One can only hope that with new continuation of this series coming soon that we'll see both X-Men and X-Factor team up as well as Cyclops and havok figuring out they're brothers finally.
@@ElyJrTheatreYES ... ! Omg ... Especially with ALL that crap with Corsair in the Shi'ar ark, as well as ALL of Cable's antics throughout this ENTIRE series ... ! Jean was PREGNANT in the new trailer ... Y-you don't POSSIBLY think that could mean ... ?! OMG =O lol
“How could you help this *misfit?* were the X-men! We historically are known for *hating* misfits! We only help people who are completely normal and fit in! That’s on our business cards and everything!”
Prof X could melt all of X-Forces brains in a second from the blackbird. Instead he wheelchairs out and telepathically tells them for talking distance to switch opponents.
I really hope in X-Men 97 that this time Scott & Alex will finally learn the truth about each other and i would love to see Polaris return also as Magneto's daughter
When Laurna goes "*gasp* Havoc!" and it cuts to Cyclops posturing, as if he's thinking "Yeah, it was me who fucked him up" and Havoc is lying there all cucked behind him,. 😆
2:10 I just noticed how they quietly implied the relationship between Havok and Cyclops by their powers not working on each other. I hope '97 delves further into it
yeah it's so strange when you know the characters before the retcons, like when Cable made his first appearance before he was retconned to be Cyclops future son and then in later episodes to see the retcon job make it to the animated series.
@@marhawkman303 And so many have happened in the last few years of Mutant lore along. Franklin is no longer a mutant. In my universe Lorna is not his daughter and for the most part the universe makes sense. Continuity is everything from 1963 to say around the mid to late 90's. Some characters from the 21sr century do exist but stuff like Utopia being bombed and M day do not exist.
Bobby being gay trying to get attention from Polaris (Lorna) who just blew wooden boxes with her magnetic 🧲 powers) 😅 Still, its impressive to pack in so much for the 90s era when there wasn't tech available.
One thing that really bothered me about this episode is that it never acknowledges that cyclops and havoc are brothers it’s only through x men evolution that I figured it out I know cyclops’ original voice actor passed away but writers of x men 97 if you are listening make an episode where they acknowledge Scott and havoc are brothers
Well, first off, Lorna's man (Havok) was injured, so she was tending to him (you see how she cut her conversation short with Bobby because she saw that Havok was hurt). Secondly, after The Professor and Forge's conversation, Lorna and Bobby have one in which she tells him that she needed to start over without the the X-Men and without him. She also told him that she had fallen in love with Havok.
@@ggt47 I hear you, I was just sayin....but yeah, you would think that she would have something to say to the others as well. Also, it was messed up how she left Bobby.
That was a cute touch with Cyclops and Havok just "miraculously" not being to blast each other with their powers, they just put that in so casually (lol) After the entire Shi'ar ark with Corsair, as well as Cable's antics, it's incredible how RIDICULOUSLY the producers trolled EVERY ONE OF US who have comic book knowledge on this show, by putting Cyclops JUST out of reach of finding out about not only his long-lost brother, but also his long-lost FATHER, and even his future (long-lost?) son, WITHOUT even knowing/revealing it on the SHOW! =O lmao Seriously, the SHEER extent of trolling on this show by producers was just SUPERIOR level to those of us who read the comics(!) =O lol Only JEAN found out about Cable the first time they met in this cartoon series, but then she ALSO kept it a SECRET from EVERYONE in the cartoon ... ! I couldn't help but notice that Jean was PREGNANT in X-Men '97 ... I wonder if the events in the episode where she and Cable "first"(?) duriong his FIRST appearance on this show met will be a part of the new plot ... !
@civilwildman No, I don't think it was a matter of him bringing it on himself, I just think that he wanted to live his life the way that he wanted to, and no longer wanted the burden/responsibility of being a hero to the world (especially after his love Lorna almost died on a mission). At the end of the day, at a certain point, they just weren't on the same page anymore, but at the same time, the way that she left him was messed up.
@@marhawkman303 I don't think that he was trying to do anything without her, he genuinely loved her. They had an argument, he left, and when he went back to make up with her, she went ghost.
Even though Strong Guy doesn't have dialogue in this series, he does speak in the sequel series what he was voiced by Nightcrawler's voice actor Adrian Hough.
I am Starting to Watch X Men the Animated Series again Leading up to X Men 97, So far I am at Episode 4 of Season 1 and I can't wait to get to This Episode.
@@marhawkman303 yeah, and ironically a lot of the X-Men fan base doesn’t understand Jubilee’s powers. “Fireworks” and “detonating plasma on a molecular level” are not in the same league lol.
Pof. X's advice was bad for two of them: Jubilee was left to free-fall onto a concrete floor (and, um, survive?). Cyclops was directed away from the only opponent incapable of hurting him, likely also resulting in Havoc taking shots at other X-men he CAN hurt. There's a reason why Cyclops was the battlefield leader...
3:30 “I must do something to end this!”- Charles Xavier the most powerful telepath in the world who can stop most people with a thought or at least check their memories to see that they’re not really the bad guys kinda sorta lol. And I know he doesn’t like to use his powers on people without their permission but come on really?!😑🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
I'm wondering how Xavier didn't at least recognize Bobby (Iceman) as being one of his first students... Wasn't Iceman part of the original 5 X-men? I mean, it doesn't take a telepath to observe and recognize a former student of yours...
@@_Just_Another_Guy yeah, in the episode Bobby was already a member of the X-men but kept getting into trouble so he was kinda kicked out/left the group and joined X-Factor. But yeah, Prof X, Cyclops and Jean already know him and Wolverine and Jubilee were talking about him and Wolverine said that that was before his time with the group. And if I’m not mistaken I believe that they were there in that warehouse to help Iceman. And then later on Prof realizes that Angel was an original member as well but something happened that made them forget about him or something like that. But for some reason if I remember correctly they didn’t even make a big deal about it lol.
I love this series a lot because I saw it when I was little but we have to be honest, the animation and character design is quite old-fashioned and obsolete even compared to contemporary series like Gargoyles and Batman, I hope that Xmen 97 gives it more dignity with a more experimental animation fluid and dynamic as they can be used using classic designs
This uses the old 90s era stuff, and in the old days that was actually a shocking plot twist. One this series just didn't get around to. Having Lorna reveal she decided to ditch Bobby for Havok was plenty of surprise plot.
The creators of the original X-Men were so terrible at storytelling. Hiw could the Summer Brotuers not know who they are. The X-Factor team was the original X-Men
Cyclops totally took the Havoc landing and upped the difficulty to 1,000 in Xmen 97!!!
Guess you watch this fight after seeing the last episode too. One of the best in this show
Lol i just realized that
Cyclops didn’t know his own brother lol
And apparently Angel was never a member of the original X-Men either which made zero sense considering Bobby as Iceman was.
In the past days hd didn't know. He also didn't know Corsair was his father either and that Vulcan was his brother
They didn't see each other since they was kids
They were separated at the orphanage, which itself is unusual...
@@hmrhuang Not unusual at all.
Polaris just casually manipulating ferromagnetic wood
Polaris is every bit Magneto's daughter.
Maybe there were nails in the boxes...
Over 25 issues summed up in a single episode! X-men TAS is the goat
One can only hope that with new continuation of this series coming soon that we'll see both X-Men and X-Factor team up as well as Cyclops and havok figuring out they're brothers finally.
I need this childhood clourse!!!
FINALLY!
@@ElyJrTheatreYES ... ! Omg ... Especially with ALL that crap with Corsair in the Shi'ar ark, as well as ALL of Cable's antics throughout this ENTIRE series ... !
Jean was PREGNANT in the new trailer ... Y-you don't POSSIBLY think that could mean ... ?! OMG =O lol
It would have been so cool if they made an X-Factor spin off cartoon series.
It was pretty hood the way multiple man jumped Wolverine lol
I saw your comment watched that scene fell out laughing 😂😂
They stomped that 🥷out like he owed them money!
It was even more hood the way Wolverine reverse jumped them.
My mans threw hand with all of em 😂😂😂😂
“How could you help this *misfit?* were the X-men! We historically are known for *hating* misfits! We only help people who are completely normal and fit in! That’s on our business cards and everything!”
One of my favorite episodes
Prof X could melt all of X-Forces brains in a second from the blackbird. Instead he wheelchairs out and telepathically tells them for talking distance to switch opponents.
I always loved this fight!!! “Who the heck are they?” This is a sweet tribute to Jack Kirby
Hoping X-Men 97 eventually has Cyclops and Havok discover they're siblings
I really hope in X-Men 97 that this time Scott & Alex will finally learn the truth about each other and i would love to see Polaris return also as Magneto's daughter
I like how Charles said "what" in the end. Bro was baffled
😂😂😂
Go on take your best shot!
It’s your face pal!
Still one of my favorite Wolverine lines to this day, I just love the way he says it LOL.
What's this a two for one sale?!
@@huluandebaymanno it’s more like a baker’s dozen!
2:00 cyclops sounding like a parent 😄
Awesome, dude...😂
2:05 Cyclops and Havok began attacking each other with their powers but neither of them.got hurt.
@1:22 - my favorite action sequence theme in the series.
Loved these shows as a kid growing up,
Hope x-factor returns
Jubilee shined in this episode.
She was always my favorite.
When Laurna goes "*gasp* Havoc!" and it cuts to Cyclops posturing, as if he's thinking "Yeah, it was me who fucked him up" and Havoc is lying there all cucked behind him,. 😆
Coincidentally, Havok was Polaris' love interest.
2:10 I just noticed how they quietly implied the relationship between Havok and Cyclops by their powers not working on each other. I hope '97 delves further into it
I was hype when this episode came out!!!!
Hopefully with X-Men 97 we get to see a rematch
I'm gonna believe that the wooden boxes that Polaris pushed off of Havok had nails in them........
It IS pretty normal yeah.
magneto and polaris can use magnetic repulsor rays which affect non-magnetic matter.
4:27 How I miss pre-Magnetos daddy's Lorna/Polaris.
yeah it's so strange when you know the characters before the retcons, like when Cable made his first appearance before he was retconned to be Cyclops future son and then in later episodes to see the retcon job make it to the animated series.
@@emp0rizzle Definitely. It is odd. It feels like an (unironic) alternative reality.
@@ggt47 Yeah over-retconning is a sign of a bad writer IMO. Yes, retcons happen but drastic changes enh..... not a good idea.
@@marhawkman303 And so many have happened in the last few years of Mutant lore along. Franklin is no longer a mutant. In my universe Lorna is not his daughter and for the most part the universe makes sense. Continuity is everything from 1963 to say around the mid to late 90's. Some characters from the 21sr century do exist but stuff like Utopia being bombed and M day do not exist.
@@ggt47 Yeah the last decade is mostly crap :/ there's a few neat thigns here and there, but they're all attached to dumb stuff in some way. :/
I miss these colors. The yellow, blues, the greens. It's my childhood.
Jubilee gets better as she gains experience. That was a legit solar flare
She was always my favorite.
@@rhunter42dragon Mine too!
Forge will return in the upcoming X-men 97.
Bobby being gay trying to get attention from Polaris (Lorna) who just blew wooden boxes with her magnetic 🧲 powers)
😅
Still, its impressive to pack in so much for the 90s era when there wasn't tech available.
havok is scott's brother. and thats probably why they cant hurt each other
yep. during the phoenix saga, black tom and banshee's powers couldn't affect each other. so the precedent was already set for this.
I think they're only slightly immune to Vulcan's powers
Yup. That was even revealed on Muir Island years back with two mutant brothers
One thing that really bothered me about this episode is that it never acknowledges that cyclops and havoc are brothers it’s only through x men evolution that I figured it out I know cyclops’ original voice actor passed away but writers of x men 97 if you are listening make an episode where they acknowledge Scott and havoc are brothers
The one they're working on now will acknowledged that and what happened to Xavier when he went to space
They kind of hint it, in that both of their powers don't work against the other.
Ray Chase will replace the late Norm Spencer voice Cyclops for X-men 97 because Ray sound just like Norm and is just great.
Also the actor how voice Forge Marc Strange passed away so need to find someone how has very similar voice to Marc for Forge in X-men 97.
That and Cable's background.
Sibling rivalry: Cyclops vs. Havok
Also you think Lorna would have more to say to Scott,Proffesor X and Hank.
Well, first off, Lorna's man (Havok) was injured, so she was tending to him (you see how she cut her conversation short with Bobby because she saw that Havok was hurt). Secondly, after The Professor and Forge's conversation, Lorna and Bobby have one in which she tells him that she needed to start over without the the X-Men and without him. She also told him that she had fallen in love with Havok.
@@evohumans Still...
@@ggt47 I hear you, I was just sayin....but yeah, you would think that she would have something to say to the others as well. Also, it was messed up how she left Bobby.
@@evohumans LORNA:Charlie,Scotty baby,Hanky bluey.
@@evohumans She left a man pretty harshly in The Gifted also - basically cutting him out while carrying their baby.
That was a cute touch with Cyclops and Havok just "miraculously" not being to blast each other with their powers, they just put that in so casually (lol)
After the entire Shi'ar ark with Corsair, as well as Cable's antics, it's incredible how RIDICULOUSLY the producers trolled EVERY ONE OF US who have comic book knowledge on this show, by putting Cyclops JUST out of reach of finding out about not only his long-lost brother, but also his long-lost FATHER, and even his future (long-lost?) son, WITHOUT even knowing/revealing it on the SHOW! =O lmao
Seriously, the SHEER extent of trolling on this show by producers was just SUPERIOR level to those of us who read the comics(!) =O lol
Only JEAN found out about Cable the first time they met in this cartoon series, but then she ALSO kept it a SECRET from EVERYONE in the cartoon ... !
I couldn't help but notice that Jean was PREGNANT in X-Men '97 ... I wonder if the events in the episode where she and Cable "first"(?) duriong his FIRST appearance on this show met will be a part of the new plot ... !
Soo cool vs X factor too bad we didn’t see more of these
X factor will appear in X men 97 season 2
Really riding on Forge divulging. Storm wasn’t around that time, I notice.
Cyclops and Havok when the brothers meet
O the fight scene. More plz.
Anyone notice how forge just introduced himself to the professor? But in the new show. He tells storm he’s an old friend. Inconsistent af lol
Bro... he from the future...
I love X-factor, in my opinion they were way cooler than the X-Men.
I feel bad for Bobby his girl dumps him for another dude
But if memory serves, Bobby brought it on himself.
This is real life.. if bobby sits and focuses, build himself, some random thot will drop her boy for him to 😂
@civilwildman No, I don't think it was a matter of him bringing it on himself, I just think that he wanted to live his life the way that he wanted to, and no longer wanted the burden/responsibility of being a hero to the world (especially after his love Lorna almost died on a mission). At the end of the day, at a certain point, they just weren't on the same page anymore, but at the same time, the way that she left him was messed up.
@@evohumans It's weird yeah, Bobby decided to "find himself"... but did it without Lorna. Lorna... found someone.
@@marhawkman303 I don't think that he was trying to do anything without her, he genuinely loved her. They had an argument, he left, and when he went back to make up with her, she went ghost.
Nice uniform pal.
"I don't like your attitude."
(Cyclops shoots at havok)
Cyclops:I don't understand?
Havok:what gives?!
Nice little scrape.My boy iceman got a raw deal at the end though.
Even though Strong Guy doesn't have dialogue in this series, he does speak in the sequel series what he was voiced by Nightcrawler's voice actor Adrian Hough.
He did . Morph turn into strong guy and he talk about wrestling
@@CulinaryJoey He also warned Sunspot that there's a war coming sometime after the Wild Sentinel incident.
“It’s your face, pal” 😂
I always loved this fight scene, love mutant on mutant action! lol
2:03 wow that was… weird. "nervous chuckle"
I really love Lorna Dane !
I hope in they will united Alec and Scott in the Continuing series that will premiere next year
when marvel gonna come out with other mutant team??? you know how many X team out there
What gets me is how Wolverine managed to defeat Strong Guy.
Would be cool if X factor and x men team up in the series or have X factor to have there own series or x force to fight the avengers lol hah a
Ah my first introductions to my two favorite x men character , Strong Guy and Forge
I am Starting to Watch X Men the Animated Series again Leading up to X Men 97, So far I am at Episode 4 of Season 1 and I can't wait to get to This Episode.
Love how Jubilee outsmarted them… twice.
Makes me wonder if only Forge bothered to learn what Jubilee's powers were.
@@marhawkman303 yeah, and ironically a lot of the X-Men fan base doesn’t understand Jubilee’s powers. “Fireworks” and “detonating plasma on a molecular level” are not in the same league lol.
@@Aeroshogun Yeah Jubilee can and has leveled buildings.
@@marhawkman303 Right, and she's cleared a large part of an evergreen forest in the comics recently too.
Jubilee was always my favorite.
Polaris and Quicksilver are half-siblings, hope in X-Men 97 Lorna will find out that Magneto is her father.
How could Xavier not know who X factor was/were..lol..
forge form this team as the Secret alliance of XMen
@@CattySleepyI didn't know that thanks mate,👍🏻 it's been a very long time since i watched the old X-Men animated series.
Even Wolverine will not stand up to the Kage Bunshin No Jutsu.
Metal mittens makes me giggle...😄
First time I saw this, I had no idea havoc and Cyclops were brothers, no idea why they never revealed this in the later episodes
Does anyone know who Havok's voice actor is?
Lmao when havoc ducked, Cyclops tried to take his head off.
No, it appeared he deliberately aimed for the boxes to bury Havoc in them to incapacitate him.
@@civilwildman I don't know, it looked like Havoc was shocked and ducked under the blast.
Poor Bobby.
Now i understand the Family Guy scene 😮. . .
Why isn’t this episode on Disney+? It’s not in Season 3 at all.
Are they going to use this heartbreak to then have Iceman explore other romantic options?
How much was Cyclops within his right to be angry at Iceman in this episode ?
Pof. X's advice was bad for two of them: Jubilee was left to free-fall onto a concrete floor (and, um, survive?). Cyclops was directed away from the only opponent incapable of hurting him, likely also resulting in Havoc taking shots at other X-men he CAN hurt. There's a reason why Cyclops was the battlefield leader...
Wolverine not using his claws on Multiple Man is baffling too. They really neutered him for this show
3:30 “I must do something to end this!”- Charles Xavier the most powerful telepath in the world who can stop most people with a thought or at least check their memories to see that they’re not really the bad guys kinda sorta lol. And I know he doesn’t like to use his powers on people without their permission but come on really?!😑🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
😂
But I love the tactic, though!
Charles choose not to abuse his powers. It's one of his interesting characteristics that he doesn't invade people's minds without their consent.
I'm wondering how Xavier didn't at least recognize Bobby (Iceman) as being one of his first students...
Wasn't Iceman part of the original 5 X-men? I mean, it doesn't take a telepath to observe and recognize a former student of yours...
@@_Just_Another_Guy yeah, in the episode Bobby was already a member of the X-men but kept getting into trouble so he was kinda kicked out/left the group and joined X-Factor. But yeah, Prof X, Cyclops and Jean already know him and Wolverine and Jubilee were talking about him and Wolverine said that that was before his time with the group. And if I’m not mistaken I believe that they were there in that warehouse to help Iceman. And then later on Prof realizes that Angel was an original member as well but something happened that made them forget about him or something like that. But for some reason if I remember correctly they didn’t even make a big deal about it lol.
scott vs alex most epic battle in marvel comics
back when Havoc's powers didn't go everywhere
F in the chat for Iceman
Why does the X-Factor has the same uniform as the X-men
They left out rouge, whom would have knocked off strong guy with ease. And storm whom would have taken out any of them with lighting.... Oh and Jean.
"What" - professor x or lil john😅
Favorite episode
Cyclops has a bad aim😂
Were to watch this
Strong guy, Forge and Havok were supposed to be OG X-men, this doesn't make sense.
The Factor X not Reality Show
Did iceman create a ice wall to protect Wolverine from a splash of water 🤔
Keep in mind it’s a kids show so they couldnt show violence
@@Castrodeleonfilmclips yeah when i was a kid i said the same thing 🤣🤣 80s baby
I love this series a lot because I saw it when I was little but we have to be honest, the animation and character design is quite old-fashioned and obsolete even compared to contemporary series like Gargoyles and Batman, I hope that Xmen 97 gives it more dignity with a more experimental animation fluid and dynamic as they can be used using classic designs
brother how are you
Xmen vs x factor
How did Cyclops not recognize Havok as his own biological brother here?
What X-men universe is this?
This uses the old 90s era stuff, and in the old days that was actually a shocking plot twist. One this series just didn't get around to.
Having Lorna reveal she decided to ditch Bobby for Havok was plenty of surprise plot.
I’d probably say it’s due to the fact the last time he saw him they were kids and it’s been about 25+ years.
@@philthee04 more like 15, but yeah things change liek that.
I always thought Lorna Dane was so hot lol
Wolverine being completely useless as usual
Oh dear lol
Polaris XXL bubbies
PROF X:
“Bobby, I’m sorry. There’s no amount of ice thick enough to shield you from your gay, gay sexuality.”
The creators of the original X-Men were so terrible at storytelling. Hiw could the Summer Brotuers not know who they are. The X-Factor team was the original X-Men
recheck the lore of the show the OG were beast, ice man, cyclops and jean ( marvel girl)
@@da-vidcargill4975 my bad . That’s what I meant
God jubilee was useless 😂
Did you actually watch the video?
But some Asian fetish losers love her..... but yeah she was a trash whiny character.
I like this because only quicksilver havok an multiple man on this cartoon show same with avalanche pyro an nitro