My top 8 Colors 2022 - My Favourite Watercolors
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2022
- We did a top 8 favourite colors back in 2018 so I thought it would be fun to do another one for 2022, to see how my taste in watercolor paints have changed in four years!
Check out the 2018 Top 8 video: • Top 8 Watercolor Colors
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+ Boku-undou Ezumi Mei Set
+ Quinacridone Rose (Daniel Smith)
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+ Hooker’s Green (QoR)
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+ Transparent Red Oxide (Daniel Smith)
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+ Indigo (Holbein)
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+ Hooker’s Green (Holbein)
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+ Nickel Azo Yellow (Daniel Smith)
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+ Phthalo Blue Yellow Shade (Holbein)
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+ Perm Yellow Deep (Holbein)
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I love Winsor Newton cerulean. I paint a lot of landscapes and I like the granulation in my skies. Also, I'd like to hear more of your views on the state of affairs at Daniel Smith.
What’s happening at DS?
I’ve sent several emails to Daniel Smith, but I have never received a response. This stands in stark contrast to the responsiveness of European and Asian brands.
@@staffanscherloff4596 interesting. Isn’t Daniel Smith an American company? Typically American companies are huge on customer service.
I especially enjoy your final comments assessing your personal change and the features of the new lineup as a whole. Keep it coming!
Thank you for sharing your updated palette. I do like the warmer yellow with the deeper greens and blues. It is always a pleasure to hear your voice and your views on colors and brands. I used to only use Daniel Smith, but after the controversy, I have invested in Schmincke, Roman Szmal, A. Gallo, and recently Isaro. These brands vary in price, but all are devoted to quality and my experience with their customer service has been excellent. The Daniel Smith thing with John Cooley was disheartening, like seeing your favorite teacher bully a child. The arrogance and condescension to professional artists (their customers, by the way)and scientists was so off-putting, I have a hard time using their paints. The upside is that there are so many wonderful options for creating beautiful art that I don’t miss those paints much. Your color/ brand comparison videos have been really helpful for exploring new and broader horizons. Thank you!
What happened with Daniel Smith? I have been living under a rock, I was very shocked to hear that Oto is moving away from them
Thank you for this informative peek into your current flow of colours, Dr.Oto Kano. I look forward to your next review, perhaps 3 years ahead....and for all the wonderful presentations you will make between now and then.
I really enjoy seeing artists evolve and palettes change as they do - sometimes I think it’s a life stage / seasonal thing. Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts it’s always food for thought and inspiring - thank you!
Nice balance from the previous year. I appreciate the comparison. I love the Mei set and have the darker set! The versatility of the set brings me joy. I can't wait to get the new set. Much love.
It is always interesting to me to see artists' updates. I really haven't given any thought to my own faves. perhaps I'll post an update here. I love your videos, Oto!
I think your updated palette is very interesting, and the reasons behind the changes made the video totally worth watching. OK, so I think all your videos are interesting and useful! :) I think I will be getting the Boku-undou Ezumi Mei Set.
It's interesting to see how your palette has become cooler and dominated by blues and greens. Thanks for this video :)
I can’t live without Daniel Smith Shadow Violet!
Quin. Rose is a favorite of mine as well. Love your picks.
Definitely love the Quin Rose, Phthalo Turquoise and Hooker's Green, they're all so pretty, wowie
I've been really obsessed with indigo and have been collecting it across all of the brands. My favorite hues are Holbein and Turner, despite also really enjoying Schmincke and Blick's versions with the genuine indigo pigment. Holbein is also just what I expect. And my favorite grey is also a mix with PV19 and a Sap or Hooker's Green.
Nice to see how much your tastes have changed over time. Transparent Red Oxide and a deeper Yellow (Hansa Yellow Deep) have made into my staples as well. I have also been experimenting with the darker versions of the Japanesque set recently, really like how different they feel from regular watercolors. These lighter colors look lovely!
I myself would love to see more your Art Dr. Oto!!!
I often use Transparent Red Oxide instead of Burnt Sienna. It is quickly becoming a work horse on my palette.
Your vibrant paintings are quite lovely 😊❤
I've never really appreciated "color theory" until watching your videos. The turning point for me, was when you explained that different palettes are created for a reason. So I got out my barely-used Prismacolor watercolor pencils & went "color-swatch-crazy" ...lol.
I was shocked at how many different colors could be achieved with 12 colors. Finally, with your help, I've "seen the light" regarding color theory...lol. Thank You!!
I used to consider color theory a "chore", ...but it has quickly become "addicting" (in a good way) & I'm doing daily color swatches. I'm now thoroughly loving "color theory".
I want to express my appreciation for you and your inspiring and educational videos!!
I have a love affair with ultramarine blue. 🔵 It simply hypnotizes me. Especially in it's mass tone. It's the hue and saturation that attracts me so much. It plays so nicely with other colors. And the beautiful granulation in lighter washes and when mixed with other colors is the cherry on top for me.
Quin rose is my fave too! It has been perfect for me, especially in mixes. But I’m using the Mijello Mission Gold single pigment Quinacridone Permanent Rose.💖💓💗
Hello Oto - happy to hear when artists I admire are willing to speak out about Daniel Smith and their business practices!! Love the Boku Undo sets too!!!!!
I’ve been looking into them to buy some colors but now I want to know what’s the deal with them.
@@amandalotr it has to do with the Primatek line. They claim to be all minerals…but a scientist did testing and found carbazole violet in the Amethyst Genuine. She found Phthalo Green in Amazonite Genuine. Several others as well…such as Purpurite but I cannot recall the exact details.
The issue is one of deception and price gouging. I don’t like that DS is taking advantage of consumers.
Love you little abstract paintings at the end. They are so adorable and I love that they come in square shape 😍😍😍 Could you share more on such paintings in future? Would love to see your process too if that's not too much to ask 😍😬🙏
Just switched to watercolour so rediscovered an old "Maimeru Blu" set 💙... im crazily in total love
With the Pure depth of the Colour mixes from the Blues &
VERY reminiscent for me of Hot European countries and Swa shades...not found anywhere else.
There's not a warm yellow though just a lemon yellow...
So I will save up to get their full palette box.
I ADORE Ultramarine like the lady above
To give me the Scottish skies- purples & violets from it.
I'm kinda just not there yet...as going to classes!!
In comparison my half pan Sennelier just doesn't have the same ability to whack a punch as my Maimeri does.
Thanks Dr Oto for Amasing videos. 🥰👍
It is very nice to see your paintings on your channel on the one hand, and on the other hand I love seeing other artists’ palettes that are very different from my own.
I am working on a series with a fixed palette: French ultramarine, cerulean (pb35), permanent alizarin (that I mixed on my own from pv19, pr179 and pr178), burnt umber, benzimidazolone yellow (py154), and viridian. I love what this palette can do, but I am looking forward to start a new series with other color choices, because I am tired of mixing the same grays of the same four ingredients.
Wow!..... Being brand spanking new to your channel (referred by Steve Mitchell of MOW) , I have learned sooooooo much from you and your followers these past several days! Interestingly enough, I just happened to have been on the hunt this evening for the "best" indigo to add to my ever increasing pallet and......of course, who did I seek out to have the most reliant opinion? Yep!! And, sure enough, this particular video is the first one I was so fortunate to happen upon. I guess this little old lady can still have her very small wishes come true. Thank you for all of the monumental work that you have done and have generously chosen to share with so many very, very grateful viewers. Your videos are just a joy to watch as your passion for what you do just exudes through my little tablet. You are truly a rare gem in a world where we would be truly blessed to have more gems such as yourself. From your newest 'great granny subscriber.'. 👩🦳🙏
amazingly enough, my current faves are four from your 2018 list. my number one fave is holbein's marine blue though 😆
I just bought the Boku Undo MEI set and a few Holbein tubes a few days ago while holidaying in Okinawa and now I am at the Okinawa airport watching this and am so thrilled to hear you like the Boku Undo MEI set which I had picked up quite randomly 😄 Can't wait to try it once I reach home.
Really hope you enjoy the set, I love it!
It’s cool to see how our preferences change over time, and this video highlights that pretty well. If I had to make my list of favorite/most useful colors, it’d probably be something like this (only the top 2 are properly ordered):
Potters Pink
Quinacridone Red Light
Ultramarine Blue
Hansa Yellow Light
Phthalo Turquoise (I do also like Cobalt Teal for cyans).
Anthraquinone/Indanthrone Blue
Burnt Umber
Dioxazine Purple
I don’t use these colors often, but I love the hues of my other pinks/magentas (gamma PV19, PV42, PR122, and PV14).
It seems we have similar tastes in colors. Lovely selection
I love Rembrandt blue, indanthrene blue and scarlet lake
Well, I’ve only been at this for a year but so far my favorite colors to work with are: Hansa Yellow Medium, Cerulean Blue, Indian Yellow, Indian Red, Green Gold, Perylene Violet, Indigo, and Phthalo Blue red shade. I don’t have a preference in brand yet. I’ve only tried Windsor and Newton, and Daniel Smith. I’ve noticed I don’t much use bright reds or pinks at all.
It's really tough to narrow down my all time favorite watercolors... but I've been using Naples Yellow Deep/Potter's Pink/Manganese Violet/Amethyst to light golden hour scenes and I don't know what I'd do without them! I think my color tastes have been maturing over the past couple years too. I recently booted Phthalo Green Blue Shade off my palette in favor of M Graham's Viridian (still strong for Viridian, but softer than Phthalo for sure) and I'm liking it way more than I expected. Sennelier Venetian Red has also become a go to for portraits where I used to prefer brighter transparent colors.
My favorite color that I've taken off my studio palette is Sennelier's French Vermillion. It tints out from a strong warm red to a lovely peachy pink that's a touch cooler than PR255? But I just ran my lightfast tests and those tints are not holding up :( I just put QoR's Quin Red Light PR207 in my window to see how it holds up and it's quite promising. Imagine if Quin Coral was more orange! It's just lovely.
I know what you mean about trying to move away from Daniel Smith though! If any brand ever releases a tube form of Roman Szmal's new Quin Scarlet or even just offers PR175 I'm definitely switching out Deep Scarlet. I've also had a bunch of duds when it comes to binder split so I definitely want to move in a direction I can trust more!
I'm going on for waaaaaaay too long here, if I find some spare time maybe I'll do a palette tour video myself one of these days lol
I love naples yellow deep, i have sennelier and winsor version. I also like the mix of winsor and daniel smith potters pink 50/50 makes the nicest shade and consistency.
Hi Dr Oto, my 3 favorite colors this year are: Sennelier green-yellow, M Graham transparent red oxide, and MGraham hookers green ( thanks to you)! I’m searching for a favorite yellow, and will probably try the Holbein deep yellow you spoke of in this video. Don’t want cadmium. Thank you!
Happy to hear that your opinion on Daniel Smith has shifted and you don't focus on it anymore!
Back when I was getting into watercolour, I spent hours on doing research on different brands and I couldn't help but feel like many creators treated DS like the "default" brand. The best brand, the brand that everything else got compared to. I've always found that quite unfair as every reputable watercolour manufacturer has something good and unique to offer.
Please don't get me wrong or (God forbid) take it personally - I really appreciate your DS comparisons, they helped me a lot! But I definitely prefer the variety on your channel now :)
i think your palette actually got more *balanced* : ) more versatile. it's so cool to see something like this - a top colors based on the year. would LOVE to see more people share this, or see a yearly one.
Thanks so much for sharing some of your completed artwork. It was lovely to see. I love nickel azo yellow because of how it seems to transform from warm to cool as you thin it out and because of the cool way it interacts with other colors. This unpredictability is fun in abstract art but might be frustrating in portraits or botanical realism. Perylene green, perylene maroon and perylene violet all feel kind of magical to me. And my DaVinci phthalo green (pv7) is a workhorse that gets used in a lot of mixes.
Just adore the Perylene colours
Thanks for this. If I look at the colours that are quicker to go empty in my palette, these are Hansa Yellow, Quin Rose, burnt Sienna and Cobalt Blue. Not intentional list... just being factual. Your video got me thinking into developing a proper list. I like how intentional and conscious are about each choice, and I want to do that too. I really like your petite abstract paintings, they also show the intentionality in the choice of colours. Also, good for rethinking your stand in DS paints and company. I share your concerns and have stayed away from it -but I will use the few paints of them that I do have. Not using them is a waste, and I am not OK with that. Have a great week!
I'm really in love with Green Gold these days, especially PY129. Any brand, I like exploring them all. Maimeriblu has a very pretty one.
Didn't know about the Daniel Smith controversy until you mentioned it right now. Seemed to have somehow missed the Primatek drama last year. After looking at their response I completely understand why people aren't happy.
Personally stopped reading up on the Primatek issue. Because I feel yes, there are issue but also a smart consumer would have realized that you cannot have genuine stones for so little money. Mining is expensive. Not sure if other DS issues arose.
Steve Mitchell "Mind of Watercolor" suggested you, on his channel. I am thrilled with discovering you. You do all the testing/reviews that answer questions I didn't even knew I had. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I think I've seen Boku-undou Ezumi Mei Set used on "Kaiteki Art" (another channel I'm in love with).
Thank you so much for coming over from Steve’s channel. I am in debt to his kindness. I hope you find what you find interesting on this channel!
Me every time Oto unveils a new colour
"Oh that's so lovely I'll have to get that one" 🤦♀️
Magnifique 🤩
Hello! I just love watching your videos. You seem so devoted to your craft and and UA-cam channel. I can only speak for myself but I very much appreciate all of the time and energy you put forth. I have learned so much from you. Thank You, Thank You! Now I have a question: Where did you purchase the Boku -undou Ezumi set? It is not on Amazon nor Jackson's. I have the dark set already and would love to get my hands on the mei collection. Thanks again!
Great info as usual. Thanks! Yes, yes! I’m so in line with your 2022 choices, even though I don’t have them all or have them in the same brands! Quin Rose #1 yay! For all of us who love Opera pink so much but won’t risk the fugitive pigments, Quin Rose is the next best thing, I think. And this year, for me, is when I really began to appreciate the deep loveliness of Indigo. In paint, I only have it in WN gouache and a Derwent Inktense pan set color. I’ll have to add the Holbein indigo to my watercolors. I “feel ya” on the DS controversy, with their never coming out give a satisfactory answer to their customers. I still buy some of their paints, but I honestly think I might buy more if that “less than satisfactory” response to evidence of not selling what they represented as “real.” I have also begun to appreciate the range of beautiful orange colors. From a dot card, I came across “Aussie Red Gold” that outshines (so bright & vibrant) several different brands of Quin Gold that I have and has come to be one of my fave colors ahead of Quin Gold. Here’s the pigment info on Aussie Red Gold from the DS website:
Pigment: PY 83, PR 101, PV 19 | Series: 2
Lightfastness: I - Excellent
Transparency: Transparent
Staining: 2-Low Staining
Granulation: Non-Granulating
I find Aussie red gold is very staining for me
QoR _Ni Azo Yellow / DS_ van dyck brown/ DS_TR Oxide/ DS_perm brown...good range for Earth's and other mixes.I sometimes use a HOLB Jaune brillant no.1 for a white , also a DS R Sienna Lt in place of yellow ochre. Cheers
I totally feel you on the DS front. 💖 Besides, there are sooo many other brands! 😅
I have trouble picking a too 8 as I love to use all my colours depending on the individual painting/subject. Overall I’ll pick 8 for ‘today’
1) m.graham Terra Rosa
2) m. Graham anthraquinone blue
3) m.graham nickel quinacridone gold
4) m graham Naples yellow
5) Van Gogh quinacridone rose
6) Daniel smith Pthalo turquoise
7) Indian yellow
8) Daniel smith cobalt teal blue
And now I need to try a few paintings with this limited pallet for fun! Ok wrote it down on a new page in my sketchbook, should be fun!
I use so much DS Cobalt Teal! It is lovely for cool shadows!
I enjoy your videos very much. I have a mixed palette of brands also and am a fan of the quin rose from DS myself. After comparing many tubes I have found that DaVinci really makes great quality and excellent savings compared to some other brands. I use the Hookers green from DaVinci but like to temper it with MGraham’s sap green. I use perylene green from DaVinci and can achieve that dark green with mixing. Other than those greens I use Phalogreen and DaVinci has both shades. I love the warm yellows also and try to get the most lightfast and transparent. I also am a huge fan of the red iron oxide from DS and indigo from Holbein. Awesome picks! I too was disappointed with DS but still use 4 of their colors. Primarily I do not want to harm life in the water and in reading of some of the “gem” colors from their warning labels it steered me away from using those. Also I guess they found a way to not have the tube spit out as soon as it is opened. One other issue I noticed in comparison with other brands is the amount of shrinkage in filling whole pans. The thickness just isn’t the same. I have probably compared well over 200 whole pans. Anyways there are certainly a number of great brands out there.😊
My top eight 😄
1. Quinacridone Gold, DS
2. Kossoghol Blue, Creators Hand Co
3. Venice Purple, White Knights
4. Indian yellow, Davinci
5. Lamp black, DS
6. Blue Apatite Genuine, DS
7. Olive Green Deep, RS
8. Cascade Green, DS
My favorite green jadeite genuine,bummed to hear about DS.
took me a while to figure out what colors are my 8 favorites, this video popped back up on my playlist Scarlet Red PR254 A Gallo; Gold Ochre PY43 Da Vinci; French Ultramarine PB29 Roman Szmal; Cobalt Sea Blue PB28 Roman Szmal; Dark Ochre PY43 Roman Szmal; Hooker's Green, Roman Szmal; Potter's Pink PR233 Schmincke; Mars Black PBk11, Schmincke
Love the Quin Red (newer version) from qor. It’s very similar to the Quin Rose from DS.
Curious what you mean by newer version, interesting--has Qor changed the formula? Thanks!
@@everartokelli yes, already 1 or 2 years ago. But I still have a tube of the old one and I don’t like it as much. That’s why I specified.
Appreciate the heads up!!
Holbein colors are what I learned to paint with, so they will always hold a special place in my heart. Two of my very favorite colors of all-time are Holbein’s Mineral Violet (but I adore D.S. Rose of Ultramarine. The way that and Cascade Green split just give me goosebumps!) and their Sap Green. I have primarily all Daniel Smith pigments, due to their large number of single pigment colors, quality and their vibrancy, but I am curious why you are having issues with them as a company (quality aside). I am going to have to do some research into the issues you mentioned in this video. I love your colors , too btw. I hated seeing Quin coral leave your top 8, but sure get why Quin rose is your number 1!!! Thanks as always for another extremely well thought out video!
A number of their primatek colours fade badly.Other primatek are not the single pigments they are said to be.
interesting video, i'm surprised how many secondary and tertiary colors are on this list. hard to say about my favorites, for sure ultramarine blue is #1. for yellow i used to love Winsor & Newton's new gamboge, since the change, i go for anything with a similar hue, although they are very much specialty colors i have to have buff titanium and caput mortem, the former for birds and later for flowers-add it to all the greens and purples in plants.
After watching Anastasia Mikey’s “misty forest scene” vid I picked up a couple of the D Smith Primatek colors, the Sodalite genuine and the Green Apatite and Diopside genuine..super interesting colors..
Arg..proofread..Anastasia Mily…I’m also getting ready to open my new set of Quinacridone quintet from M Graham..
Top colours: PY129, Quin Gold, and PB27. I've only ever tried PB27.
Will you expand on your comment about how Daniel Smith is run as a company?? We all could benefit by your insight. Thanks😻
The idea of having to choose favorite colors feels rather daunting to me 😅 I absolutely love using Green Apatite Genuine and Serpentine Genuine from DS for greenery for example. Maybe those can definitely be in my top 10 because I include it in every palette I try to make lol.I love the moody look Lunar Blue and Lunar Purple for any scenery for shading and more, ooh, right, I love Perylene Violet and Perylene Maroon, I’ve put those two in an Earthy looking palette together with Nickel Azo Yellow and Green Rich Gold
But on the other hand I do love Quin. Rose, Quin. Pink, Quin. Violet and such. Also Cobalt Teal, Turquoise and other teals, turquoises, blues like Prussian blue, Indigo (both the rather dark blue kind as the rather muted dark, dark greyish blue that doesn’t look like it should be described as a blue), Antwerp Blue (W&N), all violets and purples (love Pupurite Genuine!) and lots of pink and yellow.
Although for some reason I don’t often use a yellow in my art, it is one of my favorite colors, just realizing that it doesn’t often end up in my paintings
Thank you so much for this video!! I’m so happy you’re loving Nickel Azo Yellow as well 😃. My “limited palette” or 6 “must have” colors are Ultramarine Blue (Any brand, I’m using QOR), Phthalo Blue Turqouise (DS, another brand I’d be open to trying!), Quinacridone Rose (DS, WN permanent rose seems to be Very close, if anyone knows of a QOR equivalent please let me know!), Burnt Sienna (QOR, but any brand), Dioxazine Purple (QOR, I prefer a granulation free pigment for my florals to the granulating version I can mix with Ultramarine Blue and Quin Rose), and of course Nickel Azo Yellow as my die-hard all time favourite yellow (QOR or DS).
Again, if anyone know of a PV19 Quin Rose (DS) or Permanent Rose (WN) equivalent in QOR please let me know!
My current top eight:
1. WN French ultramarine
2. WN transparent yellow
3. WN quinacridone magenta
4. DS hematite violet genuine
5. WN rose dore - never seen anyone else using this colour
6. WN cerulean blue
7. DS green apatite genuine
8 WN Prussian blue
This is just my top eight, not a recommended palette - they're just my favourite eight of the 18 colours I have squeezed out on my Mijello palette. If someone bought me a fancy brass eight pan palette, I'd be populating it with a balanced palette of eight colours , which is not the same as picking my eight favourites.
Have you tried White Nights Quinacridone Violet Rose (PV19)? I don't like really the White Nights Quin. Rose (PR122) but love the brighter/pinker Quin. Violet Rose (PV19) which I thought resemble your DS Quin Rose.
Lemon yellow, ceruleum blue and quin rose. no particular brand :)
If you have an issue with Daniel Smith (I do), try Daler Rowney's "Permanent Rose". It's quinacradone PV19. One of my favorite colors. It's always on my palette alongside M.Graham, which are favorite paints
Thank you for letting me know!
I'm trying to figure out why some of you have a negative opinion regarding Daniel Smith paints. Could you please elaborate?
My issue with Daniel Smith has nothing to do with the quality of it's watercolors. My issue is that when Daniel Smith started they undercut the prices of all the independent mom and pop art supply stores and the majority went out of business. I still patronized them because they had great products and a quality catalog that was very informative as far as papers and other products that were carried. It wasn't until later that DS started making paints and I thought they were good paints. I also noticed that the quality of some of what DS sold started going downhill. I'm sure DS started looking for less expensive, and lower quality, products to maximize profits. DS had a great store but then they closed the store and now all you can get are the paints. The product is good but DS has become a soulless corporate entity. That's my issue. There are other paint manufacturers out there that make just as good, if not better, paints.
I definitely like your newer version more. I'm not the greatest fan of reds. ANd you had a lot of those in the first one.
I like yellows ans blues more and with just quin rose i can get many out of it.
My Top would be:
Nickel Azo Yellow
Prussian Blue
Indanthrone Blue
Quin Rose
New Gamboge
Green Gold
English Red Ochre
Sepia
i have a love-hate-relationship with nickel azo yellow. it has amazing effects when used wet in wet, it looks amazing but it unpredictable.
Sepia is not that great for mixing, but often use it alone and so it needs a spot on my list.
i probably use more phtalo green ys than green gold, but only for mixing other greens. i hate phtalo green ys by it's own but love green gold.
Same with Phatlo Blue GS. Insane blue for very vibrant colours, but i just the other blues more.
And i have s special shoutout for:
Naples Yellow
Quin Coral
Manganese Blue Hue.
As a very fine wash they are beautiful to draw white objects.
Daniel Smith wasn't very forthcoming about the formulation of Primatek, could it have been industry confidential information? Also ground minerals sometimes, unless treated, do not show up as the color you see in the intact stone. Personally, though I like the color of jadeite and amethyst, I don't use them. There are less expensive similar colors and to me it seems you might eventually make such minerals more rare if everyone was grinding them up for pigments.
the japanese set - curious if it is lightfast. gorgeous colors tho!
(also, what's the deal with DS and how it's run? i've not heard of anything but this is a topic important to me too - i'd rather support companies that are run well and care about employees and customer service, etc.)
They apparently mix other pigments in with some of their colours. The Magnanese Blue Hue apparently had fluorescence in it (and thus partially fugitive). There were also some issues with lightfastness of some paints being questioned. Meanwhile the Primatek line had as little as 10% mineral according to a geologist and the remainder included other pigments. When they reached out to Daniel Smith, the CEO gave a condescending and snarky reply that of course paints have binders and aren't 100% pigment without really addressing the heart of the issue: Trust. People are now questioning if they can trust the brand and the way the company is run.
CrimsonArrow wow daaang. So this sounds like undocumented colors within a mix? Makes me think of how they put different preservatives and additives into food without listing it. Causes some people problems. Like me. (like since when did Stevia become something you didn’t have to acknowledge putting in your food? Stuff is rank.). But D: I really don’t like that somebody gave that sort of answer at all! It feels like a very politics kind of answer, not owning anything but just making excuses.
CrimsonArrow BTW thank you SO much for responding to this. It was really bugging me to think that there was something whack going on. And I don’t need to throw my money towards brands that function poorly. There’s so many brands I would rather support ones that are better. (((there’s a comment I read and cannot find it for the life of me recently, but one of the brands sounds like it’s run by a person like that… They were very evasive and borderline rude to somebody who reached out, regarding lightfastness testing or pigments or stuff. One of the major pigment/LF people. They dodged a very important question and gave a BS answer also. The founder was described in medias as a guy who was a regular renaissance man, multi talented or whatever. And frankly I smell a narcissist (yet there was no evidence of these things it was mostly talk). And I definitely do not want to support anything at the hands of people like that.)))
@@lurklingX Glad I could help. Yes I think that is the problem. Some folks still really love their products though they find it hard to support a company in good faith when this is their behaviour.
I am one of those people who really care about the chemicals inside the paints and try to stay away from toxic pigments for the sake of the environment and health. However if they're not disclosing what they're mixing together with the paint, it really makes people quite uncomfortable about trusting them. That on top of the premium prices they charge for their paints as well.
There was a post on Jackson's with an interview with the CEO from July 2021 and there were a lot of people who weren't happy in the comments though it doesn't look like the CEO wanted to follow up again and address the concerns.
CrimsonArrow personally, when I first got into watercolors Daniel Smith was the touted end all be all awesome paint…. But my experience when I’ve gotten the tubes is that there’s separation of binder, bubbles sometimes, things that look like inconsistent quality which I was very surprised and dismayed about. And yeah they certainly do charge an arm and a leg. One of my greater concerns was LIGHTFASTNESS. And they were reported to do in-house testing, so you should be able to completely trust their assessments… However, on sites like KimCrick, you can see that some of their assessments are not correct. Not saying they are as bad as for instance white nights used to be with assessing things top notch and having them go through horrible fugitive fadeouts like the pigment “golden“… but still it makes you wonder when they assess something as lightfast like shadow violet yet they’re using a fugitive pigment in the mix. :( but then you get a company like da Vinci, where so many of their paints are rated LF2 like they don’t care about lightfastness… But are they perhaps being more conservative in the estimates? (it’s a little dismaying how many are marked LF2, especially pigments that *should* be LF1). It’s a little hard to know where to turn. I must say that for tube consistency, Da Vinci and M Graham have both been stellar. As well as Schmincke and Winsor & Newton. But then like I said Da Vinci seems to not put a high priority on lightfastness potentially… and personal pet peeve, they don’t HAVE a dot card sheet so you can experience all of the paints and select via educated guess. AND They don’t have a chart of their pants, which is helpful when you can compare the shades against the other shades, and also see what pigments and opacity are. You have to go on each individual color’s information on the website. (Ok done). 🎨✨ What are your go-to paint brands and why? And what do you avoid and why? 🙂
That’s so fitting you’d mention in your video the Boku Undo Mei Palette! I’m just about finishing editing a video I made swatching these and the new pastel set you mentioned. I was very excited about it and agree with you, the Mei set is brighter than the other one, I particularly love the vermillion. The pastel set is also very beautiful. If you or anyone else is interested in seeing the colours I’ll be publishing my video between tomorrow and Saturday ;) Now my 8 favourite colours not in preference order are : Cobalt Turquoise (that’s the one I’ll never get tired of), Smalt Blue (WN), Sap Green (WN), Chinese Orange (Sennelier), Quin Red (Sennelier), green gold (WN), Phthalo Turquoise (Sennelier), Indanthrone Blue (Sennelier).
I love mixing skin tones with Senn Chinese orange!!!
@@cindijohnson2485 it’s such a unique colour isn’t it?
Are you able to share the mei set link?
How many different sets have been released of the boku paints?
So there is the standard set, then the Mei set, then the tan set (pale)… can’t remember off the top of my head if graphite colors is Boku-undo or kuretake… I have a feeling it’s kuretake.
I have lots of favorite colors in the Daniel Smith range, and I'm sorry to hear they are not a good company. I did just have an interaction with QoR's customer service, and they were amazing. A. Gallo is also incredible. Here's my weird favorite color, though: in the old Winsor Newton Cotman sets, there was a color called Purple Lake. Even though I'm not even really a purple person, I love that color. I have been trying to find a professional/artist grade version of it, but nothing is as vibrant. It's PV19, so it should be easy to find. And it's purple, so it should be easy to mix. Anyone wanna give it a try and share your recipe?!
I like that purple lake too!
Thanks
I'm gonna get it now! 😚
Have you looked in the Holbein catalog? I'll check. They have some very vibrant purples and roses
QoR's Nickel Azo Yellow is amazing if you want to move away from DS. Or even if you didn't want to move away from DS - QoR's version just glows and is truly lovely. (I won't buy DS at this point because I think it is an unethical company. Luckily there are other brands that have as good or better paint.)
Thanks for the info on Indigo! Really useful!
Please tell us about the specific bad things about Daniel Smith's company. Because it hasn't been talked about in my country yet.
CEO's come and go. I have been buying DS paint for many years and love them. I don't like how the current CEO has dealt with issues but that does not diminish my love of their watercolors. So I personally will continue to buy them but I respect that we all do what we think best for ourselves. And once he is out (and if he continues on this path he now doubt will be sooner rather than later) that will make buying from them even better.
I'd like to hear more about your experience with Daniel Smith's business practices. I had a terrific email experience with customer service so am wondering what happened to you.
My favorite color is Prussian Blue...no wait...it's Quin Magenta...no wait....it's Pthtalo Turquoise...no it's Aussie Red Gold....nope I stand by Prussian Blue.
I wish she had elaborated too. My palette is made up of about 90% DS paints and I LOVE them. I have been buying from them for years with zero problems. I will continue to deal with them and buy their paint.
There are no IDs in the UK ;D
Great video 💎 A question: why is the quin rose 2022 more blue than the 2018? Curious 🧐
probably lighting. it's brighter on the 2018 side and more shadow-y on the 2022 side.
@@JringArt Everyone’s screens display, and are viewed, uniquely.
@@PaintinHiding you see it too then? Just worried me that the quin rose is not stable, it’s one of my faves
@@JCLittle no i don't. i was simply giving a plausible explanation of why you're seeing the differences. the lighting is brighter on the left side of the screen.
@@PaintinHiding Hoping it is so!
I like Permanent Rose from Winsor Newton much better than Quin. Rose from DS. It is brighter and the brightest pink that I have found which is lightfast.
Perylene Green from Winsor Newton is another favourite. Then Perylene Violet from Schminke, though right now I have the DS version. From M. Graham: Hansa Yellow Deep py97, Azo Green PY129, Indian Yellow PY110, and Quinacridone Rust PO48. Lunar Black from DS is the best....PBk11. Quinacridone Magenta by QOR is another favourite. I also love Indigo from Winsor Newton, and also their Winsor Red PR254. Blue Lake PB15:2 from Old Holland and another OH is Dioxazine Mauve PV23...Those are a few of my favourite things!!
Perylene Violet and Perylene Green make a wonderful black. I also like the black from Permanent Alizarin Crimson PR264 M. Graham and the MG version of Phthalo Green Blue Shade PG7. And the black from Scarlet Pyrrol PO73 and a warm blue like ultramarine is wonderful too.
What is your fave vibrant easy flow watercolor brand?
Can someone explain what did Daniel Smith do???
I am curious as well. All my tubes are D.S. 😨
According to what I’ve discerned over the last year or so, there was an independent website that analyzed Daniel Smith’s Primatek®️ colors and assessed that the makeup of the actual paint contained VERY little of whatever mineral/gemstone they were purporting to have in them. When the testing results were brought to the DS CEO’s attention he put out a written statement that read to many loyal customers as terse, irritated, and overly defensive, nor did it offer any apology or proposed solution for the proven issue. Since these are very expensive paints mainly because of what they’re claiming are their main component (i.e.Jadeite), this rubbed many fans the wrong way, so much that some of them stopped supporting the brand all together.
Did I get that right?
@@croshame ive heard about that, one of my favourite paints of all time is rhodonite genuine and i was so sad to find out that it was mainly pv19 but a little bit muted down and i even read some article about single pigment options that were similar to the primateks but i personally haven’t read the response of the ceo so i don’t have an defined opinion on that but regardless in my opinion it’s totally valid if you don’t want to support daniel smith anymore and/ or not buy the primatek line there are a lot of brands out there and since they discontinued their po49 they don’t have any exclusive pigment that is really exiting to try besides some of the italian insipred earth tones and mayan range etc
@@croshame Thank you for the explanation! I had no idea...
Shove Mink is spot on. It was a geologist who noticed the primatek paints included undisclosed pigments and were not just the mineral in the name. IIRC in the response DS said they added pigments or altered to maintain consistency across batches. Which in and of itself isn't a problem, but not disclosing every pigment present is shady for artist grade paints. In that statement I think they also claimed their paints are just pigment and gum arabic, which is both condescending and nonsense because commercial and handmade watercolors at least need some humectants. The statement didn't have to be condescending and defensive, but it certainly came across that way to me. Not a deal breaker for everyone, but like others who saw the CEO's statement I started exploring other brands and buy DS a lot less now.
The day you stop loving quin rose is the day we know you've been kidnapped and we'll call the police!
Funny how you don't want daniel smith to make money off their jadeite but you have no problem with yourself making money off daniel smith paints in your videos. Don't get me wrong, you do you. I just find the hypocrisy hysterical.
My top 8 colors, nic azo yellow, yellow ochre, ultramarine blue, Prussian blue, pyrrol red, quin magenta, neutral tint, burnt sienna. If I could add 2 more which I have to my palette, cobalt teal and sap green. These are the colors I've buy no matter the brand because with them I can mix to paint any subject from landscapes, deserts, Caribbean beaches, eastern pacific, botanical, portraits, you name it, I need no other.
all nice, have a look at quin. coral by d.s. as a alterative to to the quin rose