тому

    i am going for both (i am a F2P player)

  • @varhogivara
    @varhogivara 6 днів тому

    I got question im using sk and S0 changli with camellya i got sanhua s1 so im nit sure if it wirth it to use her shpuld i do it?

  • @Kumikinang
    @Kumikinang 6 днів тому +1

    I hate camellya interruption.She lost DPS bcz of that. For jhinshi most of enemy cant even touch her lol.

    • @ImbibitorLunae-b5h
      @ImbibitorLunae-b5h 5 днів тому

      yeah, jinsi is perfectly fits for noobs

    • @Kumikinang
      @Kumikinang 5 днів тому

      @ImbibitorLunae-b5h you should better work on your child like mindset than becoming pro in a game.

  • @Dhampher
    @Dhampher 6 днів тому +12

    Camellya is just more fun by far, so she win

    • @drifter6252
      @drifter6252 6 днів тому +1

      True

    • @ChangeOfHearts39
      @ChangeOfHearts39 6 днів тому +7

      As someone who does own her , shes not.😂

    • @rishuraspencer1262
      @rishuraspencer1262 6 днів тому

      ​@@ChangeOfHearts39skill issue

    • @thorsendh6948
      @thorsendh6948 6 днів тому +4

      @@ChangeOfHearts39i feel you brother

    • @Lewis-Di
      @Lewis-Di 6 днів тому

      In some situations like the new event, it's designed for hear 😅 my Jinshi doesn't work

  • @WillofDion
    @WillofDion 6 днів тому +2

    nuke vs dps 😑

  • @Container55
    @Container55 5 днів тому

    Jinhsi by a lot.

  • @AMADORMARK
    @AMADORMARK 3 дні тому

    Got her weapon early but lost the 50/50 rip

  • @alpha_editz3473
    @alpha_editz3473 5 днів тому

    Jiyan 🗿

  • @dharshanv4047
    @dharshanv4047 6 днів тому +3

    Jinhsi Experience is better. Just introduce her in intro she will do the job

  • @Emptiness771
    @Emptiness771 4 дні тому

    Red pill or Blue pill

  • @tyrell6357
    @tyrell6357 6 днів тому +4

    Idk, my Jinhsi’s damage averages 450k, where my Camellya averages 700k damage per rotation 😅 I’ve managed to beat more bosses and get more dorito’s now that I have Camellya.

    • @thorsendh6948
      @thorsendh6948 6 днів тому

      Same

    • @Lewis-Di
      @Lewis-Di 6 днів тому

      Do you have some Camellya sequence nodes?

    • @Smilehp7
      @Smilehp7 6 днів тому +8

      Something is wrong. The only way for Camellya to outdamage Jinhsi if both have perfect echos, weapon, stats and team, is for Camellya to be S6. Otherwise Jinhsi out dps's.

    • @7minut3s
      @7minut3s 6 днів тому +1

      @@Smilehp7S2*

    • @RAJA_XYLO
      @RAJA_XYLO 6 днів тому +2

      ​​@@Smilehp7 Camellya dmg is spread out throughout her kit and everything is like a small nuke so if you add everything up with her full rotation believe it or not she can actually outdps Jinhsi and clear faster than her. I have them both with almost the same stats and Camy still cleared faster in pretty much every content

  • @DarciaSidTV
    @DarciaSidTV 6 днів тому +2

    I regret pulling for Camellya but not Jinhsi ! :(

  • @drifter6252
    @drifter6252 6 днів тому

    My camelia is 62/300

    • @Ragnarok-7
      @Ragnarok-7  6 днів тому

      Slightly more crit rate and you’re gold :)

    • @drifter6252
      @drifter6252 6 днів тому

      @Ragnarok-7 agreed

  • @zackerymendoza3411
    @zackerymendoza3411 6 днів тому +1

    Seen a maxed out camellya do 1,200,000+ million consistently with eph. Also this video is misleading, If you wanna know who is better backed by mathematics instead of just words, look up "maygi" on youtube, camellya teams actually pull ahead DPS wise. Edit: also Ragnaroks whole point of jinhsi being able to hover unlike camellya "making her easier" makes no sense, makes me think you didn't even play camellya and pressed E lol

    • @Cenzurat
      @Cenzurat 6 днів тому

      While its technically true she needs time to catch up to a maxed out Jinshi's nuke which she wouldn't get cause the boss would be dead already. She would prolly rival Jinshi in those co-op events where bosses have much more hp. But not if Jinshi does 3mill dmg which is very doable, but not by me lol, it would take me like 2 years to max a char to s6r5.

    • @MarkNavarro-c8c
      @MarkNavarro-c8c 6 днів тому +2

      Coping😂

    • @zackerymendoza3411
      @zackerymendoza3411 6 днів тому

      @@MarkNavarro-c8c Yes you are 🤡

    • @MarkNavarro-c8c
      @MarkNavarro-c8c 6 днів тому

      @@zackerymendoza3411 nerdy boi talking😂

    • @zackerymendoza3411
      @zackerymendoza3411 6 днів тому

      @@MarkNavarro-c8c Calm down little kitten, keep meowing in youtube comment sections. Weak ahhh.

  • @alexanderluna4598
    @alexanderluna4598 6 днів тому

    Theyre both F tier massive skips

  • @Cocxy69
    @Cocxy69 6 днів тому +3

    More Aoe vs More nuke